I remember being on the phone to the 111 call and just saying, 'He's not breathing. He's not breathing.' 'He's not breathing.' Tonight on 20/20 ` they're there when you need them most. I remember the ambulance officer saying to me, 'It's OK. We're gonna get him there alive.' Eli was hospitalised 40 times in two years. They were there for us, without fail. I'm going on to become a paramedic. I want to be able to do that for someone else. She wore killer high-heels. He had a shoe fetish. He would like for me to step on him. She killed with high heels. More than two dozen stab wounds to his head, face and neck, all from the heel of Anna's blue velvet stilettos. But was it murder? 10 seasons on air, the hospital drama that just won't die. We're just celebrating up a storm. We're just celebrating up a storm. Whoo-hoo! We're just celebrating up a storm. Whoo-hoo! Yes! And 10 million followers. Jamie's World continues to grow. Do you remember this? My goal is a million subscribers on YouTube. Fail if I don't get that. (LAUGHS) Kia ora, I'm Sonya Wilson. They arrive with sirens blaring. They're faces without names taking you to hospital. Chances are, you'll never see them again. Unless, of course, you're mum Debi Piper. For two years, St John's Ambulance were often the difference between life and death for her little boy, Eli. During those terrifying times, a bond was formed, sending Debi on a journey she hoped she'd never take and awakening a passion she never knew she had. Here's Emma Keeling with the story. TENSE MUSIC Eli's grandparents are on the phone. They don't know if he can hear them, but they wanted to say goodbye. Without St John's Ambulance, Eli wouldn't have made it this far. Is this it? Is this the one that ends it? The only sort of support you have, you know that ambulance is on the way. SIREN WAILS Two years of endless close calls. They were there for us at every beck and call, without fail, many times. They were the difference between us getting a chance to say goodbye properly and not. And I'm just... so grateful for that. For mum Debi Piper, St John went from being her child's only hope to her greatest inspiration. To see my own son fighting for his life and being able to help him and instruct others on how to help him until the` until the ambulance arrived, it made me realise, 'Hey, I can do this.' And Eli showed me that. COLDPLAY'S 'MAGIC' When Debi was pregnant with her fourth child, doctors said he wouldn't survive. He wasn't gonna make it, and they were really clear on that. Um, so with that information, we made the choice not to play God. It wasn't our job. So we made the choice to carry on and let nature take its course, which it did. Against the odds, Eli took his first breath. # Call it magic. # But because of his rare chromosome condition, every day would be a fight. Only 1% make it beyond their first year of life. Him, he was only a day old, and looking at him on the machine and looking at his features and thinking, 'Oh my gosh. I've done the wrong thing.' I thought I was actually being cruel. Um... I felt so guilty, and then I felt guilty for feeling guilty, and you just go in this vicious cycle. But it was one, basically, medical emergency after another for the first few months. Good boy. Good boy. (YELPS) Eli was always on oxygen. Breathing problems and life-threatening seizures were common. St John was Eli's lifeline. We'll send an ambulance as soon as possible. I remember being on the phone to the 111 call and... panicking, you know. Just saying, 'He's not breathing. He's not breathing.' And them just assuring me, 'He's gonna breathe. When the seizure finishes, he will breathe.' What was the patient's name? The ambulance will be with you as soon as they can. I had been trained on medications to give him and, you know, so I did everything that I knew to do, but sometimes that wasn't enough. Eli was hospitalised 40 times in two years. Debi would dial 111, and paramedics like Stephen Potter would arrive. SIREN WAILS He was particularly special. When we get the call and it was Eli again, we knew the family quite well. We'd established a relationship with him, cos been to Eli several times. Quite often you'd get a same crew. Um, they would know the address. They would go, 'Oh, Eli,' when they come in. 'What's up this time?' The family's lives revolved around Eli's care, but there were good times. Can you see Eli in the clouds, Abi? We didn't see him as disabled. We knew he was sick. We knew he` you know, that stuff was going on, but we didn't treat him that way. We didn't let that stop us any more than it needed to. POIGNANT MUSIC A favourite place to go with dad Shane, sister Abigail and half-brothers Michael and Daniel was Kariotahi Beach. What makes this beach so special to you and the family? It's just the place where Eli gets to experience new and different things. You know, cooped up inside all day usually, with not a lot of opportunity to go out. But when you come here, the wind's blowing. You get him out, and the wind hits his face and it lights up. It's a whole new sensation for him, you know, and you've got the sound of the waves, and the feel of the water, and the sand on his feet. However, Eli's health was always deteriorating. You think that looks fun there? For dad Shane, he never knew when that dreaded phone call might come. Every day you go off to work, and you don't know what's going to happen, do you? No, we didn't, and you sort of become a bit immune to it once it happens over and over and over. But knowing the things Debi had been through with Eli and the training that she had gotten and also knowing that the St John's guys were just on the other end of the phone definitely made it a bit easier. Finally, the time came in July last year when Eli took a nasty turn. Debi reached for the phone. KEY PAD BEEPS She sounds calm. But somehow Debi knew this would be Eli's last trip. SIREN WAILS I knew how serious it was, and as soon as they arrived, I lost my ability to stay` I didn't lose control, but I lost my ability to speak. It had already been discussed that he wouldn't be resuscitated. So I knew he was dying in front of me, and I knew there was... even when help arrived, there wasn't a lot they were going to be able to do. You were on your own, as your husband, Shane, was at work? Shane was at work, and I had all the kids. So I was texting Shane and telling him, 'You've got to meet us at the hospital. 'I don't even think he's going to make it.' And I just remember the ambulance officer saying to me ` she was amazing ` she just said to me, 'It's OK. We're going to get him there alive.' She said as long as we keep breathing for him, his heart's not going to stop, um, because the breathing stops first. MONITOR BEEPS Eli hung on for three more days. On what would be his final night, his mum was there, holding him. It got to about 7 in the morning, and I knew we didn't have a lot of time. I just told him` I said, 'Daddy's going to be here soon. Daddy's going to be here soon.' And he just kept his eyes open, and he started looking towards the door. He was just waiting. And then just before 8, Shane arrived and we, you know` we just cuddled with him, and then he just breathed his last few breaths and we were all there. It was so special. I'll never forget. And I'm so glad that... it was able to be a beautiful experience, rather than something so traumatic. # I can only imagine # what it will be like # when I walk # by your side. At the funeral, big brother Michael sang this song. # When that day comes, # and I find myself, Eli was only 2 years old. The butterfly now is, for us, our symbol of Eli. He is that butterfly now. You know, you're finally free from that confine of his body and now he's soaring. # I can only imagine. # After the break, life after Eli. And Debi gets the chance to say thank you. Hi, Steve. Hi, Steve. Lovely to see you. 1 It's been eight months since Eli's funeral, and there's still a hole in the Piper family where he used to be. But something has changed - mum Debi has new purpose. When you breathe, just make sure that you breathe out here. When you breathe, just make sure that you breathe out here. OK. Today she's at a first aid course, and it's all thanks to Eli. I'm going on to become a paramedic. I decided not long after his funeral that that's what I wanted to do. Um,... it would be such a waste to have gone through that two years and have learnt so much and have experienced so much. And he taught me that I am so much stronger than I realised, and that when things get really tough and things get really scary, that I can do it. One, two, three, four, five. I haven't done any study since school, so it's a bit overwhelming, but I'm excited to be studying. So there's probably a bit more excitement than nerves? So there's probably a bit more excitement than nerves? There's more excitement. Especially being in there in the class today and being in the face of it. It's... I can't wait to start doing that. It's scary stuff. She'll be going from working in accountancy to possibly saving lives. But that's how much St John has inspired her. There was a couple of ambulance officers that just` I bonded with so much and they made such a difference, and they made it so much easier than it needed to be, and I want to be able to do that for someone else. So how do you thank people who have given you so much? Well, we've organised a reunion with Debi's two faves ` Stephen and Deb. Hey. Hi, Steve. Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. I recognise you. Lovely to see you. I recognise you. Wow. It's good to see you again. Paramedic Deb was there for Eli's final trip to hospital. You said to me, 'It's OK. We're gonna get there to see Dad, because little ones like this, their hearts are good.' Just that one sentence changed everything in that moment, and that's awesome. Thank you. Often ambulance crews saw Eli at his worst, so Debi's brought photos of happier times. An ambulance features already. An ambulance features already. Of course. I think 2 weeks old, his first ambulance trip. You got to see him so often. You got to see him so often. Yeah, yeah. It's a unique situation when you get to do that. Yeah, and not just you heaps of crews. How did they help you? > How did they help you? > They were just so sensitive to the situation. They kept it light-hearted when it could be light-hearted and just took the stress out of things. Debi's training starts in July, but she wants to learn now, so we've sorted an observation spot for her on Stephen's shift. Deb's all fired up, ready to go. Deb's all fired up, ready to go. Yes. Deb's all fired up, ready to go. Yes. Sleepless night? Yep, I couldn't sleep, excited, ready to go, so... Yeah, that happens when you're new. Sat there a few times, haven't you? Sat there a few times, haven't you? Yes, it's nice to be on board without the patient ` without my patient. They used to talk about all sorts of things as they travelled with Eli to hospital. I can remember when I was new I would be sitting there looking at the pager and thinking through every possible scenario I was gonna come across, and how I was gonna deal with that. So many trips. It's not surprising a bond was formed. Deb, when Eli passed away you wrote to Stephen. Why was that? Um, I just felt it was really important just to` I wanted to let them know what an impact they actually had on us and on our journey. Steve, you weren't there on that final journey, so you had no idea until you got that letter. I guess I was quite sad to hear that he'd died. We bring patients here, we drop them off and we don't hear any more. We kinda say goodbye in hospital. That's the end of it. We don't even know how well they recover or... so to be able to hear other parts of the story and hear the impact that we have is` yeah, it's really neat to have that feedback. SIREN WAILS Through the day, Debi is hands-on,... And long ago did you take those? ...taking in all she can. Will she make a good paramedic, do you think? I think so. I think you need three things to do well in this place ` you need a willingness to learn, you need a good attitude and you need some common sense. The pain's there when he takes a deep breath or coughs. And from the time I've spent with Debi, she certainly appears to have that. And I think it will stand her in good stead, and she'll go a long way. It's time to take Debi home ` if we can drag her away. You can leave your jacket on a little bit longer, it's OK. > You can leave your jacket on a little bit longer, it's OK. > It's mine. (LAUGHS) > (LAUGHS) > My precious UPLIFTING MUSIC Debi is determined to become a paramedic. Her boy Eli showed her the way. Is it times like this you feel closer to him, as the memories are vivid? Yep. Yep. Last time we came down here, we were walking along this beach and we just started drawing in the sand and always now we just seem to draw butterflies, which is what we remember him by. It's a really really precious place for us to come now. She's excited about the future, but she knows there will come a time when she's truly tested. I really am afraid of that first time I come across a 2-year-old boy in respiratory distress and seeing the faces of those parents, knowing exactly what they're feeling and thinking and... But I just hope that when I'm in that situation, I can be that voice that Debbie the paramedic was for me, and reassuring them that it's gonna be OK. That we're going to get them there. Debi, you'll be amazing. We wish you all the very best. Next up on 20/20 ` a murder that gives new meaning to the term 'killer heels'. Houston has some crazy, crazy crime. And this is one of the craziest things that I think a lot of us have ever seen. In a town infamous for women who kill in crimes of passion, Andrea Pia Yates, guilty. Clara Harris, guilty. Susan Lucille Wright, guilty. the proceedings in a Houston court room this week may have set a new standard for strangeness. When you hear of someone dying, especially a brutal death, they're being shot, stabbed. But no one ever thinks there's gonna be a stiletto heel in the middle of it, right? Welcome back. A Texas jury has just returned a verdict in one of the most sensational cases Houston has ever seen. Ana Trujillo was charged with murder after stabbing her boyfriend, university professor Stefan Andersson, to death with a stiletto high heel after a night of drinking. Trujillo, who has claimed all along that she was acting in self-defence, speaks exclusively to 20/20. A woman accused of killing a man with her stiletto heel... Ana Trujillo is being held here... Testimony is still going on... Prosecutor Sarah Mickelson demonstrated to the jury... ...about 10 puncture wounds to the head. Houston has some crazy, crazy crime. And this is one of the craziest things that I think a lot of us have ever seen. In a town infamous for women who kill in crimes of passion,... Andrea Pia Yates, guilty. Clara Harris, guilty. Susan Lucille Wright, guilty. ...the proceedings in a Houston courtroom this week may have set a new standard for strangeness. When you hear of someone dying, especially a brutal death, they're being shot, stabbed. But no one ever thinks there's gonna be a stiletto heel in the middle of it, right? Yes, whoever heard of assault by deadly footwear? The crime scene ` a ritzy condo in this high-end high-rise. And the accused ` a petite, soft-spoken mum looking at life in prison, telling her story exclusively to 20/20. It's very surreal. It feels like it happened to someone else, and I'm just watching it. Born in Mexico, Ana Trujillo came to America with dreams of making it big. Married twice, the mother of two young girls, she was a striking, vibrant, young woman who was once the host of a community access show and called herself Ana Fox. Thank you for joining me and enjoying ourselves. The producer said I had a bubbly personality. Is that who you are? That TV host with that bubbly personality? Yes, I am, actually. I am usually very optimistic. I love life. I love friends. And I just believe in being me. But those big dreams jumped the track as she landed on the hard side of town. Jim Carroll met her at the Londale Hotel, where they both once lived. What was she like? What was she like? She laughed a lot. I mean, she was really cool. She'd just talk about spirituality and the pyramids and ghosts and the tarot. She was a drifter, floating from job to job, wishing for the right things, attracted to the wrong people. She brought several men to the hotel. And finally I started talking to her. I says, 'We can't have none of that business going on here.' And how many men would you estimate this was? Four to six men. One of them was the professor. His name, Stefan Andersson. A naturalized citizen from Sweden, who worked at the university of Houston as a medical researcher. Tell me about him. Tell me about him. Well, he was very charming. He had a beautiful, young spirit. He was a professor, and I really` that is really what attracted me. How did he treat you in the beginning? Oh, he was wonderful. In the beginning, it was all so carefree. Here at the local taco shop, Bodegas, they were regulars. And his friend Adam Benjamin remembers the early days of their romance. You can see Stefan right there. So, what was Stefan's taste in women? Stefan liked attractive women. And heels with nice legs. But he didn't have girlfriends or anything like that. Why do you think he felt so connected to Ana? She was a bad girl. It's` Opposites attract. Within weeks, she'd moved on up to his deluxe apartment in the sky. You wanted to marry him. You wanted to marry him. Yes. He wanted to marry you. He wanted to marry you. Yes. It wasn't all about love. It was also about sex, kinky sex. Trujillo claims her man had a thing for shoes, and she was happy to oblige. What did he want you to do? What did he want you to do? He had a shoe fetish. He will like for me to, kind of, step on him. Step on him? Step on him? Well, walk on him. He liked a little bit of pain. But just months after they met, that happily ever after began to wear thin. His drinking started concerning me. I didn't know what it was to be with, I say, an alcoholic. He drank a lot. Um, but he didn't seem to be an angry drunk. He seemed like a troubled and gentle soul. A troubled soul who, according to Ana, had a hidden dark side. He was super sweet and nice, and all of a sudden, out of nowhere, he would just turn into this other person. He would start accusing me of things. Like what? Like what? 'Why did you leave me? How come you didn't take me with you?' What would you do, when he did this? What would you do, when he did this? I would not provoke him. I would just be quiet. Did other people know about this side of him? Did other friends see him like this? He hid it really well. It was a hot summer night last June when Ana and Stefan go out for a night at Club 5015. They share a bottle of wine chased by a few shots of tequila ` in this case, a combustible mix. That place has live music on the weekends. It gets really crowded, and it's a different crowd, and it's nice, and he liked it. He was feeling really good, and he was enjoying himself. Ana is dressed to kill in her five and a half inch blue velvet stilettos. I had the huge high heels that he loved for me to wear. It made you happy to buy a stiletto that he liked. I had to be very careful because the shoes were so high. Surveillance videos at the restaurant paint a portrait of a good-time girl. Take a look as she flirts with a stranger at the bar, then does a sexy chair dance. At first, she and Stefan seem to be having a great night out. But by the time she is ready to leave, he is not. I was leaving early in the morning to see my daughter. I wanted to leave and not stay out very long, and he kept wanting to stay longer. That decision to go home is the spark, she says, that will ignite a firestorm. Still, the last images captured at the nightclub show Stefan, calm, as he leaves the bar with Ana. Was he wasted by the time you got to the cab? Was he wasted by the time you got to the cab? Yeah. As the cab pulls up, Rosemary Gomez was at the wheel, accompanied by her husband. I was just taking a fare like I normally do. As the couple approaches the cab, Reagan Cannon said Ana was loud and abusive. She tells him, 'Go get a ...ing cab.' You know? In Ana's version of the story, it's Stefan who was getting aggressive. You say he starts getting agitated. I just remember him looking at me... angry. Angry from Ana's point of view, but not from the front seat, where Reagan Cannon has some advice for the shy professor. I said, 'Are you a man or a mouse? Come on, dude, what are you doin' letting her talk to you like that?' It is past 2 in the morning when the taxi drops them off at Dr Andersson's pad. You had a funny feeling something was gonna happen. He squeezed my hand. He said, 'No, I'll be OK.' And I told him, I said, 'I just have a feeling something's gonna happen.' Look at these photos ` coming home from the bar, walking calmly to the elevator. It was the last time Andersson was seen alive. But Ana claims he was on the verge of a murderous rage. All of a sudden, he just turns around and has a complete different look on him. Angry. As the couple sets foot inside the apartment, her life was about to change irreversibly, and his is about to end. He starts to pull me. I still have my shoes on. So, he grabs me by my hands. He bangs me against the wall. He kept saying I was going to leave him; I wasn't coming back. He's screaming and yelling and ranting and just, 'I saw the way you were looking at those guys.' When he threw me over the couch, and I fell completely backwards, and my head hit, I saw black. Did you feel like your life was in danger at that point? Did you feel like your life was in danger at that point? Yes. In the darkness, she reaches for the only weapon she could find ` one of those blue stilettos ` and starts striking. When I reach down to feel him and you feel blood in your hands, that is a horror of someone you love. And that` that I did it. Accidentally I did it. I didn't even know he was bleeding. He wouldn't stop. Nothing is facing them. He's unstoppable. After the break, high heels and tall stories. What will the jury think ` murder or self-defence? Did the mild-mannered professor attack his girlfriend in a drunken, jealous rage? She talked about being smothered at one point. He was grabbing her. That's when she started hitting him with a shoe. But it's the murder weapon itself ` that $29 stiletto shoe ` that could come to Ana's rescue. It's not a gun. It's not a knife. It's not the typical thing someone would use to kill someone. So that could help the defence in saying, 'She just grabbed whatever she could.' With the evidence mounting against her, Ana is thinking about taking the stand. Are you confident enough that the confession that I did on tape is enough? If I put you on the stand, they can go ahead and, you know, ask you about certain things in your life that may have happened. Welcome back. There must be something in the water in Texas, as it seems to have more than its fair share of female murderers. But even in Texas, the 'killer heels' case stood out. So was this a crazed attack by an angry woman or an act of self-defence with fatal consequences? PENSIVE MUSIC When Houston police received Ana Trujillo's desperate 911 call, they raced to her boyfriend's high-rise condo and walked into a slaughterhouse. The crime-scene photos in this case were especially gruesome ` the blood spatter, the victim still lying there. It was a tragedy, and it was horrible. The hallway was streaked with blood. The deceased, medical researcher Stefan Andersson barely recognizable from more than two dozen stab wounds to his head, face and neck, all from the heel of Ana's blue velvet stilettos. Stefan's hair still stuck to the heel. And on a glass table nearby, a macabre sign ` Trujillo's book of tarot, turned to the picture of death. Instantly, the police officer was suspicious. He just yelled at me and took his gun out and he told me to` to get down on the ground. SOBBING: I thought they were there to help us. Millions of officers showed up, and where was the ambulance? Ana tells police Andersson had attacked her, that she killed him in self-defence. She was drenched in blood. Police bring her in for questioning. And Ana gives a rambling, disjointed statement that includes little about the actual killing. It's a meandering, sort of, 'my life up till now' three-hour tape in which she talks about what actually happened the night of very briefly. The cops have heard enough. They put her under arrest. (SOBS) You said you were such a fool. Why? You said you were such a fool. Why? They're blaming me; they're telling me that I killed him. SOBS: I am not a murderer! She is booked, posts bail and is put under house arrest. But as the countdown to trial begins, Houston was riveted. The murder weapon is a five-and-a-half-inch heel... ...for stabbing her boyfriend to death. And it was a bloody scene. Each day, new allegations surfaced about the violence in her past. Brian Goodney, a former friend, remembers a startling attack. Walk her to the door, turn around to open the door and get hit on the back of the head with a candlestick. < That was the last thing you remembered? < That was the last thing you remembered? She knocked me out. And remember the Londale Hotel where her friend Jim Carroll once lived? He told the most jaw-dropping tale of all. She told me that if anybody ever messed with her, she pulled her shoe off, she said, 'I'll get 'em with this,' and it was a big stiletto heel. The trial began last week in a burst of lights, camera and bravado. Feeling confident? Feeling confident? Do I look like I'm scared? From the beginning, prosecutors pull no punches, focusing the jury on that killer heel ` really the star witness in this case. Over and over, they demonstrate the brutality of the crime. In trial, we saw an x-ray of the shoe. To the naked eye it just looks like a cobalt blue stiletto high heel. But once you saw that x-ray, it looked like an ice hammer. He had 10 puncture wounds on his head; 15 to 20 around his neck, face, and arms. That is excessive for a lot of people. Excessive? What he was doing to me? He was enraged. He hit me on the head with my own shoe. Even though his case is far from a slam dunk, Ana's attorney, Jack Carroll, still seemed confident. Was Ana justified in her actions that night? What the evidence says... Whether she hit him once, hit him 25 times, or 100 times, if she felt her life was in danger, the jury can't convict. To prove the case, Carroll had to convince the jury that Andersson flew into a violent rage at his apartment. These photos, taken 48 hours after the murder, show bruises, but it wasn't clear when she got them. The defence wanted to portray her as a victim and as someone who only did this because she had to. Remember that surveillance video from the apartment? The last images of Andersson alive? He seems calm and collected, but his blood alcohol is almost twice the legal limit. I think we've all seen people that drink a lot and, you know, act one way in public and then go home and they act another way. Ana was alone in Stefan Andersson's apartment. And he went off the deep end. Did the mild-mannered professor attack his girlfriend in a drunken, jealous rage? She talked about being smothered at one point, and he was grabbing her. That's when she started hitting with the shoe. But it's the murder weapon itself ` that $29 stiletto shoe ` that could come to Ana's rescue. It's not a gun. It's not a knife. It's not the typical thing someone would use to kill someone. So that could help the defence in saying she just grabbed whatever she could. With the evidence mounting against her, Ana is thinking about taking the stand. Are you confident enough that the confession that I did on tape is enough? If I put you on the stand, then they can go ahead and, you know, ask you about certain things in your life that may have happened. But at the last minute, she decides it's too risky. And with her fate hanging in the balance, Ana prepares her daughter, Siana, for the possibility that she may be heading to prison. We have to be prepared for what's to come. They might have a conviction. I just want to tell you I love you very much. It's gonna be fine. You worry too much. On the morning of April 6th, the sun rose over a perfect spring day in Houston. Closing arguments in the Trujillo case were about to begin. It won't be until your just verdict that she ceases to be the Stiletto Stabber. And she will then forever be Ana Trujillo, murderer. But the defence argued she was fighting for her life. As long as she reasonably fears for the threat of serious bodily injury, or death, she's justified. After less than two hours of deliberation, the verdict was swift and unequivocal. We, the jury, find the defendant, Ana Trujillo, guilty of murder as charged in the indictment. She's now a convicted murderer, sentenced just this afternoon to life in prison. And though that shoe may fit, she still refuses to wear it. We all have opinions of what we would or wouldn't do, or why, or how, but when you find yourself in a situation, you don't know either, because it's the situation. You don't know what you're going to do when that happens? You don't know what you're going to do when that happens? You think you do, but you don't. In spite of all of that, you loved him. I love him, and I'm mourning, and I'm in sad, and I'm in pain. And I have no closure. And... it's not my fault. Do you believe her? Let us know what you think of that one on our Facebook page. Next up on 20/20, though, Grey's Anatomy keeps the drama coming, and Jamie's World keeps on growing. What? The only way? You don't cut the clavicle. No, don't do that without me. Why would you do that? Sara Ramirez and Chandra Wilson, aka Callie and Dr Bailey. Tell her I'm on my way. Tell her I'm on my way. She's on her way. You guys have made it to season 10. You guys have made it to season 10. 10! You guys have made it to season 10. 10! Does it feel like a big achievement? It absolutely does. It absolutely does. Yes, definitely worth celebrating. # Got my ticket for the long way round. # I got my ticket... # I got my ticket... # I got my... (SCREAMS) Hi again. It's hard enough to get a pilot off the ground in Hollywood, let alone a series, but try a decade of television drama. That's the milestones that the actors from Grey's Anatomy are celebrating. Hannah Ockelford went to LA to catch up with a couple of the shows most popular characters. Let's go. Go. Let's go. Go. V-tach. Uh, give me one epi. Come on. Come on. Charging 120. Charging 120. Got it. BEEPING BEEPING Clear. After 10 years, they've filled our households with drama,... Charge to 200. ...and they're household names. ELECTRICITY CRACKLES You know that you've got a huge fan base in NZ, did you? Yes! Yes! Yes! Yes! We're big in NZ. How did you know that? How did you know that? You know, we get the numbers back. We get requests a lot of times, you know, to either her to come down and do a press tour, or I've done, you know, some radio interviews. So when are you coming? So when are you coming? We gotta make it happen. Could we please make it happen? Could we please make it happen? Well, we would love to have you. Torres. What? The only way? No. You don't cut the clavicle. Don't do that without me. Why would you do that? Sara Ramirez and Chandra Wilson, aka Callie and Dr Bailey. Tell her I'm on my way! Tell her I'm on my way! She's on her way. You guys have made it to season 10. You guys have made it to season 10. 10! Does it feel like a big achievement? It absolutely does. It absolutely does. Yes, definitely worth celebrating. It absolutely does. Yes, definitely worth celebrating. Yeah. And what will you be doing? I know, right? I know, right? You know... Just getting rid of the hairspray, letting your hair down? Just getting rid of the hairspray, letting your hair down? It's season 10. We're going into our 200th episode as well, which is a major milestone for television. Huge. Huge. And we're feeling that. We're feeling the joy of that. I mean, it's really exciting. 'We're not taking it for granted at all.' And the majority of that comes from the amazing fan base that we have, especially our international fan base. especially our international fan base. Yeah. So invested. As the fans get older and have kids, they bring their kids into... We're like a generational show. We're like a generational show. ...the show, it's fantastic that way, There's so many ways to keep the show fresh, both for the audience and for us. Fresh and fearless they have been. Sir, I need you to wait outside. She needs you to give us room to work. We need another nurse here! There was the plane crash, two seasons ago, that changed the lives of every character on the show. How long was I out? How long was I out? I don't... I-I don't know. I-I lost my shoe. SCREAMING SCREAMING (GRUNTS) Lest we forget the musical episode. # ...chasing cars. # If I lay here... # You guys, you both would have been on long enough to both grow in your characters and as people. You're right. You're right. Have you noticed changes as you reflect over this milestone? Sure, yes. I'm a married woman now. I` You know, that was not happening when I first came onto the show. And Callie certainly has discovered so much about herself, and she's been up and down and all around. That was big ` remember when Callie and Arizona got married? I hereby pronounce you wife and wife. Has your fan base changed because of her sexuality? I'm sure it has. I received a lot of feedback during the time when her character was discovering her own sexual fluidity and, you know, was trying to understand it. There was some positive and negative feedback. But there are some die-hard fans who just love her unconditionally, and regardless of who she chooses to sleep with, or fall in love with, or be with, and I thought that was really amazing. Dr Miranda Bailey has been a staple on set, a tough personality with a blunt attitude. Uh, is it life threatening? Because not having enough general surgeons in here right now is life threatening. Go find Webber. And your character's quite bolshie on set. Are you as bolshie as she is? I` I personally don't think so, but then I listen to some of my castmates, and they have another story. But, I mean, yeah, you know, my son is almost 8 now, and he was non-existent when we started the show. Wow, that is so cool. Wow, that is so cool. So, you know that's an amazing` So he would have grown up on set? So he would have grown up on set? This is all he knows, which is really weird, you know? This is all he understands ` that Mom plays a doctor on TV. So it truly has been not only an amazing personal journey but a professional journey as well. I'm now directing on CBS television, which I didn't even think was a possibility then. STAGE WHISPERS: And she's fantastic. STAGE WHISPERS: And she's fantastic. Yeah, yeah, OK. Feedback. Hang on. Feedback. Feedback. Hang on. Feedback. That was all support. She can call me bossy because of that, because I move 'em around. She can call me bossy because of that, because I move 'em around. No, but she has a way of` you're` they call you the Actor Whisperer, because she knows how to communicate and get us all, with our individual personalities, to do what she needs to tell the story. It's amazing. Cos she's been on the other side of the camera, does it make her better? Cos she's been on the other side of the camera, does it make her better? Absolutely. I think so, because there's some real empathy there. She understands we're each` and she knows us each well as just people, but mixed in with the process it takes to get yourself to a place emotionally, or to communicate a certain beat that helps tell the story the way the writers and you want to, it's all there. It's effortless the way she does it. So if your passion is heading that way, has your character now got quite a short lifespan? You would think, right? But now it seems like the more episodes I direct, the heavier Bailey is in those episodes. So, so I just` Someone might be having a say on that. ...basically, cos I'm just turning my hat all the time. I think it's a testament to the impression she made when she first started. She has everyone's respect, and so when she shows up, everybody's on board and with it, cos they know what to expect. And we move the day. It's been` Our 10 years is up, and serious, we're just celebrating up a storm. Whoo-hoo. Whoo-hoo. Yes! And for now, that's enough, because 10 years in TV is a big deal in anyone's books. (GULPS) I'll open another bottle. Can't believe that was 10 years ago that show started. Uh, righto, here's a little game for you to play at home now. Guess who has the most Facebook followers in the whole world? Did you guess Shakira? You did, right? She's got 95 million followers. But in our own little country here in NZ, we have got a woman who's making a big splash on social networks too. Here's Erin Conroy with Jamie Curry. Last year, we met one of the most famous NZers ` famous online that is. Well, hello. So, is this home, is it? So, is this home, is it? This is Jamie's world. Search www.jamiesworld ` it's on Facebook, on YouTube ` and you too will see how big she is. And it all began with some pictures. UPBEAT MUSIC Then came the videos. FUNKY MUSIC # I got my ticket for the long way round. # I got my ticket... # I got my ticket... # I got my... (SCREAMS) And people started noticing. So, did you have a plan for this internet business? So, did you have a plan for this internet business? No. I didn't really use the internet. I wasn't` I'm kind of` I don't really like technology. So if you told me a year ago I'd be, like, an internet person, I'd be, like, '(SCOFFS) What? No.' More than just an internet person. How about internet sensation? (LAUGHS) No. Just person. Internet person. FUNKY MUSIC Fast-forward less than a year... Hi! Hi! Hi. ...and Jamie's online fame has grown somewhat. And you'd had some big goals for YouTube. Do you remember this? My goal is a million subscribers on YouTube. Fail if I don't get that. I've already said it. I've said it. It's too late. So a million subscribers on YouTube was your goal. Yes. Yes. And? Yes. And? I got it. In under a year, you managed to get that. Yeah, like, I was, like, 'One million.' Like, 'No way.' But I got it, so that's good. FUNKY MUSIC Back then she was pretty big on Facebook too, with nearly four million followers. Well, not any more. Do you have, uh...? Do you have five million now? Yes. Maybe a little bit more. Yes. Maybe a little bit more. A bit more than five. Six? A little bit more. A little bit more. A little bit more. Seven? A tiny little bit more. A tiny little bit more. More than eight million? A little bit more than eight million. A little bit more than eight million. Nine million? Yes, just over nine million. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. Congratulations. Thank you. You would be, I'm sure, by far the most followed NZer. That's a bit creepy, eh? (LAUGHS) That's a bit creepy, eh? (LAUGHS) Yeah, don't say that. On Facebook, she holds the top spot in NZ. There's another young Kiwi star gaining popularity. # And we'll never be royal. # And we'll never be royal. # Royal. But even she only has half the numbers Jamie has. < How far do you want to take YouTube? < How far do you want to take YouTube? Um, as far as I can get it, really. Like, I think most YouTubers are almost hitting two million, like, some of the top ones. So I think to be up with them. We've got that on record now too, Jamie. We'll check back with you soon. # Let me live that fantasy. # Now, if you want to see any of tonight's stories again, you can head our website, as always. It's... You can also email us at... Or, of course, go to our Facebook page. We're at... And let us know your thoughts on tonight's show. We're just about there with the 10 million followers. 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