ONE NEWS CAPTIONS BY LAUREN STRAIN AND RICHARD EDMUNDS. SEVEN SHARP CAPTIONS BY JUNE YEOW AND SAM BRADFORD. COPYRIGHT TVNZ ACCESS SERVICES 2013 DUE TO THE LIVE NATURE OF SEVEN SHARP, WE APOLOGISE FOR THE LACK OF CAPTIONS FOR SOME ITEMS. HELLO. IT'S THE TOUGHEST NEW JOB YOU'LL EVER HAVE ` SO SHOULD YOU GET MORE TIME TO DO IT? PAID PARENTAL LEAVE'S BACK IN THE HEADLINES. THE PUSH IS ON TO EXTEND IT, BUT THE GOVERNMENT ISN'T KEEN. THERE ARE TWO SIDES OF THIS DEBATE, OR TO PUT IT IN LANGUAGE NZERS CAN UNDERSTAND - YEAH, NAH. WE'LL LINE UP THE ARGUMENTS AND LET YOU DECIDE. ALSO TONIGHT ` MOST 85-YEAR-OLDS TRAVEL ON A MOBILITY SCOOTER. BUT WE'VE FOUND WHAT MUST BE NZ'S OLDEST PETROL HEAD. SEE THE ROLL CAGE THAT'S RIGHT UP AND ACROSS THERE. AND THROUGH THERE. IT'S QUITE SERIOUS STUFF. AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES A CAR FEEL REALLY SAFE. GOOD. ALSO, CALL IT BEGGING WITH A SOUNDTRACK OR JUST MAKING A LIVING. BUSKER NUMBERS ARE GROWING AT AN ALARMING RATE. WE'LL FIND OUT WHAT SORT OF LIVING THEY'RE MAKING, PLUS TRY TO WORK OUT WHAT AN IRISHMAN'S TALKING ABOUT. UM,... (SPEAKS INDISTINCTLY) BIT BETTER THAN BELFAST, MAYBE. WHAT? BIT BETTER THAN BELFAST. WHAT? > AND IF YOU'RE IN OR NEAR OR AUCKLAND AND AT OR NEAR THE END OF YOUR TETHER, WE HEAD TO THE NEWEST WAY TO KEEP THE KIDS AND TV REPORTERS AMUSED. IT'S MONDAY NIGHT. IT'S A TRICKY ONE ` PAID PARENTAL LEAVE. THE SCEPTIC WOULD SAY, 'WELL, HAVING A BABY IS YOUR DECISION. 'GOOD FOR YOU. BUT WHY SHOULD WE FOOT THE BILL 'SO YOU CAN BE PAID TO DO IT?' THEN AGAIN, THERE'S EVIDENCE THAT HANGING WITH MUM FOR THE FIRST SIX MONTHS MAKES A HUGE DIFFERENCE. IF PAID PARENTAL LEAVE WAS DOUBLED TO 26 WEEKS IT WOULD IMPACT ON EVERYONE, AND IT'LL HAVE TO BE PAID FOR SOMEHOW. WE ASKED HAYDEN JONES AND GREG STUBBINGS TO TAKE THE YEA AND NAY RESPECTIVELY ON THIS DEBATE, OR AS WE'D RATHER CALL IT, 'YEAH NAH'. FIRST UP, HAYDEN ARGUES FOR THE AFFIRMATIVE. HELLO, TEAM. HAVE YOU NOTICED THAT IT'S MUMMIES AND DADDIES WHO MAKE BABIES ` GENERALLY ` AND THOSE BABIES REALLY CAN'T LOOK AFTER THEMSELVES? SO HERE'S A THOUGHT. WHAT ABOUT IF MUMMY AND DADDY STAYED AT HOME JUST A LITTLE BIT LONGER, JUST TO, YOU KNOW, GET THE BABY GOING. JUST AN IDEA. MIGHT TAKE OFF. CERTAINLY BY 14 WEEKS I WAS STILL REALLY STRUGGLING WITH ALL THE BASICS WITH HER, SHE WASN'T AN EASY LITTLE GIRL. I PERSONALLY THINK THAT 26 WOULD BE LOVELY. THE REST OF THE WORLD IS LARGELY LETTING ONE PARENT STAY AT HOME. JUST ASK THE RUSSIAN DOLLS ON THE COFFEE TABLE. THE UK ` 39 WEEKS' PAID POTENTIAL LEAVE. IRAN ` 90 DAYS. EVEN SYRIA ` 50 DAYS. NZ DOES 14 WEEKS, SECOND WORST IN THE OECD TO THE U.S. DEPENDING ON WHO YOU LISTEN TO, IT'S GONNA COST US BETWEEN $50-150M A YEAR FOR 26 WEEKS' PAID PARENTAL LEAVE. IT'S ROUGHLY ONE OF THOSE NEW HELICOPTERS EACH YEAR. FAR TOO PRECIOUS TIME, AND IT'S TIME A CHILD SHOULD HAVE A MOTHER AROUND. SO LET HIM STAY WITH MUM A LITTLE LONGER. IT HELPS THEIR PHYSICAL, MENTAL AND EMOTIONAL DEVELOPMENT, AND AFTER ALL, THESE BABIES ARE GONNA BE RUNNING THE PLACE ONE DAY. WHY DON'T WE GIVE THEM THE BEST START? I'D LIKE TO THINK THAT WE'D BE GIVING THEM A BETTER START IF WE WERE AT HOME WITH THEM. THAT IS A LOVELY IDEA. AUSTRALIA PAYS FOR 18 WEEKS. WE ARE AT THE BOTTOM OF THE SCALE. IN THE US, YOU MIGHT GET 12 WEEKS BUT IF YOU WORK IN A SMALL COMPANY YOU MIGHT NOT. HEAPS OF SUPPORT FOR THE YEAH. TWO YEARS AGO I WOULDN'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. SOUNDS PRETTY SIMPLE ` WE SHOULD JUST GO AHEAD AND EXTEND PARENTAL LEAVE, RIGHT? WELL, SOME PEOPLE SAY NAH, LIKE GREG STUBBINGS IN CHRISTCHURCH. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE EVERYTHING ABOUT THE EARTHQUAKE. BUT IT'S GOING TO COST BILLIONS. IT'S GOING UP PER SECOND. WE ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF A GLOBAL FINANCIAL CRISIS. IF NZ MOVED TO 26 WEEKS OF PARENTAL LEAVE, IT'LL COST THE TAXPAYER A LOT. YOU COULD COMPARE US TO AUSTRALIA, BUT THEY MAKE A FORTUNE. WE'D ALL LOVE A FEW MORE WEEKS WITH THE KIDS. BUT DADDY HAS TO WORK. GREG DOESN'T HATE CHILDREN. HE HAS ONE. IF I HAVE TO RETRAIN SOMEONE FOR 6 MONTHS, IT'S GOING TO COST ME. COUNTRIES THAT HAVE GENEROUS CONDITIONS HAVE A GREATER CHANCE OF MOTHERS COMING BACK TO WORK. IT SOUNDS LIKE ARBITRARY NUMBERS. WHAT IS THINKING BEHIND IT/ 6 MONTHS IS THAT MAGIC NUMBER. RESEARCH SHOWS BONDING IN FIRST 6 MONTHS LEADS TO BETTER OUTCOMES FOR CHILDREN YOU'RE AN EMPLOYER. YOU HAVE YOUR TIME AWAY. MUM COMES BACK AND DECIDES SHE DOESN'T WANT TO WORK ANY MORE. AS AN EMPLOYER, IT COSTS US MONEY TO DO THAT. THAT'S PART OF BEING A HUMAN BEING. YOU GET CHOICES MOST PEOPLE WOULD AGREE THAT THE MORE TIME MUM HAS WITH BABY, THE BETTER, BUT WHO SHOULD PAY FOR IT? TONIGHT WE'RE ASKING WHO SHOULD PAY FOR MATERNITY LEAVE: THE FAMILY, THE EMPLOYER OR THE TAXPAYER? YOU CAN TEXT EITHER 'A' 'B' OR 'C' TO 8875 OR YOU CAN VOTE FOR FREE ON FACEBOOK AND AT SEVENSHARP.CO.NZ. WE'LL HAVE THE RESULTS FOR YOU LATER IN THE SHOW. AFTER THE BREAK ` AND 90K DRIVERS NEARLY DRIVE ME NUTS. FORGET GENTLY GROWING OLD. WE MEET A WOMAN GOING SIDEWAYS INTO HER NINTH DECADE. AND WE PUT A HAT ON THE GROUND AND WARBLE A TUNE ON THE FOOTPATH. WHY ARE BUSKERS ON THE RISE? AGE CONCERN'S A GROUP WHICH LOOKS OUT FOR THE ELDERLY. THE ONLY CONCERN FOR THE ELDERLY WOMAN IN OUR NEXT STORY, THOUGH, IS THAT SHE MAY TAKE UP BASE JUMPING IF HER CURRENT HOBBY GETS A BIT MUNDANE. BRODIE KANE MEETS TE PUKE'S REMARKABLE SHIRLEY FAULL. SHIRLEY FAULL IS 85. SHE'S A MUM, GRANDMA, AND GREAT-GRANDA. VROOM! WHE COLLECTS BONSAI TREES AND HAS HER PILOT'S LICENCE. VROOM! BUT HER FAVOURITE HOBBY IS HOONING AROUND IN HER RALLY CAR. LIMP BIZKIT'S 'ROLLIN'' SEE, THE ROLL CAGE GOES RIGHT UP AND ACROSS THERE, AND THROUGH THERE. IT'S QUITE SERIOUS STUFF. AND THAT MAKES THE CAR FEEL REALLY SAFE. GOOD. IT'S PRETTY COOL. DOES IT GO FAST? YES. ALTHOUGH IN RALLYING, IN HILL CLIMBS, IT'S MORE MANOUEVRABILITY THAT COUNTS. SHIRLEY DOESN'T REALLY CARE THAT SHE'S CONSIDERED OLD, AND SHE CERTAINLY DOESN'T LET IT SLOW HER DOWN. I JUST KEEP ON DOING WHAT I'VE ALWAYS DONE, I KEEP ON WONDERING WHEN I'M GOING TO SLOW DOWN. SHE'S FIT AS A FIDDLE, TOO. I DO EXERCISES EVERY MORNING TO KEEP FIT, ARM AND LEG EXERCISES, AND THEN I FINISH WITH 10 SIT-UPS AND 10 PRESS-UPS. I FEEL A CHALLENGE COMING ON. # PUSH IT TO THE LIMIT. # # WALK ALONG THE RAZOR'S EDGE. # I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY ENOUGH, ISN'T IT? YEAH, I THINK THAT'LL DO. AND I THOUGHT I WAS TOUGH. WELL, I'VE GOT NOTHING ON HER. FAR OUT! WE CAUGHT UP WITH HER THE NIGHT BEFORE THE NGONGOTAHA HILL CLIMB IN ROTORUA. YOU DON'T HAVE A PORT BEFORE YOU GO TO BED, OR LIKE` OH, I DON'T DRINK ALCOHOL AT ALL. I'VE NEVER SMOKED, EITHER. WELL, THERE YOU GO. COMBINE BOTH OF THOSE, IT'S` OR TAKEN DRUGS. WELL, GOOD. GOOD, SHIRLEY. I'M GLAD FOR YOU. SHE WAS A LATE BLOOMER ON THE RALLY CAR CIRCUIT, BUYING HER FIRST CAR FOR THE SPORT AT 76. SOMETIMES I THINK, 'SHOULD I REALLY BE DOING THIS?' REALLY? WHAT'S YOUR ANSWER? 'OF COURSE'? > WELL, YES. WHY NOT? > THERE'S A VERY FITTING REASON AS TO WHY SHE'S SO PASSIONATE ABOUT MAKING THE MOST OF LIFE. 20 YEARS AGO, WHEN MY HUSBAND PASSED AWAY, I THOUGHT TO MYSELF, 'I MUST KEEP BUSY SO I WON'T BE LONELY.' SO I KEEP BUSY. THAT'S AMAZING. YES. THAT'S SO AMAZING. SUNDAY MORNING, NGONGOTAHA HILL, AND SHIRLEY'S AMPED FOR THE RACE. SHE'S HERE WITH ALL SORTS OF CARS AND DRIVERS. THEY ALL DO THREE CLIMBS, 1.2KM LONG. YOU READY TO GO? > YES. WHAT SORT OF TIME ARE YOU LOOKING FOR, SHIRLEY? OH, I TAKE THE FIRST RUN A BIT CAUTIOUSLY AND THEN GET FASTER AS THE DAY GOES ON. ALL RIGHT. WE'LL LEAVE YOU TO IT. ALL SET? AFTER A FEW HOURS OF BURNING RUBBER, SHIRLEY FLIES THROUGH ON HER FINAL RUN AND WE GO AND CHECK HER TIME. I THINK THAT'S HER FASTEST. FASTEST FOR THE DAY, YES. GOOD. TOOK ME ABOUT THREE AND A HALF MINUTES TO DRIVE THE CAMERA TRUCK UP BEFORE, SO THAT'S MOVING. NOW IT'S TIME TO BREAK THE NEWS TO SHIRLEY. DO YOU WANT ME TO TELL YOU WHAT YOUR TIME WAS? OH, PLEASE. 1.26.13 OH, THAT'S MY BEST YET! THAT'S GOOD, EH? YOU WERE GOING SO FAST WE NEARLY MISSED YOU AT THE FINISH LINE. WE'VE GOT TIME TO POP INTO PRIZEGIVING AFTER THE RACE, AND I'M GLAD WE DID. FIRST IN THE CLASS, FIRST IN THE SERIES... > SHIRLEY. > APPLAUSE SHE'S WON THE THREE-RACE SERIES IN HER CLASS, 1600CC AND UNDER. WHAT MAKES YOU HAPPIEST ABOUT A DAY LIKE TODAY? WELL, IT'S THE EXCITEMENT OF DOING SOMETHING EXCITING, AND IT'S THE PLEASURE OF MEETING OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE ENJOYING THE SAME THING. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I MAY NOT BE THE FASTEST DRIVER, BUT I'M DRIVING ON THE SAME ROADS AS THESE YOUNG FELLOWS WITH FLASH CARS AND WE'RE ALL HAVING A GOOD TIME, AND THEY ACCEPT ME AS ANOTHER DRIVER. # ROLLIN'! # She is really cool. She knows more about cars than I do. She's do a lot of off-road stuff. She said that changing tires on gravel is a bit of a hassle. She once a drive in a Lamborghini. There are a lot of Lamborghinis around the Bay of Plenty that I know of. You have to be quite small to fit into a Lamborghini. One of her favourite things to do is to go watch her grandson drift cars. Not many 85-year-olds like that I'VE ALWAYS FELT THAT BUSKING COMBINED TWO OF THE MOST HUMILIATING WAYS TO EARN MONEY - BEGGING AND SHOW BUSINESS. DEAN BUTLER AND TIM WILSON HIT AUCKLAND'S QUEEN STREET TO LEARN THE TRICKS OF THE TRADE. QUEEN STREET! (LAUGHS) QUEEN STREET! THE GOLDEN MILE. BUT FOR SOME, IT'S MORE LIKE... TIN PAN ALLEY. FAMILY SING THEY EITHER APPRECIATE IT OR THEY DON'T. THEY EITHER GIVE OR THEY DON'T. DO YOU CHOOSE THE SONGS, DAD? NO, THEY DO. YOU KIDS DO? OH, YOU'VE GOT THE BOOK. CAN YOU SHOW US? TELL US WHAT YOU'VE GOT. 'ABOVE ALL ELSE', 'TAKE ME BACK', 'OH JESUS', 'COME UNTO JESUS'... SINGING A LOT OF THE BUSKERS WALK AROUND, AND ONCE IT GETS A LOT OF MONEY IN YOU TAKE IT OUT, EXTRACT IT, SO THAT WHEN THEY COME AND HAVE A LOOK THEY GO, 'NOT VERY GOOD, HERE'. YOU KNOW? AND THEN THEY WON'T GO THERE, THEY WON'T BOTHER US, SEE? < VERY SLY, VERY SLY. FUNKY BASS SOLO ESPECIALLY WHEN I DO FRIDAY, SATURDAY NIGHTS, I'M ABLE TO PUT PEOPLE IN A REALLY GOOD, POSITIVE MOOD. DON'T COME OUT BUSKING AT NIGHT IF YOU ARE NOT STREET SMART. IT CAN GET QUITE DANGEROUS. RAPID GUITAR SOLO YOU CAN EARN FROM, LIKE, TWO BUCKS TO 50 BUCKS AN HOUR. (LAUGHS) IT'S NOT REALLY A DEPENDABLE LIFESTYLE. TRUMPET PARPS HOW DOES QUEEN STREET COMPARE TO THE BUSKING IN BELFAST? (THICK IRISH ACCENT) ERM... I MIGHT BE A BIT BIASED, BUT A BIT BETTER IN BELFAST, I THINK. WHAT? BIT BETTER IN BELFAST. WHAT? YEAH, QUEEN STREET'S AWESOME. JON TOOGOOD FROM SHIHAD, HE WAS WALKING DOWN THE STREET WITH A POSSE, LIKE 10 OF HIS FRIENDS, AND HE STOPPED HIS WHOLE CREW FOR, LIKE, FIVE MINUTES SO THAT THEY'D ALL LISTEN TO ME. AND THEN HE GAVE ME 20 BUCKS, HE WAS LIKE, 'THAT'S AWESOME, MAN, 'KEEP DOING WHAT YOU'RE DOING.' < I HAVEN'T GOT ANY CHANGE ON ME. WE DO TAKE EFTPOS! SMILING IS DEFINITELY GOOD, A GOODIE. IT'S CATCHY, YOU SEE. IT'S CONTAGIOUS. AND WHEN PEOPLE SMILE, THEY APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW? AND WHEN THEY SMILE, THEY GIVE MONEY! (LAUGHS) This is funny when there's a kid who has a drummed into them from a young age. The thing that got me about it is the classical guy with the long hair and beard. The guy who was talking about jon toogood is supporting himself and what he makes IF YOUR PARENTAL LEAVE'S RUN OUT, WE'VE GOT A BABYSITTER. OUR BOY MATT GOES TO A REVAMPED RAINBOW'S END. WELCOME BACK. LET'S HAVE A LOOK AT THE RESULTS OF THE POLL WE LAUNCHED EARLIER IN THE SHOW. WE ASKED WHO SHOULD PAY FOR MATERNITY LEAVE, AND YOU ANSWERED. WE HAD THOUSANDS OF VOTES. Nobody wants employers to pay the family, the taxpayer are roughly the same person. WHEN I WAS A BOY GROWING UP IN HAMILTON, RAINBOW'S END WAS LIKE DISNEYLAND. SOMEWHERE ALONG THE LINE, IT SORT OF LOST ITS ALLURE. You are 38 years old BUT THE AUCKLAND THEME PARK'S BEST DAYS MIGHT STILL BE AHEAD, THANKS TO A NEW MULTIMILLION-DOLLAR DEVELOPMENT. HERE'S MATT CHISHOLM. AND A WEE WARNING ` THE KIDS IN THIS STORY ARE SUPER CUTE. UPBEAT MUSIC THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I THINK THE RIDES ARE GONNA BE SUPERCALIFRAGILISTICEXPIALADOCIOUS. FAR OUT. THAT'S A MASSIVE WORD! WHERE DID YOU PULL THAT ONE OUT FROM? BOTH: SCHOOL. NO SCHOOL TODAY, THOUGH. ROOSTER, ARE YOU READY? CALAFRALICYONIC! YES! LET'S DO IT. UPBEAT MUSIC IT'S EVERY KID'S DREAM ` A FREE VISIT TO RAINBOW'S END. AND WHILE IT MAY BE RAINING CATS AND DOGS, FOR THESE UNDER-8S AT LEAST, THAT'S NO LONGER A PROBLEM. YOU'VE GOT A BIG CANOPY OUT THERE. WHY DID IT TAKE YOU 30 YEARS TO THINK OF THAT? I MEAN, IT RAINS A LOT IN AUCKLAND. WELL, WE NEEDED TO LET DUNEDIN GO FIRST, OF COURSE, WITH THEIR STADIUM. BUT, UM,... (LAUGHS) ...WE KNEW WE NEEDED TO PUT SOME COVER UP, AND IT WAS JUST GETTING THAT TIMING RIGHT. TIMING THAT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN ANY BETTER FOR JACK, VIOLET, GRACE AND WEE ROOSTER,... ARE WE STARTING TO FEEL A LITTLE BIT LUCKY? ALL: YESSSSS! ...WHO WE'VE ORGANISED TO TEST THE NEW RAIN-FREE KIDS' KINGDOM ` PRICE TAG: $3.7M. NOW, CHRIS, BE HONEST. DID YOU DO THIS BECAUSE IT'S BECOMING A BIT DRAB OUT HERE? UM, I THINK IN THE UNDER-8 MARKET, YES. FIRST UP ` A MINI ROLLER COASTER ` THE CHOCO EXPRESS ` WHICH WAS, WELL... BOTH: BREATHTAKING! BREATHTAKING? BOTH: YES! DOG TUCKER DAY OUTSIDE. WHAT WOULD VIOLET NORMALLY BE DOING ON A DAY LIKE THIS? SHE WOULD BE IN HER ROOM IN FRONT OF HER BIG DESK DOING ALL HER ARTS AND CRAFTS. HMM. SORRY, VIOLET, BUT SOUNDS A BIT DULL BY COMPARISON. WHEN YOU GO DOWN THERE, IT FEELS LIKE YOU'RE COMING DOWN FROM THE SKY, ALMOST. OR FROM THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS. THE MAGIC BIKES WERE UP NEXT. MAGIC, BUT NOT TOO DIFFERENT TO LIFE ITSELF, REALLY. PEDAL HARD AND FLY HIGH, JACK. THAT'S IT. IT WAS NOT AS BREATHTAKING, BUT PRETTY HIGH UP. BUT YOU DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE THAT YOU WERE HIGH UP. IT WAS A BUMMER, BUT THREE OF OUR FOUR KIDS STOOD, WELL, TOO HIGH UP FOR THE ROCKET RIDE. SOMETIMES IT'S GOOD TO BE SMALL, EH? YES. THE SURF AND SWING WASN'T TOO HARD TO FIGURE OUT, THOUGH. IT'S JUST KIND OF LIKE SURFING AND` BUT YOU'RE ON A SWING. RIGHT. AND ARE YOU GOING TO HAVE A GO OR WHAT? NO WAY. (LAUGHS) HOW COME? HAVE YOU SEEN THE STATE OF ME? (LAUGHS) CAN I ASK ` ARE YOU PREGNANT? I THINK SO. THAT OR TOO MUCH CHRISTMAS FOOD. BOTH LAUGH PHEW. THAT COULD HAVE BEEN AWKWARD. ROOSTER, HOW DID YOU ENJOY THE ROCKET SHIP? YEAH! HEAPS OF FUN. GUESS THAT'S THE END OF THAT INTERVIEW. (LAUGHS) UPBEAT MUSIC THE INDOOR FORTRESS OF FUN WAS INFECTIOUS. EPICALLY AWESOME! IT'S ALMOST LIKE A MAZE. I DON'T THINK I COULD FIT DOWN THERE. < MAN: GIVE IT A GO. (LAUGHS) (LAUGHS) GIVE IT A GO. YOU'RE A CHEEKY CAMERAMAN. CHEEKY AND HARD TO SAY NO TO. AFTER HOURS OF FUN, THE KIDS ` BOTH BIG AND SMALL ` ALL GAVE THE PLACE THE DOUBLE THUMBS UP. IF YOU WANTED TO COME AND JUST, YOU KNOW, NOT SEE THE KIDS FOR A DAY, IT WOULD BE A GOOD PLACE TO COME. BOTH LAUGH KIDS, HAVE YOU HAD ENOUGH? ARE YOU READY TO GO HOME? BOTH: NO! I WANT TO DO THE CAROUSEL, AND I WANT TO DO` AND I WANT TO DO SOMETHING` BUT, JACK` BUT, JACK, YOU'VE TIRED ME OUT, MATE. UM, I'D LIKE` I'D LIKE TO DO THE BUMPER CARS. WHO DO YOU THINK'S ENJOYED IT MORE ` MUM OR THE KIDS? I THINK IT'S YOU. ALL LAUGH That was his reward for treading water. THAT'S SEVEN SHARP FOR TONIGHT, BUT WE CAN'T LEAVE WITHOUT MARKING THE PASSING OF PARAKURA HOROMIA, WHO SERVED MAORI WITH PASSION FOR 14 YEARS.