NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES OOPYRIGHTABLEZOM KIA ORA. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO 3RD DEGREE. TONIGHT - FLIGHT MH17 - WE BRING YOU A SPECIAL REPORT FROM AN INTERNATIONAL JOURNALIST. HE TAKES US TO THE CRASH SITE AND ASKS WHO'S TO BLAME? EVERYBODY'S DEVASTATED. THE PASSENGERS WOULD HAVE KNOWN VERY LI'I'I'LE ABOUT IT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE INSTANTANEOUS. THE BLAME GAME HAS STARTED. WHO'S REALLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MURDER IN THE SKY? PLUS, WHY YOU SHOULD WRITE A WILL, AND HOW. HOW TO AVOID ARGUMENTS AFTER YOUR DEATH ABOUT WHO'S GOING TO INHERIT THE FAMILY HOME, BECAUSE YOU DON'T WANT TO END UP LIKE THIS. WE HAVE SPOKEN TO YOUR BROTHER. HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH YOU, AND I'M GOING TO USE HIS WORDS. HE CALLS YOU A DICK. NOT HAPPY WITH YOU, AND I'M GOING TO USE HIS WORDS. ALL RIGHT, FIRST UP, YOU KNOW ABOUT THIS. IT'S GRIPPED US ALL WEEK. IT IS THAT SHOCKING - FLIGHT MH17, THE MALAYSIAN PLANE THAT EXPLODED IN THE SKY, KILLING ALL 298 PEOPLE ON BOARD - GRANDPARENTS, HOLIDAYMAKERS, MUMS AND DADS, WOMEN AND, OF COURSE, 80 CHILDREN. NOW, YOU WILL HAVE LIKELY SEEN SOME OF THE NEWS REPORTS FROM MATT FREI. HE WAS ONE OF THE FIRST REPORTERS TO THE SCENE, AND HIS STORIES HAVE BEEN BROADCAST WORLDWIDE. NOW, TONIGHT HE DETAILS EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED FROM THE VERY BEGINNING. THIS IS THE ANATOMY OF THIS DISASTER. GRIII IMSIO IIANSPEAKSIMRAINIAN LAST THURSDAY, FLIGHT MH17, TRAVELLING FROM AMSTERDAM TO KUALA LUMPUR, WAS BROUGHT DOWN BYA SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE HERE IN GRABOVOE, EASTERN UKRAINE. SOME OF THOSE LMNG HERE WITNESSED HORRIFIC SCENES AS DEBRIS AND BODIES LANDED ON HOUSES AND IN THE SURROUNDING COUNTRYSIDE. GRIII IMSIO (SPEAKS UKRAINIAN) MEN SPEAK UKRAINIAN THESE YOUNG MEN, LIKE OTHERS IN THE AREA, DIDN'T SEE THE EXPLOSION, BUT THEY HEARD IT. (SPEAKS UKRAINIAN) (SPEAKS UKRAINIAN) AT FIRST THEYASSUMED IT WAS MORE FIGHTING. THEY WERE USED TO THAT. BUT NOTHING WOULD PREPARE THEM FOR WHAT THEY DISCOVERED WHEN THEY VENTURED OUT INTO THE FIELDS. BLIMEY. THIS IS IT. BLIMEY. THIS IS IT. DASHBOARD. THIS IS THE COCKPIT. THIS IS IT. DASHBOARD. THIS IS THE COCKPIT. THIS IS IT. JESUS CHRIST. SO, THIS KNOT OF TWISTED METAL AND WIRES WAS THE COCKPIT OF FLIGHT MH17. OK, YOU CAN SEE THE DASHBOARD AND BITS OF THE DASHBOARD OVER THERE. THE CONTROL PANEL. THAT LOOKS TO ME LIKE THE JOYSTICK OR PART OF THE JOYSTICK. THIS WAS ONE OF THE PILOT SEATS HERE. HERE. THIS IS WHERE THE PILOT WILL HAVE SAT, OR THE CO-PILOT. GOD KNOWS WHERE HE IS NOW. ALL OF THE 298 CREW AND PASSENGERS PERISHED IN THE CRASH. MANY OF THE BODIES STILL LIE WHERE THEY FELL FOUR DAYS AGO. IT'S THE MOST TRAGIC, APPALLING CLASH OF WORLDS THAT YOU COULD POSSIBLY IMAGINE. THE WORLD OF THE PLANE UP THERE AT 33,000FT, HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE HEADING ON HOLIDAY, GOING ON BUSINESS TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD, AND THEN THE WORLD DOWN HERE - A NASTY LOCAL CONFLICT - AND SUDDENLY THEY'RE BROUGHT TOGETHER IN THE MOST TRAGIC MANNER. GRIII IMSIO THURSDAY THE 17TH OF JULY - A BRIGHT SUMMER'S MORNING AT THE START OF THE SCHOOL HOLIDAYS, AND SCHIPHOL AIRPORT IN AMSTERDAM IS BUSTLING WITH HOLIDAYMAKERS, BUSINESS TRAVELLERS AND STUDENTS. PASSENGERS AND CREWARE BATFLING THEIR WAY THROUGH THE DEPARTURES HALL TO CATCH A MALAYSIAAIRLINES FLIGHT TO KUALA LUMPUR. TENSEIMJSIO MUSICIAN COR PAN IS BOARDING THE PLANE AND POSTS THIS PHOTO ON FACEBOOK. ON HIS MIND IS THE DISAPPEARANCE OF THE MALAYSIAN PLANE EARLIER THIS YEAR. HE JOKES, 'IF MY FLIGHT TO MALAYSIA DISAPPEARS, THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE.' MALAYSIA AIRLINES FLIGHT MH17 IS FULL, WITH PASSENGERS SQUEEZING THEIR LAST BITS OF HAND LUGGAGE INTO THE OVERHEAD LOCKERS. PA: WE'RE ON THE FINAL STAGES OF OUR BOARDING AND CARGO LOADING. ONCE AGAIN, DO ENSURE YOUR PHONES ARE ALSO OFF FOR THE FLIGHT. SITTING A FEW ROWS DOWN IS ZO-YEAR-OLD RICHARD MAYNE, A BRITISH STUDENT. MAN: RICHARD, HOW'S IT GOING? ZO-YEAR-OLD RICHARD MAYNE, A BRITISH STUDENT. MAN: RICHARD, HOWS IT GOING? YEAH, PRETTY NERVOUS, PRETTY NERVOUS. I JUST WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU TO ALL THOSE PEOPLE WHO HELPED SUPPORT ME WITH THE EXPEDITION TAKING PLACE. AND I'M GOING TO FINISH IT OFF WITH A BUNGEE JUMP NOW TO GO OUT WITH A BANG. CHEERS, GUYS. EVERYBODY KNOWS RICHARD, LOVES HIM. UM, YOU KNOW, HE'S ALWAYS SMILING. I'VE HAR... I'VE HARDLY IN MY LIFE SEEN HIM UPSET. AND HE JUST ALWAYS WANTS EVERYBODY TO BE HAVING A GOOD TIME. RICHARD, A KEEN RUGBY PLAYER, IS GOING TO AUSTRALIA. HE'S ARRANGED FOR A TRIAL WITH A TEAM IN PERTH. I REMEMBER HIM TELLING ME THAT THEY'VE GOT THIS AMAZING TOUR OF RUGBY UNION ON THAT SIDE AND HE'S GOT TO BE THERE BE FOR A CERTAIN DAY COS THATS WHEN THE TRAINING STARTS AND HE'S GOT TO BE THERE. AND HE WAS JUST SO EXCITED, AND I JUST FEEL SO SORRY FOR HIM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS HIS BIG THING. YOU KNOW, IT WAS HIS CHANCE TO GO OUT AND DO IT. IT'S JUST PAST MIDDAY, AND FLIGHT MH17 TAXIS DOWN THE RUNWAY. TENSEIMJSIO LIAM SWEENEY IS SITTING WITH HIS FRIEND AND FELLOW NEWCASTLE UNITED FAN JOHN ALDER. THEY NEVER MISS A GAME AND ARE HEADING TO NZ TO WATCH THEIR TEAM IN A PRE-SEASON FRIENDLY. LIAM'S STEPMOTHER, LESLEY, IS SUFFERING FROM A LUNG DISEASE. HE JUST LOVED THE CLUB. HE LOVED EVERYTHING ABOUT IT. YOU COULD SEE THE EXCITEMENT IN HIS FACE ABOUT THIS TRIP. IT WAS, YES, IT WAS ONLYA COUPLE OF FRIENDLIES, BUT SO WHAT? HE WAS GOING TO THE FAR ENDS OF THE WORLD TO MEET NEW PEOPLE WHO HE WOULD PROBABLY BORE WITH HIS FOOTBALL TALK, YOU KNOW. THE PLANE TAKES OFF AND QUICKLY REACHES ITS FLYING ALTITUDE, OVER 30,000FT, HEADING EAST ACROSS EUROPE. IT'S A STANDARD PRACTICE THAT AIRLINES WILL OPERATE ON THIS PARTICULAR ROUTE BETWEEN EUROPE AND SOUTH-EASTASIA. IT'S THE SHORTEST ROUTE. IT IS AND HAS BEEN FOR AN AWFULLY LONG TIME BEEN DEEMED AS THE SAFEST ROUTE AS WELL. THE PASSENGERS ARE SETTLING IN FOR A LONG JOURNEY. THE IN-FLIGHT MOVIES ARE STARTING, BUT MANY ARE CATCHING UP ON WORK. JOEP LANGE, A PIONEER IN AIDS RESEARCH, IS TRAVELLING WITH HIS WIFE AND A GROUP OF INTERNATIONALLY RENOWNED EXPERTS IN HIV/AIDS ON THEIR WAY TO A CONFERENCE IN MELBOURNE. JOEP IS LOOKING FORWARD TO A COUPLE OF QUIET HOURS ON THE PLANE. JOEP WAS ALWAYS CONNECTED. HE WAS ALWAYS WORKING. HE HAS HIS LAPTOP EVERYWHERE. JOEP'S GOAL WITH RESPECT TO HIV WAS, OF COURSE, COMPLETE ERADICATION TO GET THE EPIDEMIC STOPPED AND LET IT DISAPPEAR FROM THIS WORLD. HE WAS- HE MADE DELIBERATE CHOICES IN HIS LIFE, UM, THAT RELATES TO THE WELL-BEING OF PEOPLE. IT'S NOW SEVERAL HOURS INTO THE FLIGHT, AND THE PLANE IS ENTERING UKRAINIAN AIRSPACE. ON THE GROUND, FIGHTING HAD BEEN RAGING SINCE APRIL, WHEN PRO-RUSSIAN SEPARATIST REBELS DECLARED INDEPENDENCE IN UKRAINE'S EASTERN REGIONS. HOW MANY OF THOSE PASSENGERS ON BOARD ARE AWARE THAT 33,000FT BELOW THEM, MH17 HAS JUST ENTERED A WAR ZONE? YEAH, THEY WERE 33,000FT UP, WHICH IS JUST 1000FT HIGHER THAN THE OFFICIAL NO-FLY ZONE. THE BIG QUESTION THE FAMILIES HAVE BEEN ASKING THIS WEEK IS WAS THAT SENSIBLE? WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, THOUGH, AND EXPERTS ARE SAYING THIS THE WORLD OVER THAT THERE WERE UP TO AS MANY AS 200 OTHER PLANES THAT WERE IN THE SAME AREA THAT DAY. AND 33,000FT - THATS 1OKM UP IN THE AIR. THESE PILOTS THOUGHT THEY WERE SAFE. NO, THAT'S RIGHT. BUT WHAT THEY DIDN'T BANK ON WAS THE FACT THAT THESE REBELS IN EASTERN UKRAINE HAVE THE STATE-OF-THE-ART GROUND-TO-AIR MISSILES WITH INCREDIBLE REACH, AND THESE MISSILES HAVE ONLY BEEN IN THE HANDS OF THE BIG MILITARIES. MM, MM, RIGHT. WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT, PLUS THE HORROR OF THE CRASH ITSELF. VWih Bonus Bonds, there are thousands of cash prizes to be won every month. From $20 to $1 million! VWih Bonus Bonds, there are thousands of cash prizes to be won every month. ALI-W' Visit bonusbondsnonz to invest now. HE TAKES US TO THE CRASH SITE AND ASKS WHO'S TO BLAME? WELCOME BACK. SO, MH17 HAS ENTERED AWAR ZONE, THE EASTERN REGION OF UKRAINE WHERE PRO-RUSSIAN MILITANTS HAVE BEEN FIGHTING FOR INDEPENDENCE. OTHER AIRLINES HAVE BEEN FLYING OVER THE SAME AREA AT THE SAME SORT OF ALTITUDE - 33,000FT. THE BIG QUESTION THAT HAS BEEN ASKED THIS WEEK IS SHOULD MALAYSIA AIRLINES HAVE BEEN MORE CAUTIOUS AND MORE CAREFUL. HERE'S MATT FREI AGAIN. THERE WERE MANY GOOD REASONS FOR NOT FLYING OVER THIS PARTICULAR PATCH OF EASTERN UKRAINE, BECAUSE SINCE THE BEGINNING OF LAST MONTH, THE PRO-RUSSIAN REBELS HAD USED SHOULDER-LAUNCHED MISSILES TO FIRE AND BRING DOWN UKRAINIAN MILITARY JETS AND TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT. THERE IS A NO-FLY ZONE IN PLACE OVER THE REBEL-HELD TERRITORY BUT ONLY UP TO 32,000FT. IT'S UNLIKELY THAT PILOTS WOULD HAVE CONCERN ABOUT FLYING OVERA CONFLICT AREA, BECAUSE AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY'RE FLYING AT A CONSIDERABLE HEIGHT UP. AND BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY'RE RELATIVELY SAFE FROM ALL BUT THE MOST HIGH-END MILITARY TECHNOLOGY. IT'S NOW FOUR HOURS INTO THE FLIGHT WHEN SUDDENLYALL CONTACT IS LOST. I THINK THE PASSENGERS WOULD HAVE KNOWN VERY Ll'l'I'LE ABOUT IT. IT WOULD HAVE BEEN QUITE INSTANTANEOUS. THE MISSILE ITSELF WOULD HAVE BEEN TRAVELLING AT MORE THAN MACH-3 - SO IT REALLY IS SUPERSONIC, GOING VERY VERY QUICK - THAT WILL EXPLODE LITERALLY JUST BEFORE HITTING THE AIRCRAFT. CLOUDS OF DENSE, BLACK SMOKE BILLOW ACROSS THE SKIES. DEBRIS AND BODIES ARE SCATFERED ACROSS THE COUNTRYSIDE BELOW. A SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE, DEPENDING UPON WHICH ONE IT IS, BUT CERTAINLY A VAST MAJORITY ARE EXTREMELY ACCURATE AND EXTREMELY POWERFUL, THE KINETIC EFFECT, LETALONE THE EXPLOSIVE WARHEAD WOULD BE SUFFICIENT TO TAKE OUT AN AIRCRAFT. SOIBRE MUSIC NEWS OF THE TRAGEDY FLASHED AROUND THE WORLD AND SHOCKINGLY FOR THE SECOND TIME IN FOUR MONTHS, THE MALAYSIAN PRIME MINISTER FOUND HIMSELF EXPLAINING THE LOSS OF A PASSENGER JET. THE UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES BELIEVE THAT THE PLANE WAS SHOT DOWN. AT THIS STAGE, HOWEVER, MALAYSIA IS UNABLE TO VERIFY THE CAUSE OF THIS TRAGEDY. BUT WE MUST AND WE WILL FIND OUT PRECISELY WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS FLIGHT. ON THE GROUND, THE SEARED WRECKAGE WAS STREWN OVER AVAST RADIUS, CLOSE TO THE VILLAGE OF GRABOVOE. BROKEN BODIES LAYAMONG THE TWISTED METAL. CHILDREN'S SHOES, LUGGAGE, SOUVENIRS AND PERSONAL ITEMS REVEALED THE LIVES SO TRAGICALLY DESTROYED. IT'S WIDELY BELIEVED THAT THERE WERE 150 SOUTH-EAST ASIAN AND EUROPEAN CARRIERS WHO WERE TRACKING ALONG THAT ROUTE AT SOME POINT DURING LAST THURSDAY. SO IT COULD HAVE BEEN, LITERALLY, ANY ONE OF THOSE AEROPLANES THAT WERE BROUGHT DOWN BYA MISSILE. THE IMAGES WERE BEAMED RIGHT ACROSS THE WORLD AND SOON REACHED LEICESTERSHIRE AND THE DISBELIEVING FRIEND AND FAMILY OF RICHARD MAYNE. I GOT A CALL OFF BILL, AND... AND, UM... HE SAID, 'HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEWS?' I SAID, 'NO, I HAVEN'T SEEN THE NEWS.' AND... YOU JUST WANNA CHECK. RICHARD'S LATE FOR BLOODY EVERYTHING. (CHUCKLES) HE WOULDN'T BE LATE FOR THAT FLIGHT, WOULD HE? YOU KNOW, HE WOULDN'T BE LATE FOR THAT ONE. YOU JUST WANNA CHECK 100%, WAS HE ON THAT FLIGHT? WAS HE 100% ON THAT FLIGHT? ARE YOU SURE? YOU SURE?' YOU JUST CAN'T COME TO TERMS WITH IT. COS YOU JUST- YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS SOMETHING WHICH WAS AN ACCIDENT, OR THERE WAS A REASON, A TECHNICAL FAULT OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT IT WAS A DELIBERATE THING, YOU KNOW. IT WAS A DELIBERATE THING. I REALLY COULDN'T COME TO TERMS WITH IT. I JUST KEPT TELLING MYSELF IT WASN'T TRUE AND OBVIOUSLY PRAYING THAT HE DIDN'T GET ON THE FLIGHT. IN NEWCASTLE TOO, THE FAMILY OF LIAM SWEENEY WERE BEWILDERED BY THEIR LOSS. HE'LL BE MISSED BY THE LADS AT ST JAMES PARK. I THINK THE CLUB WILL MISS HIM NOW, COS I THINK THE TWO OF THEM HAVE BECOME LEGENDS, YOU KNOW. AND HE'LL BE LOOKING DOWN. I'M GONNA START CRYING IN A MINUTE. HE'LL BE LOOKING DOWN, THINKING, 'IS THIS ALL ABOUT ME?' BUT FAR TOO YOUNG. AMONG THE FAMILIES OF THE MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN THAT HAVE DIED, DISBELIEF AND SHOCK TURNED RAPIDLY TO ANGER AND GRIEF. AND THROUGH FIELDS OF UKRAINIAN SUNFLOWERS, THE SEARCH FOR ANSWERS BEGINS. OK, UP NEXT, WE'VE GOT DEMANDS FROM THE WESTERN COUNTRIES, FROM THE COUNTRIES OF THE VICTIMS, FOR ANSWERS, BUT JUST DEFIANCE FROM THE EAST. THEY'RE NOT TELLING US ANYTHING. MM, AND WHAT WE'RE SEEING AT THE MOMENT, OF COURSE, IS THE UKRAINE POINTING THE FINGER AT THE RUSSIANS AND THE RUSSIANS POINTING THE FINGER BACK. THAT'S RIGHT. UP NEXT WE'LL HAVE MORE ON THE SITUATION FROM MATT FREI. Sam felt fine spending $45 on perfectly good wine. And why wouldn't he, after they enjoyed the entire show together, right from the start, because he got to the station two minutes early, all thanks to saving valuable time paying Doug the lawn guy with his phone. Time really is money. To keep both running smoothly, talk to ANZ about switching banks today. HE TAKES US TO THE CRASH SITE AND ASKS WHO'S TO BLAME? WELCOME BACK TO 3RD DEGREE. WE'RE BACK VVITH MATT FRY AS HE WATCHES EVENTS UNFOLD, OF COURSE, IN THE AFTERMATH OF THE MH17 DISASTER. SOBERING IMJSIO FOUR DAYS AGO, 298 PEOPLE WERE MURDERED HIGH ABOVE A WAR ZONE. MALAYSIAN AIRLINES FLIGHT MH17 - BLOWN OUT OF THE SKY, MOST LIKELY BYA SURFACE-TO-AIR MISSILE IN EASTERN UKRAINE. SOBERING IMJSIO OONTINIES THESE BODY BAGS RENDERED THE VICTIMS ANONYMOUS. OF COURSE, BUT REMEMBER THAT THESE WERE... BRITS, DUTCH, GERMAN, AMERICAN, MALAYSIAN - PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD. BUT NO ONE, LEAST OF ALL THEM, COULD HAVE IMAGINED THAT ALL THAT WOULD END HERE LIKE THIS. MASS MURDER. MAIN SUSPECTS - SEPARATISTS BACKED BY THE RUSSIAN PRESIDENT, VLADIMIR PUTIN. FIRST, THE LEADERS OF THE COUNTRIES WHOSE CITIZENS HAVE BEEN KILLED WOULD NEED EVIDENCE TO PROVE IT. IT IS AN ABSOLUTELY APPALLING, SHOCKING, HORRIFIC INCIDENT, UH, THAT HAS TAKEN PLACE. AND WE'VE GOT TO GET TO THE BOTTOM OF WHAT HAPPENED. SO THERE HAS TO BE A CREDIBLE INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATION INTO WHAT HAPPENED. OUR PRIORITY DOES NEED TO BE GAINING ACCESS TO THE SITE WHERE MH17 CAME DOWN. THIS IS ATIME OF ENORMOUS TRAUMA AND STRESS FOR THE FAMILIES INVOLVED. AND WHEN WE SEE REPORTS OF PASSPORTS AND OTHER INFORMATION BEING REMOVED, THAT IS SIMPLYADDING TO THE STRESS. UM, THOSE FAMILIES ABSOLUTELY, THE BARE MINIMUM, DESERVE ACCESS TO THE BLACK BOX, TO ALL THE INFORMATION, AND FOR THOSE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE TO BE HELD TO ACCOUNT. HOWEVER, THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY ISN'T GETTING VERY FAR, ESPECIALLY AS MANY OF THOSE BLAMED FOR THE KILLINGS STILL CONTROL THE CRASH SITE. (SPEAKS RUSSIAN) ...THERE IS THE LAST ONE. PEOPLE CHATTER INDISTINOTLY IN THIS AREA OF UKRAINE, THE NORMAL RULE OF LAW DOESN'TAPPLY. SO THESE INTERNATIONAL INVESTIGATORS ARE UNLIKELY TO BE GIVEN ACCESS TO THE EVIDENCE LYING IN THE SUNFLOWER FIELDS. WHAT'S YOUR IMPRESSION OF THIS TODAY? I'D RATHER WAIT TO TELL YOU, COS... OF THIS TODAY? I'D RATHER WAIT TO TELL YOU. COS... YEAH? OK. ARE YOU THE ONLY- THE, UM, ONLY PRESENCE OF THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY HERE? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? NOT RIGHT NOW. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? NOT RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE IT? IS THERE ANYONE ELSE? NOT RIGHT NOW. YOU'RE IT? NOT RIGHT NOW. MOVE? ALL RIGHT. OK. OK. OK, OK, OK. OK. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'RE GETTING A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS NOW. UM, THEY'VE ESTABLISHED THEIR OWN CORDON HERE; THEY'VE- THESE ARE THE PRO-RUSSIAN REBELS, WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY'VE GOT SOME CONTROL OVER THE CRASH SITE. WHAT THIS CRASH SITE IS MISSING IS IT IS, AFTER ALL, THE BIGGEST CRIME SCENE AT THE MOMENT... IN THE WORLD, IF YOU LIKE. WHAT IT IS REALLY MISSING ARE INTERNATIONAL FORENSIC EXPERTS WHO WOULD NORMALLY ARRIVE ATA SCENE LIKE THIS, PICK THROUGH THE DEBRIS, RECOVER THE BODIES AND START THE ANALYSIS OF WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED HERE. TENSEIMJSIO MANY OF THE BODIES STILL LIE ON THE VERY SPOT THEY LANDED ON AFTER FALLING FROM THE SKY. NO WHITE TENT, NO FORENSICS OR ANY KIND OF ATTEMPT AT PRESERVATION. THE VICTIMS ROBBED OF THEIR DIGNITY, AND SOME REPORTEDLY LOOTED AS WELL. THE REBEL MILITIA, FEELING CONFIDENT THAT THEY WOULDN'T BE CHALLENGED, REMOVED OVER 200 BODIES FROM THE CRIME SCENE. THEY PACKED THEM IN A REFRIGERATED TRAIN. THE SELF-PROCLAIMED PRO-RUSSIAN LEADER HELD A PRESS CONFERENCE. THE REBELS' VERSION OF DUE PROCESS OFFERS NO COMFORT FOR THE GRIEVING RELATIVES WATCHING THESE SCENES UNFOLD THOUSANDS OF MILES AWAY, SUCH AS THE FAMILY OF LIAM SWEENEY. I FIND IT DIFFICULT SOMETIMES, SEEING THE WRECKAGE STREWN ALL OVER THE PLACE, WONDERING WHETHER ONE OF THE PIECES COVERED IS MY GRANDSON. AND I PRESUME EVERYBODY'S DOING THE SAME. I'D LIKE TO SEE AN END TO ITALLAND TO GET HIM BACK AGAIN, YOU KNOW, GET HIM BACK, HOPEFULLY, UM, AS MUCH IN ONE PIECE AS WE CAN AND GIVE HIM A CHRISTIAN BURIAL, YOU KNOW. THE SWEENEY FAMILY HAVE NO IDEA WHERE LIAM'S BODY IS. DAD BARRY AND STEPMOTHER LESLEY ARE NOT ONLY DEVASTATED, BUT ANGRY. I KNOW THERE WAS A LOT OF BODIES SUPPOSEDLY BLOWN UP IN THE SKY, SO... BODY PARTS, BUT THE WRECK THAT WAS ALL AROUND NEAR THE ACTUAL BODIES HAVE BEEN FOUND, BUT I DON'T THINK THEY CAN GET TO THE PEOPLE. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SEE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE STOPPING IT THINK - YOU KNOW, YOU'VE GOT SONS, DAUGHTERS, MUMS, DADS. STOP BEING HORRIBLE. UM, I TRY NOT TO WATCH AS MUCH BECAUSE ALL I CAN THINK OF IS SEEING HIM LYING THERE AND... I JUST WANT HIM HERE, OUT OF THERE. SOMEBODY GETA HOLD OF HIM. (SNIFFLES) WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANNA KILL LIAM? > THATS IT. WHY WOULD ANYBODY WANNA KILL LIAM? (soss QUIETLY) (couen-us) I THINK I'D LIKE TO BE OUT THERE, JUST GIVE HIM A BIG CUDDLE. GENTLE MUSIC THE FAMILYAND FRIENDS NOT ONLY WANT THEIR LOVED ONES' BODIES BACK, THEY WANT ANSWERS. SO, WHERE ARE THE IN-FLIGHT RECORDERS? UNDER THE GLARE OF THE WORLD'S SCRUTINY, THE PRO-RUSSIAN REBEL LEADERS HAVE BEEN FEELING THE PRESSURE. IN A MIDNIGHT CEREMONY, ALEXANDER BORODAI, A RUSSIAN CITIZEN, AND THE SELF-APPOINTED PRIME MINISTER OF THE SELF-DECLARED BREAKAWAY STATELET, HANDED OVER THE PRECIOUS FLIGHT RECORDERS TO MALAYSIAN OFFICIALS. ONE LAST CHECK OF THE SEALS AND THIS CRUCIAL EVIDENCE IS LOWERED INTO PLASTIC BAGS. NOW ON ITS WAY TO BRITAIN, TO THE AIRACCIDENT INVESTIGATION BRANCH IN FARNBOROUGH. THE AMERICANS HAVE PRETTY GOOD SATELLITE INFORMATION AND ELECTROMAGNETIC INFORMATION WHICH SHOW THATA MISSILE WAS LAUNCHED, ROUGHLY WHERE IT CAME FROM, ALL OF THAT. THE FACT- WHAT IS REVEALING IS THAT VARIOUS PIECES OF EARLIER CLAIMS BY THE DISSIDENT MOVEMENT THAT THEY HAD THE SO-CALLED BUK SYSTEM AND THAT THEY HAD USED IT AGAINST THE UKRAINIAN TRANSPORT AIRCRAFT HAVE BEEN REMOVED FROM THEIR- THEIR TWITTER HISTORY, AS IT WERE, WHICH IS A SIGN THAT SUGGESTS VERY STRONGLY THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO COVER THINGS UP. AND THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT HAS JUST PUT FORWARD ITS OWN EVIDENCE, UNVERIFIED. IT SAYS INTERCEPTED PHONE CALLS REVEAL SEPARATISTS ADMITTING SHOOTING DOWN THE PLANE TO A RUSSIAN MILITARY OFFICER. I MEAN, IF THESE TAPES ARE ACTUALLY ACCURATE, THEY SERIOUSLY IMPLICATE THE REBELS, BECAUSE THEY CLEARLY STATE THAT THE COSSACKS BASED AT CHERNUKHINO HAD ACTUALLY SHOT AT THIS PLANE. AND ALSO, THEY ADMIT THAT THIS PLANE WAS A CMLIAN PLANE; THEY PROVIDE DETAILS OF THE THINGS THEY FOUND AROUND THE PLANE, WHICH CLEARLY INDICATES THAT THIS WAS A CMLIAN PLANE. HOW COULD A RAGTAG REBEL MILITIA HAVE THE TOOLS AND EXPERTISE TO SHOOT DOWN A PASSENGER PLANE? ANOTHER CLUE COULD LIE WITH THIS MAN, RUSSIAN IGOR GIRKIN, NICKNAMED 'RIFLEMAN'. HE'S A VERY SHADOWY FIGURE. I MEAN, HE'S A FORMER RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE COLONEL, I THINK. NOBODY IS CLAIMING THAT HE'S CURRENTLY EMPLOYED BY THE RUSSIANS, AT LEAST VISIBLY, BUT THE RUSSIAN SYSTEM IS SUCH THAT IT'S VERY HARD TO TELL. ONCE YOU'VE BEEN IN THE RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE - IT'S LIKE IN OXFORD OF CAMBRIDGE - YOU ALWAYS SORT OF HAVE THE LINK FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. UM, HE OBVIOUSLY HAS LINKS BACK INTO RUSSIAN INTELLIGENCE AND THE SORTS OF PEOPLE WHO ARE FOSTERING A DISSIDENT MOVEMENT, UM, AND HE'S OBVIOUSLY BEEN VERYACTIVE IN ENCOURAGING THE SECESSIONIST MOVEMENT. IT'S NO SECRET THAT RUSSIA BACKS THE SEPARATISTS, AND NOT JUST WITH ARMS. FOR MANY, THE FINGER OF BLAME POINTS TOWARDS VLADIMIR PUTIN. IT COULD BE THAT THIS WILL UNDERMINE HIM TERMINALLY, BECAUSE OF THE HUGE DAMAGE TO THE REPUTATION OF RUSSIA IN THE WIDER WORLD. AND HE WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE. HOW WILL THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY REACT? ARE THEY PREPARED TO TAKE ON PUTIN? THE EUROPEANS, WESTERN EUROPEANS, LATER EUROPEANS AND THE UNITED STATES CAN NO LONGER AFFORD TO CONDUCTA POLICY TOWARDS PUTIN THAT'S SPLIT BETWEEN THEM. SO ONE HOPES TO SEE A REALLY SOLID, COHERENT RESPONSE TO WHAT HAS HAPPENED. THERE IS, OF COURSE, A GLOBAL POLITICAL DIMENSION TO THIS UNSPEAKABLE TRAGEDY. BUT FOR THE RELATIVES OF THE LOVED ONES WHO DIED IN THE CRASH OF MH17, ONLY TWO THINGS REALLY MATTER - DIGNITY AND JUSTICE. AND FOR NOW, BOTH ARE IN VERY SHORT SUPPLY. YEAH, I GUESS I FEELANGRY. ITHINK EVERYONE PROBABLY FEELS ANGRY, WHETHER YOU'RE CONNECTED OR YOU'RE NOT, YOU KNOW, AND THAT JUST SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. THAT JUST SHOULDN'T HAPPEN. THE MAIN THING IS JUST TO MAKE SURE NOBODY FORGETS. I SAY LIAM SWEENYAND JOHN ALDER. TENSEIMJSIO AT SCHIPHOL TODAY, AND AT AIRPORTS AROUND THE WORLD, MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WILL BE CATCHING A FLIGHT. PASSENGERS MUST FLY; BUSINESS MUST CONTINUE. BUT FOR THE FAMILIES OF THE PEOPLE KILLED ON FLIGHT MH17, THE PAIN AND THE LOSS WILL LASTA LIFETIME. WELL, THERE'S NO DOUBT THE WORLD, OF COURSE, IS DEMANDING ANSWERS ON WHO'S TO BLAME FOR ALL THIS, AND, OF COURSE, WE'RE ALL DEMANDING, AREN'T WE, JUSTICE AND DIGNITY FOR THOSE WHO HAVE LOST THEIR LIVES. FOR THE VICTIMS AND FOR THEIR FAMILIES. WE SHOULD ALSO POINT OUT THAT THAT STORY JUST CAME IN EARLIER TODAY, AND IT REPLACED OTHERS THAT WE HAD BEEN ADVERTISING FOR THIS WEEK. WE WILL BRING YOU THOSE STORIES JUSTAS SOON AS WE CAN. OK, WHEN WE COME BACK - WHY YOU SHOULD PLAN FOR YOUR OWN DEATH, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WRITE AWILL OR YOUR WILL ISN'T ABSOLUTELY RIGHT... SHOULD PLAN FOR YOUR OWN DEATH, BECAUSE IF YOU DON'T WRITE AWILL OR IT CAN. SHOULD PLAN FOR YOUR OWN DEATH, THINGS CAN GET QUICKLY OUT OF HAND. THAT'S NEXT. THE SCENE WAS SET, PRETTY MUCH. THINGS CAN GET QUICKLY OUT OF HAND. THAT'S NEXT. THE SCENE WAS SET, PRETTY MUCH. THE BODY WAS STILL...? > THINGS CAN GET QUICKLY OUT OF HAND. THATS NEXT. THE SCENE WAS SET RIGHT THERE. UM, YEAH, SO, AGAIN, PARENTS, YOU THINK YOUR KIDS DON'T DO THAT? WAIT TILL YOU DIE. (CHUCKLES) From $20 to $1 million! VWih Bonus Bonds, there are thousands of cash prizes to be won every month. ALI-W' Visit bonusbondsnonz to invest now. HE TAKES US TO THE CRASH SITE AND ASKS WHO'S TO BLAME? WELCOME BACK. WELL, IT TURNS OUT THAT NZERS ARE AMONG THE WORST IN THE DEVELOPED WORLD IN TERMS OF WRITING WILLS. OR MAYBE NOT WRITING THEM. IN TERMS OF WRITING WILLS. OR MAYBE NOT WRITING THEM. YEAH, IT SEEMS THAT IT'S JUST NOT IN OUR CULTURE OR IN OUR NATURE. WE DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE DON'T WANT TO THINK ABOUT OUR OWN DEATH. YEAH, WE DON'T WANT TO DEAL WITH IT, THATS FOR SURE. AND KEEPING OUR HEADS IN THE SAND CAUSES AN UNTOLD NUMBER OF FAMILY FEUDS AND LOTS OF LEGAL BATTLES, IT'S REALLY COSTLY, AND OF COURSE, IT'S INCREDIBLY WASTEFULAS WELL. FEUDS AND LOTS OF LEGAL BATTLES, WHEN FAMILIES FIGHT OVER THIS KIND OF THING. AND OUR REPORTER AMANDA GILLIES, SHE'S FOUND OUT SHE'S PART OF THE PROBLEM AS YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE. TWO BROTHERS FIGHTING FOR 25 YEARS. ONE PROBLEM - NO WILL. WE'RE NOTAS CLOSE AS WE SHOULD BE. < DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM? WE'RE NOTAS CLOSE AS WE SHOULD BE. < DO YOU HAVE A RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM? UM... I WISH I COULD. UM... UH... IT WOULD BE GREAT. SORRY. IN TERMS OF WHAT HAPPENED WHEN OUR FATHER DIED, UH, THAT WAS AN ISSUE. AND THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY HELP IN OUR RELATIONSHIP. FATHER DIED, UH, THAT WAS AN ISSUE. WELL, WHEN MY FATHER ACTUALLY PASSED AWAY, OBVIOUSLY, HE DIDN'T HAVE A WILL. UH, EVERYBODY HAD THEIR OWN THOUGHTS ABOUT WHERE THE LAND AND WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING TO GO TO. UH, AND I THINK THAT WE ALL WANTED IT TO GO INTO DIFFERENT PLACES. BIRD OHIRPS GEORGE AND RICHARD NGATAPS PARENTS WERE PART OWNERS OF THOUSANDS OF HECTARES OF MAORI LAND, STRETCHING FROM WHAKATANE TO TE KUITI, WORTH TENS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS. WITHOUTA WILL, THERE WAS NO INSTRUCTION, AND BASICALLY, THE KIDS STILL CAN'T AGREE WHAT TO DO WITH IT. WHAT THEY CAN AGREE ON -A WILL WOULD HAVE SOLVED EVERYTHING. WELL, I THINK THE WILL WOULD BE GREAT IN THAT IT'S SET DOWN IN BLACK AND WHITE. YOU KNOW, AND YOU CAN'T... YOU HAVE GOT NO ONE TO, UM... SWEAR AT, EH? THE PERSON'S GONE. IT WOULD HAVE TAKEN RESPONSIBILITY OFF ME, EH. THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD. I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO... ENJOYA FAMILY. I WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, UH, LAUGH, CRY, UM, UH... AND ALL THAT. OH, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN HUGELY BENEFICIAL FOR THE WHANAU. WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHERE THE MONEY WAS GOING TO GO, RATHER THAN IT BE SPLIT UP. WE WOULD HAVE KNOWN WHAT THE MONEY WAS GOING TO BE SPENT FOR, WHETHER IT WAS FOR EDUCATION ON OUR CHILDREN OR CLOTHING OR REINVESTMENTS INTO OTHER PIECES OF LAND BACK IN WHAKATANE. UM, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN GREAT. INSTEAD, THEY HAVE FOUGHT, WASTING TIME AND MONEY. LOTS OF IT. I WOULD ACTUALLY SAY PROBABLY ABOUT $20,000 TO $30,000, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE HAVE LOST. UM, THAT'S WHAT I CAN ACCUM- UH, ACCOUNT UP FOR. UH, I MEAN, IT'S NOT GOOD FOR FAMILIES. IT'S NOT GOOD. IT WAS CERTAINLY A BREAK-UP OF WHANAU VALUES. GEORGE HAS NOW JOINED FORCES WITH LAWYER MAI CHEN, WHO'S ON A WILLS CRUSADE, FOLLOWING AN EPIPHANY. IT WAS FUNNY, BECAUSE I MET GEORGE, AND WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS TOPIC, AND HE EXPLAINED TO ME THAT BECAUSE HIS DAD HAD DIED INTESTATE - IE, WITHOUT A WILL - IT HAD CAUSED THIS GREAT RUCKUS IN THEIR FAMILY. AND I REMEMBER HAVING THIS OUT-OF-BODY EXPERIENCE WHERE I SAW EVERYONE FIGHTING. AND THE WORST THING ABOUT THIS INST- THIS CASE THAT I WAS INVOLVED IN WAS TO SEE FAMILY MEMBERS THAT LOVE EACH OTHER, AMANDA, FIGHTING ABOUT A BOAT, A CAR, A HOLIDAY HOUSE, A... LOOK, UM, THIS IS NOT THE TIME TO BE FIGHTING ABOUT THESE THINGS. THIS IS A LOVED PERSON. I DON'T WANT PEOPLE FIGHTING ABOUT MY THINGS. THAT WOULD HORRIFY ME. SHE SAYS IT'S ALARMING HOW MANY PEOPLE IN NZ DON'T HAVE A WILL - 70% AGED BETWEEN 24 AND 44 DON'T. SO SHE'S NOW ON A ONE-WOMAN DRIVE TO GET PEOPLE TO WRITE WILLS. SHE'S OFFERING THEM ONLINE FOR LESS THAN 50 BUCKS. SHE SAYS SHE'LL LOSE MONEY. SHE DOESN'T CARE. I'M PROBABLY NEVER GOING TO GET TO COST RECOVERY AT $49.95, BUT THE WHOLE POINT OF IT IS TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO DO THEIR WILLS. IT'S NOT REALLY A COMMERCIAL VENTURE. BECAUSE- AND WHAT IT DOES IS IT JUST TAKE YOU THROUGH IT, SO IT'S REALLY EASY. BUT THE GOOD THING ABOUT IT IS THAT ONCE YOU START IT, YOU HAVE TO CONFRONT YOUR OWN MORTALITY, YOU HAVE TO SAY TO YOURSELF, 'ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF I DIE, IF MY PARTNER DIES, 'THEN WHAT HAPPENS TO THE KIDS? WHO DO WE GETAS GUARDIAN, AND WHEN DO THEY GET THEIR MONEY?' AND, OK, 'THIS IS MY MEMO OF WISHES NOW.' OK, 'WHO IS GOING TO GET MY JEWELLERY COLLECTION?' YEAH, THATS VITAL. > NOW.' OK, 'WHO IS GOING TO GET MY JEWELLERY COLLECTION?' YEAH, THAT'S VITAL. > WELL, AMANDA, AS YOU AND I KNOW, THAT IS VITAL. (LAUGHS) > WELL, AMANDA, AS YOU AND I KNOW, THAT IS VITAL. (LAUGHS) > MY SHOE COLLECTION, WELL, WHOEVER CAN WEAR IT CAN HAVE IT. HER IDEA IS IF YOU SORT YOUR DEATH OUT, YOU CAN START TO ENJOY THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. SHE BELIEVES THAT SO PASSIONATELY, SHE'S EVEN TURNED HERSELF INTO AN INTERVIEWER, ASKING A STRING OF PROMINENT NZERS ABOUT THEIR PERSONAL STORIES. HOW THEY HAVE CLEARED THE WAY SO THEY CAN GET ON WITH THEIR LIVES. I THINK YOUR LEGACY IS IN THE MINDS OF YOUR CHILDREN. MM. THE MINDS OF YOUR CHILDREN. MM. YOUR MINDS OF YOUR GRANDKIDS. I REALLY REALISED THAT I WASN'T AFRAID OF DYING. BUT I KNEW HOW MUCH I WANTED TO LIVE. I COULD ACTUALLY DIE A REALLY REALLY HAPPY PERSON, BECAUSE I'VE DONE EVERYTHING THAT I WANTED TO DO SO FAR WITH THE TIME THAT I'VE GOT. SO YOU HAVE ALL OF THESE ISSUES, AND YOU CAN'T JUST DEAL WITH THEM IN A DOCUMENT. SO WHY DOES SHE NEED TO DO THIS? WHYARE SO MANY KIWIS SO RELUCTANT TO HAVE WILLS? BECAUSE NOBODY LIKES THINKING ABOUT DEATH. THEY JUST DON'T. AND IT'S LIKE THAT IN ALMOST EVERY CULTURE. MAORI AREN'T GOOD AT IT EITHER. IN FACT, YOU KNOW, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE REST OF THE STORY, MAORI ARE PARTICULARLY NOT GOOD AT THIS, BECAUSE CULTURALLY, IT'S ALMOST TABOO. IT'S, LIKE, 'WELL, YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT, BECAUSE IT'S TAPU, 'AND IF YOU TALK ABOUT IT, YOU MIGHT BRING IT ON.' BUT, YOU KNOW, THE ASIAN CULTURES ARE NO BETTER. AND ALL I'M SAYING TO YOU IS WHY WOULD YOU LEAVE YOURSELF IN THAT SITUATION? SO AFTER ALL THE FIGHTING, ALL THE EXPENSE, HAVE GEORGE AND RICHARD MADE SURE THEIR OWN CHILDREN DON'T GO THROUGH THE SAME HORRIFIC EXPERIENCE? HAVE THEY WRITTEN WILLS THEMSELVES? WELL, IASKED THEM. GEORGE SAID YES. INCREDIBLY, RICHARD SAID NO. AND ON THAT NOTE, I HAVE A CONFESSION - I DON'T HAVE ONE EITHER. BUT IT'S ABOUT TIME I DID SOMETHING ABOUT IT. YES, WELL, AMANDA SITS DOWN TO WRITE A WILL, BUT SHE FINDS OUT IT'S NOT QUITE AS STRAIGHTFORWARD AS YOU MIGHT THINK. YEAH, JUST HOW DO YOU ENSURE THAT YOUR LOVED ONES DON'T SQUABBLE OVER THE JEWELLERY AND THE SHOES AND THE BOAT AND... THE SHARES - THE PORTFOLIO OF SHARES THAT YOUR MUM OR DAD MIGHT HAVE'? THAT'S NEXT. # Gotta make my mind up. # Which seat can I take? # It's Friday, Friday. # Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody... We're saying a big thank you to our customers. # ...weekend. # Friday, Friday. # Gettin' down on Friday. Vodafone Fantastic Fridays, with movies, music and sports experiences or pre-pay deals. # Panyin', panyin'. # HE TAKES US TO THE CRASH SITE AND ASKS WHO'S TO BLAME? RIGHT, WELCOME BACK. WELL, AMANDA GILLIES, HAS SEEN WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T WRITE A WILL AND IF YOU GET ITALL WRONG. GILLIES, HAS SEEN WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU DON'T WRITE A WILL AND IF YOU GET ITALL WRONG. AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO MAKE THE SAME MISTAKE HERSELF, SO ITS TIME FOR HER TO DO WHAT HAS TO BE DONE. WITH APPREHENSION, I ARRIVE AT THE PUBLIC TRUST - THE COUNTRY'S BIGGEST PROVIDER OF WILLS. ABOUT 12,000 ARE WRITTEN HERE EVERY YEAR. ADD ONE MORE TO THAT. I'M FINALLY READY TO SIGN UP. I FIND IT QUITE DEPRESSING, COS IT'S THE FIRST TIME YOU ACTUALLY HAVE TO REALLY THINK ABOUT DEATH. IT IS. AND I THINK THEREIN LIES THE ISSUE. UM, YOU'VE JUSTARTICULATED WHAT IT IS MOST PEOPLE FEEL, AND THEREFORE, WE DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. TO GET PEOPLE TALKING AND SIGNING UP, THE PUBLIC TRUST HAS GONE PUBLIC. A MASSIVE CAMPAIGN IS UNDERWAY TO GET PEOPLE - IN PARTICULAR, YOUNG MUMS AND DADS - TO SORT THEIR AFFAIRS. IT'S WHAT CAUGHT MY ATFENTION. IT IS ALARMING. 70% OF PEOPLE WITH YOUNG CHILDREN DON'T HAVE WILLS. THAT MEANS IF SOMETHING HAPPENS TO THEM, ESPECIALLY IF IT'S TO BOTH PARTIES- BOTH PARTNERS AT THE SAME TIME, THOSE CHILDREN ARE LEFT IN THE HANDS OF THE FAMILY COURT. MATI' SALE WARNED ME EVERY WILL CAN BE CHALLENGED, SO IT'S NOT ENOUGH JUST TO SIGN UP. I NEED TO MAKE SURE MINE IS WATERTIGHT FROM THE START, BECAUSE FAMILY FEUDS CAN HAPPEN EVEN WHEN YOU DO HAVE A WILL. TAKE GRANDMA BEV. SHE HAD ONE FOR YEARS, AND WHEN SHE DIED, IT LOOKED LIKE EVERYTHING WOULD BE STRAIGHTFORWARD. SHE LEFT HER HALF-A-MILLION-DOLLAR SOUTH ISLAND HOUSE TO HER THREE SONS AND THREE GRANDCHILDREN EQUALLY. SIMPLE. NO FIGHT. NO PROBLEM. NO WAY. EVEN AT THE BEDSIDE, THAT FAMILY Ll'l'I'LE BIT, 'I WANT THIS.' YOU KNOW, 'I WANT THE TRAILER.' LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAPPENS, AND SO THE SCENE WAS SET, PRETTY MUCH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAPPENS, THE BODY WAS STILL WARM. > MUCH. LIKE, YOU KNOW, IT JUST HAPPENS, THE BODY WAS STILL WARM. > YEP. THE SCENE WAS SET RIGHT THERE. UM, YEAH, SO AGAIN, PARENTS, YOU THINK YOUR KIDS DON'T DO THAT, WAIT TILL YOU DIE. (CHUCKLES) BEVERLY, MY MOTHER, HAS APPOINTED THE THREE SONS AS TRUSTEES AND EXECUTORS. THE OLDEST BROTHER, MURRAY, THOUGHT HIS MUM'S WILL WASN'T WATERTIGHT ENOUGH. HE FEARED ONE OF HIS BROTHERS MIGHT GET MORE THAN HIS FAIR SHARE. SO WHAT DID YOU DO? BATTLED LAWYERS . (LAUGHS) FOR FIVE YEARS. ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH COURT. YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR BROTHER IS OVER? IT'S DONE? ALL THE WAY TO THE HIGH COURT. YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR BROTHER IS OVER? IT'S DONE? OH YEAH. YEP. YEAH. NO, I HAVE NO WISH TO HAVE ANY PART OF IT. THIS- WE WERE NOT THAT CLOSE AT THE START, UM, BUT THE BEHAVIOUR HERE NOW, IT'S JUST NOT A PERSON I WANT ANYTHING TO DO WITH. IT'S... I THINK ANY CHANCE OF A FAMILY GETTING ANY CLOSER AFTER A DEATH, COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. A FAMILY GETTING ANY CLOSER AFTER A DEATH, COMPLETELY THE OPPOSITE. YEAH, WE HAVE SPOKEN TO YOUR BROTHER. HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH YOU. AND I'M GONNA USE HIS WORDS - HE CALLS YOU A DICK. BROTHER. HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH YOU. AND I'M GONNA USE HIS WORDS - HE CALLS YOU A DICK. (LAUGHS) YOU KNOW, HOW DO YOU FEELABOUT THAT, AND WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT? > UM, WELL, I KNOW AN AWFUL LOTABOUT HIS HISTORY, AND AGAIN, WHILE- IT JUST DOESN'T SURPRISE ME. DOESN'T SURPRISE ME AT ALL. MURRAY AND HIS BROTHERS WERE FORCED TO SHELL OUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS FROM THEIR INHERITANCE TO SORT IT ALL OUT. THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE BENEFITED ARE LAWYERS, REALLY? > TO SORT IT ALL OUT. THE ONLY ONES WHO HAVE BENEFITED ARE LAWYERS, REALLY? > I THINK THATS A FAIR COMMENT. ROB SOMERVILLE WAS ONE OF MURRAY'S LAWYERS. WHAT WOULD HAVE BEEN THE BEST THING FOR THAT MOTHER TO HAVE DONE? > IN HINDSIGHT, SHE NEEDED TO FIND SOMEONE OTHER THAN THE BROTHERS TO BE THE EXECUTOR IN THE WILL. RIGHT. AND THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST THINGS I'M WARNED ABOUT. GRANDMA BEV APPOINTED HER OWN SONS AS EXECUTORS. THEY WERE ALL IN CHARGE OF THE WILL. I'M ENCOURAGED TO APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT EXECUTOR, NOT A MEMBER OF MY FAMILY. YOU'VE ALSO GOT TO BEAR IN MIND THAT IF YOU ARE APPOINTING A FAMILY MEMBER, THEY HAVE JUST LOST SOMEONE THEY LOVE. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE GRIEVING. UM, IS THAT WHAT THEY WANT TO BE FOCUSING ON RIGHT NOW? GOOD ADVICE. BUT IT COMES ATA PRICE. THE PUBLIC TRUST CHARGES UP TO $300 TO WRITE A WILL. THAT'S SIGNIFICANTLY MORE THAN LAWYER MAI CHEN'S NEW ONLINE SERVICE. YOU CAN GET SOME ONLINE FOR 49.95. MM-HM. YOU CAN GET SOME ONLINE FOR 49.95. MM-HM. WHY CAN I GET IT SO CHEAP THERE? WHATS THE DIFFERENCE? I THINK THE KEY DIFFERENCE IS THE EXPERTISE THAT YOU ARE GETTING AND THE ADVICE COMPONENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF CLIENTS WHO COME IN AND THINK THEIR SITUATION IS QUITE SIMPLE AND STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S ACTUALLY NOT. AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU DON'T KNOW. SO THIS IS WHAT I DO END UP KNOWING - 1) APPOINT AN INDEPENDENT EXECUTOR; 2) MAKE SURE EVERYTHING IS CRYSTAL CLEAR AND WRITTEN DOWN; 3) MOST IMPORTANTLY, GET ON WITH IT. WHATEVER THE COST, IT WILL PROVE PRICELESS. AND IT ACTUALLY ONLY TAKES ABOUT AN HOUR TO DO MINE. SO IT HAS BEEN DONE. IT HAS BEEN SIGNED OFF. IT WASN'T THAT PAINFUL. IN FACT, IT WAS QUITE LIBERATING. AT AGE 37, I FINALLY HAVE A WILL. RIGHT, WELL, SHE'S DONE IT. ARE YOU SORTED? ARE YOU ALL ORGANISED? HAVE YOU GOTA WILL? UH, ITHINK I NEED TO MAKE MINE CLEARER, ACTUALLY. YOU GOTA WILL? UH, I THINK I NEED TO MAKE MINE CLEARER, ACTUALLY. OK, YOU GOTTA SORT THINGS OUT. I DO. I NEED TO MAKE SURE I LEAVE THOSE DEBTS AND LIABILITIES, UM, TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE. I'VE NEVER EVEN THOUGHT ABOUT IT. (LAUGHS) ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BE DISCUSSING ALL THOSE STORIES ON MY RADIO LIVE DRIVE PROGRAMME TOMORROW, ALONG WITH ANOTHER BREAKING STORY, WHICH WILL HAPPEN TOMORROW. THIS IS A STORY WE'VE BEEN FOLLOWING CLOSELY... VERY CLOSELY. BEEN FOLLOWING CLOSELY... VERY CLOSELY. ...HERE AT 3RD DEGREE. IT'S THE RELEASE OF A POLICE COMPLAINTS AUTHORITY REPORT INTO THE CASE OF SERIAL RAPIST MALCOLM REWA. WELL, FOR NOW, THAT'S ALL FOR US HERE AT 3RD DEGREE. WE'LL BE BACK NEXT WEDNESDAY. WE'LL CATCH YOU THEN. CAPTIONSWEREIMDEPOSSIBLE WITHFIMDINGFROIINZONAIR.