NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. KIA ORA. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME TO 3RD DEGREE. HE'S 19, A KIWI KID, AND HE RAN AN INTERNATIONAL DRUG RING. NOTE: CAPTIONS COMPUTER GENERATED USING OCR FROM DVB-SUBPICTURES. CA. YOU MEETA LOT OF INTERESTING PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND THAT SORT OF DRIVES YOU ON AS WELL. ALSO - DOT THE DAIRY QUEEN WITH HER VERY OWN CASTLE. HI, NZ! AND A JOURNEY INTO THE HOT ZONE - THE EPICENTRE OF THE EBOLA OUTBREAK. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE DRESSED ME IN SOME PROTECTIVE GEAR TO BE ABLE TO STAND OUTSIDE THE HOUSE AND FILM. NOW, A LOT OF PEOPLE EXPERIMENT WITH ILLICIT DRUGS IN THEIR TEENS AND, OF COURSE, IN THEIR 20S. BUT HOW MANY ACTUALLY BUILD AN ENTIRE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR INTERNATIONAL DRUG ENTERPRISE BY THE TIME THEY'RE JUST 19 YEARS OLD? WELL, DAVID DUNSTUN DID, AND HE STARTED WHEN HE WAS JUST 15 YEARS OLD. THATS WHEN HE BEGAN IMPORTING DRUGS. NOW, HE LIVEDA HIGH LIFE. HE TRAVELLED AROUND SOUTH-EAST ASIA, AND ALL THE WHILE, HE MANAGED TO EVADE THE AUTHORITIES. SO THE QUESTION IS HOW DID HE GET AWAY WITH THIS? WELL, HE WAS USING A HIDDEN PART OF THE INTERNET THAT MOST OF US KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. MORE ON THAT LATER, BUT FIRST, MICHAEL MORRAH WITH THIS STORY. INTRIGUING MUSIC 'DAVID DUNSTAN HAS HAD AN EVENTFUL ZO-YEAR LIFE, BUT FOR THE NEXT YEAR, HE'S GOING NOWHERE. 'HE'S ON HOME DETENTION AT HIS MUM AND DAD'S PLACE.' HOW FORTUNATE ARE YOU TO BE ON HOME DETENTION AT THE MOMENT? UH, EXTREMELY. IT WASN'T EVEN A... I HAD PREPARED FOR PRISON. IT WASN'T EVEN AN OUTCOME THAT I'D REALLY CONSIDERED. SO I DIDN'T REALLY EXPECT IT. SHOULD YOU HAVE GONE TO PRISON? IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT QUESTION, BUT I DO FEEL THAT IT WAS PROBABLY, LIKE, THE OFFENDING WAS WELL INTO THAT... WELL INTO CATEGORY. # NOW I'M GONNA WATCH EVERY MOVE YOU MAKE. # SO, HOW FAR CAN YOU GO OUTSIDE, DAVID? I'M QUITE LIMITED HERE. I CAN'T GO ON TO THE SECOND DECK. I CAN'T GO ON THE LAWN AREA. MY BOUNDARY IS ABOUT THESE POLES HERE. AND WHAT HAPPENS IF YOU-? IF YOU GO PAST THIS? SOONER OR LATER, THE POLICE WILL SHOW UP IF WE GO PAST THAT. 'UNUSUALLY, DAVID HAS AGREED TO TALK ABOUT HIS OFFENDING. 'HE'S CANDID ABOUT HIS CRIMINAL PASTAND WHY HE GOT INTO IT.' HOW MUCH MONEY WERE YOU MAKING? WELL, PUT IT THIS WAY. THE TOTAL SEIZURE VALUE WOULD BE, STREET, TOWARDS $2.5 MILLION. IT SEEMED LIKE SUCH A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE.. MAKE SOME MONEY IN SOMETHING THAT HADN'T BEEN DONE AS WIDELY THEN. AND, UM, I THOUGHT I'D SAVE ALL MY MONEY UPAND, YOU KNOW, BE ON A YACHT IN THE CARIBBEAN OR WHATEVER THE DREAM WAS. AND SO IT JUST SEEMED LIKE... IT SEEMED LIKE SUCH A LUCRATIVE THING. 'HIS REMARKABLE STORY STARTED WHEN DAVID WAS JUST 15 AND STILL AT SCHOOL.' HOW DID YOU GET INTO IMPORTING DRUGS? I ORIGINALLY ACTUALLY GOT INVOLVED THROUGH A, UH, CLOSE FRIEND WHO TAUGHT AT THE SCHOOL I ATTENDED. A TEACHER? > THROUGH A, UH, CLOSE FRIEND WHO TAUGHTAT THE SCHOOL I ATFENDED. A TEACHER? > UH, YEAH, A TEACHER AT THE SCHOOL, AND FIRST GOT INVOLVED IN BODYBUILDING PRODUCTS, AND THAT LED ME... WELL, NOT THAT LED ME, BUT I LATER GOT INVOLVED IN... UH, WELL, VERY SOON, GOT INVOLVED IN MORE LUCRATIVE DRUGS. YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU ARE 15, 16, IT DOESN'T SEEM LIKE... DOESN'T SEEM LIKE A LOT, BUT, UM, YOU ARE EASILY GUIDED, AND THAT'S NOT SOMETHING YOU SEE UNTIL LATER IN LIFE. 'DAVID'S BUSINESS ACUMEN QUICKLY KICKED IN. 'HE ORGANISED PACKAGES OF DRUGS TO BE DROPPED OFF TO FRIENDS' ADDRESSES, 'LABELLED AS COSMETICS OR FOOD ADDITIVES. 'HE MOVED PAST HIS PARTNERSHIP WITH THE TEACHER 'TO BUILD HIS OWN CRIMINAL NETWORK IN ASIA, 'AND FROM STEROIDS, HE ADVANCED TO COPYCAT ECSTASY AND LSD.' PRIMARILY WHAT WERE YOU IMPORTING? WHAT TYPES OF DRUGS WERE YOU BRINGING IN? > I WAS PRIMARILY BRINGING IN CLASS-C ANALOGUES. 'ANALOGUES ARE MIMICS OR COPIES OF TRADITIONAL DRUGS, AND THE PENALTY FOR THEM IS LOWER.' A KILOGRAM OF BK-MDMA CAN BE BOUGHT IN CHINA FOR $2000 TO $2500, $3000, UH, DEPENDING ON WHO YOU KNOW. AND ONCE TURNED OVER HERE, THAT WILL GET YOU AWHOLESALE VALUE OF MAYBE $90,000, 100,000, AND A STREET VALUE OF $200,000, $250,000, $300,000, SO HUGE AMOUNT OF PROFIT. # DOSES AND MIMOSAS. CHAMPAGNE AND COCAINE. # HELP TO GET ME THROUGH. # 'ENORMOUSLY TEMPTING PROFITS FOR A YOUNG MAN 'AND THE KIND OF MONEY THATALLOWED DAVID TO LIVE A HIGH LIFE MOST KIWIS ONLY SEE IN MOVIES.' YOU EVER DO ANYTHING THAT DOESN'T END UP IN A STAND-OFF, CHOW? I'M AN INTERNATIONAL CRIMINAL. IT ALWAYS ENDS LIKE THIS. (CLAPS) LET'S DO THIS. 'INDEED, WHEN STAYING IN THAILAND, HE USED TO STAY AT THE HOTEL 'MADE FAMOUS IN THE MOVIE HANGOVER 2 - THE $1 O00-A-NIGHT TOWER CLUB AT THE LEBUA HOTEL, 'WHERE HE FLAUNTED HIS SUCCESS ON SOCIAL MEDIA WHILE CONSTRUCTING HIS CRIMINAL NETWORK.' IT WAS QUITE AN EXCITING THING. YEAH, I MEAN, IT'S THE LIFESTYLE THAT COMES WITH IT. UM, YOU'RE NOT GOING TO WORK 9 TO 5. YOU'RE... YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE VERY FLEXIBLE HOURS AS SUCH. UM, YOU MEETA LOT OF INTERESTING PEOPLE.. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, AND THAT SORT OF DRIVES YOU ON AS WELL. KNOCKONDOOR 'BUT THE DREAM CAME CRASHING DOWN ONE MORNING IN OCTOBER LAST YEAR 'WHEN CUSTOMS RAIDED HIS HOME IN HAMILTON AND CAUGHT HIM WITH A PHARMACY OF DRUGS.' YOUR PRIMARY SEIZURE THERE WOULD BE ECSTASY MIMIC, WHICH IS BK-MDMA, WHICH IS QUITE A POPULAR ONE NOW, AND ALSO LSD MIMIC, WHICH IS 25-5. WHAT WAS THE QUANTITY OF THE LSD MIMIC? UH, IT WOULD BE CLOSE TO 10,000 SQUARES. A SQUARE IS A DOSAGE UNIT. SO A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT? > SQUARES. A SQUARE IS A DOSAGE UNIT. SO A FAIRLY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT? > A LOT, YEP. 'IT WASN'T JUST HIS DRUG ENTERPRISE IN TATTERS. HIS PERSONAL LIFE WAS UNDER PRESSURE TOO.' DAVID HAD HIS HAND IN ILLICIT TRADING OF DRUGS FOR MANY YEARS. WERE YOU AWARE OF WHAT HE WAS DOING? NO, I WASN'T. I WAS... IT WAS- I WAS FINISHING OFF MY DEGREE. I WAS WORKING AND ALL THAT SORT OF STUFF, AND I THINKA LOT OF THAT WENT ON WHEN I WAS AT WORK. AND SO WHEN I CAME HOME, IT WAS... YEAH, IT WAS- I WAS GOING TO BED, DOING MY STUDY, AND THEN THAT WAS IT. 'SAMANTHA DUNSTAN MARRIED DAVID IN MARCH THIS YEAR DESPITE THE RAID AND HER NEW HUSBAND'S ARREST.' < WHY DID YOU STAY WITH HIM? BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN HIM. I HAVE FAITH THAT HE'S ABLE TO... YOU KNOW, HE'S MORE THAN THAT, AND I HAD FAITH THAT THAT WAS JUST A SILLY MISTAKE THAT HE'S MADE. 'THAT MISTAKE PUT AN END TO HIS OVERSEAS ADVENTURES TOO. 'DAVID WAS A HIGH ACHIEVER AT SCHOOL AND HAD PASSED AMERICAN UNIVERSITY TESTS 'AND WAS PLANNING ON GOING TO THE PRESTIGIOUS HARVARD UNIVERSITY.' 'ANYTHING CAN l-lAPPEhli 'BUTAFTER BEING CONVICTED ON SIX COUNTS OF IMPORTING CLASS-C DRUGS, TRAVELLING TO THE UNITED STATES IS NO LONGER AN OPTION.' IS THAT UPSETTING? <i>></i> IT CERTAINLY CUTS OUTA BIG ASPECT OF MY LIFE THAT I WOULD HAVE LIKED TO HAVE FOLLOWED. I LIKE ACADEMICS, AND I WOULD HAVE QUITE ENJOYED GOING TO ONE OF THE BIG UNIVERSITIES OF THE WORLD. BUT... THAT'S VERY MUCH RULED OUT. GAINING ENTRANCE TO STAMFORD OR ONE OF THOSE BIG UNIVERSITIES IS, UM, A FAIRLY BIG DEAL? > YEAH, IT IS, BUT, YEAH, IT'S SORT OF... IT'S ONE THAT I'VE THROWN AWAY, YEAH. WELL, AS YOU SEE, HE THREW ITALL AWAY BY MAKING ONE BIG MISTAKE. YOU SEE, THE WAY THAT DAVID AVOIDED THE AUTHORITIES FOR SO LONG WAS TO USE A MURKY PART OF THE INTERNET KNOWN AS THE DEEP WEB. YEAH, THIS IS A LAWLESS PLACE WHERE CRIMINAL DEALINGS CAN ACTUALLY GO UNDETECTED. WE'LL TELL YOU ABOUT THAT AND HOW DAVID GOT CAUGHT OUT. THAT'S AFTER THE BREAK. YOU MEETA LOT OF INTERESTING PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, WELCOME BACK TO 3RD DEGREE. NOW, DAVID DUNSTAN AS YOU'VE SEEN, WAS EXTRAORDINARILY YOUNG WHEN HE BEGAN OPERATING HIS ILLEGAL DRUG-IMPORTING BUSINESS. NOW, HIS OFFENDING WENT UNDETECTED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS, AT LEAST IN PART BECAUSE HE USED A PART OF THE INTERNET THAT MANY OF US SIMPLY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF. SO THE DEEP WEB, OR THE DARK NET, IS A PLACE WHERE CRIMINALS CAN CONDUCT BUSINESS IN COMPLETE SECRECY, AND WE'RE GOING TO GIVE YOU A ROUGH IDEA OF HOW THE DEEP WEB WORKS, BUT WE HAVE LEFT OUT VITAL DETAILS ABOUT IT FOR OBVIOUS REASONS. TENSEIMJSIO < SO THIS HERE IS BITPHARMA, AND IT'S GOT- IT'S AVENDOR FOR, UM, SOME OF THE HARDER DRUGS - < COCAINE, SPEED, UH, ECSTASY. WE'LL GO INTO THAT. 'HOW IS IT THAT SERIOUSLY ILLEGAL DRUGS 'LIKE COCAINE, SPEED AND ECSTASY CAN BE FOUND AND PURCHASED ONLINE?' THE IDEA IS THAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE AN OPEN MARKETPLACE, AND NO MORAL LIMITS TO THAT. 'DAVID IS USING A SPECIAL BROWSER TO ACCESS AN AREA KNOWN AS THE DEEP WEB. 'TO EXPLAIN HOW THE DEEP WEB WORKS, IT HELPS TO THINK ABOUT THE OCEAN. 'MOST INTERNET USERS ONLY SEE WHAT'S ON THE SURFACE, 'ACCESSING BROWSERS LIKE GOOGLE AND YAHOO AND EMAILING ONE ANOTHER 'IN RELATIVELY CONTROLLED, TRANSPARENT WEBSPACE. 'BUT THERE'S A MUCH LARGER AND OFTEN DARKER PLACE ON THE INTERNET 'THAT CAN'T BE FOUND USING REGULAR SEARCH ENGINES - 'THE DEEP WEB, WHICH IS HUNDREDS OF TIMES BIGGER THAN THE INTERNET MOST OF US ARE FAMILIAR WITH, 'WHERE USERS CAN ACCESS ILLEGAL DRUGS, ILLEGAL SEX, FORGED DOCUMENTS, 'ILLEGAL GUN SALES, EVEN HIRE HITMEN. 'ITS A LAWLESS AND LARGELY UNMONITORABLE WORLD WHERE CRIMINALS CAN HOOK UP.' THIS SITE HERE IS A GROUP OF HITMEN, AND THEY ARE OFFERING A... AN ACTUAL KILLING SERVICE. < AND, YEAH, THEY SAY US$10,000 FOR A TARGET. < THE CONCERNING PART ABOUT THAT IS, FOR THEM TO BE ON HERE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE FEEDBACK. < SO IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FOR THEM TO BE ON HERE, THEY HAVE TO HAVE FEEDBACK. < SO IT SAYS SOMETHING ABOUT IT. FOR THEM TO BE ON HERE, THEY HAVE TO < THESE GUYS AREN'T JOKING. 'DAVID DUNSTAN SAYS HE DIDN'T BUY DRUGS ON THE DEEP WEB, 'BUT HE DID USE IT TO ESTABLISH AND KEEP CONTACT WITH HIS WIDE CRIMINAL DRUG NETWORK IN COMPLETE SECRECY.' I USED IT FOR MY EMAILS. I USED IT FOR JUST SEARCHES OR THINGS THAT I WOULD RATHER PREFER KEPT HIDDEN; TO DO WITH ILLICIT PRODUCTS OR THIS SORT OF MARKET. 'THIS IS HOW THE DEEP WEB KEPT DAVID'S EMAIL TRAIL HIDDEN. 'NORMALLY INTERNET BROWSING CAN TRACKED THROUGH A USER'S IP ADDRESS. 'SO WHEN YOU VISITA SITE, IT CAN BE TRACED. 'THE DEEP WEB MASKS YOUR IDENTITY BY BOUNCING IT THROUGH A MYRIAD OF OTHER IP ADDRESSES 'BEFORE YOU REACH YOUR DESIRED LOCATION.' SO, SOMEONE WHO IS MONITORING WHAT WE'RE DOING CURRENTLY, WHAT INFORMATION WILL THEY KNOW ABOUT WHERE WE ARE AND...? < UH, THEY WON'T KNOWAN AWFUL LOT, REALLY. THEY WILL THINK WE'RE IN THE NETHERLANDS. < AND IF THEY MANAGE TO GET BACK PAST THAT ACCESS POINT, THEY'LL THINK WE'RE PROBABLY SOMEWHERE IN RUSSIA OR EASTERN EUROPE. SOMEWHERE THERE. 'DESPITE DAVID'S SYSTEM, CUSTOMS STARTED TO WATCH HIM AFTER RECEMNG A TIP-OFF ABOUT HIS ENTERPRISE. 'BUT DAVID ALSO CONTRIBUTED TO HIS OWN DOWNFALL 'WHEN HE EMAILED A CONTACT USING THE REGULAR PART OF THE INTERNET.' I ACCESSED MY GMAIL ACCOUNT OR ONE OF THEM THROUGH AN IPHONE, AND OFF THAT ONE ACCESS POINT, THEY GOTA HUGE NUMBER OF EMAILS. ANOTHER EXAMPLE IS I TRACKED PARCELS COMING INTO THE COUNTRY FROM MY HOME COMPUTER OR FROM OTHER COMPUTERS INSTEAD OF USING A MASKING SYSTEM. UM, ULTIMATELY, WHAT IT SHOWS YOU IS THAT NOTHING'S FOOLPROOF, AND HUMAN ERROR EVEN PLAYS A HUGE PART IN THAT. AND THAT WAS ULTIMATELY YOUR DOWNFALL? > HUBRIS WAS MY DOWNFALL, YES. CONTEMPTAND JUST COMPLACENCY. VERY GOOD. VERY GOOD. HEY, VERY GOOD! WHOO, WHOO, WHOO, WHOO! 'AT THE INTERNATIONAL MAIL CENTRE, ROXY THE DRUG SNIFFER DOG HAS MADE A FIND. JUSTAS IN DAVID'S CASE, CUSTOMS STARTED SEIZING SUSPECT PACKAGES. SO, STRAIGHT AWAY THERE, WE CAN SEE A CRYSTALLINE SUBSTANCE, AND BASED ON THE COLOUR AND CONSISTENCY, WE ARE PROBABLY LOOKING ATA MDMA OR AN MDMA MIMIC. 'CHIEF CUSTOMS OFFICER MICHAEL MAICH AND HIS TEAM BELIEVE 80 % OF ILLEGAL DRUGS POSTED INTO THE COUNTRY 'HAVE BEEN ORDERED ONLINE.' THIS IS A COUPLE OF HOURS' WORTH. WE'VE GOT CANNABIS SEEDS. WE'VE GOT MDMA POWDER. WE'VE GOT LSD. WE'VE GOT COCAINE. 'THE LIST GOES ON - PREMIUM-QUALITY DRUGS WRAPPED INSIDE FAKE LETTERS AND TRAVEL BROCHURES. 'THE DEEP WEB IS PART OF THE CHANGING LANDSCAPE OF DRUG-DEALING, 'USED BY YOUNG, BRIGHT COMPUTER LITERATES. 'THE DRUG WORLD IS NO LONGER THE PRESERVE OF GANGS. 'IN FACT, CUSTOMS SAYS, INCREASINGLY, IT'S UNIVERSITY STUDENTS WHO ARE INVOLVED. SO I'VE NOTICED A TREND, UM, THAT THERE ARE MORE Ll'l'I'LE INTERCEPTS COMING IN THAT ARE GOING TO STUDENTS' ADDRESSES. UH, VVHAT APPEARS TO BE STUDENTS' ADDRESSES. FLATS. MY REGION, THE PALMERSTON NORTH AREA, THE WELLINGTON AREA, OTAGO, YOU KNOW, WHERE THE BIG UNIVERSITIES ARE, WE SEEM TO BE GETTING MORE AND MORE OF THESE LITTLE INTERCEPTS. 'BUT WHAT CUSTOMS INTERCEPTS IS ONLY A FRACTION OF WHAT'S ACTUALLY ARRMNG HERE. 'OFFICIALS ONLY GET ONE IN EVERY FIVE DRUG IMPORTATIONS, 'AND NOT EVERY INTERCEPTION RESULTS IN A RAID.' SO SOME DRUG INTERCEPTIONS MADE AT THE BORDER ARE NOT INVESTIGATED? RESULTS IN A RAID.' < WHY IS THAT? IS THAT BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF DRUGS COMING IN AND THE LACK OF STAFF? I WOULDN'T SAY IT'S THE LACK OF STAFF. I WOULD SAY IT'S PROBABLY THE AMOUNT COMING IN, UM, AND IT'S JUST... IT'S QUITE, UH, RESOURCE-INTENSIVE TO DO AN INQUIRY, AN INVESTIGATION, INTO INTERCEPTS. IS THE REASON SOME ARE RISKING THIS TYPE OF ENTERPRISE BECAUSE, A, THEY KNOW THEIR PACKAGE MAY GET THROUGH UNDETECTED AND, B, BECAUSE IF THE PACKAGE DOES GET THROUGH, THEY KNOW THAT CUSTOMS MAY NOT ACTUALLY INVESTIGATE THEM? THAT COULD BE PART OF IT, BUT, UM, YES, THEY GET SOME PACKAGES THROUGH, BUT DO THEY KNOW THAT WE HAVEN'T GOT ANY PACKAGES? DO THEY KNOW WHETHER WE KNOW ABOUT THEM OR NOT? IT'S RUSSIAN ROULETTE. IT'S A REAL GAMBLE YOU'RE TAKING WITH YOUR FUTURE, WITH YOUR CAREER. YOU KNOW, YOU'RE 18, 19, 20 NOW. BUT WHEN YOU'RE 25, 26, 27, YOU WANT A FAMILY. YOU WANTA JOB. YOU WANT A NICE HOUSE. YOU WANTA NICE CAR. IF YOU'VE GOTA CONVICTION FOR IMPORTING DRUGS, ITS GONNA BE VERY HARD TO GET. 'THERE'S NO DOUBT LIFE IS NOW MUCH MORE ORDINARY FOR DAVID DUNSTAN. 'EVEN WHEN HE'S FREE OF HIS SENTENCE AND LEAVES HOME ONCE AGAIN, HE'LL STILL HAVE HIS CONVICTION.' < YOUR HUSBAND WILL BE KNOWN AS A DRUG DEALER. DOES THAT BOTHER YOU? EVERYONE HAS THEIR PAST, SO EVERYONE'S GOT THE THINGS THAT THEY WERE KNOWN AS WHEN THEY WERE YOUNGER, AND AT THE MOMENT THAT'S WHAT HE'S LMNG IN. BUT IN 10 YEARS' TIME, THATS NOT WHAT HE'LL BE KNOWN AS. SO, YEAH. 'THE JUDGE WHO SENTENCED DAVID TOLD HIM HE ESCAPED JAIL BYAWHISKER, AND DAVID KNOWS IT.' < ARE YOU GENUINELY REMORSEFUL FOR WHAT YOU DID? AND DAVID KNOWS IT.' < ARE YOU GENUINELY REMORSEFUL FOR WHAT YOU DID? I-l VERY MUCH AM. IT'S TAKEN A MASSIVE TOLL ON MY WIFE, MY FAMILY AND MY LIFE IN GENERAL. I MEAN, I'M 2O YEARS OLD, AND I CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE. WHATASSURANCE CAN YOU GIVE ME THAT YOU WILL CHANGE YOUR BEHAVIOUR AND NOT GO BACK TO TRADING DRUGS? IF I- IF I GOT CAUGHT OR CHARGED AGAIN, IAM FULLYAWARE THAT I'D BE LOOKING AT AVERY LONG TIME IN PRISON. AND I APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT I'VE BEEN GIVEN A SECOND OPPORTUNITY HERE TO MOVE ON AND TO, UH, TO GET SOMETHING DONE WITH MY LIFE. SOMETHING PRODUCTIVE, AND SOMETHING BENEFICIAL TO SOCIETY. YEAH, AND DAVID STILL HAS 1O MONTHS OF HIS HOME-DETENTION SENTENCE TO COMPLETE. HE'S DOING A DEGREE IN PSYCHOLOGY AND MARKETING BY CORRESPONDENCE. SO LET'S HOPE HE PUTS THAT DEGREE TO GOOD USE AND STAYS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE LAW. INTERESTING, THOUGH. STILL ACCESSING COMPUTERS, OBVIOUSLY. OF THE LAW. INTERESTING, THOUGH. STILL ACCESSING COMPUTERS, OBVIOUSLY. WELL, I HOPE IT'S FOR HIS STUDIES AND NOT THE DARKER SIDE OF THE DEEP WEB. RIGHT, NEXT - SHE'S BACK BY POPULAR DEMAND. QUEEN OF HER VERY OWN CASTLE. HI, NZ! YES, IT IS SHE. IT'S DOT AND CASTLE, AND THEY ARE BOTH WONDERFUL. THAT'S NEXT. ALL RIGHT, WELCOME BACK TO 3RD DEGREE. NOW THIS IS BY POPULAR DEMAND. YOU'VE ASKED FOR THIS, AND HERE IT IS. DOT SMITH AND THE RIVERSTONE CASTLE. WE HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING DOT FOR OVER TWO YEARS NOW, KEEPING YOU UPDATED ON HER CASTLE PROJECT JUST NORTH OF OAMARU, OTHERWISE KNOWN AS DOTS GRAND DESIGN! NOW, MEL REID GOT THIS TRIP. SHE GOT THIS STORY. SHE WAS DOWN THAT WAY, AND SHE POPPED IN TO CHECK ON PROGRESS, BUT BEFORE WE DO THAT, REMEMBER THE STORY. LAST YEAR, WE INTRODUCED YOU TO THE SMITH FAMILY FROM RIVERSTONE, JUST NORTH OF OAMARU. VVEVE ALL ENDED UP BACK IN THE SAME VVEE BI I I Y PATCH OF GROUND. THERE'S OLDEST SON, MIKE. SECOND SON BEVAN, ONE OF NZ'S BEST-KNOWN CHEFS AND HIS AWARD WINNING RESTAURANT. THERE'S DOT, OF COURSE. OH, YOU NEVER RETIRE. AND SMITHY NEIL, THE DAD. HE'S RUNNING MORE DAIRY COWS THAN YOU CAN COUNT. COMBINED, THEY'VE ESTABLISHED RIVERSTONE, A RESTAURANT, SHOPS, GARDENS TO DIE FOR. AND THE LINCHPIN OF THE ENTERPRISE - THE FARMS, THE COWS AND THE CROPS. IT'S ALL COME A LONG WAY FROM THE SHOCKER OF A BLOCK THEY BOUGHT BACK IN 1979. A LONG, LONG WAY. IN 2012, DOT UNVEILED HER CASTLE PLANS. EVER SINCE I WAS A LI'I'I'LE WEE TOT, I'VE DREAMED OF BUILDING A CASTLE. SO NOW THAT I'M NEARLY PAST OLD AGE, HERE IT COMES. (CHUCKLES) 2012 - THEY'D EXCAVATED THE MOAT AND CREATED AN ISLAND. EARLY 2013 - THE JETTY HAD GONE UP, AND THE FOUNDATIONS HAD STARTED, INCLUDING THOSE FOR THE DUNGEON. THIS IS THE SECRET PASSAGE. A SECRET TUNNEL. BY THE END OF LAST YEAR, THEY WERE POURING THE FLOOR FOR THE SECOND STORY. IT'S QUITE INCREDIBLE, REALLY, JUST HOW MANY PEOPLE CONTACTED US, WANTING AN UPDATE ON DOT. SO HERE IT GOES. DOT SMITH TAKES MELANIE REED ON ATOUR DOWN INTO THE DUNGEON. AND THROUGH THE CASTLE SO FAR. IMJSIO SO HERE IT IS, DOT. YOUR DREAM COMING TRUE? IT IS, MEL. THIS IS AMAZING TO LOOK AT NOW EVEN THOUGH IT'S A BIT BLACK LIKE DARTH VADER'S CASTLE. MY GOSH, IT'S MAGNIFICENT, ISN'T IT? IT'S HARD TO IMAGINE WHEN YOU SEE IT LIKE THIS WHAT IT'LL LOOK LIKE WHEN IT'S ALL GOT ITS GLORY ON IT. LOVELY CEILINGS AND FLOORS AND BEAUTIFUL PLASTERWORK. SO COME INTO MY KITCHEN, MEL. THE SCULLERY IS GOING TO BE THERE. THE SINK AND THE COOKERS. AND THEN INTO THE DINING ROOM, AND THIS HAS THE LOVELY IN-BUILT STOOLS. SO THE STOOLS WILL COME OUT ABOUT HALF A METRE, AND THEN FROM HERE, WE GO INTO THE CONSERVATORY. AND THEN THIS IS THE OUTDOOR EATING AREA, WHICH WILL BE FANTASTIC. RIGHT INTO THE DAIRY FARM? AND THEN THIS IS THE OUTDOOR EATING AREA, WHICH WILL BE FANTASTIC. RIGHT INTO THE DAIRY FARM? WE CAN SEE THE COWS MAKING THE MONEY FOR ME OUT IN THE PADDOCK. AND YOU'LL HAVE TO KEEP AN EYE ON YOUR HUSBAND OVER THERE IN THE DAIRY SHED. WELL, I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHERE MY HUSBAND IS. HE'S EVERYWHERE. (CHUCKLES) 'LOOKING AROUND THE CASTLE, YOU CLEARLY NEED TO USE YOUR IMAGINATION A BIT.' TO BE ABLE TO COME OUT OVER THE DECK, DOWN A FEW STAIRS, INTO WHAT WILL BE THE SPA POOL. BUT DOT HAS A CLEAR VISION OF HOW IT'S ALL GOING TO END UP. AND WHERE ALL THAT BIG HEAP OF GRAVELAND RUBBLE IS AT THE MOMENT WILL BE, LIKE, A HUGE FIRE PIT THAT YOU CAN SIT AROUND. IT'S GONNA HAVE FRENCH DOORS HERE, AND THAT'LL OPEN INTO A BIG COURTYARD GARDEN. AND NOW WE'RE IN THE FORMAL LOUNGE, WHICH WILL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL PLASTERED CEILING, AND A HUGE FIREPLACE. SO I COULD ACTUALLY DUCK INTO IT, WHICH IS QUITE FUN. (LAUGHS) NOW WE'RE GONNA WALK INTO THE BILLIARDS ROOM. SO THIS ROOM HAS BEAUTIFUL PANELLED WALLS AND PANELLED CEILING, AND THE WOOL IS TARTAN WE'RE HAVING MADE IN CHRISTCHURCH FOR THE FLOORS. NOW, THAT'S THE TABLE TENNIS AREA, AND THIS HERE'S FOR THE MOVIE THEATRE. I HEAR YOU'RE QUITE GOOD AT TABLE TENNIS. I HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST, BUT I NEED SOME MORE PRACTICE. AND NOW, MEL, WELCOME TO THE SECRET DUNGEON. THIS IS... THIS IS A GREAT PLACE. I LOVE THIS PLACE. WE MAY TURN IT INTO A BUNKHOUSE OR... AND STILL THE WINE RACKS AND THINGS IN IT. BUT lT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN DOWN HERE. GREAT PLACE FOR A PARTY. AND THINGS IN IT. BUT lT'LL BE A LOT OF FUN DOWN HERE. GREAT PLACE FOR A PARTY. I RECKON. AND NOW WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE SECRET PASSAGE. OF COURSE YOU DON'T KNOW IT'S A SECRET PASSAGE, BUT THIS WILL HAVE SOME WAY OF HIDING IT. GOSH, IT'S QUITE BIG, ISN'T? SOME WAY OF HIDING IT. GOSH, IT'S QUITE BIG, ISN'T? IT IS BIG, MEL. YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO BE STUCK IN HERE ON A DARK, STORMY NIGHT. NO, YOU'D TURN INTO A SKELETON, WOULDN'T YOU, BY THE TIME SOMEONE FOUND YOU? WE DID EXTEND THE PASSAGE. SO IT DIDN'T COME OUT QUITE AS FAR AS IT DOES NOW. BUT NEIL THOUGHT IT WOULD BE GREAT FUN IF IT CAME OUT TO THE EDGE OF THE LAKE. NOW, NEIL, YOUR HUSBAND, THIS IS SORT OF HIS THING, WASN'T IT? HE SAID YOU COULDN'T HAVE A CASTLE WITHOUTA DUNGEON, IS THAT RIGHT? YEAH, NO, YOU CAN'T HAVE A CASTLE WITHOUT A DUNGEON. THERE'S GONNA BE A BIG WOODEN DOOR HERE SO YOU WON'T SEE RIGHT UP THE SECRET PASSAGE, AND THEN WHEN YOU GET TO ABOUT THIS AREA HERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG IRON GRILLED DOOR. SO, WHERE DOES THE WATER COME TO? AREA HERE, THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIG IRON GRILLED DOOR. SO, WHERE DOES THE WATER COME TO? THE WATER, ACTUALLY, MEL WILL COME RIGHT UP TO HERE. AND YOU'RE GONNA BE ABLE TO ROW RIGHT UP HERE? RIGHT UP TO HERE, MEL. YOU'RE GOING TO BE KNEE-DEEP BY THE TIME YOU GET DOWN HERE. THE BOATS ARE GONNA COME IN HERE? TO BE KNEE-DEEP BY THE TIME YOU GET DOWN HERE. THE BOATS ARE GONNA COME IN HERE? ROW RIGHT UPAND TIE YOUR BOAT ON THE... ON THE HOOK. SO YOU CAN USE IT AS AN EXIT OR AN ENTRANCE? ON THE... ON THE HOOK. SO YOU CAN USE IT AS AN EXIT OR AN ENTRANCE? IF YOU KNOW THE PASSWORD. MEL, THESE ARE THE BIG STONES THAT WE'RE GOING TO COVER THE WHOLE, UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CASTLE WITH. THEY COME FROM OAMARU; FROM PARKSIDE QUARRY. SO THE WHOLE CASTLE'S GONNA BE COVERED IN THIS OAMARU STONE? YEAH, THEY'RE 40 KILO BLOCKS OF STONE. SO YOU JUSTABOUT NEED YOUR QUARRY, WOULDN'T YOU? WELL, LUCKY FOR US, MEL, THERE'S ONE JUST UP THE ROAD. 'OAMARU STONE HAS BEEN USED IN ARCHITECTURE SINCE THE MID 18008, 'AND NOWHERE IS IT SHOWCASED MORE THAN IN THE TOWN ITSELF.' I JUST LOVE COMING HERE. I BRING LOTS OF MY VISITORS HERE. 'UP THE ROAD, THE HOME OF THE FAMOUS OAMARU STONE. 'THEY'VE BEEN GETTING THE LIMESTONE FROM THESE HILLS SINCE 1906.' THESE ARE THE HUGE BLOCKS THAT THEY'D TAKE OUT OF THE QUARRY, AND THEN THEY SHAPE WITH A BIG SAW AND CUT THEM INTO THE DIFFERENT SHAPES THAT WE NEED TO BUILD A HOUSE. NOW, YOU'VE GOT THE BOYS WORKING ON THE GEAR. SO THAT'S, LIKE, THE CON- KIND OF MAKE THE CONCAVE AT THE BACK OF IT? WORKING ON THE GEAR. WE NEED ABOUT 160 TO GO AROUND EACH TOWER. SO IT WOULD BE AN AWFUL LOT OF CHISELLING BY HAND IF THE BOYS DIDN'T HAVE THIS MACHINE MADE. THESE ARE ALL THE WINDOWSILLS FOR THE CASTLE. THIS IS QUITE EXCITING, WHEN YOU THINK THAT THEY'VE DESIGNED THESE MACHINES AND DONE EVERYTHING JUST TO FIT THE DIFFERENT SHAPES OF THE BLOCKS THAT WE NEED. LOOK AT THIS, EH? 'BACK DOWN AT RIVERSTONE, MORE SURPRISES.' WOW. 'BACK DOWN AT RIVERSTONE, MORE SURPRISES.' WOW. ISN'T HE GORGEOUS? MORE SURPRISES.' IS THAT WHAT'S HAPPENING? ISN'T HE GORGEOUS? MORE SURPRISES.' IS THAT WHATS HAPPENING? <i>#</i> DA-DA, DA-DA! # MORE SURPRISES.' DID YOU MAKE MY DOORSTEP BIG ENOUGH? (CHUCKLES) HE'LL BE LIKE THIS. (SNARLS) (CHUCKLES) HE'LL BE LIKE THIS. (SNARLS) ALL LAUGH THIS IS HARD-HAT AREA, MEL. YOU'RE ENTERING THE DANGER ZONE. THE BOYS ARE BUILDING ALL THE BEDROOMS AND THE EN SUITES AND THINGS UP HERE. SO THESE ARE ALL BEDROOMS. THIS IS GOING TO BE A COMMUNAL LOUNGE FOR EVERYBODY, WITH A COMPUTER, CUP OF TEA AND ALL THE LIBRARY BOOKS. AND WHAT ABOUT HERE? WITH A COMPUTER, CUP OF TEA AND ALL THE LIBRARY BOOKS. AND WHAT ABOUT HERE? THIS IS A HUGE ATRIUM WHICH WILL HAVE A BIG DOME ABOVE IT. THAT'S WHY THE SKYLIGHTS ARE THERE. THIS IS JUST WHERE THE STAIRWELL COMES UP. GOSH, I HOPE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HOUSEKEEPER. COMES UP. GOSH, I HOPE YOU'RE GONNA HAVE A HOUSEKEEPER. I HOPE SO TOO. AND THEN COME OUT TO THIS BEAUTIFUL DECK, WHERE THE SUNRISE IS IN THIS DIRECTION, AND THEN GETA GREAT VIEW FROM HERE OF THE LAKE AND ALL THE RESTAURANTS AND ALL THE GARDENS. AND THEN GETA GREAT VIEW FROM HERE VERY NICE, ISN'T IT? AND ALL THE GARDENS. AND THEN GETA GREAT VIEW FROM HERE VERY NICE, ISN'T IT? NICE ON A GOOD DAY, MEL. (CHUCKLES) YOU CAN SEE EVERYTHING HERE. I'LL BE ABLE TO KEEP MY EYE ON THE RESTAURANT TO SEE HOW MANY CUSTOMERS I'VE GOT. AND THERE WAS NEVER ANY DOUBT, WAS THERE, DOT, YOU WERE GOING TO GETA CASTLE? NOPE, RIGHT FROM WHEN I WAS BORN, I THINK. (CHUCKLES) IT MAY NEVER HAVE BEEN LIKE THIS, BUT THIS IS WHAT IT'S BEEN DEVELOPED INTO NOW, SO WE ROLL WITH IT. IT'S QUITE PHENOMENAL, ISN'T IT? AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE ABLE TO STAY THERE, APPARENTLY. HOW ARE YOU GONNA FILL THAT THING, THOUGH? THAT'S WHAT STRUCK ME. SO MUCH SPACE, BUT LUCKILY, DOT'S NICKNAME IS PRINCESS OF QUITE A LOT, AND HER WHOLE LIFE, SHE'S BEEN COLLECTING THINGS. SHE HAS FOUR-POSTER BEDS, ANTIQUE SIDEBOARDS. SHE HAS PORCELAIN. PORTUGUESE CABBAGEWARE, AND IN THE LAST STORY, WE COUNTED NO FEWER THAN THREE ENTIRE SUITS OF ARMOUR. I DON'T THINK SHE'S GONNA HAVE ANY PROBLEMS. OH, I LIKE THE DUNGEON. I THINK I LIKE THE DUNGEON BETTER. ALL RIGHT, COMING UP -A JOURNEY INTO THE HEART OF DARKNESS. THIS IS THE EBOLA EPICENTRE IN SIERRA LEONE, AND WHO IN THEIR RIGHT MIND WOULD GO THERE? WELL, WE'RE GOING TO MEETA JOURNALIST WHO BRAVED IT. THAT'S AFTER THE BREAK. SOFT GUITAR IMJSIO Sam felt fine spending $45 on perfectly good wine. And why wouldn't he, after they enjoyed the entire show together, right from the start, because he got to the station two minutes early, all thanks to saving valuable time paying Doug the lawn guy with his phone. Time really is money. To keep both running smoothly, talk to ANZ about switching banks today. AN EXPERIMENTAL DRUG THAT HAS SUCCESSFULLY HELPED TO TREAT THE EBOLA VIRUS HAS GIVEN SCIENTISTS SOME HOPE. BUT THEY'RE ALSO WARNING IT MAY NOT BE DEVELOPED IN TIME TO CURTAIL THE CURRENT EPIDEMIC IN WESTAFRICA. WHEN EBOLA-INFECTED MONKEYS WERE GIVEN THE DRUG KNOWN AS ZMAPP, THEY ACTUALLY RECOVERED. BUT THERE IS STILL NO SUITABLE HUMAN VACCINE. LONDON-BASED FREELANCE JOURNALIST ASHLEY HAMER WAS ONE OF THE LAST REPORTERS ALLOWED INTO ONE OF THE HARDEST-HIT AREAS. SHE TOOK HER CAMERAAND SHE WENT THERE ALONE. IT WAS RISKY. AND ON HER RETURN TO LONDON SHE SHARED HER PERSONAL IMPRESSIONS AND HER EXPERIENCES WITH SAM. THE MAIN THING THAT I FOUND WHEN I ARRIVED WAS THE MILITARY PRESENCE. THE MILITARYARE JUST BEING DEPLOYED ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO SET UP CHECKPOINTS AND RESTRICT PEOPLE'S MOVEMENTS COMING IN AND OUT OF HOT-SPOT TOWNS AND KEY POINTS ALONG THE MAIN ARTERIAL HIGHWAYS GOING THROUGH THE COUNTRY. THEY HAVEN'T DEPLOYED THE MILITARY LIKE THIS SINCE THE END OF THE CML WAR IN 2003. IT WAS VERY VERY VISIBLE. THERE WERE HEAVILY ARMED SOLDIERS, POLICE IN RIOT GEAR, AND COMMANDERS AT CHECKPOINTS TAKING PEOPLE'S TEMPERATURES - BECAUSE FEVER IS ONE OF THE SYMPTOMS, ONE OF THE KEY SYMPTOMS OF EBOLA- AND REQUIRING TRAVELLERS TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS OR OFF THEIR MOTORBIKES AND COME AND WASH THEIR FEETAND HANDS IN SPECIAL CHLORINATED WATER. JOURNALISTS ARE NOW EXTREMELY RESTRICTED IN TERMS OF WHERE THEY CAN GO. YOU'VE GOTTA GET SPECIAL PASSES NOW FROM THE MINISTRY OF INFORMATION IN SIERRA LEONE. WE MADE IT IN JUST BEFORE THOSE RESTRICTIONS WERE- WERE INCREASED. SO WE WERE SOME OF THE LAST FEW TO ACTUALLY BE ABLE TO GET IN THERE RELATIVELY EASILY. HOW EXACTLY ARE THE VILLAGERS GETTING INFORMATION ABOUT THE DISEASE AND ABOUT HOW THE DISEASE IS SPREADING? AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, HOW IT CAN BE TREATED? THE AID ORGANISATIONS, SPECIFICALLY MEDICINES SANS FRONTIERS, OR DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS, HAVE PUT TOGETHER VERY VERY DEDICATED VOLUNTEER TEAMS OF LOCAL PEOPLE WHO ARE HEALTH PROMOTERS. AND THEIR JOB IS TO GO OUT INTO THE LOCAL COMMUNITIES AND TELL PEOPLE ABOUT THE SYMPTOMS AND ABOUT WHAT TO DO IF YOU SUSPECT THAT SOMEBODY HAS EBOLA AND ALSO HOW TO DEAL WITH SOMEBODY WHO MAY HAVE DIED OF EBOLA. ALTHOUGH, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T KNOW AT THE STAGE NECESSARILY WHEN THEY'VE DIED IN AVILLAGE THAT THEY'VE DIED OF EBOLA. SO THESE LITTLE TEAMS ARE GOING OUT INTO THE RURAL COMMUNITIES IN AN ATTEMPT TO EDUCATE PEOPLE, WHICH IS CRUCIAL TO PREVENTION. THE DIFFICULTY IS THAT THIS IS A VAST JUNGLE DISTRICT, 470,000 PEOPLE SCATTERED ACROSS TINY VILLAGES. THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS TERRIBLE. IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE RAINY SEASON, THEREFORE THE ROADS ARE RIVERS AND SWAMPS OF MUD. NOBODY'S TRAVELLING BY AIR. EVERYTHING'S GOING BY ROAD. IT IS A LOGISTICAL NIGHTMARE AND AN IMPOSSIBLE TASK TO THINK THAT YOU CAN GET LITTLE TEAMS OF PEOPLE OUT TO EVERY VILLAGE TO EDUCATE THESE PEOPLE ABOUT-AND REALLY MAKE THEM UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS IS - WHAT EBOLA IS AND HOW TO DEAL WITH IT. ASHLEY, YOU VISITED A HOSPITAL IN KENEMA THAT'S TREATING EBOLA PATIENTS. NOW, THE RED CROSS HAS DESCRIBED IT AS A DEATH TRAP. WHAT WAS IT LIKE THERE? THIS IS KENEMA GOVERNMENT HOSPITAL WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S A MAIN- IT'S A MAIN REGIONAL HOSPITAL IN THE COUNTRY. IT STARTED TREATING SOME OF THE FIRST EBOLA PATIENTS BECAUSE IT HAD THE EQUIPMENT TO DEAL WITH AN ALSO-DEADLY VIRUS CALLED LASSA FEVER. HOWEVER, IT WAS NOT CAPABLE OF DEALING WITH THE EBOLA OUTBREAK. SIERRA LEONE HAD NOT SEEN AN EBOLA OUTBREAK BEFORE, THEREFORE ALTHOUGH THE STAFF - THE NURSES AND DOCTORS - WERE FULLY QUALIFIED AND VERY COMPETENT PEOPLE, THEY DID NOT KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH EBOLA WHEN IT WAS FIRST IDENTIFIED AND THEREFORE THEY WERE NOT TAKING THE PRECAUTIONS. AND THAT'S THE REASON THAT 20-PLUS NURSES AND DOCTORS, INCLUDING ONE OF THE COUNTRY'S LEADING DOCTORS, FELL SICK AND DIED AT THE HOSPITAL. THE PLACE WHEN I GOT THERE WAS TOTALLY OPEN. I MEAN, I WANDERED IN WITH MY CAMERA UNCHECKED. THEY WERE STILL TREATING EBOLA PATIENTS ON THE SAME SITE AS-AS TYPHOID, AS MALARIA. THEY HAD A FUNCTIONING MATERNITY WARD, I WAS TOLD. YOU SIMPLY CANNOT TREAT EBOLA ON THE SAME SITE AS OTHER CONDITIONS, BECAUSE IT IS TOO CONTAGIOUS, IT IS TOO DEADLY, AND THE RISKS ARE TOO HIGH. AND YET THAT WAS STILL HAPPENING WHEN I WAS THERE. THERE WAS A LITTLE MAKESHIFT SCREENING TENT WHERE SOME NURSES IN DEGREES OF PPE - PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT - WERE-WERE CONVERSING WITH POTENTIAL PATIENTS WHO WERE JUST SITTING ON CHAIRS IN FRONT OF THEM TALKING TO THEM ABOUT SYMPTOMS. AND IT WAS HORRIFYING TO THINK THAT SOME OF- YOU SIMPLY DIDN'T KNOW WHETHER SOME OF THESE PATIENTS HAD EBOLAAND SOME OF THEM DIDN'T. EVERYBODY WAS IN IT TOGETHER. AND THAT WAS WHY IT'S BEEN CALLED A POTENTIAL DEATH TRAP. I MEAN, NOTA POTENTIAL DEATH TRAP; IT IS A DEATH TRAP. LOOK, THIS IS NOT AN ASSIGNMENT THAT MANY JOURNALISTS WOULD WANT TO TAKE ON. WERE YOU AT ALL WORRIED ABOUT YOUR OWN SAFETY? YES. YES, I'VE NEVER BEEN- I'VE NEVER BEEN SO CONSCIOUS OF EVERY SINGLE- NOT JUST IN THE HOSPITAL BUT JUST EVERYWHERE I WENT - OF EVERY SINGLE THING THAT I TOUCHED, OF WHERE MY EQUIPMENT WAS, WHO WAS TOUCHING MY EQUIPMENT, UM, WASHING MY HANDS 20 TIMES A DAY IN CHLORINATED WATER. THERE WERE DOCTORS WHO WOULD SHOW US THEIR CHAPPED SKIN ON THEIR HANDS FROM THE NUMBER OF TIMES THEY'VE HAD TO WASH THEM DURING THE DAY. UM, lT'S- YOU JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S POTENTIALLY COMING FROM. PEOPLE ARE TERRIFIED, AND IT WAS- IT WAS- YOU JUST CAN'T TELL. THEY'D SPEAK ABOUT IT AS BEING A WAR THAT YOU CAN'T SEE BECAUSE YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE IT COULD BE COMING FROM. AND YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND. THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND THIS ARE THE EXPERTS. YEAH, BUT IN THOSE SITUATIONS, EVEN WITH THE MASK AND ALL THE SAFETY KIT, DID YOU EVER FEEL LIKE YOU'D EXPOSED YOURSELF TO THE EBOLA VIRUS? YEAH, EVERY DAY. UM, EVEN EATING FOOD IN THE HOTEL IN THE EVENING; UM, GETTING INTO A CAR AND TRAVELLING TO A LOCATION; TOUCHING THE HAND- THE DOOR OF A CAR; PICKING UP YOUR CAMERA BECAUSE IT'S BEEN SITTING ON THE FLOOR FOR 30 SECONDS. UM, THE-THE... PROTECTIVE GEAR THAT THEY WEAR, I DIDN'T NEED TO HAVE, BECAUSE I WAS NOT TOUCHING EITHER PATIENTS OR- CERTAINLY NOT TOUCHING DISEASED BODIES. I WASN'T GOING INTO HOUSES WHERE PEOPLE WERE EITHER SICK OR DYING. THE VIRUS IS CONTRACTED BY VERY VERY CLOSE CONTACT WITH AN INFECTED PERSON AND THE BODILY FLUIDS OF AN INFECTED PERSON. BUT THAT STILL- THAT'S NOT TO SAY THAT YOU DON'T FEAR IT ALL AROUND YOU CONSTANTLY. IT'S PARANOIA LIKE I'VE NEVER EXPERIENCED BEFORE. YEAH, WHATATOUGH AND RISKY ASSIGNMENT. I'M SURE MANY REPORTERS WOULD BE SAYING NO TO HEADING ACROSS FOR THAT KIND OF ASSIGNMENT. ANYWAY, AFTER THE BREAK - ASHLEY TELLS US HOW WELL WEST AFRICA IS ACTUALLY COPING WITH THIS DEADLY OUTBREAK. YOU MEETA LOT OF INTERESTING PEOPLE. A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT HAVE A LOT OF MONEY, SO THERE HAVE BEEN AROUND 3000 REPORTED CASES OF EBOLA, AND 1500 PEOPLE FROM ACROSS FIVE AFRICAN COUNTRIES HAVE DIED FROM THIS DISEASE. BUT THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION IS WARNING THIS EPIDEMIC COULD ESCALATE TO AROUND 25,000 CASES. SO THE BIG QUESTION IS HOWARE THESE WEST AFRICAN COUNTRIES COPING WITH CONTAINING THIS VIRUS? ASHLEY HAMER TOLD SAM ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT WAYS TO ACTUALLY CONTROL EBOLA IS TO MAKE SURE ITS VICTIMS ARE BURIED SAFELY. BURIAL RITES IN AFRICA- BURIAL RITUALS IN AFRICAARE ABSOLUTELY SACRED. WHEN A PERSON DIES, IT'S A REALLY INTIMATE AND SENSITIVE PROCESS. THERE IS SO MUCH TOUCHING OF THE INDMDUAL, WRAPPING, WASHING, CARING FOR, PAYING YOUR RESPECTS, PRAYING FOR THE INDMDUAL WHO HAS DIED. FAMILY MEMBERS ALL CONGREGATE. I WENT OUT WITH THE RED CROSS DEAD BODY MANAGEMENT TEAM, WHO ARE DEPLOYED TO LOCAL COMMUNITIES WHENEVERA DEATH IN THE COMMUNITY IS REPORTED. AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY'VE DRESSED ME IN SOME PROTECTIVE GEAR TO BE ABLE TO STAND OUTSIDE THE HOUSE AND FILM THE PROCESS OF THEM GOING INSIDE AND COLLECTING THE BODY. WAILING THE COMMUNITY COMES IN TO PAY THEIR RESPECTS. AND THERE'S SO MUCH CLOSE CONTACT WITH THAT DECEASED PERSON. THE BODY OF A PERSON WHO HAS DIED OF EBOLA IS AT ITS MOST CONTAGIOUS IMMEDIATELY AFTER DEATH, SO ITS-IT'S SUCH A DANGER FOR THE CLOSE RELATIVES AND THE COMMUNITY AROUND WHICH THAT PERSON HAS DIED. WHICH IS ALSO WHY IT'S SUCH A TRAGEDY, BECAUSE THIS DISEASE IS KILLING CLOSE RELATIVES; IT'S KILLING ENTIRE FAMILIES. AND IT'S THE PEOPLE WHO YOU'RE CLOSEST TO, YOUR RELATIVES, WHO ARE THE ONES THAT YOU'VE GOT TO BE MOST AFRAID OF. YOU'VE GONE WITHIN ARM'S REACH OF PEOPLE WHO ARE INFECTED WITH EBOLA AND SPOKEN TO THEM. I HAVE, YEAH. IT'S EXTRAORDINARY. SOMEBODY WITH A HIGHLY CONTAGIOUS DISEASE. I SPOKE TO VERY SICK PEOPLE, BUT WHO WERE ON THEIR WAY, I HOPE, TO RECOVERY. YOU CAN TALK TO THEM TWO METRES AWAY ACROSS A PLASTIC FENCE. THEY'RE IN THE HIGH-RISK ZONE, AND YOU'RE STANDING THERE IN THE LOW-RISK ZONE. AND THEY'RE FEISTY; THEY'RE DOING WELL. YOU CAN TALK TO THEM WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. WHAT IS AMAZING IS THAT ON THE OTHER SIDE ON THE HIGH-RISK ZONE WITH THE PATIENTS ARE MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS - DOCTORS AND NURSES AND HYGIENISTS - IN FULL PERSONAL PROTECTIVE EQUIPMENT TWO METRES AWAY FROM YOU. AND YOU'RE WEARING NOTHING. AND YOU'RE NOT DEEMED TO BE AT RISK DOING THAT. I SPOKE TO ONE GIRL WHO WAS WONDERFUL, CALLED HAWA. SHE WAS A YOUNG MOTHER. AND SHE HAD A 1-YEAR-OLD DAUGHTER WHO LUCKILY HAD NOT CONTRACTED THE DISEASE. SHE'D BEEN IN THE CENTRE FOR ABOUT THREE WEEKS AND HADN'T BEEN ABLE TO SEE HER BABY GIRL IN ALL OF THAT TIME. I GAVE HER MY PHONE NUMBER, BECAUSE I DIDN'T KNOW, YOU KNOW, WHAT WAS GOING TO BE THE OUTCOME, BUTI SAID, 'YOU KNOW, IF YOU GET HOME, GIVE ME A CALL AND I'LL SEE IF I CAN COME AND SEE YOU.' UM, ANYWAY, THE DAY BEFORE I LEFT FREETOWN, I GOTA CALL FROM HER, AND SHE WAS SHOUTING DOWN THE PHONE TELLING ME, 'I'VE GONE HOME. I'VE GONE HOME TO MY VILLAGE. WHEN ARE YOU GONNA COME AND SEE ME?' WHICH WAS ABSOLUTELY WONDERFUL TO KNOW. SO PEOPLE ARE RECOVERING. PEOPLE ARE RECOVERING FROM THIS. AND THE KEY THING WHEN THEY DO RECOVER IS THAT HEALTH PROMOTER TEAMS, AID WORKER TEAMS, HAVE GOT TO GO BACK TO THEIR VILLAGES WITH THEM AND REINTRODUCE THEM TO THEIR VILLAGERS. AND THEY MAKE A BIG EFFORT TO ACTUALLY TOUCH THESE PEOPLE AND PROVE THAT THEY ARE NO LONGER CONTAGIOUS BECAUSE THERE'S SO MUCH FEAR ABOUT THIS, AND SO MANY PEOPLE ARE BEING OSTRACISED FROM THEIR COMMUNITIES BECAUSE-BECAUSE THEY'VE HAD THE DISEASE AND YOU STILL FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT SOMEBODY WHO HAS COME BACK AND RECOVERED FROM EBOLA, YOU KNOW, YOU NEED DOCTORS TO BE THERE TOUCHING, PROVING THAT THIS PERSON IS OK AND CAN BE REACCEPTED INTO THE COMMUNITY. SEE, NO MORE EBOLA. THAT WAS QUITE AMAZING TO SEE. LOOK, ARE THERE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO EDUCATE AND TO TREAT EVERYBODY? NO. THERE SIMPLY AREN'T; THERE CATEGORICALLY AREN'T. UM, DIRECTORS AT DOCTORS WITHOUT BORDERS AND THE RED CROSS AND THE WHO ARE REPEATEDLY SAYING THERE ARE NOT THE HUMAN RESOURCES, THE PEOPLE, THE EXPERTS, THE WILLING STAFF, TO COME OUTAND HELP ON THE GROUND. THE TURNOVER, AS I UNDERSTAND, FOR DOCTORS WORKING WITHIN THE MEDICAL FACILITIES IS TWO MONTHS. THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THERE LONGER THAN TWO MONTHS, EIGHT WEEKS, WORKING IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. THEY'VE GOT TO BE REPLACED, AND THERE SIMPLY AREN'T ENOUGH EXPERTS TO COME OUTAND REPLACE THE PEOPLE WHEN THEY'VE FINISHED THEIR TURN. HOW WOULD YOU SAY THINGS ARE NOW IN SIERRA LEONE? THE WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION SAID TODAY THAT THEY BELIEVE THAT THE DISEASE IS ACCELERATING. UH, SIERRA LEONE IS MANAGING. THERE ARE NEW- THERE'S NEW EQUIPMENT, THERE'S NEW FACILITIES BEING- IN THE PROCESS OF BEING SET UP. TO MY KNOWLEDGE, THE MSF CENTRE OUT IN KAILAHUN IS STILL THE ONLY FULLY FUNCTIONING CENTRE. PATIENTS ARE OCCURRING IN THE CAPITAL, FREETOWN. THERE ARE- THERE IS EBOLA THERE NOW. THERE IS NO FUNCTIONING TREATMENT CENTRE IN THE CAPITAL. PATIENTS ARE BEING DRIVEN 12 HOURS ACROSS COUNTRY TO THE MSF CENTRE IN KAILAHUN. SO THE WORRY WITH FREETOWN IS THAT IT'S THE CAPITAL CITY, A CITY OF ONE MILLION PEOPLE, AND THEY ARE NOT - CATEGORICALLY NOT - PREPARED FOR THE KIND OF OUTBREAK THAT WE HAVE SEEN, FOR INSTANCE, IN MONROVIA, WHERE THE MILITARY HAS GONE IN AND QUARANTINED SLUM AREAS, AND THERE'VE BEEN RIOTS AND EVEN SHOOTINGS AND DEATHS AS A RESULT. THE SAME COULD POTENTIALLY HAPPEN IN FREETOWN. WILL YOU GO BACK? I WILL GO BACK. I'M ACTUALLY PLANNING TO GO BACKAT THE END OF NEXT WEEK. BECAUSE IT'S AN IMPORTANT STORY. IT'S STILL DEVELOPING ON A BIG- ON A BIG SCALE. NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS EVER BEEN SEEN BEFORE WITH AN EBOLA EPIDEMIC. AND THE ODDS ARE THAT IT'S GOING TO GET BIGGER AND BIGGER. EXPERTS SAY THEY'RE NOT EXPECTING ANY SLOW DOWN FOR THE NEXT SIX MONTHS. NOW, THE HEAD OF THE WORLD BANK HAS DESCRIBED THE WORLD'S RESPONSE TO THE EBOLA OUTBREAK AS DISASTROUSLY INADEQUATE'. SO HOPEFULLY ASHLEY'S FIRST-HAND ACCOUNT OF THE SITUATION IN SIERRA LEONE WILL HELP TO FOCUS MORE ATTENTION ON WHAT'S NEEDED IN WESTAFRICA. AND WE WILL, OF COURSE, KEEP YOU ACROSS WHAT SHE FINDS ON HER RETURN JOURNEY. WELL, THATS IT FROM US THIS WEEK. NEXT WEEK IT'S THE DECISION 14 LEADERS' DEBATE. SO WE'LL BE BACK THE WEEK AFTER. SEE YOU THEN. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2014