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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. Honourable Honourable members, Honourable members, yesterday Honourable members, yesterday Chris Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins raised Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins raised in Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins raised in the Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins raised in the House Honourable members, yesterday Chris Hipkins raised in the House the Hipkins raised in the House the blocking Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of an Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of an email Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of an email that Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of an email that he Hipkins raised in the House the blocking of an email that he wished blocking of an email that he wished to blocking of an email that he wished to send blocking of an email that he wished to send to blocking of an email that he wished to send to a blocking of an email that he wished to send to a journalist. blocking of an email that he wished to send to a journalist. 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It does not otherwise scan or store attachments before sending them. It does not otherwise scan or store the does not otherwise scan or store the content does not otherwise scan or store the content of does not otherwise scan or store the content of emails. does not otherwise scan or store the content of emails. I does not otherwise scan or store the content of emails. I have does not otherwise scan or store the content of emails. I have been does not otherwise scan or store the content of emails. I have been given content of emails. I have been given an content of emails. I have been given an absolutely content of emails. I have been given an absolutely assurance content of emails. I have been given an absolutely assurance that content of emails. 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Members must be free to send and receive information duties. Members must be free to send and receive information as duties. Members must be free to send and receive information as they duties. Members must be free to send and receive information as they see and receive information as they see fit. and receive information as they see fit. No and receive information as they see fit. No other and receive information as they see fit. No other agency and receive information as they see fit. No other agency should and receive information as they see fit. No other agency should be fit. No other agency should be involved fit. No other agency should be involved in fit. No other agency should be involved in determining fit. No other agency should be involved in determining how fit. 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That approach is consistent with the That approach is consistent with the findings That approach is consistent with the findings of That approach is consistent with the findings of the That approach is consistent with the findings of the Privileges That approach is consistent with the findings of the Privileges Committee findings of the Privileges Committee when findings of the Privileges Committee when it findings of the Privileges Committee when it reported findings of the Privileges Committee when it reported on findings of the Privileges Committee when it reported on the findings of the Privileges Committee when it reported on the use findings of the Privileges Committee when it reported on the use of when it reported on the use of intrusive when it reported on the use of intrusive players when it reported on the use of intrusive players into when it reported on the use of intrusive players into the intrusive players into the parliamentary intrusive players into the parliamentary precinct. intrusive players into the parliamentary precinct. 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I have external cyber threats. I have identified external cyber threats. I have identified five external cyber threats. I have identified five possible external cyber threats. I have identified five possible solutions identified five possible solutions to identified five possible solutions to the identified five possible solutions to the conflict identified five possible solutions to the conflict flight identified five possible solutions to the conflict flight between to the conflict flight between information to the conflict flight between information security to the conflict flight between information security and to the conflict flight between information security and the information security and the undoubted information security and the undoubted right information security and the undoubted right of information security and the undoubted right of members information security and the undoubted right of members to undoubted right of members to freelyious undoubted right of members to freelyious information. undoubted right of members to freelyious information. (1) undoubted right of members to freelyious information. (1) the freelyious information. 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Has he subs qunly asked the Minister Supplementary question. Yes. 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I actually looked at the Minister's statement looked at the Minister's statement and looked at the Minister's statement and the looked at the Minister's statement and the minister's looked at the Minister's statement and the minister's statements looked at the Minister's statement and the minister's statements were and the minister's statements were quite and the minister's statements were quite hard-hitting and the minister's statements were quite hard-hitting in and the minister's statements were quite hard-hitting in a and the minister's statements were quite hard-hitting in a generic quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, but quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, but she quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, but she doesn't quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, but she doesn't have quite hard-hitting in a generic sense, but she doesn't have the sense, but she doesn't have the comakt sense, but she doesn't have the comakt information sense, but she doesn't have the comakt information about sense, but she doesn't have the comakt information about this comakt information about this particular comakt information about this particular case. comakt information about this particular case. 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Having decided himself to speak out on behalf of the to speak out on behalf of the government, to speak out on behalf of the government, does to speak out on behalf of the government, does he to speak out on behalf of the government, does he think to speak out on behalf of the government, does he think his government, does he think his comments government, does he think his comments such government, does he think his comments such as government, does he think his comments such as "disappointing" government, does he think his comments such as "disappointing" and comments such as "disappointing" and "unacceptable" comments such as "disappointing" and "unacceptable" are comments such as "disappointing" and "unacceptable" are strong comments such as "disappointing" and "unacceptable" are strong enough "unacceptable" are strong enough when "unacceptable" are strong enough when compared "unacceptable" are strong enough when compared to "unacceptable" are strong enough when compared to the "unacceptable" are strong enough when compared to the Minister "unacceptable" are strong enough when compared to the Minister of when compared to the Minister of Police when compared to the Minister of Police Judith when compared to the Minister of Police Judith Collins when compared to the Minister of Police Judith Collins who when compared to the Minister of Police Judith Collins who said, when compared to the Minister of Police Judith Collins who said, "It Police Judith Collins who said, "It is Police Judith Collins who said, "It is time Police Judith Collins who said, "It is time they Police Judith Collins who said, "It is time they stopped Police Judith Collins who said, "It is time they stopped that Police Judith Collins who said, "It is time they stopped that stupid is time they stopped that stupid behaviour, is time they stopped that stupid behaviour, grew is time they stopped that stupid behaviour, grew up is time they stopped that stupid behaviour, grew up and is time they stopped that stupid behaviour, grew up and apologised." behaviour, grew up and apologised." ? behaviour, grew up and apologised." ? 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Mr Speaker, yes, I think members opposite will know I think members opposite will know I am think members opposite will know I am always think members opposite will know I am always a think members opposite will know I am always a very think members opposite will know I am always a very measured think members opposite will know I am always a very measured person. am always a very measured person. Supplementary am always a very measured person. Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Supplementary Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Supplementary question. The Supplementary question. Supplementary question. The Hon Supplementary question. The Hon Annette Supplementary question. The Hon Annette King. Supplementary question. The Hon Annette King. He Supplementary question. The Hon Annette King. He will Supplementary question. The Hon Annette King. He will give Supplementary question. The Hon Annette King. He will give an Annette King. 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I don't have all of the details, so I can't tell you of the details, so I can't tell you exactly of the details, so I can't tell you exactly the of the details, so I can't tell you exactly the individual of the details, so I can't tell you exactly the individual players exactly the individual players names, exactly the individual players names, but exactly the individual players names, but in exactly the individual players names, but in terms exactly the individual players names, but in terms of exactly the individual players names, but in terms of discussion names, but in terms of discussion with names, but in terms of discussion with the names, but in terms of discussion with the Rugby names, but in terms of discussion with the Rugby Football names, but in terms of discussion with the Rugby Football Union, names, but in terms of discussion with the Rugby Football Union, I with the Rugby Football Union, I think with the Rugby Football Union, I think they with the Rugby Football Union, I think they themselves with the Rugby Football Union, I think they themselves have with the Rugby Football Union, I think they themselves have been think they themselves have been making think they themselves have been making the think they themselves have been making the point, think they themselves have been making the point, let think they themselves have been making the point, let alone. think they themselves have been making the point, let alone. 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I am trying to call a supplementary question at the end supplementary question at the end and supplementary question at the end and I supplementary question at the end and I don't supplementary question at the end and I don't want supplementary question at the end and I don't want a supplementary question at the end and I don't want a continued and I don't want a continued interjection. and I don't want a continued interjection. Jan and I don't want a continued interjection. Jan Logie interjection. Jan Logie supplementary interjection. Jan Logie supplementary question. interjection. Jan Logie supplementary question. My supplementary question. My supplementary supplementary question. My supplementary to supplementary question. My supplementary to the supplementary question. My supplementary to the PM supplementary question. My supplementary to the PM is supplementary question. My supplementary to the PM is how supplementary question. 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The to support women challenging our culture of violence? The Rt to support women challenging our culture of violence? The Rt Hon to support women challenging our culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, there culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, there is culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, there is a culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, there is a range culture of violence? The Rt Hon PM. 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It just depends on who we think has the are outside of Cabinet. It just depends on who we think has the best depends on who we think has the best skills depends on who we think has the best skills actually depends on who we think has the best skills actually to depends on who we think has the best skills actually to conduct depends on who we think has the best skills actually to conduct those, skills actually to conduct those, but, skills actually to conduct those, but, let's skills actually to conduct those, but, let's be skills actually to conduct those, but, let's be honest, skills actually to conduct those, but, let's be honest, that skills actually to conduct those, but, let's be honest, that member but, let's be honest, that member has but, let's be honest, that member has been but, let's be honest, that member has been outside but, let's be honest, that member has been outside of but, let's be honest, that member has been outside of government but, let's be honest, that member has been outside of government for has been outside of government for the has been outside of government for the entire has been outside of government for the entire time has been outside of government for the entire time they has been outside of government for the entire time they have has been outside of government for the entire time they have been has been outside of government for the entire time they have been in the entire time they have been in this the entire time they have been in this Parliament the entire time they have been in this Parliament and the entire time they have been in this Parliament and maybe the entire time they have been in this Parliament and maybe that the entire time they have been in this Parliament and maybe that does this Parliament and maybe that does explain this Parliament and maybe that does explain why this Parliament and maybe that does explain why they this Parliament and maybe that does explain why they have this Parliament and maybe that does explain why they have done this Parliament and maybe that does explain why they have done nothing explain why they have done nothing since explain why they have done nothing since they explain why they have done nothing since they have explain why they have done nothing since they have been explain why they have done nothing since they have been here. explain why they have done nothing since they have been here. 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If you continue to interject and you continue to interject and criticise you continue to interject and criticise my you continue to interject and criticise my rulings you continue to interject and criticise my rulings you you continue to interject and criticise my rulings you will you continue to interject and criticise my rulings you will get criticise my rulings you will get the criticise my rulings you will get the same criticise my rulings you will get the same treatment criticise my rulings you will get the same treatment as criticise my rulings you will get the same treatment as I criticise my rulings you will get the same treatment as I gave criticise my rulings you will get the same treatment as I gave Mr the same treatment as I gave Mr Peters the same treatment as I gave Mr Peters yesterday. the same treatment as I gave Mr Peters yesterday. Supplementary Peters yesterday. Supplementary question, Peters yesterday. Supplementary question, the Peters yesterday. Supplementary question, the Hon Peters yesterday. Supplementary question, the Hon Annette Peters yesterday. Supplementary question, the Hon Annette King. question, the Hon Annette King. Thank question, the Hon Annette King. Thank you, question, the Hon Annette King. Thank you, Mr question, the Hon Annette King. Thank you, Mr Speaker. question, the Hon Annette King. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can question, the Hon Annette King. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee the Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee the Minister Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee the Minister for Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee the Minister for Women Thank you, Mr Speaker. Can he guarantee the Minister for Women was guarantee the Minister for Women was independent guarantee the Minister for Women was independent told guarantee the Minister for Women was independent told to guarantee the Minister for Women was independent told to keep guarantee the Minister for Women was independent told to keep quiet guarantee the Minister for Women was independent told to keep quiet on independent told to keep quiet on the independent told to keep quiet on the Chief independent told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal independent told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by independent told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any independent told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any of independent told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any of his the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- not the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- not told the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- not told to the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- not told to keep the Chief scandal by any of his ministers? -- not told to keep quiet ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any of ministers? -- not told to keep quiet on the Chief scandal by any of his on the Chief scandal by any of his Ministers? on the Chief scandal by any of his Ministers? 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Mr Speaker, today the release figures show that today the release figures show that the today the release figures show that the current today the release figures show that the current account today the release figures show that the current account deficit, today the release figures show that the current account deficit, the the current account deficit, the difference the current account deficit, the difference between the current account deficit, the difference between what the current account deficit, the difference between what we the current account deficit, the difference between what we spend the current account deficit, the difference between what we spend and difference between what we spend and what difference between what we spend and what we difference between what we spend and what we earn difference between what we spend and what we earn overseas difference between what we spend and what we earn overseas fell difference between what we spend and what we earn overseas fell from difference between what we spend and what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 in what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 in the what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 in the year what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 in the year to what we earn overseas fell from 3.1% of GDP to 2.9 in the year to June. of GDP to 2.9 in the year to June. 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Our net e term debt has fallen slightly net e term debt has fallen slightly from net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of GDB net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of GDB to net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of net e term debt has fallen slightly from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. When from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. When the from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. When the Government from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. When the Government took from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. When the Government took office from 57 f 7% of GDB to 56.3% of GDP. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Conservation: How Conservation: How many Conservation: How many full-time Conservation: How many full-time rangers Conservation: How many full-time rangers does Conservation: How many full-time rangers does the How many full-time rangers does the Department How many full-time rangers does the Department of How many full-time rangers does the Department of Conservation How many full-time rangers does the Department of Conservation employ How many full-time rangers does the Department of Conservation employ at Department of Conservation employ at present, Department of Conservation employ at present, and Department of Conservation employ at present, and how Department of Conservation employ at present, and how does Department of Conservation employ at present, and how does this Department of Conservation employ at present, and how does this compare present, and how does this compare with present, and how does this compare with the present, and how does this compare with the number present, and how does this compare with the number in present, and how does this compare with the number in June present, and how does this compare with the number in June 2015? The The Hon The Hon Nicky The Hon Nicky Wagner. The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of the The Hon Nicky Wagner. Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of the Minister Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, as Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, as of Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, as of June Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, as of June 30 Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Conservation, as of June 30 this of Conservation, as of June 30 this year of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had 788 of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had 788 rangers, of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had 788 rangers, of of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had 788 rangers, of a of Conservation, as of June 30 this year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total number year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total number of year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total number of 1928 year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total number of 1928 employees. year Doc had 788 rangers, of a total number of 1928 employees. This number of 1928 employees. This compares number of 1928 employees. This compares with number of 1928 employees. This compares with 833 number of 1928 employees. 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How can the Minister claim that the Dept of Conservation can that the Dept of Conservation can adequately that the Dept of Conservation can adequately protect that the Dept of Conservation can adequately protect the that the Dept of Conservation can adequately protect the spaces that the Dept of Conservation can adequately protect the spaces and adequately protect the spaces and species adequately protect the spaces and species that adequately protect the spaces and species that New adequately protect the spaces and species that New Zealanders adequately protect the spaces and species that New Zealanders love species that New Zealanders love when species that New Zealanders love when it species that New Zealanders love when it employees species that New Zealanders love when it employees only species that New Zealanders love when it employees only one species that New Zealanders love when it employees only one ranger when it employees only one ranger for when it employees only one ranger for every when it employees only one ranger for every 16,380 when it employees only one ranger for every 16,380 rugby when it employees only one ranger for every 16,380 rugby fields when it employees only one ranger for every 16,380 rugby fields worth for every 16,380 rugby fields worth of for every 16,380 rugby fields worth of conservation for every 16,380 rugby fields worth of conservation land? for every 16,380 rugby fields worth of conservation land? 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If there were 833 rangers last year and 788 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers this 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers this year, 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers this year, can 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers this year, can the 833 rangers last year and 788 rangers this year, can the Minister rangers this year, can the Minister confirm rangers this year, can the Minister confirm that rangers this year, can the Minister confirm that at rangers this year, can the Minister confirm that at this rangers this year, can the Minister confirm that at this rate rangers this year, can the Minister confirm that at this rate of confirm that at this rate of decline, confirm that at this rate of decline, by confirm that at this rate of decline, by Christmas confirm that at this rate of decline, by Christmas 2025, confirm that at this rate of decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC rangers decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC decline, decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC rangers will be decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC rangers will be extinct? decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC rangers will be extinct? The decline, by Christmas 2025, DoC rangers will be extinct? The Hon rangers will be extinct? The Hon Nicky rangers will be extinct? The Hon Nicky Wagner. rangers will be extinct? The Hon Nicky Wagner. Mr rangers will be extinct? The Hon Nicky Wagner. Mr Speaker, rangers will be extinct? The Hon Nicky Wagner. Mr Speaker, no. Question Question no. Question no. No. Question no. No. 7, Question no. No. 7, Dr Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Reti. Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Reti. Thank Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, Mr Question no. No. 7, Dr Shane Reti. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Order! Order! Just Order! Just having Order! Just having trouble Order! Just having trouble hearing Order! Just having trouble hearing because Order! Just having trouble hearing because there Order! Just having trouble hearing because there is Order! Just having trouble hearing because there is a Order! Just having trouble hearing because there is a lot Order! Just having trouble hearing because there is a lot of because there is a lot of interjection. because there is a lot of interjection. Could because there is a lot of interjection. Could the because there is a lot of interjection. Could the Minister interjection. Could the Minister please interjection. Could the Minister please start interjection. Could the Minister please start the interjection. Could the Minister please start the question interjection. Could the Minister please start the question again. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: Can Health: Can he Health: Can he confirm Health: Can he confirm that Health: Can he confirm that Pharmac Health: Can he confirm that Pharmac plans Health: Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free up Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free up $25 Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free up $25 million Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free up $25 million for Can he confirm that Pharmac plans to free up $25 million for DHB free up $25 million for DHB frontline free up $25 million for DHB frontline services free up $25 million for DHB frontline services through free up $25 million for DHB frontline services through improved frontline services through improved procurement frontline services through improved procurement of frontline services through improved procurement of medical frontline services through improved procurement of medical devices? Yes, Yes, since Yes, since Pharmac's Yes, since Pharmac's role Yes, since Pharmac's role was Yes, since Pharmac's role was extended Yes, since Pharmac's role was extended to Yes, since Pharmac's role was extended to include Yes, since Pharmac's role was extended to include national extended to include national contracting extended to include national contracting for extended to include national contracting for medical extended to include national contracting for medical services, extended to include national contracting for medical services, 34 contracting for medical services, 34 national contracting for medical services, 34 national contracts contracting for medical services, 34 national contracts have contracting for medical services, 34 national contracts have been contracting for medical services, 34 national contracts have been signed national contracts have been signed covering national contracts have been signed covering around national contracts have been signed covering around 25,000 national contracts have been signed covering around 25,000 different covering around 25,000 different items covering around 25,000 different items from covering around 25,000 different items from bandages covering around 25,000 different items from bandages to covering around 25,000 different items from bandages to cardiac items from bandages to cardiac stents. items from bandages to cardiac stents. These items from bandages to cardiac stents. These contracts items from bandages to cardiac stents. These contracts are items from bandages to cardiac stents. These contracts are worth items from bandages to cardiac stents. These contracts are worth up stents. These contracts are worth up to stents. These contracts are worth up to $72 stents. These contracts are worth up to $72 million stents. These contracts are worth up to $72 million of stents. These contracts are worth up to $72 million of DHB stents. These contracts are worth up to $72 million of DHB expenditure to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year and to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year and will to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year and will drive to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year and will drive the to $72 million of DHB expenditure ver year and will drive the DHBs ver year and will drive the DHBs around ver year and will drive the DHBs around $25 ver year and will drive the DHBs around $25 million ver year and will drive the DHBs around $25 million over ver year and will drive the DHBs around $25 million over the ver year and will drive the DHBs around $25 million over the next around $25 million over the next five around $25 million over the next five years around $25 million over the next five years - around $25 million over the next five years - money around $25 million over the next five years - money that around $25 million over the next five years - money that can around $25 million over the next five years - money that can be five years - money that can be reinvested five years - money that can be reinvested into five years - money that can be reinvested into the five years - money that can be reinvested into the frontline five years - money that can be reinvested into the frontline to reinvested into the frontline to deliver reinvested into the frontline to deliver better reinvested into the frontline to deliver better services reinvested into the frontline to deliver better services for reinvested into the frontline to deliver better services for all reinvested into the frontline to deliver better services for all New deliver better services for all New Zealanders. Zealanders. Supplementary Zealanders. Supplementary question, Zealanders. Supplementary question, Dr Zealanders. Supplementary question, Dr Shane Supplementary question, Dr Shane Reti. Supplementary question, Dr Shane Reti. How Supplementary question, Dr Shane Reti. How is Supplementary question, Dr Shane Reti. How is PHARMAC Supplementary question, Dr Shane Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better access Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better access to Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better access to medicines Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better access to medicines for Reti. How is PHARMAC delivering better access to medicines for New better access to medicines for New Zealanders? better access to medicines for New Zealanders? The better access to medicines for New Zealanders? The Hon better access to medicines for New Zealanders? The Hon Dr better access to medicines for New Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. As Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. As part Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. As part of Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. As part of its Zealanders? The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. As part of its expanded Coleman. As part of its expanded role, Coleman. As part of its expanded role, PHARMAC Coleman. As part of its expanded role, PHARMAC also Coleman. As part of its expanded role, PHARMAC also covers Coleman. As part of its expanded role, PHARMAC also covers management role, PHARMAC also covers management of role, PHARMAC also covers management of medicines role, PHARMAC also covers management of medicines in role, PHARMAC also covers management of medicines in DHB role, PHARMAC also covers management of medicines in DHB hospitals, of medicines in DHB hospitals, management of medicines in DHB hospitals, management of of medicines in DHB hospitals, management of community of medicines in DHB hospitals, management of community medicines, management of community medicines, pharmaceutical management of community medicines, pharmaceutical cancer management of community medicines, pharmaceutical cancer treatments management of community medicines, pharmaceutical cancer treatments and pharmaceutical cancer treatments and the pharmaceutical cancer treatments and the national pharmaceutical cancer treatments and the national immunisation pharmaceutical cancer treatments and the national immunisation schedule. the national immunisation schedule. Under the national immunisation schedule. Under this the national immunisation schedule. Under this Government, the national immunisation schedule. Under this Government, Pharmac's Under this Government, Pharmac's budget Under this Government, Pharmac's budget is Under this Government, Pharmac's budget is a Under this Government, Pharmac's budget is a record Under this Government, Pharmac's budget is a record $850 Under this Government, Pharmac's budget is a record $850 million, budget is a record $850 million, increasing budget is a record $850 million, increasing from budget is a record $850 million, increasing from 2008. budget is a record $850 million, increasing from 2008. As budget is a record $850 million, increasing from 2008. As a budget is a record $850 million, increasing from 2008. As a result, increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly 170 increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly 170 new increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly 170 new medicines increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly 170 new medicines have increasing from 2008. As a result, nearly 170 new medicines have been nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised and nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised and access nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised and access has nearly 170 new medicines have been subsidised and access has been subsidised and access has been broadened subsidised and access has been broadened to subsidised and access has been broadened to 245 subsidised and access has been broadened to 245 medicines subsidised and access has been broadened to 245 medicines directly broadened to 245 medicines directly benefiting broadened to 245 medicines directly benefiting over broadened to 245 medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 broadened to 245 medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 more broadened to 245 medicines directly benefiting over 800,000 more New benefiting over 800,000 more New Zealanders. benefiting over 800,000 more New Zealanders. Question benefiting over 800,000 more New Zealanders. Question no. benefiting over 800,000 more New Zealanders. Question no. 8, benefiting over 800,000 more New Zealanders. Question no. 8, Iain Zealanders. Question no. 8, Iain Lees-Galloway. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Workplace My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and My question is to the Minister for Workplace Relations and Safety: for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he concerned for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he concerned that for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he concerned that 170,000 for Workplace Relations and Safety: Is he concerned that 170,000 people Is he concerned that 170,000 people working Is he concerned that 170,000 people working in Is he concerned that 170,000 people working in New Is he concerned that 170,000 people working in New Zealand Is he concerned that 170,000 people working in New Zealand have Is he concerned that 170,000 people working in New Zealand have no working in New Zealand have no written working in New Zealand have no written employment working in New Zealand have no written employment agreement? The The Hon, The Hon, Michael The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I am. The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I am. This The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I am. This Government The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I am. This Government expects The Hon, Michael Woodhouse? Yes, I am. This Government expects all am. This Government expects all employers am. This Government expects all employers to am. This Government expects all employers to comply am. This Government expects all employers to comply with am. This Government expects all employers to comply with the am. This Government expects all employers to comply with the law am. This Government expects all employers to comply with the law and employers to comply with the law and that's employers to comply with the law and that's why employers to comply with the law and that's why I employers to comply with the law and that's why I have employers to comply with the law and that's why I have asked employers to comply with the law and that's why I have asked the employers to comply with the law and that's why I have asked the Ministry that's why I have asked the Ministry for that's why I have asked the Ministry for Business, that's why I have asked the Ministry for Business, Innovation that's why I have asked the Ministry for Business, Innovation and for Business, Innovation and Employment for Business, Innovation and that's for Business, Innovation and Employment for report for Business, Innovation and Employment for report as for Business, Innovation and Employment for report as to for Business, Innovation and Employment for report as to why Employment for report as to why these Employment for report as to why these people Employment for report as to why these people don't Employment for report as to why these people don't have Employment for report as to why these people don't have employment these people don't have employment agreements these people don't have employment agreements and these people don't have employment agreements and what these people don't have employment agreements and what could these people don't have employment agreements and what could be these people don't have employment agreements and what could be done these people don't have employment agreements and what could be done to agreements and what could be done to improve agreements and what could be done to improve compliance. agreements and what could be done to improve compliance. Order! improve compliance. Order! Supplementary improve compliance. Order! Supplementary question, improve compliance. Order! Supplementary question, Iain Supplementary question, Iain Lees-Galloway. Supplementary question, Iain Lees-Galloway. Is Supplementary question, Iain Lees-Galloway. Is he Supplementary question, Iain Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned Supplementary question, Iain Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the industries Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the industries in Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the industries in which Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the industries in which workers Lees-Galloway. Is he concerned that the industries in which workers are the industries in which workers are least the industries in which workers are least likely the industries in which workers are least likely to the industries in which workers are least likely to have the industries in which workers are least likely to have a the industries in which workers are least likely to have a written least likely to have a written employment least likely to have a written employment agreement least likely to have a written employment agreement - least likely to have a written employment agreement - agriculture, employment agreement - agriculture, forestry, employment agreement - agriculture, forestry, fishing, employment agreement - agriculture, forestry, fishing, construction, forestry, fishing, construction, hospitality forestry, fishing, construction, hospitality and forestry, fishing, construction, hospitality and administration forestry, fishing, construction, hospitality and administration - forestry, fishing, construction, hospitality and administration - are hospitality and administration - are also hospitality and administration - are also the hospitality and administration - are also the industry hospitality and administration - are also the industry that hospitality and administration - are also the industry that is hospitality and administration - are also the industry that is have hospitality and administration - are also the industry that is have the also the industry that is have the highest also the industry that is have the highest numbers also the industry that is have the highest numbers of also the industry that is have the highest numbers of -- also the industry that is have the highest numbers of -- industries highest numbers of -- industries that highest numbers of -- industries that have highest numbers of -- industries that have the highest numbers of -- industries that have the highest highest numbers of -- industries that have the highest numbers highest numbers of -- industries that have the highest numbers of that have the highest numbers of migrant that have the highest numbers of migrant workers. that have the highest numbers of migrant workers. The that have the highest numbers of migrant workers. The fact that have the highest numbers of migrant workers. The fact that that have the highest numbers of migrant workers. The fact that there migrant workers. The fact that there might migrant workers. The fact that there might be migrant workers. The fact that there might be higher migrant workers. The fact that there might be higher proportions migrant workers. The fact that there might be higher proportions of might be higher proportions of migrant might be higher proportions of migrant workers might be higher proportions of migrant workers in might be higher proportions of migrant workers in those might be higher proportions of migrant workers in those industries migrant workers in those industries is migrant workers in those industries is no migrant workers in those industries is no reason migrant workers in those industries is no reason to migrant workers in those industries is no reason to be migrant workers in those industries is no reason to be either migrant workers in those industries is no reason to be either more migrant workers in those industries is no reason to be either more or is no reason to be either more or concerned. is no reason to be either more or concerned. Everybody is no reason to be either more or concerned. Everybody in is no reason to be either more or concerned. Everybody in this is no reason to be either more or concerned. Everybody in this -- is no reason to be either more or concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. Everybody concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. Everybody in concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. Everybody in this concerned. Everybody in this -- less concerned. Everybody in this country concerned. Everybody in this country has concerned. Everybody in this country has the concerned. Everybody in this country has the right concerned. Everybody in this country has the right to concerned. Everybody in this country has the right to an concerned. Everybody in this country has the right to an employment has the right to an employment contract has the right to an employment contract and has the right to an employment contract and that's has the right to an employment contract and that's the has the right to an employment contract and that's the legislation contract and that's the legislation the contract and that's the legislation the government contract and that's the legislation the government sets. contract and that's the legislation the government sets. Is contract and that's the legislation the government sets. Is he contract and that's the legislation the government sets. Is he concerned the government sets. Is he concerned that the government sets. Is he concerned that the the government sets. Is he concerned that the industries the government sets. Is he concerned that the industries with the government sets. Is he concerned that the industries with the the government sets. Is he concerned that the industries with the worst that the industries with the worst health that the industries with the worst health and that the industries with the worst health and safety that the industries with the worst health and safety records that the industries with the worst health and safety records - health and safety records - agriculture, health and safety records - agriculture, forest health and safety records - agriculture, forest and health and safety records - agriculture, forest and fishing health and safety records - agriculture, forest and fishing - agriculture, forest and fishing - are agriculture, forest and fishing - agriculture, agriculture, forest and fishing - are the least agriculture, forest and fishing - are the least likely agriculture, forest and fishing - are the least likely to agriculture, forest and fishing - are the least likely to provide agriculture, forest and fishing - are the least likely to provide a are the least likely to provide a written are the least likely to provide a written employment are the least likely to provide a written employment agreement are the least likely to provide a written employment agreement and are the least likely to provide a written employment agreement and are written employment agreement and are among written employment agreement and are among the written employment agreement and are among the highest written employment agreement and are among the highest users written employment agreement and are among the highest users of written employment agreement and are among the highest users of temporary among the highest users of temporary work among the highest users of temporary work visas among the highest users of temporary work visas to among the highest users of temporary work visas to meet among the highest users of temporary work visas to meet their among the highest users of temporary work visas to meet their needs. among the highest users of temporary work visas to meet their needs. I work visas to meet their needs. I repeat work visas to meet their needs. I repeat the work visas to meet their needs. I repeat the answer work visas to meet their needs. I repeat the answer to work visas to meet their needs. I repeat the answer to the work visas to meet their needs. I repeat the answer to the previous repeat the answer to the previous supplementary repeat the answer to the previous supplementary question, repeat the answer to the previous supplementary question, but repeat the answer to the previous supplementary question, but I repeat the answer to the previous supplementary question, but I would supplementary question, but I would agree supplementary question, but I would supplementary supplementary question, but I would agree to the supplementary question, but I would agree to the extent supplementary question, but I would agree to the extent that supplementary question, but I would agree to the extent that the supplementary question, but I would agree to the extent that the lack supplementary question, but I would agree to the extent that the lack of agree to the extent that the lack of a agree to the extent that the lack of a written agree to the extent that the lack of a written employment agree to the extent that the lack of a written employment agreement agree to the extent that the lack of a written employment agreement is a written employment agreement is one a written employment agreement is one of a written employment agreement is one of the a written employment agreement is one of the leading a written employment agreement is one of the leading indicators a written employment agreement is one of the leading indicators of one of the leading indicators of other one of the leading indicators of other minimum one of the leading indicators of other minimum employment one of the leading indicators of other minimum employment standards other minimum employment standards not other minimum employment standards a other minimum employment standards not being met, other minimum employment standards not being met, which other minimum employment standards not being met, which was other minimum employment standards not being met, which was why other minimum employment standards not being met, which was why last not being met, which was why last year not being met, which was why last year the not being met, which was why last year the Government not being met, which was why last year the Government passed not being met, which was why last year the Government passed law not being met, which was why last year the Government passed law to year the Government passed law to increase year the Government passed law to increase the year the Government passed law to increase the expectations year the Government passed law to increase the expectations on increase the expectations on employers increase the expectations on employers for increase the expectations on employers for documentation increase the expectations on employers for documentation and increase the expectations on employers for documentation and the employers for documentation and the consequences employers for documentation and the consequences of employers for documentation and the consequences of not employers for documentation and the consequences of not having employers for documentation and the consequences of not having it. employers for documentation and the consequences of not having it. Why consequences of not having it. Why is consequences of not having it. Why is the consequences of not having it. Why is the Government consequences of not having it. Why is the Government giving consequences of not having it. Why is the Government giving rogue is the Government giving rogue employers is the Government giving rogue employers who is the Government giving rogue employers who pay is the Government giving rogue employers who pay low is the Government giving rogue employers who pay low wages, is the Government giving rogue employers who pay low wages, fail is the Government giving rogue employers who pay low wages, fail to employers who pay low wages, fail to fulfil employers who pay low wages, fail to fulfil their employers who pay low wages, fail to fulfil their most employers who pay low wages, fail to fulfil their most basic employers who pay low wages, fail to fulfil their most basic employment fulfil their most basic employment duties fulfil their most basic employment duties and fulfil their most basic employment duties and fail fulfil their most basic employment duties and fail to fulfil their most basic employment duties and fail to provide fulfil their most basic employment duties and fail to provide a fulfil their most basic employment duties and fail to provide a safe duties and fail to provide a safe workplace, duties and fail to provide a safe workplace, the duties and fail to provide a safe workplace, the option duties and fail to provide a safe workplace, the option of duties and fail to provide a safe workplace, the option of exploiting workplace, the option of exploiting migrant workplace, the option of exploiting migrant workers workplace, the option of exploiting migrant workers rather workplace, the option of exploiting migrant workers rather than workplace, the option of exploiting migrant workers rather than cleaning migrant workers rather than cleaning up migrant workers rather than cleaning migrant migrant workers rather than cleaning up their act. migrant workers rather than cleaning up their act. That's migrant workers rather than cleaning up their act. That's probably migrant workers rather than cleaning up their act. That's probably a up their act. That's probably a question up their act. That's probably a question best up their act. That's probably a question best levelled up their act. That's probably a question best levelled at up their act. That's probably a question best levelled at the question best levelled at the Ministry question best levelled at the Ministry for question best levelled at the Ministry for Immigration question best levelled at the Ministry for Immigration but question best levelled at the Ministry for Immigration but I question best levelled at the Ministry for Immigration but I am Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he were Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he were to Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he were to answer Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he were to answer it Ministry for Immigration but I am sure, if he were to answer it that, sure, if he were to answer it that, that sure, if he were to answer it that, that that sure, if he were to answer it that, that that is sure, if he were to answer it that, that that is the sure, if he were to answer it that, that that is the expectation that that is the expectation levelled that that is the expectation levelled at that that is the expectation levelled at the that that is the expectation levelled at the Immigration levelled at the Immigration Compliance levelled at the Immigration that levelled at the Immigration Compliance Team. Access levelled at the Immigration Compliance Team. Access to levelled at the Immigration Compliance Team. Access to the Compliance Team. Access to the international Compliance Team. Access to the international labour Compliance Team. Access to the international labour market Compliance Team. Access to the international labour market is Compliance Team. Access to the international labour market is a international labour market is a privilege, international labour market is a privilege, not international labour market is a privilege, not a international labour market is a privilege, not a right, international labour market is a privilege, not a right, and international labour market is a privilege, not a right, and it international labour market is a privilege, not a right, and it is privilege, not a right, and it is one privilege, not a right, and it is one that privilege, not a right, and it is one that can privilege, not a right, and it is one that can be privilege, not a right, and it is one that can be lost. privilege, not a right, and it is one that can be lost. Shouldn't privilege, not a right, and it is one that can be lost. Shouldn't he one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus on one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus on getting one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus on getting those one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus on getting those employers one that can be lost. Shouldn't he focus on getting those employers to focus on getting those employers to sort focus on getting those employers to sort out focus on getting those employers to sort out their focus on getting those employers to sort out their employment focus on getting those employers to sort out their employment practices sort out their employment practices before sort out their employment practices before claiming sort out their employment practices before claiming that sort out their employment practices before claiming that young sort out their employment practices before claiming that young Kiwis sort out their employment practices before claiming that young Kiwis are before claiming that young Kiwis are all before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy and before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy and on before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy and on drugs? before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy and on drugs? The before claiming that young Kiwis are all layzy and on drugs? The Hon all layzy and on drugs? The Hon Michael all layzy and on drugs? The Hon Michael Woodhouse. all layzy and on drugs? The Hon Michael Woodhouse. Mr all layzy and on drugs? The Hon Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, all layzy and on drugs? The Hon Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I Michael Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject the second Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject the second part Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject the second part of Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject the second part of that. Michael Woodhouse. Mr Speaker, I reject the second part of that. No reject the second part of that. No member reject the second part of that. No member of reject the second part of that. No member of this reject the second part of that. No member of this Government reject the second part of that. No member of this Government has, reject the second part of that. No member of this Government has, and reject the second part of that. No member of this Government has, and I member of this Government has, and I quote member of this Government has, and I quote the member of this Government has, and I quote the member member of this Government has, and I quote the member in member of this Government has, and I quote the member in his member of this Government has, and I quote the member in his question, quote the member in his question, said quote the member in his question, said that quote the member in his question, said that 'all quote the member in his question, said that 'all Kiwis quote the member in his question, said that 'all Kiwis are quote the member in his question, said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What we said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What we have said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What we have said said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What we have said is said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. What we have said is there said that 'all Kiwis are layzy'. 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And have lower emissions and that will help meet our target. And that help meet our target. And that concludes help meet our target. And that concludes Oral help meet our target. And that concludes Oral Questions. help meet our target. And that concludes Oral Questions. Would help meet our target. And that concludes Oral Questions. Would some concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable member concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable member care concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable member care to concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable member care to move concludes Oral Questions. Would some honourable member care to move that honourable member care to move that the honourable member care to move that the House honourable member care to move that the House take honourable member care to move that the House take note honourable member care to move that the House take note of honourable member care to move that the House take note of hon honourable member care to move that the House take note of hon racial the House take note of hon racial business. the House take note of hon racial business. Amy the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. I the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. I so the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. I so move. the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. I so move. I the House take note of hon racial business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously proud business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously proud to business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously proud to be business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously proud to be part business. Amy Adams. I so move. I am tremendously proud to be part of business. Amy Adams. I so move. 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I am not talking about launching a the hard issues. I am not talking about launching a report the hard issues. I am not talking about launching a report or the hard issues. I am not talking about launching a report or a the hard issues. I am not talking about launching a report or a study about launching a report or a study of about launching a report or a study of an about launching a report or a study of an inquiry. about launching a report or a study of an inquiry. Actually about launching a report or a study of an inquiry. Actually getting about launching a report or a study of an inquiry. Actually getting in of an inquiry. Actually getting in and of an inquiry. Actually getting in and doing of an inquiry. Actually getting in and doing something. of an inquiry. Actually getting in and doing something. Even of an inquiry. Actually getting in and doing something. Even if of an inquiry. Actually getting in and doing something. Even if it of an inquiry. 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We want have it all fixed by the next election. We want to have it all fixed by the next election. We want to see have it all fixed by the next election. We want to see the election. We want to see the vulnerable election. We want to see the vulnerable New election. We want to see the vulnerable New Zealanders election. We want to see the vulnerable New Zealanders assisted vulnerable New Zealanders assisted and, vulnerable New Zealanders assisted and, Mr vulnerable New Zealanders assisted and, Mr Speaker, vulnerable New Zealanders assisted and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, vulnerable New Zealanders assisted and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no better and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no better example and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no better example of and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no better example of that and, Mr Speaker, yesterday, there was no better example of that when was no better example of that when the was no better example of that when the PM was no better example of that when the PM gave was no better example of that when the PM gave I was no better example of that when the PM gave I think was no better example of that when the PM gave I think one was no better example of that when the PM gave I think one of was no better example of that when the PM gave I think one of the was no better example of that when the PM gave I think one of the best the PM gave I think one of the best speeches the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I have the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I have heard the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I have heard him the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I have heard him give. the PM gave I think one of the best speeches I have heard him give. 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Mr Speaker, we have made it very clear and the PM made made it very clear and the PM made it made it very clear and the PM made it very made it very clear and the PM made it very clear made it very clear and the PM made it very clear yesterday made it very clear and the PM made it very clear yesterday that made it very clear and the PM made it very clear yesterday that we it very clear yesterday that we where it very clear yesterday that we where victims it very clear yesterday that we where victims are it very clear yesterday that we where victims are not it very clear yesterday that we where victims are not in it very clear yesterday that we where victims are not in a it very clear yesterday that we where victims are not in a position where victims are not in a position to where victims are not in a position to stand where victims are not in a position to stand up where victims are not in a position to stand up for where victims are not in a position to stand up for themselves, where victims are not in a position to stand up for themselves, we where victims are not in a position to stand up for themselves, we will to stand up for themselves, we will be to stand up for themselves, we will be there to stand up for themselves, we will be there to to stand up for themselves, we will be there to support to stand up for themselves, we will be there to support them to stand up for themselves, we will be there to support them to to stand up for themselves, we will be there to support them to the to stand up for themselves, we will be there to support them to the very be there to support them to the very best be there to support them to the very best of be there to support them to the very best of our be there to support them to the very best of our ability. be there to support them to the very best of our ability. As be there to support them to the very best of our ability. As he be there to support them to the very best of our ability. As he said, best of our ability. As he said, just best of our ability. As he said, just as best of our ability. As he said, just as the best of our ability. As he said, just as the victim best of our ability. As he said, just as the victim - best of our ability. As he said, just as the victim - as best of our ability. As he said, just as the victim - as the best of our ability. As he said, just as the victim - as the impacts just as the victim - as the impacts of just as the victim - as the impacts of family just as the victim - as the impacts of family violence just as the victim - as the impacts of family violence are just as the victim - as the impacts of family violence are widely just as the victim - as the impacts of family violence are widely felt, of family violence are widely felt, the of family violence are widely felt, the responsibility of family violence are widely felt, the responsibility for of family violence are widely felt, the responsibility for dealing of family violence are widely felt, the responsibility for dealing with the responsibility for dealing with it the responsibility for dealing with it is the responsibility for dealing with it is widely the responsibility for dealing with it is widely shared. the responsibility for dealing with it is widely shared. The the responsibility for dealing with it is widely shared. The government it is widely shared. The government has it is widely shared. The government has a it is widely shared. The government has a considerable it is widely shared. The government has a considerable role it is widely shared. The government has a considerable role to it is widely shared. The government has a considerable role to play it is widely shared. The government has a considerable role to play and has a considerable role to play and we has a considerable role to play and we acknowledge