6PM CAPTIONS BY LAUREN STRAIN AND CONOR WHITTEN. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT TVNZ ACCESS SERVICES 2013 HI. WELCOME TO THE SHOW. TONIGHT WE TUNE OUT, TURN OFF AND CUT POWER. NOT IN A FREE-LOVE '60S WAY ` WE HAVE TAKEN A FAMILY AND UNHOOKED THEM FROM EVERY GADGET GOING. HOW DID THEY COPE WITH POWERING DOWN ON THE SO-CALLED BOREDOM BUSTERS, AND COULD YOU DO IT? < WHICH ONE ARE YOU GONNA MISS THE MOST? MY PHONE. I'M NOT GONNA SURVIVE. ALSO ` THE BEAUTICIAN WHOSE HANDS COULD BE RUNNING OUT OF TOWN. THERE'S NOTHING VERBAL, NOTHING SAID. IT'S ALL WHAT'S SAID BEHIND YOUR BACK. IT'S THINGS LIKE, 'WHAT'S IT LIKE WITH THOSE HANDS ON YOUR FACE?' CAN YOU MAKE FUN OF SOMEONE WITHOUT DEFAMING THEM? OUR LAWYERS ARE STANDING BY WHILE I FIND OUT HOW CLOSE TO THE EDGE I CAN GO. IT'S A SPINE-TINGLING PIECE OF MUSIC PLAYED BY REAL PEOPLE AT THE CRACK OF DAWN ` WE MEET THE BUGLERS. IT'S WEDNESDAY NIGHT AT 7 SHARP. TWO VERY SHORT SENTENCES CAN SUM UP THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MOST KIDS ON HOLIDAY NOW AND WHEN I WAS ON SCHOOL HOLIDAYS IN YEARS GONE BY. 'I'M BORED' IS OFTEN REPLACED BY 'I'M ON MY IPAD' OR LAPTOP OR XBOX OR WHATEVER ELECTRONIC BIT OF KIT IS KEEPING CHILDREN AMUSED. IMAGINE IF SOMEONE TOOK ALL THAT STUFF AWAY ` NO SMARTPHONE, NO TV, NO MP3. HAYDEN JONES FOUND A FAMILY WILLING TO DO MORE THAN JUST IMAGINE IT. 3.45 FRIDAY AFTERNOON, THE CARR FAMILY IS HOME. JASMINE (11), LIAM (9) AND GEORGIA (13) ARE ON A MISSION TO SAY SAYONARA TO GADGETS. NO IPODS, CELL PHONES; EVEN THE HARMLESS LITTLE IPOD NANO IS OUT OF HERE. < WHICH ONE ARE YOU GOING TO MISS THE MOST? MY PHONE. I'M NOT GONNA SURVIVE. THE CARRS ARE A COMPETITIVE BUNCH, SO THE PARENTS TOO ARE UNPLUGGING. I THINK THE PERSON THAT'S GONNA BREAK DOWN IS DAD. TELEVISION, COMPUTER ` ALL GONE. DAD WON'T SURVIVE WITHOUT THE RUGBY AND TRACKSIDE. I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT THAT I'M GOING TO BE FINE. THE TV COULD BE HARDEST FOR ME. THAT'S DAD AGAIN. OOH. DAD. DAD. THEY'RE GOT A LOT MORE TECHNOLOGY THAN ME. THEY'VE GOT WAY MORE TO LOSE. SO HERE'S WHAT THEY'RE GIVING UP ` FOUR PHONES, SEVEN MP3 PLAYERS, A COUPLE OF REMOTES. IT'S EASY TO AMASS AN ARSENAL OF TECHNOLOGY WHEN THE CHINESE MAKE IT SO CHEAPLY. GOOD. BEND AT THE KNEES A BIT, THOUGH. A BIT HIGHER. SATURDAY MORNING, 10AM, SUBURBAN RUGBY GROUND. IT'S FAMILY TIME. MICHAEL COACHES. LIAM PLAYS. GEORGIA HELPS OUT. WELL, DAD LIKES TO CALL ME THE MANAGER COS THEN HE DOESN'T HAVE TO DO THE WORK. THEY'VE BEEN BUSY SO FAR. SO NO TECHNOLOGY, NO PROBLEM. INSTEAD OF TURNING THE TV ON, THEY GOT A PACK OF CARDS OUT, AND AWAY WE WENT. THE CARRS DON'T STOP ON A SATURDAY. ACROSS TOWN, JASMINE'S AT NETBALL. HERE'S JO, THE MUM. SHE HATES CAMERAS. AND AFTER JASSMINE AND GEORGIA BOTH PLAY NETBALL, THEY HIT ANOTHER VENUE, THIS TIME A SCHOOL HALL. THEY DON'T GET THE CHANCE TO GET BORED. AND WHEN KIDS DO GET BORED THESE DAYS, UNFORTUNATLEY, THEY DON'T USUALLY HEAD TO THE PLAYGROUND; THEY USUALLY PICK UP A PIECE OF TECHNOLOGY, AS YOU KNOW. BUT THERE US A LITTLE BIT OF RESEARCH AROUND THAT SUGGESTS GIVING A BORED KID AN IPAD IS NOT NECESSARILY THE SOLUTION. SO BY BEATING THE BOREDOM ON THEIR OWN, KIDS LEARN SELF-CONTROL, WHICH CAN LEAD TO BETTER BEHAVIOUR IN OTHER AREAS. WELL, AT LEAST THAT'S WHAT THE ACADEMICS SAY. SATURDAY NIGHT, DINNER AT THE MAGONS. THEY'RE FAMILY FRIENDS. SOPHIE AND LAURA MAGON ARE ALSO TECHNOLOGY FREE. YEAH, UNFORTUNATELY, OUR KIDS ARE ON A WEEK'S SABBATICAL FROM ALL THIS TYPE OF STUFF BECAUSE OF NAUGHTY BEHAVIOUR, SO... THAT'S THE UNFORTUNATE THING IF YOU'VE BEEN NAUGHTY ` THERE'S ALWAYS CONSEQUENCES. THEY'VE BEEN GOING FOR FIVE DAYS STRAIGHT. WE'VE ACTUALLY FOUND THEY'RE ACTUALLY COMMUNICATING A LITTLE BIT MORE. THE FIGHTING SEEMS TO HAVE STOPPED, COS THEY'RE NOT FIGHTING OVER IPODS AND THE COMPUTER. FIVE KIDS IN A ROOM, IT'S GUITAR AND GAMES. THEY'RE SLOWLY LEARNING THEY NEED EACH OTHER FOR ENTERTAINMENT. AT THE END OF THE DAY, KIDS ARE STILL KIDS, SO THEY CAN BE AS SOPHISTICATED AS THEY LIKE AND THINK AND HAVE ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AND ALL THAT KIND OF STUFF, BUT WHEN YOU STRIP IT ALL BACK, THEY'RE STILL KIDS, AND THEY STILL ENJOY THE SIMPLE THINGS. SUNDAY, AND THE CARR KIDS ARE THRIVING WITHOUT TECHNOLOGY. THE NEIGHBOURS' DOGS ARE LOVING IT TOO. THERE'S BEEN TWISTER, WINDOW WASHING, BAKING. THE KIDS HAVE NEVER REALLY BAKED TOGETHER BEFORE. IF WE'VE LEARNED ANYTHING OVER THIS WEEKEND, IT WOULD BE THAT OUR FAMILY HAS PROBABLY COMMUNICATED A WHOLE LOT MORE AND THE KIDS, IN PARTICULAR, HAD TO COOPERATE, BECAUSE THEY NEEDED EACH OTHER TO PLAY THE GAME, WHEREAS IN THE PAST. THEY COULD JUST CHILL OUT ON A DEVICE. THE CARRS ARE BACK ONLINE, BUT THEY'RE NOT THE SAME FAMILY. THEY SAY BEING UNPLUGGED WAS ACTUALLY OK, AND THEY'VE ALL AGREED THEY'RE GONNA DO IT AGAIN SOME TIME SOON. WE JUST HAD TO DO DIFFERENT THINGS, AND IT WAS FUN. JOINING US IS JOURNALIST, COLUMNIST, MUM AND MANY OTHER THINGS BESIDES, DITA DE BONI. Could you do that and says sane? As parents, do we rely too much on the gadgets as the electronic babysitter? I think we do. Also we like it ourselves. You guys are all probably news junkies just like me. The dads probably around my age, and in my day, if they were there, I would never have left the house. We have one and a half year old and he calls the phone baby. He likes the touchpad. They know how to make things bigger. We're not in your day. Telling kids we don't have things; we have them now. They don't have a lot of control about what they are allowed to do, so maybe we should be saying go out and amuse yourself. Get kids interested in reading. So my kids would spend all day on the computer, but they still like books. You do have to engage kids, and that will mitigate it. I love the way we're doing a story on technology and online stuff and saying it's terrible (!) Do you think books are the first thing to suffer with these things? You have to put in the ground work at other times to make sure there are other things mitigating those effects. Is it healthy to take the screens away? We'll do it with candy. I get 40 min of peace in the morning. I put two episodes of Dora the Explorer on and relax. The interesting thing is when you have your first kid, you think they won't watch TV. By the time you get to the third one, it's like TV. DOODLING AND DRAWING IS A SIGN OF ALERTNESS. BUT WHEN I LOOK AROUND, EVERYBODY HAS THEIR HEADS BOWED, AND YOU SEE THAT LITTLE SEA OF POPPIES AROUND EVERYONE, AND IT'S VERY SPECIAL. GO ON, HAVE A CRY ` YOU KNOW YOU WANT TO. WE'RE LOOKING AT ANZAC DAY'S EMOTIONAL TRIGGER POINT. ANZAC DAY TOMORROW, AND IT'S MORE TO US THAN JUST A DAY OFF, ISN'T IT? BUT I'M BETTING THERE'LL BE ONE SINGLE MINUTE THAT'S GUARANTEED TO CHOKE YOU UP TOMORROW. MICHAEL HOLLAND TOURED THE WAIKATO TO FIND FOUR OF THE PEOPLE WHO'LL SEND SHIVERS RIGHT UP YOUR SPINE. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') MY NAME IS LEONARD CLARK. I'M 17 YEARS OF AGE. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') I'M A DIRECTOR OF MY OWN COMPANY. I'M THE ONLY BUGLE PLAYER IN HUNTLY. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') THEY'RE AS EVERYDAY, ORDINARY AS ALL OF US,... I'M A MUM. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') ...AS VARIED AS ALL OF US. I'M 14 YEARS OLD. SIMPLY, THEY ARE US. I GET THIS MASSIVE LUMP IN MY THROAT. THOSE WHO COMMAND OUR ATTENTION FOR NO MORE THAN 20 OR 30 SECONDS, BUT REACH SO DEEP INTO OUR HEARTS. I ALMOST FEEL LIKE THE NOTE CAN'T COME OUT, THE FIRST ONE. THE RICHNESS OF TONE COMING THROUGH FROM THE INSTRUMENT AT DAWN. BUGLER PLAYS 'TAPS' IT'S HARD NOT TO CHOKE UP SOMETIMES. JUST A FEELING THAT I'VE DONE EVERYBODY PROUD. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') THE FIRST TIME I ACTUALLY PLAYED THE LAST POST IN FRONT OF AN AUDIENCE, I WAS 11 YEARS OLD, AND IT WAS AT MY INTERMEDIATE SCHOOL. AND THEY INVITED A VETERAN TO COME ALONG AND TALK TO THE STUDENTS ABOUT WHAT ANZAC DAY MEANT TO HIM. AND THEN I PLAYED THE LAST POST. AND WHEN I FINISHED, I TURNED AROUND, AND I SAW TEARS ROLLING DOWN HIS FACE. AND IT WAS AT THAT POINT THAT I REALISED HOW IMPORTANT THE PIECE OF MUSIC IS. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') THIS IS MY SECOND ANZAC SERVICE I WILL BE PLAYING FOR, AND IT'S THE FIRST ONE I'LL HAVE BRACES WITH. IT'S A LOT HARDER BECAUSE YOU HAVE THAT WHOLE INTENSE PAIN. I CAN STILL REACH THE NOTES, BUT MY LIPS ARE SAYING, 'JUST GIVE UP. GIVE UP.' (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') A LOT OF NERVOUS FEELINGS, WALKING UP ON TO THE CENOTAPH, HOPING THAT I GET EVERY SINGLE NOTE EXACT. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') THE BREAK OF THE NEW DAY, I THINK WHAT ABOUT WHAT IT MUST HAVE BEEN LIKE FOR THOSE SOLDIERS. MOST PEOPLE DON'T KNOW WHO'S PLAYING 'THE LAST POST' BECAUSE IT'S DARK, BUT I CAN SEE EVERYTHING THAT'S GOING ON. EVERYBODY HAS THEIR HEADS BOWED, AND YOU SEE THAT LITTLE SEA OF POPPIES AROUND EVERYONE. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') LAURIE BATES, THE BEST GRANDAD A GIRL COULD HAVE, HE SERVED IN AFRICA, AND I WOULDN'T ACTUALLY BE HERE IF IT WASN'T FOR THE WAR, BECAUSE HE MET MY GRANDMOTHER OVER THERE. SHE WAS A NURSE SERVING. IT WAS MY GRANDFATHER'S WISH THAT I PLAY AT HIS FUNERAL. I WASN'T THERE, GRANDAD, TO PLAY AT YOUR ACTUAL FUNERAL, BUT I'M PLAYING IT EVERY YEAR FOR YOU AS WELL. I JUST SEE THE FLAG SLOWLY FLUTTERING, AND LAST YEAR IT WAS DEAD FLAT. BUT IT JUST STARTED SLOWLY PICKING UP UNTIL I COULD SEE ALL THE COLOURS ACROSS. IT WAS VERY SPECIAL. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') SPECIAL FOR HIM, SPECIAL FOR THEM AND SPECIAL FOR US. THIS IS FOR YOU, LAURIE. > YEAH, FOR LAURIE. ALWAYS FOR LAURIE. VERY PRIVILEGED, REALLY HONOURED. THE NOTE JUST DRIFTS AWAY, BASICALLY INTO NOTHINGNESS. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') AND IF THAT DIDN'T MAKE YOU SNIFFLE, LET'S HAVE ANOTHER GO. IN THE STUDIO TONIGHT, WE HAVE THE VERY BUGLE THAT WAS PLAYED AT GALLIPOLI 98 YEARS AGO. RETIRED CAPTAIN BLAKE W HERBERT, WHO'S A REGIMENTAL ARCHIVIST, IS HERE WITH ITS STORY. HOW DID IT GET INTO YOUR HANDS? It came into my hands with me getting a phone call from an executive officer. He then approached by a retired plumber to say that he had this Bugle and thought ours would be a good home for it. Who you'd think would be lining up for it. Where did the plumber find it? He was doing some plumbing work and it was sitting on a bottom plate under the house. There's some engravings on it that you can just make out, and they were tapped out on the battlefield. Around the bell of the two vessels, the one that first took them to Alexandria, and then they went from Alexandra on to Gallipoli itself. Who played it? We assume he played it. It's not unusual for a sergeant to play an instrument. WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION WHEN HE TOLD YOU THE STORY? Goosebumps. I rang him straight away. We met within for five hours. I held it, and it's goosebumps. It's quite eerie holding something that was originally part of the Auckland regiments treasures and now come home. We feel very lucky to have it here with us. SO STAY WITH US UNTIL THE END OF THE SHOW BECAUSE WE'LL CLOSE THE PROGRAMME WITH THE LAST POST FROM THIS VERY SPECIAL BUGLE. AFTER THE BREAK ` OUR LAWYERS ARE SWEATING. JESSE'S TALKING DEFAMATION. PLUS ` RACISM AND SEXISM, WE KNOW ABOUT, BUT HANDISM IS A NEW ONE. GREG STUBBINGS MEETS THE BEAUTY THERAPIST CONSERVATIVE LEADER COLIN CRAIG'S DECIDED TO NOT TAKE DEFAMATION ACTION AGAINST A SATIRICAL WEBSITE WHICH PRINTED A FALSE QUOTE FROM HIM LAST WEEK. THE LEGAL ACTION WAS PROBLEMATIC COS MOST OF US WOULD LIKE TO HAVE GO AT COLIN CRAIG, WOULDN'T WE? SO JESSE'S KINDLY PUT TOGETHER SOME TIPS TO HELP US OUT. YES, THE LEGAL THREATS MAY BE OVER, BUT HERE AT SEVEN SHARP, WE DON'T WANT ANYONE ELSE TO GET IN TROUBLE. SO I'VE PUT TOGETHER THIS HANDY TO MAKING FUN OF COLIN CRAIG. FIRSTLY, THE BEST DEFENCE IS TRUTH. IF I TOLD YOU THAT COLIN CRAIG SAID, 'BEING GAY IS A CHOICE,' OR THAT HE THINK THAT BEING ABUSED AS A CHILD CAN TURN YOU GAY, WELL, I CAN'T GET IN TROUBLE BECAUSE HE DID. I'M ALSO SAFE FROM THE LAWYERS IF I JUST STATE MY OPINION. AS LONG AS THAT'S MY HONEST OPINION, AND I CAN TELL YOU, IT BLOODY WELL IS, I SHOULD BE SAFE FROM THE LAWYERS. NOW, REMEMBER, PEOPLE. DEFAMATION CASES CAN BE EXPENSIVE. IF YOU'RE NOT SURE, JUST DON'T SAY IT. SO LET ME BE VERY CLEAR. SEEMS TO ME THAT HE JUST REALLY LOVES TO TALK ABOUT THEM. That close. IT'LL SHOCK YOU TO THE CORE TO HEAR I'VE NEVER HAD A FACIAL AT A BEAUTICIAN'S. I tried it once. IF I WERE TO HAVE ONE, I DON'T THINK I'D EVEN NOTICE THE SIZE OF THE HANDS DOING THE GOODFOOT ON MY FACE. SOME PEOPLE IN CHRISTCHURCH ARE, THOUGH. THEIR BEAUTICIAN IS A TRANSSEXUAL, AND SOME ARE STRUGGLING WITH THAT. HERE'S GREG STUBBINGS. COME IN. TAKE A SEAT. YOU MAY BE SURPRISED TO HEAR ` THIS IS MY FIRST TIME, UH, IN A BEAUTY PARLOUR. OH, JUST RELAX. NOW, YOU MIGHT ASSUME IT'S SOME LESS ENLIGHTENED MEN THAN ME WHO'VE BEEN GIVING STEPHANIE GRIEF. RECENTLY. I DON'T HAVE A LOT OF TROUBLE AT ALL FROM` FROM MEN. THE TROUBLE I'M GETTING HERE IS FROM FEMALES. SO WHAT KIND OF TROUBLE HAVE YOU HAD FROM THE LADIES? THAT'S NICE! THE LADIES ` IT'S NOTHING'S VERBAL. NOTHING'S SAID. IT'S ALL WHAT'S SAID BEHIND YOUR BACK. IT'S THINGS LIKE 'WHAT'S`? WHAT'S IT LIKE WITH THOSE HANDS ON YOUR FACE?' OR... < QUITE NICE. NO ONE'S EVER HAD A PROBLEM WITH THEIR SERVICE, HAVE THEY? NO` NO ONE'S EVER TOLD ME THEY'VE HAD. THE FEEDBACK THAT I'VE GOTTEN, ONE, IS MY FLYER ` A NATURAL WOMAN WOULDN'T HAVE A PHOTO LIKE THAT. WOULDN'T BE SHOWING OFF HER BOOBS LIKE THAT. I DIDN'T REALISE I WAS. < DOES IT LIKE IT COULD GET SO BAD HERE, IN CHRISTCHURCH, < THAT YOU WOULD HAVE TO LEAVE? I'VE... I'VE ALREADY HAD CALLS FROM AUCKLAND... FOR ME TO GO THERE. WOULD YOU WANT TO GO, THOUGH? NOT REALLY, BECAUSE I'D HAVE TO LEAVE MY KIDS. I WOULDN'T TAKE MY KIDS FROM THEIR FRIENDS, FROM THEIR SCHOOL. THIS IS THE BEST DAY AT THE OFFICE SO FAR. ARE THERE ANY ADVANTAGES? I DON'T HAVE ANY MORE STRENGTH THAN THE NORMAL GENETIC WOMAN. BUT YOU'RE ABLE TO... FEEL THOSE LUMPS AND BUMPS. YOU'RE ABLE TO KIND OF GET AROUND MUSCLES. I HAVEN'T HAD MANY FACIALS BEFORE, BUT THAT WAS DELIGHTFUL. WH-WHAT DO YOU WANT TO SAY TO PEOPLE WHEN THEY WATCH SOMETHING LIKE THIS? THE ISSUE'S NOT MINE. I'VE` I'VE DEALT WITH MY ISSUES. PROBABLY STILL DEALING WITH SOME. BUT DON'T JUDGE ME IF YOU HAVEN'T SEEN ME. I have had facials. You don't want to encounter anything uncomfortable. Suck it up. SO NOW WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE WITH THE LAST POST WITH THAT GALLIPOLI BUGLE. BEFORE WE DO THAT, WE ARE ON TOMORROW NIGHT ON ANZAC DAY, AND IF YOU'RE UP EARLY FOR A DAWN SERVICE, WE'D LOVE TO SEE SOME IMAGES FROM IT. WE CAN'T HAVE CAMERAS EVERYWHERE, SO SEND US A PICTURE OR VIDEO. YOU CAN SHARE THOSE WITH US THROUGH OUR WEBSITE. WE'LL SHOW SOME OF THOSE IMAGES ON THE PROGRAMME TOMORROW. SO WE'LL LEAVE YOU WITH KEN DAVIE, WHO'S THE REGIMENTAL ASSOCIATION BUGLER. SEE YOU TOMORROW NIGHT. (PLAYS 'THE LAST POST') SEVEN SHARP CAPTIONS BY FAITH HAMBLYN AND JOHN LING. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT TVNZ ACCESS SERVICES 2013