IT'S WENEREI THE 3rd OF APRIL. HUMP DAY! MORENA. THIS IS BREAKFAST. COMING UP ON THE PROGRAMME THIS MORNING ` THREE STRIKE'S AND YOU'RE OUT ` OR, MORE CORRECTLY, IN JAIL WITHOUT PAROLE. THE GOVERNMENT PLANS TO REINTRODUCE THE THREE STRIKES LAW BY THE END OF JUNE. THE INTENTION OF THE LAW WAS TO DETER REPEAT OFFENDERS WITH THE THREAT OF PROGRESSIVELY LONGER, MANDATORY PRISON TERMS, BUT DOES IT WORK? WE SPEAK WITH A VICTIM'S ADVOCATE WHO SUPPORTS ITS RETURN AND A CRITIC WHO SAYS THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON REHABILITATION, NOT LOCKING PEOPLE UP AND THROWING AWAY THE KEY. THAT COMING UP JUST AFTER 7. PLUS, IT'S THE YURCHENKO DOUBLE PIKE OF THE GYMNASTICS WORLD. LET ME TRANSLATE FOR YOU. THE SPORT HAS DONE A COMPLETE FLIP OVER ITS DRESS CODE. YES, WHERE WOMEN WERE ONCE PENALISED FOR ` SHOCK HORROR ` A VISIBLE BRA STRAP, THE ARCHAIC ATTIRE RULES ARE FINALLY BEING OVERHAULED. BUT THIS IS JUST THE LATEST CHANGE TO THE REVOLUTION OF WOMEN'S SPORTSWEAR. WE'LL HAVE THE DETAILS COMING UP AFTER 8 THIS MORNING. SPEAKING OF BRA STRAPS. ARE YOU ALL RIGHT? WARDROBE MALFUNCTION. AND COMING UP IN AROUND 20 MINUTES' TIME ` HOW TO IDENTIFY A NARCISSIST! KNOW ONE? THEY ATTRACT YOU WITH THEIR CHARM AND CHARISMA, THEN WHAMMO, BEFORE YOU KNOW IT, IT'S ALL ABOUT THEM ` ENTITLEMENT, SELF-CENTRED THE LIST GOES ON. THINK KANYE WEST, DONALD TRUMP, JOAN CRAWFORD. YEP, ALL NARCISSISTS. JOAN CRAWFORD IS ONE? ANYWAY, IF YOU KNOW ONE, WORK WITH ONE, ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE, WE'RE HERE TO HELP.. WELL, ACTUALLY A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST IS. THAT INTERVIEW COMING UP AT ABOUT 6.20ISH. IS COMING UP TO 6 O'CLOCK, THOUGH. LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT ONE. WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHO WOULD FIT THE CRITERIA. WE WOULD NEVER NAME NAMES, BUT YOU CAN SEND US YOUR SUGGESTIONS. RIGHT NOW IT'S 6 O'CLOCK. HERE'S CHRIS WITH THE NEWS. ISRAEL HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE AIR STRIKE THAT LEFT SEVEN AID WORKERS DEAD IN GAZA. IT'S NOW PROMISING TO INVESTIGATE THE INCIDENT AT THE 'HIGHEST LEVELS'. THE BBC'S YOLANDE KNELL REPORTS. THERE WERE NO SURVIVORS. CARS IN THE AID CONVOY WERE HIT DIRECTLY, EVEN WITH THE WORLD'S CENTRAL KITCHEN LOGOS CLEARLY DISPLAYED AND, THE U.S. CHARITY SAYS, PRIOR COORDINATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY . SINCE THE WAR BEGAN, THE NGO HAS PROVIDED MORE THAN 40 MILLION MEALS IN GAZA. AUSTRALIAN LALZAWMI FRANKCOM, WHO APPEARED IN A RECENT WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN VIDEO, HAS BEEN CONFIRMED AS ONE OF THE DEAD. WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN HAS BEEN SENDING FOOD TO GAZA FROM CYPRUS ALONG A NEW SEA ROUTE. THE AID WORKERS HAD JUST UNLOADED 100 TONS FROM THE LATEST SHIPMENT WHEN THEY CAME UNDER ATTACK. ISRAEL'S MILITARY SAYS IT'S INVESTIGATING. WE ARE COMMITTED TO EXAMINING OUR OPERATIONS THOROUGHLY AND TRANSPARENTLY. I JUST SPOKE TO WTCC FOUNDER CHEF JOSE ANDERS AND EXPRESSED THE DEEPEST CONDOLENCES OF ISRAEL DEFENCE FORCES TO THE FAMILIES AND THE ENTIRE WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN FAMILY. IN GAZA, WHERE BODIES OF THE AID WORKERS, LOCALS AND FOREIGNERS ARE BEING SENT HOME FOR BURIAL, WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN SAYS IT'S HEARTBROKEN AND GRIEVING. AND THESE DEATHS WILL BE FELT MORE WIDELY TOO. THE CHARITY HAS NOW PAUSED ITS OPERATIONS IN THE WAR-TORN TERRITORY, WHERE FAMINE IS LOOMING. IT SAYS IT WILL SOON MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF ITS WORK. AT LEAST 29 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A FIRE IN A NIGHTCLUB IN TURKEY. THE MASQUERADE CLUB IN THE BASEMENT OF A HIGH-RISE BUILDING IN ISTANBUL WAS CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS. THE VICTIMS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. SEVERAL PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NIGHTCLUB MANAGER, HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE AS INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE. A CHILD (12) HAS BEEN ARRESTED IN FINLAND, SUSPECTED OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING. THREE STUDENTS WERE SHOT AND ONE OF THEM KILLED AT A SCHOOL NEAR THE COUNTRY'S CAPITAL, HELSINKI. POLICE SAY THE SUSPECT USED A HANDGUN BELONGING TO A CLOSE RELATIVE. HE INITIALLY FLED BUT WAS LATER DETAINED AND ADMITTED TO CARRYING OUT THE SHOOTING. PASSENGERS ON A LATAM AIRLINES FLIGHT THAT EXPERIENCED A MIDAIR DROP BETWEEN SYDNEY AND AUCKLAND HAVE BEEN OFFERED COMPENSATION. AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE WERE INJURED WHEN THE PLANE SUFFERED WHAT THE AIRLINE DESCRIBED AS A 'TECHNICAL EVENT'. A LAW FIRM REPRESENTING SOME OF THE PASSENGERS SAYS THEY'VE BEEN OFFERED BETWEEN $2500 AND MORE THAN $8000. BUT THE LAWYERS HAVE WARNED THEM NOT TO SIGN ANYTHING, SAYING THEY'RE LIKELY ENTITLED TO SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. NEARLY ONE IN FIVE DRUGS TESTED IN NEW ZEALAND LAST YEAR CONTAINED DRUGS DIFFERENT TO WHAT WAS EXPECTED. NEW DATA RELEASED BY THE NEW ZEALAND DRUG FOUNDATION SHOWS 8.5% OF TESTS CONTAINED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRUG AND 6.5% INCLUDED AN ADDITIONAL PSYCHOACTIVE OR HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE. OVER THE PAST YEAR, THERE'S BEEN A 51% INCREASE ON DRUG CHECKING, WITH MORE THAN 1500 SAMPLES TESTED. A MIXED PICTURE FOR NEW ZEALAND HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES, BUT THE LATEST REPORT FROM GOVERNMENT CREDIT AGENCY 'CENTRIX' SAYS THERE ARE REASONS TO BE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. THE REPORT SHOWS MORE THAN 450,000 PEOPLE WERE BEHIND ON CREDIT PAYMENTS IN MARCH, BUT THAT'S DOWN 23,000 FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH. ARREARS IN THE LAST QUARTER WERE 8.1% HIGHEROR THAN THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR, CLIMBING AFTER HISTORIC LOWS IN 2020 AND 2021. MORE THAN 22,000 MORTGAGE ACCOUNTS WERE ALSO PAST DUE ` UP 18% YEAR ON YEAR ` WITH AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN 800 FROM JANUARY TO FEBRUARY. SAM WHITELOCK, THE MOST CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME, HAS CALLED TIME ON HIS PLAYING CAREER. WHITELOCK'S PROFESSIONAL CAREER STARTED WITH CANTERBURY BACK IN 2008, AND HE QUICKLY ROSE FROM THERE. HE PLAYED 153 TESTS FOR THE ALL BLACKS, SCORING TWO TRIES ON DEBUT IN 2010. LOOK AT THAT. THE ALL BLACK GREAT WILL FINISH UP AT THE OF THE FRENCH RUGBY SEASON WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR PAU. THE WARRIORS WILL BE WITHOUT LUKE METCALF FOR THE BULK OF THE NRL SEASON. THE CLUB CONFIRMING THE FIVE EIGHT BROKE HIS RIGHT TIBIA DURING SUNDAY'S 20-12 WIN OVER THE KNIGHTS. A HEAVY TACKLE FROM KNIGHTS PLAYER TYSON FRIZZELL IN THE 9th MINUTE OF THE GAME LEFT METCALF IN SERIOUS PAIN. GOT ALL OF LUKE METCALF. METCALF WILL UNDERGO TREATMENT IN THE COMING WEEKS AND IS NOT EXPECTED TO RETURN UNTIL LATE IN THE SEASON. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND LET'S WHIP AROUND THE COUNTRY AND LOOK AT WHAT THE WEATHER IS DOING TODAY. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` ITS GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON, THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND, WITH A HIGH OF 23. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23. 24 IN HASTINGS. OVER TO THE WEST ` PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH ` IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU ` THE SOUTH ISLAND BLUE SKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. BLENHEIM, YOU'LL BE REACHING A HIGH OF 22. 18 FOR WESTPORT. HEADING SOUTH ` YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY, CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. AND 21 FOR ALEXANDRA. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON, WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. DUNEDIN WITH A HIGH OF 21. THANKS, CHRIS. IF YOU THOUGHT WOMEN EARNING LESS THAN MEN WAS OLD NEWS, WELL, JUST YOU WAIT TIL YOU HEAR ABOUT ANOTHER GENDER DIVIDE THAT MAKES THINGS EVEN WORSE. THE RETIREMENT COMMISSION HAS REVEALED DETAILS OF THE GAP IN KIWISAVER CONTRIBUTIONS BETWEEN MEN AND WOMEN AND THE END RESULT IS FAR MORE DISPARATE THAN THE GENDER GAP FOR PAY. SO, I THINK WE WERE VERY SURPRISED THAT IT IS 36%. WE KNEW THE GENDER PAY GAP WAS AROUND ABOUT 9%, BUT WE WEREN'T AWARE OF THE FACTS OF ALL THOSE COMPOUNDING FACTORS OF TIME OUT OF PAID WORK AND NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE IN PART-TIME POSITIONS THAT THAT WOULD HAVE SUCH AN INFERENCE ON THAT GAP. BUT WE WERE ALSO PLEASANTLY SURPRISED TO SEE THAT WOMEN AND MEN ARE CONTRIBUTING AT THE SAME RATE ON AVERAGE. SO I THINK THERE IS A BIT OF GOOD NEWS STORY HERE TOO. WOMEN ARE DOING THEIR BIT, ARE EQUAL TO THEIR MALE COLLEAGUES, AND THERE'S REALLY THESE OTHER INEQUITIES WITHIN THE WORKPLACE THAT ARE RESULTING IN THIS VERY LARGE GAP THAT WE SEE. YEAH, SO BREAK IT DOWN ` MEN AND WOMEN ARE CONTRIBUTING THE SAME PERCENTAGE OF INCOME, BUT DIFFERENT INCOMES WILL MEAN DIFFERENT END RESULTS, BUT WHAT ARE THOSE COMPOUNDING FACTORS THAT RETIREMENT COMMISSIONER MICHELLE REYERS REFERRED TO? JASMINE HARDY MILLS IS A KIWISAVER CONTRIBUTOR WHO JOINS US NOW. MORENA, JASMINE. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME ON THE SHOW THIS MORNING. YOU ARE ALSO A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER. YOU KNOW THIS TOPIC INSIDE AND OUT. I'VE GOT TO SAY, THE FIRST NUMBER THEY GOT TO ME IS, OK, THERE IS A GENDER PAY GAP, 8.5%, BUT A 36% DIFFERENCE BY THE END? THAT IS SHOCKING. EDITORS SHOCKING, BUT IT IS REFLECTIVE OF THE TIME WOMEN TAKE OUT OF THE WORKFORCE TO HAVE CHILDREN, MATERNITY LEAVE AND RETURNING TO PART-TIME WORK. WHEN WE LOOK AT THOSE COMPOUNDING FACTORS, IS THAT THE BIGGEST FACTOR BY THE END OF IT? YES, THERE IS A GENDER DIFFERENCE, SO ME AT 3% IS ALWAYS GOING TO BE LESS THAN MY HUSBAND PUTTING IN 3%. IS IT THE TIME THAT I TAKE OFF WORK AND DO CHILDCARE THAT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE? I JOINED A RETIREMENT SAVINGS SCHEME STRAIGHT OUT OF UNI. DID ALL THE RIGHT THINGS, MAXIMUM SAVINGS. I JOINED KIWISAVER IN 2009 WHEN I CHANGED JOBS. I HAD MY FIRST CHILD ABOUT A YEAR LATER. WHEN I RETURN TO WORK, I WAS PART-TIME. I THEN WENT INTO WORK FOR MYSELF AND HAVE HAD TWO MORE CHILDREN OVER THAT PERIOD. MY HUSBAND, IN COMPARISON, HE JOINED KIWISAVER 10 YEARS LATER. HIS BALANCE HAS OVERTAKEN MINE. SO THAT 10 YEAR HEAD START I HAD HAS REALLY BEEN A CLIPS BY THE THREE CHILDREN AND THE CAREER CONSEQUENCES OF THAT. YOU DIDN'T TAKE A DECADE OFF WORK, BUT IT HAS RESULTED IN A DECADE GAP. THAT IS INCREDIBLE. I DO WANT TO SOUND TOO DEPRESSED ABOUT THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T REALLY CATCH UP ON THAT. THAT GAP IS GONE, AND IT IS RUNNING AWAY FROM YOU. BEST INTENTIONS FROM THE BEGINNING, BUT WHAT IS DONE IS DONE. DO YOU SEE ANY WAY OF BEING ABLE TO CLOSE THE GAP? I THINK CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WOMEN TO WORK FLEXIBLY, ALLOW THAT RETURN TO WORK, AND CHANGING THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT WORK A BIT, SO THAT WOMEN DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT BY THAT CAREER GAP THAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS, THAT WOMEN LEAVE WORK TO GO AND HAVE CHILDREN AND THEN TRY AND RETURN, AND THEY RETURN AT THE SAME POINT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW THE SKILL SET WHEN THEY LEFT. THAT WOULD HELP. WHAT DO YOU SEE IN YOUR CLIENTS IN TERMS OF THE SITUATIONS THEY FIND THEMSELVES IN? THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR` I DON'T. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANY CHANGE TO LEGISLATION THAT YOU THINK WOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO THIS? I AM NOT ARGUING OR ADVOCATING NECESSARILY THAT WOMEN SHOULD GET 4% CONTRIBUTION WHILE MEN GET 3%. LET'S SAY IT STAYS THE SAME. ARE THERE OTHER FACTORS THAT COULD BE MADE DIFFERENT THROUGH LEGISLATION? IT'S NOT REALLY MY AREA OF EXPERTISE, BUT THE WORK ENVIRONMENT COULD DEFINITELY BE IMPROVED. THAT FLEXIBILITY, THE ABILITY FOR WOMEN TO WORK REMOTELY ` COVID HAS DONE WOMEN A BIT OF A HELPING HAND IN TERMS OF THAT ABILITY TO WORK REMOTELY. AND THOSE CONVERSATIONS THAT CAN BE HAD. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. IT IS 6:11. E WHAI AKE NEI ` DO YOU THINK YOU MIGHT BE DATING A NARCISSIST? OUR NEXT GUEST HAS A FEW TIPS ON HOW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO MANAGE THEM. OR AVOID THEM. EITHER. STAY WITH US. # HONEY, HONEY. NAU MAI HOKI MAI ANO. NARCISSISTS MAKE UP BETWEEN 1% AND 6% OF THE POPULATION. IF THAT'S YOU, YOU'RE IN THE COMPANY OF PEOPLE SUCH AS JOAN CRAWFORD, KANYE WEST, CLEOPATRA AND DONALD TRUMP. BUT IF YOU'RE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH ONE, OUR NEXT GUEST HAS SOME ADVICE FOR YOU. DR RAMANI DURVASULA IS A CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGIST WHO KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT AND JOINS US FROM LOS ANGELES NOW. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. I GUESS THE FIRST PLACE WE NEED TO START IS WHAT IS A NARCISSIST. GOOD MORNING. A NARCISSIST IS A NARCISSISTIC PERSON WHO HAS A NARCISSISTIC PERSONALITY. THEY ARE ENTITLED, GRANDIOSE, SELF-CENTRED. THEY ENVY OTHER PEOPLE. THEY ARE VERY MANIPULATIVE. THEY NEED EXCESSIVE PRAISE. THEY NEED EXCESSIVE ADMIRATION. THEY ENVY OTHER PEOPLE. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO THINK IT SHOULD BE ALL ABOUT THEM AND THAT THEY ARE MORE SPECIALTHAN ANYONE ELSE. HOW DO YOU SPOT ONE? WHAT OTHER RED FLAGS? BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IN PUBLIC THEY ARE A DIFFERENT PERSON THAN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. SO WHAT OTHER RED FLAGS? YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. THEY ARE VERY CHARMING AND CHARISMATIC AND CONFIDENT ` THAT IS PART OF THE TRICK. BUT THEY DON'T REALLY LISTEN TO YOU. THEY WILL INTERRUPTS. THEY MIGHT EVEN BOX SOMETHING YOU SAY. AND ONE OF THE REAL TELLS IS IF YOU GIVE THEM ANY FORM OF FEEDBACK THAT IS EVEN A TINY CRITIQUE, THEY WILL REACT WITH DISPROPORTIONATE RAGE, EVEN IF YOU TOLD THEM THEY PARKED IN THE WRONG PARKING SPOT. THAT WILL SEEM LIKE IT IS REALLY OFFKILTER FROM THAT CHARM AND CHARISMA YOU SAW BEFORE. ARE THERE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF NARCISSISM? IT IS ON A CONTINUUM. AT THE MILDEST LEVELS, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE LIKE INSTAGRAM NARCISSISTS, WHO ARE INTERESTED IN DISPLAYING THEIR LIVES IN PUBLIC FOR SOMETHING YOU SEE THE MALIGNANT NARCISSISTS. DO THEY KNOW THEY ARE ONE? DOES A NARCISSIST SIT THERE AND GO, WOW, THAT IS ME? THEY ACTUALLY OVERESTIMATE, FOR EXAMPLE, THEIR LEVEL OF EMPATHY. THEY THINK THEY ARE NICE PEOPLE AND EASY TO GET ALONG WITH AND GENEROUS AND CAN'T UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THEM. PEOPLE WHO ARE NARCISSISTIC ARE NOT PARTICULARLY INSIGHTFUL. SOME ARE AND OFTEN TAKE A DEVIL MAY CARE ATTITUDE OF, I DON'T CARE. I AM SUCCESSFUL. IF YOU'RE LIKE ME, THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM, NOT MINE. WHAT IS THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WHEN DEALING WITH SOMEONE WHO IS A NARCISSIST/. THEY WILL SHIFT BLAME ONTO YOU FOR THINGS YOU DIDN'T DO. YOU WILL BE CHRONICALLY CONFUSED. WHEN YOU ARE BEING MANIPULATED, YOU WILL THINK, THIS IS SOMEONE I LOVE, BUT THEY ARE WILLING TO SAY THIS TO ME. SO IT CONFUSES PEOPLE IN THESE RELATIONSHIPS. SO WHEN YOU TRY TO PUSH BACK AND SAY, THIS HURT ME, THE RAGE WILL BE MORE. PEOPLE THINK, WHAT DID I DO WRONG? IT WAS SO GOOD A WEEK AGO, WHAT CHANGED? I MUST BE THE ONE DOING SOMETHING WRONG, ESPECIALLY SINCE THE REST OF THE WORLD OFTEN THINKS THE PERSON IS GREAT, SUCCESSFUL AND CHARMING AND LOVELY. MEANWHILE, YOU ARE IN A REALLY UNHEALTHY RELATIONSHIP WITH THEM. SO THE TENDENCY IS TO BLAME OURSELVES, WONDER WHY WE ARE NOT ENOUGH IT WAS IS WRONG WITH US. THE OTHER PART OF IT AS WELL IS USED SEE THIS OTHER PERSON IN THIS OTHER WORLD AND THINK, THEY ARE AMAZING. THEN BEHIND CLOSED DOORS, THEY ARE A DIFFERENT PERSON. YOU THINK, IF THAT PERSON IS LIKE THAT THERE, MAYBE HE OR SHE CAN CHANGE. MAYBE I CAN CHANGE THEM. CAN A NARCISSIST CHANGE? PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE IN YOUR RELATIONSHIP. THEY MAY BE ABLE TO MAKE MICRO CHANGES LIKE SAYING THANK YOU A BIT MORE. BUT THE TIGHTER A RELATIONSHIP, THE LESS LIKELY A CHANGE WILL HAPPEN TO MAKE THAT RELATIONSHIP HEALTHIER. THIS DEVASTATES A LOT OF PEOPLE. THEY THINK, IF WE COULD JUST MAKE A CHANGE, IT WOULD BE FINE. BUT THEY HAVE VERY RIGID PERSONALITIES. IT IS NOT ENOUGH TO HEAL THE BROKEN PARTS OF THE RELATIONSHIP. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU VERY SHORTLY ABOUT HOW YOU ACTUALLY GET OUT OF A RELATIONSHIP WITH A NARCISSIST. BUT DO FRIENDS AND FAMILY SEE THIS KIND OF BEHAVIOUR? BECAUSE YOU ARE IN IT, YOU STAY IN NET POTENTIALLY LONGER THAN YOU SHOULD. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO FRIENDS AND FAMILY WHO SEE THIS BEHAVIOUR? IT OFTEN GOES THE OTHER WAY, THAT YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY ONLY SEE THE GOOD PARTS, BECAUSE THIS PERSON IS GOOD AT PUTTING ON A SHOW. SO EVEN AS THE PERSON GETS THE COURAGE TO LEAVE, SOMETIMES PEOPLE AROUND THEM ARE SAYING, I YOU SURE YOU ARE NOT MAKING A MISTAKE? THAT IS MORE OF THE STRUGGLE I HAVE SEEN PEOPLE FALL INTO RATHER THAN GETTING SUPPORT FROM FOLKS OUTSIDE. SO THAT IS GOING ON. HOW DO YOU GET OUT? HERE IS THE THING ` GETTING OUT IS NOT ALWAYS AN OPTION. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO SAVE MARRIAGES OR LONG-TERM RELATIONSHIPS, BECAUSE THEY HAVE SMALL CHILDREN, RELIGIOUS REASONS OR EVEN FINANCIAL REASONS. IT IS NOT GETTING OUT IS MUCH AS YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH AND GIVE YOURSELF TIME TO HEAL. IF YOU DO WANT TO GET OUT, AND IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO GET AWAY, FOR EXAMPLE FROM A PARENT, THERE ARE GOING TO BE EXPECTATIONS, AND THEY ARE NOT GOING TO LET YOU LEAVE. EVEN IF YOU CAN'T PHYSICALLY BREAK UP OR IN THE RELATIONSHIP. YOU CAN DEFINITELY DISENGAGE. STOP INTERACTING WITH THIS RELATIONSHIP IN A WAY THAT YOU THINK THIS PERSON IS LISTENING OR HAS EMPATHY FOR YOU. THEY ACTUALLY DON'T. SO THE MORE YOU HAVE RADICAL ACCEPTANCE FOR WHAT THIS IS, THE MORE YOU CAN ENGAGE IN THIS RELATIONSHIP. IT CAN ACTUALLY BE QUITE HEARTBREAKING IF IT IS YOUR LONG-TERM SPOUSE OR PARENT. BUT YOU HAVE TO STOP EXPECTING THEY WILL CHANGE. SOMEONE CAN FALL INTO THAT TRAP OF, YES, I KNOW THAT'S NOT GOOD FOR ME, AND THEN TIME GOES PAST, AND ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU FIND YOURSELF RETURNING BACK TO A RELATIONSHIP LIKE THAT. HOW DO WE AVOID THAT? IT IS NOT ALWAYS EASY TO AVOID IT, AND I ALWAYS TELL PEOPLE, IF YOU GET PULLED IN, DON'T SHAME YOURSELF, BECAUSE YOU WILL BE STUCK LONGER. YOU ARE HOLDING ONTO THE IDEALISED PARTS OF THIS PERSON. TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE, YOUR FRIENDS, ANYONE ELSE. THEN HAVE IT DOWN ON PAPER. THEN YOU LOOK DOWN AT THAT PIECE OF PAPER AND SAY, NO, I DO WANT TO GO THROUGH THAT AGAIN. IT IS TRICKY. SOMETIMES WITH THESE RELATIONSHIPS, IT SELECTIVELY PICKS UP THE GOOD STUFF AND WE FORGET ABOUT THE TERRIBLE THINGS THAT HAPPENED. MY COLLEAGUE HAS A QUESTION FOR YOU, BUT I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT, IF WE PUT RELATIONSHIPS ASIDE FOR A MOMENT, IF YOU WORK WITH SOMEONE OR INTERACT WITH SOMEONE ON A REGULAR BASIS WHO IS SHOWING THOSE TRAITS OF A NARCISSIST, HOW DO YOU DEAL WITH THAT? IT IS THE SAME RULES. IT IS TAKING A TOLL ON YOU. WE OFTEN UNDERESTIMATE THE IMPACT IN THE WORKPLACE WAS NOT TAKEN UP INTO YOUR CAREER, MAKE WORK REALLY STRESSFUL, MEAN SOMETIMES YOUR IDEAS ARE STOLEN, OR EVEN YOU ARE HARASSED AND ABUSED THAT WORK. WE SPEND A LOT OF OUR WAKING HOURS AT WORK. AND EVEN WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT FRIENDSHIPS, THEY ARE OFTEN JUST AS IMPORTANT AS FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS. SO WE END UP IN THE SAME LEVEL OF CONFUSION AND MAKING EXCUSES AND TRYING TO MAKE IT WORK. IT MAY FEEL DIFFERENT ` A FRIEND CAN'T CHEAT ON US, FOR EXAMPLE ` BUT IT IS THE SAME, BECAUSE WE REALISE THIS IS REALLY NOT A HEALTHY RELATIONSHIP, AND I AM GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS ACCORDINGLY. IT IS CHRIS IN THE STUDIO. WHEN YOU KNOW A NARCISSIST, YOU GO THROUGH THE CHECKLIST AND YOU FIND YOURSELF NODDING. BUT IF YOU ARE IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH SOMEONE OR YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO IS A HOUSE ASSIST AND STRUGGLING TO ACCEPT WHO THEY NARCISSIST* WHO THEY ARE, DO THEY THINK, IT WAS STARING ME IN THE FACE THE ENTIRE TIME, BUT IS IT DIFFICULT TO GET TO THAT POINT? PEOPLE THINK, IF I GET TO THAT POINT, I AM GOING TO LOSE THAT RELATIONSHIP. THAT'S WHY I SAY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO STAY. YOU CAN ENTERTAIN THAT RELATIONSHIP IN YOUR LIFE WITH A DIFFERENT SET OF EXPECTATIONS. THE LAST THING YOU WANT TO DO IS ROLL UP TO THAT PERSON AND SAY, I'VE GOT YOUR NUMBER, I KNOW YOU ARE NARCISSISTIC. YOU NEED NEW RULES OF ENGAGEMENT. THAT WAS A FASCINATING CONVERSATION. DR RAMANI JOINING US FROM LOS ANGELES. WOW, I FEEL... LIKE A NARCISSIST? IT'S NOT JUST THAT THAT PERSON THINKS ABOUT THEMSELVES; IT IS QUITE A LOT MORE THAN THAT. A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL BE THINKING, YES, CHECK. YOU CAN'T GO UP TO THEM AND SAY, I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE ABOUT, BECAUSE THAT IS NOT HOW THEY ARE GOING TO ENGAGE WITH YOU. IT IS A TRICKY ONE. SO NO ONE IS GOING TO BELIEVE THEY ARE ONE? YOU ARE DEFINITELY NOT ONE. ANYWAY, I'M NOT SURE WHAT FEEDBACK WE WANT OUT OF THAT. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK AFTER THE BREAK WITH YOUR 6.30 NEWS. STAY WITH US. # YOU WERE MADE FOR ME. (R & B MUSIC) (PHONE CHIMES) OK, OK! My Uber One membership savings don't disappoint. (MUSIC STOPS) You know what is disappointing? I was in one of the most iconic girl groups and no-one recognises me. (SCOFFS) MAN: Michelle! (R & B MUSIC) Michelle, you spit that out! Hmm? Naughty Michelle! Michelle, naughty! (MUTTERS) Who calls their dog Michelle? Sorry, but are you Michelle Williams? Yes! (CHUCKLES) Yeah. (R & B MUSIC) Dropped your wallet. (MUSIC STOPS) At least my Uber One savings don't disappoint. (R & B MUSIC) Can't take you anywhere, Michelle! A 12-YEAR-OLD HAS BEEN ARRESTED IN FINLAND, SUSPECTED OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING. ONE PERSON WAS KILLED AND THREE OTHER INJURED. THE BBC'S BEN WOOLVIN HAS MORE. AND ANXIOUS WAIT FOR PARENTS TRYING TO COLLECT THEIR CHILDREN AS NEWS OF THE SHOOTING SPREAD. POLICE WERE ON THE SCENE WITHIN NINE MINUTES OF THE EMERGENCY CALL. THEY SAY ALL OF THE VICTIMS WERE 12. TWO OF THEM HAVE BEEN SERIOUS INJURED. ANOTHER DIED AT THE SAME. ACCORDING TO THE LATEST INFORMATION, ONE OF THEM DIED ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. AND THE TWO OTHER VICTIMS WERE TRANSPORTED TO THE HOSPITAL IN HELSINKI. POLICE SAY THE SUSPECT, A 12-YEAR-OLD BOY, INITIALLY FLED THE SCENE, BUT HE WAS QUICKLY ARRESTED A SHORT DISTANCE AWAY IN HELSINKI. THEY SAY THE LICENSE FOR THE HANDGUN HE IS BELIEVED TO HAVE USED WAS HELD BY A CLOSE RELATIVE. THE PRIME MINISTER SAID INCIDENTS LIKE THIS REMAIN RARE, BUT HE SAYS EVERYONE IS ONE TOO MANY. THE POLICE SAY THEY DO NOT YET KNOW WHY A 12-YEAR-OLD BOY MIGHT HAVE CARRIED OUT THIS ATTACK ON OTHER CHILDREN. AT LEAST 29 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A FIRE IN A NIGHTCLUB IN TURKEY. THE MASQUERADE CLUB IN THE BASEMENT OF A HIGH-RISE BUILDING IN ISTANBUL WAS CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS. THE VICTIMS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. SEVERAL PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NIGHTCLUB MANAGER, HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE AS INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE. FOREIGN MINISTER WINSTON PETERS IS IN EUROPE THIS WEEK FOR THE NATO FOREIGN MINISTERS SUMMIT. HIS TRAVEL SO FAR HAS HAS SEEN A BRIEF STOP IN CAIRO BEFORE HEADING TO WARSAW YESTERDAY. OUR EUROPE CORRESPONDENT MEI HERON SENT THIS REPORT FROM BRUSSELS. DOZENS OF WORLD LEADERS ARE PREPARING TO MEET HERE AT NATO HQ IN BRUSSELS, INCLUDING OUR VERY OWN WINSTON PETERS. IT'S 75 YEARS SINCE THE NATO ALLIANCE WAS FORMED, SO IT'S A PRETTY SYMBOLIC TIME. BUT IT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR WINSTON PETERS TO BE HERE TOO, AS NATO FOCUSES MORE ON THE HAPPENINGS IN THE INDO-PACIFIC REGION, PARTICULARLY CHINA AND CHINA'S RISE AND CHINA'S INFLUENCE. NATO HAS RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT CHINA BEING A THREAT TO ITS SECURITY TOO, WHICH IS WHY IT'S TRYING TO UP ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH COUNTRIES LIKE NEW ZEALAND. OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, WE CAN EXPECT LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND PARTICULARLY CYBER SECURITY, AND THAT'S POIGNANT GIVEN RECENT NEWS THAT CHINA TRIED TO HACK NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. BUT GIVEN THE GLOBAL INSECURITY AT THE MOMENT WITH THINGS LIKE UKRAINE WAR, IT'S ALSO A REALLY IMPORTANT TIME FOR NEW ZEALAND TO HAVE A FRONT-ROW SEAT TO THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST MILITARY ALLIANCE. THERE ARE CALLS FOR CHANGE AFTER A MASSIVE GENDER GAP IN KIWISAVER CONTRIBUTIONS WAS HIGHLIGHTED. THE RETIREMENT COMMISSION'S REVEALED A 36% GAP BETWEEN THE AMOUNT MEN AND WOMEN ARE PUTTING INTO THEIR KIWISAVER EACH YEAR. THE RESEARCH INDICATES THE GAP IS CAUSED BY THE GENDER PAY GAP, NOT A DIFFERENCE IN CONTRIBUTION RATES. HIS BALANCE HAS OVERTAKEN MINE. SO THAT 10-YEAR HEADSTART I HAD HAS REALLY BEEN ECLIPSED BY THE THREE CHILDREN AND THE CAREER CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING THOSE CHILDREN. THE AVERAGE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS FOR MEN WERE APPROXIMATELY 39% HIGHER THAN WOMEN. TO SPORT, AND THE MOST CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME, SAM WHITELOCK, IS RETIRING FROM RUGBY. WHITELOCK BEGAN HIS PROFESSIONAL CAREER WITH CANTERBURY BACK IN 2008 AND DEBUTED FOR THE ALL BLACKS IN 2010. HE PLAYED THE LAST OF HIS 153 TESTS IN THE BLACK JERSEY AT LAST YEAR'S RUGBY WORLD CUP IN THE FINAL AGAINST THE SPRINGBOKS. THE LOCK WON TWO WORLD CUPS IN 2011 AND 2015 AND ALSO CAPTAINED THE SIDE IN 18 TESTS. WHITELOCK WILL OFFICIALLY HANG UP THE BOOTS AT THE END OF THE FRENCH CLUB SEASON, WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR PAU. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. (FUNKY MUSIC) AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` ITS GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON, THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND, WITH A HIGH OF 23. 22 FOR KAITAIA. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23. OVER TO THE WEST ` PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH ` IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON, WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU, THE SOUTH ISLAND ` BLUE SKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. BLENHEIM, YOU'LL BE REACHING A HIGH OF 22. 20 FOR NELSON. HEADING SOUTH ` YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY, CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON, WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. DUNEDIN WITH A HIGH OF 21. THANKS, CHRIS. THE BAY OF ISLANDS ` IT'S A HOLIDAY HOTSPOT KNOWN FOR IT'S VAST BEACHES, THE BAY OF ISLANDS ` IT'S A HOLIDAY HOTSPOT KNOWN FOR ITS VAST BEACHES, MARINE LIFE AND HISTORY. AND THIS WEEK, THANKS TO NORTHLAND INC, WE'RE GIVING AWAY RETURN FLIGHTS FOR TWO, A RENTAL CAR, TWO NIGHTS' ACCOMMODATION, A WAITANGI TREATY GROUNDS TOUR AND A FULLER GREAT SIGHTS EXPERIENCE TO THE ICONIC HOLE IN THE ROCK. TO ENTER, JUST HEAD TO winwithbreakfast.co.nz. WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING THE WINNER LIVE ON THE SHOW THIS FRIDAY. THIS SEGMENT BROUGHT TO YOU BY NORTHLAND INC. ME U TONU MAI ` WE'VE ALL BEEN THERE STOOD IN A BOOTH ON ELECTION DAY. STARRING AT THE BALLOT PAPER SAYING IS THERE LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE. NOW IN THE UNITED STATES THERE QUITE LITERALLY IS ANYBODY ELSE. FIND OUT WHAT I MEAN NEXT. # GOT STARS IN MY EYES. # IN THE END, IT'S STRONGER THAN I KNOW HOW TO BE. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. A 14-YEAR-OLD CAMPAIGNING TO GET INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS BACK TO DUNEDIN HAS SECURED HIMSELF A PRETTY IMPORTANT MEETING TODAY. BENJAMIN PATERSON WHO HAS COLLECTED 25,000 SIGNATURES ON HIS PETITION OVER THE PAST YEAR IS AT THE AIRPORT READY TO BOARD A FLIGHT TO MEET THE PRIME MINISTER TO MEET THE PRIME MINISTER, WHO KNOWS A THING OR TWO ABOUT RUNNING AN AIRLINE. BENJAMIN JOINS ME THIS MORNING. WHO ARE YOU OFF TO SEE? WHEN IS THE MEETING? I AM ABOUT TO GO AND MEET CHRISTOPHER LUXON. JUST THE PRIME MINISTER, THEN, IS IT? YES. AT 9:15 AM. YOU HAVE GOT YOUR PETITION AND HAND. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE ASKING HIM? I AM GOING TO ASK IF HE HAS SEEN IT AND WHAT HE THINKS OF IT AND HOW IT NEEDS TO BE BETTER. AND IF HE NEEDS A BIT OF CONVINCING, PIECES DO YOU, BECAUSE HE IS A BUSINESSMAN AS WELL, WHAT WILL YOU SAY TO HIM TO CONVINCE HIM THAT THIS IS THE RIGHT IDEA? I DON'T REALLY KNOW, BUT I HAVE TO PERSUADE HIM AND TALK TO HIM NICELY. THAT WILL GET YOU A GOOD WAYS. YES. THAT IS THAT, BASICALLY. THAT IS THE GAMEPLAN. I RECKON THAT IS A GOOD GAME PLAN TO GO AND WITH. HOW HARD IF YOU HAD TO WORK OVER THE LAST YEAR TO GET ALL OF THE SIGNATURES? IT HAS BEEN VERY STRESSFUL. BUT IT HAS ALSO BEEN VERY POSITIVE AND A GREAT LEARNING EXPERIENCE. I REMEMBER WE SPOKE TO YOU LAST YEAR ON THE SHOW. CAN YOU REMIND US AGAIN WHY IT IS YOU THINK IT IS SO IMPORTANT TO GET INTERNATIONAL FLIGHTS BACK TO DUNEDIN? BECAUSE PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO GO TO STOPOVERS AND ALSO IT SAVES A LOT OF TIME. HOW LONG IS YOUR MEETING FOR TODAY? DO YOU KNOW HOW LONG YOU HAVE WITH THE PRIME MINISTER? ABOUT 30 MINUTES. THAT IS A GOOD MEETING. THAT IS LONGER THAN WE HAVE WITH HIM EVERY WEEK. GOOD LUCK. I RECKON YOU SHOULD BE ABSOLUTELY FINE. GO WELL. LIKE YOU SAID, BE NICE AND POLITE. I THINK THAT WILL GET YOU FAR. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. THANK YOU. HOW'S THIS FOR A POLITICAL STAND ` A TEXAS MAN, UNIMPRESSED BY THE CURRENT U.S. PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES, HAS LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME TO 'LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE'. AND ANNOUNCED HIS BID FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. SURELY YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE PRETTY DESPERATE ABOUT THE POLITICAL STATE OF PLAY TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. WE SPOKE WITH HIM EARLIER TO FIND OUT JUST HOW DESPERATE YOU NEED TO BE TO MAKE THAT CHANGE. I MAY BE MORE WILLING TO TAKE THE PLUNGE THAN ANY OTHERS TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, CHANGE MY NAME. YOU KNOW, I HAD THIS FEELING BACK WHEN WE HAD THE 2020 ELECTION, WHEN IT WAS TRUMP AND BIDEN THE FIRST TIME. AND I REMEMBER THINKING, YOU KNOW, AT THE BALLOT, YOU KNOW, I WISH THERE WAS SOMEBODY ELSE. LIKE, I WISH LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE WAS AN OPTION THEN, JUST TO KIND OF RESET THE ELECTION TO TRY AGAIN. AND AS TIME PASSED ON, YOU KNOW, LAST YEAR I HAD THE IDEA. I WAS LIKE, I BET I CAN MAKE MONEY OFF OF THIS SENTIMENT IF I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE. SO I BOUGHT THE DOMAIN AND KIND OF SAT ON IT. BUT AS WE GOT CLOSER AND CLOSER TO ELECTION SEASON, IT BECAME APPARENT THAT WE WERE GOING TO GET A WHOLE NOTHER RUN OF JUST VERY SUBPAR CANDIDATES. AND THE LEAVES THAT KIND OF BROKE THE CAMEL'S BACK WAS ONE OF THE REPUBLICAN DEBATES IN JANUARY. SO AFTER THAT, I FILLED OUT THE PAPERWORK TO CHANGE MY LEGAL NAME. I WENT BEFORE A JUDGE, AND I WAS LIKE, HERE. LIKE, I KNOW YOU JUST DEALT WITH SOME VERY SERIOUS DIVORCE CASES, BUT HERE'S MY CHANGE TO 'LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE'. AND SHE LOOKED AT IT AND SHE LOOKED AT ME, AND SHE'S LIKE, 'SO YOU'RE GOING TO BE THAT GUY?' AND I WAS LIKE, YEAH, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO. AND SHE SAID, OK. SO SOMEBODY HAD TO BE THAT GUY, HUH? WHAT IS IT ABOUT PRESIDENT BIDEN AND DONALD TRUMP THAT MADE YOU THINK IT WAS TIME SOMEONE ELSE RAN AGAINST THEM FOR THE PRESIDENCY? THEY BOTH HAD TIME IN THE PRESIDENCY. THEY BOTH HAVE HAD TIME IN THE OVAL OFFICE. AND SO ALREADY THERE WE'VE SEEN THEIR PERFORMANCE. WE KNOW THAT IT'S SUBSTANDARD. WE KNOW THAT WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY TALENTED INDIVIDUALS TO CHOOSE FROM IN THIS COUNTRY. AND IT'S NOT EVEN THAT THEY DON'T BEAT THE TALENTED ONES. IT'S LIKE THEY DON'T EVEN BEAT THE AVERAGE. AND THAT'S THE SENTIMENT HERE. YOU KNOW, I CONSIDER MYSELF THE AVERAGE GUY. I MEAN, I'M EVEN WITHOUT THE NAME, I'M RELATABLE BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I AM A TEACHER. I ONLY MAKE $60,000 PER YEAR. YOU KNOW, THAT'S NOT THAT MUCH. IT'S NOT REALLY EASY TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF THINGS WITH THAT KIND OF WAGE. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, I SUFFER FROM A LOT OF THE SAME STRUGGLES THAT MANY PEOPLE LIKE ME SUFFER. YOU KNOW, I CAN CONNECT. I HAVE A GREATER CAPACITY TO CONNECT WITH THE EVERYDAY AMERICAN. SO DOES THIS MEAN AMERICANS ACROSS ALL 50 STATES WILL BE ABLE TO VOTE FOR YOU, 'LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE'? SO WE ARE PAST THE DEADLINE FOR TWO OF THE STATES. SO NORTH CAROLINA AND UTAH. THEIR DUE DATES WERE EARLY IN MARCH, SO... BUT I CAN STILL, YOU KNOW, PUNCH IN AS A WRITE-IN. SO I HOLD OUT HOPE. BUT THE OTHER STATES ARE DEFINITELY FEASIBLE. YOU KNOW, IT'S NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. BUT, YOU KNOW, WITH AS MUCH SUPPORT AS WE'VE GOTTEN, AS MUCH SUPPORT AS WE'VE RECEIVED ON THE WEBSITE, JUST PEOPLE WANTING TO VOLUNTEER. PEOPLE ARE HUNGRY FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, THAT'S A LOT LESS IMPOSSIBLE THAN IT WAS TWO WEEKS AGO. YOU'RE OBVIOUSLY GETTING A LOT OF PUBLICITY ALREADY AROUND YOUR NAME CHANGE. WHAT ARE YOU ACTUALLY HOPING, THOUGH, TO ACHIEVE? SO WORST CASE SCENARIO, WE MOVE THE NEEDLE. YOU KNOW, POLITICS HAS GOTTEN SO POLARISED. AND THAT RIGHT THERE IS SOMETHING THAT WE JUST NEED TO GET RID OF. I MEAN, I'M RUNNING ON THE TICKET OF UNITY. YOU KNOW, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT AMERICANS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE, YOU KNOW, CAN GET BEHIND. THAT'S THE POINT ` LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE. THE PARTIES HAVE GONE SO FAR AWAY FROM CENTRE THAT WE WANT LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE TO BRING US BACK. THAT IS WHAT I REPRESENT. NOW, THE BEST CASE SCENARIO IS IF WE DO IN THE WHITE HOUSE, I BECOME THE PRESIDENT THAT HAS ACCOMPLISHED THE IMPOSSIBLE. AND MOVING FORWARD, THAT IS A VALUABLE ASSET FOR GETTING THINGS DONE. OK. YOU'RE TAKING IT PRETTY SERIOUSLY. ANY PLANS TO CHANGE YOUR NAME BACK AFTER THE ELECTION? 1000%. YOU KNOW, THIS IS... IT IS A GIMMICK. IT IS DESIGNED TO GET YOUR ATTENTION. IT WASN'T A LITE DECISION TO MAKE THIS LEGAL NAME CHANGE, BECAUSE IT'S NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IT'S A IT'S A HASSLE TO FILE PAPERWORK, BUT, YOU KNOW, THAT'S ME. I AM DUSTIN EBEY AT HEART. BUT FOR THE TIME BEING, I NEED TO BE LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. THAT WAS MR LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE. WE GOT THROUGH THAT ENTIRE INTERVIEW WITHOUT TELLING HIS REAL NAME. WE WILL NOT TELL YOU WHAT HIS OTHER NAME IS. WE HAVE ACTUALLY BEEN DOING A BIT OF RESEARCH AROUND THE DIFFERENT NAMES OF DIFFERENT CANDIDATES. THIS IS FROM AROUND THE WORLD. WE HAVE COME UP WITH COUNTER BIN FACE. HIS MANIFESTO FOR THE ELECTION WAS BETTER THAN ONE OF THE SERIOUS CANDIDATES. WE HAVE HAD SOME UNUSUAL CANDIDATES HERE. A WOMAN CALLED ANGELA GILL STOOD FOR WHANGAREI DISTRICT COUNCIL EVEN THOUGH SHE WASN'T A CITIZEN. ANOTHER ONE WAS A GUY CALLED DAVID HAYHURST FOR THE AUCKLAND MAYOR. HE SAID YOU CANNOT WITHDRAW FROM UNLESS YOU GO MAD OR DIE. PARTY, PARTY, PARTY IN AUSTRALIA. NAMES SHOULD TELL YOU WHAT THEY DO. THE BEER PARTY. FAMOUSLY TRY TO LAUNCH THE CHRIS CHANG PARTY. CCP HAD SOME NEGATIVE CONNOTATIONS. A COUPLE OF SPEEDBUMP THERE. THAT TIES STRAIGHT BACK INTO BEING A NARCISSIST. REMEMBER THE TAGLINE ` CHANGE BEGINS WITH CHANG. POLITICS WAS NOT MY THING. E HAERE AKE NEI ` LOVE IS NOT IN THE AIR. THE FAMOUS DUNEDIN MURAL OF THE SAME NAME HAS ALL OF A SUDDEN DISAPPEARED. WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT'S HAPPENED TO IT NEXT. (UPBEAT MUSIC) We got a new car you have to plug in. It goes for two wee stops. (DOG BARKS) One masterpiece. And four unlucky possums! Five! VOICEOVER: Fast charge on the road and pay like you're at home. With Genesis at charge net stations. # LOVE IS IN THE AIR # EVERYWHERE I LOOK AROUND. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. DUNEDIN IS HOME TO JUST A OVER A DOZEN MURALS ACROSS THE CITY, BUT IF YOU'RE A LOCAL YOU MAY HAVE NOTICED THAT ONE OF THEM HAS GONE MISSING LATELY. THE 'LOVE IS IN THE AIR' PIECE HAS BEEN OUTSIDE MANSFIELD APARTMENTS FOR NINE YEARS, BUT IN A SHOCK FOR LOCALS, HAS BEEN PAINTED OVER. ONE OF THOSE LOCALS IS RACHEL ELDER FROM SOUTH DUNEDIN ART TRAILS WHO JOINS ME THIS MORNING. KIA ORA, RACHEL. WHAT HAS HAPPENED HERE? KIA ORA. WELL, WHAT HAS HAPPENED IS THE MURAL HAS BEEN PAINTED OVER IN A BEAUTIFUL BLUE CANVAS. AND IT WAS A COMPLETE MYSTERY TO EVERYBODY AS TO WHAT WAS HAPPENING. SO I WAS DOING SOME REGULAR OP SHOPPING DOWN THAT STREET, AND I SAW IT BEING PAINTED OVER, AND I WAS JUST AS INTRIGUED BY EVERYONE ELSE AND QUITE ALARMED THAT THIS AMAZING PAINTING HAD BEEN COVERED OVER. IT IS AMAZING, AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY VERY PROMINENT. WHO PAINTED IT AND WHY WAS THE DECISION MADE TO GET RID OF IT? IT IS A POLISH WOMAN. NOW I AM JUST LOOKING AT THE NAME OF THE PERSON. WE'VE GOT SOME SHOTS OF HER AT THE MOMENT. SHE WAS A POLISH WOMAN, AND SHE CAME OVER TO PAINT THE PIECE, AND IT IS ACTUALLY MASSIVE. MASSIV YOU WOULD BE LOOKING AT 3020-30 SQUARE METRES. WERE THE OWNERS THINKING, I WANT A BIT OF A CHANGE, WHAT HAPPENED THERE? IT TURNS OUT THERE'S A BIT MORE OF A BACK STORY THAN EVERYBODY THOUGHT. PEOPLE WERE SHOCKED AND INTRIGUED, AND THERE WAS A BIT OF CHAT ONLINE, AND PEOPLE WERE ALARMED, BUT ACTUALLY, IT WAS PLANNED MAINTENANCE, SO THEY ACTUALLY HAD TO DO SOME WORK ON THAT WALL. THEY'VE DONE THE WORK, AND THEY'VE PAINTED OVER. SO IT'S A BEAUTIFUL BLUE CANVAS RIGHT NOW. BUT, SINCE THEN, GOOD NEWS ` THE LANDLORD IS SAYING THEY ARE WORKING WITH DUNEDIN STREET ART TO LOOK AT PUTTING ANOTHER PIECE UP. PERFECT. EXCITING. ALL IS WELL THAT ENDS WELL. DO YOU KNOW WHO'S DOING THE NEW ARTWORK? WILL THERE BE A COMPETITION PERHAPS? I THINK WHAT THEY ARE DOING IS LOOKING FOR AN ARTIST AND PUTTING IT OUT THERE TO AN ARTIST. AND THEN WHAT THEY DO IS THEY SHOW THE PIECE OF ART, THE STREET ART, TO THE LANDLORD AND TO THE PEOPLE WHO CAN SEE IT IN THE AREA, AND THEN GO FROM THERE. PERFECT. SO THEY HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE NEIGHBOURS. DUNEDIN HAS AMAZING STREET ART ALL OVER THE PLACE. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT STREETART AND HOW IT BEAUTIFIES THE AREA AND GIVES IT LIFT? IT ADDS COLOUR AND VIBRANCY, BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE BIG AND SMALL PIECES AND ALL KINDS OF NOOKS AND CRANNIES, IT ADDS A LOT OF INTRIGUE. YOU GO AROUND THE CORNER AND GO, THERE IS ANOTHER PIECE OF STREET ART. SO THERE IS A LOT OF MYSTERY AND INTRIGUE AS YOU GO AROUND THE CITY. SO THERE ARE ACTUALLY STREET ART TOUR GUIDES THAT GO AROUND AND TAKE PEOPLE AROUND. AND DUNEDIN HAS AMAZING STREET ART. ONE OF THE PIECES THEY DID RECENTLY IS ED SHEERAN ON HIS CONCERT, AND PEOPLE WERE TAKING PHOTOS OUTSIDE. DO YOU THINK IT DETERS PEOPLE FROM GRAFFITI AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT ART IS PRESERVED? IT DOES DETER PEOPLE. AND ACTUALLY SOMETIMES PEOPLE DO IT BECAUSE OF THAT. KIWIRAIL, FOR EXAMPLE, SPONSORS A LOT OF STREET ART ON THEIR INFRASTRUCTURE, BECAUSE IT DETERS GRAFFITI ARTISTS, REALLY. THIS IS GREAT NEWS. WE MAY HAVE TO GET A REPORTER DOWN THERE TO CHECK OUT THE NEW PAINTING WHEN IT HAPPENS. LET US KNOW WHEN IT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. YES, COME AND VISIT DUNEDIN AND SEE OUR STREET ART. BYE. I REMEMBER AT SCHOOL, YOU USED TO DO THAT IN YOUR CLASSROOM, TALKING ABOUT PRIMARY SCHOOL. YOU WOULD DO A MURAL AND PUT YOUR BITS AND PIECES ON IT. I HATED IT. THAT IS CHILD SLAVE LABOUR. YOU WOULD DO IT IN THE CLASSROOM ITSELF AND JUST GO, YOU RUINED IT, MATES, WITH THAT. WITH THE KIDS ARTWORK? CRITIQUING FROM A VERY YOUNG AGE. YOU DO THIS AMAZING ARTWORK, AND THEN SOMEONE WOULD PUT THIS THING NEXT TO IT. AND THEN YOU GO, COULDN'T YOU PUT IT ON THAT SIDE? ANYWAY. JUST WONDERING ABOUT OUR 6.20 INTERVIEW ALL OVER AGAIN. WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN HAS NOW PAUSED... NO, THAT'S THE NEWS. NO, THAT'S IT. THAT'S WHAT COMING UP? THIS ACTUALLY A LOT THAT'S COMING UP. WE DO HAVE CARMEL SEPULONI JOINING US IN PLACE OF THE PRIME MINISTER. THERE WE GO. GETTING TO WORK EACH MORNING FOR AUCKLANDERS IS SET TO GET MORE EXPENSIVE, WITH CONGESTION CHARGES ON THE WAY. CONSULTATION ON OUR BIGGEST CITY'S LONG TERM PLAN HAS NOW CLOSED. MAYOR WAYNE BROWN WILL TELL US HOW HE'S TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK ON A LITTLE LATER. AND THIS QUITE LARGE PIGGY NEEDS A NEW GRAZING SPOT. WHY ONE DUNEDINITE SAYS IT'S OUTGROWN HER BACKYARD. THAT'S RIGHT, WE'RE HEADING BACK DOWN SOUTH. BUT FOR NOW, AFTER A BIT OF BACK AND FORTH, WE'VE ARRIVED. HERE'S CHRIS WITH THE NEWS. ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED ITS AIR STRIKE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING SEVEN AID WORKERS IN GAZA. THE CHARITY WORKERS WERE ATTACKED AFTER LEAVING A WAREHOUSE IN CENTRAL GAZA WHERE THEY HAD UNLOADED MORE THAN 100 TONS OF FOOD. VEHICLES IN THE CONVOY WERE HIT DIRECTLY, DESPITE THE 'WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN' LOGO CLEARLY DISPLAYED AND THE ORGANISATION'S PRIOR COORDINATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY. THE IDF SAYS IT WILL LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT. WE HAVE BEEN REVIEWING THE INCIDENT IN THE HIGHEST LEVELS TO UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT HAPPENED. WE WILL BE OPENING A PROBE TO EXAMINE THE SERIOUS INCIDENT FURTHER. THIS WILL HELP US REDUCE THE RISK OF SUCH AN EVENT FROM OCCURRING AGAIN. WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN HAS NOW PAUSED ITS OPERATIONS IN GAZA, WHERE FAMINE IS LOOMING. A CHILD (12) HAS BEEN ARRESTED IN FINLAND, SUSPECTED OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING. THREE STUDENTS WERE SHOT AND ONE OF THEM KILLED AT A SCHOOL NEAR THE COUNTRY'S CAPITAL, HELSINKI. POLICE SAY THE SUSPECT USED A HANDGUN BELONGING TO A CLOSE RELATIVE. HE INITIALLY FLED BUT WAS LATER DETAINED AND ADMITTED TO CARRYING OUT THE SHOOTING. AT LEAST 29 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A FIRE IN A NIGHTCLUB IN TURKEY. THE MASQUERADE CLUB IN THE BASEMENT OF A HIGH-RISE BUILDING IN ISTANBUL WAS CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS. THE VICTIMS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. SEVERAL PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NIGHTCLUB MANAGER, HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE AS INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE. PASSENGERS ON A LATAM AIRLINES FLIGHT THAT EXPERIENCED A MID-AIR DROP BETWEEN SYDNEY AND AUCKLAND HAVE BEEN OFFERED COMPENSATION. AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE WERE INJURED WHEN THE PLANE SUFFERED WHAT THE AIRLINE DESCRIBED AS A 'TECHNICAL EVENT'. A LAW FIRM REPRESENTING SOME OF THE PASSENGERS SAYS THEY'VE BEEN OFFERED BETWEEN $2500 AND MORE THAN $8000. BUT THE LAWYERS HAVE WARNED THEM NOT TO SIGN ANYTHING, SAYING THEY'RE LIKELY ENTITLED TO SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. THE GENDER PAY GAP IS CREATING MORE THAN JUST A DIFFERENCE IN PAY RATES. NEW DATA FROM THE RETIREMENT COMMISSION SHOWS THAT EVEN WITH EQUAL CONTRIBUTIONS IN TERMS OF PERCENTAGES TO KIWISAVER, THE COMPOUNDING DIFFERENCE OVER TIME LEAVES WOMEN WITH ABOUT A THIRD LESS IN THEIR FUNDS THAN MEN. THERE ARE CALLS FOR LEGISLATION TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE TIME WOMEN TAKE OUT FOR MATERNITY LEAVE AND CHILDCARE. I THINK CREATING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WOMEN TO WORK FLEXIBLY, ALLOWING THAT RETURN TO WORK, AND CHANGING THE WAY WE THINK ABOUT WORK A BIT SO THAT WOMEN DON'T GET CAUGHT OUT BY THAT CAREER GAP THAT SOMETIMES HAPPENS, THAT WOMEN LEAVE WORK TO GO AND HAVE CHILDREN AND THEN TRY AND RETURN AND USUALLY RETURN AT THAT SAME POINT OR SLIGHTLY BELOW THE SKILL SET WHEN THEY LEFT DUE TO THAT CONFIDENCE GAP. THE THINGS WE CAN DO TO THAT WOULD HELP. THE GENDER PAY GAP IS 8.6%, WHILE THE END DIFFERENCE IN KIWISAVER FUNDS IS A WHOPPING 36%. NEARLY ONE IN FIVE DRUGS TESTED IN NEW ZEALAND LAST YEAR CONTAINED DRUGS DIFFERENT TO WHAT WAS EXPECTED. NEW DATA RELEASED BY THE NEW ZEALAND DRUG FOUNDATION SHOWS 8.5% OF TESTS CONTAINED A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT DRUG AND 6.5% INCLUDED AN ADDITIONAL PSYCHOACTIVE OR HAZARDOUS SUBSTANCE. OVER THE PAST YEAR, THERE'S BEEN A 51% INCREASE ON DRUG CHECKING, WITH MORE THAN 1500 SAMPLES TESTED. TO SPORT, AND ONE OF THE GREATEST ALL BLACKS OF ALL TIME, SAM WHITELOCK, HAS SIGNALLED THE END OF HIS PLAYING CAREER.WILL WITH A PROFESSIONAL CAREER SPANNING 16 YEARS, WHITELOCK MADE HIS DEBUT FOR CANTERBURY IN 2008 AND FIRST PLAYED FOR THE ALL BLACKS IN IN 2010. THE MOST-CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME WITH 153 TESTS, HE CAPTAINED THE SIDE 18 TIMES AND WON TWO RUGBY WORLD CUPS IN 2011 AND 2015. WHITELOCK CREDITED THE SUPPORT OF HIS FAMILY FOR HIS ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE SPORT. NO WAY I COULD HAVE ACHIEVED THIS WITHOUT HER. AND IT'S HARD, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T THANK EVERYONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY PARENTS, BROTHERS, COUSINS, AUNTIE'S, GRANDPARENTS HAVE BEEN A MASSIVE PART. WHITELOCK IS CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR FRENCH CLUB PAU AND WILL RETIRE AT THE END OF THE DOMESTIC SEASON IN FRANCE. AND TAKING A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON, THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND, WITH A HIGH OF 23. FURTHER SOUTH ` CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. AND HAMILTON AS WELL. TO THE EAST COAST ` IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23 AND NAPIER. OVER TO THE WEST ` PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH ` IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON, WITH A HIGH OF 18. 23 IN WHANGANUI. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU, THE SOUTH ISLAND ` BLUE SKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. 17 DEGREES FOR YOU. HEADING SOUTH ` YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY, CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. 23 THERE. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. TO THE DEEP SOUTH ` SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON, WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. 16 DEGREES THERE. DUNEDIN, YOU ARE LOOKING NICE THIS MORNING. WITH A HIGH OF 21 DEGREES. THE THREE STRIKES LAW IS SET TO BE RESTORED JUST TWO YEARS AFTER IT WAS SCRAPPED. THE LAW WAS SUPPOSED TO DETER REPEAT OFFENDERS WITH THE THREAT OF PROGRESSIVELY LONGER MANDATORY PRISON TERMS. CRITICS SAY IT LED TO OVERCROWDING IN PRISONS WITHOUT IMPROVING PUBLIC SAFETY. FOR MORE, WE'RE JOINED BY CRIMINOLOGIST ROGER BROOKING IN WELLINGTON AND VICTIM ADVOCATE LOUISE NICHOLAS IN ROTORUA. MORENA TO YOU BOTH. THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. LOUISE, CAN I START WITH YOU? WHY DO YOU THINK IT IS A GOOD THING WE ARE BRINGING BACK THREE STRIKES? I'VE BEEN DOING THIS WORK SUPPORTING SURVIVORS THROUGH THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM FOR 15-16 YEARS NOW, AND DURING THAT TIME WITH THE THREE STRIKE LAWS THERE, THOSE THAT WERE GIVEN THE STRIKE, OUR SURVIVORS WERE SAYING, GOOD. THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN. BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT THIS PERSON BACK OUT IN THE COMMUNITY REOFFENDING. IF THIS CAN BE A DETERRENT FOR THAT PERSON, FOR THE COMMUNITY, IT IS A GOOD THING. ROGER, CAN I BRING YOU IN HERE, THEN? BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ARE AGAINST THIS. WHY DO YOU NOT WANT THREE STRIKES TO COME BACK? IT IS AN IGNORANCE PIECE OF LEGISLATION, AND THERE ARE THREE GOOD REASONS WHY ` WHY IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. IT DOESN'T ACT AS A DETERRENT, BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO END UP COMMITTING THESE KINDS OF CRIMES HAVE ALL KINDS OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, ADDICTIONS, BRAIN INJURIES, OTHER NEURO DIVERSE ISSUES, AND THEY DON'T MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS AND THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES ` WELL, I'VE DONE IT TWICE BEFORE, IF I DO IT ONCE MORE I'M GOING TO GET A SEVEN YEAR PRISON SENTENCE. IT DOES NOT DETER OFFENDING. THE SECOND THING IS IT REMOVES THE JUDICIAL DISCRETION OF JUDGES. BASICALLY IT MAKES JUDGES HAVE TO IMPOSE THESE LONG SENTENCES. SO AT TURNS THEM INTO RUBBER STAMPS, BASICALLY. AND I DON'T THINK THAT'S HELPFUL FOR JUSTICE IN NEW ZEALAND. THIRDLY, WHEN THE THREE STRIKES LEGISLATION WAS OPERATING IN NEW ZEALAND, A LEAD TO MANIFESTLY UNJUST RESULT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OF INDIVIDUALS WHO GOT A SEVEN YEAR PRISON SENTENCE, ONE OF THEM FOR KISSING SOMEBODY IN THE STREET, THAT WAS HIS THIRD STRIKE. ONE WAS A GUY ALREADY IN PRISON ON HIS SECOND STRAIGHT, AND HE PATTED A FEMALE PRISON OFFICER ON THE BACKSIDE ` NOT COOL, I'M NOT SAYING THAT IS ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOUR, BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY A SEVEN YEAR PRISON SENTENCE WITH NO PAROLE. LOUISE, I WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THE CURRENT SYSTEM AND WHAT ARE VICTIMS NOT SEEING? FOR A LOT OF OUR SURVIVORS, JENNY MAY, ALL THEY WANT IS FOR THE PERSON THAT HAS HARMED THEM TO GET THE HELP THAT IS NEEDED, SO THAT WHEN THEY DO COME BACK OUT INTO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY ARE SAFE. THE COMMUNITY IS SAFE. I ACTUALLY DISAGREE A LITTLE BIT WITH WHAT HAS BEEN SAID, BECAUSE NOT EVERYBODY THAT GOES INTO PRISON, THAT COMMITTED THESE SERIOUS CRIMES, HAS MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, ADDICTIONS. SOME OF THEM ARE JUST NORMAL PEOPLE, IF I CAN PUT IT THAT WAY. SO IF YOU ARE PREPARED TO HARM PEOPLE, THEN THEY ARE PREPARED TO DO THE TIME. WHEN YOU COME OUT, AND YOU ARE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN, BE PREPARED TO GO BACK IN AND HAVE A LONGER SENTENCE. IT DOES COME DOWN TO INDIVIDUAL FACTS AROUND JUDGES. YES, THEY SHOULD HAVE MORE DISCRETION. BUT IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONTINUOUSLY HURT PEOPLE, THEN EXPECT TO DO THE TIME. IT IS AS SIMPLE AS THAT. I THINK I WILL GO BACK TO MY SECOND PART OF MY QUESTION AROUND THE VICTIMS AND WHAT THEY AREN'T SEEING WITHIN OUR COURT SYSTEM. WHAT IS THE ISSUE FOR OUR VICTIMS? THAT THEY ARE SEEING PEOPLE COME IN AND OUT WITHOUT HAVING THE PROPER... WHETHER IT IS PRISON SENTENCES, IS THAT HOW VICTIMS ARE FEELING? THEY ARE. THEY DON'T BELIEVE THAT WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO THEM, THAT THE TIME THAT IS GIVEN FOR A PRISON SENTENCE... IF YOU RAPE SOMEBODY, THE PRISON SENTENCE IS 20 YEARS, BUT WE HAVE NEVER SEEN THAT. IT HAS NEVER HAPPENED. AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT COMES DOWN TO OUR SURVIVORS WHO ARE WANTING THAT PERSON WHO HAS HARMED THEM TO DO THEIR TIME BUT ALSO BE HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO ACTUALLY SHOW THAT REMORSE. WANT TO COME OUT NOT HARMING AGAIN ` THAT IS WHAT THEY WANT. THEY WANT THEM TO GET THE HELP THEY NEED. AND ARE PRISON SYSTEMS DON'T REALLY PROVIDE THAT. THERE ARE PROGRAMS OUT THERE. THE PROBLEM BEING THEY ARE NOT WORKING. WE NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT WITHIN. ROGER, I WANT TO BRING YOU BACK IN THERE. THEREIN LIES THE PROBLEM, RIGHT? REHABILITATION. YOU HAVE SPOKEN TO US ABOUT THIS BEFORE. SOMETHING LIKE THREE STRIKES DOESN'T ACTUALLY ALLOW FOR THAT REHABILITATION, RIGHT? THEORETICALLY, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR IT, BECAUSE IF YOU GET A SEVEN YEAR PRISON SENTENCE WHICH IS WHAT IS GENERALLY BEING OPPOSED IN THESE CASES, IN ORDER TO GET INTO A REHABILITATION PROGRAM IN PRISON, YOU HAVE TO BE DOING A SENTENCE OF TWO YEARS OR MORE. CORRECTIONS DEFINES THAT AS A LONG SENTENCE. THEORETICALLY SOMEONE WHO ENDS UP IN PRISON ON THEIR THIRD STRIKE SHOULD END UP IN A REHABILITATION PROGRAM. BUT I TOTALLY AGREE WITH LOUISE ` THESE PROGRAMS DON'T WORK. I HAVE DONE QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS. CORRECTIONS DEPARTMENT OFFERS 15-20 KINDS OF INTERVENTIONS TO REHABILITATE THEIR OFFENDERS, AND THEY EVALUATE HOW EFFECTIVE THEY ARE 12 MONTHS AFTER RELEASE. IT REDUCES OFFENDING ON AVERAGE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 1% AND AT THE ABSOLUTE BEST 10%. SO PRISON REHABILITATION, WHICH COSTS A COUPLE OF HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS TO THE TAXPAYER EACH YEAR IT IS MONEY THAT DAVID SEYMOUR COULD SAVE, BECAUSE IT GOES DOWN THE TOILET. THERE IS A WEALTH OF RESEARCH ` 91% OF PEOPLE WHO END UP IN PRISON HAVE A LIFETIME HISTORY EITHER OF ADDICTION OR A MENTAL ILLNESS OR BOTH. I DISAGREE THAT THEY ARE JUST NORMAL PEOPLE. THEY COME FROM BACKGROUNDS WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN VICTIMISED. THEY HAVE SUFFERED ALL KINDS OF ABUSE, NEGLECT, SYSTEMIC DEPRIVATION, SEXUAL VIOLENCE. THEY WERE VICTIMS LONG BEFORE THEY BECAME OFFENDERS. IN NEW ZEALAND WE SET UP THIS ARTIFICIAL DICHOTOMY BETWEEN VICTIMS AND OFFENDERS AS IF THEY ARE SPECIES OF A DIFFERENT PLANET. THAT IS SIMPLY NOT THE CASE. THEY ARE HUMAN BEINGS. AND IF YOU DO THAT STUFF TO CHILDREN, THEY END UP WITH ALL TYPES OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES AND DEVELOP THESE PROBLEMS. THE ONLY REHABILITATION THAT I HAVE COME ACROSS IN MY YEARS AS A CRIMINOLOGIST THAT ACTUALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE AS THE COURT IN AUCKLAND. THAT REDUCES REOFFENDING BY 86%. WHAT ARE THEY DOING? IN THE DRUG COURT? YES. YOU HAVE TO BEAST FACING A SENTENCE OF UP TO 3 YEARS IN PRISON. YOU HAVE TO BE CONSIDERED A HIGH-RISK RECIDIVIST OFFENDER, AND YOU HAVE TO BE ASSESSED AS HAVING AN ADDICTION, A SUBSTANCE USE DEPENDENTS. SO IT IS NOT EASY TO GET INTO, AND THE COURT ONLY TAKES A MAXIMUM OF 50 DEFENDANTS AT ANY ONE TIME. THERE IS ONE IN AUCKLAND AND ONE IN HAMILTON. BASICALLY, IT IS A PROCESS WHEREBY THERE IS JUDICIAL MONITORING OF THE OFFENDER TO ENSURE THAT THEY ATTEND THE PROGRAMS THEY ARE TOLD TO ATTEND, THEY GET REGULAR DRUG TESTING TO MAKE SURE THEY ARE DRUG-FREE. IF THEY HAVE OTHER ISSUES, THEY ARE ADDRESSED. IT IS A WRAPAROUND SERVICE. THEY COME BACK TO COURT ON A REGULAR BASIS, AND THE JUDGE TALKS TO THEM FACE-TO-FACE WITHOUT THE INTERVENTION OF LAWYERS, PROSECUTORS, DEFENCE LAWYERS, THEY ARE ALL THERE IN THE COURT AND GET THIS DAY, BUT BASICALLY IT IS THE JUDGE TALKING TO THE DEFENDANTS AND ENCOURAGING THEM TO WORK THROUGH THE PROGRAM THAT HAS BEEN SET FOR THEM. THIS IS POTENTIALLY A REHABILITATION PROGRAM THAT CAN BE USED IN OTHER AREAS OF THE COURT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. LOUISE, I WANT TO COME BACK TO YOU AND THE POINT THAT ROGER WAS TALKING ABOUT. MANY OF THESE OFFENDERS ARE VICTIMS THEMSELVES. 91%, IN FACT. YES. I AGREE. BUT I ALSO KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE SITTING IN COURT AND HEARING THE SENTENCING, NOT EVERYBODY, ESPECIALLY WITH THOSE THAT I'VE DEALT WITH OVER THE YEARS, LITERALLY THEY HAVE NO ISSUES. THERE HAVE BEEN NO ISSUES. THEY HAVE BEEN OPPORTUNISTS, AND THEY ARE OUT THERE, AND THAT IS THE SAD REALITY. SO, YES, THERE ARE VICTIMS WHO BECOME OFFENDERS. BUT I AM SORRY, BUT THOSE THAT I HAVE WITNESSED IN THE PAST, THE MAJORITY HAVE BEEN JUST JOE BLOG, NORMAL JOE BLOG. ROGER, I SEE YOU STAKING AHEAD THERE, BUT UNFORTUNATELY I CAN'T COME BACK TO YOU. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. NO DOUBT YOU HAVE DIFFERING VIEWS ON THE GOVERNMENT AND HOW THEY CAN BRING THIS BACK OVER THE THREE MONTHS. E HAERE AKE NEI ` NOW THE THREE STRIKES IS SET TO RETURN, HOW DOES LABOUR FEEL THAT YET ANOTHER OF THEIR LAWS (UPBEAT MUSIC) WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. LABOUR IS HITTING BACK AT THE GOVERNMENT'S LATEST 36-POINT ACTION PLAN, WITH ONE OF THE GOALS ` THE RESTORATION OF THE THREE STRIKES LAW. VICTIM ADVOCATES SAY CRIMINALS NEED TO LEARN YOU DO THE CRIME, YOU DO THE TIME, BUT ACADEMICS AND LEGAL EXPERTS SAY IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. IT WAS ON THAT BASIS THAT LABOUR THREW OUT THREE STRIKES IN 2022. SO WHAT DO THEY MAKE OF ITS RETURN? DEPUTY LEADER CARMEL SEPULONI JOINS ME NOW. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. WHAT ARE YOUR CONCERNS AROUND IT COMING BACK? THE OVERRIDING CONCERN IS HERE THEY GO AGAIN, RECYCLING POLICIES THAT HAVE NO EVIDENCE BASE AND DO NOT WORK. THESE BOOT CAMP HAVE NO EVIDENCE BEHIND THEM TO SUGGEST THEY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE. A WASTE OF RESOURCES, TIME, AND BIG TALK FROM A GOVERNMENT WHO HAVE SAID THEY ARE GOING TO USE EVIDENCE AS THE BASE FOR ALL OF THEIR POLICIES, AND THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS. THEY WILL SAY, AND CRITICS OF THE LAST GOVERNMENT, WILL SAY CRIME ROSE DURING LABOUR TIME IN GOVERNMENT, AND YOU WERE NOT ABLE TO MITIGATE THAT. WE NEED A DETERRENT. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF FACTORS WITH RESPECT TO CRIME, BUT WE NEED TO BE LOOKING AT INITIATIVES AND POLICIES THAT ACTUALLY WORK TO REDUCE CRIME. THIS IS NOT ONE OF THEM. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE BASE TO SUPPORT THAT WORKS. HERE WE ARE HEADING DOWN THE TRACK AGAIN, AND THAT DOES NOT HELP MAKE NEW ZEALAND SAFER FOR KIWIS. WHAT THEN DO YOU MAKE OF THE CONCEPT THAT IT WILL RESULT IN MORE PEOPLE BEHIND BARS, THAT SURELY WILL NEED MORE STAFF, MORE PRISONS, MORE INFRASTRUCTURE. THERE IS THAT SIDE OF IT AS WELL. DO WE REALLY WANT TAXPAYER DOLLARS TO BE SPENT ON MEGA PRISONS AND LOCKING PEOPLE UP? IS THAT REALLY THE COUNTRY WE WANT TO LIVE IN? WHERE DOES THAT MONEY COME FROM? IT IS TAKEN AWAY FROM OTHER AREAS THAT COULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO PEOPLE'S LIVES. CONVERSELY, ACTS AND NATIONAL WILL SAY WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THESE SORTS OF THINGS, WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE VICTIMS, AND IT IS THEM THAT HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THE TRAUMA THAT HAPPENED TO THEM, IT IS THEN THAT DO NOT HAVE A SAY IN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN SOMEONE KEEPS GOING OUT AND OFFENDING. HOW DO YOU BALANCE THAT WITH THE RIGHTS OR WANT THE VICTIMS IN THIS SCENARIO? VICTIMS HAVE TO BE FRONT AND CENTRE, BUT THERE ARE OTHER AREAS THAT NEED INVESTMENT IN THEM TO SUPPORT VICTIMS AND TO MITIGATE THE RISK OF PEOPLE BEING VICTIMS. ONE AREA THAT WE INVESTED INSIGNIFICANTLY WAS IN THE BILE IN SPACE AND FAMILY VIOLENCE BASE AND SUPPORTING THOSE PROGRAMS THAT ARE SET UP TO SUPPORT VICTIMS AND ALSO TO WORK WITH PERPETRATORS SO THAT WE CAN STOP THE VIOLENCE BEING A KEY FACTOR IN PEOPLE'S LIVES AND THE HUGE NUMBER OF VICTIMS THAT LIVE IN HOUSEHOLDS WHERE THAT IS AS A FACTOR IN SOMETHING THEY LIVE WITH. LOCKING PEOPLE UP IS NOT NECESSARILY THE ANSWER, AND WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IS THAT THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS WORKING. THIS IS PART OF THE GOVERNMENT'S LATEST 36 POINT ACTION PLAN. HAVE YOU READ THE PLAN? I HAVE. MUCH OF THE PLAN IS JUST BUSINESS AS USUAL. WHEN YOU GO THROUGH IT, I THINK ABOUT HALF OF THE ACTION POINTS ARE TAKE INCISIONS. GOVERNMENTS HAVE TO TAKE DECISIONS ALL THE TIME. THERE ARE THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE LIKE INTRODUCING A BUDGET. THOSE TYPES OF THINGS HAVE NOW BEEN PACKAGED UP INTO WHAT THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO SELL TO NEW ZEALAND AS SOME KIND OF BUSINESS PLAN FOR THE COUNTRY WHEN REALLY IT IS BUSINESS AS USUAL. THE COUNTRY IS NOT A BUSINESS. BUT THESE ARE THINGS THAT ANY GOVERNMENT WOULD GET ON AND DO. IT IS A STRATEGY. IT GIVES PEOPLE A MEASURABLE OUTCOME, OR IT GIVES PEOPLE AN IDEA OF THE FUNCTIONS OF DEMOCRACY AND WHAT THE GOVERNMENT HAS SAID THAT IT WILL DO. THERE IS A LOT OF JARGON AND THERE. NOT A LOT OF DETAIL WITH RESPECT TO WHAT CERTAIN POINTS MAY ENTAIL. AND I THINK WHAT REALLY THE GOVERNMENT IS TRYING TO DO IS LEVERAGE UP THE FACT THAT THE PRIME MINISTER USED TO BE THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OF A COMPANY AND THEREFORE THEY ARE GOING TO TREAT NEW ZEALAND BY THE COMPANY. I TELL YOU WHAT ` YOU CANNOT RUN A COUNTRY LIKE A COMPANY. THERE ARE SO MANY COMPLEX FACTORS TO PEOPLE'S LIVES. PEOPLE ARE NOT COMMODITIES, SO THIS IS NOT NECESSARILY THE WAY TO DO IT. THEY ARE ALREADY POINTING TO SOME SUCCESSES IN THE WAY THEY ARE RUNNING THE COUNTRY, ONE OF THE BEING THE SCHOOL CELL PHONE BAN. CHRISTOPHER LUXON SAID EVEN KIDS ARE LOVING IT. HOW COME LABOUR WAS NOT SO PUSHED ON PUTTING A BAN IN PLACE IF IT IS WORKING? SCHOOL TELL US THAT IT IS. SCHOOLS COULD ALREADY DO IT. MY SON IS THAT INTERMEDIATE. THIS IS SOMETHING THEY HAD ALREADY IMPLEMENTED AS PART OF THEIR PLAN FOR THEIR SCHOOL. IT JUST SEEMS BIZARRE THAT THE GOVERNMENT MAKES SUCH A BIG DEAL ABOUT SOMETHING THAT SCHOOLS COULD ALREADY DO, THAT SCHOOLS WERE ALREADY DOING, AND SO IT IS NOT NECESSARILY THAT THE GOVERNMENT CAN CLAIM A WIN ON THIS. THERE WAS COMMONSENSE ALREADY BEING APPLIED BY SO MANY SCHOOLS ACROSS THE COUNTRY WITH RESPECT TO CELL PHONES. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. ALL RIGHT. STAY WITH US. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA ` YOUR 7.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. (UPBEAT MUSIC) THERE'S CONCERNS AROUND THE RESTORATION OF THE THREE STRIKES LAW WITH ONE CRIMINOLOGIST LABELLING IT A 'STEP BACKWARDS'. THE LAW, REINTRODUCED BY THE GOVERNMENT JUST TWO YEARS AFTER IT WAS SCRAPPED, IS SUPPOSED TO DETER REPEAT OFFENDERS WITH THE THREAT OF PROGRESSIVELY LONGER MANDATORY PRISON TERMS. BUT CRITICS SAY IT DOESN'T STOP OFFENDING. IT JUST DOESN'T WORK. FIRST OF ALL, IT DOESN'T ACT AS A DETERRENT, AND THAT'S PRIMARILY BECAUSE PEOPLE WHO END UP COMMITTING THESE KIND OF CRIMES HAVE ALL KINDS OF MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, ADDICTIONS, BRAIN INJURIES, TRAUMATIC BRAIN INJURY, OTHER NEURODIVERSE ISSUES, AND THEY DON'T MAKE RATIONAL DECISIONS AND THINK ABOUT THE CONSEQUENCES. ONE VICTIM ADVOCATE DISAGREES SAYING EVERY CRIMINAL SHOULD BE PREPARED TO DO THE TIME FOR THEIR CRIME. A MIXED PICTURE FOR NEW ZEALAND HOUSEHOLDS AND BUSINESSES, BUT THE LATEST REPORT FROM GOVERNMENT CREDIT AGENCY 'CENTRIX' SAYS THERE ARE REASONS TO BE CAUTIOUSLY OPTIMISTIC. THE REPORT SHOWS MORE THAN 450,000 PEOPLE WERE BEHIND ON CREDIT PAYMENTS IN MARCH, BUT THAT'S DOWN 23,000 FROM THE PREVIOUS MONTH. ARREARS IN THE LAST QUARTER WERE 8.1% HIGHER THAN THE SAME TIME LAST YEAR, CLIMBING AFTER HISTORIC LOWS IN 2020 AND 2021. MORE THAN 22,000 MORTGAGE ACCOUNTS WERE ALSO PAST DUE, UP 18% YEAR ON YEAR, WITH AN INCREASE OF MORE THAN 800 FROM JANUARY TO FEBRUARY. ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED ITS AIR STRIKE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING SEVEN AID WORKERS IN GAZA. THE CHARITY WORKERS WERE ATTACKED AFTER LEAVING A WAREHOUSE IN CENTRAL GAZA WHERE THEY HAD UNLOADED MORE THAN 100 TONNES OF FOOD. VEHICLES IN THE CONVOY WERE HIT DIRECTLY, DESPITE THE 'WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN' LOGO CLEARLY DISPLAYED AND THE ORGANISATION'S PRIOR COORDINATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY. THE IDF SAYS IT WILL LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT. A TEXAS MAN HAS TAKEN A POLITICAL STAND, CHANGING HIS NAME TO 'LITERALLY ANYBODY ELSE' AND RUNNING FOR U.S. PRESIDENT. UNSATISFIED WITH A REMATCH BETWEEN DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN, THE SCHOOL TEACHER (35) LEGALLY CHANGED HIS NAME IN JANUARY AND ANNOUNCED HIS BID FOR THE WHITE HOUSE. THEY BOTH HAD TIME IN THE PRESIDENCY. THEY BOTH HAD TIME IN THE OVAL OFFICE. WE HAVE SEEN A PERFORMANCE, WE KNOW WE CAN DO BETTER. ESPECIALLY WHEN WE HAVE SO MANY TALENTED POLITICIANS FROM THIS COUNTRY. THEY DON'T BEAT THE AVERAGE. MR ELSE WILL NEED AT LEAST 113,000 SIGNATURES FROM NON-PRIMARY VOTERS IN TEXAS BY MID MAY TO MAKE THE BALLOT, WHICH HE ACKNOWLEDGES IS PRACTICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. TO SPORT AND THE MOST CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME SAM WHITELOCK IS RETIRING FROM RUGBY. WHITELOCK'S BEGAN HIS PROFESSIONAL CAREER WITH CANTERBURY BACK IN 2008 AND DEBUTED FOR THE ALL BLACKS IN 2010. HE PLAYED THE LAST OF HIS 153 TESTS IN THE BLACK JERSEY AT LAST YEAR'S RUGBY WORLD CUP IN THE FINAL AGAINST THE SPRINGBOKS. THE LOCK WON TWO WORLD CUPS IN 2011 AND 2015 AND ALSO CAPTAINED THE SIDE IN 18 TESTS. WHITELOCK WILL OFFICIALLY HANG UP THE BOOTS AT THE END OF THE FRENCH CLUB SEASON WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR PAU. AND FINALLY, SHE MIGHT NOT BE NUMBER ONE...YET, BUT TAYLOR SWIFT HAS JOINED AN EXCLUSIVE LIST. FOR THE FIRST TIME, THE MUSIC SUPERSTAR IS ON THE FORBES BILLIONAIRES LIST WITH $1.8 BILLION. HERE'S THE BBC'S ELLIE PRICE. # WE WERE BOTH YOUNG WHEN I FIRST SAW YOU. # TAYLOR SWIFT WAS YOUNG WHEN SHE FIRST STARTED MAKING SOME SERIOUS CASH FROM HER MUSIC. JUST 16. BUT TEN STUDIO ALBUMS AND 14 GRAMMYS LATER, SHE'S EVEN GOT INDUSTRY EXPERTS TALKING ABOUT 'SWIFTONOMICS'. THAT'S THE ECONOMIC BOOST SHE BRINGS TO THE PLACES SHE PLAYS. SHE'S CREDITED WITH NUDGING UP VIEWING FIGURES AT THE SUPER BOWL, AND IT'S THOUGHT HER RECENT TOUR MADE MORE THAN $1b IN TICKET SALES ALONE, WITH SOME ESTIMATING IT CONTRIBUTED NEARLY $6b TO THE US ECONOMY. SHE'S SO SUCCESSFUL, YOU CAN EVEN STUDY HER AT HARVARD UNIVERSITY. IT STARTS AND ENDS WITH THE SONG SHE WRITES AND OF COURSE, CO-WRITES SONGS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO HEAR. SHE'S ALSO GOT A HEAD FOR BUSINESS. SHE UNDERSTANDS MONEY. SHE'S A GOOD MANAGER. SHE'S ABLE TO BOUNCE BACK FROM PUBLIC SETBACKS, AND SHE' S CONNECTED EMOTIONALLY TO ALL OF THOSE FANS. # COS BABY, NOW WE GOT BAD BLOOD. # TAYLOR SWIFT MAY HAVE NO BAD BLOOD WITH HER MODEST $1.1b. THERE WERE 14 CENTIBILLIONAIRES ON THE RICH LIST. THAT'S PEOPLE WITH 12 FIGURES, 11 ZEROES IN THE GREEN BIT OF THEIR BANK BALANCE. FORBES SAID THE CLASS OF 2024 IS NOW WORTH $2 TRILLION. # IT'S SO SAD TO... # THE TRUISM, AND THEY CAN'T QUITE SHAKE IT OFF, THE SUPER RICH KEEP GETTING RICHER. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE MARKETS. FEELS LIKE IT'S BEEN THREE WEEKS SINCE WE LAST HEARD FROM TAYLOR SWIFT. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` ITS GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND WITH A HIGH OF 23. FURTHER SOUTH, CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE, HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. TO THE EAST COAST., IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23. OVER TO THE WEST, PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH, IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU, THE SOUTH ISLAND ` BLUESKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. BLENHEIM, YOU'LL BE REACHING A HIGH OF 22. HEADING SOUTH, YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY. CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. TO THE DEEP SOUTH, SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. DUNEDIN WITH A HIGH OF 21. IT'S RENOWNED AS ONE OF AOTEAROA'S CHERISHED HOLIDAY DESTINATIONS ` THE BAY OF ISLANDS. AND THIS WEEK, THANKS TO NORTHLAND INC, WE'RE GIVING AWAY RETURN FLIGHTS FOR TWO, A RENTAL CAR, TWO NIGHTS' ACCOMMODATION, A WAITANGI TREATY GROUNDS TOUR, AND A FULLER GREAT SIGHTS EXPERIENCE TO THE ICONIC HOLE IN THE ROCK. TO ENTER, JUST HEAD TO winwithbreakfast.co.nz. WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING THE WINNER LIVE ON THE SHOW THIS FRIDAY. THIS SEGMENT BROUGHT TO YOU BY NORTHLAND INC. ME U TONU MAI ` THE PLEA FOR MORE BLOOD DONATIONS TO SAVE MORE LIVES. A VERY PERSONAL MESSAGE FROM A FAMOUS FATHER WHO LOST HIS SON, NEXT. 'GIVE THE ULTIMATE KOHA' IS THE MESSAGE FROM ENTERTAINER PIO TEREI. HE'S URGING PEOPLE TO DONATE BLOOD THIS SATURDAY AT A BLOOD DRIVE IN AUCKLAND'S MOUNT ALBERT. IT'S IN THE NAME OF HIS SON TEINA, WHO PASSED AWAY IN 2016 AFTER A BATTLE WITH LEUKAEMIA. HE WAS JUST 17. PIO JOINS US IN STUDIO ALONGSIDE JONNIE MORATH, A CLOSE FRIEND OF TEINA'S. WELCOME. I SEE THAT PHOTO AND I START TO WELL UP. HOW YOU DOING? IT IS ALWAYS HARD. IT IS TOUGH BECAUSE EVERYTHING IS ABOUT HIM. I DON'T MIND CRYING, ALL MEN CRY. YEAH IT IS A CHALLENGING TIME AND I'M A BIT SICK. THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE. JOHNNY, YOU WERE A GOOD MATE OF HIS. YOU'VE GIVEN BLOOD, BUT YOU'VE GOT A STEP FURTHER. I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO JOIN THE BONE MARROW REGISTRY. I GOT SELECTED BACK IN 2018, WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS AND I WAS ABLE TO GIVE SOME BONE MARROW AND SAVE A LIFE. WHAT WAS THE PROCESS LIKE? IT'S QUITE EASY, IT IS NOT AS COMPLICATED AS SOME PEOPLE MIGHT THINK. I TOOK A COUPLE OF INJECTIONS, SAT ON A MACHINE WHICH TOOK UP THE STEM CELLS, EASY. ON SATURDAY WE WANT TO MAKE IT A USER-FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT. WE GOT CAKE, MUSIC, ART... BEDS IN A CIRCLE, PEOPLE CAN RELAX AND GIVE BLOOD. IT IS ABOUT EDUCATING OUR FAMILY THAT THIS IS SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO SAVE LIVES AND MAKE PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THAT SPACE. IT IS NOT AN ISSUE UNTIL YOU NEED IT OR SOMEBODY IN YOUR FAMILY DOES. IT IS ONE THING TO GIVE, WHAT YOU GET BACK FROM DOING SOMETHING LIKE THIS? HE SAID IT BEST. IT'S NOT EVERYDAY YOU GET TO SAVE A LIFE. IT'S THE ULTIMATE GIFT YOU CAN GIVE SOMEBODY. IF I HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO AGAIN, 100%. YOU TALK ABOUT THE ATMOSPHERE YOU CREATE, WHAT ARE YOU SAYING TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE SOME HESITATION? IT'S QUITE FUNNY. I WAS TALKING TO SOME OF THE BROS, WHO WERE NEEDLE PHOBIC BUT THEY ARE COVERED IN TATTOOS. YOU'VE HAD FOUR HOURS OF TATTOOING BUT YOU CAN'T TAKE A LITTLE PRICK. IF YOU LOOK BACK AT YOUR FAMILY, YOU WILL FIND SOMEWHERE, SOMETIME THAT SOMEBODY WITHIN YOUR FAMILY HAS HAD TO TAKE SOME OF HIS BLOOD. IT IS TIME FOR US, BECAUSE MOST OWNERS ARE PAKEHA, IT IS TIME FOR US TO GIVE. *DONORS THERE MIGHT BE SOME FEAR ABOUT THE WHOLE PROCESS. IS INTERESTING STUFF BY GIVING AWAY SOMETHING SO SPECIAL. THAT SOME INTERESTING STUFF WITH MAORI ACADEMICS. PEOPLE STRUGGLE WITH IT, BUT THEY SAY NOW I GIVE MY BLOOD AND I HAVE A WHOLE DIFFERENT VIEW. GOING BACK WITHIN MAORI MYTHOLOGY, SOMETIMES IT IS CONVENIENT FOR SOME PEOPLE TO SAY THAT IS NOT WHAT WE DO, BUT I RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THOSE BELIEFS. IF YOU ARE LIKE THAT, COME DOWN AND HAVE A GO. I SHOULD HAVE BEEN PREPARED TO THIS INTERVIEW, SOMEBODY CAME DOWN WHO WAS 84 WHO HAD HIS BLOOD TAKEN. LET'S DO THIS. EVERYBODY. WE'LL EVEN HAVE CHENGY. BEAUTIFUL TO SEE YOU. ALWAYS LOVELY TO HAVE YOU. THANK YOU FOR COMING IN. I THANK YOU FOR DONATING BLOOD AND BONE MARROW. THE TEINA TRUST BLOOD DRIVE IS THIS SATURDAY 9am TO 3pm AT TE WANANGA TAKIURA IN MOUNT ALBERT, AUCKLAND. YOU'LL NEED TO REGISTER BY GOING TO THE 'TRUST TEINA' FACEBOOK PAGE. PLEASE REGISTER. WE HAVE A FEW SPACES LEFT, EVEN IF YOU COME DOWN AND JUST SAY HI, LEARN A BIT ABOUT THE PROCESS, WE WILL LOOK AFTER YOU. E WHAI AKE NEI ` HE'S THE PIGGEST STAR OF SOUTH DUNEDIN, BUT THIS LITTLE PIGGY NEEDS SOME MORE GRASS TO MUNCH ON. FIND OUT HOW YOU CAN HELP NEXT. GOOD MORNING AUCKLAND. THAT GLORIOUS SUNSHINE PICKING UP THE CORNER TO THE EAST. MAINLY FINE TODAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM AFTERNOON WITH ISOLATED SHOWERS. LIGHT WINDS. NOTHING AROUND THIS MORNING THOUGH, LOOK AT THAT. HIGH OF 23 DEGREES. HAMILTON ` MAINLY FINE APART FROM MORNING CLOUD OR FOG. LIGHT WINDS. THAT SEEMS TO BE LIFTING OVER THE CITY. HIGH OF 22 DEGREES. WELLINGTON ` CLOUDY PERIODS. STRONG NORTHERLIES DEVELOPING THIS MORNING. BEAUTIFUL. HIGH OF 18 DEGREES. LOOKING GLORIOUS FROM THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN. CHRISTCHURCH ` AREAS OF MORNING CLOUD, OTHERWISE FINE. WHERE PROMISING A FINE DAY. HIGH CLOUD INCREASING THIS EVENING. NORTHEASTERLIES. NOT A SUPER WARM, BUT NOT BAD DAY. HIGH OF 22 DEGREES. DUNEDIN ` MAINLY FINE WITH HIGH CLOUD. CLOUD INCREASING FROM LATE AFTERNOON, AND A FEW SPOTS OF LIGHT RAIN POSSIBLE THIS EVENING. NORTHERLIES DEVELOPING THIS MORNING. HIGH OF 21 DEGREES. BABIES. THEY START OFF SMALL, BUT FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, THEY'RE JUST GROWING, GROWING, GROWING. IN SOME CASES, TURNING OUT MUCH BIGGER THAN YOU EXPECT. THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED TO DUNEDIN LOCAL SARAH ALEXANDER AFTER SHE ADOPTED HER PIG PIGLET WHO NOW TIPS THE SCALES AT 120kg. SO NOW, THIS NOT SO LITTLE PIGGY IS IN NEED OF A PASTURE TO GRAZE ON. TO TELL US ABOUT THIS PIG PROBLEM IS PIGLET HIMSELF AND HIS OWNER SARAH. MORENA! THANKS FOR COMING ON THE SHOW. HE HAS MOMENTS THREE TRIES AND PUSHES ME OFF THE BED. HE IS SIZEABLE. HUNDRED AND 20 KG IS A HEFTY ANIMAL, AND I CAN IMAGINE TAKES UP A LOT OF ROOM IN A SUBURBAN BACKYARD. YOU'RE NOT LIKING TO REHOME HIM, RIGHT? THIS IS ABOUT A DAY CARE. WE ARE JUST LOOKING FOR SOMEWHERE TO DROP OFF FOR A COUPLE OF HOURS A DAY WITHIN WALKING DISTANCE OF US, WERE I CAN JUST LEAVE HIM, GO ROUND, PICK UP AFTER, AND GO HOME. YOU'RE GOING TO WALK? HOW LONG DO YOU TAKE ON THESE WALKS? THE FURTHEST I HAVE TAKEN HIM HAS BEEN ALL THE WAY AROUND TO HALINA STREET PARK, WHICH IS THREE STREETS AWAY FROM US AND JUST BACK AROUND THE BLOCK AND HOME. SO HE CAN DO A BIT OF EXERCISE. HE CAN GET A WEE BIT AROUND TO VISIT THE NEIGHBOURS IF ANYONE HAS A SUITABLY SIZED BACKYARD. CAN YOU TELL ME HOW YOU BECAME THE OWNER? HE WAS GETTING REHOMED AT A PET SHOP, AND I WENT AND HAD A LOOK AT HIM AND FELL IN LOVE, SO I TOOK HOME WITH ME. DID THEY WARN YOU AT THE TIME, THIS PIG IS SO CUTE, JUST TAKE HIM? OR DID THEY SAY, HE WILL BE OKAY, I GUESS? THEY WERE CONFIDENT THAT HE WOULD BE OK. WE WERE NOT SURE WHAT WE WERE ALL DOING TOGETHER AS A COLLECTIVE. THEY DID NOT EXPECT ME TO PROBABLY MAKE THEM SO MUCH OF A PET AS I HAVE. I WENT THE OTHER AVENUE, AND TREATED LIKE ONE OF THE DOGS. HE'S GOT A WEE BIT BIG AND A BIT BORED OF THE BACKYARD. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BEING A BIT BORED IN THE BACKYARD, HOW DOES THAT MANIFEST? HOW DOES HE CAUSE TROUBLE? HE WILL GO AND PICK UP THE WATER BOWL AND THROW IT. HE WILL KNOCK OVER TABLES AND CHAIRS. HE WILL GO AND STAND AT THE CHEERS AND YELL TO THE NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOUR UNTIL THEY GO AND TALK TO HIM. HE YELLS AT THE NEIGHBOURS? YES, HE STANDS AT THE FENCE LINE AND THEY ALL POPPED OVER THE FENCE AND TALK TO HIM. THEY ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO POP AHEAD AROUND THE FENCE, BUT NO TAKERS, YET. WHAT SORT OF YARD ARE WE LOOKING FOR, AND HOW CAN PEOPLE GET IN TOUCH? IDEALLY, I AM LOOKING FOR SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY DOGS BECAUSE HE IS A LITTLE TERRITORIAL BECAUSE HE GREW UP WITH OUR GIRLS. HE IS A BIT FUNNY WITH OTHER DOGS. WE LOOKING FOR A FULLY FENCED YARD AND SOMEONE THAT HAS A PATCH OF GRASS AND HE WILL DO ALL ITS DUTIES. AS A POSITIVE IS GOOD IF YOU DO NOT HAVE A LAWNMOWER. YOU CAN ADD THE PIG COME AND VISIT A COUPLE TIMES A WEEK. TOTALLY, AND HE MIGHT KNOCK ON YOUR DOOR AND ASKED TO COME INSIDE FIVE MINUTES AND THEN GO BACK OUTSIDE. THE US INSIDE? HE SLEEPS INSIDE. IS INSIDE A BEDROOM, OF COURSE HE IS ALLOWED INSIDE. HE HAS HIS OWN BED! I AM ON HIS BED. IT IS JUST A SINGLE MATTRESS ON THE FLOOR. WOW. THIS IS A LIFE OF LUXURY FOR OPAQUE. CAN I ASK QUICKLY, HOW OFTEN DO YOU WEIGH HIM? HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU AT THIS WEIGHT? THE LAST TIME THAT I WEIGHED HIM WOULD HAVE BEEN WHEN WE WENT FOR A BETTER TRIP WHICH WAS QUITE A WHILE AGO NOW. HE MIGHT GOT A BIT BIGGER, OK. GOOD LUCK WITH THIS. YOU MIGHT NEED THAT WERE THE PIG THAT SIZE. I HAVE HAD A FEW OFFERS. WE HAVE ABOUT THREE PROPERTIES WE CAN VISIT, SO WE'RE DOING PRETTY GOOD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO CHECKING OUT WHETHER YOU. PICK HAS NO INTEREST IN BEING FAMOUS ON TELEVISION THIS MORNING. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. I HOPE IT COMES BACK FROM THOSE OTHER PLACES. WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT? SORRY, I HOPE SHE WAS STILL NOT LISTENING. IT'S 8 O'CLOCK. ERE'S CHRIS WITH THE NEWS. THE GOVERNMENT'S PLANS TO BRING BACK THE THREE STRIKES LAW HAS BEEN MET WITH MIXED REACTIONS. THE REINTRODUCTION OF THE LAW WAS REVEALED BY THE GOVERNMENT JUST TWO YEARS AFTER IT WAS SCRAPPED BY THE LABOUR GOVERNMENT CRITICS SAY IT LEADS TO OVER CROWDING IN PRISONS BUT ONE VICTIM ADVOCATE SAYS IT WILL STOP CRIMINALS RE-OFFENDING. IF YOU'RE PREPARED TO HARM PEOPLE, THEN BE PREPARED TO DO THE TIME. WHEN YOU COME OUT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN, BE PREPARED TO GO BACK IN AND HAVE A LONGER SENTENCE. LABOUR'S DEPUTY LEADER CARMEL SUPULONI ARGUES THERE'S NO EVIDENCE THIS POLICY ACTUALLY WORKS. UH, THIS, BOOT CAMPS... BOTH HAVE NO EVIDENCE BEHIND THEM TO SUGGEST THAT THEY MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE AND SO, A WASTE OF RESOURCES, A WASTE OF TIME AND BIG TALK FROM A GOVERNMENT WHO'VE SAID THEY'LL USE EVIDENCE AS THE BASE FOR ALL THEIR POLICIES AND CLEARLY, THERE'S NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THIS. ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED ONE OF ITS AIR STRIKES WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING SEVEN AID WORKERS IN GAZA. THE CHARITY WORKERS WERE ATTACKED AFTER LEAVING A WAREHOUSE IN CENTRAL GAZA WHERE THEY HAD UNLOADED MORE THAN A HUNDRED TONNES OF FOOD. VEHICLES IN THE CONVOY WERE HIT DIRECTLY, DESPITE THE 'WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN' LOGO CLEARLY DISPLAYED, AND THE ORGANISATION'S PRIOR COORDINATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY. THE IDF SAYS IT WILL LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT. WE'VE BEEN REVIEWING THE INCIDENT IN THE HIGHEST LEVELS TO UNDERSTAND THE CIRCUMSTANCES OF WHAT HAPPENED AND HOW IT HAPPENED. WE WILL BE OPENING A PROBE TO EXAMINE THE SERIOUS INCIDENT FURTHER. THIS WILL HELP US REDUCE THE RISK OF SUCH AN EVENT FROM OCCURRING AGAIN. WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN HAS NOW PAUSED ITS OPERATIONS IN GAZA, WHERE FAMINE IS LOOMING. A CHILD (12) HAS BEEN ARRESTED IN FINLAND, SUSPECTED OF A SCHOOL SHOOTING. THREE STUDENTS WERE SHOT, AND ONE OF THEM KILLED AT A SCHOOL NEAR THE COUNTRY'S CAPITAL, HELSINKI. POLICE SAY THE SUSPECT USED A HANDGUN BELONGING TO A CLOSE RELATIVE. HE INITIALLY FLED BUT WAS LATER DETAINED, AND ADMITTED TO CARRYING OUT THE SHOOTING. PASSENGERS ON A LATAM AIRLINES FLIGHT THAT EXPERIENCED A MID AIR DROP BETWEEN SYDNEY AND AUCKLAND HAVE BEEN OFFERED COMPENSATION. AT LEAST 50 PEOPLE WERE INJURED WHEN THE PLANE SUFFERED WHAT THE AIRLINE DESCRIBED AS A 'TECHNICAL EVENT'. A LAW FIRM REPRESENTING SOME OF THE PASSENGERS SAYS THEY'VE BEEN OFFERED BETWEEN $2500 AND MORE THAN $8000. BUT THE LAWYERS HAVE WARNED THEM NOT TO SIGN ANYTHING, SAYING THEY'RE LIKELY ENTITLED TO SIGNIFICANTLY MORE. TRAVELLERS HEADING OVERSEAS FROM AUCKLAND AIRPORT WILL BEGIN THEIR JOURNEY FROM A NEW STARTING POINT FROM TOMORROW. THE FIRST STAGE OF THE AIRPORT'S NEW $300m TRANSPORT HUB WILL OPEN AT 2am WEDNESDAY MORNING, INCLUDING A NEW DROP-OFF AND PICK UP ZONE FOR THE INTERNATIONAL TERMINAL. IT'S DESIGNED TO HANDLE 650 VEHICLES AN HOUR DURING PEAK PERIODS, WITH 300m OF COVERED KERBSIDE SPACE. TO SPORT, AND ONE OF THE GREATEST ALL BLACKS OF ALL TIME, SAM WHITELOCK, HAS SIGNALLED THE END OF HIS PLAYING CAREER. WITH A PROFESSIONAL CAREER SPANNING 16 YEARS, WHITELOCK MADE HIS DEBUT FOR CANTERBURY IN 2008 AND FIRST PLAYED FOR THE ALL BLACKS IN 2010. THE MOST CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME WITH 153 TESTS, HE CAPTAINED THE SIDE 18 TIMES AND WON TWO RUGBY WORLD CUPS IN 2011 AND 2015. WHITELOCK CREDITED THE SUPPORT OF HIS FAMILY FOR HIS ACHIEVEMENTS IN THE SPORT. THERE'S NO WAY I COULD'VE ACHIEVED THIS WITHOUT HER, AND IT'S HARD BECAUSE YOU CAN'T THANK EVERYONE, BUT OBVIOUSLY, HANNAH'S BEEN A MASSIVE PART. PARENTS, BROTHERS, COUSINS, UNCLES, AUNTIES, GRANDPARENTS, ETC. WHITELOCK IS CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR FRENCH CLUB PAU, AND WILL RETIRE AT THE END OF THE DOMESTIC SEASON IN FRANCE. JUST AN UPDATE FOR YOU, THE ALL WHITES CAPTAIN HAS SCORED 2-0/ LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` ITS GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND WITH A HIGH OF 23. FURTHER SOUTH, CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE, HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. TO THE EAST COAST, IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23. OVER TO THE WEST, PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH, IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU, THE SOUTH ISLAND ` BLUE SKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. 18 DEGREES FOR WESTPORT. HEADING SOUTH, YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY. CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. TO THE DEEP SOUTH, SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. DUNEDIN WITH A HIGH OF 21. AUCKLANDERS, COULD YOU BE COAXED OFF THE MOTORWAY DURING PEAK TRAFFIC TIME BY THE THREAT OF A CHARGE JUST FOR BEING THERE? CONGESTION CHARGES ARE SPARKING DEBATE IN THE CITY AFTER THE GOVERNMENT CONFIRMED THAT IT WILL AXE THE AUCKLAND REGIONAL FUEL TAX BY THE END OF JUNE. A MOVE MAYOR WAYNE BROWN WASN'T TOO STOKED ABOUT. HE JOINS ME THIS MORNING. PUBLIC FEEDBACK ON CONGESTION CHARGES. WHAT WAS THAT? THE CONSULTATION IS STILL OUT THERE, SO WE'VE NOT GONE THROUGH ALL OF THE FEEDBACK YET. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS USE CHARGE RATHER THAN CONGESTION CHARGES. ARE CONGESTION CHARGES WHEN YOU PUT A RING AROUND THE CITY WHEN YOU HAVE TO PAY TO GO INTO IT. WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS, IF YOU NOTICE, THE ROADS ARE NOT CONGESTED DURING HOLIDAYS BECAUSE NOBODY IS AROUND THEM. WOULD TAKE A LOT LESS PEOPLE TO FREE THEM UP. IF YOU HAVE A TIME OF USE CHARGE AND YOU'RE ON A MOTORWAY OR ONE OF OUR CONGESTED MAIN ROADS DURING THE PEAK, YOU ONLY HAVE TO TAKE 10 TO 15% OFF AND IT FLOWS FREELY. WE'RE GOING TO BE CHARGING PEOPLE TO BE THERE AT THOSE PARTICULAR TIMES. ARE YOU ABLE TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT THAT IS AND WHAT THAT WILL LOOK LIKE? I GO BACK TO BASICS I GO BACK TO BASICS AND SAY WHAT IS THE PROBLEM WE ARE TRYING TO FIX? IN AUCKLAND, WHERE PLENTY OF ROADS THAT ARE EMPTY IN THE NIGHT AND RUN FREELY MOST OF THE DAY, BUT FROM THE PAST 7 TO 9 O'CLOCK, THE MOTORWAY COMING IN FROM PENROSE TO GREEN LANE STOPS DEAD. IN WEST AUCKLAND, BETWEEN TE ATATU ROAD AND LINCOLN ROAD IN THE AFTERNOON, IT STOPS DEAD. PEOPLE HARDLY MOVE BECAUSE OF MONEY AND FEAR, BEING KIND DOES NOT WORK. WE ALREADY USING IT IN A WAY BECAUSE WE ARE CHARGING THE TRUCKS MORE TO GO TO THE WHARF AND GET THE STUFF DURING THE DAY THAN NIGHT BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO GET RID OF THEM ON THE ROAD DURING THE DAY. YOU SEE THEM AT NIGHT AS A RESULT OF PRICING. THERE ARE ALTERNATIVES, TO EITHER COME IN AT A DIFFERENT TIME OR PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THE CAR. IN AUCKLAND, WE HAVE 1.05 PEOPLE PER CAR. IF YOU GO TO 1.2 PEOPLE PER CAR, WE WOULD NOT HAVE CONGESTION. IT IS A HELL OF A LOT CHEAPER, QUICKER, FASTER. POTENTIALLY, WE WOULD THIS TIME OF USE CHARGES APPLY? WHERE THERE IS A PROBLEM. WHEN EITHER THERE IS A PROBLEM ON THE MOTORWAY. IF YOU ARE ON LAKE ROAD, THAT JAMBS UP MOST OF THE TIME. IF YOU'RE ON THE MOTORWAY, THOSE TWO PARTICULAR AREAS JAM UP AT THE TIME. IF IT IS MOVING OKAY, IT IS OK. IT DOES NOT TAKE A LOT TO TAKE THE EDGE OFF IT. JUST LOOK AT THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS, IT IS NOT NEARLY AS BAD TO GET AROUND AUCKLAND IN THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS. YOU TALK ABOUT THE TIME OF USE CHARGES, AND THERE IS OBVIOUSLY CONGESTION, WHICH IS DIFFERENT, BUT THERE ARE MODELS AROUND THE WORLD WAS USED CONGESTION CHARGES AND ARE WORKING WELL. TIME OF USE, IS A MODEL ANYWHERE THAT IS USED? CONGESTION CHARGING IS A WORD THAT IS USED WITHOUT DISCRIMINATION BETWEEN THOSE TWO. WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS A TIME OF USE CHARGE, WHICH IS WHAT IS CALLED THE CONGESTION CHARGE IN OTHER PLACES. IT IS VERY WELL-KNOWN AND NOT A SURPRISING NEW THING. YOU ARE RECURRENT IN PEOPLE TO CHANGE THE DAY ABOUT OR DO SOMETHING DIFFERENTLY, OR BETTER STILL, GET ON A BUS. THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. GET ON A BUS. IF THE BUSES WILL TAKE MORE PEOPLE. THERE LIES THE PROBLEM OF PUBLIC TRANSPORT. THE MAIN PROBLEM IS PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO DO IT? I RENDER HAVING A CONVERSATION HERE ON THIS PROGRAM, AND THE FEEDBACK THEY CAME IN FROM PEOPLE WHEN THEY TRY AND USE A BUS. THE OTHER THING THAT I AM REALLY KEEN ON DOING IS HAVING DYNAMIC LANES, SO USE MORE IN THE MORNING AND LESS ON THE NIGHT. WE ARE READY HAVE THAT AN USE IN WHANGAPARAOA. PEOPLE MANAGE IT WITHOUT ANY GREAT PROBLEM. WHEN THEY FIRST WANTED TO PUT THAT IN, PEOPLE SAID, WHAT A TERRIBLE IDEA, WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. NOW COURSE, IF YOU TOOK IT AWAY THEY WOULD BE UPSET BECAUSE IT WORKS WELL. SOMETIMES YOU HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON IT WORKING. I KNOW YOU SAID THAT THE CONSULTATION PERIOD ARE STILL OPEN, BUT IN TERMS OF ANECDOTAL FEEDBACK? WE WERE OFFERING IF PEOPLE WANTED TO PAY MORE AND GET MORE RATHER THAN PLAY IN THE MIDDLE AND GET MIDDLE THINGS OR PAY LESS AND GET LESS SERVICES. AT THE MOMENT IT IS RUNNING IN FAVOUR OF PAYING LESS AND GETTING LESS. THE PAY MORE AND DO MORE THING IS NOT SO POPULAR. BECAUSE THAT MEANS ADDING TO RATES. I HAVE COUNSELLORS, SOME OF THE LEFT-WING COUNSELLORS QUITE LIKE THE IDEA OF EXTRACTING MORE FROM EVERYBODY TO PROVIDE MORE IDEAS, BUT I FIGURED THAT WAS NOT GOING TO BE ALL THAT POPULAR. IT DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE. WE WILL HAVE A COMPROMISE TO PAY A BIT LESS AND DO A BIT LESS BECAUSE AS SOON AS YOU SAY, WE WILL DO LESS, WHAT IS IT WILL BE DOING LESS? IT IS NOT EASY. NO. 1.8 MILLION DIFFERENT OPINIONS OUT THERE. PAY MORE, GET MORE. THE OTHER OPTION WAS PAY LESS, GET LESS. WHAT ABOUT CENTRAL? THAT IS THE ONE THAT WE HAVE CHOSEN IN THE MIDDLE. IT IS PROBABLY THE SENSIBLE COMPROMISE. THAT IS NEARLY AS POPULAR AS PAYLESS, GET LESS, BUT THE PAY MORE, GET MORE IS NOT POPULAR WHICH IS NOT, IS A GREAT SURPRISE TO ME. WHAT IS THE PROCESS FROM NOW? HOW LONG IT IS GOING TO TAKE? IF YOU HAD TO GO THROUGH ALL THE SUBMISSIONS AND FEEDBACK? I HAVE 20 COUNSELLORS HAVE 20 DIFFERENT OPINIONS, AND I HAVE TO TRY AND COAX THEM ALL INTO COMING TO A DECISION. IT IS QUITE COMPLICATED, AND THAT IS THE SORT OF STUFF THAT CENTRAL GOVERNMENT INFLICT ON LOCAL GOVERNMENT. WE GOING TO HAVE A BUDGET COMING OUT. I CAN'T DO THAT, I HAD TO CONSULT WITH EVERYONE. YOU WOULD NOT SAY IT IS AN IDEAL WAY OF GOING ABOUT THINGS, BUT IT IS WHAT IT IS ENOUGH TO PROVIDE LEADERSHIP TO GET THERE. THERE IS AN ELEMENT OF COMPROMISE WHERE PEOPLE SAY, YOU MANAGE TO DO WHAT YOU SAID. THERE ARE 20 OF US. WE CAN PLAY QUITE A LOT OF SPORTS BETWEEN EACH OTHER, AND THEY DO. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING WITH US THIS MORNING. TRYING TO FIND SOME CLARITY AROUND THE ISSUE IS A CITY IS FACING. WAYNE BROWN JOINING US THIS MORNING. THANK YOU. ME U TONU MAI, NO POINTS OFF FOR A VISIBLE BRA STRAP AND WEAR SHORTS IF YOU LIKE. THE NEW RULES THAT HAVE BEEN A LONG TIME COMING FOR NEW ZEALAND'S GYMNASTS. WELCOME BACK TO BREAKFAST. VISIBLE BRA STRAPS? NO PROBLEM. SHORTS OVER LEOTARDS? WHY NOT? AFTER YEARS OF REGULATIONS DESCRFIBED AS 'ARCHAIC' BIG CHANGES ARE ON THE WAY FOR COMPETITIVE GYMNASTICS IN NEW ZEALAND AND PENALTIES FOR BREAKING THOSE OLD-SCHOOL RULES ARE GONE. ABOUT TIME TOO, AS THE CHANGES COME OFF THE BACK OF A NEW REPORT FROM MASSEY UNIVERSITY ON HOW UNFORMS AFFECT THE CONFIDENCE OF FEMALE ATHLETES. RESEARCHER RACHEL BATTY JOINS US NOW. GOOD MORNING, RACHEL. YOU JUST PUBLISH THE RESEARCH, AND IN GYMNASTICS NEW ZEALAND COMES TO YOU AND SAYS THEY'RE CHANGING THE RULES. YOU MUST HAVE BEEN QUITE SURPRISED. THE TIMING WAS BRILLIANT IN THAT RESPECT. BACK WHEN WE DID THE RESEARCH, GYMNASTICS ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THEY WERE THE PROCESS OF MAKING CHANGES AND WE SENT OUT THAT REPORT INITIALLY TO ALL OF THE NATIONAL SPORTS ORGANISATIONS THAT WERE INVOLVED, AND THEN GYMNASTICS IMMEDIATELY REPLIED. IN THAT RESPECT, THE TIMING WAS BRILLIANCE. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE RESPONSE WAS FROM OTHER ORGANISATIONS AND A MOMENT. TALK US THROUGH THE RESEARCH. THE STUDY WAS ACKNOWLEDGING THE DESIGN OF FEMALE SPORTS UNIFORMS, WHETHER IT BE THAT CUTS, COLOUR, TIGHTNESS, HOW SHORT THE SKIRT MIGHT BE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS THAT ARE BEEN WELL RESEARCHED IN TERMS OF THE CONFIDENCE AND ANXIETY THAT IS ASSOCIATED WITH FEMALE PARTICIPANTS AND SPORT AND PHYSICAL ACTIVITY. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LATE 2022 WHEN WIMBLEDON ANNOUNCED THAT THEY WERE CHANGING THE RULES IN AND AROUND THE WHITE UNIFORMS FOR TENNIS ATHLETES. THEN WE NOTICED AND DECEMBER THAT NETBALL AUSTRALIA WAS MAKING SIGNIFICANT CHANGES TO THEIR FEMALE UNIFORM, AND THEN AT THE START OF 2023 THERE WAS A NEWS ARTICLE THAT CAME OUT THAT WAS PREDICTING THE FOOTBALL FERNS WILL BE CHANGING THE COLOUR OF THEIR SHORTS FROM WHITE TO TEAL BLACK, AND WE THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE A REALLY GOOD TIME TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE NEW ZEALAND SETS AND HOW A LOT OF OUR ORGANISATIONS ARE APPROACHING FEMALE UNIFORMS WHEN IT COMES TO SPORT. SOME OF THE RESPONSES, I WAS STAGGERED BY THIS, JUST 5% OF SPORTS BODIES ACKNOWLEDGED OR THOUGHT THAT THE UNIFORMS COULD IMPACT OUR PLAYERS MENTAL WELL-BEING. IT IS 2024! FOR US, THERE WERE A LOT OF POSITIVES THAT CAME OUT IN TERMS OF SPORT ORGANISATIONS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THEY WERE IN THE PROCESS OF MAKING CHANGES OR THEY HAD MADE CHANGES, BUT WHEN YOU DELVE A LITTLE BIT DEEPER IN TERMS OF THE REASONS BEHIND THOSE CHANGES, AS YOU MENTIONED, ONE OF THOSE UNDERLYING FOCUSES WAS ACKNOWLEDGING THAT A LOT DID NOT LINK THE ANXIETY AND THE CONFIDENCE WITH HOW SPORT UNIFORMS WERE DESIGNED. SORRY TO INTERRUPT. ONLY DOING IT BECAUSE WOMEN HAVE SAID, PLEASE CHANGE THE UNIFORM? NOT BECAUSE THEY NECESSARILY UNDERSTAND WHY THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT OR UNDERSTAND THE WIDER IMPLICATIONS. BECAUSE THERE WERE SO MANY CONSIDERATIONS WHEN IT COMES TO EACH SPORT, WE CANNOT LUMP THEM TOGETHER. SOMEWHERE IN RELATION TO FEEDBACK FROM ATHLETES. THERE WERE A LOT OF SPORTS OUT THERE WHERE THEY WERE CONSULTING THE ATHLETES. GYMNASTICS IS ONE OF THEM, AND APPRECIATING AND TAKING IT ON BOARD WHEN THEY ARE LOOKING AT THE RULES AND REDESIGNING UNIFORMS, WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. THERE ALSO SOME SPORTS THAT DO NOT LOOK AT IT FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE. WE ARE HOPING THAT THIS RESEARCH CREATE A DOMINO EFFECT IN TERMS OF, THIS IS A REAL THING, AND NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED, AND YOU NEED TO TALK TO YOUR ATHLETES. I DO NOT WANT YOU TO NAME AND SHAME, BUT I DO ANY SPORTS IN PARTICULAR OR ANY TYPES OF SPORT WHERE THIS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED MORE? I THINK THERE ARE CERTAIN SPORTS WHERE THERE SHOULD BE RESTRICTIONS. ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE BEACH VOLLEYBALL TYPE? WHETHER THAT IS THAT OR TIGHT UNIFORMS. A LOT OF IT COMES DOWN TO HEALTH AND SAFETY. YOU DO NOT WANT BAGGY UNIFORMS TO GET STUCK IN THE BOAT. YOU HAVE AERODYNAMICS WHEN IT COMES TO SKIING. THERE ARE A LOT OF COMPLEX CONSIDERATIONS THAT GO INTO THIS, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF SPORTS ARE GOING DOWN THAT LIST AND TAKING A LOT OF AND ARE NEEDING TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THE CONSIDERATIONS OF THE ATHLETES AND HOW THEY FEEL AND THE UNIFORMS, BECAUSE ANXIETY AND CONFIDENCE RELATE TO HOW THE ATHLETES PERFORM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. REALLY APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. THE GOOD THING IS IT IF YOU ARE HAVING THESE CONVERSATIONS, THAT YOU COME DOWN TO A CHOICE ABOUT WHAT THE ATHLETES WANT TO WEAR. IF YOU WANT TO DRIVE OR COACH AND OLYMPIC SWIMMER, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO LET THEM JUMP IN THE POOL WITH A TENT. ON THE FLIPSIDE OF THAT, IF YOU LOOK AT SOMETHING LIKE BEACH VOLLEYBALL, GUYS GET TO PLAY WITHOUT A SHIRT AND THEY WEAR SHORTS, WHEREAS WOMEN PLAY IN THOSE TWO PIECE SKIMPIES. SOME LOVE PLAYING IN THOSE AND THEY ARE FINE WITH IT, BUT THERE SHOULD BE A CHOICE. IF YOU DO NOT WANT TO WEAR THOSE SKIMPY THINGS, THEN YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO WEAR SHORTS. I THINK IT IS ABOUT SPORTS ORGANISATIONS BECOMING AWARE OF THAT. IF IT IS NOT ABOUT SAFETY AND MORE ABOUT THE STATICS. IF NOBODY IS KIND OF TALKED ABOUT IT OR BROUGHT IT TO THEIR ATTENTION, THEN WHY WOULD YOU THINK ABOUT IT? IF NOBODY IN YOUR SPORT IS TALKING ABOUT IT. IF SOMEBODY NEW SPORT IS TALKING ABOUT IT, THEN YOU HAVE TO GO, OK. I WANTED THE PEOPLE GOING, I CAN'T HEAR ANYTHING. THE SPORTS KIT STARTS EARLY ON. AT MY GIRLS SCHOOL, THEY'RE ONLY RECENTLY CHANGED TO POLOS AND SHORTS. THAT SORT OF THING STARTS EARLY. YOUR GENES AT KIDS AND SAID, YOU WEAR THIS UNIFORM FOR AT SCHOOL OR RUNNING AROUND IN THE PLAYGROUND. IT IS HARDER TO DO THAT THING WHEN YOU'RE IN A TUNIC. STARTS EARLIER ON, BEING ABLE TO HAVE THAT CHOICE AT SCHOOLS TO WEAR POLOS AND SHORTS BECAUSE IT IS EASIER TO DO SPORTS WHEN YOU ARE WEARING THAT SORT OF THING. LUNCHTIMES, RUNNING AROUND. INTERESTING CONVERSATION. A MURI I NGA WHAKATAIRANGA, YOUR 8.30 NEWS, SPORT AND WEATHER. PLUS, THROW OUT THE TRADITIONAL STYLE OF JOB ADVERTISING. ONE COMPANY IS DOING THINGS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY. MORE ON THAT COMING UP. # HEY, PLAYING WITH MY DELIRIUM. # THE BAY OF ISLANDS - ONE OF NEW ZEALAND'S FAVOURITE HOLIDAY DESTINATIONS. AND THIS WEEK, THANKS TO NORTHLAND INC, WE'RE GIVING AWAY RETURN FLIGHTS FOR TWO, A RENTAL CAR, TWO NIGHTS, ACCOMMODATION, A WAITANGI TREATY GROUNDS TOUR, AND A FULLER GREAT SIGHTS EXPERIENCE TO THE ICONIC HOLE IN THE ROCK. TO ENTER, JUST HEAD TO winwithbreakfast.co.nz. WE'LL BE ANNOUNCING THE WINNER LIVE ON THE SHOW THIS FRIDAY. THIS SEGMENT BROUGHT TO YOU BY NORTHLAND INC. I HAVE NEVER BEEN TO THE HOLE IN THE ROCK. IF YOU'RE ABOUT TO SET OFF FOR WORK, THAT COULD BECOME MORE EXPENSIVE WITH 'TIME OF USE CHARGES' BEING CONSIDERED IN AUCKLAND. DRIVING DURING PEAK TIME ON AUCKLAND'S BUSY ROADS COULD SEE USERS CHARGED EXTRA. MAYOR WAYNE BROWN SAYS THE PLAN WILL ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO THINK OF OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO REDUCE CONGESTION. YOU EITHER COME AT A DIFFERENT TIME OR PERHAPS YOU PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THE CAR. IN AUCKLAND, 1.05 PEOPLE PER CAR- IF YOU GOT UP TO 1.2 PEOPLE PER CAR, WE COULD HAVE ANY CONGESTION. SO, UM, IT DOESN'T TAKE A LOT OF ENCOURAGEMENT BUT IT'S A HELL OF A LOT QUICKER, CHEAPER, FASTER, THAN BUILDING ANOTHER MOTORWAY. MAYOR BROWN SAYS PUBLIC CONSULTATION ON CONGESTION CHARGES IS STILL OPEN. THERE ARE CALLS FOR CHANGE AFTER A MASSIVE GENDER GAP IN KIWISAVER CONTRIBUTIONS WAS HIGHLIGHTED. THE RETIREMENT COMMISSION'S REVEALED A 36% GAP BETWEEN THE AMOUNT MEN AND WOMEN ARE PUTTING INTO THEIR KIWISAVER EACH YEAR. THE RESEARCH INDICATES THE GAP IS CAUSED BY THE GENDER PAY GAP, NOT A DIFFERENCE IN CONTRIBUTION RATES. HIS BALANCE HAS OVERTAKEN MINE, SO THAT TEN-YEAR HEAD-START I HAD HAS REALLY BEEN ECLIPSED BY THE THREE CHILDREN AND THE CAREER CONSEQUENCES OF HAVING THOSE CHILDREN. THE AVERAGE EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION FOR MEN WERE APPROXIMATELY 39% HIGHER THAN FOR WOMEN. FOREIGN MINISTER WINSTON PETERS IS IN EUROPE THIS WEEK FOR THE NATO FOREIGN MINISTERS SUMMIT. HIS TRAVEL SO FAR HAS SEEN A BRIEF STOP IN CAIRO BEFORE HEADING TO WARSAW YESTERDAY. OUR EUROPE CORRESPONDENT MEI HERON SENT THIS REPORT FROM BRUSSELS. DOZENS OF WORLD LEADERS ARE PREPARING TO MEET HERE AT NATO HQ IN BRUSSELS, INCLUDING OUR VERY OWN WINSTON PETERS. IT'S 75 YEARS SINCE THE NATO ALLIANCE WAS FORMED, SO IT'S A PRETTY SYMBOLIC TIME. IT'S ALSO AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR WINSTON PETERS TO BE HERE TOO, AS NATO FOCUSES MORE ON THE HAPPENINGS IN THE INDO-PACIFIC REGION, PARTICULARLY CHINA AND CHINA'S RISE AND CHINA'S INFLUENCE. NATO HAS RECENTLY TALKED ABOUT CHINA BEING A THREAT TO ITS SECURITY TOO, WHICH IS WHY IT'S TRYING TO UP ITS RELATIONSHIP WITH COUNTRIES LIKE NEW ZEALAND. OVER THE NEXT TWO DAYS, WE CAN EXPECT LOTS OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND PARTICULARLY CYBERSECURITY. THAT'S POIGNANT GIVEN RECENT NEWS THAT CHINA TRIED TO HACK NEW ZEALAND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. BUT, GIVEN THE GLOBAL INSECURITIES AT THE MOMENT WITH THINGS LIKE THE UKRAINE WAR, IT'S AN IMPORTANT TIME FOR NEW ZEALAND TO HAVE A FRONT-ROW SEAT TO THE INNER WORKINGS OF THE WORLD'S BIGGEST MILITARY ALLIANCE. ISRAEL HAS ADMITTED ITS AIR STRIKE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR KILLING SEVEN AID WORKERS IN GAZA. THE CHARITY WORKERS WERE ATTACKED AFTER LEAVING A WAREHOUSE IN CENTRAL GAZA WHERE THEY HAD UNLOADED MORE THAN A HUNDRED TONNES OF FOOD. VEHICLES IN THE CONVOY WERE HIT DIRECTLY, DESPITE THE 'WORLD CENTRAL KITCHEN' LOGO CLEARLY DISPLAYED, AND THE ORGANISATION'S PRIOR COORDINATION WITH THE ISRAELI MILITARY. THE IDF SAYS IT WILL LAUNCH AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE INCIDENT. IRAN HAS VOWED REVENGE ON ISRAEL FOR AN AIR STRIKE THAT KILLED SEVEN MILITARY PERSONNEL IN SYRIA. THE ATTACK DESTROYED AN IRANIAN CONSULAR NEXT TO THE MAIN EMBASSY BUILDING IN SYRIA'S CAPITAL DAMASCUS. THERE'S CONCERNS THIS WILL ESCALATE THE CONFLICT, WHICH HAS RIPPLED ACROSS THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE THE WAR IN GAZA STARTED. ISRAEL HASN'T TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE STRIKE. AT LEAST 29 PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED IN A FIRE IN A NIGHTCLUB IN TURKEY. THE MASQUERADE CLUB, IN THE BASEMENT OF A HIGH-RISE BUILDING IN ISTANBUL, WAS CLOSED FOR RENOVATIONS. THE VICTIMS ARE THOUGHT TO HAVE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THE CONSTRUCTION WORK. SEVERAL PEOPLE, INCLUDING THE NIGHTCLUB MANAGER, HAVE BEEN ARRESTED IN CONNECTION WITH THE FIRE AS INVESTIGATIONS CONTINUE. TO SPORT AND THE MOST CAPPED ALL BLACK OF ALL TIME SAM WHITELOCK IS RETIRING FROM RUGBY. WHITELOCK'S BEGAN HIS PROFESSIONAL CAREER WITH CANTERBURY BACK IN 2008 AND DEBUTED FOR THE ALL BLACKS IN 2010. HE PLAYED THE LAST OF HIS 153 TESTS IN THE BLACK JERSEY AT LAST YEAR'S RUGBY WORLD CUP IN THE FINAL AGAINST THE SPRINGBOKS. THE LOCK WON TWO WORLD CUPS IN 2011 AND 2015 AND ALSO CAPTAINED THE SIDE IN 18 TESTS. WHITELOCK WILL OFFICIALLY HANG UP THE BOOTS AT THE END OF THE FRENCH CLUB SEASON WHERE HE'S CURRENTLY PLAYING FOR PAU. ALL WHITES CAPTAIN CHRIS WOOD HAS SCORED A CRUCIAL GOAL IN NOTTINGHAM FOREST'S BATTLE FOR PREMIER LEAGUE SURVIVAL THIS MORNING. THE IN-FORM STRIKER MAKING IT 2-0 AGAINST FULHAM. WOOD. 2-0 AND TOO EASY. (CROWD CHEERING) SO MUCH TIME, SO MUCH ROOM, AND CHRIS WOOD DOUBLES FOREST'S LEAD. A WIN WOULD BUMP THE REDS OUT OF THE RELEGATION ZONE INTO 17TH ON THE TABLE. THEY HAVE JUST SCORED AGAIN BEFORE HALFTIME. LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT YOUR WEATHER THIS MORNING. TO THE TOP OF THE COUNTRY ` ITS GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE START TO YOUR DAY. CLOUDY PERIODS FROM THE AFTERNOON THOUGH. SOME ISOLATED SHOWERS IN AUCKLAND WITH A HIGH OF 23. FURTHER SOUTH, CLOUDY DAY FOR MOST OF YOU HERE WITH SOME DRIZZLE, HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN TO FINE IN THE AFTERNOON IN HAMILTON AND TOKOROA. TAURANGA WITH A HIGH OF 22. TO THE EAST COAST., IT'S GOING TO BE A MAINLY FINE DAY APART FROM SOME MORNING CLOUD. NORTHEASTERLIES DEVELOPING THIS AFTERNOON IN NAPIER AND HASTINGS. GISBORNE WITH A HIGH OF 23. OVER TO THE WEST, PERIODS OF SUNSHINE TODAY AT THE TOP OF THE REGION. FURTHER SOUTH, IT'LL BE A BIT MORE CLOUDY. STRONG NORTHERLIES IN WELLINGTON WITH A HIGH OF 18. TO TE WAIPOUNAMU, THE SOUTH ISLAND ` BLUE SKIES AND SUNSHINE IN KAIKOURA. ELSEWHERE, IT'LL BE PRETTY GREY WITH SOME RAIN THIS EVENING IN GREYMOUTH AND HOKITIKA. BLENHEIM, YOU'LL BE REACHING A HIGH OF 22. HEADING SOUTH, YOU'LL BE OPENING UP THE BLINDS TO SOME CLOUD TODAY. CLEARING TO FINE THIS AFTERNOON IN CHRISTCHURCH AND ASHBURTON. TIMARU, YOU'RE REACHING A HIGH OF 21. TO THE DEEP SOUTH, SUNNY START FOR MOST OF YOU HERE. HOWEVER, THIS WILL TURN CLOUDY HEADING INTO YOUR AFTERNOON WITH SOME RAIN IN MILFORD SOUND. DUNEDIN WITH A HIGH OF 21. FINDING A NEW JOB RIGHT NOW CAN BE HARD WORK IN ITSELF BUT WHAT ABOUT FINDING THE RIGHT JOB? JOB ADS TEND TO LOOK MORE AT THE SKILLS CANDIDATES BRING BUT SHOULD WE BE LOOKING AT OTHER THINGS TO MAKE SURE WORKERS AND BOSSES ARE PROPERLY MATCHED UP? A NEW RECRUITMENT PLATFORM IS WORKING ON THAT VERY PREMISE. FOUNDER OF FUTUREFUL IZZY FENWICK JOINS US NOW. TALK TO ME ABOUT THE ISSUES WITH JOB ADS AT THE MOMENT. THE JOB AD IS NOT MEETING THE CURRENT NEED OF THE WORKFORCE FOR THE NEEDS OF THE ORGANISATION. WE ARE SEEING A BIG CHANGE IN HOW PEOPLE THINK ABOUT WORK AND WHILE SOME OF THAT WE CONTRIBUTE TO COVID THERE ARE SOME UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT ARE CHANGING PEOPLE'S NEEDS. IF WE LOOK AT THE BIGGEST PERCENTAGE OF THE WORKFORCE NOW BEING MILLENNIAL IS THERE IS A LOT OF RESEARCH BY MILLENNIAL'S ACTUALLY WANTING MORE MEANINGFUL WORK AND WORK THAT ALIGNS WITH OUR VALUES. THE JOB AD IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE JOB AND THE SKILLS BUT FOR A MILLENNIAL WORKFORCE WHO THEY WORK FOR IS ALMOST AS IMPORTANT AS WHAT THEY DO. REMIND ME WHAT MILLENNIAL IS. IT DEPENDS ON WHICH OF THE RESEARCH YOU LOOK AT, BUT IS BASICALLY ANYBODY AGED 28-43. THEY MAKE UP THE MAJORITY OF THE WORKFORCE GLOBALLY. THE EARLY INFLUENCES IN THE TIME THAT THEY WERE RAISED DOES IMPACT HOW THEY LOOK AT THE WORLD. THERE ARE RAISED AT TIME OF TECHNOLOGICAL DEVELOPMENT AND THE RISE OF SOCIAL MEDIA, WHICH MAKES THEM EMPATHETIC. WHEN WE ADVERTISE FOR JOBS, WE ARE LOOKING AT THE SKILLS AND ATTRIBUTES OF THE JOB ITSELF AND WE NEED A PERSON TO DO. WE NEED THEM TO BE CAPABLE OF ACTUALLY WHAT YOU ARE NAYSAYING IS THAT IT SHOULD BE FLIPPED OR SHOULD BE PUT IN ABOUT THE WORKPLACE ITSELF, WHAT THEIR NEEDS ARE BUT ALSO WHAT WE STAND FOR. ALL OF THAT CONTRIBUTES TO THE COMPATIBILITY OF A RELATIONSHIP. THE JOB AD IS LOOKING AT THE CAPABILITY OF HOW YOU DO THAT JOB. BUT IT SHOULD LOOK MORE AT THE GENERAL WELL-BEING AND PRODUCTIVITY OF THAT JOB. TELL ME ABOUT THE APP. WE ARE FLIPPING THE RECRUITMENT MODEL ON IT'S HEAD. WE MUCH ORGANISATIONS AND TALENT BASED ON THEIR NEEDS, VALUE AS WELL AS THAT SKILLS. THEY SHOW WHAT THEIR NEEDS AND EXPECTATIONS ARE. SOME OF THOSE FEED INTO THE EMPLOYEE BENEFIT SPACE SOME INTO THE WORKPLACE EXPERIENCE AND THEN SOME INTO MORE MODERN REQUESTS THAT WE SEE FROM THE WORKFORCE AROUND THE ENVIRONMENTAL AND SOCIAL COMMITMENTS AS AN ORGANISATION AND HOW WE ARE MATCHING BASED ON THAT BIG HOLISTIC PICTURE. WE PROVIDE A MATCH BASED ON YOUR COMPATIBILITY AS WELL AS THE SKILLS TO DO THE JOB. SO IT IS BOTH RATHER THAN INSTEAD OF. EMPLOYERS KNOW THE TYPE OF PEOPLE THAT THEY HIRE NICK A REALLY BIG DIFFERENCE. YOU COULD HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE AT THE SAME SKILL BUT THE CHARACTERISTICS AND COMPATIBILITY MAKES THE BIGGEST IMPACT TO THE POSITIVITY OF THE TEAM ARRANGE THEM THAT PRODUCTIVITY. BUT THE MAIN METHOD THAT WE USE IS STILL THE JOB AD WHICH PULLS THEM BACK TO BEING FOCUSED ON THE JOB AND THE ROLE. RATHER THAN JUST FILLING A GAP IN THE CHART. ORGANISATIONS KNOW THEY NEED GOOD FATS AND GOOD COMPATIBLE PEOPLE. THEY MIGHT BE ABLE TO DO THE JOB BUT THERE MIGHT BE A DICKHEAD. THANK YOU. E WHAI AKE NEI, THE COUNTDOWN TO THE ANZ NETBALL PREMIERSHIP IS ON. TE KARERE'S KRUZE TANGIRA HAS HEADED OUT TO SEE IF HE CAN MAKE THE LAST MINUTE TRYOUTS. MORENA, KRUZE. I THINK I HAVE MISSED THE TRYOUTS, BUT ONLY WITH A SHOOTING SUPERSTAR AFTER THE BREAK. THE ANZ PREMIERSHIP IS JUST 10 DAYS AWAY FROM KICKING OFF AND LAST YEARS BEATEN FINALISTS, THE NORTHERN STARS ARE HOPING TO GO ONE BETTER. TE KARERE REPORTER KRUZE TANGIRA IS OUT AT BRUCE PULMAN ARENA WITH THE TEAM'S NEWEST SHOOTER RAHNI SAMASON. MORENA, KRUZE. GOOD MORNING CHRIS. I AM HERE WITH SHOOTING SUPERSTAR, RAHNI. TWO DAYS LEFT UNTIL THE PREMIERSHIP STARTS, HOW ARE YOU FEELING? WE ARE THE NEW KIDS ON THE BLOCK BUT WE ARE READY TO SHOW PEOPLE THAT WERE MADE OF. YOUR COMING BACK FROM A LEG INJURY. WITH MANAGE THINGS REALLY WELL. I WANT TO BE AVAILABLE AND PLAY EVERY GAME OF THE SEASON. I WANT TO PUT MY BEST FOOT FORWARD, SHOW MY KIWI AND AUSSIE FLAT. *FLAIR YOU GUYS WERE FINALISTS LAST SEASON, HOW DO YOU GO ONE STEP FURTHER THIS SEASON? WE HAVE A NEW PERSONNEL, WHICH MEANS IT WILL BE HARD FOR TEAMS TO SCOPE US. WE ARE TRYING TO TURN THAT SILVER INTO A GOLD AND WE HAVE THE INTENSITY WITH EXPERIENCED PLAYERS. YOU CAN HEAR SHE HAS AN AUSSIE TWANG TO HER SPEAKING VOICE, WHAT CHANGES OR DIFFERENCES ARE YOU NOTICING BETWEEN THE AUSTRALIAN STYLE OF PLAY IN THE NEW ZEALAND STYLE OF PLAY? THE NEW ZEALAND STYLE OF PLAY AS A TEAM BASED. THE KIWIS HAVE A LOT OF STYLE, TOUCH ON THE BALL AND SO MUCH FINESSE WHICH IS SOMETHING I WANT TO BRING INTO MY GAME. THE AUSSIES ARE OBVIOUSLY VERY DOGEARED, DEFENSIVELY THE VERY GOOD ONE-ON-ONE. I WANT TO SPARK MY TEAM. LUCKILY FOR US, YOU ARRIVE NEW ZEALAND DESCENT SO IS A DREAM TO PLAY FOR THE SILVER PHONES EVENTUALLY? I WANT TO GO AS FAR AS I POSSIBLY CAN. THE BLACK DRESS WAS ALWAYS VERY APPEALING WHEN I WAS YOUNGER BUT I JUST WANT THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO OVER AND GIVE IT MY BEST SHOT. FIRST TIME IN THE ANZ PREMIERSHIP, WHAT ARE YOU EXPECTING FOR THE FIRST GAME? THE PULSE ALREADY SOUGHT AFTER CONTENDERS. I'M EXPECTING A REALLY HARD GAME. OBVIOUSLY I WANT TO GET OUT THERE AND SHOW THEM WHAT I CAN DO. SPEAKING OF, AS I SAID BEFORE YOU ARE A SHOOTER. CAN YOU GIVE US A TIP ON HOW TO SHOOT? FOR ACCURACY WHICH IS WHAT I LIKE TO GO FOR ALL THE TIME, FOR ME THE BALL FOLLOWS YOUR ELBOW. SO IF YOUR ELBOW WAS FACING THE POST, IT WILL ALWAYS AT LEAST GO STRAIGHT. BALL FOLLOWS ELBOW, FINISHED NICE AND STRAIGHT. TO IT REALLY SLOWLY FOR THOSE AT HOME WHO ARE FOLLOWING. HERE WE GO. OH! FIRST TIME. SHE WILL BE ON THE COURT NEXT SUNDAY. TRY AGAIN. OH NO! BRILLIANT JOB. WE WERE GOING TO GET YOU TO RUN AROUND MORE, BUT WE WILL LET YOU OFF AFTER THE SHOT. SO GOOD. I LOVE HOW SHE WASN'T OUT OF BREATH THE ENTIRE INTERVIEW. POP DON'T WANT OF THE TRAINING EARLIER IN THE YEAR AND THEY LOOK REALLY GOOD. E HAERE AKE NEI ` IT'S NO TRICK OR TREAT. NEW PLYMOUTH'S GIFT SHOP IS CLOSING DOWN. STORE OWNER SHIRLEY TELLS US WHY SHORTLY. A GOOD OL' LOCAL GIFT SHOP CAN REALLY GIVE YOU THE SENSE OF A PLACE, OFTEN WITH UNIQUE FINDS GALORE. BUT SADLY, NEW PLYMOUTH'S TRICK OR TREAT GIFT SHOP IS SHUTTING DOWN AFTER MORE THAN 30 YEARS IN BUSINESS. WE THOUGHT WE'D POP IN AND SEE THE OWNER SHIRLEY KEMP FOR MORE. MORENA, SHIRLEY! GOOD MORNING, WELCOME TO TRICK OR TREAT GAFFES. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US, BUT I'M SORRY THAT WE ARE TALKING TO YOU AT THE END OF A THREE DECADE CAREER. WHAT HAS HAPPENED? IT IS JUST TIME FOR ME, TIME TO HANG UP THE APRON. DO THINGS. LOOKED AFTER THE GRANDKIDS, TRAVEL. I HAVE TO SAY, AT A GIFT STORE YOU DO LOVE LOOKING THROUGH EVERYTHING THAT A LOCAL GIFT STORE HAS TO OFFER. YOU MUST'VE HEARD SOME STORIES OVER THE YEARS ABOUT WHY PEOPLE WERE COMING IN TO PURCHASE CERTAIN PRESENCE. OH, YES. THERE ARE BEEN SOME FUN TIMES, THAT IS FOR REAL SOME CUSTOMERS ARE PATTERSON FITS OF LAUGHTER, BECAUSE YOU BUY A GIFT AND IT IS A SECRET. YOU DO NOT REPEAT WHAT YOU BUY. THEY MUST BECOME A BIT OF AN ISSUE SOMETIMES IN A LOCAL TOWN WHEN EVERYONE KNOWS EACH OTHER. YES, IT DOES. THAT IS FOR REAL. SO YOU ARE A GOOD KEEPER OF SECRETS AS WELL? YOU HAVE TO BE. YOU CANNOT MENTION WHAT SOMEONE IS COMING AND BOUGHT BECAUSE YOU DO NOT KNOW WHO WAS WHO OR WHO IS CONNECTED TO WHO. VERY FAIR POINT. YOU HAD SOME POPULAR GIFTS THAT HAVE SOLD OVER THE YEARS, PARTICULARLY TRICKS OR TREATS PEOPLE LIKE BUYING OVER? USED TO HAVE THE ALL BURNERS A COUPLE YEARS AGO, AND THEN THERE WERE THE JEWELLERY HOLDERS. YOU KNEW ABOUT THOSE THINGS TO STOCK. THEIR BENCH FRIENDS OVER THOSE YEARS, BUT THERE ARE NO ACTUAL TRENDS ANY MORE, AND EITHER USED TO BE. THAT USED TO BE COLLECTIBLE DRAGONS 25 YEARS AGO, THERE IS STILL ONE DRAGON IN NEW PLYMOUTH, AND THAT WAS 4000 BACK THEN. HE WAS A LIMITED EDITION. I'M GOING TO SELL IT OFF IN THE NEXT MONTH. IF IT CARRIES ON LIKE YESTERDAY, THIS IS A VERY MEMORY LANE. EVERYONE CAME IN TO SAY GOODBYE AND PURCHASE SOMETHING. IT WAS LOVELY TO SEE EVERYONE COME IN. THAT'S NICE, AN OPPORTUNITY TO CATCH UP WITH EVERYONE. YES, EVEN MY DAUGHTER'S KINDERGARTEN TEACHER CAME IN TO SAY GOODBYE YESTERDAY. PEOPLE WOULD HAVE HEARD ABOUT IT, SO THEY KNOW YOU'RE CLOSING. THEY MIGHT SAY, I BOUGHT SOMETHING FROM YOU, AND WANT TO BUY ONE LAST THING. CORRECT. I HAVE HAD THE GOLDEN HANDSHAKE FOR A WHILE, AND IT IS TIME FOR ME TO GO WHITE BAITING AND GO TO PERTH AND CATCH UP WITH THE GRANDBABIES AND GO TO SPORTS DAY. SURELY, ENJOY THESE GOLDEN YEARS AHEAD OF YOU. WHAT A MAGNIFICENT RUN. I'M SURE THE PEOPLE OF NEW PLYMOUTH WILL MISS THEIR GIFT STORE BUT YOU HAVE DONE AN AMAZING SERVICE PROVIDING GIFTS FOR ALL OCCASIONS. HAVE A GLORIOUS TIME IN PERTH. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS MORNING. WE'LL BE BACK TOMORROW. CAPTIONS BY JULIE TAYLOR, COURTNEY SOLE, BILLY GARRATT-JOHN AND DREW WELSH. CAPTIONS WERE MADE WITH THE SUPPORT OF NZ ON AIR.