WE'VE GOT TWO VERY BRAVE WOMEN ON THE SHOW TONIGHT. I'LL TALK TO ONE VERY SHORTLY. YOU'VE GOT ONE TOO. ALL RIGHT, THANKS GUYS. WELCOME TO THE SHOW. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. WE'VE GOT TWO VERY BRAVE WOMEN ON THE SHOW TONIGHT. I'LL TALK TO ONE VERY SHORTLY. YOU'VE GOT ONE TOO. YEAH, YOU'RE TALKING TO HELEN KELLY. HELEN KELLY FOR ME, YEP. I'M TALKING TO DIPIKA PATEL. SHE'S THE WOMAN WHO TOOK A BROOM HANDLE TO A KID WIELDING A GUN. HOW'S THAT FOR BRAVERY? REALLY BRAVE STUFF. YEAH. YEAH, BUT FIRST UP ON THE SHOW, AS WE SAID, WE'RE GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT FIGHTING CANCER, AND NOW BATTLING FOR PAIN RELIEF. IS IT TIME THE COUNTRY BACKED HELEN KELLY AND MADE MEDICINAL CANNABIS A LEGAL OPTION? AND WHAT WAS GOING THROUGH HER HEAD? WE HEAR FROM THE DAIRY OWNER WHO TOOK A BROOM TO A GUN-WIELDING 12-YEAR-OLD. AMAZING FOOTAGE. YEAH, AND NITS ARE GETTING TOUGHER TO KILL, APPARENTLY. SO HOW CAN YOU BEAT THE BLOODSUCKERS? CAPTIONS BY GLENNA CASALME AND VIRGINIA PHILP. WWW.ABLE.CO.NZ CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2015 THANKS AGAIN FOR YOUR COMPANY. IF YOU WANNA SEE A SUZUKI SWIFT GO AROUND BLIND CORNERS AT 150 KM/HR, STICK AROUND, BECAUSE WE HAVE THAT LATER ON IN THE SHOW. NOW, MEDICAL MARIJUANA. IT USED TO BE SEEN AS A FRINGE OPTION, I SUPPOSE ` A MAD ALTERNATIVE TO CONVENTIONAL DRUGS. BUT THE GAME HAS CHANGED. NOT ANY MORE. THESE DAYS IN MANY COUNTRIES, IT'S ALREADY BEEN APPROVED ` AUSTRALIA, YOU'VE GOT IT IN AMERICA AS WELL ` TO TREAT A NUMBER OF CONDITIONS. BUT THAT OF COURSE ISN'T HAPPENING HERE. AND THAT'S BEEN HEARTBREAKING FOR THE SICK PEOPLE AND THEIR FAMILIES WHOLE BELIEVE IT CAN HELP THEM. NOW, ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE IS THE PRESIDENT OF THE COUNCIL OF TRADE UNIONS, HELEN KELLY, AND SHE JOINS ME NOW. HELEN, GOOD EVENING TO YOU. GOOD EVENING. YOU'VE HAD TO EFFECTIVELY BREAK THE LAW TO TAKE CANNABIS OIL IF YOU LIKE. HOW BIG WAS THAT DECISION FOR YOU? WELL, IT WASN'T A BIG DECISION FOR ME, BECAUSE I'M NOT A GREAT BELIEVER THAT` I MEAN, I BELIEVE THAT BAD LAWS ARE THERE TO BE BROKEN, ACTUALLY. BUT IT'S A BIG EXPECTATION ON OTHER PEOPLE THAT NEED TO PROVIDE ME WITH THIS DRUG TO EXPECT THEM TO BREAK THE LAW, TO TAKE THE RISK FOR WHAT IS REALLY SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE THROUGH MY DOCTORS, AND AS YOU KNOW NOW, A MAINSTREAM PAIN RELIEF IN PARTICULAR IN SOME OF THESE OTHER COUNTRIES. SO WAS IT HARD TO GET? I MEAN, DID YOU HAVE OIL OR DID YOU SMOKE IT? PEOPLE HAVE BEEN VERY GENEROUS AND VERY KIND, HELPING ME ACCESS IT. AND WHAT SORT OF IMPACT DID IT HAVE COMPARED TO CONVENTIONAL MEDICINES? WELL, IT'S INCREDIBLE, ACTUALLY. SO I'VE GOT TUMOURS IN BOTH MY HIPS AND MY SPINE AND MY BRAIN, ACTUALLY. AND WHAT YOU GET WITH THIS CANNABIS IS YOU GET THIS RELIEF OF THAT. SO IT'S SOME SORT OF ANTI-INFLAMMATORY. I'M NOT CLAIMING CANNABIS IS A CURE TO CANCER. I KNOW SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE IT'S GOT SOME CURATIVE QUALITIES. I'M NOT GONNA SELL THAT MESSAGE. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK THAT'S BEEN PROVEN AT ALL. BUT WHAT I DO KNOW WHEN I'VE TAKEN IT IS THAT IT HELPS ME RELAX AND SLEEP, AND IT'S MUCH LESS TOXIC THAN THE MORPHINE THAT I'D OTHERWISE HAVE TO TAKE TO GET THE SAME RESPONSE. AND IN FACT, YOU DON'T EVEN GET THE SAME RESPONSE. YOU GET A BIT OF A MIXED RESPONSE TO THE MORPHINE. HOW DID YOU KNOW THIS? IS THERE THIS REAL UNDERWORLD OUT THERE IN TERMS OF PEOPLE ACCESSING THIS KIND OF STUFF, YOU KNOW, WITH PEOPLE WHO ARE TERMINALLY ILL? IS THERE AN UNDERWORLD OF PEOPLE USING IT? WELL, THERE'S PLENTY PEOPLE USING IT. ACCORDING TO MY EMAIL, MY TWITTER AND MY FACEBOOK ACCOUNT. AND I GUESS THEY GET` I'M NOT BUYING IT, SO I'M NOT PAYING FOR IT. AND PEOPLE ARE BEING VERY VERY GENEROUS AND MAKING IT AVAILABLE TO PEOPLE THAT REALLY NEED IT. AND IT DOES SEEM ALL WALKS OF LIFE. DUNCAN, HONESTLY, YOU'D BE AMAZED WHO HAS CONTACTED ME AND WHO IS USING THIS DRUG ` OLD PEOPLE WHO FIND IT MUCH BETTER THAN CODEINE, WHICH THEY'RE OFTEN PRESCRIBED, WHICH MAKES THEM DOPEY; YOUNG PEOPLE, OBVIOUSLY, BUT ALSO PEOPLE WHO ARE VERY SICK. YOU STAY THERE. WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU IN THE SECOND. I WANT YOU TO LOOK AT THIS AS WELL. YES, SO WHAT ARE THE CHANCES THAT MEDICAL CANNABIS WILL BE ALLOWED IN THIS COUNTRY? AND WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LEGALIZING MARIJUANA AND LEGALIZING MEDICAL MARIJUANA? DAN PARKER TOOK A LOOK. CANNABINOIDS EXTRACTED FROM MARIJUANA ARE USED IN MEDICINE TO TREAT MANY THINGS, INCLUDING... BUT MOST OF THE MEDICINE IS NO LONGER FOCUSING ON THC, THE COMPOUND THAT GETS PEOPLE HIGH WHEN THEY SMOKE IT. INSTEAD, IT'S AN EXTRACT FROM THE PLANT CALLED CBD OR CANNABIDIOL. UNLIKE THC, IT'S NOT PSYCHOACTIVE, SO THOSE TAKING IT DON'T GET STONED. AT VICTORIA UNIVERSITY, THEY ARE WORKING ON UNDERSTANDING THE POTENTIAL OF CANNABINOIDS, WHAT THEY CAN DO AND WHETHER THEY ARE ADDICTIVE. THERE'S DEFINITELY POTENTIAL. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO GO INTO IT, BUT TECHNIQUES HAVE EVOLVED IN THE LAST FIVE YEARS OF HOW WE UNDERSTAND HOW PROTEINS WORK AND HOW MOLECULES BIND TO THE PROTEINS TO CAUSE THIS WHOLE ARRAY OF EFFECTS. THERE ARE ALREADY A NUMBER OF CANNABIS-DERIVED PRODUCTS ON SALE OVERSEAS. SOME ARE AVAILABLE HERE FOR SPECIAL CASES THAT REQUIRE MINISTERIAL APPROVAL. 27 PEOPLE ARE CURRENTLY BEING TREATED BY A PRODUCT CALLED SATIVEX. LABOUR MP DAMIEN O'CONNOR IS WORKING ON A PRIVATE MEMBER'S BILL TO STREAMLINE THE APPROVAL PROCESS TO MAKE THE MEDICINE THAT'S ALREADY AVAILABLE MORE ACCESSIBLE. I THINK THE VAST MAJORITY OF NZERS UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S SOME SENSE IN USING CANNABIS FOR MEDICINAL USE FOR PEOPLE IN DIFFICULT SITUATIONS. BUT WE DON'T WANT TO OPEN THE DOOR FOR DECRIMINALISATION, WHICH, IN MY VIEW IS ONE STEP TOO FAR. WE FOUND 11 OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE ALREADY ALLOWED CANNABIS TO BE MORE READILY AVAILABLE IN MEDICINE. THEY INCLUDE AUSTRALIA. THE STATE OF VICTORIA WILL START IN 2017. THEN THERE'S CROATIA, PORTUGAL, THE NETHERLANDS AND SPAIN, WHICH HAVE VERY RELAXED POSSESSION LAWS BUT NO FORMAL MEDICAL PROGRAMMES. ASSOCIATE HEALTH MINISTER PETER DUNNE OVERSEAS GRANTING PERMISSION FOR USING MEDICAL CANNABIS, SO WE ASKED HIM ` IF A CONSCIENCE VOTE WAS HELD TODAY, WOULD HE SUPPORT LEGALIZING IT FOR MEDICAL USE? I'M NOT GONNA COMMENT ON THAT ISSUE AT THE MOMENT. WE'VE GOT SOME VERY SENSITIVE WORK BEING DONE ON THE ISSUE, AND IT WOULD BE TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR ME TO COMMENT. HE WASN'T THE ONLY POLITICIAN WHO DIDN'T WANT TO DISCUSS THE MATTER. EXCUSE ME, MATTHEW, IN A CONSCIENCE VOTE, WOULD YOU VOTE YES OR NO FOR MEDICAL MARIJUANA? WHILE MANY OTHERS ARE TALKING BUT ARE STILL UNDECIDED. OF ITSELF, LOOK, IF IT WORKS, THEN THE GOVERNMENT IS NOT OPPOSED TO ACCEPTING THAT ADVICE. WE DON'T HAVE A SORT OF PHILOSOPHICAL VIEW THAT THE ANSWER SHOULD ALWAYS BE NO. BUT THERE ARE MANY WHO CAN PLAY A ROLE IN CHANGING OR KEEPING THE LAW THAT HAVE STRONGLY HELD VIEWS. I'LL PROBABLY VOTE TO DECRIMINALIZE. THEIR ADVISORS WHO SAY AFTER EVERYTHING ELSE HAS BEEN TRIED, THAT IT CAN BE EFFECTIVE MEDICALLY, AND I WOULDN'T WANT TO DEPRIVE PEOPLE OF THAT. I'D VOTE AGAINST IT. ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT PEOPLE OFTEN CONFUSE ALLOWING MEDICINAL CANNABIS PRODUCTS WITH LEGALIZING THE DRUG FOR RECREATIONAL USE. SO FOR MANY POLITICIANS, IT'S A TOUGH ISSUE THAT'S STAYING IN THE TOO-HARD BASKET. INTERESTING. SO NOT ONLY DID DAN CATCH UP WITH MPS IN PERSON TODAY; WE ALSO SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THE PHONE RINGING AROUND AS MANY MPS WE COULD ` A SORT OF SNAP POLL. WE ENDED UP ASKING 72 MPS ` IF THEY WERE GIVEN A CONSCIENCE VOTE TODAY, WOULD THEY ALLOW MEDICINAL CANNABIS? HAVE A LOOK AT THE NUMBERS NOW. NATIONAL ` ONE YES, SEVEN NO, AND 13 UNDECIDED. TWO DIDN'T COMMENT. LABOUR ` 16 YES, NONE SAID NO, AND FIVE UNDECIDED. AND NZ FIRST ` 12 UNDECIDED. YEAH, WAITING FOR WINSTON. UNITED FUTURE ` PETER DUNNE IS UNDECIDED. MAORI PARTY, BOTH MPS SUPPORT IT. ACT PARTY ` DAVID SEYMOUR IS UNDECIDED. GREENS ` ALL 14 MPS SUPPORT IT. NO SURPRISE THERE. SO OUT OF 72 MPS, 33 SAID YES, IF A CONSCIENCE VOTE WAS HELD, THEY WOULD ALLOW MEDICINAL CANNABIS. IF YOU WANT TO FIND OUT WHICH MPS SAID YES OR NO OR NO COMMENT, ALL RIGHT, SO HELEN KELLY HAS BEEN LISTENING TO ALL THIS. HELEN, I'LL HEAD BACK TO YOU. WHAT'S YOUR REACTION TO THAT PERHAPS SORT OF MIXED REACTION ACROSS THE BOARD? YEAH, AND I THINK IT'S UNSATISFACTORY THAT SOME POLITICIANS HAVEN'T DONE THE WORK ON THIS, ARE BEING CRIMINALIZED BY USING THIS DRUG ILLEGALLY AT THE MOMENT. I MEAN, WE ELECT POLITICIANS CONSIDER POLICY AND TO MAKE DECISIONS ON OUR BEHALF. AND I DON'T THINK IT'S GOOD ENOUGH THAT THEY CAN SIT THERE AND SAY ` EITHER THROUGH THEIR OWN PREJUDICE OR SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T TURNED THEIR MINDS TO IT ` THAT THEY DON'T HAVE A POSITION ON WHAT IS NOW A VERY IMPORTANT POLICY DISCUSSION. WILL YOU USE THIS AGAIN? WOULD YOU ACCESS THIS AGAIN? YEAH, I WILL. I WILL. BECAUSE I ACTUALLY THINK IT'S THE BEST MEDICINE FOR ME. AND I THINK IT SHOULD BE AVAILABLE FOR A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT I'M CONCERNED ABOUT. I MAY GET PERMISSION, BUT ACTUALLY, MAKING IT AVAILABLE WOULD NOT ONLY MAKE IT READILY ACCESSIBLE FOR MORE PEOPLE, BUT IT WOULD ALSO MEAN PEOPLE CAN GET IT MANUFACTURED TO THE TYPE OF DRUG THEY NEED ` RATHER THAN HAVING TO RELY ON A MATE WHO MAKES IT ` WITH WHO KNOWS WHAT STRENGTH, WHO KNOWS WHAT'S IN IT, AND WHO KNOWS WHAT IT'S GOOD FOR IT AT THE TIME. HEY, HELEN, WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME, AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BATTLE AS WELL. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU COMING ON THE PROGRAM. THANK YOU. OUR POLL RIGHT NOW HAS 96% SUPPORT FOR THIS. IT'S ON OUR FACEBOOK PAGE. 96%! HEY, I SPOKE TO PETER DUNNE ON THE RADIO TODAY, AND HE EFFECTIVELY SAID ` I KNOW HE WAS QUITE STAUNCH IN THAT PIECE WITH DAN PARKER THERE ` BUT WHAT PETER DUNNE HAS SAID TODAY TO ME IS THAT WE WILL GO WHERE AUSTRALIA GOES ON THIS. SO IF AUSTRALIA AND NEW SOUTH WALES, WHEN THEY GIVE THAT GREEN LIGHT THROUGH TO 2017, I'LL PICK IT RIGHT NOW, WE WILL FOLLOW AUSTRALIA ON THIS. SO NOT JUST ONE STATE IN AUSTRALIA, THE WHOLE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT? SO WHAT'S HAPPENED IS NEW SOUTH WALES IS GOING AHEAD WITH IT, AND WHAT YOU'VE SEEN IS QUEENSLAND AND ALSO VICTORIA AND NEW SOUTH WALES ALL HEADING IN THE SAME AREA. SO THREE STATES. ALL RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD PREDICTION THERE. THANKS, DUNCAN. OK, AT THIS MOMENT, RIGHT NOW, THOUSANDS OF KIWI KIDS WILL BE SCRATCHING THEIR HEADS ` YOU CAN BET THAT ` AND AFTER THIS STORY, YOU MAY FIND YOURSELF SCRATCHING YOUR HEAD TOO. BECAUSE HEAD LICE, RESEARCH SUGGESTS, ARE BECOMING RESISTANT TO SOME CHEMICAL REMEDIES. YEAH, AS A PARENT, THIS IS A SHOCKER. SO WHAT CAN YOU DO TO GET RID OF THE CREEPY CRAWLY CRITTERS? WELL, ONE WELLINGTON HAIRDRESSER RECKONS SHE HAS THE ANSWER. JENDY HARPER WITH THE LICE WHISPERER. 8.30 AM. HELLO. HI! I'M THE FIRST PERSON THROUGH THE DOOR, NOT AS A CUSTOMER. THOUGH AS A LICE-RIDDEN CHILD ONCE UPON A TIME, IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW THE NITSY PIXIES ` LISA DANIEL'S WELLINGTON SALON, WHERE CHILDREN WITH HEAD LICE ARE WELCOME. I'VE HAD PEOPLE IN TEARS WITH ME. AND I'VE HAD PEOPLE NEARLY KISS MY FEET, YOU KNOW. THIS POOR LITTLE MITE HAS MITES MAKING A HOME IN HER BEAUTIFUL HEAD OF HAIR. HI! HELLO! HOW YOU DOING, HON? THIS WEE CUSTOMER DOESN'T WANT TO BE IDENTIFIED. SUCH IS THE STIGMA OF HAVING NITS, THICK HAIR, THIN HAIR, GIRLS, BOYS, EVEN A GRANDMOTHER. THE INTERNET IS LOADED WITH LICE INFESTATION CLIPS THAT WILL HAVE YOU SCRATCHING. DO YOU KNOW WHAT...? YEAH, I KNOW. EVERYBODY ITCHES, STARTS TO SCRATCH. YOU GET THAT REACTION WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT IT, DON'T YOU? WE GO THROUGH EACH SECTION, RUBBING IT IN. BOASTING A 100% SUCCESS RATE FOR FOUR YEARS, LISA HAS BEEN DEALING TO THE LITTLE CRITTERS AND THEIR EGGS. THERE'S A FEW DEAD EGGS THROUGH THERE. SEE THESE WHITE ONES THROUGH HERE? SHE'S CREATED HER OWN PRODUCT USING ESSENTIAL OILS, COMPETING WITH A RAFT OF COMMERCIAL HEAD LICE REMEDIES ` AND MORE EXTREME MEASURES. SHE'S HEARD OF PARENTS USING KEROSENE AND ANIMAL FLEA REPELLENTS. OH, IT MAKES ME SHUDDER TO THINK WHAT THEY PUT ON THEIR HEADS. SHE CAN SEE HOW PARENTS GET DESPERATE OF A NEVER ENDING NIT NIGHTMARE. WHAT'S BEEN THE LONGEST YOU'VE BEEN IN YOUR HOUSE WITH YOUR CHILDREN WITHOUT NITS? THE LONGEST HAS BEEN SIX MONTHS. SIX MONTHS? YEAH. NIT FREE? EXACTLY. A RECENT AMERICAN STUDY SUGGESTS HEAD LICE ARE BECOMING MORE RESISTANT TO CHEMICAL COMPONENTS, BUT LISA SAYS THAT'S KIND OF IRRELEVANT. FOR HER, IT'S NOT SO MUCH ABOUT THE PRODUCT; IT'S ABOUT THE PROCESS. I THINK THAT WE REALLY JUST HAVE TO DO A BETTER JOB OURSELVES. BY BREAKING THE LIFECYCLE OF EACH AND EVERY LOUSE. JUST ONE EGG LEFT IS ONE EGG TOO MANY. NINE OUT OF 10 CHILDREN THAT KEEP ON REOCCURRING WITH HEAD LICE REINFESTING ON THEMSELVES. THEY AREN'T JUST GOING TO SCHOOL AND CATCHING THEM. HER MOTTO ` SECTION THEN SATURATE. YOU'VE GOT TO GET EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE SCALP, EVERY SINGLE STRAND OF HAIR ` FROM ROOTS TO ENDS. THEN SECTION AGAIN, THEN COMB OUT THE CRITTERS ` DEAD OR BARELY ALIVE. THOSE ARE LIVE EGGS. SO THERE'S ABOUT 20-ODD OF THOSE. AND THE KEY TRICK ` TREAT TWICE SEVEN TO 10 DAYS APART. IF YOU DON'T GET EVERY LAST EGG, WHAT'S LEFT OVER CAN HATCH IN A WEEK. A SINGLE FEMALE LOUSE CAN LAY UP TO EIGHT EGGS A DAY, AND THE ADULTS CAN LIVE FOR A MONTH ON YOUR HEAD ` OR UP TO TWO DAYS OFF IT. LISA SAYS HEAD LICE LOVE KNOTS AND TANGLES. SHE RECOMMENDS MORE SCALP ACTION, MORE BRUSHING AND COMBING THROUGH CONDITIONER IN THE SHOWER. PREVENTION IS BETTER THAN CURE. IT'S ALSO CHEAPER AND A WHOLE LOT LESS ICKIER ALL ROUND. EURGH. THAT'S STILL TO COME FOR YOU. WHAT? I'M GOING TO GET HEAD LICE? NO, NOT YOU BUT, YOU KNOW, YOU MIGHT HAVE BABIES OR SOMETHING. ALL RIGHT, STILL TO COME ON THE PROGRAM, THE DAIRY OWNER WHO TOOK ON A 12-YEAR-OLD WITH A GUN WITH NOTHING MORE THAN A BROOMSTICK. WHAT ON EARTH WAS GOING THROUGH HER HEAD? AND THEN WE GO FOR A PRETTY WILD RIDE THROUGH THE FOREST AT 150 KM/HR IN A SUZUKI SWIFT. SHE'S THE WOMAN WHO TOOK A BROOM HANDLE TO A KID WIELDING A GUN. HOW'S THAT FOR BRAVERY? DUNCAN: ALL RIGHT. WELCOME BACK TO THE SHOW. TONIGHT'S NZ NOW LIVE SHOT IS COMING TO YOU FROM KHARTOUM PL IN DOWNTOWN AUCKLAND. THERE IT IS THERE. WE ARE THERE FOR LATE-NIGHT ART, WHICH IS ONE OF THE MYRIAD OF EVENTS ON DURING ART WEEK AUCKLAND. LOOK AT THE PEOPLE THERE. HEATHER: ARE THEY ALL JUST GETTING TOGETHER TO DRAW? THIS IS LIKE SCHOOL, ISN'T IT? UM, NOW ONE OF THE THINGS` WE'VE JUST DECIDED OUR EXECUTIVE PRODUCER LOVES ART, COS WE'RE ALWAYS BRINGING MORE ART. ONE OF THE ART THINGS THAT WE THINK SHE SHOULD GO TO IS THE EXPLODING BALLOONS EXHIBITION. WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEND HER THERE? BECAUSE I THINK IT'S TORTURE. HEY, THAT'S IMPRESSIVE. LOOK AT THAT. THERE YOU GO. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE DOING. PUBLIC ART. EVEN ONE EXPLODING BALLOON IS SCARY, RIGHT? I DON'T NEED ONE EXPLODING BALLOON, BUT THIS IS ART NOW. PEOPLE BLOWING THEM UP` YOU'RE IN TV. THERE'LL BE A FEW MORE, KIM. I THINK I'M BEING A LITTLE BIT CYNICAL, AREN'T I? SORRY. ALL RIGHT. TO ANOTHER BRAVE WOMAN. WHAT DO YOU DO WHEN A 12-YEAR-OLD POINTS A GUN AT YOUR FACE? PROBABLY NOT A QUESTION THAT MANY OF US WILL HAVE TO ANSWER, BUT IT DID HAPPEN TO KAITAIA DAIRY OWNER DIPIKA PATEL. UH, IT'S WHAT SHE DID NEXT, THOUGH, THAT HAS EVERYONE TALKING. IF YOU HAVEN'T ALREADY SEEN THIS INCREDIBLE FOOTAGE, HAVE A LOOK AT THIS. THIS IS HER DAIRY. YOU CAN SEE THE 12-YEAR-OLD COMING IN WITH THE GUN. HE'S A LITTLE UNSTABLE ON HIS FEET THERE, AND HE STARTS POINTING IT AROUND THE DAIRY. AT THIS POINT, DIPIKA PATEL IS IN THE BACK ROOM WITH HER SONS. THEY'RE YELLING AT THE BOY. YOU CAN'T HEAR THEM, BUT THEY'RE YELLING AT THE BOY TO GET OUT. THEN SHE COMES OUT WITH THE BROOMSTICK SHORTLY. BUT FIRST, BECAUSE HE'S 12, HE TAKES SOME LOLLIES. GETS DISTRACTED BY THE LOLLIES, AND SHORTLY DIPIKA WILL COME OUT WITH THE BROOMSTICK AND TRY TO FEND HIM OFF. AT THE MOMENT, YOU CAN ALSO SEE HIS 15-YEAR-OLD MATE COMING INTO THE DAIRY OVER THERE WITH BALACLAVAS ON. AND THERE'S DIPIKA CHASING THEM OUT WITH THE BROOM, LIKE A PRETTY BRAVE WOMAN. ALL RIGHT. SO, WE'RE JOINED NOW LIVE BY DIPIKA PATEL AND HER SONS. DIPIKA, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW. FIRST UP, CAN I ASK YOU, UM, LOOKING BACK, YOU OBVIOUSLY DID THIS IN THE HEAT OF THE MOMENT. LOOKING BACK, WAS IT THE RIGHT THING TO DO TO GO OUT THERE WITH A BROOM HANDLE WHEN HE HAD A GUN? YEAH. THERE WAS... NAH. NAH, I DON'T THINK SO. WHAT DO YOU THINK? DO YOU THINK IT WAS THE RIGHT THING TO DO? OH, I DUNNO. YOU DON'T KNOW? NOT... NAH, NOT REALLY. NO, PROBABLY NOT. ALTHOUGH IT WASN'T LOADED, WAS IT? DID YOU KNOW THAT, DIPIKA? YOU CAN HEAR YOUR VOICE IS QUITE HOARSE FROM HAVING YELLED AT HIM. YEAH, I LOST MY VOICE AT THE INCIDENT ON SUNDAY NIGHT. THAT'S WHY I LOST MY VOICE. WHAT WERE YOU YELLING AT HIM? I WAS YELLING, 'GO AWAY!' AND I WAS JUST SCREAMING. HE WAS FRIGHTENED, BUT HE DON'T LEAVE THE SHOP. THAT'S WHY I GOT THE BROOM OUT` BROOMSTICK OUT, AND, YEAH. DIPIKA, THIS BROOMSTICK ` DO YOU HAVE IT THERE FOR DEFENCE ALL THE TIME? IS THAT WHAT IT'S FOR? YEAH, I KEEP THE STICK. YEAH. SO HAVE YOU HAD INCIDENTS HAPPEN LIKE THIS TO YOU BEFORE? YEAH, WE HAD PEOPLE A LONG TIME AGO. AND IN THOSE CASES, WHAT DID THEY COME IN WITH? DID THEY HAVE GUNS? YEAH, YEAH. OH, NO. THEIR, LIKE, KNIFE AND A STEEL BAR. YEAH. OH, SO IN THE PAST, SOMEBODY'S COME IN WITH A KNIFE, AND SOMEBODY'S COME IN WITH A POLE OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEP. YEAH, YEAH. NOW` AND THIS TIME WITH THE GUN. RIGHT. IT'S BEEN A COUPLE OF DAYS NOW SINCE THIS YOUNG MAN CAME IN WITH THE GUN. HOW ARE YOU FEELING IN THE DAIRY. ARE YOU FEELING SAFE? OH, NOT... NAH. NOT SAFE. NOT ON THIS STREET, YEAH. NAH, NAH. SO WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO ABOUT THAT? OH, I'M WORKING. THAT'S WHY I CAN'T DO ANYTHING VERY MUCH. OK, WELL, DIPIKA, YOU ARE A VERY BRAVE WOMAN. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW, AND PROBABLY BEST TO KEEP THAT STICK NEARBY. OK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANKS, DIPIKA. THAT'S DIPIKA PATEL AND HER SONS. ALL RIGHT. COMING UP AFTER THE BREAK, LACHLAN GETS TAKEN FOR A SPIN BY KIWI RALLY ACE EMMA GILMOUR AHEAD OF HER TRIP TO RACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST. How long until you're mortgage-free? Shredding years and thousands of dollar off your mortgage starts with a great rate ` just 4.39%. But hurry, this offer is limited. SHE'S THE WOMAN WHO TOOK A BROOM HANDLE TO A KID WIELDING A GUN. HOW'S THAT FOR BRAVERY? ALL RIGHT. NOW, THIS IS A REAL KIWI SUCCESS STORY. WE LIKE THESE ON THIS PROGRAMME. EMMA GILMOUR IS ONE OF NZ'S TOP RALLY DRIVERS. SHE WAS FIFTH IN THIS YEAR'S RALLY OF NZ. DID YOU KNOW THAT? NO. YOU DID THEN. (LAUGHS) I DO NOW. YEAH. UH, SHE HAS NOW BEEN SELECTED TO TAKE PART IN AN EXCLUSIVE INTERNATIONAL TRAINING CAMP. IT'S ALL ABOUT GETTING WOMEN INTO THE SPORT. BUT BEFORE SHE HEADS OFF TO THE OTHER SIDE OF THE WORLD, SHE TOOK LACHLAN FORSYTH FOR A SPIN IN A SUZUKI SWIFT. # LET'S GO! ROCK MUSIC EMMA GILMOUR ` KIWI RALLY ACE PUTTING HER SUZUKI SWIFT THROUGH ITS PACES IN A WAIKATO FORESTRY BLOCK. ROCK MUSIC CONTINUES # WORKING UP A SWEAT. COME ON, COME ON. THIS IS EMMA'S BREAD AND BUTTER ` THE PINE FOREST, DIRT ROADS. BUT NEXT MONTH SHE'LL SWAP ALL THIS` (GROANS) FOR THE DESERTS OF QATAR. ROCK MUSIC EMMA'S ABOUT TO HEAD TO QATAR TO LEARN THE INTRICACIES OF DESERT DRIVING. # I SHAKE IT OFF. I SHAKE IT OFF. WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT DESERTS? NOT MUCH. I DON'T REALLY LIKE GETTING SAND IN MY SHOES WHEN I GO TO THE BEACH. WHAT WE DO HERE ON THE GRAVEL STAGE IS SORT OF` THE LENGTH OF STAGES IS 15KM TO 30KM LONG, AND 30KM IS A LONG STAGE. IN THE DESERT RALLIES, YOU KNOW, IT COULD BE A 300KM STAGE. YES, IT'S PUNISHING FOR CARS AND THE DRIVERS. # BABY, I'M JUST GONNA SHAKE! AND IT'S THE RESULT OF A SEARCH FOR THE WORLD'S TOP FEMALE DRIVERS BY WORLD RALLY AUTHORITIES. IT'S A RARE HONOUR BUT TOTALLY DIFFERENT TO WHAT EMMA'S USED TO. USUALLY YOU WANT YOUR WHEELS FIRMLY PLANTED, UM, SQUARE, BEING FLAT ON THE GROUND, SO, UH, YOU KNOW, DRIVING SIDEWAYS ON DUNES AND UP AND OVER WILL BE QUITE A NEW EXPERIENCE. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO GET A TASTE OF EMMA'S WORLD. I THINK OUR TOP SPEED IN THE ROAD WE'RE USING TODAY IS ABOUT 150, 160. ALL SET? I'M ALL SET. '150 K'S DOWN THIS LITTLE ROAD?' ENGINE REVS WHOO-HOO. # GO! LET IT GO! # CAN'T HOLD ME BACK! # WHOA! OH, GOT A BIT SIDEWAYS. (LAUGHS) 'THIS MAY BE A SUZUKI SWIFT, BUT WITH AN ENORMOUS TURBO FOUR-WHEEL DRIVE 'AND A WHOLE HOST OF OTHER MODIFICATIONS, 'IT BEARS LITTLE RESEMBLANCE TO A ROAD-GOING SWIFT.' THAT'S FANTASTIC. (LAUGHS) WHAT'S IT LIKE WHEN YOU COME OFF THE ROAD? (LAUGHS) YOU DON'T WANNA KNOW. LESS FANTASTIC. 'JUST TO CONFIRM ` THIS FOOTAGE IS NOT BEING SPED UP IN ANY WAY.' OOH. THERE GOES THE STOMACH. ENGINE ROARS YOU GET NO SENSE FROM OUTSIDE THE CAR JUST HOW FAST IT FEELS WHEN YOU'RE INSIDE THIS THING, LITERALLY SLIDING ROUND BLIND CORNERS. I DON'T KNOW HOW EMMA DOES IT, COS I CAN'T EVEN SEE OVER THE DASHBOARD. BUT THAT WAS` THAT WAS PHENOMENAL. THE EVENT STARTS IN NOVEMBER, SO FOR EMMA, THERE WILL BE A FEW MORE CHANCES TO HONE HER SKILLS IN LOCAL CONDITIONS BEFORE SHE REALLY GETS OUT OF HER COMFORT ZONE. TO BE ABLE TO GO LEARN ABOUT RACING IN THE DESERT, IT'S NOT NORMALLY ANYTHING I'D GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO, SO TO GET TO GO AND DO THAT WITH THE BEST IN THE WORLD IS JUST GONNA BE A LIFETIME EXPERIENCE. I WANTED THAT JOB. THAT LOOKED LIKE IT GAVE HIM THE SHIZZLES, AND HE'S USUALLY ON A BIKE` THE SHIZZLES, DUNCAN? THE SHIZZLES? IT'S BETTER THAN THE OTHER WORD THAT MIGHT GET ME IN TROUBLE. (SIGHS) I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THAT IS A WORD, UNLESS YOU ARE SNOOP DOGG. UM, FINALLY TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO LEAVE YOU WITH SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PROUD TO HAVE BEEN PART OF. YOU MAY REMEMBER A FEW WEEKS BACK WE DID A STORY ON AN ARTIST CALLED PAUL WALSH. REMEMBER THAT? HE WAS PAINTING ALL THE UTILITY BOXES AROUND AUCKLAND TO BRIGHTEN UP THE STREET. IT WAS ROUND THE CORNER FROM MY HOUSE. YEAH. WELL, MAYFIELD SCHOOL IN OTARA SAW THE STORY. THEY ASKED HIM TO COME AND SPEAK TO THE KIDS, AND HE DECIDED TO PAINT THEM SOME MURALS. SO WITH DULUX ` GOOD ON YA ` DONATING SOME PAINT, HE SET ABOUT GETTING STARTED ON ABOUT 40 HOURS OF PAINTING, OK? WITH THE AIM OF HAVING IT ALL COMPLETED IN TIME FOR THE SCHOOL'S 50TH JUBILEE, WHICH IS IN 10 DAYS' TIME. YEAH, GOOD LUCK TO HIM. THE BLOCK NZ VILLA WARS IS UP NEXT. THAT'S IT FROM US. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR STORIES WITH US. THAT'S STORY TONIGHT. CHILDREN CHATTER SCHOOL BELL RINGS PANIC! AT THE DISCO'S 'HALLELUJAH' RAPS: # A MOMENT YOU'LL NEVER REMEMBER AND A NIGHT YOU'LL NEVER FORGET. # OHHH! # ALL YOU SINNERS STAND UP. SING HALLELUJAH. # SHOW PRAISE WITH YOUR BODY. STAND UP. SING HALLELUJAH. # AND IF YOU CAN'T STOP SHAKING, LEAN BACK. LET IT MOVE RIGHT THROUGH YA. # SAY YOUR PRAYERS. SAY YOUR PRAYERS. SAY YOUR PRAYERS. # SAY YOUR PRAYERS. SAY YOUR PRAYERS. # IT'S TIME FOR A NEW STORY. RETHINK WHAT YOU KNOW. STORY IS PROUDLY BROUGHT TO YOU BY THE ALL-NEW