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Weeknight prime-time current affairs interview show

Primary Title
  • Close Up
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 27 March 2012
Start Time
  • 19 : 00
Finish Time
  • 19 : 30
Duration
  • 30:00
Channel
  • TV One
Broadcaster
  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Weeknight prime-time current affairs interview show
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captioning Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Genres
  • News
  • Newsmagazine
Tonight on Close Up ` he was shot dead by police nearly a year ago, so why is his family still waiting for answers? Where is the justice? We return to Alan Gibbs' art-filled playground to check out his latest addition. This is not supposed to be anything. And Abby Scott meets the family with a passion for putting turkey on your Christmas table. Sorry, sorry, sorry. Due to the live nature of Close Up, captions for some items may be incomplete. ONE News captions by Sam Bradford and Desney Thorogood. Close Up captions by June Yeow and Pippa Jefferies. 13 bullet holes, all from a police Glock ` that's what the family of a young man shot by police in Hawke's Bay think they've found in the blood-stained clothing he wore when he died. The clothing is about the only thing police have given the family, but they want answers. Lachan Kelly-Tumarae died a year ago. His grandmother still doesn't know why an officer shot him. Soon we'll ask police what their homicide investigation has uncovered, but first Heather du Plessis-Allan with the Tumarae family. MELANCHOLY MUSIC This is the first time Narina Tumarae's looked at the clothing her grandson wore when he was shot dead by police. CRIES: They shot his foot. Oh, what fricking mongrels. MELANCHOLY MUSIC There are 13 punctures in the blood-stained clothing. CRIES: He was such a handsome boy. A hole in the shoe, seven in the trousers, five in the T-shirt that covered Lachan Kelly-Tumarae's torso. Here, sides, and look at that. No one would have lived through that. The family say police returned the clothing in December. It's taken them four months to open the box. They must've really mangled him. It's like he was hit and hit. I cry almost daily for this boy, so I can't imagine what she lives through daily. Mum ` you know. For hours after his body was taken away, Lachan Kelly-Tumarae's sneakers still lay by the roadside where he was shot by police. They said they had found him acting suspiciously in Napier earlier in the night. They said he pointed a shotgun at them. He would never have pulled that trigger. SIRENS WAIL He sped away in his grandmother's car. Police followed. Why did they do this to our boy? After a 15-minute pursuit between Hawke's Bay towns, the teen stopped at the cemetery where his grandfather's buried. What else could he have done? He was at a cemetery. He would've probably just gone in there and jumped on his grandfather and cried or something. Instead, the 19-year-old died next to his grandmother's car. It looks like a straightforward enough investigation. Police had their victim, their shooter and the empty cartridges lying on the road. But a year on, we still don't know why police shot the 19-year-old. The truth is what we want. Get right to the bottom of it. But police just aren't saying. And the bullet-ridden clothing is raising more questions than it answers. Just how many bullets created those holes? To see that many bullet holes in my nephew's clothing ` I definitely want some answers now. Police won't say how many bullets in total struck the student or how many times the officer fired his Glock. We don't even know why the officer fired. The day after the shooting, police said Lachan Kelly-Tumarae shot at them first. 24 hours later, they would only say he discharged his weapon. The Tumarae family say, yes, he did, but not at police. They say the shotgun went off while he was still in the car, leaving a hole in the passenger-side footwell. And a witness we've spoken to today says she never heard a shotgun go off. < Are you suggesting that if he fired the shotgun into the car, < he didn't actually fire the shotgun at the cops? No, I don't even believe he had the gun when he hopped out of the car. And, like the eyewitness said, he didn't have anything. The post-mortem report says the teen died of an unspecified number of gunshot wounds to his abdomen and right leg. According to the death certificate, his wounds claimed him there on the roadside before he could get medical attention. An eyewitness apparently confirms that. They saw the police, like, panic around him, and then when the ambulance arrived, they just picked him up and took him into the ambulance. His head was hanging. They just picked him up like a bloody pig. < But the police told you that he died where? In hospital. If Lachan Kelly-Tumarae had died in hospital, it would've meant his wounds weren't as grievous and he would have survived longer. Instead, his family visit where he died every time they visit his grave. He's buried only metres away, next to his grandfather. MOURNFUL MUSIC Why should I be coming here at all visiting my grandson? He should be coming visiting me. Can the police answer the family's concerns? And why has it taken so long? Joining me now is Detective Superintendent Andy Lovelock, who's headed the investigation into the shooting of Kelly Tumarae. how many shots were fired? I can't say that. that needs to be referred to the coroner. I counted seven shells. evidently a number of shells were found. they were not 13 bullet holes and clothing. He was one bullet hole in his clothing linked to a shot that hit lachan in the abdomen the other holes and their ranged from cigarette burn holes, tears, and materials removed by scientists do we know if he fired? we know he fired at the car. There is no evidence he fired at police. did he have the gun with him out of the car when he was shot? if the police officer feels threatened, The law allows a potentially lethal force. But it is subject to very close scrutiny I've read the police protocols. I empathise with the family. was the officer an experienced officer with firearms? I'm not going to answer that. there needs to be a thorough investigation every time a police officer should someone causes death. ultimately, though, the matter will be referred to the coroner. did he die at the scene? the police officer drove the ambulance to the hospital, and they continue to try to save his life. the fact is he died in hospital. is a year reasonable to wait? it's on a case to case basis. So what do you think? Always keen to hear from you. You know what to do. Email us at closeup@tvnz.co.nz, and we're on Facebook too ` facebook.com/closeup. Coming up ` Alan Gibbs shows off his latest amazing installation in what the artist calls the world's greatest sculpture park. Plus, why Christmas comes early for the family mad on turkeys. It's really free range. You can see it ` we farm them like sheep. Remember Michael Holland's piece on Allan Gibbs and his extraordinary sculpture park? If you missed it, you're in luck. He's been back. We suspect Allan's converted Michael into a fully fledged art lover, although it's impossible for anyone not to be impressed by the latest addition ` 100 tons of rusty metal reaching for the sky. TECHNO MUSIC This is not supposed to be anything. It does what it does. TECHNO MUSIC CONTINUES Beautiful and imposing. TECHNO MUSIC CONTINUES That's magnificent. Uh, it works. Look, I don't know. We've been here before ` to this place of creative expression on a canvas of manicured green. We've been fascinated. We've been left wondering, shaking our heads. Enter, then, eight columns of steel. DRAMATIC MUSIC It's a unique object, and you take it for what it looks like. If it grabs you, you know, if it really gets your emotions, then it's great. If you have to read a book about it, it's a failure. SOARING ORCHESTRA MUSIC Artistic failure far from the consciousness of the creator, renowned French sculptor Bernar Venet. It looks like it is going to fall, because the clouds look like they don't move and the sculpture looks like it's moving. I don't want to stay here. It's 27m, or in my old-fashioned terms, 90ft high, yes. I don't know how they got it to stay up like that and not collapse. EERIE MUSIC I work with order and disorder. This is a mix of order and disorder, actually. UPBEAT STRINGS MUSIC That mix makes Venet highly sought after, from here on the shores of the Kaipara Harbour to the Palace of Versailles... WOMAN SPEAKS FRENCH ...and a coming exhibition in Moscow's famed Gorky Park. UPBEAT STRINGS MUSIC CONTINUES A good artist is someone who creates a new aesthetic. It creates something that was never appreciated before, never thought before, never conceived before. UPBEAT STRINGS MUSIC CONTINUES I think it's amazing. Look at how it's all interwoven up there. This weighs 100 tons. In order to hold it, up we've had to put a foundation under here weighing 300 tons. This one, when you consider the fact that there are eight lines together, makes it a very physical piece. How many hours has gone into that from your point of view? First of all, it's like 50 years of being an artist and finding ways to do something interesting in art, OK? 50 years. Then the real thing, when I make the maquette, it takes only, you know, a few minutes. It takes half an hour, let's say. And for the record and the enlightenment of this reporter, a maquette's defined as a small scale model of the finished piece. I decided, right, you know, this was bloody good and we'd make it. But I had a maquette of it sit on my fireplace for a couple of years to get to know it. FUNKY MUSIC Then the workmen at the factory, they worked a lot. I have no idea. I mean, you know, it's, like, weeks and weeks and weeks. It's months of work for several men, you know. He gave us the design, and we did all the engineering and construction in NZ. We've got some excellent engineers. I mean, if you look at the size of the people next to it, it's extraordinarily imposing, but it fits. I mean, it's just part of the landscape. The landscape moves with it. At the end of the day, though, isn't it just rusty steel? Oh, come on. You seriously think I'd say that? Not at all. Not at all. People are always afraid to see rusted steel. You know, rusted makes you think about something which is degraded, something which is being destroyed or damaged, where, actually, the colour is absolutely beautiful. It starts off in this lovely, light yellowy, beige-y colour, and then it gradually goes, over, say, 10 years, to the colour of the Serra over there. We'll let it do its thing and watch the stages of its evolution. So you don't have a static sculpture; you have an evolving one. MOMENTOUS CHORAL MUSIC I think Alan Gibbs is doing something that is really exceptional. I mean, in the world, this is, to me, the most` potentially the best. I mean, it is already is the best sculpture park in the world. SOARING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC A certain Frenchman told me that this park is at the top of its game worldwide. Well, that's very nice of him. I appreciate it. It's a big part of my life. It's a very important part of my life. SOARING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC I think that, you know, NZ can be very proud of what he's been` what has been happening here. SOARING ORCHESTRAL MUSIC Michael Holland has now started wearing a beret into the office. Coming up ` Abby Scott talks turkey with the family making a living out of Christmas. They're truly free range. You can see it. We farm them like sheep. We're talking turkeys now. You might ask why when it's March, but right now is when the turkey heading for your table this Christmas is heading for the freezer. Philip Crozier's spent 50 years farming free-range birds. Not just him, the whole family's been involved, but now he's about to pack it in. Abby Scott headed to Ashburton, where turkeys roam the plains. TURKEYS GOBBLE Sorry, sorry, sorry. Have they laid an egg today? Yes, they have. Years ago, you couldn't get within about 2m of them, but, uh,... now you can just about pat them. Philip Crozier likes to talk turkey. I get called Turkey from when I was at school. He and wife Judith make up Crozier's Turkeys,... That's a good-sized one. ...a family-run business based just out of Ashburton. Phillip's spent 50 years doing this, and I've been 40. I'd have been about 17, 18, something like that. A little bit more hair? I'd say. The neighbour years ago suggested I try turkeys instead of ducks. And using my father's truck and my uncle's grain, I think I made �200 in the first year with a hundred turkeys. And I thought, 'Gee whizz, this is good.' That was back in the '60s. Now it's a 33ha, 20,000-bird operation. We do the whole thing. We actually breed them, artificially inseminate, we rear them, we process them ourselves, we make our own feed, and we sell them. This is the hatchery. It's a fairly modern one. And... a lot of people aren't allowed into the hatchery nowadays, but we still allow it. We actually think if our turkeys are introduced to a few bugs early in life, it's good for them. Not one to count his turkeys before they've hatched, he's proud as punch once they have. They're very inquisitive. They come out on the 28th day every year. Mind your heads. You just sort of slide your feet through the front. Next, it's into the barn... TURKEYS GOBBLE And that's a noise they've all got ` practising their gobble. ...before they're sent out into the paddocks. They're truly free range. You see we farm them like sheep. And just like sheep,... Here, Max. Come here. ...they're herded up. It's very simple. We have a dog and two people, usually, and these leaf rakes that people call them, but we call them turkey wands. And so we grow them at the natural time of the year, so we have to kill them from now on till the middle of winter, and they get stored in a freezer until Christmas-time. The operation is very much a family one. Grandson George helps collect the eggs. Oh yeah, you got one there. Their daughters also help out,... Good afternoon. Croziers Turkeys. Rowena speaking. ...and it's all hands on deck selling the frozen birds at the weekend farmers' market. For the Croziers, turkeys have always been a way of life. That's Amanda, and she's eating the mash ` sitting at the feed trough, eating the mash. We got to go on a lot of family holidays, but they would all involve a butcher on the West Coast or, you know, another butcher in Queenstown or another butcher in the North Island. Once the kids grew up and left school, if they couldn't find a job, there was always a job at the plant, so it was really good incentive to get out there and find a good job. TOY TURKEY GOBBLES, JINGLES The incentive seems to have worked. While the kids have done their bit, they've all pursued other careers. So with Philip getting ready to hang up his turkey wand, he's having to sell the business rather than hand it down. Does that make you sad that you can't hand the family business on? Oh, well, it's been my thing. It's not everybody's. Acquired taste, is it? That's right. Yeah. TURKEYS GOBBLE I spent 20 years trying to get off the farm, not` not to go back on to it. Even Philip and Judith admit being turkey farmers has gobbled up their spare time. They're looking forward to life after turkeys. Being a turkey farmer hasn't made you a multimillionaire? Not really, but I've had a lot of fun. LIVELY MUSIC Time for your feedback now, and this is what you had on Lachan Kelly-Tumarae. Neil emails... Shane has this... Kaylip says... And that's NZ Close Up. Captions were made possible with funding from NZ On Air. Copyright TVNZ Access Services 2012