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These teenage boys are given a once-in-a-lifetime chance. This school unplugs boys from their devices and sends them to a compulsory bush camp for half of the school year. Will they be better for it?

Miriama Kamo presents Sunday, award-winning investigations into the stories that matter, from a team of the country's most experienced journalists.

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  • Sunday
Date Broadcast
  • Sunday 24 July 2016
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  • 19 : 00
Finish Time
  • 20 : 00
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  • 60:00
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  • TV One
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  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Miriama Kamo presents Sunday, award-winning investigations into the stories that matter, from a team of the country's most experienced journalists.
Episode Description
  • These teenage boys are given a once-in-a-lifetime chance. This school unplugs boys from their devices and sends them to a compulsory bush camp for half of the school year. Will they be better for it?
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  • Chapman Archive
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  • English
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  • English
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Live Broadcast
  • No
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  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
1 Sunday ` brought to you by the Mazda CX3. Tonight on Sunday, boys go bush. See you, bud. See ya, mum. Say goodbye to cell phones, laptops, PlayStations and TVs. Some have been lucky if they've cooked toast before or have made a cup of Milo. Say hello to cold rivers, long runs, cooking, cleaning and consequences. MAN: 40 press-ups! Down you go! Boys like black and white. They don't like grey. And we're gonna reflect on how we relate to others. Growing boys into good men. I was just writing to myself and just asking myself 'Will I be better than I am today?' They both hit number one on the best-sellers list the same day. Gone Girl and Wild made half a billion dollars at the box office. And then all we did was resent each other and try to control each other. That's marriage. Bruna and Reese, a movie-making marriage that's taking on Hollywood. I'm like, 'I don't like how you did this.' And she's like, 'Well, I don't like how you're talking to me!' 'Well I don't like watching you do this!' (SCREAMS) Captions were made possible with funding from NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2016 Kia ora, I'm Miriama Kamo. Teenage boys ` lazy, self-centred, chained to their devices, lacking a work ethic. Common sentiments, but are they fair? Are our teenagers simply products of the comfy lives we give them and the way we parent them? Well, tonight, see what happens when 50 boys are separated from their screens ` private school boys, used to the good life ` sent bush and forced to fend for themselves for five months. Would you send your boy? Haydn Jones joins the fray. BOYS SHOUT 14-year-old boys ` young roosters, humanity's half-pints. Nearly men, but not quite yet. After five months competing with and against each other, it's down to this last race. ALL: Go, Team Red! You want to see the winners, but we're not gonna show you. Instead, watch how these boys celebrate the losers. BOYS SHOUT There's lots to learn. Lesson one ` bring a spare pair of undies. My only dry pair of jockeys! It's, uh, adventure, a challenge in self-discovery and independence That's Cynthia Smith. She prefers to be called Cyn. She and her husband Chris Wynn run this camp for boys. It's called Tihoi. It never fails to amaze me how resilient 14-year-old boys... < Mm. ...can be when they're under the pump. It's west of Lake Taupo, just where cell phone reception runs out. Gidday, team! How are we going? Good, thank you. Everyone well? So who have we got? Chris Penno, thanks. Chris? Hello! How are you going? The camp's owned by Hamilton private school St Paul's Collegiate. Expensive too ` over $30,000 a year for boarders, And Tihoi is compulsory. All year 10 students must spend half their year here. They come in intakes of 50-odd ` 14-year-old boys yet to learn a lot of life's basics. Some have been lucky if they've cooked toast before or made a cup of milo. Can you tell when they arrive? Pretty much. A lot of students have only lived, um, comfortably with their families and haven't had a lot of that challenge and things. See you, bud. See ya, mum. I'm going to miss all the things you do for me soon. (LAUGHS) You sure will. (LAUGHS) It's February, and the school year starts with a goodbye. OK. Have a good time. OK. All right, bub? Bye-bye. Yep. All goods. That's Tania Simpson. So we've got a hot water bottle for winter and, um... OK. A day earlier, we dropped in on her and her son Hawaiki Te Ruki. Writing's like the thing that I would probably do last if I had to do it. Hawaiki is a C-band student, and Tania hopes Tihoi will lift his grades. He will be doing more reading and writing than he usually does. I have a feeling this is gonna be a fun game. Have you been doing this all afternoon? Yeah, pretty much. Hawaiki's worried his PlayStation diet... (GROANS) ...won't help him with the physical stuff. Running every day is probably gonna be the hard one. He will miss his TV and his PlayStation and his phone before he misses his mother, probably. RELAXED MUSIC Day one at Tihoi starts with a tour. You see, these sneaky new boots need some wear. So they hit the water. This is deliberate. That's mean! By leading them into the creek` it's cold` it's` you know, it goes up to their necks sometimes, and, um, it shows them that, as a staff member, for me, I'm not prepared to have them do anything that I wouldn't do myself. Being short, it's pretty deep for me. That's Chris Penno. He's bright, a music lover, and back home, he shares his room with an unnamed goldfish, and that's it for company his age. I'm going from an only child to spending six months in a cabin with seven other boys. (LAUGHS) His luxury item is his sax. It'll be my one link to music and culture. Chris' parents are Jeff and Bronwyn. Jeff's a policeman, Bronwyn a board director. I felt that my education was so appalling in the state system that he was gonna go to a private school. They've been saving eight years for this. Probably when Christopher was about 6 or 7, we had an idea of where he was gonna go and what it was gonna cost us, and what we needed to start putting aside. At Tihoi, they live in houses of nine ` no heat pump or Wi-Fi ` technology is banned anyway ` and they get no say on who they live with. Hello! What are you doin'? Good to see you. Good to see you. Chris is lucky. His mate is here. I was pretty worried. I mean, being in a house for 18 weeks with other kids, I wanted to have a good one. This is the, uh` the Tihoi Bible which has everything they need to know, and I mean everything, like, uh, wash your hands regularly, remember to cut and clean your toenails, shower every day ` all this stuff that you think boys may know, but it might slip their mind. And it also has ` this is my favourite - the procedure for confiscations. No aerosol cans, no extra food, no cell phones, no pocket knives, skateboards ` you name it, it's not allowed. Yeah, so apparently we're not allowed clock radios until week five, so my alarm clock got taken off me. Here, the boys cook their own breakfast and dinner. Flour, sugar, rice bubbles... That's Chef Gee. The milk fridge. It's two per house per day. He gives them wheelbarrows full of food. You can't just go to the fridge and have a snack when you feel like it. There's plenty of food, but it might not be a KitKat and a can of coke. We're gonna reflect on how we relate to others. The boys are asked to stop and think. I want you to come and find a space to lie down. They have to write a letter to themselves ` write down how they feel. This is new for many of them. I was just writing to myself and just asking myself, 'Will I be better than I am today?' Before they came to Tihoi their stimulation may well have been their device or their screen. And then all of a sudden they're, like` stimulation is not in their devices any more. It's actually in doing things and being creative. And just like that, day one is done. Night! MORNING MUSIC Congratulations on getting up early. That was fantastic. Wake up is at six. Half an hour later is what's called morning surprise. So what we're going to do this morning is a stamp box run. There's no surprise, really. Most days they run ` something they'll learn to love and loathe. They have classes in the mornings, in the weekend's too. Can anyone remember why do we need to show a conversion? Yep. Then they hit the outdoors. Sweet. Off we go. One of you can lead. Today's their first tramp ` three days long. For many it will be their first time in the bush,... I don't know why, but I'm already tired. ...first time lighting a fire and first time making lunch, let alone cooking it on a fire. (LAUGHS) Whoo! They're, kinda, still in that stage where they, kinda, ask me for advice rather than asking themselves first. There's a lot packed into each day, and kids these days doing that one day after the other after the other, are not often used to that. So is our education system, you know, sitting in a classroom` does that suit to 14-year-old boys? Largely not, to be honest. Boys are pretty active creatures,... (LAUGHS) but I do find, um, students who are not so adapted to the classroom really strive down here. One week into Tihoi, and the lessons are coming thick and fast. Let's get some sneakers on please. Wetsuit booties are not ideal for cooking in the kitchen. Yeah? So you've got boys doing push-ups just for not wearing shoes. Is that fair? Boys love it. I mean, doing push ups, that's not discipline, that's` You're lucky, you're getting stronger and fitter. (LAUGHS) Your core strength's gonna be so awesome when you leave. Consequences are always consistent and quick. You don't drag it out over weeks and weeks, you know? It's done, we move on. Boys like black and white. They don't like grey. If the discipline is decisive,... This is our first time cooking. ...the cooking is not. Undercooked pasta, that's not very nice. (LAUGHS) Um... Every boy will cook, and their house mates will learn that without wood, there's no fire for cooking or heating. And the boys will eat, because going hungry is the only other option. This is, uh, sausage casserole with noodles, and, um... It's a bit embarrassing, there's a lot of people watching, but, um, not the best, not the worst ` 6/10. BOYS: Ooh! A lot of kids here haven't sat down for meals before they come here, cos, sort of, Dad finishes late, and he comes in and has dinner, and then little sister's got dance, so mum's dropping her off or waiting, and they're all eating at different times. I think it's really important to eat together. But when Chris is left to record a video diary, the truth comes out. The cooks manage to screw up every single meal, and so there's just so much complaining going on. Two weeks in, they're learning the outdoors is awesome. Go, Hawaiki! > But for some, laundry will always remain a mystery. Who's got Hawaiki? Week three. Trust me, it's been a long week. They go home for school holidays and the odd long weekend, otherwise communication is snail mail. If I call your name out, you can come up and open your parcel. Hawaiki! Everything in and out must pass Tihoi customs. Oh! Oh! Is it hidden? Ooh! MINTS RATTLE We'll have to take those, Rodger. Some parents can't help themselves. Oh! Hidden in the shorts! What's hidden in the shorts? Oh, thanks for the lollies, buddy. Look at your laces. Finish your warm up. Start of week nine, so, um, halfway, just about. So just come in over here, and, um, you can sit down on you gluteus maximus! The boys are getting fitter. We know this, because they're tested. The students started off running 2KM, and they're up to 7KM in their training, but you get out of it what you put in. Success here is measured by improvement,... I'm just totally knackered. (LAUGHS) ...which means Blake, a boy not built for running, does not finish alone. BOYS CHEER Good boy! Such a great improvement! Yeah, they all know it's pretty tough for Blake. That kid has shown more determination than I've seen in a long time. Amazing. But some aren't pushing hard enough. Let's go Hawaiki! Go, go, go! Hawaiki's been cruising a little bit with his training. He, um, sort of, puts the gas on, and then` but lack of consistency, so we'll be putting some pressure on and doing some more timed runs. Cyn makes him run again ` a 2KM sprint, straight away. Right now? Yeah. And I'm gonna put the stopwatch on you, and you're gonna go for it. BOY: Let's go, Hawaiki! You've got this, man! In my head, I wanted to yell at the top of my voice, but sometimes you've just gotta suck it up and do it. COUNTRY MUSIC Up next ` alone in the bush for two days. The good times. We're going seafood hunting. Yeah! And bad. We never got to the point where we are now ` kind of, greatly despising each other. It's so dark out here, man. 1 Tihoi ` near the shores of western Lake Taupo. Almost half way through their five month stay, 50 14-year-old boys from an exclusive private school are learning about life fending for themselves. This is what we're cooking tonight. It's more like coming back to prison from parole. Last night the boys arrived back from a short break at home, and Cyn, the centre's co-director, has fires to put out. One boy is being sent straight back home. He admitted getting into trouble while on break in Hamilton. He's been operating a little bit outside the boundaries, regularly in and out, and, um, we can't trust him at the moment. Meanwhile, Chris, an only child, is learning about life minus modern conveniences. I appreciate the amazing inventions of dishwashers and laundry washers. And Hawaiki ` the cruiser ` is becoming a creature of the outdoors. < So feet nice and wide. As a boy that doesn't really like to do fitness or anything, now I'm loving doing whatever I want to. As winter begins, there is new life at Tihoi. PIGLETS SNORT And the parents have turned up for a one-off visit. Good to see you. You to. You got some room for all my gear in your pack? No. Aw! They're here for the parent tramp. Chris, who's the boss on this tramp? Currently the kids. We'll see how that ends up going. The parents are told to ease up. It's their children's time to lead. So let them have the opportunity to lead. Let them show` ask questions of what's on the map. First thing you want to do is you want to find these` these straps at the very back on here. I try and tell the parents that this might be the one chance in your son's life that they'll actually know more about the activity that they're doing than what you do. The tramp will start as soon as they figure out which way to go. So either that way or that way. BOTH LAUGH You're the navigator! These boys have been cooking for themselves and fending their own way, and then sometimes on parent tramp, mum's doing up their laces. (LAUGHS) It's like, 'Mum, you don't need to be doing that. Um, he can` He's been doing that for 15 weeks.' Starting out, the three-hour tramp took almost double. Because the bearing says go that way. Walking through mud, guided by the non-existent moonlight. It's been tiring. The work's been hard, the pack's been heavy, but we're here. And the fire took hours to light, even with a brolly. Oh! You should have put it on the bottom. Life's not about acquiring possessions. It's about doing stuff together, and I think a lot of kids learn that down here. It, kinda, went out. Mid-year, and the boys go bush for two days alone. 44 hours by yourself, um, talking to no one. Making a shelter is their first hurdle. Pretty happy with that. That's the bivvy. That's what I'll be sleeping in. Then, with so much time to think, the mind games start. I've just been thinking about the house a little bit, thinking about things- how things have been going lately. Kind of started to give up. Chris hates that, while he's tried his best, some of his housemates haven't. We'd never really got to the point where we` where we are now, kind of, greatly despising each other. I guess 18 weeks of sharing a room with someone could potentially do that to you. CHRIS WYNN: He's almost like a little bit of a perfectionist. He'd be the first one in his house to get incredibly frustrated if they failed an inspection and almost take that almost personally. This is a part of it. < Get up. I just asked you to take it over there! Learning to live with others, when the going gets tough. CHRIS: So there was one point when there was a large ruckus. I was trying to yell to get people to stop, and they just would not. It's just gone feral, pretty much. That was definitely a low point. It just sucked. (PLAYS REDEMPTIVE TUNE) I'd grab my saxophone and have a blast on that for a few minutes. Music would be one of the elements which I'd say has gotten me through Tihoi. HAWAIKI: This is where I've been, kind of, sleeping for, like, the last few days. Meanwhile, Hawaiki, all alone in the bush, is reflective. Through the whole of Tihoi, there's always been this one quote that I've always said ` 'If you fail to prepare, prepare to fail.' Hawaiki spends his second last day knocking out a 14KM bush run ` something unimaginable five months ago. He's a lot more confident. He's had some big bumps in his road. So he's learnt from those, and in the classroom he's really lifted his game. BOY: Come on Hawaiki! Yeah, I've lost quite a lot of weight. Overall, I've lost 11KG. Well done, bro. So let's be honest, the programme is way out of reach, financially, for most Kiwi families. What can they do? Make sure that your kids are playing sport of some sort,... Let's go, Lachie! Good man! ...and make sure your kids have got friends. BOYS LAUGH Limit their time on their devices. You don't have to spend a lot of money on a big, flashy holiday. There's some brilliant places in the NZ outdoors that cost very little, or nothing, and it's just spending that time out there with your kids. After five months, they return to their parents with new skills. So you can clean the toilet, but when you go home, will you clean the toilet? I will. I` I hope I will. This is on national TV. You'll be held to account for this. (LAUGHS) OK, I will. BOYS PERFORM HAKA So the final challenge isn't just symbolic. Tihoi's armed these kids with a new lease on life, a new confidence ` but it doesn't stop here. BOYS CONCLUDE HAKA Tihoi is not a one-stop shop. What they learn is incredible, but it's definitely only a starting point, and it's` and it's up to the boys and the families to` to not revert back to any bad habits that they might have had. You only get this once in your lifetime, and you've gotta take it. So don't be a boy that sits around every single day and doesn't do anything. Be a boy that gets outside, does anything and everything that he can. If I got to choose to do this again, would I? Hell yeah! This is` This is where it is. OK, Hawaiki signing off. Bye. I love that ` essentially saying, 'Be a boy that you can be proud of.' Since returning to the comforts of home, Chris Penno has cleaned the toilet. He's also washed his clothes, vacuumed and survived two nights at home alone. And right now, he's away on a tramp. Hawaiki, that we just saw, has also gone bush. He spent the school holidays fishing with his mates in Kawhia, no parents allowed. His mum Tania says he's confident, cleaner and more grown-up. Well, next, Bruna Papandrea and Reese Witherspoon ` two strong women making hit movies about strong women. (SCREAMS) We set out to make films that had great roles for women, and to have Gone Girl and Wild all in the same season is extraordinary. I am so much happier now that I'm dead. I'm actually surprised how many people don't read books. (LAUGHS) There's so many people. People don't even read the script. 1 Welcome back. Gone Girl and Wild made half a billion dollars at the box office. Behind this massive success, two women, Reese Witherspoon and Bruna Papandrea. Now, you probably know Reese, but it's her relationship with Bruna that's powering exciting female roles in Hollywood. Here's reporter Jackie Frank. OK! Action, roll! (SCREAMS) When Reese Witherspoon went wild,... SCREAMS ECHO ...she hiked America's scenic West Coast. And there was only one person she wanted by her side for the journey. I had called my agent, and I said, you know, 'I really wanna work with Bruna.' Bruna is Aussie producer Bruna Papandrea, who'd just started her own Hollywood production company. I just decided that it was time to bet on myself. What's the worst thing that could happen? I've always been a bit of a risk-taker. She's such an independent person. People love her. (LAUGHS) It's immediate. You just immediately love her. She's so warm and, um` and she's very caring and loving. As you all know, my wife, Amy Elliot Dunne, disappeared three days ago. That same year, another smash hit. And this time, Reese wasn't the star. She worked with Bruna behind the scenes on the psychological thriller Gone Girl. I am so much happier now that I'm dead ` technically missing, soon to be presumed dead. I'd loved Fatal Attraction and movies like Malice. Old-style thrillers that were female-driven, that we stopped making. Yes, I loved you, and then all we did was resent each other and try to control each other. That's marriage. EXCITING MUSIC The movie-making marriage between Reese and Bruna proved to be a perfect match. Gone Girl and Wild made half a billion dollars at the box office. They were two strong women making hit movies about strong women. We set out to make films that had great roles for women, and to have Gone Girl and Wild all in the same season is extraordinary. We feel very blessed. Yes, totally concur. Like, really complicated, really strong female characters. It's proved to be, you know, an incredible partnership, cos I definitely feel like we bring different things to it. You know, there's so many people who talk about getting movies made, and then there's people who actually do it, and, um, she's what I call a doer. What happens when you disagree? How do you resolve that? (LAUGHS) Well, we fight. We` And we're` we're the type of people that we're both really blunt. I'm from the south. She's from Australia. We don't mix messages. We just go right for each other. I'm like, 'I don't like how you did this!' And she's like, 'Well, I don't like how you're talking to me!' 'Well I don't watching you do this.' (LAUGHS) And` But it's great, because it's completely open, it's completely honest, and then it's done. Yeah. And then, probably, we'll calm down an hour later, and I say, 'I'm sorry I said those things, but I was feeling really mad.' And she is like, 'It's OK, but I really believe`' And so then we` we find resolution after it. I just travel with the posse. < Oh. FUNKY MUSIC Working with an Aussie has widened Reese's circle of friends. She's embraced Hollywood's Aussie posse. When I met Bruna, it's like I got welcomed into the Aussie family. # When the stars make you drool just like a pasta fazool, # That's amore # We're gonna make mini meatballs for the kids. Yes, and big meatballs. Mum, you're doing it by hand. You're not measuring. I never measure. Bruna's home is L.A. Tell me when to stop. Mum, Maria, visits often to help out and cook for the grandkids, Roman and Avalon. She's also whipped up some home cooking for Reese. A lot of people think movie stars as, you know, snobbish, but Reese is a really really sweet girl, so I cooked a few lasagnes, a few chicken schnitzels for her, and I made her a couple of Donna Hay's cheesecakes for her, which I've come to love, and I do it very well. Bruna, you wouldn't get on My Kitchen Rules with those meatballs. They should be all the same size. They look good. Well, I would never imagine that my daughter or any of my children from Elizabeth go to Hollywood. ACTION MUSIC And that's because Hollywood is a long way from here. It's the working-class industrial suburb of Elizabeth on the northern outskirts of Adelaide. Bruna has a brother and sister who are twins. In 1971, Maria was pregnant with another set of twins. Bruna was the first to be delivered. Bruna was born, and she was fine, and then everything stopped, and I was prepared for a C-section, which I never got, and a few hours later, the other one was born, but` I had it christened. I never saw her. And she was taken to the Adelaide Children's Hospital. I'm gonna cry. A`And, uh, she died. I never got to see her. From the beginning, Maria sensed a special strength in Bruna. I always thought that she's got the strength of two people. I do believe that it comes from her twin. Bruna's first experience of movie making came when she was in high school. When I was 13, they made a documentary about the school I was at, and it was` it was called, uh, Pop Movie. CHILDREN SING And I went to a school that, kind of, had` They put on musical productions, and, um` and, of course, I was part of that. (SCOFFS) (SINGS) My former, you know, 'wanting to be an actor' days. (SINGS) # Everybody's always picking on me. # You people have the talent... It was the start of what would become Bruna's brilliant career. Go! (SCREAMS) SPLASH! Meanwhile, on the other side of the world, Reese was getting her first taste of stardom. Have you ever been kissed before? I'm not a little girl. You are too, Dani! You're a little girl, and you don't know what you're doing! Unlike Bruna, Reese has a middle-class upbringing ` her father a surgeon, her mother a college professor. BANG! BANG! BANG! They encouraged her to pursue her acting dreams. (SPITS) Ugh! Thanks for inviting me, girls. This party is super fun. Nice outfit. GIRLS LAUGH Oh, I like your outfit too ` except when I dress up as a frigid bitch, I try not to look so constipated. She was 25 when she starred as Elle Woods in Legally Blonde. (GASPS) 'I think I dropped something on the floor that I need to pick up.' So you bend... and snap. See? Virtually overnight, Reese Witherspoon became a household name and the next big thing in Hollywood. # You're going to Jackson. # CROWD CHEERS # Go comb your hair. # See if I care. # As June Carter in the Johnny Cash biopic Walk the Line, Reese showed her range and talent as an actor. And the Oscar goes to Reese Witherspoon, Walk the Line. AUDIENCE CHEERS Winning the Oscar was meant Reese had a chance to star in the best movies being made in Hollywood. But to her surprise, there were hardly any strong female roles. Never thought I'd be here in my whole life, growing up in Tennessee. I started noticing that the female roles that were coming to me were just` I mean, frankly, terrible. They were so one-note, they were usually the wife or the girlfriend of some famous actor, and it just started to diminish. OK, you can do this. You are a confident woman who can deal with conflict. She went round to the studios and said, 'Well, what scripts are you developing for women?' And almost` there were almost none. But if you knew anything about women or anything about me, you'd know that I'm perfectly capable of choosing my own movies. And so I thought, 'Well, what if I just develop them myself, you know? I know` 'I have over 25 years of being in this business. I know exactly what audiences like. 'I know, um` I know what I wanna be in. I know what my friends, who are other actresses, wanna be in.' So I thought it would be worthwhile to just buy some books. Um, my husband said, 'You read more than anybody, honey. Why don't you just buy some of these books?' I believe you're both voracious readers. Yeah. Although, she's` I mean, I'm pretty voracious. I'd say she's more voracious than me. I'm actually surprised how many people don't read books. (LAUGHS) There's so many people. People don't even read the script. Five years ago, Bruna and Reese met at a party, and their shared love of reading established their first connection. The first book I bought was Wild, and, um, I gave it to Bruna, and I said, 'What do you think about coming to produce with me?' And she read it, and she called me, and she said, 'This is amazing, and I really wanna make this movie.' She's like, 'I'm not sure I wanna be in a production company with you, but I wanna make this movie.' You actually played hard to get. I did play hard to get. She would tell you that I was very hard to get. We, kind of, did a dating thing where she wasn't sure for a little while, and then, um` and then finally she called me, and she said, 'OK, I'll try. I'll try and have a production company with you.' So Bruna and Reese together taking on Hollywood with Hot Books, a new production company, and then for both, some very personal productions. Oh my God. How did you manage that? The two of you pregnant? (SIGHS) Well, I think, you know, pregnant women get a lot of stuff done. There's that sense of you're incubating... (LAUGHS) a human being, but you're also trying to accomplish things, and, in a way, we, sort of, incubated the company and` and brought it to life while we were having kids. 1 BOOM! What the heck is that? MAN: Ready! I'm an actor! I'm a very serious actor! And we're fixing... (LAUGHS) Lately, Hollywood has been in hot pursuit of Bruna and Reese. They have dozens of film and TV projects in the works. What about my husband? He's dead. (SCREAMS) The birth of their film company in 2012 coincided with other, very personal, productions. I think a couple of months after we started the company, we were both pregnant. She's` She was three months ahead of me. But we were both pregnant at the same time. Like, in the first year of the company. It's pretty crazy. Oh my God. How did you manage that? The two of you, pregnant? (SIGHS) Well, I think, you know, pregnant women get a lot of stuff done. There's that sense of you're incubating... (LAUGHS) a human being, but you're also trying to accomplish things, and, in a way, we, sort of, incubated the company and` and brought it to life while we were having kids. Reese has three children, Ava, Deacon and the youngest, Tennessee, who was born during the year they started their company. Around the same time, Bruna gave birth to twins, just like her mum. My children, actually, are named for Australia. Avalon is my daughter's name, named after the beach, and Roman is my son, but Sydney is his middle name, and it's very important to me that they're connected to Australia. I don't think it's a coincidence that in the first three years of my children's lives have been the three most successful careers that I've had. Which is, you know` You don't necessarily think those two things go together, but I` I honestly think I make better decisions because of them. My time feels more valuable to me. # Shine bright like a diamond. # Having children wasn't the only coincidence to happen for Reese and Bruna early in their partnership. Following their instincts, they'd purchased the movie rights to both Wild and Gone Girl before the books hit the shelves. They were right on the money. By the way, they both hit number one on the best-sellers list the same day. The same day? I remember calling Bruna and going, 'They're both big hits!' And she's like, 'I know! I'm so excited!' I'm like, 'No, but you understand what this means?' And she's like, 'What?' And I said, 'Now we're gonna have to make 'em really good movies.' (LAUGHS) I was like, 'We can't just make, like, an OK movie. We have to make really good movies.' And she's like, 'I know.' I'm like, 'That's so much pressure.' She's like, 'We're gonna do it. 'We're gonna do it.' I was like, 'OK.' The fact that they` it happened, kind of, at the same time was, you know, a bit of a whirlwind and` a happy happy whirlwind. # You and I # Were beautiful like diamonds in the sky # Very cool. Well, That's our show for tonight. Do join us on Facebook and Twitter `