COPYRIGHT ABLE 2014 KIA ORA. GOOD EVENING. TONIGHT ` A 3RD DEGREE EXCLUSIVE. THE MAN WHO COMMITTED THE SO-CALLED RAURIMU MASSACRE TALKS FOR THE FIRST TIME ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED AND WHY HE DID IT. I WENT TO MY ROOM, AND I CAME BACK WITH A SHOTGUN. AND THEN IT STARTED? WELL, MY DAD, UM... HE SAW THE, UM, DIRENESS OF THE SITUATION, AND HE JUMPED UP FROM THE TABLE, AND HE TRIED TO TAKE IT OFF ME, AND, UM, THAT'S WHEN HE WAS SHOT. GUNSHOT TENSE MUSIC ALSO, CAUGHT ON CAMERA ` SOME OF THE MOST COMPELLING MOMENTS IN THE LAST 25 YEARS OF TELEVISION CURRENT AFFAIRS. ALL MY DAUGHTER WANTS TO DO IS SEE HER MOTHER. I WASN'T THERE. I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU, THEN, IF WE'VE HAD ALLEGATIONS FROM MORE THAN ONE WOMAN THAT YOU, IN FACT, HAVE USED VIBRATORS IN YOUR SURGERY ON THEM? > WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHO THE PEOPLE ARE? PLUS, A SCARY REVELATION OF ANTARCTICA'S PAST AND LIKELY FUTURE THAT'S HIDDEN IN ITS ROCKY LANDSCAPE. WHAT DOES THIS FOSSIL TELL US ABOUT WHAT ANTARCTICA USED TO LOOK LIKE? WELL, FIRST OF ALL, IT TELLS US IT WAS GREEN AND VEGETATED. OK, FIRST UP TONIGHT ` STEPHEN ANDERSON. BACK IN 1997, HE WENT ON A RAMPAGE IN RAURIMU, THE CENTRAL NORTH ISLAND SETTLEMENT WHERE HIS PARENTS HAD A SKI LODGE. AND YOU'LL REMEMBER THAT ANDERSON SHOT 10 PEOPLE, AND HE KILLED SIX OF THEM, INCLUDING HIS OWN FATHER, AND I THINK, NATURALLY ENOUGH, THERE WERE PEOPLE OUT THERE THAT WANTED HIM LOCKED UP FOR LIFE. THEY WANTED TO THROW AWAY THE KEY. YES, BUT IN THE END HE WAS FOUND TO BE MAD, NOT BAD. HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY DUE TO INSANITY AND ORDERED TO BE HELD IN A SECURE PSYCHIATRIC HOSPITAL, RATHER THAN PRISON, AND NOW HE'S GRADUALLY BEING ALLOWED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. SO ARE WE SAFE WITH HIM LIVING AMONG US? HOW IS HE NOW 18 YEARS ON? WELL, MICHAEL HAS SPENT THE LAST WEEK WITH HIM. BELL RINGS, HORN BLARES TENSE MUSIC MUSIC CONTINUES 1 HOW WOULD YOU LIKE THE PUBLIC TO SEE YOU? WELL, I GUESS, IN A WAY, THERE ARE SO MANY BARRIERS I HAVE TO OVERCOME TO BE CONSIDERED JUST STEVE. I'D JUST LIKE TO BE STEVE. BUT BEING 'JUST STEVE' ISN'T EASY. ALMOST 18 YEARS AGO, HE SHOT 10 PEOPLE, KILLING SIX OF THEM, IN ONE OF NZ'S WORST MASS SHOOTINGS. IF I WAS JUST OUT TO GET EVERYBODY I SAW, UM, WELL, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE VICTIMS. IF I WAS JUST OUT TO GET EVERYBODY I SAW, UM, WELL, THERE WOULD'VE BEEN MORE VICTIMS. UM, I WASN'T OUT JUST TO GET AS MANY PEOPLE AS I COULD. THAT WASN'T WHAT HAPPENED. TENSE MUSIC THIS IS THE FIRST TIME STEVE ANDERSON HAS SPOKEN SO PUBLICLY ABOUT HIS DELUSIONS, HIS TREATMENT AND WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY IN 1997. REPORTER: THIS AFTERNOON, 22-YEAR-OLD STEPHEN ANDERSON FROM KHANDALLAH IN WELLINGTON APPEARED IN THE TAUMARUNUI COURT CHARGED WITH MURDER. MUSIC CONTINUES TODAY STEVE IS ON THE 9.05, HEADING UP THE KAPITI COAST, NORTH OF WELLINGTON. WHILE HE LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR COMMUTER WITH EVERYDAY FREEDOM, THAT ISN'T THE CASE. HE'S WHAT'S KNOWN AS A SPECIAL PATIENT AT THE FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH HOSPITAL IN PORIRUA. SO, WHY DID YOU DECIDE TO, SORT OF, COME OUT AND SHARE YOUR STORY? WELL, UM, WE'VE HAD SOME RECENT PUBLICITY, WHICH IS SOMETHING WHICH OCCURS FROM TIME TO TIME, AND, UM, THAT HAS A REAL EFFECT ON PEOPLE, UM, NOT ONLY ME, BUT PEOPLE WHO WERE AFFECTED BY MY ACTIONS YEARS AGO. SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE ALMOST PUT A HUMAN FACE TO, UM, THINGS, EVENTS IN THE PAST AND JUST SHOW PEOPLE I'M PERHAPS I'M NOT THE MONSTER THEY MIGHT IMAGINE. HORN BLARES, BELL RINGS OH, WELCOME TO MUM'S PLACE, MICHAEL. GIDDAY, MA. HORN BLARES, BELL RINGS OH, WELCOME TO MUM'S PLACE, MICHAEL. GIDDAY, MA. OH, HELLO, STEVE. HELLO, DEAR. HOW YOU DOING? GIDDAY, MA. OH, HELLO, STEVE. HELLO, DEAR. HOW YOU DOING? I'M FINE. IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU HOME AGAIN. BIG DAY FOR US. I'M FINE. IT'S NICE TO HAVE YOU HOME AGAIN. BIG DAY FOR US. YES, IT IS, INDEED. HAVE YOU HOME AGAIN. BIG DAY FOR US. YES, IT IS, INDEED. MEET MICHAEL. HELLO, MICHAEL. YES, IT IS, INDEED. MEET MICHAEL. HELLO, MICHAEL. HELEN, NICE TO MEET YOU. THANKS FOR HAVING US. LOVELY TO MEET YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE. STEVE'S BEEN GRANTED LEAVE AND WILL SPEND THE DAY AT HIS MUM HELEN'S PLACE, A PLACE STEVE CONSIDERS A SANCTUARY. DID YOU HAVE A GOOD TRIP UP ON THE TRAIN? OH, WELL, IT'S THE TRAIN, MUM, YOU KNOW? (LAUGHS) I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TRAIN. MUM, YOU KNOW? (LAUGHS) I THINK IT'S A PRETTY GOOD TRAIN. YEAH, TRUE. AS PART OF HIS CONDITIONS, STEVE'S ALLOWED TO COME HERE TWO DAYS A WEEK, BUT HE CAN ONLY STAY EIGHT HOURS AT A TIME BEFORE HE NEEDS TO RETURN TO THE HOSPITAL. AND WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK HOME AND HAVE THE SUPPORT AND LOVE OF YOUR MUM HERE? WELL, IT MEANS EVERYTHING. UM, WE NEED OUR FAMILY. WE NEED OUR FRIENDS. NO ONE IS AN ISLAND, AS THEY SAY, SO, UM, YEAH, I'M JUST` I'M JUST SO LUCKY TO HAVE MY MUM IN MY LIFE. UM, THINGS COULD HAVE BEEN EVEN WORSE ON THE DAY, THINKING BACK. UM, LIKE, I DON'T EVEN THINK THAT I WOULD HAVE SURVIVED WITHOUT MY MUM'S SUPPORT IN HOSPITAL OR EVEN ON THE DAY, YOU KNOW, IF SOMETHING HAD HAPPENED TO MUM. UNTIL TODAY, STEPHEN LAWRENCE ANDERSON FACED JUST ONE CHARGE OF MURDER. NOW IT'S SIX. BUT I'M JUST SO PLEASED THAT I'M STILL HERE FOR HIM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I SOMETIMES WONDER WHAT MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED HAD I NOT SURVIVED THAT TRAGEDY ALSO. AND WHO WOULD HAVE LOOKED OUT FOR HIM, FOR STEPHEN? THEY PROBABLY` THE COMMENT WAS MADE AT SOME POINT, YOU KNOW, 'THEY SHOULD LOCK HIM UP AND THROW AWAY THE KEY. YOU KNOW, BUT PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS CAN GET WELL AGAIN. AND HE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN THAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW HOW WELL HE IS AND TO GET ON WITH HIS LIFE. AND HE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN THAT THANK YOU, MA. IS AND TO GET ON WITH HIS LIFE. AND HE NEEDS TO BE GIVEN THAT THANK YOU, MA. OH, SWEETHEART. YEAH. THANK YOU, MA. OH, SWEETHEART. YEAH. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL. OH, SWEETHEART. YEAH. YOU KNOW HOW I FEEL. YEAH, OF COURSE. A JURY FOUND THAT STEVE WAS INSANE, AND SO HE WAS ACQUITTED ON ALL SIX MURDER CHARGES AND FOUR OF ATTEMPTED MURDER. THIS MEANS HE DOESN'T HAVE A CONVICTION. HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY BECAUSE OF HIS MENTAL STATE. I WAKE UP TO WHAT'S HAPPENED EVERY DAY, UM, AND SO MANY OTHER PEOPLE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE FALLOUT TOO. AND THIS WAS A NATIONAL... A NATIONAL SHAME, A NATIONAL TRAGEDY WHAT OCCURRED. STEVE HAS BEEN DIAGNOSED WITH SCHIZOPHRENIA, A CHRONIC CONDITION THAT ALTERS A PERSON'S PERCEPTION OF REALITY. AND FOR MUCH OF THE PAST TWO DECADES, HE'S BEEN GETTING TREATMENT. SOME PEOPLE WOULD SAY, 'SIX PEOPLE DIED AND 10 PEOPLE IN TOTAL WERE SHOT.' AND SOME WOULD ACTUALLY NEVER FORGIVE. IS IT DIFFICULT KNOWING THAT? I WISH I COULD WAVE A MAGIC WAND, CHANGE IT ALL AND` AND HELP THOSE PEOPLE. I THINK THE BEST WE CAN DO IS SHOW THAT I'M TRYING TO MAKE AN EFFORT AND THAT, GIVEN` GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY, I CAN BE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY. UM, I CAN GIVE BACK SOME OF THE` THE GOODNESS I'VE SORT OF TAKEN AWAY. SOMBRE MUSIC ARE YOU GENUINELY REMORSEFUL FOR WHAT HAPPENED THAT DAY? OH, MOST DEFINITELY. I HAVE` I MAINTAIN A SENSE OF REGRET, UH, FOR WHAT'S HAPPENED. I` I HAVE` I HAVE REGRETS. UM, OF COURSE I'M SORRY FOR WHAT HAPPENED. IT WAS A TERRIBLE MISTAKE. BUT IT'S BEEN RECOGNISED FOR A LONG TIME THAT, UM, IN` IN THAT ALTERED STATE, UH, WE'RE NOT THAT PERSON; WE'RE NOT THE PERSON WHO YOU SEE BEFORE YOU NOW. UH, YOU KNOW, SO I JUST` IT'S A DIFFICULT QUESTION TO ANSWER. I MEAN, WHAT WORDS CAN I SAY THAT WOULD HELP PEOPLE ACCEPT WHAT'S HAPPENED? WHAT WORDS CAN I SAY THAT WOULD CHANGE THEIR MIND TO, UM...? AND I GUESS I JUST HAVE TO ACCEPT THAT FOR SOME PEOPLE, I WILL ALWAYS BE THAT BAD GUY; I WILL ALWAYS BE THE GUY THAT THEY WANT TO BLAME. SO WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED AT RAURIMU LODGE IN 1997? WHAT WAS STEVE THINKING WHEN HE STARTED SHOOTING AND TOOK THE LIVES OF SIX PEOPLE? TENSE MUSIC WELCOME BACK TO 3RD DEGREE. SO, STEPHEN ANDERSON HAD LOST ALL TOUCH WITH REALITY, AND HE WAS SO DELUDED THAT HE THOUGHT HE NEEDED TO TAKE SOME SORT OF EXTREME AND VIOLENT ACTION. AND AS WE ALL KNOW, THE CONSEQUENCES WERE UNTHINKABLE. NOW HE'S ABOUT TO TELL ME EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED AND WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH HIS MIND THAT DAY, WHY A YOUNG MAN FROM A GOOD FAMILY BECAME PSYCHOTIC AND STARTED SHOOTING. I ENJOY WATCHING HIM GROWING UP AND JUST TAKE ON, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT WERE GOING ON AROUND HIM. HE WAS... STEVE ANDERSON HAD A LOVING AND SUPPORTIVE UPBRINGING. I THINK AS A CHILD I HAD THE PERFECT CONDITIONS. YOU KNOW, UM, I HAD TWO PARENTS THAT LOVED ME. UH, WE LIVED IN SOME BEAUTIFUL HOMES IN A SORT OF` IN A GOOD SUBURB OF WELLINGTON. TYPICAL YOUNG BOY, I THINK. HE LIKED GETTING ON HIS, UM, PLASTIC TRIKE TYPE THING, YOU KNOW, AND WE HAD A SLOPING DECK... THERE WERE TRIPS OVERSEAS AND, OF COURSE, REGULAR VISITS TO THE FAMILY HOLIDAY HOME AT RAURIMU. THE FAMILY LODGE WAS BUILT BY STEVE'S DAD, NEVILLE, IN THE MID-'80S. I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE BEEN CLOSER TO MY DAD, AND I WOULD'VE LIKED TO HAVE LEARNED FROM HIM, UM, AN AWFUL LOT MORE THAN I REALISED WOULD HAVE BEEN VALUABLE TO ME. THE WAY WE BONDED WAS, LIKE, GOING OUT INTO THE OUTDOORS. I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, REALLY HAPPY MEMORIES FROM A REALLY YOUNG AGE OF GOING INTO THE NZ BUSH AND, YOU KNOW, CAMPING OUT AND, UM, COOKING OVER AN OPEN FIRE, DOING A BIT OF HUNTING WHEN I GOT A BIT OLDER. BUT AS STEVE GREW INTO HIS TEENS, HE BECAME TROUBLED AND CONFUSED. I THINK I WAS COMING DOWN WITH, SORT OF, DEPRESSION, AND I DIDN'T KNOW HOW TO LABEL IT AS SUCH. ALL I KIND OF KNEW WAS THAT THE WORLD DIDN'T SEEM A VERY FRIENDLY PLACE AND I DIDN'T LIKE MYSELF, AND, UM, SO THAT WAS A TOUGH TIME IN MY LIFE. UM, YEAH, SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE THINGS, YOU KNOW, THAT I'M CONSCIOUSLY AWARE OF PROBABLY STARTED TO GET ON A SLIPPERY SLOPE. STEVE STARTED USING CANNABIS. HE'D HAD RUN-INS WITH POLICE. AND IN 1995, FOR THE FIRST TIME, STEVE WAS ADMITTED TO HOSPITAL AND PRESCRIBED ANTI-PSYCHOTIC MEDICATION. MY COMPLIANCE WITH THE TREATMENT WAS SPORADIC. UM, SOMETIMES I TOOK IT, AND SOMETIMES I DIDN'T. BUT CERTAINLY BEFORE RAURIMU TOOK PLACE, I WASN'T ON TRADITIONAL PHARMACEUTICAL MEDICATIONS, YEAH, FOR A PERIOD OF SOME TIME. I THINK, UH` I THINK MY PARENTS WERE MONITORING MY USE, AND I WAS PRETENDING I WAS USING. THE TREATMENTS, WITHOUT THE PILLS, STEVE BEGAN TO LOSE HIS GRIP ON REALITY. TENSE MUSIC IT WAS ON THE 8TH OF FEBRUARY 1997 WHEN THE DELUSIONS TOOK OVER. THE ANDERSONS HAD INVITED GUESTS TO THEIR LODGE FOR THE LONG WEEKEND. STEPHEN ONLY CAME WITH US BECAUSE WE WERE CONCERNED HE MIGHT HARM HIMSELF AT HOME BEING ON HIS OWN, OK, COS HE WAS NOT VERY WELL AT THAT TIME. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, SOMETIMES I THINK IF WE HADN'T INVITED HIM UP OR INSISTED HE CAME WITH US, ACTUALLY, ON THAT OCCASION, HOW DIFFERENT THINGS MIGHT HAVE BEEN, YOU KNOW? BY THE TIME THEY GOT TO RAURIMU, STEVE WAS SERIOUSLY SICK. I WAS DELUDED ABOUT THE GUESTS AT THE LODGE, AND, UM, I THOUGHT I HAD TO TAKE ACTION AGAINST THEM, AND THAT'S WHAT I DID, UM, YEAH. STEVE WAS SUFFERING FROM PSYCHOSIS. HE WAS PARANOID, CONFUSED AND CONVINCED HIS FATHER AND FRIENDS WERE PART OF A CONSPIRACY TO END THE WORLD. HIS FATHER HE THOUGHT WAS THE RINGLEADER. I JUST FELT TOTALLY ALONE AND THAT IT WAS UP TO ME BASICALLY TO SAVE THE WORLD. AND IT SOUNDS CRAZY, AND IT IS. I DIDN'T FEEL THAT I HAD A CHOICE IN THE MATTER. AND, I MEAN, IF YOU THINK THE WORLD'S GOING TO END UNLESS I DO THIS, UM, EVEN THOUGH I LOVED MY FATHER AND MY FATHER LOVED ME, I SAW HIM AS THE LEADER OF THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE, AND HE WAS FIRST ON MY, KIND OF, UM, LIST OF THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF THAT MORNING. IT WAS BREAKFAST TIME ON A SATURDAY MORNING WHEN STEVE ENTERED THE ROOM. I CAME OUT AND CONFRONTED PEOPLE. BY HOW I INTERPRETED THEIR RESPONSE, MY MIND FOUND A WAY TO SEE THAT AS CONFIRMATION OF THE PEOPLE I THOUGHT THEY WERE, SO, UM, I WENT TO MY ROOM, AND I CAME BACK WITH A SHOTGUN. AND THEN IT STARTED HAPPENING STRAIGHT AWAY? WELL, MY DAD, UM, HE SAW THE DIRENESS OF THE SITUATION, AND HE JUMPED UP FROM THE TABLE AND TRIED TO TAKE IT OFF ME, AND THAT'S WHEN HE WAS SHOT. GUNSHOT GRIM MUSIC SHOUTING ECHOES THE PLACE ERUPTED INTO PANDEMONIUM, AND, UH` AND, UM, SOME PEOPLE GOT AWAY AND SOME DIDN'T. GRIM MUSIC SHOUTING FADES WHEN STEVE'S FATHER WAS SHOT ` HE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO BE SHOT ` I KNEW RIGHT THEN STEPHEN COULDN'T BE REASONED WITH, AND I AM FAIRLY CERTAIN THAT IF I HAD GONE UP TO CONSOLE HIS DAD OR TRY AND TALK STEPHEN OUT OF IT, I DON'T THINK I WOULD BE SITTING HERE TODAY TALKING TO YOU. TENSE MUSIC IT IS WITHIN THE REALMS OF POSSIBILITY THAT SHE COULD'VE DIED THAT DAY HAD SHE NOT GOT TO SAFETY. MUSIC CONTINUES AND YOU MANAGED TO GET OUT OF THE HOUSE? I WENT THROUGH A WINDOW, ACTUALLY, AT THE TIME AND I HEARD OTHER PEOPLE GETTING AWAY, BUT, UM, I KNEW SOME OF THEM HADN'T BY THE GUNSHOTS THAT I HEARD LATER AS I WAS RUSHING THROUGH` GETTING THROUGH THE BUSH, MM. AND DID YOU STAY IN THE BUSH FOR SOME TIME? NO. I WENT NEXT DOOR TO THE NEIGHBOURS TO TRY AND ALERT THEM TO THE FACT THAT WE NEEDED TO CALL THE POLICE. BY THE AFTERNOON, SIX PEOPLE HAD BEEN FOUND DEAD, FOUR OTHERS WERE SERIOUSLY WOUNDED, AND THE POLICE HAD CLOSED IN. I THINK IT TOOK A COUPLE OF HOURS FOR THEM TO, UM, MAKE EVERYTHING WHAT THEY CONSIDERED SAFE AROUND THE PLACE, AND, UH, I WAS ARRESTED BY SOME OF OFFICERS WHO WERE IN A COUPLE OF HELICOPTERS, AND, UM, YEAH, SO... WHAT STATE WERE YOU IN THEN? > WELL, I THOUGHT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO SHOOT ME AND THAT IT WOULD ALL BE COVERED UP AND HUSHED UP SOMEHOW, UM, SO I HAD TO` EVEN THOUGH I WAS PARANOID AND QUITE SORT OF FEARFUL OF THE POLICE, LIKE I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE MY FRIENDS, UM, EVEN BEFORE RAURIMU HAPPENED, UH, I HAD TO TRUST THEM AND JUST LET MYSELF BE TAKEN, YEAH. WE WERE TOLD THAT WE COULD GO TO WAIKERIA ` I THINK IT WAS ` PRISON, WHERE HE WAS TAKEN. AND I SAID THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN GO AND SEE HIM, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I HAD SUCH MIXED FEELINGS ABOUT WHAT HAD HAPPENED. BUT I KNEW THAT HE'D BE FEELING VERY ALONE. HE'D BE VERY, UM, MIXED UP IN HIS FEELINGS, AND SO WHO BETTER TO GO SEE THAN HIS MUM? AND IMMEDIATELY WHEN I SAW HIM, I JUST HUGGED HIM AND JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT HE WAS ALL RIGHT, UM, AND I JUST HAVEN'T LOOKED BACK. TENSE MUSIC ALTHOUGH STEVE KNOWS HE'S A DIFFERENT MAN TO WHAT HE WAS ALL THOSE YEARS AGO, HE AND HIS MOTHER ARE AWARE MANY SIMPLY WON'T ACCEPT THAT, NOR WILL THEY FORGIVE. MANY PEOPLE OUT THERE, INCLUDING RELATIVES OF THOSE WHO DIED, > WOULD SAY YOU SHOT 10 PEOPLE; YOU KILLED SIX; YOU SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED OUT AT ALL. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO THAT? YEAH, LOOK, THAT IS A` THAT'S A FAIR ENOUGH OPINION. UM, IF` WELL, SOME` PEOPLE CAN EXPERIENCE A PSYCHOSIS AND RECOVER, AND I TRY TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR MY MIND THESE DAYS. UM, I DO THAT IN A NUMBER OF WAYS. I TAKE MEDICATION. HAVE YOU FORGIVEN YOURSELF, STEVE? UM, I THINK I'VE LET MYSELF OFF THE HOOK TO SOME DEGREE. UH, I STILL HAVE, LIKE YOU` LIKE WE DISCUSSED BEFORE, I'VE GOT THE IMAGES AND EVERYTHING OF WHAT HAPPENED. UM, I` I DON'T KNOW IF I'VE TOTALLY FORGIVEN MYSELF. UM, I` THAT'S A` I DON'T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT, 18 YEARS AFTER THAT DAY, STEVE HOPES HE CAN MAKE AMENDS BY CONTRIBUTING TO SOCIETY. HE SAYS HE'S READY. THE QUESTION IS ` ARE WE READY FOR HIM? WELCOME BACK. SO, STEPHEN ANDERSON HAS BEEN GETTING TREATMENT IN HOSPITAL FOR MUCH OF THE PAST TWO DECADES, AND HIS DOCTORS SAY HE'S MAKING TREMENDOUS PROGRESS, AND NOW HE'S SLOWLY BEING REINTEGRATED BACK INTO THE COMMUNITY. AND THE QUESTION IS ` WHAT'S THE RISK OF THAT TO THE REST OF US? AND WILL WE GIVE HIM THE CHANCE TO PROVE THAT HE'S SAFE? TENSE MUSIC STEVE ANDERSON HAS BECOME A TALENTED JEWELLER, CRAFTING AND CREATING IN GOLD AND STERLING SILVER. I JUST LOVE CREATING SOMETHING AND ALSO THE PROCESS WHERE YOU HAVE TO DEVOTE ALL YOUR ATTENTION INTO WHAT YOU'RE DOING GETS YOU OUT OF ANY NEGATIVE STUFF THAT MIGHT BE GOING ON. IT'S ALMOST LIKE BEING IN THE NOW OR BEING MINDFUL OF YOUR ACTIVITY. MUSIC CONTINUES SUCH IS THE QUALITY OF HIS WORK, STEVE WAS RECENTLY ASKED TO TEACH A CLASS AT INVERLOCHY HOUSE IN WELLINGTON. WHAT WAS WONDERFUL ABOUT IT WAS THE PEOPLE TOOK ME AS THEY FOUND ME, AND THEY GAVE ME AN OPPORTUNITY. BUT HIS TIME AT THE JEWELLERY SCHOOL DIDN'T LAST. HIS BOSS DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT HIS PAST, THE STORY MADE THE PAPER, AND STEVE LOST HIS JOB. AND EVEN THOUGH I'D MENTIONED TO MANAGEMENT A NUMBER OF TIMES, 'HEY, I'M A PATIENT IN HOSPITAL,' I GUESS IT WASN'T A FULL DISCLOSURE. SO, HANG ON, YOU DID TELL THEM THAT YOU WERE A PATIENT AT PORIRUA? YEAH, I DID, YEAH. AND, UM` BUT LIKE I SAID, I DON'T GO AROUND SAYING, 'HI, I'M STEVE. I SHOT 10 PEOPLE.' THERE IS NO POLICY DICTATING STEVE MUST DISCLOSE HIS HISTORY, BUT WHAT'S OBVIOUS FROM THE FALLOUT AT INVERLOCHY IS THAT HIS PAST WILL IN A WAY ALWAYS AFFECT HIM. EVEN THE COURT FINDING HIM NOT GUILTY THROUGH INSANITY IS STILL A PROBLEM FOR SOME. IT'S VERY HARD FOR SOME PEOPLE TO ACCEPT OR UNDERSTAND BECAUSE HE CLEARLY DID DO THE ACT, BUT HE'S NOT GUILTY IN THAT LEGAL SENSE. AND SO EVEN JUST GETTING THAT UNDERSTANDING IS QUITE CHALLENGING FOR PEOPLE. NIGEL FAIRLEY, THE DIRECTOR OF CENTRAL FORENSIC MENTAL HEALTH, HAS KNOWN STEVE FOR 16 YEARS AND HELPS MAKE DECISIONS ABOUT HIS LEAVE. A RELATIVE OF ONE OF THOSE KILLED HAS TOLD ME HE BELIEVES STEVE IS HIDING BEHIND HIS DISABILITY AND WAS EVIL ON THAT DAY. WHAT'S YOUR OPINION OF THAT? WELL, LOOK, I DON'T REALLY WANT TO COMMENT ON VICTIMS. WE CAN ONLY HAVE HUGE SYMPATHY FOR VICTIMS AND THE IMPACT OF WHAT HAPPENED HAD ON THEIR LIVES. BUT THAT'S SIMPLY JUST NOT TRUE. BUT HOW DO YOU ASSURE THE PUBLIC THAT EVERYTHING'S GOING TO BE OK? IT'S VERY HARD TO MAKE A 100% GUARANTEE. I DON'T THINK ANYONE CAN MAKE THAT KIND OF GUARANTEE, BUT WHAT I CAN DO IS MAKE A GUARANTEE AROUND THE SYSTEM AND THE CHECKS AND BALANCES THAT ARE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THAT PUBLIC SAFETY IS TAKEN ACCOUNT OF AND HIS OWN SAFETY IS TAKEN ACCOUNT OF. THE CHECKS AND BALANCES INCLUDE CONSTANT MONITORING AND MEDICATION. THERE'S A CHAIN OF COMMAND NOW. YOU KNOW, TO SOME DEGREE I CAN MOVE AROUND IN THE COMMUNITY AND DO THINGS, BUT I HAVE TO ANSWER TO MY DOCTOR, WHO HAS TO ANSWER TO HOSPITAL HEALTH AUTHORITIES, WHO HAVE TO ANSWER TO THE MINISTRY. AND LOOK, IF I DON'T PLAY THE GAME, THEY COME DOWN ON ME LIKE A TON OF BRICKS. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 2011 WHEN STEVE HAD FULL LEAVE IN THE COMMUNITY BUT THEN ADMITTED USING SYNTHETIC CANNABIS. HE WAS RECALLED TO HOSPITAL. SO YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH AGAIN? > I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT PATH AGAIN, YEAH. I WOULD BE BACK IN A FORENSIC UNIT, AND I DON'T WANT THAT. AND ALSO IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT ME. BECAUSE, LIKE, UH,... PEOPLE ARE BACKING ME UP, AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE THEIR REPUTATION'S ON THE LINE AS WELL. AND I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO ANYTHING THAT'S GOING TO RUIN THAT FOR BOTH MYSELF AND THEM. WHAT ABOUT HIS REGIME OF MEDICATION? AS WE KNOW, STEVE DIDN'T TAKE HIS PILLS BEFORE THE HORROR AT RAURIMU. NOW WITH THE MEDICATION YOU'RE TAKING,... > PILLS BEFORE THE HORROR AT RAURIMU. NOW WITH THE MEDICATION YOU'RE TAKING,... > YEAH. ...YOU OBVIOUSLY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE AND NECESSITY TO KEEP UP THE REGIME OF MEDICATION? YEAH, MOST DEFINITELY. I COMPLY WITH DOCTORS' ORDERS. I TAKE MY PILLS. YEAH. I ACTUALLY GET SOME BENEFIT. LIKE I SAID, THEY'RE KIND OF` WELL, I'VE DESCRIBED THEM AS MIND-NUMBING KIND OF DRUGS THAT, YOU KNOW` I MEAN, JUST LOOK AT ME. I'VE PUT ON A LOT OF WEIGHT. THAT'S THE MOST OBVIOUS THING THAT I HAVE TO LIVE WITH. BUT I'M DO GET` I DO GET BENEFIT. I'M LESS SENSITIVE TO THE KIND OF TRAUMA THAT I STILL PERCEIVE COMES AT ME FROM CERTAIN THINGS. THAT PERCEIVED TRAUMA COMES IN ORDINARY, EVERYDAY INFORMATION, LIKE TELEVISION ADVERTISEMENTS. IN THE PAST, STEVE'S INTERPRETED SUCH MESSAGES TO BE SIGNIFICANT AND DIRECTLY RELEVANT TO HIS LIFE. THEY DESCRIBE THEM AS IDEAS OF REFERENCE, BUT I RECKON THEY ARE GENUINE REFERENCES FROM THE SYSTEM, SO, YOU KNOW, UM... BUT I LIVE WITH THEM NOW. I FIND I TAKE THE PILLS; I CAN LIVE WITH THEM. AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF STEVE'S CONDITION. IT WILL LIKELY BE A LIFELONG BATTLE. WHAT'S DIFFERENT NOW, THOUGH, IS THAT HE RECOGNISES HIS ILLNESS AND IS GETTING BETTER. I THINK I'VE GOT TOOLS NOW IN MY MIND THAT HELP ME COPE. FOR 18 YEARS, I'VE NEVER BEEN OFF MY MEDICATION TO THE POINT WHERE I GOT PSYCHOTIC AGAIN. HOW DOES SOCIETY BECOME MORE ACCEPTING AND MORE UNDERSTANDING OF PEOPLE LIKE STEVE ANDERSON? TO A DEGREE, IS THAT AN IMPOSSIBILITY? NO, LOOK, I WOULD HOPE THAT IT'S NOT AN IMPOSSIBILITY. I DO THINK IT IS A CHALLENGE. I WOULD HOPE THAT PROGRAMMES SUCH AS THIS MIGHT HELP STIMULATE THE DEBATE. HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING IN RECENT TIMES TO GIVE YOU CONCERNS ABOUT STEVE ANDERSON? ABOUT HIS MENTAL STATE? NO. SO, WHAT ARE THE CHANCES OF SPECIAL PATIENTS LIKE STEVE ANDERSON REOFFENDING? WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN TWO RECENT STUDIES WHICH SAY, YES, THERE IS A SMALL RISK. BUT IT'S A DRAMATICALLY LOWER RISK COMPARED TO REOFFENDING BY CRIMINALS WHO ARE RELEASED FROM PRISON. 'STEVE'S LEGAL ADVISOR AND NOW FRIEND MICHAEL BOTT THINKS 'SOCIETY NEEDS TO TRY HARDER TO ACCEPT PEOPLE LIKE STEVE.' IN STEPHEN'S CASE, HE RESPONDS TO TREATMENT AND HAS SOMETHING TO GIVE BACK. THE QUESTION IS ` IS SOCIETY READY TO ACCEPT HIM? ARE WE MATURE ENOUGH, AND DO WE ACCEPT THAT PEOPLE WHO ARE MENTALLY UNWELL CAN BECOME BETTER AND CAN BECOME WELL AND THAT THEY HAVE SOMETHING TO GIVE SOCIETY? OR ARE WE GOING TO LABEL THEM SORT OF LIKE LEPERS THAT WE WANT TO BE DISTANCED FROM? SO, YOU'VE GOT SOME OF STEVE'S WORK HERE, CHRISSY? DISTANCED FROM? SO, YOU'VE GOT SOME OF STEVE'S WORK HERE, CHRISSY? YEAH, UM, STEVE... SOME HAVE ALREADY ACCEPTED STEVE ANDERSON. CHRISSY O STOCKS AND SELLS HIS JEWELLERY, EVEN THOUGH SHE'S AWARE OF HIS PAST. I WASN'T GOING TO MAKE THAT CHANGE WHAT I WAS FEELING ABOUT HIM AND HOW WE WERE DOING BUSINESS BECAUSE I KNOW HIM TO BE A GOOD PERSON AND A HARD-WORKING PERSON. AND HE'S SOMEONE WHO'S HAVING TO KIND OF DEAL WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO HIM. AND OBVIOUSLY HE WASN'T IN A GOOD SPACE THEN, BUT HE IS NOW. YOU KNOW, HE'S LEADING AN EVERYDAY LIFE, WHERE HE'S WORKING AND CREATING AND SO` DO YOU THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO GIVE PEOPLE CHANCES LIKE THAT? DEFINITELY. I DEFINITELY THINK THAT IT IS, YEP. THIS IS A LITTLE SANCTUARY, YOU KNOW? THIS IS A REFUGE FOR ME. THE REALITY, THOUGH, IS THAT NOT EVERYONE WILL THINK LIKE THIS. AND TO A DEGREE, IT'LL ALWAYS BE A BIT OF A HOSTILE WORLD FOR STEVE ANDERSON. WHAT IS CLEAR, THOUGH, IS THAT THE HEALTH AUTHORITIES DO HAVE CONFIDENCE IN HIM AND HE IS STEPPING TOWARDS GREATER FREEDOM. WE'VE BEEN TOLD WITHIN SIX MONTHS, HE'LL LIKELY BE GIVEN OVERNIGHT LEAVE TO STAY AT HIS MUM'S PLACE. I GUESS I JUST WANT AS REGULAR LIFE AS I CAN MANAGE, YOU KNOW. WOULD YOU LIKE TO HOPE THAT THE COMMUNITY WILL ALLOW YOU THAT CHANCE TO GET ON AND LEAD A PRODUCTIVE LIFE? COMMUNITY WILL ALLOW YOU THAT CHANCE TO GET ON AND LEAD A PRODUCTIVE LIFE? I GUESS, UM... YEAH, WELL, I GUESS, ONCE AGAIN, I'M NOT IN CONTROL OF WHAT PEOPLE THINK, YOU KNOW. UM, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO THINK WHAT THEY WANT, AND I CAN'T REALLY DICTATE THAT, BUT I CAN ASK FOR ANOTHER GO, YOU KNOW. AND, UM, I'M NOT GOING TO LET THEM DOWN. HOPEFUL MUSIC I LOVE MY SON, MM. YES, I WANT TO SEE HIM GET ON. I WANT TO SEE HIM BE ALLOWED TO GET ON WITH HIS LIFE. MM. HE'S GOT A LOT TO GIVE. UM,... I GUESS I JUST WANT TO REASSURE PEOPLE ON SOME LEVEL THAT THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES I GUESS I JUST WANT TO REASSURE PEOPLE ON SOME LEVEL THAT THERE ARE CHECKS AND BALANCES AND ALSO PUT A FACE TO THAT PERSON THAT'S BEEN CAST AS... AS JUST A TERRIBLE, EVIL MAN, AND I'M NOT THAT PERSON. HMM, WELL, HE DOES SEEM TO BE ON TRACK, MICHAEL, BUT YOU'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH HIM NOW. WHAT'S YOUR IMPRESSION OF STEPHEN? TRACK, MICHAEL, BUT YOU'VE SPENT QUITE A BIT OF TIME WITH HIM NOW. WHAT'S YOUR IMPRESSION OF STEPHEN? YEAH, LOOK, HE STRUCK ME AS A VERY ARTICULATE AND THOUGHTFUL BLOKE, AND HE SEEMED VERY DETERMINED AND FOCUSED ON HIS RECOVERY AND HIS DESIRE TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY. LOOK, I HAVE TO SAY HE'S BRAVE. HE'S VERY BRAVE TO COME ON THE PROGRAMME. AND, LOOK, THERE IS SUCH A THING AS REHABILITATION, AND I GUESS THE CHALLENGE IS FOR US, FOR SOCIETY, IS TO UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS A MENTAL ILLNESS, THAT IT IS A MENTAL ILLNESS AND THINK ABOUT THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF WHAT IS A GREAT TRAGEDY. YEAH, AND IF YOU HAVE ANY CONCERNS ABOUT MENTAL HEALTH ISSUES, YOU CAN GO TO OUR WEBSITE FOR INFORMATION ON WHERE TO GET HELP. ALL RIGHT, COMING UP ` SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL, CAPTIVATING MOMENTS OF NZ TELEVISION HISTORY. IT'S A HIGHLIGHTS REEL LIKE NEVER BEFORE. TWINKLING MUSIC # You are everything to me. # You are everything we'll be. # You are everything I see. # You are everything to me. Stay closer this Christmas on NZ's largest 4G network. WELCOME BACK. NOW, THERE'S A SAYING IN THIS INDUSTRY ` 'THAT'S THE MONEY SHOT.' AND WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO SEE NOW ARE THOSE VERY MOMENTS ` THOSE MONEY SHOTS ` AN IMPORTANT INVESTIGATION, INTIMATE EXCLUSIVES AND REVEALING TELL-ALLS, ALL SHOT OVER THE PAST TWO AND A HALF DECADES. YES, BECAUSE HERE AT THIRD DEGREE, WE'RE PROUD TO BE PART OF A STRONG TRADITION OF CURRENT AFFAIRS AT TV3, AND WE'RE CELEBRATING OUR 25 YEARS. AWARD-WINNING CURRENT AFFAIRS WITH... THIS IS 60 MINUTES... DRAMATIC TV THEME MUSIC CLOCK TICKS NO ONE SEEMED TO CARE ENOUGH ABOUT FINDING OUT WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. THE ONE THING THEY DID KNOW WAS THAT THE ODDS WERE AGAINST THEM EVER GETTING THERE ALIVE. AND IT WOULD TAKE THREE YEARS FOR THE FULL EXTENT OF THEIR ACTIVITIES TO BECOME KNOWN. AROUND THE WORLD, CHILLINGLY SIMILAR ALLEGATIONS HAVE EMERGED. HERE, THE RESPONSE WAS AS SWIFT AS IT WAS VOCIFEROUS. THEY'VE CONTINUED TO KIDNAP, INTIMIDATE AND MURDER PEOPLE. BUT WHAT HAPPENED IN THE NEXT TWO HOURS HAS BEEN DESCRIBED BY MANY AS A MIRACLE. WOULD IT SURPRISE YOU, THEN, IF WE'VE HAD ALLEGATIONS FROM MORE THAN ONE WOMAN THAT YOU, IN FACT, HAVE USED VIBRATORS IN YOUR SURGERY ON THEM? > YES, IT WOULD SURPRISE ME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHO THE PEOPLE ARE? AS I SAID, THAT IS NOT OUR POSITION` YES, IT WOULD SURPRISE ME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHO THE PEOPLE ARE? AS I SAID, THAT IS NOT OUR POSITION` HOLD ON, IF YOU HAVE MADE THAT CLAIM AND THAT ACCUSATION, YES, IT WOULD SURPRISE ME. WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL ME WHO THE PEOPLE ARE? THEN YOU'RE COMING PRETTY CLOSE TO A DEFAMATION, AMANDA, SO BE VERY CAREFUL. CAR HORN BEEPS MORGAN FAHEY WAS ARRESTED ON 13 SEX OFFENCES INVOLVING 11 WOMEN. AT THE LAST MINUTE MORGAN FAHEY PLEADED GUILTY TO ALL CHARGES AND WAS SENTENCED TO SIX YEARS IN JAIL. RUMMAGING IT'S DINNERTIME AT THE COOPERITES WHEN PHIL COOPER ARRIVES. ABOUT 150 MEN, WOMEN AND CHILDREN ARE HAVING THEIR EVENING MEAL. NEVILLE COOPER IS NOT PLEASED TO SEE HIS SON. RING THE POLICE! NEVILLE COOPER IS NOT PLEASED TO SEE HIS SON. RING THE POLICE! YOU HAVE GOT NO RIGHT IN HERE IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN INVITED IN HERE. THIS IS PRIVATE PROPERTY. ALL MY DAUGHTER WANTS TO DO IS SEE HER MOTHER! PHIL COOPER IS THROWN OUT, ALONG WITH OUR CAMERAMAN. MEANWHILE, OUR EQUIPMENT GETS BROKEN, AND ONE OF OUR CAMERAMEN IS BEATEN. THE OTHER KEPT THE COOPERITES AT BAY LONG ENOUGH TO ESCAPE WITH THIS TAPE OF THE CONFRONTATION. FRANCES DIDN'T KNOW IT RIGHT AWAY, BUT HER PRINCE CHARMING WAS ONE OF THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA'S MOST NOTORIOUS KILLERS. 30 YEARS AGO I HAD A FULL PSYCHOTIC BREAK, AND I KILLED MY FIRST WIFE, AND SHE WAS PREGNANT. AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS GOT HURT. DO YOU EVER ASK YOURSELF, 'WHAT AM I DOING HERE?' AND MY FAMILY MEMBERS GOT HURT. DO YOU EVER ASK YOURSELF, 'WHAT AM I DOING HERE?' WELL, I DO. I DO. AND THEN I THINK, 'WELL, I'VE GOT RICHARD.' AND THE FACT HE'S LOCKED UP IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL? 'WELL, I'VE GOT RICHARD.' AND THE FACT HE'S LOCKED UP IN A MENTAL HOSPITAL? IT DOESN'T MAKE ANY DIFFERENCE, NO. SO HOW DO YOU COPE WITH THE THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE YOU MEET, ORDINARY NZERS, DESPITE YOUR NOT GUILTY VERDICT, STILL LOOK AT YOU AND THINK YOU DID IT. YOU MURDERED YOUR FAMILY. THE ONLY THING I CAN SAY TO EVERYBODY OUT THERE AND TO ALL MY FRIENDS IS I WASN'T THERE. I COULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE. I MEAN, FACTS NOW HAVE COME` YOU KNOW, BEEN EXPOSED THAT PROVE I WASN'T THERE. FOR RICKARDS, THE SEX CLAIMS THAT DOGGED HIM FOR YEARS WERE FINALLY PUT TO REST. BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN HE'S A FREE MAN. YES, MY CAREER'S BEEN DESTROYED. YES, MY LIFE'S BEEN DESTROYED. YES, I'M BROKE. THERE IS NO DOUBT THAT AUDREY WALLACE HAD A DESPERATE DESIRE TO DIE. BUT DESPITE HER MANY YEARS OF ANGUISH AND PLENTY OF OPPORTUNITY, SHE NEVER CARRIED THROUGH WITH IT, UNTIL SHE MET A WOMAN NAMED SUSAN WILSON. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE ALL KNOW THAT YOU HELPED AUDREY DIE. I NEVER TOUCHED HER. THEY TAKE HIM TO THE RIGHT STREET, AND NOT ONLY POINT HIM IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, THEY ACTUALLY SHOW HIM WHICH HOUSE IT WAS. THIS IS THE HOUSE HERE I'M SHOWING YOU AT 105 PAH RD, WITH THIS HEDGE HERE, ALL RIGHT? < DOES THAT MEAN ANYTHING TO YOU? WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU? (MUMBLES) > WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU? (MUMBLES) > IT'S THE HOUSE YOU CAME TO. DO YOU COUNTENANCE ANY POSSIBILITY THAT TEINA PORA MIGHT BE INNOCENT? UH, I GUESS LEGALLY, UM, THAT'S NOT POSSIBLE, BECAUSE HE HAS INDEED BEEN FOUND GUILTY. THE AUTHORITIES CAN ONLY TRY THEIR BEST. MANY BODIES ARE NOW SECURED AT A TEMPORARY MORGUE AT THE BURNHAM MILITARY CAMP. OTHERS LIE COVERED UP ON THE STREETS WHILE THE FOCUS IS ON SURVIVORS. IT'S MORE SOMBRE EVIDENCE, IF IT'S NEEDED, OF THE SCALE OF THIS TRAGEDY. MY OWN BROTHER HELPED PULL A WOMAN FROM A BUS CRUSHED UNDER THE RUBBLE. WHEN YOU'RE THERE... SORTA THINK ABOUT YOUR OWN FAMILY. UPLIFTING MUSIC LINKIN PARK'S 'ROADS UNTRAVELED' UPLIFTING PIANO CHORDS THIS WAS MURUROA'S MAIN AERIAL TEST BUNKER. THE 60 MINUTES TEAM ARE GOING TO BE STRANDED FOR THE NIGHT AT MCMURDO BASE. BEAUTIFUL. WHISPERS: WE'LL SEE HOW THEY GO. # WEEP NOT FOR ROADS UNTRAVELLED. TEARFULLY: I CAN'T LET GO JUST LET. # WEEP NOT FOR PATHS LEFT ALONE. WAS IN THERE, LOCKED AWAY FOR SOMETHING THAT I DIDN'T DO. # COS BEYOND EVERY BEND IS A LONG, BLINDING END. # IT'S THE WORST KIND OF PAIN I'VE KNOWN. DID HE EVER HIT YOU WHEN YOU WERE PREGNANT? > OF PAIN I'VE KNOWN. DID HE EVER HIT YOU WHEN YOU WERE PREGNANT? > OH YEAH. YEAH. IT WAS LIKE THERE WASN'T REALLY MUCH OF A DIFFERENCE OF WHETHER I WAS PREGNANT OR NOT TO HIM. AND THERE WAS A BOY, HE WAS LYING DOWN, AND THERE WAS BLOOD DRIPPING STRAIGHT DOWN INTO THE DRAIN. AND I REMEMBER THINKING, 'WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?' < ARE YOU ASKING THEM FOR FORGIVENESS? THE HELL IS GOING ON HERE?' < ARE YOU ASKING THEM FOR FORGIVENESS? I AM ASKING THEM FOR FORGIVENESS. I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT HIM ON A PEDESTAL. THERE'S A GOOD PERSON UNDERNEATH ALL THIS. < EVER WOKEN UP AND THOUGHT, 'LOOK, I'D QUITE LIKE NOT TO BE PETER ELLIS TODAY'? NO. I'M SORRY. NO, I'M ALWAYS QUITE HAPPY BEING PETER ELLIS. I'VE GOT NO QUALMS ABOUT THAT. # GIVE UP YOUR HEART LEFT BROKEN. # AND LET THAT MISTAKE PASS ON. # COS THE LOVE THAT YOU LOST # WASN'T WORTH WHAT IT COST. # AND IN TIME YOU'LL BE GLAD IT'S GONE. MUSIC CRESCENDOES FUCK OFF. YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT. DON'T FILM ME OTHERWISE I'LL SMASH YOUR CAMERA. INNOCENT NZERS` DON'T FILM ME OTHERWISE I'LL SMASH YOUR CAMERA. INNOCENT NZERS` I'LL BREAK YOUR FRIGGING CAMERA. I'LL BREAK IT. LEAVE THE CAMERAMAN ALONE. ...FORMER INMATE? HAVE YOU EVER HAD A RELATIONSHIP WITH A FORMER INMATE? I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT, WITH WHAT I SAID THEN. A RELATIONSHIP WITH A FORMER INMATE? I THINK I'M PRETTY GOOD WITH THAT, WITH WHAT I SAID THEN. OH, MATE. NO NO NO, YOU SIT DOWN. MR BASHIR, ARE YOU WORRIED ABOUT BEING ARRESTED? MR BASHIR? I'VE HAD ENOUGH! YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH. I'VE HAD ENOUGH! YOU'VE HAD ENOUGH. JUST LEAVE ME ALONE, PLEASE. GO AWAY! MUSIC CRESCENDOES # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA. # WEEP NOT FOR ROADS UNTRAVELLED. # WEEP NOT FOR SIGHTS UNSEEN. # MAY YOUR LOVE NEVER END. # AND IF YOU NEED A FRIEND, # THERE'S A SEAT HERE ALONGSIDE ME. # I HAVE ALWAYS TAKEN IT FOR GRANTED. PEOPLE HATED ME IN NZ. THEY REALLY DID. THEY DIDN'T GET ME AT ALL. I FIND IT THE HARDEST THING IN MY LIFE AT THE MOMENT IS TRYING TO BE ME. WE HAVE TO KEEP DOWN. THE GUNS ARE GOING OFF, AND THEY MAY WELL SHOOT US. WE HAVE TO KEEP DOWN. THE GUNS ARE WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW IS THE CROWD` US. WE HAVE TO KEEP DOWN. THE GUNS ARE WHAT WE'VE GOT NOW IS THE CROWD` GUNFIRE # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA, WHOA. # WHOA. # WHAT A GREAT LOOK-BACK OVER THE YEARS. ISN'T IT INCREDIBLE THE MOMENTS THAT WERE CAPTURED? THOSE HISTORIC MOMENTS OVER 25 YEARS. CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH BIFFO WAS IN THAT SHOWREEL, THOUGH. ABSOLUTELY, AND ONE THING ABOUT THAT ` IF YOU DO HIT THE CAMERAMAN, WE'LL DEFINITELY BE USING THE SHOT. THAT'S RIGHT, FOR PROBABLY QUITE SOME TIME. YOU MIGHT FIND YOURSELF IN THE NEXT 25TH SHOWREEL AS WELL. RIGHT, WHEN WE COME BACK, THE FROZEN CONTINENT THAT IS NOT SO FROZEN. WHAT ANTARCTICA LOOKED LIKE MILLIONS OF YEARS AGO WHEN THERE WAS THE SAME AMOUNT OF CARBON DIOXIDE IN THE ATMOSPHERE AS THERE IS TODAY. WELCOME BACK TO THIRD DEGREE. NOW, I WASN'T HERE LAST WEEK BECAUSE I WAS OUT AND ABOUT CAMPING IN THE MOUNTAINS IN ANTARCTICA. AND IT WAS ABOUT MINUS-15, MIKE. COLDER WHEN YOU FACTOR IN WIND CHILL. WHY? COLDER WHEN YOU FACTOR IN WIND CHILL. WHY? WELL, I DID ASK MYSELF THAT A FEW TIMES. IT WAS CERTAINLY CHALLENGING. BUT WE WERE FILMING A STORY ABOUT CLIMATE CHANGE. SO IT IS GOING TO BE RUNNING NEXT YEAR. WE'LL HAVE THE FULL STORY FOR YOU NEXT YEAR, BUT HERE'S A LITTLE PREVIEW. ATMOSPHERIC MUSIC THIS IS THE EAST ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET ` AN AREA ROUGHLY THE SIZE OF AUSTRALIA. ICE OVER 4KM THICK CONTAINING MORE THAN HALF THE WORLD'S FRESH WATER. IT LOOKS UNTOUCHED AND UNTOUCHABLE, BUT WE'VE FOUND A WAY TO RUIN IT. WE ALWAYS THOUGHT THE EAST ANTARCTIC ICE SHEET WAS BIG AND STABLE AND WAS RESISTANT TO WARMING. AND NOW WHAT WE'RE DISCOVERING IS THERE'S PARTS OF IT THAT ARE SOGGY ROUND THE EDGES. OUR CARBON DIOXIDE EMISSIONS ARE KILLING ANTARCTICA. THE FROZEN CONTINENT IS MELTING AT THE FASTEST RATE WE'VE EVER SEEN IN HUMAN HISTORY. SO HOW LONG HAVE WE GOT? THE GREENHOUSE GASES WE'RE PUSHING INTO THE ATMOSPHERE ARE HEATING THE PLANET TO A LEVEL NOT SEEN FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS. AND THE LATEST DISCOVERIES OF FOSSIL RECORDS LAID DOWN IN ANTARCTICA'S PREHISTORIC ROCKS ARE TELLING OUR SCIENTISTS THE CONTINENT'S FUTURE IS HEADING TOWARDS ITS PAST. WHAT DOES THIS FOSSIL TELL US ABOUT WHAT ANTARCTICA USED TO LOOK LIKE? WELL, FIRST OF ALL IT TELLS US IT WAS GREEN AND VEGETATIVE. AND WE CAN GET A TEMPERATURE ESTIMATE HERE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL IT TELLS US IT AND WHAT WAS THAT APPROXIMATELY? GET A TEMPERATURE ESTIMATE HERE. WELL, FIRST OF ALL IT TELLS US IT AND WHAT WAS THAT APPROXIMATELY? ABOUT EIGHT DEGREES CENTIGRADE. RATHER THAN MINUS-18 OR WHATEVER IT IS NOW. (LAUGHS) SO THAT STORY WE'LL HAVE FOR YOU NEXT YEAR. AND I HAVE TO SAY, IT'S SO HARD TO GET YOUR HEAD AROUND THIS IDEA THAT IT WAS EIGHT DEGREES OR 10 DEGREES WHEN YOU'RE WEARING SO MANY LAYERS JUST TO TRY AND STAY WARM. AND YOU HAVE TO ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, GET BACK INTO YOUR TENT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE JUST TO TRY AND STAY WARM. AND YOU SO YOU DON'T FREEZE. INTO YOUR TENT AS OFTEN AS POSSIBLE JUST TO TRY AND STAY WARM. AND YOU SO YOU DON'T FREEZE. OK, INTERESTING. KEY QUESTION HERE IS HOW DO YOU DO THE BASICS? HOW DO YOU GET THAT DONE? LIKE GOING TO THE TOILET? (GROANS) OH NO. UM, RIGHT` THE BASICS? HOW DO YOU GET THAT DONE? LIKE GOING TO THE TOILET? (GROANS) OH NO. UM, RIGHT` IMPORTANT QUESTION. DONE? LIKE GOING TO THE TOILET? (GROANS) OH NO. UM, RIGHT` IMPORTANT QUESTION. OK, IT IS AN IMPORTANT QUESTION. I'LL SAY IT'S DIFFICULT. IT'S EASIER FOR THE GUYS THAN IT IS FOR THE GIRLS. EVERYTHING IN ANTARCTICA ` ALL OF THE WASTE STREAMS, ALL OF IT ` HAS TO BE TAKEN BACK. YOU CAN'T LEAVE ANYTHING IN THE FIELD. SO I'LL SAY THIS ` THERE'S A BUCKET FOR THE OBVIOUS. AND IF YOU'RE A GIRL, YOU HAVE SOMETHING CALLED A FEMALE URINARY DEVICE. NEVER THOUGHT I'D BE TALKING ABOUT THIS ON TELEVISION. AND THAT HELPS YOU WITH YOUR PEE-BOTTLE SITUATION. RIGHT. THIS ON TELEVISION. AND THAT HELPS YOU WITH YOUR PEE-BOTTLE SITUATION. RIGHT. RIGHT, THAT'S ABOUT ALL I'M GONNA TELL YOU ABOUT THAT. OK, WE'LL HAVE THAT FULL STORY ABOUT HOW ANTARCTICA WAS ONCE A FOREST WHEN WE COME BACK. AND, OF COURSE, WHEN WE COME BACK IS NEXT YEAR, BECAUSE THAT'S US FOR 2014. SO WE DO HOPE YOU ENJOYED WATCHING THE PROGRAMME. WE CERTAINLY LOVED HAVING YOU ALONG FOR THE RIDE. HAVE A WONDERFUL EVENING AND A SAFE CHRISTMAS. WE'LL SEE YOU IN 2015. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2014