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So with a surge in population and New a surge in population and New Zealanders a surge in population and New Zealanders staying a surge in population and New Zealanders staying home a surge in population and New Zealanders staying home rather a surge in population and New Zealanders staying home rather than Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, it Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, it is Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, it is not Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, it is not surprising Zealanders staying home rather than leaving, it is not surprising per leaving, it is not surprising per head leaving, it is not surprising per head income leaving, it is not surprising per head income growth leaving, it is not surprising per head income growth is leaving, it is not surprising per head income growth is softer, leaving, it is not surprising per head income growth is softer, but leaving, it is not surprising per head income growth is softer, but as head income growth is softer, but as immigration head income growth is softer, but as immigration turns head income growth is softer, but as immigration turns down head income growth is softer, but as immigration turns down it head income growth is softer, but as immigration turns down it is head income growth is softer, but as immigration turns down it is quite immigration turns down it is quite likely immigration turns down it is quite likely that immigration turns down it is quite likely that that immigration turns down it is quite likely that that number immigration turns down it is quite likely that that number will immigration turns down it is quite likely that that number will rise likely that that number will rise again. likely that that number will rise again. 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I was then allowing the Minister to was then allowing the Minister to continue was then allowing the Minister to continue if was then allowing the Minister to continue if she was then allowing the Minister to continue if she wanted was then allowing the Minister to continue if she wanted to was then allowing the Minister to continue if she wanted to add continue if she wanted to add anything continue if she wanted to add anything to continue if she wanted to add anything to her continue if she wanted to add anything to her primary continue if she wanted to add anything to her primary answer. continue if she wanted to add anything to her primary answer. But anything to her primary answer. But we'll anything to her primary answer. But we'll move anything to her primary answer. But we'll move to anything to her primary answer. But we'll move to supplementary we'll move to supplementary questions. we'll move to supplementary questions. How we'll move to supplementary questions. How does we'll move to supplementary questions. How does the we'll move to supplementary questions. How does the finding we'll move to supplementary questions. How does the finding of questions. How does the finding of sole questions. How does the finding of sole mothers questions. How does the finding of sole mothers of questions. How does the finding of sole mothers of $28 questions. How does the finding of sole mothers of $28 a questions. How does the finding of sole mothers of $28 a week questions. How does the finding of sole mothers of $28 a week protect sole mothers of $28 a week protect the sole mothers of $28 a week protect the best sole mothers of $28 a week protect the best interests sole mothers of $28 a week protect the best interests of sole mothers of $28 a week protect the best interests of their the best interests of their children? the best interests of their children? Mr the best interests of their children? Mr Mr the best interests of their children? Mr Mr Speaker, the best interests of their children? Mr Mr Speaker, benefit children? Mr Mr Speaker, benefit entitlements children? Mr Mr Speaker, benefit entitlements have children? Mr Mr Speaker, benefit entitlements have long children? Mr Mr Speaker, benefit entitlements have long been entitlements have long been associated entitlements have long been associated with entitlements have long been associated with Child entitlements have long been associated with Child Por. entitlements have long been associated with Child Por. In entitlements have long been associated with Child Por. In those associated with Child Por. In those arrangements associated with Child Por. In those arrangements -- associated with Child Por. In those arrangements -- child associated with Child Por. In those arrangements -- child support. associated with Child Por. In those arrangements -- child support. And arrangements -- child support. And in arrangements -- child support. And in those arrangements -- child support. And in those arrangements arrangements -- child support. And in those arrangements there arrangements -- child support. And in those arrangements there are arrangements -- child support. And in those arrangements there are both in those arrangements there are both expectations in those arrangements there are both expectations and in those arrangements there are both expectations and sanctions. in those arrangements there are both expectations and sanctions. In in those arrangements there are both expectations and sanctions. In the expectations and sanctions. In the particular expectations and sanctions. In the particular case expectations and sanctions. In the particular case the expectations and sanctions. In the particular case the member expectations and sanctions. In the particular case the member is expectations and sanctions. In the particular case the member is asking particular case the member is asking about particular case the member is asking about there particular case the member is asking about there are particular case the member is asking about there are sanctions particular case the member is asking about there are sanctions where particular case the member is asking about there are sanctions where both about there are sanctions where both parents about there are sanctions where both parents are about there are sanctions where both parents are not about there are sanctions where both parents are not contributing about there are sanctions where both parents are not contributing but parents are not contributing but there parents are not contributing but there are parents are not contributing but there are also parents are not contributing but there are also exemptions parents are not contributing but there are also exemptions about there are also exemptions about which there are also exemptions about there there are also exemptions about which an application there are also exemptions about which an application can there are also exemptions about which an application can be there are also exemptions about which an application can be made. which an application can be made. How which an application can be made. How has which an application can be made. How has the which an application can be made. How has the Convention which an application can be made. How has the Convention been How has the Convention been considered How has the Convention been considered in How has the Convention been considered in Government's How has the Convention been considered in Government's decision considered in Government's decision to considered in Government's decision How considered in Government's decision to keep benefits considered in Government's decision to keep benefits so considered in Government's decision to keep benefits so low considered in Government's decision to keep benefits so low that considered in Government's decision to keep benefits so low that the to keep benefits so low that the poorest to keep benefits so low that the poorest parents to keep benefits so low that the poorest parents in to keep benefits so low that the poorest parents in New to keep benefits so low that the poorest parents in New Zealand to keep benefits so low that the poorest parents in New Zealand are poorest parents in New Zealand are now poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over 50% poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over 50% of poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over 50% of the poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over 50% of the income poorest parents in New Zealand are now paying over 50% of the income in now paying over 50% of the income in rent now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? The now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? The Hon now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? The Hon Hekia now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. now paying over 50% of the income in rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, the rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, the relevance rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, the relevance of rent alone? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, the relevance of Minister Speaker, the relevance of Minister Tolley Speaker, the relevance of Minister Tolley reporting Speaker, the relevance of Minister Tolley reporting to Speaker, the relevance of Minister Tolley reporting to the Speaker, the relevance of Minister Tolley reporting to the United Tolley reporting to the United Nations Tolley reporting to the United Nations at Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this time Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this time is Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this time is to Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this time is to report Tolley reporting to the United Nations at this time is to report on Nations at this time is to report on the Nations at this time is to report on the significant Nations at this time is to report on the significant range Nations at this time is to report on the significant range of Nations at this time is to report on the significant range of supports the significant range of supports that the significant range of supports the the significant range of supports that this Government the significant range of supports that this Government has the significant range of supports that this Government has put the significant range of supports that this Government has put in the significant range of supports that this Government has put in for that this Government has put in for the that this Government has put in for the most that this Government has put in for the most vulnerable, that this Government has put in for the most vulnerable, of that this Government has put in for the most vulnerable, of whom that this Government has put in for the most vulnerable, of whom the the most vulnerable, of whom the large the most vulnerable, of whom the large proportion the most vulnerable, of whom the large proportion are the most vulnerable, of whom the large proportion are children. the most vulnerable, of whom the large proportion are children. That large proportion are children. That has large proportion are children. That has included large proportion are children. That has included the large proportion are children. That has included the $790 large proportion are children. That has included the $790 million has included the $790 million increase has included the $790 million increase in has included the $790 million increase in hardship. has included the $790 million increase in hardship. It's has included the $790 million increase in hardship. It's included increase in hardship. It's included the increase in hardship. It's included the establishment increase in hardship. It's included the establishment of increase in hardship. It's included the establishment of the increase in hardship. It's included the establishment of the Ministry the establishment of the Ministry for the establishment of the Ministry for Vulnerable the establishment of the Ministry for Vulnerable Children, the establishment of the Ministry for Vulnerable Children, it the establishment of the Ministry for Vulnerable Children, it has for Vulnerable Children, it has included for Vulnerable Children, it has included the for Vulnerable Children, it has included the children's for Vulnerable Children, it has included the children's teams, for Vulnerable Children, it has included the children's teams, it included the children's teams, it has included the children's teams, it has included, included the children's teams, it has included, for included the children's teams, it has included, for instance, included the children's teams, it has included, for instance, in included the children's teams, it has included, for instance, in the has included, for instance, in the education has included, for instance, in the education area has included, for instance, in the education area the has included, for instance, in the education area the targeting has included, for instance, in the education area the targeting of education area the targeting of operation education area the targeting of operation grants education area the targeting of operation grants to education area the targeting of operation grants to those education area the targeting of operation grants to those young operation grants to those young people operation grants to those young people who operation grants to those young people who have operation grants to those young people who have spent operation grants to those young people who have spent a operation grants to those young people who have spent a significant people who have spent a significant amount people who have spent a significant amount of people who have spent a significant amount of their people who have spent a significant amount of their time people who have spent a significant amount of their time in people who have spent a significant amount of their time in benefit amount of their time in benefit -dependent amount of their time in benefit -dependent families. amount of their time in benefit -dependent families. How amount of their time in benefit -dependent families. How many amount of their time in benefit -dependent families. How many of amount of their time in benefit -dependent families. How many of the -dependent families. How many of the 148,000 -dependent families. How many of the 148,000 New -dependent families. How many of the 148,000 New Zealand -dependent families. How many of the 148,000 New Zealand children 148,000 New Zealand children currently 148,000 New Zealand children operation 148,000 New Zealand children currently in hardship 148,000 New Zealand children currently in hardship will 148,000 New Zealand children currently in hardship will be currently in hardship will be brought currently in hardship will be brought out currently in hardship will be brought out of currently in hardship will be brought out of that currently in hardship will be brought out of that hardship currently in hardship will be brought out of that hardship because brought out of that hardship because of brought out of that hardship because of the brought out of that hardship because of the $25 brought out of that hardship because of the $25 a brought out of that hardship because of the $25 a week brought out of that hardship because of the $25 a week benefit brought out of that hardship because of the $25 a week benefit increase? of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr Speaker, of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr Speaker, on of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr Speaker, on behalf of of the $25 a week benefit increase? Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Social Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, I Minister of Social Development, I don't Minister of Social Development, I Minister Minister of Social Development, I don't have that Minister of Social Development, I don't have that detail Minister of Social Development, I don't have that detail to Minister of Social Development, I don't have that detail to hand, Minister of Social Development, I don't have that detail to hand, but don't have that detail to hand, but I don't have that detail to hand, but I can don't have that detail to hand, but I can say don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that it don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that it is don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that it is not don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that it is not one don't have that detail to hand, but I can say that it is not one thing I can say that it is not one thing or I can say that it is not one thing or another. I can say that it is not one thing or another. It I can say that it is not one thing or another. It is I can say that it is not one thing or another. It is the I can say that it is not one thing or another. It is the mix I can say that it is not one thing or another. It is the mix of or another. It is the mix of investment or another. It is the mix of investment that or another. It is the mix of investment that the or another. It is the mix of investment that the Government or another. It is the mix of investment that the Government is investment that the Government is making investment that the Government is making that investment that the Government is making that are investment that the Government is making that are directed investment that the Government is making that are directed at investment that the Government is making that are directed at how investment that the Government is making that are directed at how we making that are directed at how we help making that are directed at how we help all making that are directed at how we help all New making that are directed at how we help all New Zealanders, making that are directed at how we help all New Zealanders, including help all New Zealanders, including those help all New Zealanders, including those most help all New Zealanders, including those most vulnerable. those most vulnerable. Supplementary those most vulnerable. Supplementary question, those most vulnerable. Supplementary question, Metiria Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How many Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How many of Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How many of the Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How many of the more Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. How many of the more than Turei. How many of the more than 20,000 Turei. How many of the more than 20,000 children Turei. How many of the more than 20,000 children and Turei. How many of the more than 20,000 children and parents 20,000 children and parents currently 20,000 children and parents Turei. 20,000 children and parents currently homeless will 20,000 children and parents currently homeless will be 20,000 children and parents currently homeless will be housed 20,000 children and parents currently homeless will be housed as currently homeless will be housed as a currently homeless will be housed as a result currently homeless will be housed as a result of currently homeless will be housed as a result of the currently homeless will be housed as a result of the $25 currently homeless will be housed as a result of the $25 a currently homeless will be housed as a result of the $25 a week currently homeless will be housed as a result of the $25 a week increase? a result of the $25 a week increase? The a result of the $25 a week increase? The Hon a result of the $25 a week increase? The Hon Hekia a result of the $25 a week increase? The Hon Hekia Parata. a result of the $25 a week increase? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr a result of the $25 a week increase? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on behalf The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on behalf of The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on behalf of the The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on behalf of the Minister The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, again, on behalf of the Minister of again, on behalf of the Minister of Social again, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, again, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, I again, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, I can't again, on behalf of the Minister of Social Development, I can't provide Social Development, I can't provide that Social Development, I can't provide that detail. Social Development, I can't provide that detail. But Social Development, I can't provide that detail. But in Social Development, I can't provide that detail. But in respect Social Development, I can't provide that detail. But in respect of Social Development, I can't provide that detail. But in respect of the that detail. But in respect of the previous that detail. But in respect of the previous question that detail. But in respect of the previous question that that detail. But in respect of the previous question that the that detail. But in respect of the previous question that the member previous question that the member asked, previous question that the member asked, I previous question that the member asked, I can previous question that the member asked, I can tell previous question that the member asked, I can tell her previous question that the member asked, I can tell her that previous question that the member asked, I can tell her that over asked, I can tell her that over 17,000 asked, I can tell her that over 17,000 children asked, I can tell her that over 17,000 children are asked, I can tell her that over 17,000 children are affected asked, I can tell her that over 17,000 children are affected by 17,000 children are affected by fathers 17,000 children are affected by fathers who 17,000 children are affected by fathers who are 17,000 children are affected by fathers who are not 17,000 children are affected by fathers who are not contributing 17,000 children are affected by fathers who are not contributing to fathers who are not contributing to Child fathers who are not contributing to Child Support. fathers who are not contributing to Child Support. Supplementary. fathers who are not contributing to Child Support. Supplementary. Order! Child Support. Supplementary. Order! <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> They <INTERRUPTION> They don't <INTERRUPTION> They don't get, <INTERRUPTION> They don't get, that's <INTERRUPTION> They don't get, that's right. <INTERRUPTION> They don't get, that's right. Order! They don't get, that's right. Order! Supplementary They don't get, that's right. Order! Supplementary question, They don't get, that's right. Order! Supplementary question, Metiria Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Supplementary question, Metiria Supplementary Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Thank you, Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Thank you, Mr Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it a Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it a fact, Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it a fact, Minister, Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that Turei. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that the it a fact, Minister, that the payments it a fact, Minister, that the payments that it a fact, Minister, that the payments that are it a fact, Minister, that the payments that are made it a fact, Minister, that the payments that are made by it a fact, Minister, that the payments that are made by those payments that are made by those fathers, payments that are made by those fathers, in payments that are made by those fathers, in the payments that are made by those fathers, in the main, payments that are made by those fathers, in the main, do payments that are made by those fathers, in the main, do not payments that are made by those fathers, in the main, do not go payments that are made by those fathers, in the main, do not go to fathers, in the main, do not go to the fathers, in the main, do not go to the sole fathers, in the main, do not go to the sole parents, fathers, in the main, do not go to the sole parents, the fathers, in the main, do not go to the sole parents, the sole fathers, in the main, do not go to the sole parents, the sole mothers, the sole parents, the sole mothers, who the sole parents, the sole mothers, who are the sole parents, the sole mothers, who are fined, the sole parents, the sole mothers, who are fined, potentially the sole parents, the sole mothers, who are fined, potentially fined, who are fined, potentially fined, that who are fined, potentially fined, that it who are fined, potentially fined, that it does who are fined, potentially fined, that it does not who are fined, potentially fined, that it does not go who are fined, potentially fined, that it does not go to who are fined, potentially fined, that it does not go to those who are fined, potentially fined, that it does not go to those parents that it does not go to those parents if that it does not go to those parents if they that it does not go to those parents if they are that it does not go to those parents if they are on that it does not go to those parents if they are on a that it does not go to those parents if they are on a benefit? that it does not go to those parents if they are on a benefit? Well, that it does not go to those parents if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, there if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, there are if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, there are two if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, there are two avenues if they are on a benefit? Well, Mr Speaker, there are two avenues by Speaker, there are two avenues by which Speaker, there are two avenues by which a Speaker, there are two avenues by which a father Speaker, there are two avenues by which a father can Speaker, there are two avenues by which a father can contribute. Speaker, there are two avenues by which a father can contribute. One which a father can contribute. One is which a father can contribute. One is by which a father can contribute. One is by meeting which a father can contribute. One is by meeting their which a father can contribute. One is by meeting their requirement is by meeting their requirement under is by meeting their requirement is is by meeting their requirement under the benefit is by meeting their requirement under the benefit dispensation is by meeting their requirement under the benefit dispensation to under the benefit dispensation to the under the benefit dispensation to the sole under the benefit dispensation to the sole mother. under the benefit dispensation to the sole mother. The under the benefit dispensation to the sole mother. The other under the benefit dispensation to the sole mother. The other is the sole mother. The other is contributing the sole mother. The other is contributing directly the sole mother. The other is contributing directly to the sole mother. The other is contributing directly to the the sole mother. The other is contributing directly to the mother contributing directly to the mother of contributing directly to the mother of the contributing directly to the mother of the child. contributing directly to the mother of the child. Order, contributing directly to the mother of the child. Order, sir, contributing directly to the mother of the child. Order, sir, it contributing directly to the mother of the child. Order, sir, it is contributing directly to the mother of the child. Order, sir, it is a of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct question. of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct question. Could of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct question. Could we of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct question. Could we just of the child. Order, sir, it is a direct question. Could we just have direct question. Could we just have the direct question. Could we just have the question direct question. Could we just have the question for direct question. Could we just have the question for the direct question. Could we just have the question for the benefit direct question. Could we just have the question for the benefit of direct question. Could we just have the question for the benefit of the the question for the benefit of the Minister. the question for the benefit of the Minister. Sure. the question for the benefit of the Minister. Sure. Isn't the question for the benefit of the Minister. Sure. Isn't it the question for the benefit of the Minister. Sure. Isn't it a the question for the benefit of the Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that the Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that the payments Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that the payments made Minister. Sure. Isn't it a fact, Minister, that the payments made by Minister, that the payments made by those Minister, that the payments made by those fathers Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do not Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do not go Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do not go to Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do not go to the Minister, that the payments made by those fathers do not go to the sole those fathers do not go to the sole parents, those fathers do not go to the sole parents, mothers, those fathers do not go to the sole parents, mothers, who those fathers do not go to the sole parents, mothers, who are parents, mothers, who are responsible parents, mothers, who are responsible for parents, mothers, who are responsible for those parents, mothers, who are responsible for those children? parents, mothers, who are responsible for those children? The responsible for those children? The Hon responsible for those children? The responsible responsible for those children? The Hon Hekia Parata. responsible for those children? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr responsible for those children? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, responsible for those children? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as responsible for those children? The Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I answered Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I answered the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I answered the first Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I answered the first time, Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I answered the first time, there Hon Hekia Parata. 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Will the Minister meet the challenge Mr Speaker. Will the Minister meet the challenge from Mr Speaker. Will the Minister meet the challenge from the Mr Speaker. Will the Minister meet the challenge from the Children's the challenge from the Children's Commissioner, the challenge from the Children's Commissioner, Andrew the challenge from the Children's Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft the challenge from the Children's Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, and Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, and set Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, and set clear Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, and set clear targets Commissioner, Andrew Beecroft this morning, and set clear targets to morning, and set clear targets to make morning, and set clear targets to make sure morning, and set clear targets to make sure the morning, and set clear targets to make sure the Government morning, and set clear targets to make sure the Government meets morning, and set clear targets to make sure the Government meets its make sure the Government meets its obligations make sure the Government meets its obligations under make sure the Government meets its obligations under the make sure the Government meets its obligations under the United make sure the Government meets its obligations under the United Nations obligations under the United Nations Convention obligations under the United Nations Convention on obligations under the United Nations Convention on the obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Rights obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of obligations under the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Convention on the Rights of the Child. 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For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided disagree with Mr Glass, actually. For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home this For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home this year For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home this year instead For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home this year instead of For the 30,000 Kiwis who decided to stay home this year instead of go stay home this year instead of go away, stay home this year instead of go away, we stay home this year instead of go away, we don't stay home this year instead of go away, we don't regard stay home this year instead of go away, we don't regard that stay home this year instead of go away, we don't regard that as stay home this year instead of go away, we don't regard that as some away, we don't regard that as some kind away, we don't regard that as some kind of away, we don't regard that as some kind of statistical away, we don't regard that as some kind of statistical blip away, we don't regard that as some kind of statistical blip that away, we don't regard that as some kind of statistical blip that upset kind of statistical blip that upset it kind of statistical blip that upset it is per kind of statistical blip that upset it is per capita kind of statistical blip that upset it is per capita calculation. kind of statistical blip that upset it is per capita calculation. 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And if that makes that going to Australia! And if that makes that particular going to Australia! And if that makes that particular statistic going to Australia! And if that makes that particular statistic a makes that particular statistic a bit makes that particular statistic a bit soft makes that particular statistic a bit soft for makes that particular statistic a bit soft for a makes that particular statistic a bit soft for a few makes that particular statistic a bit soft for a few quarters, makes that particular statistic a bit soft for a few quarters, well, bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a small bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a small price bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a small price to bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a small price to pay bit soft for a few quarters, well, that's a small price to pay for that's a small price to pay for success that's a small price to pay for success where that's a small price to pay for success where people that's a small price to pay for success where people are that's a small price to pay for success where people are voting that's a small price to pay for success where people are voting with success where people are voting with their success where people are voting with their feet success where people are voting with their feet to success where people are voting with their feet to stay success where people are voting with their feet to stay home. success where people are voting with their feet to stay home. Question their feet to stay home. Question no. their feet to stay home. Question no. 4, their feet to stay home. Question no. 4, Matt their feet to stay home. Question no. 4, Matt Doocey. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Science My question is to the Minister of Science and My question is to the Minister of Science and Innovation: Science and Innovation: What Science and Innovation: What new Science and Innovation: What new investment Science and Innovation: What new investment has Science and Innovation: What new investment has the What new investment has the Government What new investment has the Government announced What new investment has the Government announced in What new investment has the Government announced in high-quality Government announced in high-quality scientific Government announced in high-quality scientific research? The The Hon The Hon Steven The Hon Steven Joyce. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this week The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this week I The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this week I announced The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this week I announced funding The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, this week I announced funding of this week I announced funding of $209 this week I announced funding of $209 million this week I announced funding of $209 million over this week I announced funding of $209 million over five this week I announced funding of $209 million over five years this week I announced funding of $209 million over five years for this week I announced funding of $209 million over five years for 56 $209 million over five years for 56 new $209 million over five years for 56 new scientific $209 million over five years for 56 new scientific research $209 million over five years for 56 new scientific research perhaps new scientific research perhaps through new scientific research perhaps through the new scientific research perhaps through the Government's new scientific research perhaps through the Government's Endeavour through the Government's Endeavour Fund. through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It is through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It is part through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It is part of through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It is part of Budget through the Government's Endeavour Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Innovative Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Innovative New Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Innovative New Zealand Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Innovative New Zealand Package Fund. It is part of Budget 2016 Innovative New Zealand Package is Innovative New Zealand Package is part Innovative New Zealand Package is part of Innovative New Zealand Package is part of the Innovative New Zealand Package is part of the government's Innovative New Zealand Package is part of the government's 10-year part of the government's 10-year vision part of the government's 10-year vision for part of the government's 10-year vision for a part of the government's 10-year vision for a highly part of the government's 10-year vision for a highly dynamic part of the government's 10-year vision for a highly dynamic science vision for a highly dynamic science system. vision for a highly dynamic science system. It vision for a highly dynamic science system. It supports vision for a highly dynamic science system. It supports smart vision for a highly dynamic science system. It supports smart ideas vision for a highly dynamic science system. It supports smart ideas and system. It supports smart ideas and larger system. It supports smart ideas and larger research system. It supports smart ideas and larger research programmes. system. It supports smart ideas and larger research programmes. Research larger research programmes. Research programmes larger research programmes. Research programmes rewarded larger research programmes. Research programmes rewarded for larger research programmes. Research programmes rewarded for three larger research programmes. Research programmes rewarded for three to programmes rewarded for three to five programmes rewarded for three to five years programmes rewarded for three to five years and programmes rewarded for three to five years and support programmes rewarded for three to five years and support ambitious five years and support ambitious research five years and support ambitious research programmes five years and support ambitious research programmes with five years and support ambitious research programmes with high research programmes with high potential research programmes with high potential to research programmes with high potential to deliver research programmes with high potential to deliver significant potential to deliver significant impact potential to deliver significant impact for potential to deliver significant impact for New potential to deliver significant impact for New Zealand's potential to deliver significant impact for New Zealand's economy, impact for New Zealand's economy, environment impact for New Zealand's economy, environment and impact for New Zealand's economy, environment and society. environment and society. Supplementary environment and society. Supplementary question. environment and society. Supplementary question. Matt environment and society. Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What sort Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What sort of Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What sort of research Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What sort of research has Supplementary question. Matt Doocey. What sort of research has been What sort of research has been supported What sort of research has been supported by What sort of research has been supported by the What sort of research has been supported by the Endeavour What sort of research has been supported by the Endeavour Fund? What sort of research has been supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, there supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, there has supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, there has been supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, there has been a supported by the Endeavour Fund? Mr Speaker, there has been a large Speaker, there has been a large number Speaker, there has been a large number of Speaker, there has been a large number of high Speaker, there has been a large number of high qualityprobablies Speaker, there has been a large number of high qualityprobablies -- number of high qualityprobablies -- number of high qualityprobablies -- number of high qualityprobablies -- proposals received number of high qualityprobablies -- proposals received with number of high qualityprobablies -- proposals received with 56 number of high qualityprobablies -- proposals received with 56 being proposals received with 56 being granted proposals received with 56 being granted over proposals received with 56 being granted over a proposals received with 56 being granted over a range proposals received with 56 being granted over a range of proposals received with 56 being granted over a range of research granted over a range of research university. granted over a range of research university. Otago granted over a range of research university. Otago University granted over a range of research university. Otago University was university. Otago University was particularly university. Otago University was particularly successful university. Otago University was particularly successful with particularly successful with research particularly successful with research programmes, particularly successful with research programmes, along particularly successful with research programmes, along with research programmes, along with Nelson's research programmes, along with Nelson's Corethron research programmes, along with Nelson's Corethron Institute, research programmes, along with Nelson's Corethron Institute, a Nelson's Corethron Institute, a world-first Nelson's Corethron Institute, a world-first proven Nelson's Corethron Institute, a world-first proven application Nelson's Corethron Institute, a world-first proven application test world-first proven application test of world-first proven application test of pest world-first proven application test of pest test world-first proven application test of pest test control, world-first proven application test of pest test control, and world-first proven application test of pest test control, and a of pest test control, and a University of pest test control, and a particularly of pest test control, and a University of Cambridge of pest test control, and a University of Cambridge project. University of Cambridge project. These University of Cambridge project. These wide University of Cambridge project. These wide projects University of Cambridge project. These wide projects will University of Cambridge project. These wide projects will lift These wide projects will lift economic These wide projects will lift economic innovation These wide projects will lift economic innovation and These wide projects will lift economic innovation and growth These wide projects will lift economic innovation and growth and economic innovation and growth and improve economic innovation and growth and economic economic innovation and growth and improve the lives economic innovation and growth and improve the lives of economic innovation and growth and improve the lives of New economic innovation and growth and improve the lives of New Zealanders improve the lives of New Zealanders over improve the lives of New Zealanders over time. improve the lives of New Zealanders over time. Why improve the lives of New Zealanders over time. Why did improve the lives of New Zealanders over time. Why did the improve the lives of New Zealanders over time. Why did the Government over time. Why did the Government create over time. Why did the Government create the over time. Why did the Government create the Endeavour over time. Why did the Government create the Endeavour Fund? over time. Why did the Government create the Endeavour Fund? The over time. Why did the Government create the Endeavour Fund? The new create the Endeavour Fund? The new Endeavour create the Endeavour Fund? The new Endeavour Fund create the Endeavour Fund? The new Endeavour Fund replaces create the Endeavour Fund? The new Endeavour Fund replaces the Endeavour Fund replaces the previously Endeavour Fund replaces the previously MB Endeavour Fund replaces the previously MB cap Endeavour Fund replaces the previously MB cap contestable Endeavour Fund replaces the previously MB cap contestable Fund previously MB cap contestable Fund and previously MB cap contestable Fund and refocuses previously MB cap contestable Fund and refocuses our previously MB cap contestable Fund and refocuses our investment previously MB cap contestable Fund and refocuses our investment towards and refocuses our investment towards longer-term, and refocuses our investment towards longer-term, high-impact, longer-term, high-impact, mission-led longer-term, high-impact, mission-led programmes longer-term, high-impact, mission-led programmes of longer-term, high-impact, mission-led programmes of science. mission-led programmes of science. While mission-led programmes of science. While the mission-led programmes of science. While the economy, mission-led programmes of science. While the economy, as mission-led programmes of science. While the economy, as we mission-led programmes of science. While the economy, as we have mission-led programmes of science. While the economy, as we have heard While the economy, as we have heard today, While the economy, as we have heard today, is While the economy, as we have heard today, is performing While the economy, as we have heard today, is performing very While the economy, as we have heard today, is performing very welcome today, is performing very welcome paired today, is performing very welcome paired to today, is performing very welcome paired to most today, is performing very welcome paired to most of today, is performing very welcome paired to most of the today, is performing very welcome paired to most of the OECD, today, is performing very welcome paired to most of the OECD, it today, is performing very welcome paired to most of the OECD, it is paired to most of the OECD, it is important paired to most of the OECD, it is important we paired to most of the OECD, it is important we continue paired to most of the OECD, it is important we continue to paired to most of the OECD, it is important we continue to invest paired to most of the OECD, it is important we continue to invest in important we continue to invest in new important we continue to invest in new scientific important we continue to invest in new scientific technologies important we continue to invest in new scientific technologies and new scientific technologies and areas new scientific technologies and areas of new scientific technologies and areas of growth. new scientific technologies and areas of growth. This new scientific technologies and areas of growth. This fund new scientific technologies and areas of growth. This fund along areas of growth. This fund along with areas of growth. This fund along with other areas of growth. This fund along with other investment areas of growth. This fund along with other investment the areas of growth. This fund along with other investment the Government with other investment the Government has with other investment the Government has made with other investment the Government has made to with other investment the Government has made to grow with other investment the Government has made to grow the with other investment the Government has made to grow the level with other investment the Government has made to grow the level of has made to grow the level of scientific has made to grow the level of scientific research has made to grow the level of scientific research in has made to grow the level of scientific research in areas has made to grow the level of scientific research in areas like scientific research in areas like health scientific research in areas like health research, scientific research in areas like health research, the scientific research in areas like health research, the Marsden scientific research in areas like health research, the Marsden Fund health research, the Marsden Fund and health research, the Marsden Fund and the health research, the Marsden Fund and the Catalyst health research, the Marsden Fund and the Catalyst Fund health research, the Marsden Fund and the Catalyst Fund plus and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R & and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R & D and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R & D will and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R & D will continue and the Catalyst Fund plus business-led R & D will continue to business-led R & D will continue to ensure business-led R & D will continue to ensure we business-led R & D will continue to ensure we diversify business-led R & D will continue to ensure we diversify and business-led R & D will continue to ensure we diversify and grow business-led R & D will continue to ensure we diversify and grow our ensure we diversify and grow our economy. ensure we diversify and grow our economy. Question ensure we diversify and grow our economy. Question no. ensure we diversify and grow our economy. Question no. 5, ensure we diversify and grow our economy. Question no. 5, Chris economy. Question no. 5, Chris Hipkins. economy. Question no. 5, Chris Hipkins. Thank economy. Question no. 5, Chris Hipkins. Thank you, economy. Question no. 5, Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr economy. Question no. 5, Chris Hipkins. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: Education: Will Education: Will she Education: Will she now Education: Will she now recommend Education: Will she now recommend to Will she now recommend to Cabinet Will she now recommend to Cabinet that Will she now recommend to Cabinet that the Will she now recommend to Cabinet that the global Will she now recommend to Cabinet that the global budget Cabinet that the global budget proposal Cabinet that the global budget proposal not Cabinet that the global budget proposal not proceed, Cabinet that the global budget proposal not proceed, given Cabinet that the global budget proposal not proceed, given the proposal not proceed, given the sector proposal not proceed, given the sector advisory proposal not proceed, given the sector advisory group proposal not proceed, given the sector advisory group recommended proposal not proceed, given the sector advisory group recommended it sector advisory group recommended it not sector advisory group recommended it not proceed sector advisory group recommended it not proceed and sector advisory group recommended it not proceed and the sector advisory group recommended it not proceed and the Prime sector advisory group recommended it not proceed and the Prime Minister not proceed and the Prime Minister has not proceed and the Prime Minister has said not proceed and the Prime Minister has said that not proceed and the Prime Minister has said that the not proceed and the Prime Minister has said that the Government has said that the Government "wouldn't has said that the Government "wouldn't really has said that the Government "wouldn't really be has said that the Government "wouldn't really be progressing has said that the Government "wouldn't really be progressing the "wouldn't really be progressing the issue "wouldn't really be progressing the issue unless "wouldn't really be progressing the issue unless they "wouldn't really be progressing the issue unless they could "wouldn't really be progressing the issue unless they could get "wouldn't really be progressing the issue unless they could get the issue unless they could get the other issue unless they could get the other stakeholders issue unless they could get the other stakeholders on issue unless they could get the other stakeholders on board issue unless they could get the other stakeholders on board - issue unless they could get the other stakeholders on board - the other stakeholders on board - the unions other stakeholders on board - the unions and other stakeholders on board - the unions and others"? The The Hon The Hon prart The Hon prart -- The Hon prart -- the The Hon prart -- the Hon The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have The Hon prart -- the Hon Hekia Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in this Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in this House Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in this House we Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in this House we are Parata. Mr Speaker, as I have said many times in this House we are not many times in this House we are not process many times in this House we are not process and many times in this House we are not process and no many times in this House we are not process and no decisions many times in this House we are not process and no decisions have many times in this House we are not process and no decisions have been process and no decisions have been made. process and no decisions have been made. It process and no decisions have been made. It would process and no decisions have been made. It would also process and no decisions have been made. It would also not process and no decisions have been made. It would also not be made. It would also not be appropriate made. It would also not be appropriate for made. It would also not be appropriate for me made. It would also not be appropriate for me to made. It would also not be appropriate for me to discuss made. It would also not be appropriate for me to discuss what appropriate for me to discuss what has appropriate for me to discuss what has been appropriate for me to discuss what has been discussed appropriate for me to discuss what has been discussed before appropriate for me to discuss what has been discussed before Cabinet. appropriate for me to discuss what has been discussed before Cabinet. I has been discussed before Cabinet. I have has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read the has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read the report, has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read the report, I has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read the report, I am has been discussed before Cabinet. I have read the report, I am taking has been discussed before Cabinet. 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Mr class sizes one way or the other? Mr Speaker, class sizes one way or the other? Mr Speaker, no. class sizes one way or the other? Mr Speaker, no. Question class sizes one way or the other? Mr Speaker, no. Question No. class sizes one way or the other? Mr Speaker, no. Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Transport: Minister of Transport: Is Minister of Transport: Is he Minister of Transport: Is he satisfied Minister of Transport: Is he satisfied with Minister of Transport: Is he satisfied with current Is he satisfied with current requirements Is he satisfied with current requirements for Is he satisfied with current requirements for overseas Is he satisfied with current requirements for overseas drivers Is he satisfied with current requirements for overseas drivers in requirements for overseas drivers in New requirements for overseas drivers in New Zealand? 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Under with overseas licences who drive in New Zealand, then, yes. Under the New Zealand, then, yes. Under the relevant New Zealand, then, yes. Under the relevant driver New Zealand, then, yes. Under the relevant driver licensing New Zealand, then, yes. Under the relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand, then, yes. Under the relevant driver licensing rule, New relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand accepts relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand accepts and relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand accepts and has relevant driver licensing rule, New Zealand accepts and has understand Zealand accepts and has understand successive Zealand accepts and has understand successive Governments Zealand accepts and has understand successive Governments since Zealand accepts and has understand successive Governments since the successive Governments since the late successive Governments since the late '90s, successive Governments since the late '90s, accepts successive Governments since the late '90s, accepts driver successive Governments since the late '90s, accepts driver licences late '90s, accepts driver licences issued late '90s, accepts driver licences issued by late '90s, accepts driver licences issued by any late '90s, accepts driver licences issued by any overseas late '90s, accepts driver licences issued by any overseas authority issued by any overseas authority provided issued by any overseas authority provided they issued by any overseas authority provided they are issued by any overseas authority provided they are written issued by any overseas authority provided they are written in issued by any overseas authority provided they are written in English provided they are written in English or provided they are written in English or are provided they are written in English or are carried provided they are written in English or are carried with provided they are written in English or are carried with an provided they are written in English or are carried with an accurate or are carried with an accurate English or are carried with an accurate English translation. or are carried with an accurate English translation. 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This Government in partnership with This Government in partnership with other This Government in partnership with other organisations This Government in partnership with other organisations has This Government in partnership with other organisations has introduced other organisations has introduced numerous other organisations has introduced numerous initiatives other organisations has introduced numerous initiatives to other organisations has introduced numerous initiatives to better numerous initiatives to better inform numerous initiatives to better inform and numerous initiatives to better inform and educate numerous initiatives to better inform and educate visitors numerous initiatives to better inform and educate visitors who inform and educate visitors who intend inform and educate visitors who intend and inform and educate visitors who intend and do inform and educate visitors who intend and do drive inform and educate visitors who intend and do drive in inform and educate visitors who intend and do drive in New inform and educate visitors who intend and do drive in New Zealand. intend and do drive in New Zealand. 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Those initiatives cover all stages Those initiatives cover all stages of Those initiatives cover all stages of an Those initiatives cover all stages of an overseas Those initiatives cover all stages of an overseas visitor's Those initiatives cover all stages of an overseas visitor's trip Those initiatives cover all stages of an overseas visitor's trip from of an overseas visitor's trip from planning, of an overseas visitor's trip from planning, booking, of an overseas visitor's trip from planning, booking, inflight, of an overseas visitor's trip from planning, booking, inflight, on planning, booking, inflight, on arrival planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and on planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and on our planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and on our roads. planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and on our roads. If planning, booking, inflight, on arrival and on our roads. 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If it is good enough for countries like China good enough for countries like China to good enough for countries like China to require good enough for countries like China to require visitor good enough for countries like China to require visitor drivers good enough for countries like China to require visitor drivers to good enough for countries like China to require visitor drivers to sit good enough for countries like China to require visitor drivers to sit a to require visitor drivers to sit a driving to require visitor drivers to sit a driving test, to require visitor drivers to sit a driving test, what to require visitor drivers to sit a driving test, what are to require visitor drivers to sit a driving test, what are the to require visitor drivers to sit a driving test, what are the reasons driving test, what are the reasons his driving test, what are the reasons his Government driving test, what are the reasons his Government does driving test, what are the reasons his Government does not driving test, what are the reasons his Government does not require driving test, what are the reasons his Government does not require the his Government does not require the same his Government does not require the same here his Government does not require the same here given his Government does not require the same here given the his Government does not require the same here given the number his Government does not require the same here given the number and same here given the number and seriousness same here given the number and seriousness of same here given the number and seriousness of accidents same here given the number and seriousness of accidents involving seriousness of accidents involving foreign seriousness of accidents involving foreign drivers? seriousness of accidents involving foreign drivers? Mr seriousness of accidents involving foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, seriousness of accidents involving foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to seriousness of accidents involving foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put it foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put it in foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put it in perspective, foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put it in perspective, the foreign drivers? Mr Speaker, to put it in perspective, the member's foreign drivers? 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In there were 3.3 million international visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there were visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there were 291 visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there were 291 sadly visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there were 291 sadly fatal visitors to New Zealand. In 2015, there were 291 sadly fatal crashes there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in New there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in New Zealand there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in New Zealand and there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in New Zealand and sadly there were 291 sadly fatal crashes in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious injury in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious injury crashes. in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious injury crashes. Of in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious injury crashes. Of those in New Zealand and sadly 1,822 serious injury crashes. Of those - serious injury crashes. Of those - of serious injury crashes. Of those - of those serious injury crashes. Of those - of those - serious injury crashes. Of those - of those - overseas serious injury crashes. Of those - of those - overseas drivers serious injury crashes. Of those - of those - overseas drivers were serious injury crashes. Of those - of those - overseas drivers were at of those - overseas drivers were at fault of those - overseas drivers were at fault in of those - overseas drivers were at fault in 16 of those - overseas drivers were at fault in 16 fatal of those - overseas drivers were at fault in 16 fatal crashes, of those - overseas drivers were at fault in 16 fatal crashes, and of those - overseas drivers were at fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 serious fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 serious injury fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 serious injury crashes. fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 serious injury crashes. Mr fault in 16 fatal crashes, and 79 serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate - serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate - any serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate - any crash, serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate - any crash, any serious injury crashes. Mr Speaker, I reiterate - any crash, any fatally I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but we I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but we must I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but we must keep I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but we must keep it I reiterate - any crash, any fatally is a tragedy, but we must keep it in is a tragedy, but we must keep it in perspective is a tragedy, but we must keep it in perspective and is a tragedy, but we must keep it in perspective and context. is a tragedy, but we must keep it in perspective and context. It's perspective and context. It's ridiculous. perspective and context. It's ridiculous. Order! perspective and context. It's ridiculous. 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In the case of the Chinese Nationals caught case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently driving case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently driving tour case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently driving tour buses case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently driving tour buses on case of the Chinese Nationals caught recently driving tour buses on fake recently driving tour buses on fake or recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed licences, recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed licences, has recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed licences, has he recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed licences, has he seen recently driving tour buses on fake or borrowed licences, has he seen to or borrowed licences, has he seen to it or borrowed licences, has he seen to it that or borrowed licences, has he seen to it that travels, or borrowed licences, has he seen to it that travels, transport or borrowed licences, has he seen to it that travels, transport services it that travels, transport services licence, it that travels, transport services licence, is it that travels, transport services licence, is cancelled? it that travels, transport services licence, is cancelled? Or it that travels, transport services licence, is cancelled? Or at it that travels, transport services licence, is cancelled? Or at least licence, is cancelled? Or at least suspended licence, is cancelled? Or at least suspended pending licence, is cancelled? Or at least suspended pending a licence, is cancelled? Or at least suspended pending a full suspended pending a full investigation suspended pending a full investigation and suspended pending a full investigation and if suspended pending a full investigation and if not, suspended pending a full investigation and if not, why suspended pending a full investigation and if not, why not? investigation and if not, why not? Mr investigation and if not, why not? Mr Speaker, investigation and if not, why not? Mr Speaker, I investigation and if not, why not? Mr Speaker, I won't investigation and if not, why not? Mr Speaker, I won't comment Mr Speaker, I won't comment particularly Mr Speaker, I won't comment particularly on Mr Speaker, I won't comment particularly on that Mr Speaker, I won't comment particularly on that case Mr Speaker, I won't comment particularly on that case because particularly on that case because actions particularly on that case because actions are particularly on that case because actions are being particularly on that case because actions are being undertaken, particularly on that case because actions are being undertaken, but particularly on that case because actions are being undertaken, but Mr actions are being undertaken, but Mr Speaker, actions are being undertaken, but Mr Speaker, we actions are being undertaken, but Mr Speaker, we take actions are being undertaken, but Mr Speaker, we take driver actions are being undertaken, but Mr Speaker, we take driver licence Speaker, we take driver licence fraud Speaker, we take driver licence fraud - Speaker, we take driver licence fraud - driver Speaker, we take driver licence fraud - driver licence Speaker, we take driver licence fraud - driver licence misdemeanours fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, very, fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, very, very fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, very, very seriously. fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, very, very seriously. And fraud - driver licence misdemeanours very, very, very seriously. And I very, very, very seriously. And I would very, very, very seriously. And I would note very, very, very seriously. And I would note that very, very, very seriously. And I would note that the very, very, very seriously. And I would note that the allegations very, very, very seriously. And I would note that the allegations in would note that the allegations in around would note that the allegations in around that would note that the allegations in around that particular would note that the allegations in around that particular case, would note that the allegations in around that particular case, many around that particular case, many laws, around that particular case, many laws, rules around that particular case, many laws, rules and around that particular case, many laws, rules and regulations around that particular case, many laws, rules and regulations have laws, rules and regulations have allegedly laws, rules and regulations have allegedly been laws, rules and regulations have allegedly been broken. laws, rules and regulations have allegedly been broken. Is laws, rules and regulations have allegedly been broken. Is he allegedly been broken. Is he concerned allegedly been broken. Is he concerned that allegedly been broken. Is he concerned that his allegedly been broken. Is he concerned that his Government's concerned that his Government's softness concerned that his Government's softness on concerned that his Government's softness on overseas concerned that his Government's softness on overseas drivers concerned that his Government's softness on overseas drivers is softness on overseas drivers is being softness on overseas drivers is being reflected softness on overseas drivers is being reflected in softness on overseas drivers is being reflected in similarly softness on overseas drivers is being reflected in similarly soft being reflected in similarly soft sentences being reflected in similarly soft sentences for being reflected in similarly soft sentences for offences being reflected in similarly soft sentences for offences drivers being reflected in similarly soft sentences for offences drivers who sentences for offences drivers who cause sentences for offences drivers who cause fatal sentences for offences drivers who cause fatal accidents sentences for offences drivers who cause fatal accidents here? sentences for offences drivers who cause fatal accidents here? And sentences for offences drivers who cause fatal accidents here? And if cause fatal accidents here? And if so, cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when will cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when will he cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when will he do cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when will he do something cause fatal accidents here? And if so, when will he do something about so, when will he do something about it? so, when will he do something about it? Mr so, when will he do something about it? Mr Speaker, so, when will he do something about it? Mr Speaker, I so, when will he do something about it? Mr Speaker, I will so, when will he do something about it? Mr Speaker, I will not so, when will he do something about it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment on it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment on matters it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment on matters that it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment on matters that are it? Mr Speaker, I will not comment on matters that are under on matters that are under investigation on matters that are under investigation and/or on matters that are under investigation and/or before on matters that are under investigation and/or before the investigation and/or before the Courts. investigation and/or before the Courts. Question investigation and/or before the Courts. Question No. investigation and/or before the Courts. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Conservation: Conservation: Does Conservation: Does she Conservation: Does she stand Conservation: Does she stand by Conservation: Does she stand by her Conservation: Does she stand by her statement Conservation: Does she stand by her statement that Does she stand by her statement that Vote Does she stand by her statement that Vote Conservation Does she stand by her statement that Vote Conservation has Does she stand by her statement that Vote Conservation has not Does she stand by her statement that Vote Conservation has not been Does she stand by her statement that Vote Conservation has not been cut? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, on Mr Speaker, on behalf Mr Speaker, on behalf of Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Conservation, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Conservation, yes. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Conservation Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Conservation is Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Conservation is estimated Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Conservation is estimated this Minister of Conservation, yes. Vote Conservation is estimated this year Conservation is estimated this year to Conservation is estimated this year to be Conservation is estimated this year to be $451 Conservation is estimated this year to be $451 million Conservation is estimated this year to be $451 million and Conservation is estimated this year to be $451 million and that Conservation is estimated this year to be $451 million and that compares to be $451 million and that compares to to be $451 million and that compares to $362 to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million in to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million in the to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million in the last to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million in the last year to be $451 million and that compares to $362 million in the last year of to $362 million in the last year of the to $362 million in the last year of the previous to $362 million in the last year of the previous Government. to $362 million in the last year of the previous Government. 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Mr Speaker, inflation has been at Government took office? Mr Speaker, inflation has been at record Government took office? Mr Speaker, inflation has been at record low inflation has been at record low levels, inflation has been at record low levels, that's inflation has been at record low levels, that's good inflation has been at record low levels, that's good news inflation has been at record low levels, that's good news for levels, that's good news for households levels, that's good news for households as levels, that's good news for households as well levels, that's good news for households as well as levels, that's good news for households as well as departments households as well as departments like households as well as departments like Conservation, households as well as departments like Conservation, but households as well as departments like Conservation, but if households as well as departments like Conservation, but if you like Conservation, but if you calculate like Conservation, but if you calculate the like Conservation, but if you calculate the increase like Conservation, but if you calculate the increase that like Conservation, but if you calculate the increase that the like Conservation, but if you calculate the increase that the Dept calculate the increase that the Dept of calculate the increase that the Dept of Conservation calculate the increase that the Dept of Conservation in calculate the increase that the Dept of Conservation in this calculate the increase that the Dept of Conservation in this year's of Conservation in this year's budget of Conservation in this year's budget as of Conservation in this year's budget as compared of Conservation in this year's budget as compared with of Conservation in this year's budget as compared with that of Conservation in this year's budget as compared with that in of Conservation in this year's budget as compared with that in the budget as compared with that in the last budget as compared with that in the last full budget as compared with that in the last full year budget as compared with that in the last full year of budget as compared with that in the last full year of the budget as compared with that in the last full year of the previous last full year of the previous Government, last full year of the previous Government, it last full year of the previous Government, it is last full year of the previous Government, it is more last full year of the previous Government, it is more of last full year of the previous Government, it is more of an Government, it is more of an increase Government, it is more of an increase than Government, it is more of an increase than that Government, it is more of an increase than that from Government, it is more of an increase than that from inflation. increase than that from inflation. 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I'm going to invite the member to repeat the last 12 months. I'm going to invite the member to repeat the question. the member to repeat the question. Thank the member to repeat the question. Thank you, the member to repeat the question. Thank you, Mr the member to repeat the question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. the member to repeat the question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. When the member to repeat the question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted for Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted for inflation, Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted for inflation, has Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted for inflation, has Vote Thank you, Mr Speaker. When adjusted for inflation, has Vote Conservation for inflation, has Vote Conservation been for inflation, has Vote Conservation been cut for inflation, has Vote Conservation been cut since for inflation, has Vote Conservation been cut since her for inflation, has Vote Conservation been cut since her Government for inflation, has Vote Conservation been cut since her Government took been cut since her Government took office? been cut since her Government took office? Mr been cut since her Government took office? Mr Speaker, been cut since her Government took office? Mr Speaker, I been cut since her Government took office? Mr Speaker, I repeat been cut since her Government took office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In the office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In the last office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In the last full office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In the last full year office? Mr Speaker, I repeat the figures. In the last full year of figures. In the last full year of the figures. In the last full year of the previous figures. In the last full year of the previous Government, figures. In the last full year of the previous Government, the figures. In the last full year of the previous Government, the Dept figures. In the last full year of the previous Government, the Dept of the previous Government, the Dept of Conservation the previous Government, the Dept of Conservation budget the previous Government, the Dept of Conservation budget was the previous Government, the Dept of Conservation budget was $362 Conservation budget was $362 million. Conservation budget was $362 million. The Conservation budget was $362 million. The estimated Conservation budget was $362 million. The estimated budget Conservation budget was $362 million. The estimated budget for million. The estimated budget for this million. The estimated budget for this year million. The estimated budget for this year is million. The estimated budget for this year is $451 million. The estimated budget for this year is $451 million. million. The estimated budget for this year is $451 million. If million. The estimated budget for this year is $451 million. If the this year is $451 million. If the member this year is $451 million. If the member calculates, this year is $451 million. If the member calculates, that this year is $451 million. If the member calculates, that is this year is $451 million. 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When she Minister of Police, yes. When she said Minister of Police, yes. When she said in Minister of Police, yes. When she said in 2011 Minister of Police, yes. When she said in 2011 that Minister of Police, yes. When she said in 2011 that the Minister of Police, yes. 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Mr assault and not aggravated assault? Mr Speaker, assault and not aggravated assault? Mr Speaker, on assault and not aggravated assault? Mr Speaker, on behalf assault and not aggravated assault? Mr Speaker, on behalf of assault and not aggravated assault? 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That's quite different from offering really firm backing for offering really firm backing for police offering really firm backing for police officers offering really firm backing for police officers in offering really firm backing for police officers in terms offering really firm backing for police officers in terms of police officers in terms of condemning police officers in terms of condemning behaviour, police officers in terms of condemning behaviour, two police officers in terms of condemning behaviour, two very condemning behaviour, two very different condemning behaviour, two very police condemning behaviour, two very different things which condemning behaviour, two very different things which that condemning behaviour, two very different things which that member different things which that member is different things which that member is very different things which that member is very trickily different things which that member is very trickily trying different things which that member is very trickily trying to different things which that member is very trickily trying to conflate. is very trickily trying to conflate. 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In light of that, can she confirm In light of that, can she confirm that In light of that, can she confirm that when In light of that, can she confirm that when she In light of that, can she confirm that when she openly In light of that, can she confirm that when she openly spoke In light of that, can she confirm that when she openly spoke about that when she openly spoke about constable that when she openly spoke about constable Kane's that when she openly spoke about constable Kane's assault that when she openly spoke about constable Kane's assault in that when she openly spoke about constable Kane's assault in 2011 constable Kane's assault in 2011 that constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the case constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the case was constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the case was still constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the case was still before constable Kane's assault in 2011 that the case was still before the that the case was still before the court that the case was still before the court - that the case was still before the court - and that the case was still before the court - and if that the case was still before the court - and if so, that the case was still before the court - and if so, what that the case was still before the court - and if so, what has that the case was still before the court - and if so, what has changed court - and if so, what has changed between court - and if so, what has changed between then court - and if so, what has changed between then and court - and if so, what has changed between then and now court - and if so, what has changed between then and now when court - and if so, what has changed between then and now when she court - and if so, what has changed between then and now when she claims between then and now when she claims she between then and now when she claims she can't between then and now when she claims she can't comment between then and now when she claims she can't comment at between then and now when she claims she can't comment at all? between then and now when she claims she can't comment at all? 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Thank you, Mr Speaker. What make these - them two suspect one. Thank you, Mr Speaker. What make these - them two different What make these - them two different cases What make these - them two different cases when, What make these - them two different cases when, in What make these - them two different cases when, in fact, What make these - them two different cases when, in fact, they What make these - them two different cases when, in fact, they involve cases when, in fact, they involve the cases when, in fact, they involve the same cases when, in fact, they involve the same police cases when, in fact, they involve the same police officer cases when, in fact, they involve the same police officer and cases when, in fact, they involve the same police officer and the cases when, in fact, they involve the same police officer and the same the same police officer and the same charge the same police officer and the same charge but the same police officer and the same charge but only the same police officer and the same charge but only five the same police officer and the same charge but only five years the same police officer and the same charge but only five years apart? charge but only five years apart? 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But as that member knows, it would be that member knows, it would be inappropriate that member knows, it would be inappropriate for that member knows, it would be inappropriate for the that member knows, it would be inappropriate for the Minister that member knows, it would be inappropriate for the Minister of inappropriate for the Minister of Police inappropriate for the Minister of Police to inappropriate for the Minister of Police to interfere inappropriate for the Minister of Police to interfere in inappropriate for the Minister of Police to interfere in the inappropriate for the Minister of Police to interfere in the judicial Police to interfere in the judicial process. Police to interfere in the judicial process. Totally. Police to interfere in the judicial process. Totally. <INTERRUPTION> process. Totally. <INTERRUPTION> What's process. Totally. <INTERRUPTION> What's the process. Totally. <INTERRUPTION> What's the difference! process. 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When will she and the PM deliver face-value, wouldn't you? When will she and the PM deliver on face-value, wouldn't you? 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Question which would be of interest to that member. Question No. which would be of interest to that member. Question No. 12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: the Environment: Does the Environment: Does he the Environment: Does he accept the Environment: Does he accept that the Environment: Does he accept that consultation Does he accept that consultation with Does he accept that consultation with Maori Does he accept that consultation with Maori was Does he accept that consultation with Maori was inadequate Does he accept that consultation with Maori was inadequate prior Does he accept that consultation with Maori was inadequate prior to with Maori was inadequate prior to the with Maori was inadequate prior to the announcement with Maori was inadequate prior to the announcement of with Maori was inadequate prior to the announcement of the with Maori was inadequate prior to the announcement of the Kermadec the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; if the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; if so, the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; if so, will the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; if so, will he the announcement of the Kermadec Sanctuary; if so, will he now Sanctuary; if so, will he now apologise Sanctuary; if so, will he now apologise for Sanctuary; if so, will he now apologise for that Sanctuary; if so, will he now apologise for that mistake? No, No, I No, I do No, I do note No, I do note the No, I do note the member's No, I do note the member's party No, I do note the member's party committed No, I do note the member's party committed to No, I do note the member's party committed to establishing No, I do note the member's party committed to establishing the committed to establishing the sanctuary committed to establishing the sanctuary in committed to establishing the sanctuary in 2014 committed to establishing the sanctuary in 2014 prior committed to establishing the sanctuary in 2014 prior to committed to establishing the sanctuary in 2014 prior to any sanctuary in 2014 prior to any consultation sanctuary in 2014 prior to any consultation with sanctuary in 2014 prior to any consultation with iwi sanctuary in 2014 prior to any consultation with iwi or sanctuary in 2014 prior to any consultation with iwi or TOKM. consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! To consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! To the consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! To the Minister consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! To the Minister - consultation with iwi or TOKM. Order! To the Minister - what Order! To the Minister - what compromise Order! To the Minister - what compromise is Order! To the Minister - what compromise is he Order! To the Minister - what compromise is he offering Order! To the Minister - what compromise is he offering if Order! To the Minister - what compromise is he offering if any compromise is he offering if any that compromise is he offering if any that would compromise is he offering if any that would allow compromise is he offering if any that would allow the compromise is he offering if any that would allow the Kermadec that would allow the Kermadec Sanctuary that would allow the Kermadec Sanctuary to that would allow the Kermadec Sanctuary to go that would allow the Kermadec Sanctuary to go ahead that would allow the Kermadec Sanctuary to go ahead without Sanctuary to go ahead without running Sanctuary to go ahead without running roughshod Sanctuary to go ahead without running roughshod over Sanctuary to go ahead without running roughshod over Maori Sanctuary to go ahead without running roughshod over Maori fishing running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? Mr running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? Mr Speaker, running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? Mr Speaker, if running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? Mr Speaker, if you're running roughshod over Maori fishing rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have an rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have an ocean rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have an ocean sanctuary, rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have an ocean sanctuary, it rights? Mr Speaker, if you're going to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area in to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area in which to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area in which there to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area in which there is to have an ocean sanctuary, it needs to be an area in which there is not to be an area in which there is not mining to be an area in which there is not mining or to be an area in which there is not mining or fishing to be an area in which there is not mining or fishing for to be an area in which there is not mining or fishing for it to be an area in which there is not mining or fishing for it to to be an area in which there is not mining or fishing for it to have mining or fishing for it to have integrity. mining or fishing for it to have integrity. 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After running aground yet another Government policy, will he another Government policy, will he excuse another Government policy, will he excuse himself another Government policy, will he excuse himself from another Government policy, will he excuse himself from further excuse himself from further negotiations excuse himself from further another negotiations with <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So that <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So that the <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So that the Kermadec <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So that the Kermadec sanctuary <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So that the Kermadec sanctuary can So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? Or So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? Or will So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? Or will he So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? Or will he go So that the Kermadec sanctuary can go ahead? 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I think the reality is and there has been some controversy. I think the reality is that and there has been some controversy. I think the reality is that people I think the reality is that people are I think the reality is that people are reluctant I think the reality is that people are reluctant to I think the reality is that people are reluctant to give I think the reality is that people are reluctant to give up I think the reality is that people are reluctant to give up their are reluctant to give up their rights are reluctant to give up their rights to are reluctant to give up their rights to mine, are reluctant to give up their rights to mine, to are reluctant to give up their rights to mine, to recreationally rights to mine, to recreationally fish rights to mine, to recreationally fish or rights to mine, to recreationally fish or to rights to mine, to recreationally fish or to commercially rights to mine, to recreationally fish or to commercially fish rights to mine, to recreationally fish or to commercially fish and rights to mine, to recreationally fish or to commercially fish and I'm fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally confident fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally confident in fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally confident in this fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally confident in this case, fish or to commercially fish and I'm equally confident in this case, that equally confident in this case, that in equally confident in this case, that in time equally confident in this case, that in time we'll equally confident in this case, that in time we'll find equally confident in this case, that in time we'll find a equally confident in this case, that in time we'll find a solution. equally confident in this case, that in time we'll find a solution. That in time we'll find a solution. That concludes in time we'll find a solution. That concludes Oral in time we'll find a solution. That concludes Oral Questions. in time we'll find a solution. That concludes Oral Questions. I in time we'll find a solution. That concludes Oral Questions. I call on on Government on Government Order on Government Order of on Government Order of the on Government Order of the Day on Government Order of the Day No. on Government Order of the Day No. 1. on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Land on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Land Transport on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Land Transport Amendment on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, first 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, first reading. 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, first reading. The 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, first reading. The Hon 1. Land Transport Amendment Bill, first reading. The Hon Craig 1. 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