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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for Thy humbly acknowledging our need for Thy guidance humbly acknowledging our need for Thy guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for Thy guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for Thy guidance in all things, Thy guidance in all things, and Thy guidance in all things, and laying Thy guidance in all things, and laying aside Thy guidance in all things, and laying aside all Thy guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we beseech and personal interests, we beseech Thee and personal interests, we beseech Thee to and personal interests, we beseech Thee to grant we beseech Thee to grant that we beseech Thee to grant that we we beseech Thee to grant that we may we beseech Thee to grant that we may conduct we beseech Thee to grant that we may conduct the we beseech Thee to grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of Thy of this House and of our country to the glory of Thy holy of this House and of our country to the glory of Thy holy name, to the glory of Thy holy name, the to the glory of Thy holy name, the maintenance to the glory of Thy holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of Thy holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of Thy holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. 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What I can say, though, is the Government is moving for people the Government is moving for people into the Government is moving for people into social the Government is moving for people into social housing the Government is moving for people into social housing more the Government is moving for people into social housing more rapidly into social housing more rapidly than into social housing more rapidly into into social housing more rapidly than we have into social housing more rapidly than we have seen into social housing more rapidly than we have seen for into social housing more rapidly than we have seen for a into social housing more rapidly than we have seen for a long into social housing more rapidly than we have seen for a long period than we have seen for a long period of than we have seen for a long period of time, than we have seen for a long period of time, providing than we have seen for a long period of time, providing nearly than we have seen for a long period of time, providing nearly $2 than we have seen for a long period of time, providing nearly $2 billion of time, providing nearly $2 billion in of time, providing nearly $2 billion in housing of time, providing nearly $2 billion in housing support of time, providing nearly $2 billion in housing support and of time, providing nearly $2 billion in housing support and accommodation in housing support and accommodation supplements, in housing support and accommodation supplements, and in housing support and accommodation supplements, and pleased in housing support and accommodation supplements, and pleased to in housing support and accommodation supplements, and pleased to say supplements, and pleased to say actually supplements, and pleased to say actually on supplements, and pleased to say actually on a supplements, and pleased to say actually on a sort supplements, and pleased to say actually on a sort of supplements, and pleased to say actually on a sort of somewhat actually on a sort of somewhat related actually on a sort of somewhat related issue actually on a sort of somewhat related issue we actually on a sort of somewhat related issue we have actually on a sort of somewhat related issue we have slated actually on a sort of somewhat related issue we have slated nearly related issue we have slated nearly 300,000 related issue we have slated nearly supplements, related issue we have slated nearly 300,000 homes across related issue we have slated nearly 300,000 homes across New related issue we have slated nearly 300,000 homes across New Zealand. related issue we have slated nearly 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek leave 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek leave to 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek leave to table 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek leave to table a 300,000 homes across New Zealand. I seek leave to table a Parliamentary seek leave to table a Parliamentary Library seek leave to table a Parliamentary Library report seek leave to table a Parliamentary Library report showing seek leave to table a Parliamentary Library report showing a seek leave to table a Parliamentary Library report showing a 44% Library report showing a 44% increase Library report showing a 44% increase in Library report showing a 44% increase in the Library report showing a 44% increase in the number Library report showing a 44% increase in the number of Library report showing a 44% increase in the number of homeless increase in the number of homeless families increase in the number of homeless families with increase in the number of homeless families with dependent increase in the number of homeless families with dependent children. families with dependent children. Leave families with dependent children. Leave is families with dependent children. Leave is sought families with dependent children. Leave is sought to families with dependent children. Leave is sought to table families with dependent children. Leave is sought to table that Leave is sought to table that information Leave is sought to table that information from Leave is sought to table that information from the Leave is sought to table that information from the Parliamentary information from the Parliamentary Library. information from the Parliamentary Library. Any information from the Parliamentary Library. Any objection? information from the Parliamentary Library. Any objection? None. information from the Parliamentary Library. Any objection? None. It information from the Parliamentary Library. Any objection? None. It can Library. Any objection? None. It can be Library. Any objection? None. It can be tabled. Library. Any objection? None. It can be tabled. Given Library. Any objection? None. It can be tabled. Given his Library. Any objection? None. It can be tabled. Given his Government Library. Any objection? None. It can be tabled. Given his Government has be tabled. Given his Government has reduced be tabled. Given his Government has reduced the be tabled. Given his Government has reduced the number be tabled. Given his Government has reduced the number of be tabled. Given his Government has reduced the number of state be tabled. Given his Government has reduced the number of state houses reduced the number of state houses available reduced the number of state houses available by reduced the number of state houses available by more reduced the number of state houses available by more than reduced the number of state houses available by more than 2,500, reduced the number of state houses available by more than 2,500, does available by more than 2,500, does he available by more than 2,500, does he take available by more than 2,500, does he take responsibility available by more than 2,500, does he take responsibility for available by more than 2,500, does he take responsibility for the available by more than 2,500, does he take responsibility for the fact he take responsibility for the fact that he take responsibility for the fact that there he take responsibility for the fact that there are he take responsibility for the fact that there are now he take responsibility for the fact that there are now 10,000 he take responsibility for the fact that there are now 10,000 homeless that there are now 10,000 homeless kids that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in New that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in New Zealand? that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in New Zealand? The that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in New Zealand? The member that there are now 10,000 homeless kids in New Zealand? The member is kids in New Zealand? The member is quite kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect on kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect on both kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect on both of kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect on both of the kids in New Zealand? The member is quite incorrect on both of the parts quite incorrect on both of the parts of quite incorrect on both of the parts of his quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. What quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. What does quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. What does he quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. What does he say quite incorrect on both of the parts of his question. 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This is happening on a the eyes, they have no emotion. This is happening on a daily the eyes, they have no emotion. This is happening on a daily basis the eyes, they have no emotion. This is happening on a daily basis at the eyes, they have no emotion. This is happening on a daily basis at my is happening on a daily basis at my school. is happening on a daily basis at my school. I is happening on a daily basis at my school. I dread is happening on a daily basis at my school. I dread families is happening on a daily basis at my school. I dread families telling is happening on a daily basis at my school. I dread families telling me school. I dread families telling me they school. I dread families telling me they have school. I dread families telling me they have no school. I dread families telling me they have no housing. school. I dread families telling me they have no housing. There school. I dread families telling me they have no housing. There is school. I dread families telling me they have no housing. There is just they have no housing. There is just no they have no housing. There is just no hows they have no housing. There is just no hows left. they have no housing. There is just no hows left. I they have no housing. There is just no hows left. I feel they have no housing. There is just no hows left. I feel helpless. they have no housing. There is just no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in my no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in my office no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in my office in no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in my office in tears no hows left. I feel helpless. Mums are in my office in tears because are in my office in tears because they are in my office in tears because they don't are in my office in tears because they don't want are in my office in tears because they don't want to are in my office in tears because they don't want to do. are in my office in tears because they don't want to do. What are in my office in tears because they don't want to do. What the they don't want to do. What the Government they don't want to do. What the Government has they don't want to do. What the Government has been they don't want to do. What the Government has been doing they don't want to do. What the Government has been doing for they don't want to do. What the Government has been doing for the Government has been doing for the most Government has been doing for the most vulnerable Government has been doing for the most vulnerable New Government has been doing for the most vulnerable New Zealanders Government has been doing for the most vulnerable New Zealanders in most vulnerable New Zealanders in that most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area is most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area is making most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area is making sure most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area is making sure that most vulnerable New Zealanders in that area is making sure that they that area is making sure that they get that area is making sure that they get the that area is making sure that they get the support that area is making sure that they get the support that that area is making sure that they get the support that they that area is making sure that they get the support that they need, that area is making sure that they get the support that they need, and get the support that they need, and that get the support that they need, and that includes get the support that they need, and that includes the get the support that they need, and that includes the additional get the support that they need, and that includes the additional $50 that includes the additional $50 million-odd that includes the additional $50 million-odd we that includes the additional $50 million-odd we put that includes the additional $50 million-odd we put into that includes the additional $50 million-odd we put into the that includes the additional $50 million-odd we put into the budget, million-odd we put into the budget, we million-odd we put into the budget, we are million-odd we put into the budget, we are seeing million-odd we put into the budget, we are seeing more million-odd we put into the budget, we are seeing more people million-odd we put into the budget, we are seeing more people moving million-odd we put into the budget, we are seeing more people moving on we are seeing more people moving on to we are seeing more people moving on to social we are seeing more people moving on to social housing, we are seeing more people moving on to social housing, about we are seeing more people moving on to social housing, about 150 we are seeing more people moving on to social housing, about 150 extra we are seeing more people moving on to social housing, about 150 extra a to social housing, about 150 extra a week, to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but of to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but of course to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but of course if to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but of course if the to social housing, about 150 extra a week, but of course if the person week, but of course if the person that week, but of course if the person that the week, but of course if the person that the member week, but of course if the person that the member mentions week, but of course if the person that the member mentions doesn't that the member mentions doesn't have that the member mentions doesn't that that the member mentions doesn't have a house that the member mentions doesn't have a house to that the member mentions doesn't have a house to live that the member mentions doesn't have a house to live in, that the member mentions doesn't have a house to live in, then that the member mentions doesn't have a house to live in, then I have a house to live in, then I suggest have a house to live in, then I suggest that have a house to live in, then I suggest that in have a house to live in, then I suggest that in the have a house to live in, then I suggest that in the first have a house to live in, then I suggest that in the first instance suggest that in the first instance they suggest that in the first instance they go suggest that in the first instance they go to suggest that in the first instance they go to Work suggest that in the first instance they go to Work and suggest that in the first instance they go to Work and Income, suggest that in the first instance they go to Work and Income, and suggest that in the first instance they go to Work and Income, and Work they go to Work and Income, and Work and they go to Work and Income, and Work and Income they go to Work and Income, and Work and Income will they go to Work and Income, and Work and Income will be they go to Work and Income, and Work and Income will be providing they go to Work and Income, and Work and Income will be providing them and Income will be providing them support. and Income will be providing them support. <INTERRUPTION> support. <INTERRUPTION> When support. <INTERRUPTION> When he support. <INTERRUPTION> When he gives support. <INTERRUPTION> When he gives advice support. <INTERRUPTION> When he gives advice to support. <INTERRUPTION> When he gives advice to the support. 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and what does he say to those who have gone to them and are what does he say to those who have gone to them and are still what does he say to those who have gone to them and are still waiting gone to them and are still waiting to gone to them and are still waiting to be gone to them and are still waiting to be placed gone to them and are still waiting to be placed in gone to them and are still waiting to be placed in suitable gone to them and are still waiting to be placed in suitable housing? to be placed in suitable housing? 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Why did he vote last week to protect offshore property protect offshore property speculators protect offshore property speculators while protect offshore property speculators while children protect offshore property speculators while children in protect offshore property speculators while children in this speculators while children in this country speculators while children in this country are speculators while children in this country are sleeping speculators while children in this country are sleeping in speculators while children in this country are sleeping in cars speculators while children in this country are sleeping in cars and country are sleeping in cars and garages? country are sleeping in cars and garages? That country are sleeping in cars and garages? That member country are sleeping in cars and garages? That member is country are sleeping in cars and garages? That member is making country are sleeping in cars and garages? That member is making it garages? 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Yes, we may as well adopt Labour's housing plan. We Yes, we may as well adopt Labour's housing plan. We can Yes, we may as well adopt Labour's housing plan. We can also Yes, we may as well adopt Labour's housing plan. We can also adopt housing plan. We can also adopt labour's housing plan. We can also adopt labour's internal housing plan. We can also adopt labour's internal polling housing plan. We can also adopt labour's internal polling and housing plan. We can also adopt labour's internal polling and by housing plan. 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Question <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. 4. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Justice: Justice: What Justice: What recent Justice: What recent announcements What recent announcements has What recent announcements has the What recent announcements has the Government What recent announcements has the Government made What recent announcements has the Government made regarding has the Government made regarding reform has the Government made regarding reform of has the Government made regarding reform of New has the Government made regarding reform of New Zealand's has the Government made regarding reform of New Zealand's family reform of New Zealand's family violence reform of New Zealand's family violence laws? Today Today the Today the PM Today the PM and Today the PM and I Today the PM and I announced Today the PM and I announced sweeping Today the PM and I announced sweeping reforms Today the PM and I announced sweeping reforms to Today the PM and I announced sweeping reforms to our Today the PM and I announced sweeping reforms to our laws Today the PM and I announced sweeping reforms to our laws that sweeping reforms to our laws that will sweeping reforms to our laws that will build sweeping reforms to our laws that will build a sweeping reforms to our laws that will build a better sweeping reforms to our laws that will build a better system sweeping reforms to our laws that will build a better system for will build a better system for combating will build a better system for combating abuse. will build a better system for combating abuse. There will build a better system for combating abuse. There are will build a better system for combating abuse. There are reforms combating abuse. There are reforms underpin combating abuse. There are reforms underpin bad combating abuse. There are reforms underpin bad astrong combating abuse. There are reforms underpin bad astrong focus combating abuse. There are reforms underpin bad astrong focus on combating abuse. There are reforms underpin bad astrong focus on early underpin bad astrong focus on early intervention underpin bad astrong focus on early intervention to underpin bad astrong focus on early intervention to prevent underpin bad astrong focus on early intervention to prevent repeated intervention to prevent repeated violence, intervention to prevent repeated combating intervention to prevent repeated violence, stemming from intervention to prevent repeated violence, stemming from our intervention to prevent repeated violence, stemming from our review violence, stemming from our review of violence, stemming from our review of the violence, stemming from our review of the Domestic violence, stemming from our review of the Domestic Violence violence, stemming from our review of the Domestic Violence Act. violence, stemming from our review of the Domestic Violence Act. They of the Domestic Violence Act. They will of the Domestic Violence Act. They will help of the Domestic Violence Act. They will help ensure of the Domestic Violence Act. They will help ensure that of the Domestic Violence Act. 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Is healthy family as programme brought over by Australia programme brought over by Australia a programme brought over by Australia a success programme brought over by Australia a success when programme brought over by Australia a success when so programme brought over by Australia a success when so far programme brought over by Australia a success when so far they programme brought over by Australia a success when so far they have a success when so far they have spent a success when so far they have spent $14 a success when so far they have spent $14 million a success when so far they have spent $14 million with a success when so far they have spent $14 million with one a success when so far they have spent $14 million with one provider spent $14 million with one provider collapsing spent $14 million with one provider collapsing and spent $14 million with one provider collapsing and their spent $14 million with one provider collapsing and their main spent $14 million with one provider collapsing and their main project collapsing and their main project appears collapsing and their main project appears to collapsing and their main project appears to be collapsing and their main project appears to be implementing appears to be implementing water-only appears to be implementing water-only policies appears to be implementing water-only policies in appears to be implementing water-only policies in schools, water-only policies in schools, something water-only policies in schools, something that water-only policies in schools, something that could water-only policies in schools, something that could have water-only policies in schools, something that could have been water-only policies in schools, something that could have been done something that could have been done for something that could have been done for nothing something that could have been done for nothing if something that could have been done for nothing if the something that could have been done for nothing if the Government something that could have been done for nothing if the Government had for nothing if the Government had been for nothing if the Government had been prepared for nothing if the Government had been prepared to for nothing if the Government had been prepared to show for nothing if the Government had been prepared to show some for nothing if the Government had been prepared to show some courage been prepared to show some courage and been prepared to show some courage and commitment? been prepared to show some courage and commitment? Mr been prepared to show some courage and commitment? Mr Speaker, been prepared to show some courage and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm been prepared to show some courage and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased the and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased the member and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased the member brought and commitment? Mr Speaker, I'm very pleased the member brought up pleased the member brought up Healthy pleased the member brought up Healthy Families pleased the member brought up Healthy Families and pleased the member brought up Healthy Families and I pleased the member brought up Healthy Families and I invite pleased the member brought up Healthy Families and I invite her pleased the member brought up Healthy Families and I invite her to Healthy Families and I invite her to come Healthy Families and I invite her to come with Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me to Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me to visit Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me to visit any Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me to visit any of Healthy Families and I invite her to come with me to visit any of those come with me to visit any of those ten come with me to visit any of those ten programmes come with me to visit any of those ten programmes in come with me to visit any of those ten programmes in places come with me to visit any of those ten programmes in places like come with me to visit any of those ten programmes in places like West ten programmes in places like West Auckland ten programmes in places like West Auckland where ten programmes in places like West Auckland where they're ten programmes in places like West Auckland where they're trying ten programmes in places like West Auckland where they're trying to ten programmes in places like West Auckland where they're trying to get Auckland where they're trying to get their Auckland where they're trying to get their polling Auckland where they're trying to get their polling rate Auckland where they're trying to get their polling rate above Auckland where they're trying to get their polling rate above 26%. their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill which their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill which used their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill which used to their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill which used to be their polling rate above 26%. Invercargill which used to be a Invercargill which used to be a Labour Invercargill which used to be a Labour stronghold... Invercargill which used to be a Labour stronghold... Order! Invercargill which used to be a Labour stronghold... Order! A Invercargill which used to be a Labour stronghold... Order! A lot Invercargill which used to be a Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good stuff Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good stuff going Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good stuff going on Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good stuff going on there. Labour stronghold... Order! A lot of good stuff going on there. Places good stuff going on there. Places like good stuff going on there. Places like the good stuff going on there. Places like the East good stuff going on there. Places like the East Coast good stuff going on there. Places like the East Coast of good stuff going on there. Places like the East Coast of course, good stuff going on there. 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Order! communities which used to vote Labour. Order! We communities which used to vote Labour. Order! We don't communities which used to vote Labour. Order! We don't need communities which used to vote Labour. Order! We don't need that communities which used to vote Labour. Order! We don't need that as Labour. Order! We don't need that as part Labour. Order! We don't need that as part of Labour. Order! We don't need that as part of the Labour. Order! We don't need that as part of the answer. Labour. Order! We don't need that as part of the answer. Question Labour. Order! We don't need that as part of the answer. Question - part of the answer. Question - Order! part of the answer. Question - Order! Question part of the answer. Question - Order! Question No. part of the answer. Question - Order! Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: Can Health: Can he Health: Can he confirm Health: Can he confirm that Health: Can he confirm that New Health: Can he confirm that New Zealanders Can he confirm that New Zealanders received Can he confirm that New Zealanders received 44 Can he confirm that New Zealanders received 44 million Can he confirm that New Zealanders received 44 million subsidised received 44 million subsidised prescriptions received 44 million subsidised prescriptions in received 44 million subsidised prescriptions in 2015/16, prescriptions in 2015/16, and prescriptions in 2015/16, and that prescriptions in 2015/16, and that this prescriptions in 2015/16, and that this is prescriptions in 2015/16, and that this is over prescriptions in 2015/16, and that this is over 10 prescriptions in 2015/16, and that this is over 10 million and that this is over 10 million more and that this is over 10 million more compared and that this is over 10 million more compared to and that this is over 10 million more compared to eight and that this is over 10 million more compared to eight years and that this is over 10 million more compared to eight years ago and that this is over 10 million more compared to eight years ago - more compared to eight years ago - an more compared to eight years ago - an increase more compared to eight years ago - an increase of more compared to eight years ago - an increase of 30 more compared to eight years ago - an increase of 30 percent? 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This is a widened access to medicines. This is a government widened access to medicines. This is a government that widened access to medicines. This is a government that focused widened access to medicines. This is a government that focused on widened access to medicines. This is a government that focused on the a government that focused on the issues a government that focused on the issues that a government that focused on the issues that matter. a government that focused on the issues that matter. How a government that focused on the issues that matter. How has a government that focused on the issues that matter. How has this issues that matter. How has this significant issues that matter. How has this significant increase issues that matter. How has this significant increase in issues that matter. How has this significant increase in access issues that matter. How has this significant increase in access to significant increase in access to medicine significant increase in access to medicine been significant increase in access to medicine been achieved? significant increase in access to medicine been achieved? And significant increase in access to medicine been achieved? And what medicine been achieved? And what details medicine been achieved? And what details can medicine been achieved? And what details can he medicine been achieved? And what details can he provide medicine been achieved? And what details can he provide on medicine been achieved? And what details can he provide on this details can he provide on this increased details can he provide on this increased access? details can he provide on this increased access? Mr details can he provide on this increased access? Mr Speaker, details can he provide on this increased access? Mr Speaker, over increased access? Mr Speaker, over the increased access? Mr Speaker, over the past increased access? Mr Speaker, over the past eight increased access? Mr Speaker, over the past eight years, increased access? Mr Speaker, over the past eight years, the increased access? 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Over that time, nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised new medicines have been subsidised an new medicines have been subsidised an access new medicines have been subsidised an access has new medicines have been subsidised an access has been new medicines have been subsidised an access has been widened new medicines have been subsidised an access has been widened to new medicines have been subsidised an access has been widened to 245 an access has been widened to 245 medicines an access has been widened to 245 medicines directly an access has been widened to 245 medicines directly benefiting an access has been widened to 245 medicines directly benefiting over medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 New medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 New Zealanders. medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 New Zealanders. New 800,000 New Zealanders. New medicines 800,000 New Zealanders. New medicines which 800,000 New Zealanders. 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But as the Minister of Finance was saying earlier - this is Finance was saying earlier - this is the Finance was saying earlier - this is the first Finance was saying earlier - this is the first Government Finance was saying earlier - this is the first Government to Finance was saying earlier - this is the first Government to raise the first Government to raise benefits the first Government to raise benefits above the first Government to raise benefits above the the first Government to raise benefits above the rate the first Government to raise benefits above the rate of the first Government to raise benefits above the rate of inflation benefits above the rate of inflation in benefits above the rate of inflation in four benefits above the rate of inflation in four decades benefits above the rate of inflation in four decades as benefits above the rate of inflation in four decades as well benefits above the rate of inflation in four decades as well as benefits above the rate of inflation in four decades as well as wages in four decades as well as wages growing in four decades as well as wages growing ahead in four decades as well as wages growing ahead of in four decades as well as wages growing ahead of inflation, in four decades as well as wages growing ahead of inflation, so growing ahead of inflation, so overall growing ahead of inflation, so overall I growing ahead of inflation, so overall I reckon growing ahead of inflation, so overall I reckon it's growing ahead of inflation, so overall I reckon it's a growing ahead of inflation, so overall I reckon it's a pretty growing ahead of inflation, so overall I reckon it's a pretty good overall I reckon it's a pretty good package. overall I reckon it's a pretty good package. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: Is Finance: Is GDP Finance: Is GDP per Finance: Is GDP per capita Finance: Is GDP per capita growth Finance: Is GDP per capita growth what Is GDP per capita growth what matters Is GDP per capita growth what matters most Is GDP per capita growth what matters most for Is GDP per capita growth what matters most for achieving Is GDP per capita growth what matters most for achieving higher matters most for achieving higher material matters most for achieving higher material living matters most for achieving higher material living standards matters most for achieving higher material living standards as matters most for achieving higher material living standards as stated material living standards as stated in material living standards as stated in Budget material living standards as stated in Budget 2016; material living standards as stated in Budget 2016; if material living standards as stated in Budget 2016; if so, material living standards as stated in Budget 2016; if so, why? 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We're and transitional housing. We're working and transitional housing. We're working with and transitional housing. We're working with community and transitional housing. We're working with community group and transitional housing. We're working with community group houses, working with community group houses, some working with community group houses, some of working with community group houses, some of those working with community group houses, some of those around working with community group houses, some of those around the working with community group houses, some of those around the country, some of those around the country, that some of those around the country, that might some of those around the country, that might have some of those around the country, that might have been some of those around the country, that might have been set some of those around the country, that might have been set for some of those around the country, that might have been set for - some of those around the country, that might have been set for - for that might have been set for - for sale. that might have been set for - for sale. So that might have been set for - for sale. So that's that might have been set for - for sale. 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If he wants to if he wants to listen. If he wants to listen! if he wants to listen. If he wants to listen! It's if he wants to listen. If he wants to listen! It's more if he wants to listen. If he wants to listen! It's more than if he wants to listen. If he wants to listen! It's more than doubled. to listen! It's more than doubled. Order! to listen! It's more than doubled. Order! The to listen! It's more than doubled. Order! The answer to listen! It's more than doubled. Order! The answer is to listen! It's more than doubled. Order! The answer is complete. Order! The answer is complete. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. Order! I <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. Order! I want <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. Order! I want both <INTERRUPTION> Order! No. Order! I want both sides Order! No. Order! I want both sides to Order! No. Order! I want both sides to settle Order! No. Order! I want both sides to settle down. Order! No. Order! I want both sides to settle down. Question Order! No. Order! I want both sides to settle down. Question No. Order! No. Order! I want both sides to settle down. Question No. 11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: the Environment: Does the Environment: Does he the Environment: Does he support the Environment: Does he support a the Environment: Does he support a target the Environment: Does he support a target of Does he support a target of protecting Does he support a target of protecting 30 Does he support a target of protecting 30 percent Does he support a target of protecting 30 percent of protecting 30 percent of New protecting 30 percent of New Zealand's protecting 30 percent of New Zealand's marine protecting 30 percent of New Zealand's marine environment, New Zealand's marine environment, including New Zealand's marine environment, including the New Zealand's marine environment, including the Exclusive New Zealand's marine environment, including the Exclusive Economic including the Exclusive Economic Zone; including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if not, including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if not, what including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if not, what target including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if not, what target does including the Exclusive Economic Zone; if not, what target does he Zone; if not, what target does he support? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker, the Government's Mr Speaker, the Government's commitment Mr Speaker, the Government's commitment is Mr Speaker, the Government's commitment is to Mr Speaker, the Government's commitment is to a Mr Speaker, the Government's commitment is to a representative commitment is to a representative network commitment is to a representative network of commitment is to a representative network of marine commitment is to a representative network of marine protected commitment is to a representative network of marine protected areas network of marine protected areas covering network of marine protected areas covering the network of marine protected areas covering the full-range network of marine protected areas covering the full-range of covering the full-range of biodiversity, covering the full-range of biodiversity, from covering the full-range of biodiversity, from New covering the full-range of biodiversity, from New Zealand's biodiversity, from New Zealand's subtropical biodiversity, from New Zealand's network biodiversity, from New Zealand's subtropical to the biodiversity, from New Zealand's subtropical to the sub-Antarctic subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. This subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. This is subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. This is more subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. This is more important subtropical to the sub-Antarctic waters. This is more important than waters. This is more important than achieving waters. This is more important than achieving some waters. This is more important than achieving some arbitrary waters. This is more important than achieving some arbitrary percentage achieving some arbitrary percentage of achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine area, achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine area, although achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine area, although I achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine area, although I do achieving some arbitrary percentage of marine area, although I do know of marine area, although I do know this of marine area, although I do know this Government of marine area, although I do know this Government has, of marine area, although I do know this Government has, with of marine area, although I do know this Government has, with the this Government has, with the inclusion this Government has, with the inclusion of this Government has, with the inclusion of the this Government has, with the inclusion of the Kermadec this Government has, with the inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean sanctuary, inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean sanctuary, increased inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean sanctuary, increased the inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean sanctuary, increased the areas inclusion of the Kermadec Ocean sanctuary, increased the areas of sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from 0.5% sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from 0.5% to sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from 0.5% to 15%. sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On sanctuary, increased the areas of NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose advice NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose advice did NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose advice did the NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose advice did the New NPA from 0.5% to 15%. On whose advice did the New Zealand advice did the New Zealand Government advice did the New Zealand Government delegation advice did the New Zealand Government delegation to advice did the New Zealand Government delegation to the advice did the New Zealand Government delegation to the recent Government delegation to the recent international Government delegation to the recent international union Government delegation to the recent international union for Government delegation to the recent international union for the international union for the conservation international union for the conservation of international union for the conservation of nature international union for the conservation of nature Congress conservation of nature Congress refuse conservation of nature Congress refuse to conservation of nature Congress refuse to support conservation of nature Congress refuse to support a conservation of nature Congress refuse to support a motion conservation of nature Congress refuse to support a motion passed conservation of nature Congress refuse to support a motion passed by refuse to support a motion passed by majority refuse to support a motion passed by majority to refuse to support a motion passed by majority to set refuse to support a motion passed by majority to set aside refuse to support a motion passed by majority to set aside 30% refuse to support a motion passed by majority to set aside 30% of refuse to support a motion passed by majority to set aside 30% of the majority to set aside 30% of the marine majority to set aside 30% of the marine environment? majority to set aside 30% of the marine environment? Mr majority to set aside 30% of the marine environment? Mr Speaker, majority to set aside 30% of the marine environment? Mr Speaker, by marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. Does marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. Does he marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. Does he agree marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. Does he agree with marine environment? Mr Speaker, by Ministers. Does he agree with WWF Ministers. Does he agree with WWF New Ministers. Does he agree with WWF New Zealand Ministers. Does he agree with WWF New Zealand who Ministers. Does he agree with WWF New Zealand who called Ministers. Does he agree with WWF New Zealand who called his New Zealand who called his Government's New Zealand who called his Government's refusal New Zealand who called his Government's refusal to New Zealand who called his Government's refusal to support New Zealand who called his Government's refusal to support the Government's refusal to support the IUC Government's refusal to support the IUC in Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion as Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion as being Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion as being out Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion as being out of Government's refusal to support the IUC in motion as being out of step IUC in motion as being out of step with IUC in motion as being out of step with marine IUC in motion as being out of step with marine science IUC in motion as being out of step with marine science and IUC in motion as being out of step with marine science and with IUC in motion as being out of step with marine science and with the IUC in motion as being out of step with marine science and with the 96% with marine science and with the 96% of with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who want with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who want more with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who want more than with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who want more than a with marine science and with the 96% of Kiwis who want more than a third of Kiwis who want more than a third of of Kiwis who want more than a third of New of Kiwis who want more than a third of New Zealand's of Kiwis who want more than a third of New Zealand's environment of New Zealand's environment protected. of New Zealand's environment protected. 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