Sunday ` brought to you by the Mazda CX-3. Tonight on Sunday ` young, gifted and shooting for the moon,... I'm 21 now, right, so I'm more or less one fifth of the way through. ...very very bright, and in a very big hurry,... What really gets us up every day is really trying to make a change to the philosophy on education. ...and ambitious for our brightest. So what would you say to a kiwi kid watching this right now? History-making Hayden Paddon ` Enjoy the ride and look out the window. Are you going to give me the real thing, or are you gonna drive like a sissy? No, no. Always give it the real thing. ...the real Kiwi on the way to the top. Since I was a kid, I always wanted to be World Rally Champion. Never been shy saying it. And we remember an inspirational NZer. That little guy's got a really exciting future. He just needs some help. That's all it comes down to. Captions were made possible with funding from NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2016 Kia ora. I'm Miriama Kamo. Harvard education ` check. Multi-million dollar company ` check. 21st birthday ` only just. Young Kiwi Jamie Beaton is a revelation, part of the global high-IQ society Mensa. He's a prodigy who's achieved things most of us will only ever dream of. With his partner Sharndre Kushor, Jamie wants to revolutionise the world of education, and with a few billionaire backers from the US, they're well on their way. How do you regard the passing of time? Frankly, a little bit scared. I mean, I'm 21 now, right, so I'm more or less sort of like one fifth of the way through. That` That's terrifying. Jamie! 'Jamie Beaton is in a hurry.' What's lined up for today? 'He thinks fast.' 1 o'clock we've got Healthcare Policy, and then 2.30 we have an Energy Technology class, so, um, it's really all over the show today. 'He talks fast.' You're just 'go, go, go' all the time, aren't you? Yeah, it's a ton of fun. I think I'm only here on campus at Harvard for a few years, so I've gotta make the most of it. 'He lives fast.' Your philosophy on life is what? I guess, make the most of while you're here. I think every second is really important. 'So, today, we're just trying to keep up...' So now you're going off to...? I'm going off to business in China, which is just tucked away over there. '...as this ambitious student sets out to change the world of education.' UPBEAT, BUSY MUSIC Just across the bridge from tough Boston, Massachusetts, is the gracious, grand old town of Cambridge ` a Mecca for gifted students. Behind me is one of the great universities, a nearly 400-year-old Ivy League institution. Harvard's hallowed halls have nurtured some of the worlds most notable ` Roosevelt, Kennedy, Obama, and recently, Facebook's Mark Zuckerberg. Now, from NZ, this can seem like a faraway fairy tale, part of the American dream. But that perception could be about to change. What really gets us up everyday is trying to make a change to the philosophy on education, and we think, you know, there's a huge room to do that. Education is, you know, one of the most important ways that you can change someone's life. Jamie Beaton and co-founder Sharndre Kushor are entrepreneurs. From their base in Boston, these young kiwis say any smart student, from anywhere, can attend universities like Harvard, and they can show you how. We're at the beginning of a very very large journey. So that's very exciting. And, you know, we raised some good amount of financing to help the company really, you know, grow. So you've got investors that you're accountable to. What are their expectations? Uh, grow until space, and then stop there. (CHUCKLES) This is how their company, Crimson Consulting, works ` they match students to tutors, who help develop a path to top universities. The thing about education is, like, the sky` well, space, is the limit, frankly, for how far you can go. And that's where they're aiming. With offices now in Auckland, Australia, and London, the couple say Crimson has 1000 tutors advising 10,000 students. And they have big backers,... Now, there's a lot of volatility in them. ...including renowned US billionaire investor Julian Robertson, for whom Jamie also works as a part-time analyst. Hopefully, we can really impact, like, tons of students all around the world, so I'm really excited to kind of keep giving that some steam. In three short years, these baby-faced 21-year-olds have grown Crimson to where it's now valued by its investors at nearly $90 million. The biggest kind of value that we're trying to add to students is allowing them to see opportunities beyond which are currently visibly available to them, whether it be for mathematics, or whether it be dance and drama, or whether it be for sport. It's expensive, isn't it? So it actually varies enormously. So we have, um, some fantastic group class offerings, which are as cheap as like $12 an hour for families, and then if you are, you know, going towards some of these more involved programmes, that investment can be, you know, in the tens of thousands. So what do you think about NZ's education system? I think, within NZ, there is, like, definitely a really supportive culture, but I think in terms of getting people to see and really understand just how powerful education can be to really transform, you know, your career, your life, your ability to contribute to society, I think that needs to be dialled up quite a few notches. The ambitious Aucklanders have always been high-achievers. She ` head girl of Albany Senior High School. He ` co-dux of King's College. They first met at 15. Then, three years later at a UN Youth Conference at The Hague, they became a couple. I was always very excited and impressed by Sharndre. What did you think of Jamie when you first met him? One of the key characteristics that stood out was how hard-working he was, um, and how` and how high he set his goals, and I was really impressed by that. I'm impressed that you guys use the word 'impressed' about each other, You know, you kind of expect people to say, 'Well, you know, I thought he was a bit of a spunk.' BOTH CHUCKLE I did. I did. You did? > Yeah, so did I. (LAUGHS) Oh, good! > So this is home sweet home. Yeah, absolutely. Very exciting. Oh, so it's not quite the mansion I was expecting. (CHUCKLES) No, no. Gotta make sure` It's very very cosy. Is it deliberate? Yeah, absolutely. I mean, um, our philosophy is that there's no need to spend money on any kind of random frills or anything. As major shareholders in Crimson, their joint worth would be in the tens of millions. But they're cagey about their personal wealth. My lawyers would` would kick our ass if we` if we went through this stuff, but, um,... (CHUCKLES) > ...definitely in terms of the` the company has been really exciting, um, but, uh, I don't wanna go into any details. Are you millionaires? Um,... Yeah, sure. In terms of the calculation on paper, yeah. Do you fly business class? No, unfortunately not. BOTH LAUGH LAUGHS: Oh! > It's` It's such a ridiculous waste of money. Like, you pay,... Yeah, it is a waste of money. > ...I think it's, like, three or four times the cost of a normal fare. Not even premium economy? No. No, we go for the nuts-and-bolts basics. They're a formidably clever couple. Jamie Beaton ` a genius. Um, but, yeah, I think that'd be very very powerful. He applied to 25 universities around the world and says he got into all of them. But do you need to be a genius? So what would you say to a Kiwi kid watching this right now? First of all, I would want them to think about, you know, um, when they go to sleep at night, they think about what they wanna be in the future. What are the most exciting dreams that come to mind? And the next thing I wanna, you know ask is, um, are you willing to work hard? Like they do. Jamie and Sharndre keep a punishing schedule, every second is used ` monitoring business, classes, the sharemarket ` Oh, James sent this through. ...and all this while Jamie attempts the near impossible ` My Bachelor of Arts is in Applied Math, Economics, and my secondary's in Global Health and Health Politics. ...completing a Bachelor's and Master's degree, And then my master's degree is very focused on, um, energy technology. ...doing it in three years, instead of the standard five years. < What do you make of his workload? Uh, I'm amazed by it, frankly. You know, often he's not actually on campus, but he's managing to succeed to such an extent, on such a kind of harder workload than most students ` it just completely baffles me. Daniel Lewis is Jamie's academic advisor at Harvard. He is a truly exceptional Harvard student. I think what's most remarkable is the balance he manages to achieve and how he manages to function at such a high level, you know, consistently, with so many things on his plate. Would you describe him as a prodigy or a genius? I would sometimes describe Jamie as a bit of a phenom. He never ceases to amaze me. < I would use words like remarkable ` and crazy! Yeah, crazy is a word that I would, at some points, be tempted to use to describe Jamie. (LAUGHS) Me, I'm crazy? I don't think it's that crazy. There are a lot of kids that push themselves really hard here. So, um, I guess it's just a function of what you wanna spend your time on. Can I please grab a slice of pepperoni? Yeah, sure. Thank you. Despite the millions, the raw ambition, in many ways, they're just a normal young couple... He's just a really good student. ...who are far from home. Do you get homesick? Absolutely. (CHUCKLES) Yeah, I think` You know, we're both very very close to our families and, you know, we're in touch with them every single day. Um, but sometimes I think it's very easy to kind of miss them a lot and, you know, miss having a hug from Mum and a home-cooked meal from your parents. Yeah, although my mum's cooking isn't so flash. (CHUCKLES) 'Yeah, although my mum's cooking isn't so flash.' BOTH LAUGH Oh, so true, darling! Back in NZ, proud mums Paula Beaton and Patty Govender. It's such an intense lifestyle that they're leading. They're only 21. Do you worry? Um, I don't. I don't. I don't worry. I'm happy that they're happy, and we couldn't wish for any more for our children. Mm. Oh, he's grown-up even since then. (CLICKS TONGUE) The mums tell a story of two confident children, both bright, chatty and focused. Their company's worth millions. Does that frighten you? I think there was a time when I was nervous. In the past, if she lost her pocket money, I'd be able to go to her rescue, you know. (CHUCKLES) But it's a little bit harder now. You know, you get into trouble, it's, like, 'Um, darling, mummy's not going to be that helpful this time.' Oh, there's the president. And the first man. (LAUGHS) Yes. (LAUGHS) Jamie says he's already a fifth of the way through his life. He's always in such a hurry. Where does that come from? He sees almost, not the fragility of life, but that there is a finite time. And he's so` Yeah, he has become really aware of that, but I don't think it's in a disturbing way. I think he's turned it into quite a positive attribute. It's been a long busy day, but it's not the end,... LAUGHTER ...because as Boston winds down, NZ's business day is in full swing. NZ will be firmly on the map. No worries. And Jamie has a meeting in New York. A four-hour train ride lies ahead. The work never stops. Working hard is important, and I think that if you're doing it in an area that you love and it brings you fulfilment, then there's nothing wrong with that. What's the goal for Crimson? We want Crimson to be the company that is leading the way in innovation within education, so until that happens, we're not even close. And Sharndre graduated last week from Auckland University with a degree in public health, and Jamie graduates this Saturday from Harvard with his bachelor's and master's degrees in Applied Mathematics. From next month, they'll be based in New York. Well, later, we pay tribute to the big little guy ` brittle bones campaigner Samuel Gibson ` his latest adventure tragically cut short. But up next ` he grew up in Geraldine with a dream, and he's made sporting history. We're fast and furious with World Rally star Hayden Paddon. Enjoy the ride and look out the window. Are you going to give me the real thing, or are you gonna drive like a sissy? No, no. Always give it the real thing. Welcome back. The boy from Geraldine had a plan since he was a teenager to be the best rally driver in the world, and at 29, no question he's on his way, with the odd hiccup. This weekend, Hayden Paddon and fellow Kiwi John Kennard crashed and burned out of Rally Portugal. Luckily, they were both unharmed. But together, they've reached heights not even the late legend Possum Bourne achieved. Last month winning a World Rally Championship event in Argentina, now they have their sights set on the ultimate prize ` by 2018. Here's Janet McIntyre. ENGINE ROARS EXHILARATING MUSIC 'I am about to go riding with one of the world's fastest rally drivers, 'and it's not glamourous.' It's very snug. 'The usual co-driver, John Kennard, is not reassuring.' That was in the middle of the accident in Finland. (GASPS) Oh my gosh. I've got osteoarthritis, and the calcium ring on the` on my hip, just smashed it to pieces, but no` no injury. It's just really good. I've got about 50% of the movement back in it. (LAUGHS) But don't tell anyone that. You should do it more often (!) Yeah, exactly. Hayden's offered to fix the rest of it for me, but I don't think so. 'This is not a just a thrill ride for me.' Enjoy the ride and, uh, look out the window. Are you going to give me the real thing, or are you gonna drive like a sissy? No, no, always give it the real thing. 'It's to demonstrate Hayden Paddon's extraordinary ability to memorise the road. 'He will recall these 40 furious seconds with me, frame by frame.' Run through what we did. On the start line there is a very small straight, fast second-gear right through some` two narrow posts, straight, 90 left, straight, 90 right, a long sweeping left, flat left, fast right, under the bridge, a long tightening left. But that's easy; that's only 40 seconds. How was it? > It was fantastic. You weren't sick? > (LAUGHS) I wasn't sick, no. I was loving it. I said` At the end, I said, 'Let's go again.' (LAUGHS) > He's ambitious,... Since I was kid, I've always wanted to be World Rally Champion. I've never been shy saying that's what I wanted to do, and that's` Everything I've done in life has, uh, been towards that. ...focused,... You get in the rally car and you put on the helmet, you do go into your world. That's my` my special place, if you like, when I'm in` < Your happy place. My happy place ` inside the rally car. Do you ever have room in your mind for fear? Oh, I don't like heights, so I'm pretty fearful of heights, um... Anything else? Uh, being in the passenger seat of a car. (LAUGHS) < (CHUCKLES) I like` I like to be driving. I like to be in control. So you wouldn't get into the passenger seat of a car I was driving? Only if we were going slowly and I maybe had the handbrake close by so I can stop the car. < (CHUCKLES) Going slow is not generally on his agenda. COMMENTATOR: It's now or never, Hayden. Last month, he and co-driver John Kennard made history ` the first NZers to win a round of the World Rally Championship in Argentina ` beating the current champions. We got to the end, and we said to each other` We didn't even know the result, we didn't know the time, but we said that was the best we could do. COMMENTATOR: Well, the clock says he has done it. But does he know? And the rest of the world knew before we did. (CHUCKLES) Everybody from outside knew, and we were sitting there in the car, not having any information` Probably took about one minute until we actually knew, but everyone else already knew. Looking at the media around the car, trying to get some sort of indication whether we got it, whether it's yes, no, what's going on, and` Until someone finally said 'yes', and, 'All right, now we can celebrate.' Yeah. They are an unusual duo ` John Kennard, almost 20 years older than Hayden, started out as a mentor. We were looking for a looking for a new co-driver, and someone recommended John. So` I think my father actually gave you a call. Yeah. I was a bit shy to make` to do any cold-calling. Just a young-faced 18-year-old then. '100 to finish.' In the beginning, I was probably teaching him things. Nowadays, we both learn things still on every single rally we go to. Who's the boss? Neither of us. No boss. Oh, no, he is. (LAUGHS) REFLECTIVE MUSIC Hayden was driving almost as soon as he could walk. Dad built me a small jeep to use around the back yard at home. I think I was 2 years old, and that powered by a windshield-wiper motor. And then go-kart` The first go-kart was powered by a chainsaw engine, so, uh, Dad was always very good at inventing ideas out of nothing. How much was it for him and how much was it for you? Oh, mainly me. Chris Paddon, a retired engineer, one of his son's greatest supporters, hates being in a rally car with him. I generally avoid it. It's just` just not something I enjoy. Why is that? It scares me. (CHUCKLES) Growing up in Geraldine, Hayden bought his first car ` a mini ` when he was 14, funded by working three jobs after school ` and hustling. This was very daunting, as a 14-year-old, going to businessmen, asking for sponsorship. OK, it was $100, which, to me at the time, seemed like thousands of dollars. But after his parents split, he moved to Timaru, where he was unsettled at school and was bullied. Uh, yeah, yeah. I used to weigh about 120 kilos. So about` Yeah, a lot more than what I do now. When you're a bigger person at school, obviously, it's a very easy thing to the point and laugh at. Yeah, I just simply didn't have enough discipline at the time. What was the effect of that bullying on you? Uh, I think motorsport was my escape. Um, I remember sometimes when you didn't really wanna go to school, I'd hop in the car and go out to some back roads and, uh, get away from it all, really. At 18, his rallying career was almost was almost over before it had begun,... CRASH! ...when he crashed and burned his Dad's prized four-wheel drive Mitsubishi. We never really come from a big, rich, wealthy family, and, of course, you cant insure rally cars that easily, so that car was burnt, and that was $30,000 gone. You thought it was the end of your career. Yes. I remember lying in bed for two days, um, feeling very sorry for myself, because, you know, rallying was my passion. But Timaru businesses got in behind him and got him back on the road. Looking back at it now, without that accident and without that fundraising to help us take the next step up ` cos the new car that we got helped us into the NZ championship ` without all that, we wouldn't be where we are today. Side by side with John Kennard, ever since they won their first national championship nine years' ago. Getting a bit hard to drive now, innit? (CHUCKLES) Well done, boy. (GROANS) No matter what happens from here, you've had a stonking good event. Really really well done. I'm glad those tyres stayed it out. Your notes are bloody good for somebody who's writing notes for the absolute first time. Really really good. Thanks very much. Thank you. He actually builds himself a picture in his head of absolutely exactly everywhere we go, so the notes that I'm reading him nowadays are probably more a prompt to the video that's already going on in his head. READS: Left 30, K right, cut in 40, half three left minus tracks, into quick five left, 50 hook, fast... It's a foreign language. It is a fo` (LAUGHS) I can't speak many foreign languages, but I can certainly speak pace note. John, 57, the oldest co-driver to win a World Rally Championship event, admits he's at the tail end of an international motorsport career that's seen him drive, navigate and in management. ENGINE STARTS These days when he's back home in Blenheim, he's just as happy in a Massey Ferguson, checking his Sav Blanc vines. It's the complete antithesis of what we do inside the rally car, so it's just a wonderful way to relax. But while he's still fit, he's not thinking retirement. I still try and keep right up there, certainly not with somebody who's 29-years-old, (CHUCKLES) but it's a different thing, because I'm not wrestling a car around. I'm strapped into a carbon-fibre seat, um, and as long as I can hold on to my book, at the end of the day, that's what I need to do. When will you give it up? > Um, I dun` Hayden and I have always agreed that if it comes to a time where there's an advantage to him for me not being in the car, over me being there, then I'm quite happy to step aside. So I'm` I hope that Hayden would` would be brave enough to actually say that to me. I'm not keen (CHUCKLES) to step out of the car at the moment, and I certainly don't think Hayden wants me out, so we'll see. Seven right over 80, tight and short five, plus... What's the most important thing in a relationship like this? Oh, just trust, I think. Yeah, each other's trust. Trust in each other's job. That's why I think he's got the short straw, because as a driver, I can make mistakes. I can bounce off banks. I can spin like` you know, I can try and correct things, but as co-driver, you have one chance to call the right note, and if you've got it wrong, then you can't really take it back or correct it so easily. So much can and does go wrong. COMMENTATOR: And over he goes. Just a week after their historic win in Argentina and back in the country for the International Rally of Whangarei, their brand new Hyundai clapped out. Wasn't a day like Argentina anyway. But luckily, not like another day they had in Argentina a year ago. It was a horrendous accident, where the crowd had come right down to the edge of the road, and the police that were marshalling didn't do a very good job of pushing them back. Reminiscent of Group B rallying in the early '80s. It's really difficult in countries where the absolutely passion for the sport` it always has been hard to sort of get people to control their emotions to the point where they don't want to be rushing out to touch cars even. This is a dangerous sport. Possum Bourne, Roger Freeth ` both killed. Does that cross your mind? No. No. I think if you're gonna think about that sort of stuff, it's going put a big barrier between you performing at your optimum or being too much on the safe side, and you just can't afford for things like that to be mentally showing you down. For now ` actually, since he was 15 ` there have really been just three words on Hayden paddon's mind, as his dad Chris has long known. That's to be World Rally champion, yeah. < He wrote all this down? Yeah. < In detail. Yep. < Step by step. Just a plan of what he was gonna do each year. And everything is going to plan, even in a car ` a Hyundai ` considered by some European car fans to be second-tier. At the moment, we have a car that is very very close, but not 100% close, to the competition, We're working on aspects of the car, with brakes and transmission, shock absorbers, all of the time, just to try and get that next little bit of advantage. 'And while John and Hayden are partners,...' Where's your face? Yeah, exactly. (CHUCKLES) '...there is only one lead driver.' Say you are World Champion ` then what? You're gonna be the most wanted man in motorsport, aren't you? Oh, for sure. Um, once you've got one, it's the same as a Rally win, you want more. And he says it will be with the team that gave him his big international break three years ago. We didn't have as good a CV as maybe some other young European drivers, and also, you know, Possum Bourne, who was a hero of mine growing up, he was always very loyal to Subaru, and that was the demeanour of the person and that's what made him who he was, and, you know, some of the lessons I learnt from that is that loyalty is very important, and I want to stay loyal to Hyundai. You're gonna have those big European cars, though, waving their big chequebooks, aren't you? Yeah, but for me, it's not about money. It's never been about money. For me, the enjoyment is actually driving. ENGINE REVS LOUDLY And we wish Hayden and John all the best after that cruel crash in Portugal. The team is going all out to get a car to the next rally in Sardinia. Next ` brittle bones campaigner Samuel Gibson. For months, we've been filming his latest adventure, but all that ended earlier this week for the man whose zest for life was truly off the scale. A tribute to one of the most inspirational people we've met. Is that gonna be the pool over there? Yeah. We're raising two children, and, you know, it's important that I'm an active father. You know, the father I need to be, as well as the father that I want to be. 1 Well, this week, NZ and the brittle bone community lost one of its brightest stars. Samuel Gibson fell from his off-road power chair and sustained a head injury that he would not recover from. Sam was not only an inspiration ` he was an adventurer, inventor, brother, husband and father. This from John Hudson. Six months ago, Sunday started shooting a story about Samuel Gibson's ambition to complete a 300km, five-day ultra-marathon, which would have taken him from Mount Cook to Oamaru. Sam wanted to use his mobility buggy to raise awareness and money for 3-year-old Christchurch boy Ryuki, who, like Sam, has brittle bone disease. But there was another side to Sam, a side that was most important to him ` his family. OK, now, ready? You guys ready? Yeah. December 2015, and the Sunday crew's first day of meeting and filming Samuel and the Gibson family. Mum's leading the way. Don't look at the camera. With Isabella and Rosa riding on board, Sam and wife Jennifer are off to the park. QUIETLY: Don't look at the camera? QUIETLY: OK. The quintessential Kiwi family, with dad Sam at the controls. (CHUCKLES) Way to go. You all right? Sam was born with osteogenesis imperfecta, or brittle bone disease. In his 39 years, he reckons he's had over a hundred bone breaks. The first ` I was born and wasn't breathing, so the midwife, she tipped me upside down and whacked me on` on the bottom, um, to get me breathing. In doing so, broke both of my femurs, A rough start, but he was breathing. Sam grew up in a can-do Kiwi family. It was the attitude that would make Sam grow as a person. You know, the word 'can't' was banned in our house as a kid. < Yeah. (CHUCKLES) < (LAUGHS) My parents always made a big effort to make sure that Samuel was just one of the kids, that he wasn't anything special, so to speak. Um, and I think that just formed my outlook that I was just one of the kids. Being 'one of the kids' led to being 'one of the lads'. Sam and his mates travelled the world. We were crossing from Northern Thailand across the Mekong into Laos, and we met a couple of Canadian girls, and we soon figured out we were heading in the same direction, so we just kind of teamed up. And Jen was one of those girls. We planned to have a couple of days together, but it ended up about two weeks. Well, 13 years. < (CHUCKLES) A life. A life, yeah. Sam and Jen were married in Canada, a true white wedding. But what about children? It was a 50% chance of passing brittle bones to one of our children. < And you weren't prepared to take that risk? No, something we'd talked about a lot and felt quite strongly that, um, we didn't want to pass` pass that gene down. It took eight years to isolate Sam's rogue gene, and one IVF cycle to produce a perfect baby daughter ` Rosa. < And then two years later...? And just over 2 years later, another one. So... Yeah. < Perfect planning. Perfect. Yeah. Being a father to Rosa and Isabella had its own challenges. < You can change nappies with the best of them? (LAUGHS) I can, yeah. No, I don't have the greatest, uh` the longest arms in the world, so i certainly got up close to the action with a lot of things. The chair he helped design is the chair that's now sold throughout the world, giving independence to those like him. I'm 100% independent. 100%. You know, there's no way that that would be the case without that wheelchair. Is that gonna be the pool over there? Yeah. We're raising two children and, you know, it's important that I'm an active father, you know. The father I'm meant to be, as well as the father that I want to be, and that's, you know, having a big part in our children's growing up. < Yeah. SOMBRE MUSIC Samuel died in the pursuit of happiness, training for an October ultra-marathon to raise awareness and funds to for Ryuki. Sam saw Ryuki's plight as his fight. That little guy has got a really exciting future. He just need some help. That's all it comes down to. It's as simple as that. And his parents need a bit of help too, you know. Ryuki can grow up to be a fully independent, integrated, normal young lad, and, you know, that's so important that that's the case. Sam Gibson spent his life fighting not only for his own independence but for other's. He was resilient, kind and above all, he saw himself as one of the luckiest people on Earth. And we were lucky to know him. Sam's campaign to raise brittle bone awareness and money for Ryuki still continues. You can find out more by visiting our Facebook page. Next ` is there a better way of getting through grief? A look ahead to our story on the lessons learnt from the loss of a daughter. So, Abi was glorious and little and blonde. Bubbly, gorgeous, very happy. What do you do when you lose what you love most? Next week on Sunday ` is there a better way of getting through grief? Researcher Lucy Hone thought she had the answers. She even had a degree in resilience psychology. But when tragedy struck, Lucy found she still had a lot to learn. So, Abi was glorious and little and blonde. Bubbly, gorgeous, very happy. What do you do when you lose what you love most? In that moment, our lives stopped, really. Researcher Lucy Hone ` how tragedy forced her to put theory into practise. It was such a colossal loss that I had to find strategies that would help us through it. Lessons from the loss of a daughter. You know, it's everybody's worst fear, isn't it? But has Lucy Hone found a way to overcome grief? I was just astonished that we had this whole body of research. What Abi taught her. Having this kind of screaming voice in my head, just saying, 'Choose life not death. 'Don't lose what you have to what you've lost.' We've got two beautiful, incredible (VOICE BREAKS) teenage boys, EMOTIONALLY: ...and I want to live. Well, that's next week on Sunday. Mastermind is next. That's our show for tonight. Do join us on Facebook and Twitter. And thanks for joining us tonight. Nga mihi nui, hei kona.