NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. COPYRIGHTABLE 2014 I NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. KIA ORA. GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO 3RD DEGREE. TONIGHT WE VENTURE DEEP UNDERGROUND NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. I To A FORGOTTEN WORLD. I THIS WORLD UNDERGROUND, WE'RE TOLD, HAS AN OVERLORD, I AND YOU ONLY GO DOWN BY INVITATION. I I YOU OK? I IYEAH. I PLUS, THE CHURCH MINISTER AND THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. IS THAT THE CHURCH MINISTER? IT'S THE CHURCH MINISTER?! WELL, FIRST OF ALL, OUR MINISTER HAD AWIFE, AND, YEAH, A RELATIONSHIP, AND SO TO SEE HIM WITH ANOTHER WOMAN WAS KINDA... [EH AND so TO SEE HIM wm-a ANOTHER WOMAN WAS KINDA... [EH YES. ANOTHER WOMAN WAS KINDA... BUT FIRST, MICHAEL MORRAH'S BEEN TALKING TO JUSTIN RYS. NOW, JUSTIN IS A CHAMPION OR WAS A CHAMPION BODYBUILDER, AND HE WON ALL SORTS OF TOP COMPETITIONS. HE WAS BIG. HE WAS BRONZED. HE THOUGHT HE WAS INDESTRUCTIBLE. BUT THE PROBLEM WAS TO GET THAT BIG, HE EXPERIMENTED WITH ALL SORTS OF SUBSTANCES. AND THE RESULT? WELL, THE RESULT WAS HORRIFIC, ACTUALLY. SUBSTANCES. AND THE RESULT? WELL, THE RESULT WAS HORRIFIC, ACTUALLY. NOT GOOD. ITS LIFE-THREATENING NOW, COS JUSTIN IS NO LONGER THE PHYSICAL SPECIMEN HE ONCE WAS. BUT HE DOESN'T WANT YOUR SYMPATHY. JUSTIN IS NO LONGER THE PHYSICAL SPECIMEN HE ONCE WAS. BUT HE DOESN'T WANT YOUR SYMPATHY. HE DOESN'T, BUT HE DOES HAVE A MESSAGE, AN IMPORTANT MESSAGE FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE WHO ARE LOOKING FOR THE PERFECT BODY. ISODBREMUSICI HE WAS THE MR BIG OF NZ BODYBUILDING. NOW HE CAN BARELY COPE WITH A SHORT WALK ON THE BEACH. I (PANTS) WHOA. I I JUSTIN RYS'S BODY IS FAILING HIM. I BASICALLY SOMETHING IS HAPPENING TO MY BRAIN. I THE DOCTORS DON'T KNOW. I I CAN'T SPEAK; I COLLAPSE ALL THE TIME; I'M DRIBBLING HEAPS. I r-us HEART ls envme OUT TOO. I IN FACT, JUSTIN'S PROSPECTS IN GENERAL ARE NOT GOOD. IN HIS HEYDAY JUSTIN VVAS MR NZ, MR AUSTRALASIA AND MR OCEANIA. TO MAKE HIMSELF THIS BIG, HE TOOK ANY KIND OF DRUG HE COULD LAY HIS HANDS ON, INCLUDING STEROIDS. THIS IS WHAT HE TOLD US SIX YEARS AGO. I WAS JUST DOING AT THE TIME WHAT I THOUGHTI SHOULD'VE BEEN DOING AND AT THE TIME I WAS JUST REALLY SELFISH AND JUST DIDN'T EVEN CONSIDER ANYONE. YOU KNOW, ALL I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS GETTING MY DRUGS AND THAT'S ALL I THOUGHT ABOUT. BUT JUSTIN WAS CAUGHT IMPORTING THE ILLEGAL DRUG FANTASY, AND HE WAS SENT TO JAIL. AT THAT TIME I USED MY BODY AS A SCIENCE EXPERIMENT. I WOULD JUST TRY THIS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED; DO THIS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED; TRY SOME GROWTH HORMONE, TRY SOME IGF, SOME ALBUTEROL; TRY STEROIDS. JUST DO EVERYTHING I COULD JUST TO TRYAND SEE WHAT WOULD HAPPEN. I WELL, THIS ls WHAT HAPPENED. I AS HE TALKS TO ME NOW, JUSTIN'S SPEECH IS SLURRED, HE SPITS, AND SOMETIMES HE STRUGGLES TO MAKE SENSE. I YOU'RE CLEARLY UPSET? I I YEAH, I MEAN, WHO WOULDN'T BE? I YEAH, I MEAN, I ENJOY HAVING FUN, AND I ENJOY HAVING A LAUGH, AND I HAVE LOTS OF GOOD FRIENDS. LOTS OF PEOPLE ARE THERE FOR ME, BUT IT STILL DOESN'T MAKE IT ANY EASIER. YOU ARE SERIOUSLY UNWELL AT THE MOMENT. ARE YOU STILL USING STEROIDS? I NAH, MATE. I'VE LOST 20- 25K- SORRY. I ...25KG OF MUSCLE. I HAVEN'T EVEN TRAINED AT ALL. NO. I TOTAL HONESTY - NO STEROIDS? I I HAVEN'T DONE ANYTHING FORA LONG, LONG TIME. OH, IT'S A BIT... I MIGHT NEED A HAND THERE. SICKAS JUSTIN IS, HE STILL STRUGGLES TO STAY AWAY FROM THE WEIGHTS. I JUSTIN ls LIFTING 55 KILOS. I I HE useo To BE ABLE TO LIFT 13o. I EVEN WITH THE LIGHTER WEIGHT, HE CAN'T MAKE IT TO 10. YOU SOUND EXHAUSTED, MATE. WHY DO YOU STILL PUT YOURSELF THROUGH THIS? WHY NOT GIVE ITA REST? WHATAM I GOING TO DO? SIT ON MY ARSE AND DO NOTHING? (PANTS) THIS HAS BEEN PART OF YOUR LIFE, I GUESS? > ON MY ARSE AND DO NOTHING? (PANTS) IS THIS ABOUT DOING SOMETHING YOU LOVE OR YOU DO IT BECAUSE YOU STILL WANNA GET BIGGER? I NAH, I'M SMALL. I'M TINY THESE DAYS. I IT'S SOMETHING I LOVE NOW. THIS IS ME SKINNY. AS JUSTIN RYS SHUFFLES THROUGH WELLINGTON AIRPORT, PEOPLE CAN'T HELP BUT STARE AT THE MAN WHO WAS ONCE PETER JACKSON'S MODEL FOR KING KONG. IT'S THE DAY BEFORE HIS 38TH BIRTHDAY, AND HE'S HERE TO MEET AN OLD FRIEND. I HOW ARE YOU, BRO? I I soon To SEE YOU. I I ARE YOU FEELING 0K? I I DEON HAS FLOWN m FROM AUSTRALIA. I YOU RIGHT? DEON HAS FLOWN IN FROM AUSTRALIA. YOU RIGHT? YEP. THEY BOTH REALISE IT MIGHT BE THE LAST TIME THEY SEE EACH OTHER. I YOU'RE CRYING. DON'T MAKE ME CRY. I JUSTIN KNOWS 2O YEARS OF TAKING STEROIDS AND OTHER ILLEGAL DRUGS ARE PARTLY TO BLAME FOR HIS HEALTH, I AND NOW HE HAS AWARNING FOR OTHERS. I I YOU ARE NOT INDESTRUCTIBLE? I YES, THAT IS ONE THING THAT I REALLY WANT TO TELL PEOPLE. EVEN THOUGH WHEN YOU ARE YOUNGER AND YOU THINK YOU CAN JUST DO ANYTHING, WILL NEVER GET HURT, WHAT YOU WANT - THAT'S A LOAD OF BOLLOCKS. YOU DO THIS, YOU CAN HURT YOURSELF, YOU CAN LOOK LIKE ME: YOU CAN BE DRIBBLING; YOU CAN REALLY KILL YOURSELF. AND IT'S NOT FUN. IT'S ASTONISHING THAT HE'S STILL TRYING TO WORK OUT, TO BE HONEST. IT LOOKS LIKE AN ADDICTION, DOESN'T IT? YOU WOULD THINK HE'D GIVE ITA REST, BUT JUSTIN DOES ACTUALLY HAVE A DISORDER. IT'S CALLED BODY DYSMORPHIA. NOW, THIS IS A REAL CONDITION, AND FOR HIM IT MEANS THAT NO MATTER HOW BIG HE GETS, HE STILL DOESN'T THINK HE'S BIG ENOUGH. THERE'S NO DOUBT THE STEROIDS HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO HIS POOR HEALTH, BUT JUSTIN ALSO THINKS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING ELSE THAT'S ALSO RESPONSIBLE. STAY WITH US. SO. JUSTIN RYS IS SERIOUSLY UNWELL AFTER YEARS OF PUMPING HIS BODY FULL OF ALL SORTS OF SUBSTANCES, TRYING TO INCREASE HIS MUSCLE AND HIS SIZE. YEAH, BUT IT'S NOT JUST THE ILLEGAL STUFF THAT HE'S PUT INTO HIS BODY. JUSTIN'S ALSO WORRIED ABOUT SOME OF THE SO-CALLED HEALTH SUPPLEMENTS THAT HE'S TAKEN. HE'S ALSO SOLD SOME OF THESE THINGS TO OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. YES, HE'S TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE FAT BURNERS AND THESE PRE-WORKOUT POWDERS THAT HE'S TAKEN. I HERE'S MICHAEL MORRAH AGAIN. I JUSTIN RYS IS TAKING SOME TIME OUT TO PREPARE HIS DAILY DOSE OF PRESCRIPTION DRUGS. THIS ONE STOPS ME SPEWING IT ALL BACK UP AGAIN. HE TAKES DOZENS OF PILLS. MOST OF THEM ARE FOR HIS HEART. I WHAT noes r-us HEART LOOK LIKE? I WELL, IT IS BIG, BUT IT'S ALSO DILATED AND FLOPPY BECAUSE IT DOESN'T CONTRACT VERY WELL. DR STEWART MANN IS JUSTIN'S CARDIOLOGIST. HE'S BEEN GIVEN PERMISSION TO TALK ABOUT JUSTIN'S CONDITION, ACONDITION HE DESCRIBES AS A DIAGNOSTIC PUZZLE. WHAT IS THE LIKELY PROGNOSIS FOR JUSTIN? IT'S NOT LOOKING PARTICULARLY GOOD AT THE MOMENT. NOT NECESSARILY JUST BECAUSE OF THE HEART BUT BECAUSE THERE ARE OTHER PROBLEMS AS WELL. JUSTIN'S PROBLEMS MAY NOT BE CAUSED JUST BY ILLEGAL DRUGS. BUT ALSO BY OVER-THE-COUNTER SUPPLEMENTS, SUPPLEMENTS DR MANN IS EXTREMELY CONCERNED ABOUT. I DEAL MAINLY IN ORTHODOX PHARMACEUTICALS. AND ALTHOUGH THAT WORLD ISN'T PERFECT, WE AT LEAST HAVE CONTROLLED INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THE POSITIVE AND NEGATIVE EFFECTS THERE CAN BE OF PHARMACEUTICALS. A LOT OF THE SUPPLEMENTS ARE SOLD AS FOODS AND ARE NOT SUBJECT TO THE SAME SORTS OF SCIENTIFIC RIGOUR IN TESTING, NOR OF QUALITY CONTROL. WE ALREADY KNOW SOME OF THESE SUPPLEMENTS ARE POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. LAST YEAR 3RD DEGREE TESTED THREE POPULAR PRE-WORKOUT PILLS AND POWDERS. AND ALL THREE WERE FOUND TO CONTAIN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCES, INCLUDING SYNTHETIC AMPHETAMINES. AND 15 MORE ARE CURRENTLY UNDER GOVERNMENT INVESTIGATION. VICTORIA FAINT IS A FRIEND OF JUSTIN AND A COMPETITION WINNING BODYBUILDER. SHE KNOWS ALL TOO WELL THESE LEGAL SUPPLEMENTS CAN BE RISKY. LAST YEAR SHE TOOK A SUBSTANCE THAT MADE HER VERY SICK INDEED. IT STARTED WITH HEADACHES, AND CLAMMY SKIN THEN IT BECAME A LOT WORSE. MY STOMACH JUST STARTED TO BLOW UP, AND THEN I COULDN'T PEE. ALL THESE THINGS STARTED HAPPENING. THEY TESTED FOR STEROIDS. THERE WAS NO STEROIDS BECAUSE I HADN'T BEEN USING THEM THEN AND THEYASKED ME WHAT KIND OF SUPPLEMENTS I'D BEEN TAKING. I TOLD THEM THE PROTEIN POWDERS AND ALL THAT. I WENT IN THERE WITH ABS AND THEN BY DAY FOUR, I LOOKED LIKE I WAS ABOUT EIGHT MONTHS PREGNANT, SO THEY STARTED FREAKING OUTAS WELL. THEY SAID IN ONE OF THE TESTS THE LIVER WAS INFLAMED, I HAD AN INFECTION, AND THEY WERE PUTTING IT DOWN TO SOME KIND OF HEPATITIS VIRUS. THE PROTEIN POWDER SHE WAS TAKING WAS CALLED OXYELITE PRO, WHICH HAS CAUSED ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS. 5O PEOPLE CAUGHT HEPATITIS AFTER USING IT IN THE STATES. TWO PEOPLE NEEDED LIVER TRANSPLANTS, AND ANOTHER EVEN DIED. JUSTIN USED TO SELL OXYELITE PRO HIMSELF AT HIS SUPPLEMENT SHOP. AND DOES IT MAKE YOU SAD COMING BACK AND SEEING THE SIGN? HIMSELF AT HIS SUPPLEMENT SHOP. HE WAS FORCED INTO BANKRUPTCY BECAUSE OF HIS ILLNESS, AND NOW THE SHOP IS CLOSED SUPPLEMENTS ARE IMPORTANT AS LONG AS YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TAKING, SWEET AS. BUT IF YOU HAVE SUPPLEMENTS AND HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU'RE USING, THEN THAT'S STUPID. YOU'VE BEEN CRITICAL OF SOME SUPPLEMENTS, BUT AT THE SAME TIME YOU'VE SOLD SOME THAT HURT PEOPLE ? I I HAD NO IDEA. ll= I KNEWABOUT IT... l I HAVE MY FRIEND WHO GOT HEPATITIS FROM A SUPPLEMENT THAT I SOLD. THAT ABSOLUTELY HURT THE HELL OUT OF ME. I HATED IT. I IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY FOR JUSTIN. I TALKING TO US HAS TAKEN IT OUT OF HIM. WHOAI TAKEN IT OUT OF HIM. WHOAI YOU ALL RIGHT? HE LOSES HIS BALANCE FOR NO REASON. I WANT To so nusnae? I AND NOW HE NEEDS TO REST, ESPECIALLY AS IT'S HIS BIRTHDAY TOMORROW. I HIBBUB, DANCE IMJSIO PLAYING I BY THE TIME OF THE BIG NIGHT, JUSTIN'S RECOVERED HIS EQUILIBRIUM. THE PARTY THEME IS COPS AND ROBBERS, A LITTLE IN-JOKE FOR JUSTIN. I IAM so NAUGHTY, AREN'T n? I PEOPLE HAVE COME FROM ALL OVER TO CELEBRATE THEIR FRIENDSHIP WITH MR BIG. I I LOVE THIS MAN. I JUSTIN HAS HELD OFF GOING TO HOSPITAL JUST SO HE CAN BE HERE TONIGHT. HE'S DETERMINED TO PUT ON A GOOD FACE, SURROUNDED BY HIS MATES. IALLSING HAPPY BIRTHDAY I BUT TONIGHT YOU CAN TELL IT'S A BIT OF STRUGGLE, AND AT TIMES HE FEELS QUITE OVERWHELMED. NOW HE SAYS ALL HE WANTS IS FOR OTHER PEOPLE TO BENEFIT FROM HIS MISTAKES. ALL I WANT IS PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND THAT IF YOU DON'T DO IT PROPERLY, YOU END UP JUST LIKE THE WAY IAM. AND I DON'T RECOMMEND THAT IN THE SLIGHTEST. AND TWO DAYS AFTER WE FINISHED FILMING WITH JUSTIN, HE WAS ADMITTED TO HOSPITAL, WHERE HE SPENTA WEEK UNDER SPECIALIST CARE. HE'S NOT WELL. HE'S NOT WELL. HE WAS RELEASED, BUT HE HAS ACTUALLY RETURNED TODAY FOR FURTHER TESTS. ALL RIGHT, WHEN WE COME BACK, A PARALLEL UNIVERSE RIGHT UNDER THE FEET OF SHOPPERS AND COMMUTERS. IF THEY HAD A CLUB NIGHT IN HELL, IT WOULD FEEL LIKE THIS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? IF THEY HAD A CLUB NIGHT IN HELL, IT WOULD FEEL LIKE THIS. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? THAT SAYS 'BRUCE LEE - KING OF THE SEWERS'. OK, THIS STORY IS ABOUT A MOST BIZARRE TWILIGHT WORLD THAT EXISTS UNNOTICED BENEATH ONE OF EUROPE'S BIGGEST CITIES. IT'S BIZARRE, ISN'T IT? IT IS, YEAH. UNDERNEATH THE BOULEVARDS OF BUCHAREST, THERE'S A WHOLE KINGDOM OF, WELL, THEY'RE OUTCASTS, AND MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR TWO DECADES. YEAH, THEY'VE BEEN THERE EVER SINCE THE FALL OF COMMUNISM AND THE CLOSURE OF ROMANIA'S -AND THEY WERE NOTORIOUS - ORPHANAGES - WEREN'T THEY? YEAH, THEY WERE. NOW, SINCE THEN, SINCE THE DAYS OF PRESIDENT CEAUSESCU, ROMANIA HAS MODERNISED. IT'S NOW PART OF THE EU, THE EUROPEAN UNION. YEAH, BUT PARAIC O'BRIEN HAS DISCOVERED A PART OF THE CITY THAT REMAINS DOWNTRODDEN. I THIS ls LITERALLY UNDERFOOT. I YOU CAN TRAVEL TO THE HEART OF THE EU FROM THE STATION IN BUCHAREST, BUT OUR JOURNEY IS JUST A FEW METRES. ON THE SURFACE, THE NEWEST MEMBER TO THE CLUB HAS WORKED HARD TO REDEFINE ITSELF, BUT THERE'S AANOTHER ROMANIA UNDERGROUND. PEWLE CHATTER, MACHINERY HIMS ROMANIA UNDERGROUND. PEOPLE CHATTER, MACHINERY Hunts - COMING DOVVN. THIS IS THE ENTRANCE TO BUCHARESTS UNDERWORLD. Inomsmalal BY LATE AFTERNOON, OUTSIDE THE STATION, THEY START TO WAKE UP, CLAMBERING UP OUT OF THE GROUND, DISORIENTATED. GYPSY, YES? DISORIENTATED. GYPSY, YES? (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) <i>I</i> AMONG THEM, A LITTLE BOY, moo. <i>I</i> HE AGREES TO SEND WORD DOWN THAT WE'D LIKE TO MEET THE BOSS. THEN WE WAIT FOR THE INVITE. THIS WORLD UNDERGROUND, WE'RE TOLD, HAS AN OVERLORD, I AND YOU ONLY GO DOWN BY INVITATION. I A COUPLE OF HOURS LATER, AND WE'RE TOLD HE'LL SEE US NOW. I PARAIC?I I YEAH? I YEAH? H YOU OK? WHAT? H YOU OK? WHAT? YOU OK? YEAH. Imcnlrmvwnlnns I ON OUR HANDS AND KNEES, WE POTHOLE INTO A PARALLEL UNIVERSE. Imcnlrmvwnlnns I IT'S THE HEAT THAT HITS YOU FIRST. THE CAMERA LENS STEAMS UP. IPEOPLESPEAKROMANIAN I I THEN THE MUSIC KICKS m. I IDANOEMUSICPLAYSI IF THEY HAD A CLUB NIGHT IN HELL, IT WOULD FEEL LIKE THIS. IDANOEMUSICPLAYSI WHEN YOUR EYES ADJUST, YOU'RE IN THE FIRST CHAMBER. THEY CALL IT THE OFFICE. I THESE ARE THE LOST ones. I THE CHILDREN SPEWED OUT BY THE OLD COMMUNIST ORPHANAGES HAVE HAD KIDS OF THEIR OWN. IJAZZYQISIOPLAYS,PEOPLECHATTER I I MUSIC CONTIMJES PLAYING I WHEN CEAUSESCU FELL, THERE WERE NEARLY 50,000 OF THEM IN STATE INSTITUTIONS I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I ALMOST EVERYONE HERE IS HIV-POSITIVE. A QUARTER HAVE TB. THEY'RE ALL MAKING THEIR WAY TO THE COUNTER. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I THE MAN ON THE OTHER SIDE IS CALLED BRUCE LEE AFTER HIS STREET-FIGHTING DAYS. HE SUPPLIES THE DRUGS. HE CALLS THE SHOTS. IDANOEIMJSIOPIAYSJEOPLEOHATTEI I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I I no YOU WANT SOME COFFEE? I DO YOU WANT SOME COFFEE? YEAH. YES, PLEASE. YES, PLEASE. THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I IDANOEMUSICPLAYSI I WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I THIS IS BRUCE LEE, KING OF THE SEWERS. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I IISEE.l I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I IPEOPLESPEAKROMANIAN I <i>I</i> LITTLE PUSSY CATS. LITTLE CATS. <i>I</i> I (MEWS) I ON THE CABINET WHERE HE KEEPS THE DRUGS, A PHOTO OF THE LITTLE BOY WE MET OUTSIDE, NICO. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I IT'S NOT JUST COFFEE AND CAT FOOD ON THE COUNTER. FOR THE EQUIVALENT OF SOP, HE SELLS BAGS OF A METALLIC PAINT CALLED AUROLAC . A SYNTHETIC DRUG SIMILAR TO METHADONE IS ALSO ON OFFER AND INJECTED. SO, I THINK BRUCE LEE HAS ASKED US TO GO TO SEE SOME OF THE OTHER ROOMS, AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY CLEANING THE CORRIDOR AHEAD OF OUR IMMINENT ARRIVAL. MAN SPEAKS ROMANIAN THE CORRIDOR AHEAD OF OUR IMMINENT ARRIVAL. MAN SPEAKS ROMANIAN THE CORRIDOR AHEAD OF OUR GIVE THE BAG, MAN. I 00H. I I BRUCE LEE IS WARMING TO US. I <i>I</i> TIME FOR THE TOUR AND FURTHER m. <i>I</i> IMANSPEAIQROMANIAN I I ALL GOOD. I THE TUNNELS WERE PART OF CEAUSESCU'S GRAND DESIGN To CENTRALLY HEAT THE I NOWA SWELTERING DRUG DEN. I uuauuslcmvsl I WHOA. I I'VE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THIS, TO BE HONEST. THERE'S THIS NETWORK OF TUNNELS. AND THIS IS QUITE AN HONOUR, I GATHER. WE'VE BEEN INVITED INTO BRUCE LEE'S ROOM. THIS IS HIS BEDROOM. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I THERE IS, BIZARRELY, ATWISTED ORDER TO BRUCE LEE'S FIEFDOM. SOCIAL WORKERS TOLD US HE TRIES TO PROTECT THE YOUNG ONES FROM SEXUAL PREDATORS AND THAT ADDICTS ARE LESS LIKELY TO DIE DOWN HERE, BECAUSE HE OFFERS THEM A SORT OF SAFETYAND A WARM PLACE TO SLEEP. SO, WE'VE JUST BEEN TOLD WE'RE, UM, BEING BROUGHT TO ANOTHER SECTION OF THIS... STRANGE COMMUNITY. IT'S CALLED THE HOTEL, AND ITS BASICALLY, UM, LIKE A HOSTEL UNDERGROUND. <i>L</i> PEOPLE CHATTER, MUSIC PLAYS I <i>I</i> WE Go THROUGH ROOM AFTER ROOM. <i>I</i> DURING THE WINTER MONTHS, THIS PLACE IS FULL. THIS AFTERNOON, JUST A FEW COUPLES... LYING ON THE ARTIFICIAL GRASS, HOLDING ON TO EACH OTHER. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I BRUCE LEE TALKS A LOT, BUT THE UNSPOKEN LINES OF ANOTHER STORY ARE CARVED OUT ON HIS ARMS, SELF-HARMING FROM THE ORPHANAGES AND THE PRISONS. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I I (BARKS) I HE WANTS TO TALK ABOUT NICO AGAIN, THE BOY WE MET ABOVE GROUND. HE'S NOT FROM THE OLD ORPHANAGES; HE'S THE NEW GENERATION. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I HE SAYS WE SHOULD MEET THE WOMAN WHO LOOKS AFTER NICO WITH HIM. FOR THAT, THOUGH, HE SAYS, WE HAVE TO GO UPSTAIRS AND OUT OF THE TUNNELS. IDA.l I MAN SPEAKS ROMANIAN, BIRDS CHIRP I I (GRUNTS) OH eon, FRESH AIR. I IDOGSBARKI AND THUS BEGINS THE LAST BIZARRE LEG OF THE JOURNEY. IDOGSBARKI BRUCE LEE, HIS MINDER AND ABOUT 15 DOGS... IPEOHEOHATTERI I ...TRAMPING ACROSS BUCHAREST. I I OH. (LAUGHS) I ABOVE GROUND, HE SEEMS NERVOUS. THE AUROLAC BAG PUMPING HARD. WE'RE GOING TO MEETA WOMAN CALLED RALUCA, A VOLUNTEER RUNNING A SHELTER FOR THE PEOPLE OF THE TUNNELS. I (BARKS) I lnomsmalal IBOTHSPEAKROIIANIANI IDOGSBARKI I AS WE WAIT, NICO ARRIVES. I IT TURNS OUT LITTLE NICO IS ACTUALLY 17, HIS DEVELOPMENT STUNTED BY THE DRUGS AND ABUSE. I HE HAS FULL-BLOWN AIDS. I I HA, HA, HA- I IMENOHA1TERI BRUCE LEE WON'T LET HIM INJECT ANY MORE, BUT THE SLIVER STREAKS OF AUROLAC MARK HIM OUT. IDOGSBARKI WE MOVE INSIDE TO WAIT FOR RALUCA. IN THE MEANTIME NICO TALKS ABOUT HIS TIME IN HOSPITAL LAST YEAR. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I I RALUCA EVENTUALLY ARRIVES. I FOR HER, BRUCE LEE IS DRUG DEALER WITH A HEART, BUT HE'S STILL A DRUG DEALER. YOU DISAPPROVE OF WHAT HE'S DOING? FOR HER, BRUCE LEE IS DRUG DEALER WITH A HEART, BUT HE'S STILL A DRUG DEALER. I (SPEAKS ROMANIAN) I lNO.l I YEAH, WHAT'S HE LIKE? I I YOU KNOW, I, UH... l I REALLY? > I I REALLY? > I THIS STRANGE PARTNERSHIP HAS WORKED FOR AT LEAST ONE BOY. THESE ARE, AFTER ALL, THE ONLY TWO ADULTS LEFT IN NICO'S LIFE. WE ARE A BIG FAMILYAND THE HAPPINESS. WITH MANY PROBLEMS, BUT WE ARE A FAMILY. I IT'S ALMOST NIGHT. I TIME FORA LAST DAPPLED FAMILY PORTRAIT, I FULL OF DARKNESS AND LIGHT. I I THINK THAT'S JUST BEAUTIFUL. EVEN IN THE SEWERS OF THE CITY, IN THE UNDERBELLY OF THE CITY, YOU CAN STILL FIND A BIT OF COMPASSION AND KINDNESS. NICE TO SEE. OK, UP NEXT, A CHURCH MATTER - THE MINISTER AND THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. HIS HAND WAS ON TOP OF HER HAND, SO BASICALLY THEY WERE HOLDING HANDS. I IT ls VERY WRONG. I OH, COME ON, REVEREND SPANDOW. YOUR PARISHIONERS WANTANSWERS. <i>I From $20 I</i> Ito $1 million! <i>I</i> VWih Bonus Bonds, there are thousands of cash prizes to be won every month. IN-UHOM Visit bonusbondsnonz to invest now. I # ...weekend. I I # Friday, FridaY- I I # Gotta make my mind up. I I#Whiohseatcanltake?I I # Ifs Friday, Friday. I # Gotta get down on Friday. Everybody. <i>. .</i> We're saying a big ihank you to our customers. I # ...weekend. I I # Friday, FridaY- I I# Gettin' down on Friday. I Vodafone Fantastic Fridays, with movies, music and sports experiences or pre-pay deals. I # Panyin'. paflvirf- # I WELCOME BACK. ALL RIGHT, THIS IS A STORY ABOUT THE MINISTER OF A LOCAL CHURCH WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. HMM. IS THAT COMMON? WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. HMM. IS THAT COMMON? I THINK IT SOUNDS SWEET. THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. BUT IT ENDED UP WITH ALL SORTS OF CONFLICTS. SOME OF THE LIFETIME CHURCHGOERS, THEY WERE BARRED FROM ATTENDING SERVICES. AND MORE THAN A HUNDRED OTHERS WALKED OUT IN SUPPORT OF THEM. THERE WERE ALL SORTS OF ARGUMENTS GOING ON. AT ONE POINT THE POLICE WERE EVEN CALLED, AND IT EVEN LANDED IN THE HIGH COURT. SO, SARAH HALL, SHE WENT ALONG TO FIND OUT WHAT WENT WRONG. THIS STORY STARTS WITH AN ORDINARY BUS TRIP IN 2011 - TWO KIDS SITTING IN THE BACK OF THE BUS. MINDING THEIR OWN BUSINESS, WHEN THEY SAW SOMETHING THAT SET OFF THEIR RELIGIOUS ALARM BELLS. I ls THATA CHURCH MINISTER? I I HIS HAND WAS ON TOP ol= HER HAND. I SO BASICALLY THEY WERE HOLDING HANDS. < WHAT DID YOU THINK WHEN YOU SAW IT? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, OUR MINISTER HAD AWIFE, AND YEAH, A RELATIONSHIP, AND SO TO SEE HIM WITH ANOTHER WOMAN, WAS KINDA- ODD. SEE HIM WITH ANOTHER WOMAN, WAS KINDA- ODD. SEE HIM WITH ANOTHER WOMAN, WAS AND REALLY CONFUSING. <i>L</i> CHILDREN KJRMIIR I NOW, SOME KIDS MAY HAVE LAUGHED THIS OFF, NEVER MENTIONED ITAGAIN. BUT THESE WERE GOD-FEARING PACIFIC ISLAND CHILDREN, WHO IMMEDIATELY WENT TO THEIR ELDERS. IN THE EYES OF THE PACIFIC PEOPLE, PARTICULARLY THE ELDERS, AND IN MY EYES, IT IS WRONG. I I WAS, UM, PRETTY SHOCKED. I TO MY MIND AND TO THE MINDS OF THE GROUP- OF OUR GROUP, IT IS VERY VERY WRONG. REVEREND TONY SPANDOW WAS MARRIED BUT SEPARATED AT THE TIME OF THE ALLEGED AFFAIR. THE FACT HE WASN'T DIVORCED WAS WHAT UPSET THESE CONSERVATIVE SAMOANS. ITALSO AGAINST CHURCH ETHICS FOR A MINISTER TO BE INVOLVED IN A SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP OUTSIDE OF MARRIAGE. GIVEN THEN THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY SEPARATED... ...YOU KNOW, MOST PEOPLE WOULD THINK THAT WHAT HE DID THEN WAS NOT THAT BAD. > I HE WAS SEPARATED FROM HIS WIFE. > I SEPARATED IN- IN, UM, RESIDENTIAL AREAS. <i>L</i> BUT THEY ARE STILL LEGALLY MARRIED. <i>I</i> I ACCORDING TO OUR EYES, AS SAMOANS, I I AND THE CHRISTIAN EYES, I <i>I</i> THEYARE STILL MARRIED. <i>I</i> NOW, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THE REVEREND HAS ALWAYS DENIED HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER WAS SEXUAL. BUT PARISHIONER SOTI FALE SAYS THEY FOUND HIS EXPLANATION HARD TO BELIEVE. HE SAID THAT IT'S A SPIRITUAL FRIENDSHIP. <i>L</i> WELL, <i>I MEAN... l</i> UH, I'VE NEVER HEARD THAT IN THE SCRIPTURES, SPIRITUAL FRIENDSHIP. REVEREND SPANDOW TOOK OVER ST PAUL'S IN MANUREWA IN 2010. AT THE TIME, IT WAS A VERY SUCCESSFUL MULTI-CULTURAL PARISH WITH MORE THAN 300 MEMBERS - MOST OF THEM FROM THE PACIFIC ISLANDS. AND IT'S CLEAR CULTURAL HAS PAID A ROLE IN THIS DISPUTE. I MEET LAISARINI BRADY. I AT NEARLY 8O YEARS OF AGE, THE CHURCH IS THE OVERRIDING CONSTANT IN HER LIFE. SHE HAS A MASTER'S DEGREE IN THEOLOGY, AND SHE AND HUSBAND RICHARD HAVE BELONGED TO THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH FOR 61 YEARS. SO SHE SAYS SHE WAS NOT ABOUT TO STAY QUIET WHEN SHE HEARD RUMOURS THAT THE MINISTER WAS HAVING A FLING. TO HAVE AN AFFAIR - GOING WITH A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH - IS VERY WRONG, BECAUSE WE SAMOANS DON'T ACCEPT THAT, AND THATS THE TRUTH. SO SHE CONFRONTED THE MINISTER AT A CHURCH MEETING. AND WHAT HE SAID, ME AND SILAARE TROUBLEMAKERS, I BECAUSE WE AGAINST WHAT HE SAID. I AND THAT IS THE TYPE OF PERSON I SEE WHAT HE SAYS GOES. LAISARINI SAYS AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING, WHEN THE MINUTES WERE READ, THERE WAS NO MENTION OF THEIR CONFRONTATION WITH THE MINISTER. SHE FELT HE WAS TRYING TO HIDE IT FROM CHURCH AUTHORITIES. IT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO WRITE THE CORRECT THINGS THAT HAPPENED LAST MONTH, BECAUSE WHEN THIS CASE GOES FORWARD, UM... NORTHERN PRESBYTERY WILL ASK TO SEE THE MINUTE BOOK. HE SAID, 'LAISARINI, PUT YOU HAND DOWN.' I SUPPOSE THE QUESTION IS, LAISARINI, ARE YOU JUST A TROUBLEMAKER? IWELL... I I YOU CAN CALL ME ATROUBLEMAKER. I I BUT I SPEAK FOR MY RIGHT To SPEAK, I ACCORDING TO THE ISSUE THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DISCUSSED, IN A CHRISTIAN WAY. I BUT HE mom EVEN WANT TO LISTEN. I I THEN THE DISPUTE ESCALATED. I THE CHURCH SAYS THERE WAS VIOLENCE AND THREATS MADE AGAINST THE MINISTER AND SOME OF HIS STAFF. SOTI FALE WHO HAS BEEN AT THE CHURCH FOR 16 YEARS ADMITS HE DID HITA STAFF MEMBER, BUT ONLYAFTER HE WAS ASSAULTED FIRST. I SAID, 'LOOK, WHAT I'M SEEING HERE IS NOT RIGHT.' AND THEN I CAME UP WITH, 'ITS NOT RIGHT.' AND HE SAID, 'YOU'RE NOTHING. WE'RE ELDERS. WE'VE GOT THE POSITION. YOU GOT NO POWER.' I I SAID, WHAT?' AND THEN HE HIT ME. I AND HOW I WAS THE ONE THATASSAULTED HIM? 79-YEAR-OLD LAISARINI BRADY WAS ALSO ACCUSED OF ASSAULT. HERE. JUST LIKE THAT I TOUCH HIS FACE. I AND HE SAID I HIT HIM. I AND I CORRECTED. I SAID, 'WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT HIT, YOU HAVE A FIST, BUT I TOUCHED YOUR FACE. 'IF I HIT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIT HERE TODAY.' YOU KNOW, THAT'S WHAT I SAID. 'IF I HIT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE DID YOU SLAP HIM? > WHAT I SAID. 'IF I HIT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE DID YOU SLAP HIM? <i>></i> I TOUCHED HIS FACE LIKE THIS. 'IF I HIT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE AS HARD AS THAT? <i>></i> I TOUCHED HIS FACE LIKE THIS. 'IF I HIT YOU, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE AS HARD AS THAT? <i>></i> YES, THAT'S ALL. IPEOPLESINGINSAMOAN I WHILE LAISARINI AND SOTI WERE NEVER CHARGED A THIRD PERSON, SILA SIAOSI, PLEAD GUILTY TO ASSAULT. ALL THREE OF THEM WERE THEN ISSUED WITH TRESPASS NOTICES. THIS IS THE FIRST CHURCH I EVER ENTERED IN MY WHOLE LIFE THAT SENT A TRESPASS NOTICE TO BAN PEOPLE ENTERING THE HOUSE OF GOD. THAT IS WHAT BRINGS TEARS TO MY EYES. (SNIFFLES) I HAVE NEVER CAUSED ANY PROBLEMS. I'VE BEEN WITH THE PRESBYTERIAN FOR 35 YEARS TOTAL. I I HAVE NEVER none ANYTHING. I < NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE IN YOUR CHURCH BEFORE? I HAVE NEVER DONE ANYTHING. < NEVER BEEN IN TROUBLE IN YOUR CHURCH BEFORE? NEVER. NEVER. AND YET, SLAP, BANG, HERE - YOU'VE GOT A TRESPASS NOTICE, THEY SAID. < AND YOU ARE OUT OF THE CHURCH THAT YOU'VE BEEN GOING TO FOR 16 YEARS? GOT A TRESPASS NOTICE, THEY SAID. NAIVELY, THE TRIO THEN DECIDED TO IGNORE THE TRESPASS NOTICES AND TRIED TO GO TO CHURCH AT EASTER. I THE CHURCH CALLED THE POLICE. I WERE YOU SHOCKED TO SEE THE POLICE THERE? I YES, I WAS. I I NEVER DREAMT THAT THERE WOULD BE A POLICE COMING TO THE CHURCH. I TIONSINGINSAIIOAN I THE STRESS WAS ALL TOO MUCH FOR THE THIRD PERSON SLAPPED WITH ATRESPASS NOTICE, 73-YEAR-OLD SILA SIAOSI. SILA, WHO DIED LAST MONTH, HELPED BUILD ST PAUL'S. HE WAS A SCHOOL TEACHER AND A TALENTED CARPENTER WHO DEVOTED HOURS OF HIS TIME TO THE CHURCH. LAISARINI SAYS HER FRIEND WAS HEARTBROKEN THAT HIS CHURCH NO LONGER WANTED HIM. IT REALLY AFFECTED SILA- MENTALLY, SPIRITUALLYAND PHYSICALLY. I EVERY TIME WE TALK, SILA CRIED. I WHEN SILA CRIED, WE ALL CRIED, BECAUSE WE FEEL SORRY FOR HIM. 37 YEARS OF LABOUR, 37 YEARS OF GMNG MONEY AND THE CHURCH NATIONAL BODY IS TURNING A BLIND EYE. WHERE'S THE CHRISTIAN FAITH? THAT IS WHAT IS APPALLING. LAWYER OLINDA WOODROOFFE HAS CHALLENGED THE TRESPASS ORDERS IN THE DISTRICTAND HIGH COURT I BUT THEY STILL STAND. I SHE BELIEVES THE COURTS JUST DON'T WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN WHAT SEE IS A CHURCH MATTER. I MOST OF THE HIGH-COURT JUDGES, I ESPECIALLY JUDGES WHO DO NOT KNOW OR DO NOT HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE IN CHURCH MATTERS, ARE VERY QUICK TO SAY, 'OH, THIS IS A CHURCH MATTER. PUT IT TO THE HIERARCHY OF THE CHURCH.' AND THIS IS HOW THE PACIFIC PEOPLE ARE TREATED. I ETERNAL eon, OUR HEAVENLY FATHER. I DOZENS OF PARISHIONERS HAVE NOW LEFT ST PAUL'S OVER THE ISSUE. MANY OF THEM NOW WORSHIP IN A PRIVATE HOUSE. SO WHAT ON EARTH DOES THE CHURCH HAVE TO SAY ABOUT ALL OF THIS? WELL, THE CHURCH SAYS IT WAS ONLY AFTER A SERIES OF PHYSICAL ALTERCATIONS AND THREATS WERE MADE THAT THE TRESPASS NOTICES WERE ISSUED. AND THEY WERE ISSUED TO KEEP PEOPLE SAFE FROM PHYSICAL HARM. IDOGYAP$I REVEREND SPANDOW, WOULD YOU AT LEAST COME AND SPEAK TO US, PLEASE? SO WE WENT TO VISIT REVEREND SPANDOW. HE REFUSED TO ANSWER HIS DOOR. I OH, COME ON, REVEREND SPANDOW. I <i>I</i> YOUR PARISHIONERS WANT ANSWERS. <i>I</i> WE LATER MANAGED TO SPEAK WITH HIM BY PHONE, WHERE WE QUESTIONED HIM ABOUT HIS RELATIONSHIP WITH THE SUNDAY-SCHOOL TEACHER. SO YOU ARE JUST SAYING THAT IT WAS JUST A FRIENDSHIP - THAT WERE WAS NO SEXUAL RELATIONSHIP? I AND YOU STAND BY THAT. I I BUT YOU on: e0 ON To MARRY HER. I SO THE REVEREND, WHO ALL ALONG DENIED AN AFFAIR, DID GO ON TO LATER MARRY THE WOMAN IN QUESTION. THE CHURCH LATER FOUND THAT REVEREND SPANDOW HAD BEEN 'UNWISE TO HAVE COMMENCED A FRIENDSHIP 'WITH A FEMALE MEMBER OF THE CONGREGATION SO SOON AFTER SEPARATING FROM HIS WIFE'. HE WAS PLACED UNDER REVIEW, AND MEDIATION WAS SET UP. THE CHURCH ALSO SAYS IT HAS TRIED TO RECONCILE WITH THE PARISHIONERS. THEY SAY THERE CAN BE NO RECONCILIATION WHEN THE TRESPASS ORDERS REMAIN AGAINST THEM. I'D JUST SAY TO YOU, 'WHERE'S YOUR HEART? YOU TALK ABOUT JESUS AND FORGIVENESS AND ALL THAT. 'AND YOU TALK ABOUT RECONCILIATION AND ALL THAT. I HAVEN'T RECEIVED SO YOU STILL WANT TO GO BACK TO CHURCH? I THAT'S RIGHT. I I WANT TO GO BACK TO CHURCH TO SOLVE THIS WHOLE THING. BUT HOW CAN YOU GO BACK TO CHURCH WHEN YOU CAN STILL BE PUT TRESPASSED ON? AS FOR LAISARINI, SHE'S FOUND ANOTHER CHURCH AND SHE DOESN'T WANT TO STEP FOOT IN ST PAUL'S EVER AGAIN. I I AM VERY SAD. I I I FEEL VERY SAD, I I LOOKING INSIDE A CHURCH I THAT IS A PLACE-A PLACE TO WORSHIP GOD, AND DOESN'TALLOW PEOPLE LIKE ME AND OTHERS I TO ENTER INTO THE HOUSE OF GOD. I YEAH, OK, IF YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH'S POSITION ON THIS MATTER, THERE'S A MUCH LONGER RESPONSE ON OUR WEBSITE. Take a juicy Angus beef patty, fresh Pukekohe lettuce and tomato, then add ploughmafls relish and aioli. The new Ploughman's Angus Steakhouse - part of Burger King's new King's Collection. WELCOME BACK. IF YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING THIS PROGRAMME OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, YOU'LL KNOW THAT PAULA PENFOLD AND PRODUCER EUGENE BINGHAM HAVE BEEN INVESTIGATING THE CASE I ol= SERIAL RAPIST MALCOLM REWA. I WHAT THEY'VE DEMONSTRATED QUITE CLEARLY IS THAT REWA SHOULD HAVE BEEN - COULD HAVE BEEN - I CAUGHT MUCH MUCH EARLIER. I NOW, OUR STORY'S PROMPTED THE INDEPENDENT POLICE CONDUCTAUTHORITY TO CARRY OUT ITS OWN INQUIRY. AND THE IPCA RELEASED ITS REPORT LAST THURSDAY, AND IT IS QUITE CRITICAL OF SOME OF THE FAILINGS BY THE NZ POLICE. BUT EVEN SO, SOME OF REWA'S VICTIMS BELIEVE THE REPORT IS BADLY FLAWED. HERE'S REWA'S 18TH VICTIM - SHE'S KNOWN AS 'Q' IN THE IPCA REPORT - WITH HER HUSBAND. HAS YOUR COMPLAINT BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY? > WITH HER HUSBAND. HAS YOUR COMPLAINT BEEN TAKEN SERIOUSLY? > HE NO, I THINK THE IPCA HAVE JUST DECIDED TO GET PISSED OFF WITH TV3, RATHER THAN LISTEN TO WHAT I'VE GOT TO SAY -AGAIN. IN THAT REPORT EVEN, THEY BELIEVE THE POLICE OVER THE COMPLAINANTS. HERE'S SOMETHING THAT IS CONFOUNDING. AWHOLE LOT OF PEOPLE HAVE BEEN INTERVIEWED IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS REPORT, BUT NOT YOU. NOPE. INTERVIEWED IN THE PREPARATION OF THIS REPORT, BUT NOT YOU. NOPE. INTERVIEWED IN THE PREPARATION OF I WAS THE FIRST COMPLAINANT, PAULA. THE REPORT REFERENCES THE JANUARY 1995 ATTACK AND THE FACT THAT MALCOLM REWA WAS IN THE POLICE STATION IN MAY 1995. HOW DO YOU RESPOND TO THE REPORT IN THAT REGARD? UM, I READ THE REPORT WHEN I WAS SITTING IN MY OFFICE AT WORK, AND I ACTUALLY BROKE DOWN INTO TEARS. THREE WEEKS LATER, MY WIFE WAS RAPED. COULD'VE BEEN STOPPED THERE AND THEN. THERE'S NO ACKNOWLEDGEMENT OF THAT, THOUGH. > THERE AND THEN. AND THE EVENTS THAT HAPPENED THREE WEEKS LATER. WHEN YOU LOOK AT YOUR INITIAL COMPLAINT, THE QUESTIONS THAT YOU ASKED, WHATARE THE RESPONSES TO THOSE QUESTIONS? > THEY HAVEN'T ACTUALLY ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS AND MY- THAT I ASKED IN MY INITIAL COMPLAINT. I THEY HAVE NOT BEEN ADDRESSED. I SO MS Q AND HER HUSBAND REFUSE TO LET THE MATTER REST. I THEY WANTA PROPER BINDING INQUIRY. I YEAH, AND IF YOU WANT TO UNDERSTAND EXACTLY WHY AND WHAT THE IPCA GOT WRONG, YOU CAN READ A BLOG BY PAULAAND EUGENE AND THAT'S ON OUR WEBSITE. YOU'LLALSO BE ABLE TO WATCH THE FULL INTERVIEW WITH MS Q AND HER HUSBAND AS WELL. RIGHT, THAT'S ALL FROM US THIS WEEK. WE'RE BACK WITH MORE AT 8.30 NEXT WEDNESDAY. WE'LL SEE YOU THEN. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ