ONE NEWS CAPTIONS BY JOHN LING AND JESSICA BOELL. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT TVNZ ACCESS SERVICES 2013 DUE TO THE LIVE NATURE OF SEVEN SHARP, WE APOLOGISE FOR THE LACK OF CAPTIONS FOR SOME ITEMS. HI. WELCOME TO THE SHOW. TONIGHT ` A PREGNANT PAUSE AND A BIT OF A QUESTION FOR YOU. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? CIGARETTES AND PREGNANT WOMEN GO TOGETHER LIKE DRINKING AND DRIVING. SO HOW DO PEOPLE HANDLE A WOULD-BE MUM WANTING A LIGHT? HIYA. UM, DO YOU HAVE A LIGHTER? THEN WHY A GODFATHER OF PUNK IS MARCHING TO A VERY DIFFERENT BEAT. BEETROOT'S A BIG THING. YOU KNOW,... CLEANS ALL YOUR INTERNAL ORGANS OUT. WE TALK TO THE BUZZCOCKS ABOUT ROOT VEGETABLES AND THE BIG HIT FOR ANOTHER BAND THAT THEY WROTE. ALSO, IT'S NZ MUSIC MONTH. SO WE BLEND A DOYEN WITH SOME DEBUTANTS. THEY'RE CALLED JOSEPH AND MAIA, HE'S CALLED DAVE DOBBYN, AND THIS IS CALLED SEVEN SHARP. 5000 KIWIS A YEAR DIE FROM SMOKING-RELATED DISEASE, BUT THIS IS STILL A FREE COUNTRY ISN'T IT? NO ONE REALLY BATS AN EYELID WHEN SMOKERS EXERCISE THEIR RIGHT TO STEP OUTSIDE TO GET THEIR FIX, BUT DO ATTITUDES CHANGE WHEN A PREGNANT WOMAN SMOKES? TONIGHT, CRAIG STANAWAY PUTS THAT ONE TO THE TEST IN OUR LATEST SOCIAL EXPERIMENT. RELAXING MUSIC IT'S THE PERFECT OASIS FOR A STRESSFUL DAY. MUSIC CONTINUES AND WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN WAYS OF DEALING WITH STRESS. MUSIC CONTINUES IF THERE'S ONE THING WE CAN ALL AGREE ON ` IT'S NEVER WISE TO UPSET A PREGNANT WOMAN. BUT WHAT WOULD YOU DO IF ONE CAME UP TO YOU ASKED YOU THIS: HIYA. DO YOU HAVE A LIGHTER? YEAH. HERE YOU GO. YEAH. COOL. THANK YOU. SUCCESS FIRST TIME. WHATEVER YOUR OPINION, LET'S CLEAR ONE THING UP BEFORE WE START. NO BABIES WERE POTENTIALLY HARMED DURING FILMING. DID YOU THINK IT WAS WEIRD THAT THE PREGNANT GIRL CAME UP AND ASKED YOU FOR A LIGHT? YES. YOU DID? YES. WE WERE GOING TO COMMENT, BUT IT'S NOT OUR BUSINESS. THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH SAYS MORE THAN 80% OF KIWIS ARE SMOKE-FREE, BUT ONE IN 10 NZ WOMEN DOES SMOKE DURING PREGNANCY, RAISING THE RISK OF COMPLICATIONS. LET'S DO IT AGAIN. HEY, GUYS, UM, DO YOU HAVE A LIGHTER, EITHER OF YOU? HE DOES. I HAD ONE, BUT I LEFT IT UP THERE. ALL RIGHT. ALL GOOD. THANKS. PARDON? YOU SHOULDN'T BE SMOKING, SHOULD YOU? OH. YEAH, STRESSFUL DAY. (CHUCKLES) HUH? STRESSFUL DAY. OH, OK. YEAH. PERHAPS SOMEONE WITH A CIGARETTE HAS GOT A LIGHTER. DO YOU HAVE A LIGHTER I COULD USE? THANK YOU. SO, WHY DID SHE GIVE HER A LIGHT? IT'S RUDE NOT TO. (CHUCKLES) AND WHY DIDN'T HE? I SAW SHE WAS PREGNANT AND SAID, 'YOU SHOULDN'T BE SMOKING, SHOULD YOU?' BUT,... YEAH. THE HEALTH MINISTRY WARNS THAT WHEN YOU SMOKE, SO DOES YOUR BABY. I DON'T KNOW THE EFFECTS ARE OF CIGARETTE SMOKE ON UNBORN BABIES, BUT, YEAH, IT CAN'T BE GOOD. CIGARETTES CONTAIN 4000 CHEMICALS. THE BABY GETS A HIGHER DOSE OF TOXINS THAN ITS MUM. I NOTICED THAT SHE WAS SMOKING, AND I THOUGHT, 'I WISH YOU WOULDN'T SMOKE, BECAUSE YOU LOOK ABOUT SIX MONTHS PREGNANT. 'AND I JUST WISH YOU'D PUT THAT CIGARETTE OUT.' I FELT LIKE SAYING THAT TO HER, BUT I THOUGHT SHE'D PROBABLY KICK ME IF I INTERFERE, AND IT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS. THIS GUY YOU SAW EARLIER WAS THE ONLY PERSON TO QUESTION HER DURING THE THREE-HOUR EXPERIMENT. I GUESS IT'S` YOU KNOW, I COULD HAVE SAID SOMETHING AND BEEN QUITE BLUNT, BUT I SORT OF THOUGHT, 'WELL, IS IT MY PLACE TO DO THAT?' DO ANY OF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A LIGHTER? NO. I'M SORRY. NO. OK. WE DON'T LOOK LIKE A SMOKING COUPLE ` AN OLD COUPLE LIKE US LIKE US, DO WE? (LAUGHS) I TOLD HER TO GO AND RUB TWO TWIGS TOGETHER. IT WOULD BE BETTER THE OLD-FASHIONED WAY. SHE MAY'VE GOT THE BRUSH OFF FROM THEM. IN THIS INSTANCE, THOUGH, SHE DIDN'T EVEN HAVE TO ASK. YEAH. IS THAT ALL RIGHT? THANK YOU. CHEERS. MY FRIENDS SMOKED WHEN THEY WERE PREGNANT. WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT? IT IS BAD, BUT IF SHE WANTS TO DO IT, SHE CAN DO IT. EVERY TIME WE CONDUCTED THE EXPERIMENT, OUR ACTRESS GOT A LIGHT. INITIALLY, I WAS A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED, YOU KNOW, IN THIS DAY AND AGE, WITH EVERYTHING THAT WE KNOW, BUT, UM, YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANT TO BE ONE TO CAST JUDGEMENT, SO... SO THAT LEAVES US WITH AN OBVIOUS QUESTION: IF HE WAS SURPRISED, WERE YOU? PROFESSOR MARC WILSON FROM VICTORIA UNIVERSITY'S SCHOOL OF PSYCHOLOGY IS HERE. WHAT WOULD YOU DO? I would not have given her light. I think it's a bad thing for a pregnant woman to smoke. I also don't smoke, so don't have a light. ARE THOSE TWO THINGS LINKED? If you send people out into a place of non-smokers, she will not get the lights. There's a thing called cognitive dissonance which is when you are told to think about things that don't fit together. New Zealanders hate confrontation. I think it's different then when there is domestic violence involved. We can't see the consequences of letting this happen. People think it's a matter of choice. IT'S impinging on their decision. Do you think this experiment would have been different if it was done in America? I don't think so. We know that people's attitudes aren't consistent with their behaviour. Only one person asked the question. People aren't afraid to give their opinions on Facebook and Twitter. It's different when it is anonymous. May be counter-productive. We talkEd to a doctor at the University. There is something called smoke-free pummelling, where people go up and abuse smokers. In the context of this shock advertising, where we show people unpleasant images of what happens when they smoke, should people who want to say something but can't bring themselves to feel better about themselves? There is evidence that doesn't help. You do what you want, but I'm not going to be a part of helping You do it. AFTER THE BREAK ` MY WRAP UP OF THE WEEK'S NEWS. PLUS, MARGARITAS AT MIDDAY ` IT'S SO ROCK AND ROLL. BUT THIS BUZZCOCK IS ALL ABOUT THE PUNK. AND THE GODFATHER OF NZ MUSIC'S COMING IN TO TALK MUSIC MONTH AND NEW TALENT. I OFTEN THINK HAVING A NZ MUSIC LEGEND IN STUDIO DURING THE SECOND BREAK IS A GOOD IDEA, SO WE HAVE ONE DAVE DOBBYN WHO WE'LL BE TALKING TO SHORTLY. IN THE LATE '70S, BRITISH PUNK BANDS WERE MADE UP OF ANGRY YOUNG MEN AND WOMEN WHO HATED EVERYTHING. FAST-FOWARD TO 2013 AND ONE OF PUNK'S FIGUREHEADS IS TOURING HERE AND KEEN TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT A BIG SONG BY ANOTHER VERY UN-PUNK BAND IS ACTUALLY THEIRS. DEAN BUTLER DECIDED HE NEVER MINDED THE BUZZCOCKS. # FAR AWAY IN MY... HEAD. ONE OF THE GREAT BANDS FROM THE PUNK ERA WERE THE BUZZCOCKS. THEY'VE JUST TOURED NZ, AND BEFORE THEY LEFT, I CAUGHT UP WITH STEVE DIGGLE. YES, IT'S 2.30 IN THE AFTERNOON AND THAT IS INDEED A MARGARITA. I ASKED STEVE HOW IT ALL BEGAN. IN 1976, WE STARTED TWO DAYS BEFORE THE CLASH. WE'D SEEN THE SEX PISTOLS IN LONDON. THEN WE BROUGHT THE SEX PISTOLS TO MANCHESTER. YOU GUYS DID THAT?! YEP. # JUST ONE LOVER LIKE ANY OTHER. WHAT DO I CARE? I HAD SOME QUESTIONS FROM THE FANS FOR STEVE. READS: WHAT'S IT LIKE HAVING A NAME LIKE A ROOSTER? PLATO SAID IF YOU GIVE THE NAME OF SOMETHING, THEREFORE IT GIVES A MEANING TO WHAT IT IS. SOME DEEP THINKING THERE. SO, WHAT DOES HE THINK OF X FACTOR? WELL, THEY'VE ERADICATED THE FULL RICH HISTORY OF MUSIC. STEVE ALSO HAS A SECRET TO STAYING HEALTHY IN THE MUSIC BIZ. BEETROOT'S A BIG THING. YEAH? IT CLEANS ALL YOUR INTERNAL ORGANS OUT. GOOD FOR YOUR SKIN FROM THE INSIDE OUT. OK, WELL, I'LL PASS THAT ON. AND THEN YOU CAN GO OUT AND GET WRECKED ON EVERY SINGLE ONE. ANOTHER ONE OF THEIR HITS WAS 'I DON'T MIND'. BUT DOES STEVE MIND THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK THEIR BIGGEST HIT IS ACTUALLY SUNG BY ROLAND GIFT FROM THE FINE YOUNG CANNIBALS? # FALLEN IN LOVE. LOVING SOMEONE YOU'VE JUST FALLEN IN LOVE WITH. ROLAND WENT TO COLLEGE WITH MY BROTHER, SO WHEN MY BROTHER CAME HOME FROM COLLEGE, HE'D NICK ALL THE SINGLES THAT THE RECORD COMPANY HAD GIVEN ME. SO HE WAS SPOON-FED THOSE, AND MAYBE THAT'S WHY HE DID THAT VERSION, YEAH. BUT THE BUZZCOCKS AREN'T ALONE. THERE'S HEAPS OF BANDS THAT HAVE COVER VERSIONS MORE FAMOUS THAN THE ORIGINAL. YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT WHITNEY HOUSTON... # I WILL ALWAYS... # ...LOVE YOU. OH, I... ...WAS ACTUALLY A DOLLY PARTON SONG. AND HOW ABOUT JOAN JETT? # I LOVE ROCK 'N' ROLL. # SO PUT ANOTHER DIME IN THE DUKEBOX, BABY. SURELY NOT? YEP. # ...AND DANCE WITH ME. Interesting how he's kept his haircut from the 1970s. They pay me to cut my hair. Used to play at Windsor Castle in Parnell. These to be a lot of punks out on the streets chasing each other. But we were tame compared to that. The recordings now are really polished. Let's talk about your tour. Do you think Dave Dobbyn is taken as a username? You might have to be Dave Dobbyn 14 or something What's put you off Twitter? I have facebook. This is his tour, and it's called stories all the new. I don't know if you can see who was performing on this leg of the tour There are a bunch of artists. Are they doing your songs? Yes. I'm hoping scribe will rap. In Auckland, we've got another bunch of artists. When and where is it? May 11. Masterson is a great town to play in. I love my provincial life. IT'S FRIDAY NIGHT AND THE END OF A BUSY WEEK. JESSE'S BEEN PAYING ATTENTION JUST IN CASE YOU HAVEN'T. WELL, PLENTY OF BAD BEHAVIOUR THIS WEEK, WITH AARON GILMORE ACTING LIKE THE UNCLE THAT DRINKS TOO MUCH AT CHRISTMAS AND KEN BARLOW LIKE THE UNCLE THAT SENDS YOU LETTERS FROM PRISON. SPEAKING OF GILMORE, THE HOTEL SAYS THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FILE A COMPLAINT, BUT THEY HAVE GOT A PLAN IN CASE HE EVER COMES BACK. HMM, IT'S ALWAYS THE QUIET TYPES, ISN'T IT? MIND YOU, THERE WAS THAT ONE TIME IN PARLIAMENT LAST WEEK WHEN SOMEONE TRIED TO STEAL HIS LAMINGTON. IN OTHER NEWS, TVNZ REVEALED THE OTHER TWO CANDIDATES FOR THE RACE RELATIONS CONCILIATOR AND HOW THEY BOTH CAME UNDONE WHEN THEY TRIED TO SIGN WHEN THEY TRIED TO SIGN THE CONTRACT. AND IT WAS ALL GO AT THE WORLD MOUSTACHE AND BEARD COMPETITION. YES, I KNOW WHAT YOU WANT ME TO SAY, BUT IT'S FAR TOO SOON FOR THAT. FINALLY, K2 WILL BE BANNED FROM NEXT WEEK. THE GOVERNMENT SAYS IT'S DANGEROUS, MIND-ALTERING, HALLUCINOGENIC, BUT YOU KNOW ALL KIWIS ARE GONNA HEAR IS 'SALE ENDS THURSDAY; TIME TO STOCKPILE.' AFTER THE BREAK, WE HEAD TO THE OTHER END OF THE MUSICAL EXPERIENCE SPECTRUM WITH JOSEPH AND MAIA. MUSIC PLAYS MAY IS NZ MUSIC MONTH, SO FOR THE NEXT FOUR FRIDAYS WE'LL BE SHOWCASING TALENTED KIWI MUSICIANS YOU PROBABLY HAVEN'T HEARD OF YET. TONIGHT IT'S JOSEPH AND MAIA WHO'VE JUST SIGNED A RECORD DEAL WITH SONY AND ARE TOTES THE NEXT BIG THING. HOW DID YOU TWO GET TOGETHER? WE ACTUALLY MET IN SCHOOL, AND WE HAVE KNOWN EACH OTHER FOR A LONG TIME. I wrote the music and Maia made the song a lot better, so it fell into place the harmonies are lovely. IS folk your thing? We love all music. Absolutely all music. If you look at our iTunes list, it's very scattered. I can see both rapping. Definitely. Dave Dobbyn, he did all this before Facebook and Twitter. Is the advice just to tour, tour, tour? Yes. There is an audience that you need to play to. That's very important. I think you'll be surprised that there is surprising amount of people who like simple. The thing that's changed is that the people like Joseph and Maia, a proper music career is a very reachable goal. I was just at Windsor Castle filming for another TV show, and I grew up with the Dudes. We charge 4 dollars a night for a set. At the end of the night, we got $400. Mainly, it was just a joy of play music. We don't really care about business. You guys openEd up Rodriguez recently. 2000 people? I don't know the numbers. But he was full of advice. He said "you got two things that people don't have. You have a product and service. "Most people only have one. You have both of them." If you listen to our EP, it's about how we are obsessed with travelling. Dave, what are your thoughts about staying here and doing this versus going overseas? Travelling is exciting. At another time scale entirely. There is something very liberating about it in that he can throw all your energies into a show and making music. One of Dave's biggest hit was welcome home. I think that gave it away. IF YOU WANT TO SEE A VERY SLICK ACOUSTIC PERFORMANCE OF JOSEPH AND MAIA OR WANT TO SEE MORE OF DEAN'S CHAT WITH THE BUZZCOCKS, IT'S ON OUR WEBSITE, # LIKE THAT BLONDE-HEADED BOY YOU'RE ALWAYS BUSY DREAMIN' # BUT WE'RE NOT KIDS ANY MORE, # PLAYING IN THE RAIN. # SOMETHING WAS BOUND TO CHANGE. # IS THERE NOTHING I CAN DO TO LET ME HOLD YOU IN MY ARMS ANY MORE? # AIN'T THERE SOMETHING YOU CAN SAY # THAT'LL MAKE ME CHANGE MY WAYS? # NOW CHANGES IN MY MIND - A SORT OF SOLITARY SPACE, # WHERE IT'S JUST ME, MYSELF AND I IN A HEATED DEBATE