1Robert Patman is Professor of International Relations at the Department of Politics, University of Otago. His book, 'Strategic Shortfall: The Somali Syndrome and the March to 9/11', is published by Praeger, and argues that the 9/11 terrorist attacks were the product of a policy vacuum in the United States that was prompted by what had happened in Somalia in the 1990s.
2Ken Crispin is a former judge of the Australian Supreme Court and the author of 'The Quest for Justice', published by Scribe. He talks to Chris Laidlaw about the strengths and weaknesses of the legal system, mandatory sentences, loss of rights due to the fear of terrorism, the 'war on drugs', the effect of 'tough on crime' rhetoric of police and politicians, and other issues which threaten justice in Western societies.