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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. A A petition A petition has A petition has been A petition has been delivered A petition has been delivered to A petition has been delivered to the A petition has been delivered to the Clerk A petition has been delivered to the Clerk for A petition has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. 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That That petition That petition stands That petition stands referred That petition stands referred to That petition stands referred to a That petition stands referred to a select That petition stands referred to a select committee That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated by That petition stands referred to a select committee allocated by the select committee allocated by the Clerk. select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers have select committee allocated by the Clerk. Ministers have delivered Clerk. Ministers have delivered papers. Annual Annual Report Annual Report of Land Land Information Land Information Annual Land Information Annual Report Land Information Annual Report of Land Information Annual Report of NZ Land Information Annual Report of NZ 2015-2016, Land Information Annual Report of NZ 2015-2016, including Land Information Annual Report of NZ 2015-2016, including Strategic 2015-2016, including Strategic 2016-2020. 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I also present the 2015/16 Annual Report for Maori reports. I also present the 2015/16 Annual Report of for Maori reports. I also present the 2015/16 Annual Report of the the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the Clerk the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the Clerk orf the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the Clerk orf the the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the Clerk orf the House the 2015/16 Annual Report of the Office of the Clerk orf the House of Office of the Clerk orf the House of Representatives. Office of the Clerk orf the House of Representatives. Those Office of the Clerk orf the House of Representatives. Those papers Office of the Clerk orf the House of Representatives. Those papers are Representatives. Those papers are published Representatives. Those papers are published under Representatives. 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The Clerk has been informed of have been presented. The Clerk has been informed of the have been presented. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction have been presented. The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of been informed of the introduction of bills. 191-1 191-1 Regulatory 191-1 Regulatory Systems 191-1 Regulatory Systems (Building 191-1 Regulatory Systems (Building And 191-1 Regulatory Systems (Building And Housing) 191-1 Regulatory Systems (Building And Housing) Amendment 191-1 Regulatory Systems (Building And Housing) Amendment Bill. And Housing) Amendment Bill. 187-1 And Housing) Amendment Bill. 187-1 Regulatory And Housing) Amendment Bill. 187-1 Regulatory Systems And Housing) Amendment Bill. 187-1 Regulatory Systems (Workplace 187-1 Regulatory Systems (Workplace Relations) 187-1 Regulatory Systems (Workplace Relations) Amendment 187-1 Regulatory Systems (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill. Relations) Amendment Bill. 183-1 Relations) Amendment Bill. 183-1 Regulatory Relations) Amendment Bill. 183-1 Regulatory Systems Relations) Amendment Bill. 183-1 Regulatory Systems (Commercial 183-1 Regulatory Systems (Commercial Matter) 183-1 Regulatory Systems (Commercial Matter) Amendment 183-1 Regulatory Systems (Commercial Matter) Amendment Bill. Those Those bills Those bills are Those bills are set Those bills are set down Those bills are set down for Those bills are set down for first Those bills are set down for first reading. Those bills are set down for first reading. The Those bills are set down for first reading. The House Those bills are set down for first reading. The House comes Those bills are set down for first reading. The House comes to Those bills are set down for first reading. The House comes to Oral reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1 in the Questions. Question No. 1 in the name Questions. Question No. 1 in the name of Questions. Question No. 1 in the name of Andrew Questions. Question No. 1 in the name of Andrew Little. 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It feasible to give a comprehensive list of which will be missed. It is list of which will be missed. It is important list of which will be missed. It is important not list of which will be missed. It is important not to list of which will be missed. It is important not to make list of which will be missed. It is important not to make judgements list of which will be missed. It is important not to make judgements too important not to make judgements too early important not to make judgements too early though important not to make judgements too early though as important not to make judgements too early though as the important not to make judgements too early though as the member important not to make judgements too early though as the member found early though as the member found when early though as the member found when he early though as the member found when he described early though as the member found when he described the early though as the member found when he described the 2014/15 early though as the member found when he described the 2014/15 budget when he described the 2014/15 budget surplus when he described the 2014/15 budget surplus target when he described the 2014/15 budget surplus target as when he described the 2014/15 budget surplus target as "the when he described the 2014/15 budget surplus target as "the greatest surplus target as "the greatest political surplus target as "the greatest political deception surplus target as "the greatest political deception of surplus target as "the greatest political deception of a surplus target as "the greatest political deception of a lifetime", political deception of a lifetime", how political deception of a lifetime", how wrong political deception of a lifetime", how wrong he political deception of a lifetime", how wrong he was. political deception of a lifetime", how wrong he was. Supplementary how wrong he was. Supplementary question, how wrong he was. Supplementary question, Andrew how wrong he was. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. how wrong he was. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Does how wrong he was. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Does he question, Andrew Little. Does he stand question, Andrew Little. Does he stand by question, Andrew Little. Does he stand by his question, Andrew Little. Does he stand by his statement question, Andrew Little. Does he stand by his statement that question, Andrew Little. Does he stand by his statement that "we've stand by his statement that "we've set stand by his statement that "we've set targets stand by his statement that "we've set targets within stand by his statement that "we've set targets within the stand by his statement that "we've set targets within the Auckland set targets within the Auckland accord set targets within the Auckland accord to set targets within the Auckland accord to ensure set targets within the Auckland accord to ensure the set targets within the Auckland accord to ensure the city's set targets within the Auckland accord to ensure the city's housing accord to ensure the city's housing supply accord to ensure the city's housing supply and accord to ensure the city's housing supply and affordability accord to ensure the city's housing supply and affordability issues accord to ensure the city's housing supply and affordability issues are supply and affordability issues are addressed" supply and affordability issues are addressed" and supply and affordability issues are addressed" and if supply and affordability issues are addressed" and if so supply and affordability issues are addressed" and if so what supply and affordability issues are addressed" and if so what proportion addressed" and if so what proportion of addressed" and if so what proportion of houses addressed" and if so what proportion of houses in addressed" and if so what proportion of houses in Special addressed" and if so what proportion of houses in Special Housing addressed" and if so what proportion of houses in Special Housing Areas of houses in Special Housing Areas need of houses in Special Housing Areas need to of houses in Special Housing Areas need to be of houses in Special Housing Areas need to be affordable of houses in Special Housing Areas need to be affordable to of houses in Special Housing Areas need to be affordable to meet of houses in Special Housing Areas need to be affordable to meet that need to be affordable to meet that target? need to be affordable to meet that target? In need to be affordable to meet that target? In answer need to be affordable to meet that target? In answer to need to be affordable to meet that target? In answer to the need to be affordable to meet that target? In answer to the first need to be affordable to meet that target? In answer to the first part target? In answer to the first part of target? In answer to the first part of the target? In answer to the first part of the question, target? In answer to the first part of the question, yes, target? In answer to the first part of the question, yes, and target? In answer to the first part of the question, yes, and in target? 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After three years what's the minimum number of years what's the minimum number of affordable years what's the minimum number of affordable houses years what's the minimum number of affordable houses in years what's the minimum number of affordable houses in Auckland affordable houses in Auckland Special affordable houses in Auckland Special Housing affordable houses in Auckland Special Housing Areas affordable houses in Auckland Special Housing Areas sold affordable houses in Auckland Special Housing Areas sold to affordable houses in Auckland Special Housing Areas sold to first Special Housing Areas sold to first home Special Housing Areas sold to first home buyers Special Housing Areas sold to first home buyers that Special Housing Areas sold to first home buyers that would Special Housing Areas sold to first home buyers that would be Special Housing Areas sold to first home buyers that would be acceptable home buyers that would be acceptable to home buyers that would be acceptable to him? home buyers that would be acceptable to him? 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Zealanders into buying a first home. Order! Zealanders into buying a first home. Order! Supplementary Zealanders into buying a first home. Order! Supplementary question. Zealanders into buying a first home. Order! Supplementary question. Of Order! Supplementary question. Of the Order! Supplementary question. Of the roughly Order! Supplementary question. Of the roughly 1,400 Order! Supplementary question. Of the roughly 1,400 houses Order! Supplementary question. Of the roughly 1,400 houses completed the roughly 1,400 houses completed in the roughly 1,400 houses completed in Auckland's the roughly 1,400 houses completed in Auckland's Special the roughly 1,400 houses completed in Auckland's Special Housing the roughly 1,400 houses completed in Auckland's Special Housing Areas in Auckland's Special Housing Areas how in Auckland's Special Housing Areas how many in Auckland's Special Housing Areas how many have in Auckland's Special Housing Areas how many have been in Auckland's Special Housing Areas how many have been affordable how many have been affordable according how many have been affordable according to how many have been affordable according to the how many have been affordable according to the definition how many have been affordable according to the definition in how many have been affordable according to the definition in the according to the definition in the housing according to the definition in the housing accord? according to the definition in the housing accord? 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I seek leave to table a letter from the leave to table a letter from the Auckland leave to table a letter from the Auckland Council leave to table a letter from the Auckland Council to leave to table a letter from the Auckland Council to my leave to table a letter from the Auckland Council to my office leave to table a letter from the Auckland Council to my office dated Auckland Council to my office dated 5 Auckland Council to my office dated 5 October Auckland Council to my office dated 5 October 2016 Auckland Council to my office dated 5 October 2016 showing Auckland Council to my office dated 5 October 2016 showing that Auckland Council to my office dated 5 October 2016 showing that 18 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable houses 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable houses have 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable houses have been 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable houses have been sold 5 October 2016 showing that 18 affordable houses have been sold to affordable houses have been sold to first affordable houses have been sold to first home affordable houses have been sold to first home buyers affordable houses have been sold to first home buyers in affordable houses have been sold to first home buyers in Auckland first home buyers in Auckland Special first home buyers in Auckland Special Housing first home buyers in Auckland Special Housing Areas. first home buyers in Auckland Special Housing Areas. Order! first home buyers in Auckland Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is sought Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is sought to Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is sought to table Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is sought to table that Special Housing Areas. Order! Leave is sought to table that particular is sought to table that particular letter is sought to table that particular letter from is sought to table that particular letter from the is sought to table that particular letter from the council is sought to table that particular letter from the council to is sought to table that particular letter from the council to Mr letter from the council to Mr Little. letter from the council to Mr Little. Is letter from the council to Mr Little. Is there letter from the council to Mr Little. Is there any letter from the council to Mr Little. Is there any objection letter from the council to Mr Little. Is there any objection to letter from the council to Mr Little. Is there any objection to it Little. Is there any objection to it being Little. Is there any objection to it being tabled? Little. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There Little. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is Little. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is objection. being tabled? There is objection. Supplementary. being tabled? There is objection. Supplementary. Order! being tabled? There is objection. Supplementary. Order! I being tabled? There is objection. Supplementary. Order! I put being tabled? There is objection. Supplementary. Order! I put the Supplementary. Order! I put the leave, Supplementary. Order! I put the leave, objection Supplementary. Order! I put the leave, objection was Supplementary. Order! I put the leave, objection was given Supplementary. Order! I put the leave, objection was given but leave, objection was given but there's leave, objection was given but there's no leave, objection was given but there's no need leave, objection was given but there's no need to leave, objection was given but there's no need to further leave, objection was given but there's no need to further explain there's no need to further explain why there's no need to further explain why the there's no need to further explain why the objection there's no need to further explain why the objection was there's no need to further explain why the objection was given. why the objection was given. Supplementary why the objection was given. Supplementary question why the objection was given. Supplementary question Andrew Supplementary question Andrew Little. Supplementary question Andrew Little. Thank Supplementary question Andrew Little. Thank you, Supplementary question Andrew Little. Thank you, Mr Supplementary question Andrew Little. 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I recall reading the front page of the herald on Monday where page of the herald on Monday where the page of the herald on Monday where the Minister page of the herald on Monday where the Minister of page of the herald on Monday where the Minister of Finance page of the herald on Monday where the Minister of Finance was page of the herald on Monday where the Minister of Finance was quoted the Minister of Finance was quoted about the Minister of Finance was quoted about the the Minister of Finance was quoted about the extensive the Minister of Finance was quoted about the extensive number the Minister of Finance was quoted about the extensive number of the Minister of Finance was quoted about the extensive number of to about the extensive number of to affordable about the extensive number of to affordable properties about the extensive number of to affordable properties that about the extensive number of to affordable properties that will about the extensive number of to affordable properties that will be affordable properties that will be sold affordable properties that will be sold as affordable properties that will be sold as a affordable properties that will be sold as a result affordable properties that will be sold as a result of affordable properties that will be sold as a result of the sold as a result of the redevelopment sold as a result of the redevelopment of sold as a result of the redevelopment of Housing sold as a result of the redevelopment of Housing New sold as a result of the redevelopment of Housing New Zealand redevelopment of Housing New Zealand projects. redevelopment of Housing New Zealand projects. . redevelopment of Housing New Zealand projects. . 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But Mr believes a whole lot of dodgy numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes and numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes and has numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes and has a numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes and has a look numbers sometimes. But Mr Speaker, if one goes and has a look at numbers sometimes. 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In policy has been a complete and unmitigated disaster. In answer policy has been a complete and unmitigated disaster. In answer to unmitigated disaster. In answer to the unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last part unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last part of unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last part of the unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last part of the question unmitigated disaster. In answer to the last part of the question no, unmitigated disaster. 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Order! that voted for Andrew Little to be the leader. Order! Question that voted for Andrew Little to be the leader. Order! Question No. that voted for Andrew Little to be the leader. Order! Question No. 2. the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! I've the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! I've just the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! I've just asked the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! I've just asked for the leader. Order! Question No. 2. Order! I've just asked for some Order! I've just asked for some cooperation Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from my Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from my left. Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from my left. I Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from my left. I will Order! I've just asked for some cooperation from my left. I will get cooperation from my left. I will get her cooperation from my left. I will get her severe if if I if I have if I have to if I have to with if I have to with reluctance. if if I if I have if I have to if I have to with if I have to with reluctance. if I have to with reluctance. My if I have to with reluctance. My question if I have to with reluctance. My question is if I have to with reluctance. My question is to if I have to with reluctance. My question is to the if I have to with reluctance. My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: <SPEAKS Minister: <SPEAKS IN Minister: <SPEAKS IN TE Minister: <SPEAKS IN TE REO Minister: <SPEAKS IN TE REO MAORI>? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Does Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Does the Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Does the PM Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Does the PM still Mr Speaker, yes. Supplementary question. Does the PM still believe question. Does the PM still believe as question. Does the PM still believe as he question. Does the PM still believe as he said question. Does the PM still believe as he said in question. Does the PM still believe as he said in the question. Does the PM still believe as he said in the house question. Does the PM still believe as he said in the house yesterday as he said in the house yesterday that as he said in the house yesterday that it as he said in the house yesterday that it is as he said in the house yesterday that it is better as he said in the house yesterday that it is better and as he said in the house yesterday that it is better and more as he said in the house yesterday that it is better and more effective that it is better and more effective for that it is better and more effective for the that it is better and more effective for the Government that it is better and more effective for the Government to that it is better and more effective for the Government to set that it is better and more effective for the Government to set individual for the Government to set individual targets for the Government to set individual targets on for the Government to set individual targets on components for the Government to set individual targets on components of for the Government to set individual targets on components of child targets on components of child poverty targets on components of child poverty rather targets on components of child poverty rather than targets on components of child poverty rather than a targets on components of child poverty rather than a specific targets on components of child poverty rather than a specific child poverty rather than a specific child poverty poverty rather than a specific child poverty reduction poverty rather than a specific child poverty reduction target? poverty rather than a specific child poverty reduction target? Mr poverty reduction target? Mr Speaker, poverty reduction target? Mr Speaker, yes. poverty reduction target? Mr Speaker, yes. A poverty reduction target? Mr Speaker, yes. A supplementary Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Metiria Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Metiria Turei. Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Metiria Turei. When Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Metiria Turei. When the Speaker, yes. A supplementary question, Metiria Turei. When the PM question, Metiria Turei. When the PM talked question, Metiria Turei. When the PM talked yesterday question, Metiria Turei. When the PM talked yesterday about question, Metiria Turei. When the PM talked yesterday about the question, Metiria Turei. 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Mr indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, yes, indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, yes, but indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, yes, but that indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, yes, but that is indicators, including both of those? Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, isn't Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, isn't it? Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, isn't it? On Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, isn't it? On Monday Mr Speaker, yes, but that is exactly the point, isn't it? On Monday or the point, isn't it? On Monday or last the point, isn't it? On Monday or last week the point, isn't it? On Monday or last week the the point, isn't it? On Monday or last week the member the point, isn't it? On Monday or last week the member was the point, isn't it? On Monday or last week the member was saying the point, isn't it? 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We are doing that in terms of the number of children fever. We are doing that in terms of the number of children being the number of children being immunised. the number of children being immunised. We the number of children being immunised. We are the number of children being immunised. We are doing the number of children being immunised. We are doing that the number of children being immunised. We are doing that in immunised. We are doing that in terms immunised. We are doing that in terms of immunised. We are doing that in terms of the immunised. We are doing that in terms of the number immunised. We are doing that in terms of the number of immunised. We are doing that in terms of the number of children terms of the number of children having terms of the number of children having access terms of the number of children having access to terms of the number of children having access to early terms of the number of children having access to early childhood having access to early childhood education. having access to early childhood education. We having access to early childhood education. We are having access to early childhood education. We are doing having access to early childhood education. We are doing that having access to early childhood education. We are doing that in education. We are doing that in terms education. We are doing that in terms of education. We are doing that in terms of number education. We are doing that in terms of number of education. We are doing that in terms of number of teenage education. We are doing that in terms of number of teenage pregnancy terms of number of teenage pregnancy and terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young mens terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young mens on terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young mens on the terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young mens on the equivalent terms of number of teenage pregnancy and young mens on the equivalent of and young mens on the equivalent of Domestic and young mens on the equivalent of Domestic Purposes and young mens on the equivalent of Domestic Purposes Benefit. and young mens on the equivalent of Domestic Purposes Benefit. I and young mens on the equivalent of Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it is Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it is far Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it is far more Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it is far more sensible Domestic Purposes Benefit. I think it is far more sensible for Domestic Purposes Benefit. 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Mr children and serious skin infections. . Mr Speaker, children and serious skin infections. . Mr Speaker, I children and serious skin infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt children and serious skin infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we would infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we would have infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we would have an infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we would have an individual infections. . Mr Speaker, I doubt we would have an individual Better would have an individual Better Public would have an individual Better Public Service would have an individual Better Public Service target would have an individual Better Public Service target for would have an individual Better Public Service target for each would have an individual Better Public Service target for each one Public Service target for each one other Public Service target for each one other else Public Service target for each one other else there Public Service target for each one other else there would Public Service target for each one other else there would be Public Service target for each one other else there would be so Public Service target for each one other else there would be so many other else there would be so many individual other else there would be so many individual targets other else there would be so many individual targets it other else there would be so many individual targets it might other else there would be so many individual targets it might lose individual targets it might lose some individual targets it might lose some of individual targets it might lose some of its individual targets it might lose some of its meaning. individual targets it might lose some of its meaning. 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When the PM is refusing to radar and all are getting attention. When the PM is refusing to establish When the PM is refusing to establish either When the PM is refusing to establish either official When the PM is refusing to establish either official benefits When the PM is refusing to establish either official benefits of When the PM is refusing to establish either official benefits of child either official benefits of child poverty either official benefits of child poverty and either official benefits of child poverty and also either official benefits of child poverty and also won't either official benefits of child poverty and also won't set either official benefits of child poverty and also won't set targets poverty and also won't set targets for poverty and also won't set targets for a poverty and also won't set targets for a comprehensive poverty and also won't set targets for a comprehensive list poverty and also won't set targets for a comprehensive list of poverty and also won't set targets for a comprehensive list of child for a comprehensive list of child poverty-related for a comprehensive list of child poverty-related outcomes for a comprehensive list of child poverty-related outcomes isn't for a comprehensive list of child poverty-related outcomes isn't he poverty-related outcomes isn't he really poverty-related outcomes isn't he really telling poverty-related outcomes isn't he really telling the poverty-related outcomes isn't he really telling the country poverty-related outcomes isn't he really telling the country that poverty-related outcomes isn't he really telling the country that he really telling the country that he will really telling the country that he will avoid really telling the country that he will avoid any really telling the country that he will avoid any attempt really telling the country that he will avoid any attempt to really telling the country that he will avoid any attempt to identify, will avoid any attempt to identify, to will avoid any attempt to identify, to measure, will avoid any attempt to identify, to measure, or will avoid any attempt to identify, to measure, or to will avoid any attempt to identify, to measure, or to reduce will avoid any attempt to identify, to measure, or to reduce child to measure, or to reduce child poverty to measure, or to reduce child poverty in to measure, or to reduce child poverty in New to measure, or to reduce child poverty in New Zealand? to measure, or to reduce child poverty in New Zealand? Quite to measure, or to reduce child poverty in New Zealand? Quite the poverty in New Zealand? Quite the opposite. poverty in New Zealand? Quite the opposite. This poverty in New Zealand? Quite the opposite. This is poverty in New Zealand? Quite the opposite. This is the poverty in New Zealand? Quite the opposite. This is the first opposite. This is the first Government opposite. This is the first Government in opposite. This is the first Government in the opposite. This is the first Government in the history opposite. This is the first Government in the history of opposite. This is the first Government in the history of this Government in the history of this parliament Government in the history of this parliament that's Government in the history of this parliament that's had Government in the history of this parliament that's had a Government in the history of this parliament that's had a list Government in the history of this parliament that's had a list of parliament that's had a list of better parliament that's had a list of better public parliament that's had a list of better public service parliament that's had a list of better public service targets parliament that's had a list of better public service targets and better public service targets and been better public service targets and been quite better public service targets and been quite happy better public service targets and been quite happy to better public service targets and been quite happy to be better public service targets and been quite happy to be measured been quite happy to be measured against been quite happy to be measured against them been quite happy to be measured against them and been quite happy to be measured against them and has been quite happy to be measured against them and has set been quite happy to be measured against them and has set those against them and has set those targets against them and has set those targets as against them and has set those targets as child against them and has set those targets as child challenging against them and has set those targets as child challenging areas. targets as child challenging areas. The targets as child challenging areas. The Government targets as child challenging areas. The Government produces targets as child challenging areas. The Government produces a targets as child challenging areas. The Government produces a raft targets as child challenging areas. The Government produces a raft of The Government produces a raft of different The Government produces a raft of different measures The Government produces a raft of different measures and The Government produces a raft of different measures and reports The Government produces a raft of different measures and reports in different measures and reports in relation different measures and reports in relation to different measures and reports in relation to poverty different measures and reports in relation to poverty and different measures and reports in relation to poverty and income, relation to poverty and income, including relation to poverty and income, including the relation to poverty and income, including the longitudinal relation to poverty and income, including the longitudinal study relation to poverty and income, including the longitudinal study by including the longitudinal study by Brian including the longitudinal study by Brian Pirey including the longitudinal study by Brian Pirey that including the longitudinal study by Brian Pirey that shows including the longitudinal study by Brian Pirey that shows income including the longitudinal study by Brian Pirey that shows income and Brian Pirey that shows income and poverty Brian Pirey that shows income and poverty isn't Brian Pirey that shows income and poverty isn't getting Brian Pirey that shows income and poverty isn't getting worse. 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Mr Speaker, it's of different measures. Mr Speaker, it's not of different measures. Mr Speaker, it's not - of different measures. Mr Speaker, it's not - this of different measures. Mr Speaker, it's not - this Government's of different measures. Mr Speaker, it's not - this Government's long it's not - this Government's long standing it's not - this Government's long standing advice it's not - this Government's long standing advice from it's not - this Government's long standing advice from officials it's not - this Government's long standing advice from officials that standing advice from officials that one standing advice from officials that one single standing advice from officials that one single measure standing advice from officials that one single measure of standing advice from officials that one single measure of poverty standing advice from officials that one single measure of poverty in one single measure of poverty in this one single measure of poverty in this country one single measure of poverty in this country would one single measure of poverty in this country would be one single measure of poverty in this country would be an one single measure of poverty in this country would be an appropriate this country would be an appropriate way this country would be an appropriate way of this country would be an appropriate way of dealing this country would be an appropriate way of dealing with this country would be an appropriate way of dealing with it. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: What Finance: What reports Finance: What reports has Finance: What reports has he What reports has he received What reports has he received on What reports has he received on household What reports has he received on household debt? 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Overall than household savings growth. Overall Treasury than household savings growth. Overall Treasury concludes than household savings growth. Overall Treasury concludes that Overall Treasury concludes that household Overall Treasury concludes that household debt Overall Treasury concludes that household debt levels Overall Treasury concludes that household debt levels remain household debt levels remain manageable. household debt levels remain manageable. What household debt levels remain manageable. What are household debt levels remain manageable. What are some household debt levels remain manageable. What are some of household debt levels remain manageable. What are some of the manageable. What are some of the factors manageable. What are some of the factors that manageable. What are some of the factors that The manageable. What are some of the factors that The Treasury manageable. What are some of the factors that The Treasury points manageable. What are some of the factors that The Treasury points to factors that The Treasury points to as factors that The Treasury points to as mitigating factors that The Treasury points to as mitigating risk factors that The Treasury points to as mitigating risk from factors that The Treasury points to as mitigating risk from rising as mitigating risk from rising household as mitigating risk from rising household debt? as mitigating risk from rising household debt? Well, as mitigating risk from rising household debt? Well, Mr as mitigating risk from rising household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, as mitigating risk from rising household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it is household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it is pretty household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it is pretty much household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it is pretty much common household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, I think it is pretty much common sense think it is pretty much common sense that think it is pretty much common sense that households think it is pretty much common sense that households who think it is pretty much common sense that households who are think it is pretty much common sense that households who are borrowing that households who are borrowing very that households who are borrowing very large that households who are borrowing very large amounts that households who are borrowing very large amounts of that households who are borrowing very large amounts of money that households who are borrowing very large amounts of money against very large amounts of money against uncertain very large amounts of money against uncertain incomes very large amounts of money against uncertain incomes and very large amounts of money against uncertain incomes and assuming very large amounts of money against uncertain incomes and assuming that uncertain incomes and assuming that interest uncertain incomes and assuming that interest rates uncertain incomes and assuming that interest rates will uncertain incomes and assuming that interest rates will stay uncertain incomes and assuming that interest rates will stay where uncertain incomes and assuming that interest rates will stay where they interest rates will stay where they are interest rates will stay where they are are interest rates will stay where they are are taking interest rates will stay where they are are taking a interest rates will stay where they are are taking a risk. interest rates will stay where they are are taking a risk. Treasury interest rates will stay where they are are taking a risk. Treasury set are are taking a risk. Treasury set out are are taking a risk. Treasury set out reasons are are taking a risk. Treasury set out reasons for are are taking a risk. Treasury set out reasons for why are are taking a risk. Treasury set out reasons for why for are are taking a risk. Treasury set out reasons for why for many out reasons for why for many householders out reasons for why for many householders the out reasons for why for many householders the debt out reasons for why for many householders the debt would out reasons for why for many householders the debt would be out reasons for why for many householders the debt would be less householders the debt would be less of householders the debt would be less of a householders the debt would be less of a concern. householders the debt would be less of a concern. That householders the debt would be less of a concern. That is householders the debt would be less of a concern. That is currently householders the debt would be less of a concern. That is currently low of a concern. That is currently low interest of a concern. That is currently low interest rates of a concern. That is currently low interest rates mean of a concern. That is currently low interest rates mean that of a concern. That is currently low interest rates mean that debt interest rates mean that debt services interest rates mean that debt services rates, interest rates mean that debt services rates, that interest rates mean that debt services rates, that is interest rates mean that debt services rates, that is the services rates, that is the proportion services rates, that is the proportion of services rates, that is the proportion of household services rates, that is the proportion of household income services rates, that is the proportion of household income spent proportion of household income spent on proportion of household income spent on interest, proportion of household income spent on interest, are proportion of household income spent on interest, are well proportion of household income spent on interest, are well below proportion of household income spent on interest, are well below the on interest, are well below the peaked on interest, are well below the peaked reached on interest, are well below the peaked reached in on interest, are well below the peaked reached in 2008. on interest, are well below the peaked reached in 2008. In on interest, are well below the peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 households peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 households spent peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 households spent 14% peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 households spent 14% of peaked reached in 2008. In 2008 households spent 14% of their households spent 14% of their incomes households spent 14% of their incomes paying households spent 14% of their incomes paying interest. households spent 14% of their incomes paying interest. Today households spent 14% of their incomes paying interest. Today they incomes paying interest. Today they spent incomes paying interest. Today they spent just incomes paying interest. Today they spent just under incomes paying interest. Today they spent just under 9%. incomes paying interest. Today they spent just under 9%. They incomes paying interest. Today they spent just under 9%. They also incomes paying interest. Today they spent just under 9%. 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Supplementary question. How does since 1998. Supplementary question. How does New since 1998. Supplementary question. How does New Zealand's since 1998. Supplementary question. How does New Zealand's household How does New Zealand's household debt How does New Zealand's household debt compare How does New Zealand's household debt compare to How does New Zealand's household debt compare to household How does New Zealand's household debt compare to household debt How does New Zealand's household debt compare to household debt in debt compare to household debt in other debt compare to household debt in other OECD debt compare to household debt in other OECD countries? debt compare to household debt in other OECD countries? It debt compare to household debt in other OECD countries? It depends debt compare to household debt in other OECD countries? It depends a other OECD countries? It depends a bit other OECD countries? It depends a bit on other OECD countries? It depends a bit on which other OECD countries? It depends a bit on which measure other OECD countries? It depends a bit on which measure you other OECD countries? It depends a bit on which measure you use. other OECD countries? It depends a bit on which measure you use. Under bit on which measure you use. Under a bit on which measure you use. Under a definition bit on which measure you use. Under a definition of bit on which measure you use. Under a definition of debt bit on which measure you use. Under a definition of debt that bit on which measure you use. 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If household debt to income is in the middle of OECD. If you household debt to income is in the middle of OECD. If you include middle of OECD. If you include rental middle of OECD. If you include rental loans middle of OECD. If you include rental loans that middle of OECD. If you include rental loans that puts middle of OECD. If you include rental loans that puts New middle of OECD. If you include rental loans that puts New Zealand rental loans that puts New Zealand into rental loans that puts New Zealand into the rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top third. rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top third. So rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top third. So our rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top third. So our ratio rental loans that puts New Zealand into the top third. So our ratio is into the top third. So our ratio is 165%, into the top third. So our ratio is 165%, others into the top third. So our ratio is 165%, others such into the top third. So our ratio is 165%, others such as into the top third. So our ratio is 165%, others such as Australia, 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, Norway, 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, Norway, 211% 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, Norway, 211% and 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 165%, others such as Australia, 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 266%. 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 266%. Supplementary 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 266%. Supplementary question. 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 266%. Supplementary question. How 199%, Norway, 211% and Denmark 266%. Supplementary question. How are Supplementary question. How are higher Supplementary question. How are higher household Supplementary question. How are higher household incomes Supplementary question. How are higher household incomes and Supplementary question. How are higher household incomes and savings higher household incomes and savings helping higher household incomes and savings helping to higher household incomes and savings helping to offset higher household incomes and savings helping to offset risks higher household incomes and savings helping to offset risks associated helping to offset risks associated with helping to offset risks associated with household helping to offset risks associated with household debt? helping to offset risks associated with household debt? Well, helping to offset risks associated with household debt? Well, Mr with household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, with household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, probably with household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, probably an with household debt? Well, Mr Speaker, probably an unusual with household debt? 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That includes billion to $1.4 billion. That includes $64 billion to $1.4 billion. That includes $64 million billion to $1.4 billion. That includes $64 million as billion to $1.4 billion. That includes $64 million as part billion to $1.4 billion. That includes $64 million as part of billion to $1.4 billion. 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In light of that answer how does he account for Waikato DHP how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting on how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting on 24 how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting on 24 August how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting on 24 August "stream how does he account for Waikato DHP reporting on 24 August "stream risk reporting on 24 August "stream risk to reporting on 24 August "stream risk to patient reporting on 24 August "stream risk to patient safety" reporting on 24 August "stream risk to patient safety" because reporting on 24 August "stream risk to patient safety" because of reporting on 24 August "stream risk to patient safety" because of the to patient safety" because of the number to patient safety" because of the number of to patient safety" because of the number of patients to patient safety" because of the number of patients needing to patient safety" because of the number of patients needing treatment number of patients needing treatment had number of patients needing treatment had led number of patients needing treatment had led to number of patients needing treatment had led to "excessive number of patients needing treatment had led to "excessive wait number of patients needing treatment had led to "excessive wait times number of patients needing treatment had led to "excessive wait times for had led to "excessive wait times for emergency had led to "excessive wait times for emergency departments had led to "excessive wait times for emergency departments and had led to "excessive wait times for emergency departments and delay had led to "excessive wait times for emergency departments and delay with emergency departments and delay with assessment emergency departments and delay with assessment and emergency departments and delay with assessment and treatment. emergency departments and delay with assessment and treatment. 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As a result the tragedy in the Waikato. As a result the director tragedy in the Waikato. As a result the director of tragedy in the Waikato. As a result the director of mental tragedy in the Waikato. As a result the director of mental health tragedy in the Waikato. As a result the director of mental health went the director of mental health went there the director of mental health went there and the director of mental health went there and undertook the director of mental health went there and undertook an there and undertook an investigation. there and undertook an investigation. He there and undertook an investigation. He made there and undertook an investigation. He made a there and undertook an investigation. He made a series there and undertook an investigation. He made a series of investigation. He made a series of recommendations investigation. He made a series of recommendations which investigation. He made a series of recommendations which have investigation. He made a series of recommendations which have been recommendations which have been acted recommendations which have been acted on. recommendations which have been acted on. Mr recommendations which have been acted on. Mr Speaker, recommendations which have been acted on. Mr Speaker, I recommendations which have been acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek recommendations which have been acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table a acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table a memorandum acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table a memorandum from acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table a memorandum from the acted on. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table a memorandum from the board to table a memorandum from the board dated to table a memorandum from the board dated 24 to table a memorandum from the board dated 24 August, to table a memorandum from the board dated 24 August, well to table a memorandum from the board dated 24 August, well after to table a memorandum from the board dated 24 August, well after the dated 24 August, well after the event dated 24 August, well after the event and dated 24 August, well after the event and publicly dated 24 August, well after the event and publicly excluded. dated 24 August, well after the event and publicly excluded. So dated 24 August, well after the event and publicly excluded. So it event and publicly excluded. So it is event and publicly excluded. So it is not event and publicly excluded. So it is not available. event and publicly excluded. So it is not available. I event and publicly excluded. So it is not available. I got event and publicly excluded. 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There is none. that memorandum. Is there any objection? There is none. It that memorandum. Is there any objection? There is none. It can that memorandum. Is there any objection? There is none. It can be objection? There is none. It can be tabled. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Is objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Is he objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Is he aware objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Is he aware mental objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Is he aware mental health tabled. Is he aware mental health patients tabled. Is he aware mental health patients presenting tabled. Is he aware mental health patients presenting to tabled. 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Officials also advised me that DHBs have in place crisis that DHBs have in place crisis response that DHBs have in place crisis response teams that DHBs have in place crisis response teams that that DHBs have in place crisis response teams that will that DHBs have in place crisis response teams that will respond that DHBs have in place crisis response teams that will respond to response teams that will respond to psychological response teams that will respond to psychological emergencies response teams that will respond to psychological emergencies within response teams that will respond to psychological emergencies within a psychological emergencies within a target psychological emergencies within a target of psychological emergencies within a target of 24 psychological emergencies within a target of 24 hours. psychological emergencies within a target of 24 hours. Does psychological emergencies within a target of 24 hours. Does the target of 24 hours. Does the Government's target of 24 hours. Does the Government's allocated target of 24 hours. Does the Government's allocated funding target of 24 hours. Does the Government's allocated funding for Government's allocated funding for mental Government's allocated funding for mental health Government's allocated funding for mental health and Government's allocated funding for mental health and addiction Government's allocated funding for mental health and addiction services mental health and addiction services to mental health and addiction services to DHBs mental health and addiction services to DHBs fully mental health and addiction services to DHBs fully fund mental health and addiction services to DHBs fully fund their mental health and addiction services to DHBs fully fund their ring mental health and addiction services to DHBs fully fund their ring fence to DHBs fully fund their ring fence mental to DHBs fully fund their ring fence mental health to DHBs fully fund their ring fence mental health expenditure. to DHBs fully fund their ring fence mental health expenditure. Yes. to DHBs fully fund their ring fence mental health expenditure. Yes. Is mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury DHB mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury DHB a mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury DHB a beacon mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury DHB a beacon of mental health expenditure. Yes. Is Canterbury DHB a beacon of his Canterbury DHB a beacon of his success Canterbury DHB a beacon of his success in Canterbury DHB a beacon of his success in adequate Canterbury DHB a beacon of his success in adequate funding Canterbury DHB a beacon of his success in adequate funding for success in adequate funding for mental success in adequate funding for mental health success in adequate funding for mental health when success in adequate funding for mental health when they success in adequate funding for mental health when they revealed success in adequate funding for mental health when they revealed a mental health when they revealed a $23 mental health when they revealed a $23 million mental health when they revealed a $23 million shortfall mental health when they revealed a $23 million shortfall in mental health when they revealed a $23 million shortfall in mental $23 million shortfall in mental health $23 million shortfall in mental health funding $23 million shortfall in mental health funding this $23 million shortfall in mental health funding this year $23 million shortfall in mental health funding this year and $23 million shortfall in mental health funding this year and are $23 million shortfall in mental health funding this year and are now health funding this year and are now forecasting health funding this year and are now forecasting a health funding this year and are now forecasting a $37 health funding this year and are now forecasting a $37 million health funding this year and are now forecasting a $37 million deficit health funding this year and are now forecasting a $37 million deficit by forecasting a $37 million deficit by the forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the year forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the year with forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the year with one forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the year with one of forecasting a $37 million deficit by the end of the year with one of the the end of the year with one of the main the end of the year with one of the main reasons the end of the year with one of the main reasons being the end of the year with one of the main reasons being a the end of the year with one of the main reasons being a demand the end of the year with one of the main reasons being a demand in main reasons being a demand in mental main reasons being a demand in mental health main reasons being a demand in mental health services? main reasons being a demand in mental health services? I main reasons being a demand in mental health services? I don't mental health services? I don't accept mental health services? I don't accept the mental health services? I don't accept the member mental health services? I don't accept the member and mental health services? I don't accept the member and her accept the member and her interpretation accept the member and her interpretation of accept the member and her interpretation of those accept the member and her interpretation of those figures. accept the member and her interpretation of those figures. The interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury DHB interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury DHB budget interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury DHB budget went interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury DHB budget went up interpretation of those figures. The Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 million Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 million this Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 million this year. Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 million this year. The Canterbury DHB budget went up $44 million this year. The population million this year. The population statistics million this year. The population statistics we million this year. The population statistics we use million this year. The population statistics we use are million this year. The population statistics we use are those million this year. The population statistics we use are those prouted statistics we use are those prouted by statistics we use are those prouted by Statistics statistics we use are those prouted by Statistics NZ. statistics we use are those prouted by Statistics NZ. Funding statistics we use are those prouted by Statistics NZ. Funding in by Statistics NZ. Funding in Canterbury by Statistics NZ. 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There is a ring fence and Canterbury There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB has There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB has the There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB has the discretion There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB has the discretion to There is a ring fence and Canterbury DHB has the discretion to spend DHB has the discretion to spend extra DHB has the discretion to spend extra money DHB has the discretion to spend extra money on DHB has the discretion to spend extra money on mental DHB has the discretion to spend extra money on mental health. DHB has the discretion to spend extra money on mental health. On DHB has the discretion to spend extra money on mental health. On top extra money on mental health. On top of extra money on mental health. On top of that extra money on mental health. On top of that in extra money on mental health. On top of that in February extra money on mental health. On top of that in February the extra money on mental health. On top of that in February the Government of that in February the Government put of that in February the Government put an of that in February the Government put an extra of that in February the Government put an extra $20 of that in February the Government put an extra $20 million of that in February the Government put an extra $20 million for of that in February the Government put an extra $20 million for mental put an extra $20 million for mental health put an extra $20 million for mental health services. put an extra $20 million for mental health services. They put an extra $20 million for mental health services. They consulted put an extra $20 million for mental health services. They consulted the health services. They consulted the sector health services. They consulted the sector and health services. They consulted the sector and that health services. They consulted the sector and that was health services. They consulted the sector and that was widely health services. They consulted the sector and that was widely accepted sector and that was widely accepted and sector and that was widely accepted and so sector and that was widely accepted and so people sector and that was widely accepted and so people are sector and that was widely accepted and so people are not sector and that was widely accepted and so people are not missing sector and that was widely accepted and so people are not missing out sector and that was widely accepted and so people are not missing out on and so people are not missing out on mental and so people are not missing out on mental health and so people are not missing out on mental health services and so people are not missing out on mental health services in mental health services in Canterbury. mental health services in Canterbury. I mental health services in Canterbury. I seek mental health services in Canterbury. I seek leave mental health services in Canterbury. I seek leave to mental health services in Canterbury. I seek leave to table mental health services in Canterbury. I seek leave to table a Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter from Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter from the Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter from the Canterbury Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter from the Canterbury DHB Canterbury. I seek leave to table a letter from the Canterbury DHB under letter from the Canterbury DHB under the letter from the Canterbury DHB under the official letter from the Canterbury DHB under the official information letter from the Canterbury DHB under the official information act letter from the Canterbury DHB under the official information act showing the official information act showing the the official information act showing the $23 the official information act showing the $23 million the official information act showing the $23 million shortfall the official information act showing the $23 million shortfall this the official information act showing the $23 million shortfall this year the $23 million shortfall this year in the $23 million shortfall this year in mental the $23 million shortfall this year in mental health the $23 million shortfall this year in mental health funding, the $23 million shortfall this year in mental health funding, that the $23 million shortfall this year in mental health funding, that is in mental health funding, that is dated in mental health funding, that is dated 24 in mental health funding, that is dated 24 June in mental health funding, that is dated 24 June and in mental health funding, that is dated 24 June and the in mental health funding, that is dated 24 June and the second dated 24 June and the second document dated 24 June and the second document I dated 24 June and the second document I seek dated 24 June and the second document I seek is dated 24 June and the second document I seek is the dated 24 June and the second document I seek is the board dated 24 June and the second document I seek is the board minutes document I seek is the board minutes from document I seek is the board minutes from the document I seek is the board minutes from the Canterbury document I seek is the board minutes from the Canterbury DHB document I seek is the board minutes from the Canterbury DHB dated document I seek is the board minutes from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 September from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 September showing from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 September showing a from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 September showing a predicted from the Canterbury DHB dated 15 September showing a predicted $37 September showing a predicted $37 million September showing a predicted $37 million deficit September showing a predicted $37 million deficit for September showing a predicted $37 million deficit for this September showing a predicted $37 million deficit for this year. September showing a predicted $37 million deficit for this year. Can September showing a predicted $37 million deficit for this year. Can I million deficit for this year. Can I just million deficit for this year. Can I just clarify million deficit for this year. Can I just clarify with million deficit for this year. Can I just clarify with the million deficit for this year. Can I just clarify with the second just clarify with the second document just clarify with the second document in just clarify with the second document in both just clarify with the second document in both cases just clarify with the second document in both cases is just clarify with the second document in both cases is a just clarify with the second document in both cases is a response document in both cases is a response to document in both cases is a response to the document in both cases is a response to the OIA? document in both cases is a response to the OIA? I document in both cases is a response to the OIA? I will document in both cases is a response to the OIA? I will put document in both cases is a response to the OIA? I will put the document in both cases is a response to the OIA? I will put the letter to the OIA? I will put the letter from to the OIA? I will put the letter from the to the OIA? I will put the letter from the Canterbury to the OIA? I will put the letter from the Canterbury DHB to the OIA? I will put the letter from the Canterbury DHB and to the OIA? I will put the letter from the Canterbury DHB and then to the OIA? I will put the letter from the Canterbury DHB and then the from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of the from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of the board from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of the board meeting from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of the board meeting of from the Canterbury DHB and then the minutes of the board meeting of the minutes of the board meeting of the Canterbury minutes of the board meeting of the Canterbury DHB, minutes of the board meeting of the Canterbury DHB, is minutes of the board meeting of the Canterbury DHB, is there minutes of the board meeting of the Canterbury DHB, is there any Canterbury DHB, is there any objection Canterbury DHB, is there any objection to Canterbury DHB, is there any objection to those Canterbury DHB, is there any objection to those two Canterbury DHB, is there any objection to those two documents objection to those two documents being objection to those two documents being tabled? objection to those two documents being tabled? There objection to those two documents being tabled? There is objection to those two documents being tabled? There is not. objection to those two documents being tabled? There is not. They objection to those two documents being tabled? There is not. They can being tabled? There is not. They can be being tabled? There is not. They can be tabled. being tabled? There is not. They can be tabled. Supplementary being tabled? There is not. They can be tabled. Supplementary question, be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette King. be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette King. Does be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette King. Does he be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette King. Does he still be tabled. Supplementary question, Annette King. Does he still think Annette King. Does he still think there Annette King. Does he still think there is Annette King. Does he still think there is no Annette King. Does he still think there is no need Annette King. Does he still think there is no need for Annette King. Does he still think there is no need for an Annette King. Does he still think there is no need for an inquiry Annette King. Does he still think there is no need for an inquiry into there is no need for an inquiry into mental there is no need for an inquiry into mental health there is no need for an inquiry into mental health in there is no need for an inquiry into mental health in New there is no need for an inquiry into mental health in New Zealand there is no need for an inquiry into mental health in New Zealand in mental health in New Zealand in light mental health in New Zealand in light of mental health in New Zealand in light of the mental health in New Zealand in light of the recent mental health in New Zealand in light of the recent reviews mental health in New Zealand in light of the recent reviews in light of the recent reviews in Waikato light of the recent reviews in Waikato Ant light of the recent reviews in Waikato Ant capital light of the recent reviews in Waikato Ant capital Coast light of the recent reviews in Waikato Ant capital Coast mental Waikato Ant capital Coast mental health Waikato Ant capital Coast mental health services Waikato Ant capital Coast mental health services and Waikato Ant capital Coast mental health services and Northland health services and Northland MidCentral health services and Northland MidCentral and health services and Northland MidCentral and Nelson health services and Northland MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough carrying MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough carrying out MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough carrying out their MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough carrying out their own MidCentral and Nelson Marlborough carrying out their own reviews carrying out their own reviews around carrying out their own reviews around patients carrying out their own reviews around patients and carrying out their own reviews around patients and workforce around patients and workforce safety? around patients and workforce safety? No, around patients and workforce safety? No, I around patients and workforce safety? No, I don't around patients and workforce safety? No, I don't accept around patients and workforce safety? No, I don't accept there around patients and workforce safety? No, I don't accept there is safety? No, I don't accept there is a safety? No, I don't accept there is a need safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for an safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for an inquiry. safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for an inquiry. It safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for an inquiry. It is safety? No, I don't accept there is a need for an inquiry. It is always a need for an inquiry. It is always a a need for an inquiry. It is always a difficult a need for an inquiry. It is always a difficult area. a need for an inquiry. It is always a difficult area. The a need for an inquiry. It is always a difficult area. The Government a need for an inquiry. It is always a difficult area. The Government has a difficult area. The Government has increased a difficult area. The Government has increased funding a difficult area. The Government has increased funding and a difficult area. The Government has increased funding and more a difficult area. The Government has increased funding and more New increased funding and more New Zealanders increased funding and more New Zealanders are increased funding and more New Zealanders are receiving increased funding and more New Zealanders are receiving more Zealanders are receiving more services Zealanders are receiving more services more Zealanders are receiving more services more quickly Zealanders are receiving more services more quickly than services more quickly than previously. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Immigration: What Immigration: What recent Immigration: What recent announcements Immigration: What recent announcements has Immigration: What recent announcements has he What recent announcements has he made What recent announcements has he made regarding What recent announcements has he made regarding the What recent announcements has he made regarding the New What recent announcements has he made regarding the New Zealand made regarding the New Zealand Residence made regarding the New Zealand Residence Programme? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yesterday Mr Speaker, yesterday I Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of changes Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of changes to Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of changes to the Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of changes to the New Mr Speaker, yesterday I announced a number of changes to the New Zealand number of changes to the New Zealand residency number of changes to the New Zealand residency programme. number of changes to the New Zealand residency programme. The number of changes to the New Zealand residency programme. The programme residency programme. The programme is residency programme. The programme is reviewed residency programme. The programme is reviewed every residency programme. The programme is reviewed every two residency programme. The programme is reviewed every two years residency programme. The programme is reviewed every two years to is reviewed every two years to ensure is reviewed every two years to ensure we is reviewed every two years to ensure we have is reviewed every two years to ensure we have the is reviewed every two years to ensure we have the right is reviewed every two years to ensure we have the right number is reviewed every two years to ensure we have the right number and ensure we have the right number and mix ensure we have the right number and mix of ensure we have the right number and mix of people ensure we have the right number and mix of people gaining ensure we have the right number and mix of people gaining residency. ensure we have the right number and mix of people gaining residency. . mix of people gaining residency. . The mix of people gaining residency. . The question mix of people gaining residency. . The question has mix of people gaining residency. . The question has been mix of people gaining residency. . The question has been asked mix of people gaining residency. . The question has been asked and mix of people gaining residency. . The question has been asked and I The question has been asked and I want The question has been asked and I want to The question has been asked and I want to hear The question has been asked and I want to hear the The question has been asked and I want to hear the answer. The question has been asked and I want to hear the answer. I The question has been asked and I want to hear the answer. I want The question has been asked and I want to hear the answer. I want less want to hear the answer. I want less interjection want to hear the answer. I want less interjection from want to hear the answer. I want less interjection from one want to hear the answer. I want less interjection from one member want to hear the answer. I want less interjection from one member in interjection from one member in particular. interjection from one member in particular. The interjection from one member in particular. The changes interjection from one member in particular. The changes to interjection from one member in particular. The changes to the particular. The changes to the programme particular. The changes to the programme include particular. The changes to the programme include lowering particular. The changes to the programme include lowering the programme include lowering the maximum programme include lowering the maximum range programme include lowering the maximum range for programme include lowering the maximum range for residency maximum range for residency approvals maximum range for residency approvals for maximum range for residency approvals for the maximum range for residency approvals for the next maximum range for residency approvals for the next two maximum range for residency approvals for the next two years approvals for the next two years from approvals for the next two years from 100,000 approvals for the next two years from 100,000 to approvals for the next two years from 100,000 to 95,000. approvals for the next two years from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising approvals for the next two years from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the number from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the number of from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the number of points from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the number of points required from 100,000 to 95,000. Raising the number of points required for number of points required for residency number of points required for residency under number of points required for residency under the number of points required for residency under the skilled number of points required for residency under the skilled migrant residency under the skilled migrant category residency under the skilled migrant category from residency under the skilled migrant category from 140 residency under the skilled migrant category from 140 to residency under the skilled migrant category from 140 to 160 residency under the skilled migrant category from 140 to 160 points residency under the skilled migrant category from 140 to 160 points and category from 140 to 160 points and reducing category from 140 to 160 points and reducing the category from 140 to 160 points and reducing the number category from 140 to 160 points and reducing the number of category from 140 to 160 points and reducing the number of places category from 140 to 160 points and reducing the number of places for reducing the number of places for the reducing the number of places for the family reducing the number of places for the family categories reducing the number of places for the family categories to reducing the number of places for the family categories to 2,000 reducing the number of places for the family categories to 2,000 per the family categories to 2,000 per year. the family categories to 2,000 per year. Migrants the family categories to 2,000 per year. Migrants make the family categories to 2,000 per year. Migrants make a the family categories to 2,000 per year. Migrants make a valuable year. Migrants make a valuable contribution year. Migrants make a valuable contribution to year. Migrants make a valuable contribution to New year. Migrants make a valuable contribution to New Zealand year. Migrants make a valuable contribution to New Zealand both contribution to New Zealand both culturally contribution to New Zealand both culturally and contribution to New Zealand both culturally and economically. contribution to New Zealand both culturally and economically. The culturally and economically. The Government culturally and economically. The Government periodically culturally and economically. The Government periodically reviews culturally and economically. The Government periodically reviews all Government periodically reviews all of Government periodically reviews all of our Government periodically reviews all of our immigration Government periodically reviews all of our immigration settings Government periodically reviews all of our immigration settings to Government periodically reviews all of our immigration settings to make of our immigration settings to make sure of our immigration settings to make sure they of our immigration settings to make sure they are of our immigration settings to make sure they are working of our immigration settings to make sure they are working as of our immigration settings to make sure they are working as intended. sure they are working as intended. Order! sure they are working as intended. Order! Supplementary sure they are working as intended. Order! Supplementary question, Order! Supplementary question, Jonathan Order! Supplementary question, Jonathan Young. Order! Supplementary question, Jonathan Young. What Order! Supplementary question, Jonathan Young. What effects Order! Supplementary question, Jonathan Young. What effects will Jonathan Young. What effects will these Jonathan Young. What effects will these changes Jonathan Young. What effects will these changes have Jonathan Young. What effects will these changes have on Jonathan Young. What effects will these changes have on the Jonathan Young. What effects will these changes have on the New these changes have on the New Zealand these changes have on the New Zealand Residence these changes have on the New Zealand Residence programme? these changes have on the New Zealand Residence programme? Demand Zealand Residence programme? Demand for Zealand Residence programme? Demand for residency Zealand Residence programme? Demand for residency is Zealand Residence programme? Demand for residency is currently Zealand Residence programme? Demand for residency is currently high. for residency is currently high. Increasing for residency is currently high. Increasing the for residency is currently high. Increasing the points for residency is currently high. Increasing the points required for residency is currently high. Increasing the points required to Increasing the points required to gain Increasing the points required to gain residence Increasing the points required to gain residence from Increasing the points required to gain residence from 140 Increasing the points required to gain residence from 140 to Increasing the points required to gain residence from 140 to 160 Increasing the points required to gain residence from 140 to 160 will gain residence from 140 to 160 will maintain gain residence from 140 to 160 will maintain the gain residence from 140 to 160 will maintain the long-run gain residence from 140 to 160 will maintain the long-run average gain residence from 140 to 160 will maintain the long-run average of maintain the long-run average of residence maintain the long-run average of residence visas maintain the long-run average of residence visas granted. maintain the long-run average of residence visas granted. It maintain the long-run average of residence visas granted. It will residence visas granted. It will prioritise residence visas granted. It will prioritise visas residence visas granted. It will prioritise visas for residence visas granted. It will prioritise visas for higher residence visas granted. It will prioritise visas for higher skilled prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to ensure prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to ensure we prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to ensure we get prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to ensure we get the prioritise visas for higher skilled migrants to ensure we get the right migrants to ensure we get the right balance migrants to ensure we get the right balance between migrants to ensure we get the right balance between attracting migrants to ensure we get the right balance between attracting skilled balance between attracting skilled workers balance between attracting skilled workers that balance between attracting skilled workers that allow balance between attracting skilled workers that allow companies balance between attracting skilled workers that allow companies to balance between attracting skilled workers that allow companies to grow workers that allow companies to grow and workers that allow companies to grow and managing workers that allow companies to grow and managing demand workers that allow companies to grow and managing demand in workers that allow companies to grow and managing demand in a workers that allow companies to grow and managing demand in a period workers that allow companies to grow and managing demand in a period of and managing demand in a period of high and managing demand in a period of high growth. and managing demand in a period of high growth. The and managing demand in a period of high growth. The changes and managing demand in a period of high growth. The changes to and managing demand in a period of high growth. The changes to the high growth. The changes to the residency high growth. The changes to the residency programme high growth. The changes to the residency programme demonstrates residency programme demonstrates this residency programme demonstrates this Government residency programme demonstrates this Government is residency programme demonstrates this Government is taking residency programme demonstrates this Government is taking a this Government is taking a responsible this Government is taking a responsible and this Government is taking a responsible and pragmatic this Government is taking a responsible and pragmatic approach responsible and pragmatic approach to responsible and pragmatic approach to managing responsible and pragmatic approach to managing immigration. responsible and pragmatic approach to managing immigration. Order! to managing immigration. Order! Supplementary to managing immigration. Order! Supplementary question to managing immigration. Order! Supplementary question Iain Supplementary question Iain Lees-Galloway. Supplementary question Iain Lees-Galloway. Can Supplementary question Iain Lees-Galloway. Can the Supplementary question Iain Lees-Galloway. Can the minister Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm that Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm that by Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm that by reducing Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm that by reducing the Lees-Galloway. Can the minister confirm that by reducing the target confirm that by reducing the target band confirm that by reducing the target band from confirm that by reducing the target band from 100,000 confirm that by reducing the target band from 100,000 to confirm that by reducing the target band from 100,000 to 95,000 confirm that by reducing the target band from 100,000 to 95,000 could band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean that band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean that just band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean that just 68 band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean that just 68 fewer band from 100,000 to 95,000 could mean that just 68 fewer residency mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are made mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are made in mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are made in the mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are made in the next mean that just 68 fewer residency approvals are made in the next two approvals are made in the next two years approvals are made in the next two years given approvals are made in the next two years given that approvals are made in the next two years given that over approvals are made in the next two years given that over the approvals are made in the next two years given that over the last approvals are made in the next two years given that over the last two years given that over the last two years years given that over the last two years there years given that over the last two years there were years given that over the last two years there were 95,937. years given that over the last two years there were 95,937. I years given that over the last two years there were 95,937. I can't years there were 95,937. I can't confirm years there were 95,937. I can't confirm that years there were 95,937. I can't confirm that and years there were 95,937. I can't confirm that and quite years there were 95,937. I can't confirm that and quite the years there were 95,937. I can't confirm that and quite the opposite confirm that and quite the opposite because confirm that and quite the opposite because if confirm that and quite the opposite because if the confirm that and quite the opposite because if the member confirm that and quite the opposite because if the member breaks confirm that and quite the opposite because if the member breaks down because if the member breaks down those because if the member breaks down those numbers because if the member breaks down those numbers across because if the member breaks down those numbers across the because if the member breaks down those numbers across the previous those numbers across the previous two those numbers across the previous two years those numbers across the previous two years 2014/15 those numbers across the previous two years 2014/15 was those numbers across the previous two years 2014/15 was 43, those numbers across the previous two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 those numbers across the previous two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the next two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the next year two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the next year was two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the next year was 23,052. two years 2014/15 was 43, 085 and the next year was 23,052. The the next year was 23,052. The projection the next year was 23,052. The projection is the next year was 23,052. The projection is for the next year was 23,052. The projection is for those the next year was 23,052. The projection is for those numbers the next year was 23,052. The projection is for those numbers to projection is for those numbers to grow. projection is for those numbers to grow. What projection is for those numbers to grow. What changes projection is for those numbers to grow. What changes to projection is for those numbers to grow. What changes to the projection is for those numbers to grow. What changes to the system projection is for those numbers to grow. What changes to the system for grow. What changes to the system for temporary grow. What changes to the system for temporary work grow. What changes to the system for temporary work visas grow. What changes to the system for temporary work visas is grow. What changes to the system for temporary work visas is he temporary work visas is he considering temporary work visas is he considering and temporary work visas is he considering and will temporary work visas is he considering and will any temporary work visas is he considering and will any of temporary work visas is he considering and will any of them considering and will any of them include considering and will any of them include Labour's considering and will any of them include Labour's proposals considering and will any of them include Labour's proposals that considering and will any of them include Labour's proposals that he include Labour's proposals that he described include Labour's proposals that he described as include Labour's proposals that he described as "thinlivaled include Labour's proposals that he described as "thinlivaled seveno described as "thinlivaled seveno phobic described as "thinlivaled seveno phobic rhetoric." Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, in Mr Speaker, in answer Mr Speaker, in answer to Mr Speaker, in answer to the Mr Speaker, in answer to the first Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, the Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, the member Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, the member will Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, the member will just Mr Speaker, in answer to the first question, the member will just have question, the member will just have to question, the member will just have to wait question, the member will just have to wait and question, the member will just have to wait and see, question, the member will just have to wait and see, and question, the member will just have to wait and see, and in question, the member will just have to wait and see, and in answer question, the member will just have to wait and see, and in answer to to wait and see, and in answer to the to wait and see, and in answer to the second to wait and see, and in answer to the second question to wait and see, and in answer to the second question I to wait and see, and in answer to the second question I can to wait and see, and in answer to the second question I can tell to wait and see, and in answer to the second question I can tell the the second question I can tell the member the second question I can tell the member it the second question I can tell the member it certainly the second question I can tell the member it certainly won't the second question I can tell the member it certainly won't have the second question I can tell the member it certainly won't have any member it certainly won't have any reference member it certainly won't have any reference to member it certainly won't have any reference to people member it certainly won't have any reference to people with reference to people with Chinese-sounding reference to people with Chinese-sounding surnames. Chinese-sounding surnames. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: Immigration: Does Immigration: Does he Immigration: Does he stand Immigration: Does he stand by Immigration: Does he stand by all Does he stand by all his Does he stand by all his statements; Does he stand by all his statements; if Does he stand by all his statements; if so, Does he stand by all his statements; if so, how? Yes, Yes, and Yes, and in Yes, and in the Yes, and in the usual Yes, and in the usual manner. Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, that Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, that will Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, that will be Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, that will be true Yes, and in the usual manner. Typically, that will be true enough. Typically, that will be true enough. Order! Typically, that will be true enough. Order! We'll Typically, that will be true enough. Order! We'll just Typically, that will be true enough. Order! We'll just have Typically, that will be true enough. Order! We'll just have the Order! We'll just have the supplementary Order! We'll just have the supplementary question. Order! We'll just have the supplementary question. If Order! We'll just have the supplementary question. If parents supplementary question. If parents from supplementary question. If parents from China supplementary question. If parents from China still supplementary question. If parents from China still overwhelming supplementary question. 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Mr parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, that parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, that is parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, that is a parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, that is a question parents over more countries"? Mr Speaker, that is a question that parents over more countries"? 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Why applications coming from that country. Why has applications coming from that country. Why has he applications coming from that country. Why has he allowed applications coming from that country. Why has he allowed tens applications coming from that country. Why has he allowed tens of country. Why has he allowed tens of thousands country. Why has he allowed tens of thousands of country. Why has he allowed tens of thousands of migrants country. Why has he allowed tens of thousands of migrants into country. Why has he allowed tens of thousands of migrants into this thousands of migrants into this country thousands of migrants into this country without thousands of migrants into this country without any thousands of migrants into this country without any real thousands of migrants into this country without any real skills thousands of migrants into this country without any real skills or thousands of migrants into this country without any real skills or a country without any real skills or a backlog country without any real skills or a backlog of country without any real skills or a backlog of well country without any real skills or a backlog of well over country without any real skills or a backlog of well over 2,000 country without any real skills or a backlog of well over 2,000 parent backlog of well over 2,000 parent category backlog of well over 2,000 parent category applications backlog of well over 2,000 parent category applications of backlog of well over 2,000 parent category applications of which backlog of well over 2,000 parent category applications of which 70% category applications of which 70% are category applications of which 70% are from category applications of which 70% are from China category applications of which 70% are from China against category applications of which 70% are from China against the category applications of which 70% are from China against the statement are from China against the statement he are from China against the statement he made are from China against the statement he made in are from China against the statement he made in 2014? are from China against the statement he made in 2014? Well, are from China against the statement he made in 2014? Well, Mr are from China against the statement he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, the he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, the Resident he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, the Resident programme he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, the Resident programme covers he made in 2014? Well, Mr Speaker, the Resident programme covers three the Resident programme covers three main the Resident programme covers three main categories. the Resident programme covers three main categories. They the Resident programme covers three main categories. They are main categories. They are humanitarian main categories. They are humanitarian including main categories. They are humanitarian including our main categories. They are humanitarian including our refugee humanitarian including our refugee commitments, humanitarian including our refugee commitments, and humanitarian including our refugee commitments, and our humanitarian including our refugee commitments, and our Pacific humanitarian including our refugee commitments, and our Pacific Island commitments, and our Pacific Island commitments. commitments, and our Pacific Island commitments. They commitments, and our Pacific Island commitments. They are commitments, and our Pacific Island commitments. They are partnership commitments. They are partnership including commitments. They are partnership including the commitments. They are partnership including the children commitments. They are partnership including the children and commitments. They are partnership including the children and spouses including the children and spouses of including the children and spouses of people including the children and spouses of people returning including the children and spouses of people returning home, including the children and spouses of people returning home, and including the children and spouses of people returning home, and they of people returning home, and they are of people returning home, and they are skills. of people returning home, and they are skills. So of people returning home, and they are skills. So the of people returning home, and they are skills. So the broader of people returning home, and they are skills. So the broader programme are skills. So the broader programme includes are skills. So the broader programme includes a are skills. So the broader programme includes a number are skills. So the broader programme includes a number of are skills. So the broader programme includes a number of things, are skills. So the broader programme includes a number of things, skills includes a number of things, skills notwithstanding. includes a number of things, skills notwithstanding. Why includes a number of things, skills notwithstanding. Why has includes a number of things, skills notwithstanding. Why has he includes a number of things, skills notwithstanding. Why has he allowed notwithstanding. Why has he allowed and notwithstanding. Why has he allowed and facilitated notwithstanding. Why has he allowed and facilitated the notwithstanding. Why has he allowed and facilitated the parent notwithstanding. Why has he allowed and facilitated the parent category and facilitated the parent category to and facilitated the parent category to be and facilitated the parent category to be so and facilitated the parent category to be so grossly and facilitated the parent category to be so grossly abused and facilitated the parent category to be so grossly abused when and facilitated the parent category to be so grossly abused when in to be so grossly abused when in countless to be so grossly abused when in countless cases to be so grossly abused when in countless cases the to be so grossly abused when in countless cases the New to be so grossly abused when in countless cases the New Zealand countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer has countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer has been countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer has been ripped countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer has been ripped off, countless cases the New Zealand taxpayer has been ripped off, his taxpayer has been ripped off, his words, taxpayer has been ripped off, his words, because taxpayer has been ripped off, his words, because parent taxpayer has been ripped off, his words, because parent category words, because parent category promises words, because parent category promises made words, because parent category promises made at words, because parent category promises made at the words, because parent category promises made at the time words, because parent category promises made at the time of promises made at the time of application promises made at the time of application were promises made at the time of application were simply promises made at the time of application were simply not promises made at the time of application were simply not kept promises made at the time of application were simply not kept or application were simply not kept or -- application were simply not kept or -- by application were simply not kept or -- by him application were simply not kept or -- by him or application were simply not kept or -- by him or his application were simply not kept or -- by him or his department. application were simply not kept or -- by him or his department. I -- by him or his department. I reject -- by him or his department. I reject the -- by him or his department. I reject the prefacing -- by him or his department. I reject the prefacing statement -- by him or his department. I reject the prefacing statement about reject the prefacing statement about this reject the prefacing statement about this category reject the prefacing statement about this category being reject the prefacing statement about this category being grossly reject the prefacing statement about this category being grossly abused this category being grossly abused but this category being grossly abused but there this category being grossly abused but there will this category being grossly abused but there will be this category being grossly abused but there will be a this category being grossly abused but there will be a review this category being grossly abused but there will be a review of this category being grossly abused but there will be a review of the but there will be a review of the parent but there will be a review of the parent category but there will be a review of the parent category visa but there will be a review of the parent category visa because but there will be a review of the parent category visa because of but there will be a review of the parent category visa because of some parent category visa because of some concerns parent category visa because of some concerns of parent category visa because of some concerns of higher parent category visa because of some concerns of higher costs parent category visa because of some concerns of higher costs and parent category visa because of some concerns of higher costs and I parent category visa because of some concerns of higher costs and I look concerns of higher costs and I look forward concerns of higher costs and I look forward to concerns of higher costs and I look forward to the concerns of higher costs and I look forward to the outcome concerns of higher costs and I look forward to the outcome of concerns of higher costs and I look forward to the outcome of that forward to the outcome of that review. forward to the outcome of that review. <INTERRUPTION> review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What sort review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What sort of review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What sort of system review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What sort of system is review. <INTERRUPTION> Order! What sort of system is he Order! What sort of system is he running Order! What sort of system is he running when Order! What sort of system is he running when first Order! What sort of system is he running when first of Order! What sort of system is he running when first of all Order! What sort of system is he running when first of all 31% Order! What sort of system is he running when first of all 31% of running when first of all 31% of migrants running when first of all 31% of migrants using running when first of all 31% of migrants using the running when first of all 31% of migrants using the parent running when first of all 31% of migrants using the parent category migrants using the parent category have migrants using the parent category have abandoned migrants using the parent category have abandoned their migrants using the parent category have abandoned their country migrants using the parent category have abandoned their country and have abandoned their country and dumped have abandoned their country and dumped the have abandoned their country and dumped the parents have abandoned their country and dumped the parents on have abandoned their country and dumped the parents on the have abandoned their country and dumped the parents on the New dumped the parents on the New Zealand dumped the parents on the New Zealand taxpayer dumped the parents on the New Zealand taxpayer and dumped the parents on the New Zealand taxpayer and not dumped the parents on the New Zealand taxpayer and not looked Zealand taxpayer and not looked after Zealand taxpayer and not looked after the Zealand taxpayer and not looked after the commitments Zealand taxpayer and not looked after the commitments they Zealand taxpayer and not looked after the commitments they gave Zealand taxpayer and not looked after the commitments they gave in after the commitments they gave in the after the commitments they gave in the first after the commitments they gave in the first place? after the commitments they gave in the first place? A after the commitments they gave in the first place? A system after the commitments they gave in the first place? A system that after the commitments they gave in the first place? A system that has the first place? A system that has increasingly the first place? A system that has increasingly high the first place? A system that has increasingly high levels the first place? A system that has increasingly high levels of increasingly high levels of confidence increasingly high levels of confidence on increasingly high levels of confidence on the increasingly high levels of confidence on the timeliness increasingly high levels of confidence on the timeliness and confidence on the timeliness and quality confidence on the timeliness and quality of confidence on the timeliness and quality of decision-making confidence on the timeliness and quality of decision-making at quality of decision-making at Immigration quality of decision-making at Immigration NZ quality of decision-making at Immigration NZ and quality of decision-making at Immigration NZ and certainly quality of decision-making at Immigration NZ and certainly a quality of decision-making at Immigration NZ and certainly a lot Immigration NZ and certainly a lot better Immigration NZ and certainly a lot better than Immigration NZ and certainly a lot better than under Immigration NZ and certainly a lot better than under the Immigration NZ and certainly a lot better than under the previous better than under the previous regime. better than under the previous regime. Question better than under the previous regime. Question No. better than under the previous regime. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: Is Finance: Is the Finance: Is the Prime Finance: Is the Prime Minister Is the Prime Minister correct Is the Prime Minister correct with Is the Prime Minister correct with respect Is the Prime Minister correct with respect to Is the Prime Minister correct with respect to tax Is the Prime Minister correct with respect to tax cuts correct with respect to tax cuts that correct with respect to tax cuts that "The correct with respect to tax cuts that "The options correct with respect to tax cuts that "The options are: correct with respect to tax cuts that "The options are: either that "The options are: either include that "The options are: either include it that "The options are: either include it in that "The options are: either include it in Budget that "The options are: either include it in Budget 2017 that "The options are: either include it in Budget 2017 or that "The options are: either include it in Budget 2017 or we include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on that include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on that as include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on that as part include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on that as part of include it in Budget 2017 or we campaign on that as part of Election campaign on that as part of Election 2017. campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those are campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those are the campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those are the two campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those are the two most campaign on that as part of Election 2017. Those are the two most likely 2017. Those are the two most likely options, 2017. Those are the two most likely options, taking 2017. Those are the two most likely options, taking into 2017. Those are the two most likely options, taking into consideration options, taking into consideration we options, taking into consideration we have options, taking into consideration we have a options, taking into consideration we have a responsibility options, taking into consideration we have a responsibility to options, taking into consideration we have a responsibility to take we have a responsibility to take into we have a responsibility to take into account we have a responsibility to take into account two we have a responsibility to take into account two things, we have a responsibility to take into account two things, which we have a responsibility to take into account two things, which are into account two things, which are the into account two things, which are the fiscal into account two things, which are the fiscal and into account two things, which are the fiscal and economic into account two things, which are the fiscal and economic conditions, the fiscal and economic conditions, and the fiscal and economic conditions, and how the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well we the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well we are the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well we are doing the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well we are doing in the fiscal and economic conditions, and how well we are doing in terms and how well we are doing in terms of and how well we are doing in terms of addressing and how well we are doing in terms of addressing the and how well we are doing in terms of addressing the reduction and how well we are doing in terms of addressing the reduction in of addressing the reduction in debt"? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes, Mr Speaker, yes, the Mr Speaker, yes, the PM Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in my Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in my experience Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in my experience he's Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in my experience he's correct Mr Speaker, yes, the PM is correct and in my experience he's correct a and in my experience he's correct a lot and in my experience he's correct a lot more and in my experience he's correct a lot more often and in my experience he's correct a lot more often than and in my experience he's correct a lot more often than the and in my experience he's correct a lot more often than the member and in my experience he's correct a lot more often than the member is. lot more often than the member is. As lot more often than the member is. As he lot more often than the member is. As he pointed lot more often than the member is. As he pointed out, lot more often than the member is. As he pointed out, lowering lot more often than the member is. As he pointed out, lowering taxes lot more often than the member is. As he pointed out, lowering taxes is As he pointed out, lowering taxes is Government As he pointed out, lowering taxes is Government policy, As he pointed out, lowering taxes is Government policy, so As he pointed out, lowering taxes is Government policy, so is As he pointed out, lowering taxes is Government policy, so is investing Government policy, so is investing in Government policy, so is investing in infrastructure Government policy, so is investing in infrastructure and Government policy, so is investing in infrastructure and better Government policy, so is investing in infrastructure and better public in infrastructure and better public services. in infrastructure and better public services. We in infrastructure and better public services. We have in infrastructure and better public services. We have always in infrastructure and better public services. We have always made in infrastructure and better public services. We have always made it services. We have always made it clear services. We have always made it clear tax services. We have always made it clear tax cuts services. We have always made it clear tax cuts are services. We have always made it clear tax cuts are dependent services. We have always made it clear tax cuts are dependent on clear tax cuts are dependent on support clear tax cuts are dependent on support of clear tax cuts are dependent on support of fiscal clear tax cuts are dependent on support of fiscal and clear tax cuts are dependent on support of fiscal and economic support of fiscal and economic conditions. support of fiscal and economic conditions. In support of fiscal and economic conditions. In light support of fiscal and economic conditions. In light of support of fiscal and economic conditions. In light of that support of fiscal and economic conditions. In light of that answer, conditions. In light of that answer, why conditions. In light of that answer, why are conditions. In light of that answer, why are tax conditions. In light of that answer, why are tax cuts conditions. In light of that answer, why are tax cuts still conditions. In light of that answer, why are tax cuts still the conditions. In light of that answer, why are tax cuts still the most why are tax cuts still the most likely why are tax cuts still the most likely option why are tax cuts still the most likely option when why are tax cuts still the most likely option when he why are tax cuts still the most likely option when he has why are tax cuts still the most likely option when he has failed why are tax cuts still the most likely option when he has failed to likely option when he has failed to meet likely option when he has failed to meet one likely option when he has failed to meet one of likely option when he has failed to meet one of the likely option when he has failed to meet one of the core likely option when he has failed to meet one of the core tests likely option when he has failed to meet one of the core tests in likely option when he has failed to meet one of the core tests in terms meet one of the core tests in terms of meet one of the core tests in terms of reducing meet one of the core tests in terms of reducing net meet one of the core tests in terms of reducing net debt meet one of the core tests in terms of reducing net debt which meet one of the core tests in terms of reducing net debt which he of reducing net debt which he admitted of reducing net debt which he admitted yet of reducing net debt which he admitted yet had of reducing net debt which he admitted yet had not of reducing net debt which he admitted yet had not decreased of reducing net debt which he admitted yet had not decreased in admitted yet had not decreased in dollar admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms at admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms at all admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms at all on admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms at all on his admitted yet had not decreased in dollar terms at all on his watch? dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, Mr dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, Mr Speaker, dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, Mr Speaker, the dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, Mr Speaker, the member dollar terms at all on his watch? Well, Mr Speaker, the member is Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying to Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying to talk Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying to talk about Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying to talk about the Well, Mr Speaker, the member is trying to talk about the government trying to talk about the government fiscal trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives in trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives in a trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives in a way trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives in a way that trying to talk about the government fiscal objectives in a way that is fiscal objectives in a way that is simply fiscal objectives in a way that is simply incorrect. fiscal objectives in a way that is simply incorrect. For fiscal objectives in a way that is simply incorrect. For instance, fiscal objectives in a way that is simply incorrect. For instance, with simply incorrect. For instance, with respect simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to net simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to net debt, simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to net debt, the simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to net debt, the target simply incorrect. For instance, with respect to net debt, the target has respect to net debt, the target has been respect to net debt, the target has been to respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce it respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce it to respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce it to 20% respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce it to 20% of respect to net debt, the target has been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been the been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been the target been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been the target for been to reduce it to 20% of GDP, that has been the target for a that has been the target for a number that has been the target for a number of that has been the target for a number of years. that has been the target for a number of years. It that has been the target for a number of years. It is that has been the target for a number of years. It is now that has been the target for a number of years. It is now starting number of years. It is now starting to number of years. It is now starting to decrease number of years. It is now starting to decrease at number of years. It is now starting to decrease at the number of years. It is now starting to decrease at the same number of years. It is now starting to decrease at the same time number of years. It is now starting to decrease at the same time as number of years. It is now starting to decrease at the same time as the to decrease at the same time as the Government to decrease at the same time as the Government is to decrease at the same time as the Government is managing to decrease at the same time as the Government is managing increased Government is managing increased spending Government is managing increased spending on Government is managing increased spending on infrastructure, spending on infrastructure, re-enforcement spending on infrastructure, re-enforcement of spending on infrastructure, re-enforcement of core spending on infrastructure, re-enforcement of core public re-enforcement of core public services, re-enforcement of core public services, overhauling re-enforcement of core public services, overhauling much re-enforcement of core public services, overhauling much of re-enforcement of core public services, overhauling much of the services, overhauling much of the Government services, overhauling much of the Government machinery services, overhauling much of the Government machinery so services, overhauling much of the Government machinery so it's services, overhauling much of the Government machinery so it's more Government machinery so it's more customer-friendly. Government machinery so it's more customer-friendly. All Government machinery so it's more customer-friendly. All of Government machinery so it's more customer-friendly. All of these customer-friendly. All of these things customer-friendly. All of these Government customer-friendly. All of these things can be customer-friendly. All of these things can be achieved customer-friendly. All of these things can be achieved as customer-friendly. All of these things can be achieved as well customer-friendly. All of these things can be achieved as well as things can be achieved as well as reducing things can be achieved as well as reducing taxes things can be achieved as well as reducing taxes if things can be achieved as well as reducing taxes if fiscal things can be achieved as well as reducing taxes if fiscal conditions reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are good reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are good enough. reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are good enough. Are reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are good enough. Are his reducing taxes if fiscal conditions are good enough. Are his officials are good enough. Are his officials working are good enough. Are his officials working on are good enough. Are his officials working on a are good enough. Are his officials working on a tax are good enough. Are his officials working on a tax cut are good enough. Are his officials working on a tax cut plan are good enough. Are his officials working on a tax cut plan for are good enough. Are his officials working on a tax cut plan for Budget working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr Speaker, working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr Speaker, no, working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they working on a tax cut plan for Budget 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly be 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly be working 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly be working on 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly be working on the 2017? Mr Speaker, no, but they will certainly be working on the longer certainly be working on the longer term certainly be working on the longer term fiscal certainly be working on the longer term fiscal outlook. certainly be working on the longer term fiscal outlook. In certainly be working on the longer term fiscal outlook. In fact certainly be working on the longer term fiscal outlook. In fact I certainly be working on the longer term fiscal outlook. In fact I think term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury is term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury is going term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury is going to term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury is going to public term fiscal outlook. In fact I think Treasury is going to public the term fiscal outlook. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: Can My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm that My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm that there Health: Can he confirm that there has Health: Can he confirm that there has been Health: Can he confirm that there has been 190,807 Health: Can he confirm that there has been 190,807 more Health: Can he confirm that there has been 190,807 more children's has been 190,807 more children's visits has been 190,807 more children's visits to has been 190,807 more children's visits to the has been 190,807 more children's visits to the GP, has been 190,807 more children's visits to the GP, an has been 190,807 more children's visits to the GP, an increase has been 190,807 more children's visits to the GP, an increase of visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, in visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, in the visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, in the last visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, in the last 12 visits to the GP, an increase of 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months since 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months since the 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months since the Government 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months since the Government introduced 16.6 percent, in the last 12 months since the Government introduced free since the Government introduced free GP since the Government introduced free GP visits since the Government introduced free GP visits for since the Government introduced free GP visits for under-13's? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes. Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, we Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, we committed Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, we committed $90 Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, we committed $90 million Mr Speaker, yes. Yes. Back in Budget 2014, we committed $90 million over 2014, we committed $90 million over three 2014, we committed $90 million over three years 2014, we committed $90 million over three years to 2014, we committed $90 million over three years to extend 2014, we committed $90 million over three years to extend free 2014, we committed $90 million over three years to extend free GP 2014, we committed $90 million over three years to extend free GP visits three years to extend free GP visits and three years to extend free GP visits and prescriptions three years to extend free GP visits and prescriptions to three years to extend free GP visits and prescriptions to children three years to extend free GP visits and prescriptions to children aged and prescriptions to children aged under and prescriptions to children aged under 13. and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As a and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As a result, and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As a result, we and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As a result, we now and prescriptions to children aged under 13. As a result, we now have under 13. As a result, we now have more under 13. As a result, we now have more than under 13. As a result, we now have more than 780,000 under 13. As a result, we now have more than 780,000 children under 13. As a result, we now have more than 780,000 children under under 13. As a result, we now have more than 780,000 children under 13 more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting from more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting from those more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting from those free more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting from those free GP more than 780,000 children under 13 benefiting from those free GP visits benefiting from those free GP visits during benefiting from those free GP visits during business benefiting from those free GP visits during business hours benefiting from those free GP visits during business hours and benefiting from those free GP visits during business hours and also benefiting from those free GP visits during business hours and also from during business hours and also from free during business hours and also from free prescriptions during business hours and also from free prescriptions with during business hours and also from free prescriptions with over during business hours and also from free prescriptions with over 99% during business hours and also from free prescriptions with over 99% of free prescriptions with over 99% of general free prescriptions with over 99% of general practises free prescriptions with over 99% of general practises signing free prescriptions with over 99% of general practises signing up free prescriptions with over 99% of general practises signing up to free prescriptions with over 99% of general practises signing up to the general practises signing up to the scheme. general practises signing up to the scheme. Importantly, general practises signing up to the scheme. Importantly, the general practises signing up to the scheme. Importantly, the data general practises signing up to the scheme. Importantly, the data shows scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's been scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's been a scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's been a 17.1% scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's been a 17.1% increase scheme. Importantly, the data shows there's been a 17.1% increase in there's been a 17.1% increase in visits there's been a 17.1% increase in visits for there's been a 17.1% increase in visits for Maori there's been a 17.1% increase in visits for Maori children there's been a 17.1% increase in visits for Maori children and there's been a 17.1% increase in visits for Maori children and the visits for Maori children and the 13.5% visits for Maori children and the 13.5% in visits for Maori children and the 13.5% in visits visits for Maori children and the 13.5% in visits for visits for Maori children and the 13.5% in visits for Pasifika 13.5% in visits for Pasifika children. 13.5% in visits for Pasifika children. What 13.5% in visits for Pasifika children. What positive 13.5% in visits for Pasifika children. What positive effects 13.5% in visits for Pasifika children. What positive effects has children. What positive effects has the children. What positive effects has the introduction children. What positive effects has the introduction of children. What positive effects has the introduction of free children. What positive effects has the introduction of free doctors' the introduction of free doctors' visits the introduction of free doctors' the the introduction of free doctors' visits and prescriptions the introduction of free doctors' visits and prescriptions had? the introduction of free doctors' visits and prescriptions had? As the introduction of free doctors' visits and prescriptions had? As a visits and prescriptions had? As a result visits and prescriptions had? As a result of visits and prescriptions had? As a result of the visits and prescriptions had? As a result of the under visits and prescriptions had? As a result of the under 13 visits and prescriptions had? As a result of the under 13 visits, visits and prescriptions had? As a result of the under 13 visits, we result of the under 13 visits, we have result of the under 13 visits, we have seen result of the under 13 visits, we have seen an result of the under 13 visits, we have seen an encouraging result of the under 13 visits, we have seen an encouraging decrease result of the under 13 visits, we have seen an encouraging decrease of have seen an encouraging decrease of 1600 have seen an encouraging decrease of 1600 presentations have seen an encouraging decrease of 1600 presentations to have seen an encouraging decrease of 1600 presentations to hospital 1600 presentations to hospital emergency 1600 presentations to hospital result 1600 presentations to hospital emergency departments. That's 1600 presentations to hospital emergency departments. That's a 1600 presentations to hospital emergency departments. That's a drop emergency departments. That's a drop of emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. We emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. We have emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. We have also emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. We have also seen emergency departments. That's a drop of 4.7%. We have also seen an of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase in of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase in access of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase in access to of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase in access to medicines of 4.7%. We have also seen an increase in access to medicines with increase in access to medicines with a increase in access to medicines with a number increase in access to medicines with a number of increase in access to medicines with a number of prescriptions increase in access to medicines with a number of prescriptions dispensed a number of prescriptions dispensed increasing a number of prescriptions dispensed a a number of prescriptions dispensed increasing by 23.9%. a number of prescriptions dispensed increasing by 23.9%. Showing a number of prescriptions dispensed increasing by 23.9%. Showing that increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the removal increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the removal of increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the removal of costs increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the removal of costs has increasing by 23.9%. Showing that the removal of costs has improved the removal of costs has improved access the removal of costs has improved access to the removal of costs has improved access to medicines. the removal of costs has improved access to medicines. It's the removal of costs has improved access to medicines. It's clear the removal of costs has improved access to medicines. It's clear that access to medicines. It's clear that the access to medicines. It's clear that the free access to medicines. It's clear that the free under access to medicines. It's clear that the free under 13s access to medicines. It's clear that the free under 13s policy access to medicines. It's clear that the free under 13s policy is the free under 13s policy is supporting the free under 13s policy is supporting the the free under 13s policy is supporting the Government's the free under 13s policy is supporting the Government's strategy supporting the Government's strategy in supporting the Government's strategy in health supporting the Government's strategy in health which supporting the Government's strategy in health which aims supporting the Government's strategy in health which aims to supporting the Government's strategy in health which aims to have in health which aims to have interventions in health which aims to have interventions delivered in health which aims to have interventions delivered much in health which aims to have interventions delivered much earlier interventions delivered much earlier in interventions delivered much earlier in the interventions delivered much earlier in the community interventions delivered much earlier in the community setting interventions delivered much earlier in the community setting which interventions delivered much earlier in the community setting which means in the community setting which means that in the community setting which means that children in the community setting which means that children are in the community setting which means that children are prevented in the community setting which means that children are prevented from that children are prevented from getting that children are prevented from getting more that children are prevented from getting more sick that children are prevented from getting more sick and that children are prevented from getting more sick and that's that children are prevented from getting more sick and that's got that children are prevented from getting more sick and that's got to getting more sick and that's got to be getting more sick and that's got to be a getting more sick and that's got to be a good getting more sick and that's got to be a good thing. getting more sick and that's got to be a good thing. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for ACC: ACC: Is ACC: Is he ACC: Is he confident ACC: Is he confident that ACC: Is he confident that ACC ACC: Is he confident that ACC is Is he confident that ACC is making Is he confident that ACC is making decisions Is he confident that ACC is making decisions in Is he confident that ACC is making decisions in accordance Is he confident that ACC is making decisions in accordance with making decisions in accordance with the making decisions in accordance with the purpose, making decisions in accordance with the purpose, principles making decisions in accordance with the purpose, principles and the purpose, principles and intention the purpose, principles and intention of the purpose, principles and intention of the the purpose, principles and intention of the Accident intention of the Accident Compensation intention of the Accident Compensation Act intention of the Accident Compensation Act 2001, intention of the Accident Compensation Act 2001, and intention of the Accident Compensation Act 2001, and in intention of the Accident Compensation Act 2001, and in the Compensation Act 2001, and in the best Compensation Act 2001, and in the best interest Compensation Act 2001, and in the best interest of Compensation Act 2001, and in the best interest of claimants? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, on Mr Speaker, on behalf Mr Speaker, on behalf of Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for ACC, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for ACC, yes. Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for ACC, yes. To Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister: Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister: Why Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister: Why did Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister: Why did ACC Minister for ACC, yes. To the Minister: Why did ACC ignore Minister: Why did ACC ignore treatment Minister: Why did ACC ignore treatment recommendations Minister: Why did ACC ignore treatment recommendations for treatment recommendations for Northland, treatment recommendations for Northland, despite treatment recommendations for Northland, despite sending treatment recommendations for Northland, despite sending him treatment recommendations for Northland, despite sending him to Northland, despite sending him to multiple Northland, despite sending him to multiple specialists, Northland, despite sending him to multiple specialists, ignoring Northland, despite sending him to multiple specialists, ignoring the multiple specialists, ignoring the advice multiple specialists, ignoring the advice of multiple specialists, ignoring the advice of six multiple specialists, ignoring the advice of six doctors multiple specialists, ignoring the advice of six doctors who multiple specialists, ignoring the advice of six doctors who favoured advice of six doctors who favoured Mr advice of six doctors who favoured Mr Wakeland's advice of six doctors who favoured Mr Wakeland's case, advice of six doctors who favoured Mr Wakeland's case, and advice of six doctors who favoured Mr Wakeland's case, and declining Mr Wakeland's case, and declining his Mr Wakeland's case, and declining his claim Mr Wakeland's case, and declining his claim because Mr Wakeland's case, and declining his claim because one Mr Wakeland's case, and declining his claim because one specialist his claim because one specialist provided his claim because one specialist provided a his claim because one specialist provided a report his claim because one specialist provided a report that his claim because one specialist provided a report that suited his claim because one specialist provided a report that suited their provided a report that suited their interest? provided a report that suited their interest? Mr provided a report that suited their interest? Mr Speaker, provided a report that suited their interest? Mr Speaker, I provided a report that suited their interest? Mr Speaker, I can't provided a report that suited their interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer those interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer those questions. interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer those questions. To interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer those questions. To the interest? Mr Speaker, I can't answer those questions. To the Minister: those questions. To the Minister: Does those questions. To the Minister: Does he those questions. To the Minister: Does he think those questions. To the Minister: Does he think it those questions. To the Minister: Does he think it is those questions. To the Minister: Does he think it is acceptable those questions. To the Minister: Does he think it is acceptable for Does he think it is acceptable for ACC Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take over Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take over nine Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take over nine months Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take over nine months to Does he think it is acceptable for ACC to take over nine months to make ACC to take over nine months to make a ACC to take over nine months to make a decision ACC to take over nine months to make a decision on ACC to take over nine months to make a decision on Mr ACC to take over nine months to make a decision on Mr Noah ACC to take over nine months to make a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and then a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and then deny a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and then deny him a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and then deny him access a decision on Mr Noah Wakeland's claim and then deny him access to claim and then deny him access to the claim and then deny him access to the public claim and then deny him access to the public health claim and then deny him access to the public health system claim and then deny him access to the public health system while claim and then deny him access to the public health system while his the public health system while his symptoms the public health system while his symptoms continued the public health system while his symptoms continued to the public health system while his symptoms continued to worsen? the public health system while his symptoms continued to worsen? Well, symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr Speaker, symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr Speaker, the symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr Speaker, the person symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr Speaker, the person concerned symptoms continued to worsen? Well, Mr Speaker, the person concerned may Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be dealing Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be dealing with Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be dealing with the Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be dealing with the distress Mr Speaker, the person concerned may be dealing with the distress related be dealing with the distress related to be dealing with the distress related to health be dealing with the distress related to health issues be dealing with the distress related to health issues but be dealing with the distress related to health issues but the to health issues but the entitlements to health issues but the entitlements are to health issues but the entitlements are determined to health issues but the entitlements are determined by to health issues but the entitlements are determined by the entitlements are determined by the legislation entitlements are determined by the legislation or entitlements are determined by the legislation or by entitlements are determined by the legislation or by subsequent entitlements are determined by the legislation or by subsequent review. legislation or by subsequent review. And legislation or by subsequent review. And if legislation or by subsequent review. And if the legislation or by subsequent review. And if the person legislation or by subsequent review. And if the person concerned legislation or by subsequent review. And if the person concerned is legislation or by subsequent review. And if the person concerned is - And if the person concerned is - feels And if the person concerned is - feels he's And if the person concerned is - feels he's not And if the person concerned is - feels he's not getting And if the person concerned is - feels he's not getting his feels he's not getting his entitlement, feels he's not getting his entitlement, then feels he's not getting his entitlement, then he feels he's not getting his entitlement, then he is feels he's not getting his entitlement, then he is able feels he's not getting his entitlement, then he is able to entitlement, then he is able to review. entitlement, then he is able to review. To entitlement, then he is able to review. To the entitlement, then he is able to review. To the Minister: entitlement, then he is able to review. To the Minister: Does entitlement, then he is able to review. To the Minister: Does he review. To the Minister: Does he think review. To the Minister: Does he think it review. To the Minister: Does he think it acceptable review. To the Minister: Does he think it acceptable for review. To the Minister: Does he think it acceptable for ACC review. To the Minister: Does he think it acceptable for ACC to think it acceptable for ACC to pressure think it acceptable for ACC to pressure claimants think it acceptable for ACC to pressure claimants such think it acceptable for ACC to pressure claimants such as think it acceptable for ACC to pressure claimants such as Mr think it acceptable for ACC to pressure claimants such as Mr Noah pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland to pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland to return pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland to return to pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland to return to work pressure claimants such as Mr Noah Wakeland to return to work after Wakeland to return to work after three Wakeland to return to work after three months Wakeland to return to work after three months when Wakeland to return to work after three months when he, Wakeland to return to work after three months when he, one, Wakeland to return to work after three months when he, one, had Wakeland to return to work after three months when he, one, had not three months when he, one, had not recovered three months when he, one, had not recovered - three months when he, one, had not recovered - two, three months when he, one, had not recovered - two, had three months when he, one, had not recovered - two, had medical recovered - two, had medical specialists recovered - two, had medical specialists saying recovered - two, had medical specialists saying he recovered - two, had medical specialists saying he had recovered - two, had medical specialists saying he had not specialists saying he had not recovered, specialists saying he had not recovered, and, specialists saying he had not recovered, and, three, specialists saying he had not recovered, and, three, needed specialists saying he had not recovered, and, three, needed a recovered, and, three, needed a transition recovered, and, three, needed a transition period recovered, and, three, needed a transition period which recovered, and, three, needed a transition period which should recovered, and, three, needed a transition period which should have transition period which should have included transition period which should have included intensive transition period which should have included intensive rehabilitation included intensive rehabilitation and included intensive rehabilitation and a included intensive rehabilitation and a stage included intensive rehabilitation and a stage transition included intensive rehabilitation and a stage transition back included intensive rehabilitation and a stage transition back into and a stage transition back into work? and a stage transition back into work? Well, and a stage transition back into work? Well, Mr and a stage transition back into work? Well, Mr Speaker, and a stage transition back into work? Well, Mr Speaker, I and a stage transition back into work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope and a stage transition back into work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the person work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the person he's work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the person he's referring work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the person he's referring to work? Well, Mr Speaker, I hope that the person he's referring to gets the person he's referring to gets the the person he's referring to gets the best the person he's referring to gets the best treatment, the person he's referring to gets the best treatment, and the person he's referring to gets the best treatment, and gets the person he's referring to gets the best treatment, and gets a the person he's referring to gets the best treatment, and gets a path the best treatment, and gets a path back the best treatment, and gets a path back to the best treatment, and gets a path back to work. the best treatment, and gets a path back to work. That's the best treatment, and gets a path back to work. That's one the best treatment, and gets a path back to work. That's one of the best treatment, and gets a path back to work. That's one of the back to work. That's one of the purposes back to work. That's one of the purposes of back to work. That's one of the purposes of ACC. back to work. That's one of the purposes of ACC. But back to work. That's one of the purposes of ACC. But I back to work. That's one of the purposes of ACC. But I can't back to work. That's one of the purposes of ACC. But I can't comment purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on the purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on the individual purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on the individual case. purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on the individual case. Question purposes of ACC. But I can't comment on the individual case. Question No. on the individual case. Question No. 10. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: What Finance: What has Finance: What has convinced Finance: What has convinced him Finance: What has convinced him to What has convinced him to announce What has convinced him to announce a What has convinced him to announce a Government-backed announce a Government-backed building announce a Government-backed building programme announce a Government-backed building programme to announce a Government-backed building programme to build building programme to build medium-density building programme to build medium-density housing building programme to build medium-density housing using medium-density housing using economies medium-density housing using economies of medium-density housing using economies of scale medium-density housing using economies of scale to medium-density housing using economies of scale to drive medium-density housing using economies of scale to drive down economies of scale to drive down costs, economies of scale to drive down costs, and economies of scale to drive down costs, and why economies of scale to drive down costs, and why is economies of scale to drive down costs, and why is it economies of scale to drive down costs, and why is it now economies of scale to drive down costs, and why is it now a economies of scale to drive down costs, and why is it now a priority costs, and why is it now a priority after costs, and why is it now a priority after eight costs, and why is it now a priority after eight years costs, and why is it now a priority after eight years in costs, and why is it now a priority after eight years in Government? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker, the member's Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government did Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government did not Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government did not need Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government did not need to Mr Speaker, the member's wrong. The Government did not need to be Government did not need to be convinced. Government did not need to be convinced. Since Government did not need to be convinced. Since the Government did not need to be convinced. Since the day Government did not need to be convinced. Since the day we Government did not need to be convinced. Since the day we took convinced. Since the day we took office convinced. Since the day we took office in convinced. Since the day we took office in 2008, convinced. Since the day we took office in 2008, we convinced. Since the day we took office in 2008, we had convinced. Since the day we took office in 2008, we had been convinced. Since the day we took office in 2008, we had been working office in 2008, we had been working on office in 2008, we had been working on the office in 2008, we had been working on the Tamaki office in 2008, we had been working on the Tamaki Redevelopment on the Tamaki Redevelopment programme on the Tamaki Redevelopment programme which on the Tamaki Redevelopment programme which will on the Tamaki Redevelopment programme which will deliver on the Tamaki Redevelopment programme which will deliver 7,500 programme which will deliver 7,500 houses programme which will deliver 7,500 programme programme which will deliver 7,500 houses to the programme which will deliver 7,500 houses to the Auckland programme which will deliver 7,500 houses to the Auckland market programme which will deliver 7,500 houses to the Auckland market in programme which will deliver 7,500 houses to the Auckland market in the houses to the Auckland market in the coming houses to the Auckland market in the coming years. houses to the Auckland market in the coming years. The houses to the Auckland market in the coming years. The member houses to the Auckland market in the coming years. The member should houses to the Auckland market in the coming years. The member should ask coming years. The member should ask Mr coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat Sneden coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat Sneden about coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat Sneden about the coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings coming years. The member should ask Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We started Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We started on Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We started on the Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We started on the programme Mr Pat Sneden about the meetings we had. We started on the programme - had. We started on the programme - no had. We started on the programme - no the had. We started on the programme - no the member had. We started on the programme - no the member should had. We started on the programme - no the member should listen. had. We started on the programme - no the member should listen. In no the member should listen. In February no the member should listen. In February 2011 no the member should listen. In February 2011 for no the member should listen. In February 2011 for the no the member should listen. 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Now, we have accelerated the work at Hobsonville. Now, that we have accelerated the work at Hobsonville. Now, that we we have accelerated the work at Hobsonville. Now, that we have we have accelerated the work at Hobsonville. Now, that we have the Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Auckland Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Auckland union Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Auckland union Try Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Auckland union Try Plan, Hobsonville. Now, that we have the new Auckland union Try Plan, the new Auckland union Try Plan, the member new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is starting new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is starting to new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is starting to take new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is starting to take notice new Auckland union Try Plan, the member is starting to take notice of member is starting to take notice of the member is starting to take notice of the large member is starting to take notice of the large scale member is starting to take notice of the large scale Government member is starting to take notice of the large scale Government building the large scale Government building programmes the large scale Government building programmes that the large scale Government building programmes that have the large scale Government building programmes that have been the large scale Government building programmes that have been going the large scale Government building programmes that have been going on programmes that have been going on through programmes that have been going on through the programmes that have been going on through the last programmes that have been going on through the last eight programmes that have been going on through the last eight years. programmes that have been going on through the last eight years. Can programmes that have been going on through the last eight years. Can he through the last eight years. Can he confirm through the last eight years. Can he confirm that through the last eight years. Can he confirm that the through the last eight years. Can he confirm that the compelling through the last eight years. Can he confirm that the compelling new confirm that the compelling new information confirm that the compelling new information that confirm that the compelling new information that shows confirm that the compelling new information that shows that confirm that the compelling new information that shows that his information that shows that his housing information that shows that his housing policies information that shows that his housing policies have information that shows that his housing policies have failed housing policies have failed completely housing policies have failed completely and housing policies have failed completely and that housing policies have failed completely and that his housing policies have failed completely and that his housing completely and that his housing crisis completely and that his housing crisis is completely and that his housing crisis is spinning completely and that his housing crisis is spinning out completely and that his housing crisis is spinning out of completely and that his housing crisis is spinning out of control crisis is spinning out of control was crisis is spinning out of control was provided crisis is spinning out of control was provided by crisis is spinning out of control was provided by that crisis is spinning out of control was provided by that well crisis is spinning out of control was provided by that well -respected was provided by that well -respected housing was provided by that well -respected housing policy was provided by that well -respected housing policy think-tank was provided by that well -respected housing policy think-tank - was provided by that well -respected housing policy think-tank - Kuria housing policy think-tank - Kuria Research. housing policy think-tank - Kuria Research. Mr housing policy think-tank - Kuria Research. Mr Speaker, housing policy think-tank - Kuria Research. Mr Speaker, certainly housing policy think-tank - Kuria Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed out Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed out to Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed out to the Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed out to the member, Research. Mr Speaker, certainly not. As I pointed out to the member, he As I pointed out to the member, he may As I pointed out to the member, he may not As I pointed out to the member, he may not have As I pointed out to the member, he may not have done As I pointed out to the member, he may not have done his As I pointed out to the member, he may not have done his homework As I pointed out to the member, he may not have done his homework but As I pointed out to the member, he may not have done his homework but a may not have done his homework but a number may not have done his homework but a number of may not have done his homework but a number of large-scale may not have done his homework but a number of large-scale programmes number of large-scale programmes have number of large-scale programmes Research. number of large-scale programmes have been underway. number of large-scale programmes have been underway. In number of large-scale programmes have been underway. In fact, number of large-scale programmes have been underway. In fact, I have been underway. In fact, I invite have been underway. In fact, I invite the have been underway. In fact, I invite the Minister have been underway. In fact, I invite the Minister to have been underway. In fact, I invite the Minister to visit invite the Minister to visit Christchurch invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to see invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to see the invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to see the 800 invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to see the 800 - invite the Minister to visit Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new housing Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new housing -- Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new housing -- Housing Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new housing -- Housing New Christchurch to see the 800 - 700 new housing -- Housing New Zealand new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses build new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses build and new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses build and the new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses build and the 5,000 new housing -- Housing New Zealand houses build and the 5,000 repairs. houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I invite houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I invite him houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I invite him to houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I invite him to visit houses build and the 5,000 repairs. I invite him to visit Hobsonville I invite him to visit Hobsonville and I invite him to visit Hobsonville and tacky, I invite him to visit Hobsonville and tacky, procuring I invite him to visit Hobsonville and tacky, procuring large I invite him to visit Hobsonville and tacky, procuring large scale and tacky, procuring large scale developers and tacky, procuring large scale developers so and tacky, procuring large scale developers so that and tacky, procuring large scale developers so that 7,500 and tacky, procuring large scale developers so that 7,500 houses and tacky, procuring large scale developers so that 7,500 houses can developers so that 7,500 houses can be developers so that 7,500 houses can be built developers so that 7,500 houses can be built there. developers so that 7,500 houses can be built there. And developers so that 7,500 houses can be built there. And we developers so that 7,500 houses can be built there. And we have developers so that 7,500 houses can be built there. And we have only be built there. And we have only just be built there. And we have only just got be built there. And we have only just got started. be built there. And we have only just got started. <INTERRUPTION> just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Why just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Why is just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Why is he just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Why is he refusing just got started. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Why is he refusing to Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that all Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that all the Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that all the new Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that all the new houses Order! Why is he refusing to guarantee that all the new houses he guarantee that all the new houses he now guarantee that all the new houses he now promises guarantee that all the new houses he now promises to guarantee that all the new houses he now promises to build guarantee that all the new houses he now promises to build will guarantee that all the new houses he now promises to build will be guarantee that all the new houses he now promises to build will be for now promises to build will be for first now promises to build will be for first home now promises to build will be for first home buyers now promises to build will be for first home buyers and now promises to build will be for first home buyers and Kiwi now promises to build will be for first home buyers and Kiwi families first home buyers and Kiwi families and first home buyers and Kiwi families and not first home buyers and Kiwi families and not for first home buyers and Kiwi families and not for property first home buyers and Kiwi families and not for property speculators first home buyers and Kiwi families and not for property speculators or and not for property speculators or is and not for property speculators or is he and not for property speculators or is he still and not for property speculators or is he still on and not for property speculators or is he still on the and not for property speculators or is he still on the side and not for property speculators or is he still on the side of and not for property speculators or is he still on the side of the is he still on the side of the speculators? is he still on the side of the speculators? Well, is he still on the side of the speculators? Well, Mr is he still on the side of the speculators? Well, Mr Speaker, is he still on the side of the speculators? Well, Mr Speaker, shows speculators? Well, Mr Speaker, shows the speculators? Well, Mr Speaker, shows the member speculators? Well, Mr Speaker, shows the member fundamentally the member fundamentally misunderstands the member fundamentally misunderstands housing the member fundamentally misunderstands housing markets. the member fundamentally misunderstands housing markets. The misunderstands housing markets. The fact misunderstands housing markets. The fact is misunderstands housing markets. The fact is that misunderstands housing markets. The fact is that the misunderstands housing markets. The fact is that the Government misunderstands housing markets. The fact is that the Government now misunderstands housing markets. The fact is that the Government now - fact is that the Government now - under fact is that the Government now - under the fact is that the Government now - under the Auckland fact is that the Government now - under the Auckland Unitary fact is that the Government now - under the Auckland Unitary Plan, fact is that the Government now - under the Auckland Unitary Plan, the under the Auckland Unitary Plan, the Government under the Auckland Unitary Plan, the Government owns under the Auckland Unitary Plan, the Government owns sufficient under the Auckland Unitary Plan, the Government owns sufficient land Government owns sufficient land already Government owns sufficient land already in Government owns sufficient land already in Auckland Government owns sufficient land already in Auckland to Government owns sufficient land already in Auckland to now Government owns sufficient land already in Auckland to now build already in Auckland to now build another already in Auckland to now build another 30,000 already in Auckland to now build another 30,000 houses. already in Auckland to now build another 30,000 houses. They already in Auckland to now build another 30,000 houses. They won't already in Auckland to now build another 30,000 houses. They won't be another 30,000 houses. They won't be - another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will be another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will be a another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will be a mixture another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will be a mixture of another 30,000 houses. They won't be - they will be a mixture of houses - they will be a mixture of houses sold - they will be a mixture of houses sold to - they will be a mixture of houses sold to the - they will be a mixture of houses sold to the market. - they will be a mixture of houses sold to the market. Medium-prized sold to the market. Medium-prized houses sold to the market. Medium-prized houses that sold to the market. Medium-prized houses that first sold to the market. Medium-prized houses that first home-buyers sold to the market. Medium-prized houses that first home-buyers or houses that first home-buyers or lower houses that first home-buyers or lower income houses that first home-buyers or lower income families houses that first home-buyers or lower income families can houses that first home-buyers or lower income families can afford, lower income families can afford, but lower income families can afford, but most lower income families can afford, but most importantly lower income families can afford, but most importantly - lower income families can afford, but most importantly - social lower income families can afford, but most importantly - social houses but most importantly - social houses because but most importantly - social houses because the but most importantly - social houses because the Government but most importantly - social houses because the Government is because the Government is responsible because the Government is responsible for because the Government is responsible for meeting because the Government is responsible for meeting growing responsible for meeting growing demand responsible for meeting growing demand for responsible for meeting growing demand for social responsible for meeting growing demand for social housing responsible for meeting growing demand for social housing in demand for social housing in Auckland. demand for social housing in Auckland. And demand for social housing in Auckland. And we'll demand for social housing in Auckland. And we'll make demand for social housing in Auckland. And we'll make those Auckland. And we'll make those decisions Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we go. Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we go. How Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we go. How many Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we go. How many of Auckland. And we'll make those decisions as we go. How many of his decisions as we go. How many of his promised, decisions as we go. How many of his promised, and decisions as we go. How many of his promised, and I decisions as we go. How many of his promised, and I quote, decisions as we go. How many of his promised, and I quote, "Maybe decisions as we go. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: the Environment: Will the Environment: Will he the Environment: Will he set the Environment: Will he set a the Environment: Will he set a pesticide the Environment: Will he set a pesticide use Will he set a pesticide use reduction Will he set a pesticide use reduction policy Will he set a pesticide use reduction policy for Will he set a pesticide use reduction policy for Aotearoa Will he set a pesticide use reduction policy for Aotearoa New reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, such reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, such as reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, such as exists reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, such as exists in reduction policy for Aotearoa New Zealand, such as exists in many Zealand, such as exists in many Scandinavian Zealand, such as exists in many Scandinavian and Zealand, such as exists in many Scandinavian and EU Zealand, such as exists in many Scandinavian and EU countries? 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But, Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, Mr Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll notice Phil Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll notice Phil Goff, Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll notice Phil Goff, he Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent Mr Speaker, in his valedictory, you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot of you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot of time you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot of time praising you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot of time praising the you'll notice Phil Goff, he spent a lot of time praising the Roger lot of time praising the Roger Douglas lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. He lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. He wasn't lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. He wasn't too lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. He wasn't too keen lot of time praising the Roger Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk about Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk about the Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk about the current Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk about the current Labour Douglas years. He wasn't too keen to talk about the current Labour Party. talk about the current Labour Party. He talk about the current Labour Party. He was talk about the current Labour Party. He was very talk about the current Labour Party. He was very much talk about the current Labour Party. He was very much aligned, talk about the current Labour Party. He was very much aligned, I talk about the current Labour Party. He was very much aligned, I think, He was very much aligned, I think, with He was very much aligned, I think, with Nick He was very much aligned, I think, with Nick Clegg He was very much aligned, I think, with Nick Clegg and He was very much aligned, I think, with Nick Clegg and his He was very much aligned, I think, with Nick Clegg and his comments, with Nick Clegg and his comments, the with Nick Clegg and his comments, the Labour with Nick Clegg and his comments, the Labour Party with Nick Clegg and his comments, the Labour Party does with Nick Clegg and his comments, the Labour Party does not with Nick Clegg and his comments, the Labour Party does not have the Labour Party does not have anything the Labour Party does not have anything to the Labour Party does not have anything to show. the Labour Party does not have anything to show. So the Labour Party does not have anything to show. So those the Labour Party does not have anything to show. So those guys the Labour Party does not have anything to show. So those guys are anything to show. So those guys are in anything to show. So those guys are in real anything to show. So those guys are in real trouble anything to show. So those guys are in real trouble because anything to show. So those guys are in real trouble because when anything to show. So those guys are in real trouble because when you anything to show. So those guys are in real trouble because when you got in real trouble because when you got Andrew in real trouble because when you got Andrew Little in real trouble because when you got Andrew Little getting in real trouble because when you got Andrew Little getting advice in real trouble because when you got Andrew Little getting advice from Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Clarke Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Clarke that, Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Clarke that, you Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Clarke that, you know, Andrew Little getting advice from Helen Clarke that, you know, son, Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to get Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to get back Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to get back to Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to get back to the Helen Clarke that, you know, son, you got to get back to the centre you got to get back to the centre and you got to get back to the centre and he's you got to get back to the centre and he's saying, you got to get back to the centre and he's saying, "That's you got to get back to the centre and he's saying, "That's actually and he's saying, "That's actually meaningless and he's saying, "That's actually meaningless and and he's saying, "That's actually meaningless and a and he's saying, "That's actually meaningless and a little and he's saying, "That's actually meaningless and a little bit meaningless and a little bit hollow." meaningless and a little bit hollow." When meaningless and a little bit hollow." When you meaningless and a little bit hollow." When you got meaningless and a little bit hollow." When you got Vernon meaningless and a little bit hollow." When you got Vernon Small hollow." When you got Vernon Small saying hollow." When you got Vernon Small saying that hollow." When you got Vernon Small saying that response hollow." When you got Vernon Small saying that response sounds saying that response sounds strangely saying that response sounds meaningless saying that response sounds strangely intense and saying that response sounds strangely intense and odd, saying that response sounds strangely intense and odd, you saying that response sounds strangely intense and odd, you know strangely intense and odd, you know that strangely intense and odd, you know that these strangely intense and odd, you know that these people strangely intense and odd, you know that these people over strangely intense and odd, you know that these people over there strangely intense and odd, you know that these people over there will strangely intense and odd, you know that these people over there will be that these people over there will be looking that these people over there will be looking for that these people over there will be looking for a that these people over there will be looking for a place that these people over there will be looking for a place for that these people over there will be looking for a place for a that these people over there will be looking for a place for a barbecue looking for a place for a barbecue pretty looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon and looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon and they looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon and they know looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon and they know it's looking for a place for a barbecue pretty soon and they know it's going pretty soon and they know it's going to pretty soon and they know it's going to be pretty soon and they know it's going to be urgent. pretty soon and they know it's going to be urgent. Literally pretty soon and they know it's going to be urgent. Literally and to be urgent. Literally and metaphorically, to be urgent. Literally and metaphorically, for to be urgent. Literally and metaphorically, for Andrew to be urgent. Literally and metaphorically, for Andrew Little, metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going to metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going to be metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going to be interesting metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going to be interesting to metaphorically, for Andrew Little, it's going to be interesting to see it's going to be interesting to see what's it's going to be interesting to see what's on it's going to be interesting to see what's on the it's going to be interesting to see what's on the barbecue it's going to be interesting to see what's on the barbecue for it's going to be interesting to see what's on the barbecue for 2016. it's going to be interesting to see what's on the barbecue for 2016. But what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand back what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand back and what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand back and look what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand back and look at what's on the barbecue for 2016. But when you stand back and look at the when you stand back and look at the big when you stand back and look at the big picture, when you stand back and look at the big picture, as when you stand back and look at the big picture, as the when you stand back and look at the big picture, as the Minister when you stand back and look at the big picture, as the Minister of big picture, as the Minister of Finance big picture, as the Minister of Finance was big picture, as the Minister of Finance was saying big picture, as the Minister of Finance was saying earlier, big picture, as the Minister of Finance was saying earlier, you Finance was saying earlier, you know, Finance was saying earlier, you know, there's Finance was saying earlier, you know, there's only Finance was saying earlier, you know, there's only three Finance was saying earlier, you know, there's only three other know, there's only three other countries know, there's only three other countries in know, there's only three other countries in the know, there's only three other countries in the world know, there's only three other countries in the world who know, there's only three other countries in the world who are know, there's only three other countries in the world who are in countries in the world who are in New countries in the world who are in New Zealand's countries in the world who are in New Zealand's position. countries in the world who are in New Zealand's position. You countries in the world who are in New Zealand's position. You got countries in the world who are in New Zealand's position. You got to New Zealand's position. You got to look New Zealand's position. You got to look at New Zealand's position. You got to look at that New Zealand's position. You got to look at that helicopter New Zealand's position. You got to look at that helicopter view. New Zealand's position. You got to look at that helicopter view. I look at that helicopter view. I mean, look at that helicopter view. I mean, wages look at that helicopter view. I mean, wages growing look at that helicopter view. I mean, wages growing far look at that helicopter view. I mean, wages growing far faster look at that helicopter view. I mean, wages growing far faster than mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so wage mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so wage is mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so wage is up mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so wage is up 25% mean, wages growing far faster than inflation, so wage is up 25% over inflation, so wage is up 25% over the inflation, so wage is up 25% over the last inflation, so wage is up 25% over the last eight inflation, so wage is up 25% over the last eight years inflation, so wage is up 25% over the last eight years compared inflation, so wage is up 25% over the last eight years compared to the last eight years compared to inflation the last eight years compared to inflation of the last eight years compared to inflation of about the last eight years compared to inflation of about 12% the last eight years compared to inflation of about 12% cumulatively. inflation of about 12% cumulatively. You inflation of about 12% cumulatively. You have inflation of about 12% cumulatively. You have got inflation of about 12% cumulatively. You have got unemployment inflation of about 12% cumulatively. You have got unemployment continuing You have got unemployment continuing to You have got unemployment continuing You You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and you You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and you have You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and you have got You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and you have got the You have got unemployment continuing to drop, and you have got the books to drop, and you have got the books in to drop, and you have got the books in balance. to drop, and you have got the books in balance. I to drop, and you have got the books in balance. I mean, to drop, and you have got the books in balance. I mean, that to drop, and you have got the books in balance. I mean, that is to drop, and you have got the books in balance. I mean, that is an in balance. I mean, that is an amazing in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position to in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position to be in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position to be in. in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position to be in. A in balance. I mean, that is an amazing position to be in. A future amazing position to be in. A future track amazing position to be in. A future track of amazing position to be in. A future track of 3.5 amazing position to be in. A future track of 3.5 to amazing position to be in. A future track of 3.5 to 4% amazing position to be in. A future track of 3.5 to 4% growth amazing position to be in. A future track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the years track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the years depending track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the years depending on track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the years depending on who track of 3.5 to 4% growth throughout the years depending on who you the years depending on who you listen the years depending on who you listen to, the years depending on who you listen to, giving the years depending on who you listen to, giving the the years depending on who you listen to, giving the Government listen to, giving the Government options listen to, giving the Government options over listen to, giving the Government options over what listen to, giving the Government options over what happens listen to, giving the Government options over what happens with listen to, giving the Government options over what happens with those options over what happens with those surpluses. options over what happens with those surpluses. So options over what happens with those surpluses. So when options over what happens with those surpluses. So when you options over what happens with those surpluses. So when you look options over what happens with those surpluses. So when you look at options over what happens with those surpluses. So when you look at the surpluses. So when you look at the state surpluses. So when you look at the state of surpluses. So when you look at the state of the surpluses. So when you look at the state of the public surpluses. So when you look at the state of the public services surpluses. So when you look at the state of the public services and state of the public services and what state of the public services and what we state of the public services and what we focused state of the public services and what we focused on, state of the public services and what we focused on, there's state of the public services and what we focused on, there's a state of the public services and what we focused on, there's a lot state of the public services and what we focused on, there's a lot to what we focused on, there's a lot to celebrate. what we focused on, there's a lot to celebrate. The what we focused on, there's a lot to celebrate. The health what we focused on, there's a lot to celebrate. The health system what we focused on, there's a lot to celebrate. The health system is celebrate. The health system is running celebrate. The health system is running fantastically, celebrate. The health system is running fantastically, a celebrate. The health system is running fantastically, a great running fantastically, a great injection running fantastically, a great injection of running fantastically, a great injection of $568 running fantastically, a great injection of $568 million running fantastically, a great injection of $568 million at running fantastically, a great injection of $568 million at the injection of $568 million at the budget. injection of $568 million at the budget. Record injection of $568 million at the budget. Record levels injection of $568 million at the budget. Record levels of budget. Record levels of expenditure, budget. Record levels of celebrate. budget. Record levels of expenditure, $16.1 billion budget. Record levels of expenditure, $16.1 billion - budget. Record levels of expenditure, $16.1 billion - we budget. Record levels of expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are doing expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are doing more expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are doing more elective expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are doing more elective surgery expenditure, $16.1 billion - we are doing more elective surgery than doing more elective surgery than ever doing more elective surgery than ever before doing more elective surgery than ever before so doing more elective surgery than ever before so we doing more elective surgery than ever before so we have doing more elective surgery than ever before so we have raised doing more elective surgery than ever before so we have raised those ever before so we have raised those electives ever before so we have raised those electives by ever before so we have raised those electives by about ever before so we have raised those electives by about 60,000 ever before so we have raised those electives by about 60,000 a ever before so we have raised those electives by about 60,000 a year electives by about 60,000 a year from electives by about 60,000 a year from around electives by about 60,000 a year from around 120 electives by about 60,000 a year from around 120 to electives by about 60,000 a year from around 120 to 180,000. electives by about 60,000 a year from around 120 to 180,000. We from around 120 to 180,000. We raised from around 120 to 180,000. We raised the from around 120 to 180,000. We raised the availability from around 120 to 180,000. We raised the availability of raised the availability of appointments raised the availability of appointments by raised the availability of appointments by 110,000 raised the availability of appointments by 110,000 from raised the availability of appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. I appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. I was appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. I was talking appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. I was talking today appointments by 110,000 from 430,000 to 540,000. I was talking today in to 540,000. I was talking today in the to 540,000. I was talking today in the house, to 540,000. I was talking today in the house, Mr to 540,000. I was talking today in the house, Mr Speaker, to 540,000. I was talking today in the house, Mr Speaker, about to 540,000. I was talking today in the house, Mr Speaker, about what's the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in terms the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in terms of the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in terms of those the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in terms of those free the house, Mr Speaker, about what's happened in terms of those free GP happened in terms of those free GP visits happened in terms of those free GP visits for happened in terms of those free GP visits for under happened in terms of those free GP visits for under 13s, happened in terms of those free GP visits for under 13s, you happened in terms of those free GP visits for under 13s, you know, happened in terms of those free GP visits for under 13s, you know, far visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer people visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer people going visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer people going to visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer people going to ED visits for under 13s, you know, far fewer people going to ED departments fewer people going to ED departments as fewer people going to ED departments as a fewer people going to ED departments as a result fewer people going to ED departments as a result of fewer people going to ED departments as a result of that. fewer people going to ED departments as a result of that. So fewer people going to ED departments as a result of that. So our fewer people going to ED departments as a result of that. So our young as a result of that. So our young people as a result of that. So our young people are as a result of that. So our young people are staying as a result of that. So our young people are staying out as a result of that. So our young people are staying out of as a result of that. So our young people are staying out of hospital, people are staying out of hospital, they're people are staying out of hospital, they're staying people are staying out of hospital, they're staying weller people are staying out of hospital, they're staying weller for people are staying out of hospital, they're staying weller for longer, they're staying weller for longer, very they're staying weller for longer, they're they're staying weller for longer, very much aligned they're staying weller for longer, very much aligned with they're staying weller for longer, very much aligned with the they're staying weller for longer, very much aligned with the health very much aligned with the health strategy. very much aligned with the health strategy. We very much aligned with the health strategy. We have very much aligned with the health strategy. We have heard very much aligned with the health strategy. We have heard about strategy. We have heard about housing strategy. We have heard about housing and strategy. We have heard about housing and my strategy. We have heard about housing and my electorate strategy. We have heard about housing and my electorate of housing and my electorate of Northcote, housing and my electorate of Northcote, fantastic housing and my electorate of Northcote, fantastic redevelopment Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of the Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of the Northcote Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of the Northcote town Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of the Northcote town centre Northcote, fantastic redevelopment of the Northcote town centre where of the Northcote town centre where 400 of the Northcote town centre where 400 state of the Northcote town centre where 400 state houses of the Northcote town centre where 400 state houses are of the Northcote town centre where 400 state houses are going of the Northcote town centre where 400 state houses are going to of the Northcote town centre where 400 state houses are going to be 400 state houses are going to be replaced 400 state houses are going to be replaced by 400 state houses are going to be replaced by 1200 400 state houses are going to be replaced by 1200 affordable 400 state houses are going to be replaced by 1200 affordable houses. replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that is replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that is the replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that is the sort replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that is the sort of replaced by 1200 affordable houses. So that is the sort of progress So that is the sort of progress we're So that is the sort of progress we're getting. So that is the sort of progress we're getting. We So that is the sort of progress we're getting. We have So that is the sort of progress we're getting. We have great So that is the sort of progress we're getting. We have great house we're getting. We have great house building we're getting. We have great house building projects we're getting. We have great house building projects in we're getting. We have great house building projects in Christchurch. building projects in Christchurch. We building projects in Christchurch. We heard building projects in Christchurch. We heard about building projects in Christchurch. We heard about Tamaki, building projects in Christchurch. We heard about Tamaki, we building projects in Christchurch. We heard about Tamaki, we got building projects in Christchurch. We heard about Tamaki, we got land We heard about Tamaki, we got land for We heard about Tamaki, we got land for 30,000 We heard about Tamaki, we got land for 30,000 new We heard about Tamaki, we got land for 30,000 new dwellings We heard about Tamaki, we got land for 30,000 new dwellings across for 30,000 new dwellings across Auckland, for 30,000 new dwellings across Auckland, real for 30,000 new dwellings across Auckland, real progress for 30,000 new dwellings across Auckland, real progress being for 30,000 new dwellings across Auckland, real progress being made. Auckland, real progress being made. Real Auckland, real progress being made. Real innovative Auckland, real progress being made. Real innovative steps Auckland, real progress being made. Real innovative steps being Auckland, real progress being made. Real innovative steps being taken Auckland, real progress being made. Real innovative steps being taken by Real innovative steps being taken by the Real innovative steps being taken by the Minister Real innovative steps being taken by the Minister of Real innovative steps being taken by the Minister of Education Real innovative steps being taken by the Minister of Education to Real innovative steps being taken by the Minister of Education to raise the Minister of Education to raise standards the Minister of Education to raise standards to the Minister of Education to raise standards to get the Minister of Education to raise standards to get the the Minister of Education to raise standards to get the education standards to get the education system standards to get the education system moving. standards to get the education system moving. The standards to get the education system moving. The Minister standards to get the education system moving. The Minister of system moving. The Minister of Social system moving. The Minister of Social Development, system moving. The Minister of Social Development, Anne system moving. The Minister of Social Development, Anne Tolley, Social Development, Anne Tolley, continuing Social Development, Anne Tolley, system Social Development, Anne Tolley, continuing to get Social Development, Anne Tolley, continuing to get people Social Development, Anne Tolley, continuing to get people off continuing to get people off benefits continuing to get people off benefits and continuing to get people off benefits and back continuing to get people off benefits and back into continuing to get people off benefits and back into work. continuing to get people off benefits and back into work. So continuing to get people off benefits and back into work. So we benefits and back into work. So we are benefits and back into work. So we are focusing benefits and back into work. So we are focusing on benefits and back into work. So we are focusing on the benefits and back into work. So we are focusing on the things benefits and back into work. So we are focusing on the things that are focusing on the things that really are focusing on the things that really matter are focusing on the things that really matter for are focusing on the things that really matter for people. are focusing on the things that really matter for people. And are focusing on the things that really matter for people. And when really matter for people. And when you really matter for people. And when you look really matter for people. And when you look at really matter for people. And when you look at the really matter for people. And when you look at the choices really matter for people. And when you look at the choices that really matter for people. And when you look at the choices that the you look at the choices that the electorate you look at the choices that the electorate is you look at the choices that the electorate is going you look at the choices that the electorate is going to you look at the choices that the electorate is going to face you look at the choices that the electorate is going to face in you look at the choices that the electorate is going to face in 2017, electorate is going to face in 2017, there electorate is going to face in 2017, there is electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going to electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going to be electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going to be a electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going to be a real electorate is going to face in 2017, there is going to be a real clear there is going to be a real clear difference there is going to be a real clear difference there there is going to be a real clear difference there for there is going to be a real clear difference there for them. there is going to be a real clear difference there for them. Going there is going to be a real clear difference there for them. Going to difference there for them. Going to be difference there for them. Going to be this difference there for them. Going to be this eight, difference there for them. Going to be this eight, nine difference there for them. Going to be this eight, nine years difference there for them. Going to be this eight, nine years by difference there for them. Going to be this eight, nine years by that be this eight, nine years by that stage, be this eight, nine years by that stage, of be this eight, nine years by that stage, of clear be this eight, nine years by that stage, of clear achievement, stage, of clear achievement, focusing stage, of clear achievement, focusing on stage, of clear achievement, focusing on the stage, of clear achievement, focusing on the things stage, of clear achievement, focusing on the things that stage, of clear achievement, focusing on the things that are focusing on the things that are important focusing on the things that are important to focusing on the things that are important to New focusing on the things that are important to New Zealanders, focusing on the things that are important to New Zealanders, the important to New Zealanders, the economy, important to New Zealanders, the economy, law important to New Zealanders, the economy, law and important to New Zealanders, the economy, law and order, important to New Zealanders, the economy, law and order, health important to New Zealanders, the economy, law and order, health and economy, law and order, health and education economy, law and order, health and education, economy, law and order, health and education, and economy, law and order, health and education, and meanwhile, economy, law and order, health and education, and meanwhile, what economy, law and order, health and education, and meanwhile, what will education, and meanwhile, what will those education, and meanwhile, what will those on education, and meanwhile, what will those on the education, and meanwhile, what will those on the other education, and meanwhile, what will those on the other side education, and meanwhile, what will those on the other side have education, and meanwhile, what will those on the other side have to education, and meanwhile, what will those on the other side have to show those on the other side have to show for those on the other side have to show for their those on the other side have to show for their nine those on the other side have to show for their nine years those on the other side have to show for their nine years in those on the other side have to show for their nine years in Opposition? for their nine years in Opposition? Very for their nine years in Opposition? Very little. for their nine years in Opposition? Very little. We for their nine years in Opposition? Very little. We haven't for their nine years in Opposition? Very little. We haven't heard for their nine years in Opposition? Very little. We haven't heard any Very little. We haven't heard any policy Very little. We haven't heard any policy from Very little. We haven't heard any policy from them. Very little. We haven't heard any policy from them. No Very little. We haven't heard any policy from them. No new Very little. We haven't heard any policy from them. No new ideas. Very little. We haven't heard any policy from them. No new ideas. All policy from them. No new ideas. All we policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear are policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear are these policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear are these rumours policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear are these rumours of policy from them. No new ideas. All we hear are these rumours of dissent we hear are these rumours of dissent and we hear are these rumours of dissent and how we hear are these rumours of dissent and how they we hear are these rumours of dissent and how they like we hear are these rumours of dissent and how they like to we hear are these rumours of dissent and how they like to remove we hear are these rumours of dissent and how they like to remove Andrew and how they like to remove Andrew Little and how they like to remove Andrew Little but and how they like to remove Andrew Little but of and how they like to remove Andrew Little but of course and how they like to remove Andrew Little but of course with and how they like to remove Andrew Little but of course with their Little but of course with their crazy Little but of course with their crazy constitutional Little but of course with their crazy constitutional arrangements, crazy constitutional arrangements, they crazy constitutional arrangements, crazy crazy constitutional arrangements, they have got crazy constitutional arrangements, they have got absolutely crazy constitutional arrangements, they have got absolutely no crazy constitutional arrangements, they have got absolutely no chance they have got absolutely no chance of they have got absolutely no chance of ever they have got absolutely no chance of ever achieving they have got absolutely no chance of ever achieving that. they have got absolutely no chance of ever achieving that. So, they have got absolutely no chance of ever achieving that. So, Mr of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, Christmas of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, Christmas 2016 of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, Christmas 2016 - of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where of ever achieving that. So, Mr Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going to Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going to be? Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going to be? It Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going to be? It will Speaker, Christmas 2016 - where is the barbecue going to be? It will be the barbecue going to be? It will be interesting. Metiria Metiria Turei. Metiria Turei. Thank Metiria Turei. Thank you, Metiria Turei. 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It's things like having your kids' It's things like having your kids' birthday It's things like having your kids' birthday parties It's things like having your kids' birthday parties in It's things like having your kids' birthday parties in the It's things like having your kids' birthday parties in the backyard. birthday parties in the backyard. Like birthday parties in the backyard. Like planting birthday parties in the backyard. Like planting a birthday parties in the backyard. Like planting a vegie birthday parties in the backyard. Like planting a vegie garden birthday parties in the backyard. Like planting a vegie garden for birthday parties in the backyard. 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