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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. Point Point of Point of order, Point of order, Mr Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Andrew Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Andrew Little. Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Andrew Little. I Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Andrew Little. I seek Point of order, Mr Speaker. Point of order, Andrew Little. I seek leave order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a notice order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a notice on order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a notice on the order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a notice on the death order, Andrew Little. I seek leave to move a notice on the death of to move a notice on the death of Helen to move a notice on the death of Helen Kelly. to move a notice on the death of Helen Kelly. Leave to move a notice on the death of Helen Kelly. Leave is to move a notice on the death of Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. to move a notice on the death of Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there any Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there any objection? Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is Helen Kelly. Leave is sought. Is there any objection? There is none. there any objection? There is none. I there any objection? There is none. I move there any objection? There is none. I move that there any objection? There is none. I move that this there any objection? There is none. I move that this House there any objection? There is none. I move that this House mourns there any objection? There is none. I move that this House mourns the I move that this House mourns the passing I move that this House mourns the passing of I move that this House mourns the passing of Helen I move that this House mourns the passing of Helen Kelly, I move that this House mourns the passing of Helen Kelly, who I move that this House mourns the passing of Helen Kelly, who was I move that this House mourns the passing of Helen Kelly, who was a passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion for passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion for working passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion for working people passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion for working people and passing of Helen Kelly, who was a champion for working people and who champion for working people and who fought champion for working people and who fought for champion for working people and who fought for a champion for working people and who fought for a more champion for working people and who fought for a more just champion for working people and who fought for a more just and champion for working people and who fought for a more just and fair champion for working people and who fought for a more just and fair New fought for a more just and fair New Zealand fought for a more just and fair New Zealand and fought for a more just and fair New Zealand and express fought for a more just and fair New Zealand and express our fought for a more just and fair New Zealand and express our condolences Zealand and express our condolences to Zealand and express our condolences to her Zealand and express our condolences to her loved Zealand and express our condolences to her loved ones. Zealand and express our condolences to her loved ones. Mr Zealand and express our condolences to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Zealand and express our condolences to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly was to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly was raised to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly was raised in to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly was raised in a to her loved ones. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly was raised in a household Kelly was raised in a household built Kelly was raised in a household built on Kelly was raised in a household built on values, Kelly was raised in a household built on values, principles, built on values, principles, convictions built on values, principles, convictions and built on values, principles, convictions and immense convictions and immense determination. convictions and immense determination. She convictions and immense determination. She knew convictions and immense determination. She knew what convictions and immense determination. She knew what it convictions and immense determination. She knew what it was determination. She knew what it was to determination. She knew what it was to believe determination. She knew what it was to believe in determination. She knew what it was to believe in a determination. She knew what it was to believe in a cause determination. She knew what it was to believe in a cause to determination. She knew what it was to believe in a cause to champion determination. She knew what it was to believe in a cause to champion it to believe in a cause to champion it and to believe in a cause to champion it and to to believe in a cause to champion it and to be to believe in a cause to champion it and to be active to believe in a cause to champion it and to be active in to believe in a cause to champion it and to be active in it. to believe in a cause to champion it and to be active in it. Helen's and to be active in it. Helen's political and to be active in it. Helen's political and and to be active in it. Helen's political and industrial and to be active in it. Helen's political and industrial leadership political and industrial leadership began political and industrial leadership began with political and industrial leadership began with her political and industrial leadership began with her championing political and industrial leadership began with her championing the political and industrial leadership began with her championing the cause began with her championing the cause of began with her championing the cause of early began with her championing the cause of early childhood began with her championing the cause of early childhood teachers. began with her championing the cause of early childhood teachers. At began with her championing the cause of early childhood teachers. At a of early childhood teachers. At a young of early childhood teachers. At a young age, of early childhood teachers. At a young age, she of early childhood teachers. At a young age, she was of early childhood teachers. At a young age, she was involved of early childhood teachers. At a young age, she was involved in young age, she was involved in negotiating young age, she was involved in negotiating with young age, she was involved in negotiating with senior young age, she was involved in negotiating with senior education negotiating with senior education officials negotiating with senior education officials and negotiating with senior education officials and with negotiating with senior education officials and with education officials and with education ministers officials and with education ministers to officials and with education ministers to improve officials and with education ministers to improve the officials and with education ministers to improve the terms officials and with education ministers to improve the terms and ministers to improve the terms and conditions ministers to improve the terms and conditions for ministers to improve the terms and conditions for teaching ministers to improve the terms and conditions for teaching staff conditions for teaching staff dealing conditions for teaching staff dealing with conditions for teaching staff dealing with what conditions for teaching staff dealing with what is conditions for teaching staff dealing with what is now conditions for teaching staff dealing with what is now recognised dealing with what is now recognised as dealing with what is now recognised as the dealing with what is now recognised as the crucial dealing with what is now recognised as the crucial years dealing with what is now recognised as the crucial years for dealing with what is now recognised as the crucial years for our dealing with what is now recognised as the crucial years for our young. as the crucial years for our young. Helen as the crucial years for our young. Helen followed as the crucial years for our young. Helen followed her as the crucial years for our young. Helen followed her achievements as the crucial years for our young. Helen followed her achievements in Helen followed her achievements in the Helen followed her achievements in the early Helen followed her achievements in the early childhood Helen followed her achievements in the early childhood sector Helen followed her achievements in the early childhood sector with Helen followed her achievements in the early childhood sector with a the early childhood sector with a number the early childhood sector with a number of the early childhood sector with a number of senior the early childhood sector with a number of senior positions the early childhood sector with a number of senior positions in the early childhood sector with a number of senior positions in unions number of senior positions in unions until number of senior positions in unions until 2007, number of senior positions in unions until 2007, when number of senior positions in unions until 2007, when she number of senior positions in unions until 2007, when she was number of senior positions in unions until 2007, when she was elected number of senior positions in unions until 2007, when she was elected to until 2007, when she was elected to lead until 2007, when she was elected to lead the until 2007, when she was elected to lead the union until 2007, when she was elected to lead the union movement until 2007, when she was elected to lead the union movement as until 2007, when she was elected to lead the union movement as president lead the union movement as president of lead the union movement as president of the lead the union movement as president of the New lead the union movement as president of the New Zealand lead the union movement as president of the New Zealand Council lead the union movement as president of the New Zealand Council of lead the union movement as president of the New Zealand Council of Trade of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. She of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. She brought of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. She brought immense of the New Zealand Council of Trade Unions. She brought immense spirit Unions. She brought immense spirit and Unions. She brought immense spirit and energy Unions. She brought immense spirit and energy and Unions. She brought immense spirit and energy and integrity Unions. She brought immense spirit and energy and integrity to Unions. She brought immense spirit and energy and integrity to the and energy and integrity to the movement. and energy and integrity to the movement. As and energy and integrity to the movement. As president and energy and integrity to the movement. As president of and energy and integrity to the movement. As president of the movement. As president of the Council movement. As president of the Council of movement. As president of the Council of Trade movement. As president of the Council of Trade Unions, movement. As president of the Council of Trade Unions, Helen movement. As president of the Council of Trade Unions, Helen had Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no particular Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no particular power Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no particular power to Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no particular power to direct Council of Trade Unions, Helen had no particular power to direct or no particular power to direct or instruct no particular power to direct or instruct member no particular power to direct or instruct member unions no particular power to direct or instruct member unions on no particular power to direct or instruct member unions on what no particular power to direct or instruct member unions on what they instruct member unions on what they should instruct member unions on what they should do. instruct member unions on what they should do. But instruct member unions on what they should do. But she instruct member unions on what they should do. But she didn't instruct member unions on what they should do. But she didn't need should do. But she didn't need formal should do. But she didn't need formal authority should do. But she didn't need formal authority to should do. But she didn't need formal authority to do should do. But she didn't need formal authority to do so. should do. But she didn't need formal authority to do so. She should do. But she didn't need formal authority to do so. She used formal authority to do so. She used her formal authority to do so. She used her impressive formal authority to do so. She used her impressive powers formal authority to do so. She used her impressive powers of formal authority to do so. She used her impressive powers of persuasion her impressive powers of persuasion to her impressive powers of persuasion to unite her impressive powers of persuasion to unite and her impressive powers of persuasion to unite and mobilise her impressive powers of persuasion to unite and mobilise the her impressive powers of persuasion to unite and mobilise the union to unite and mobilise the union movement. to unite and mobilise the union movement. She to unite and mobilise the union movement. She challenged to unite and mobilise the union movement. She challenged many to unite and mobilise the union movement. She challenged many unions movement. She challenged many unions to movement. She challenged many unions to modernise movement. She challenged many unions to modernise and movement. She challenged many unions to modernise and union movement. She challenged many unions to modernise and union leaders movement. She challenged many unions to modernise and union leaders to to modernise and union leaders to lead to modernise and union leaders to lead from to modernise and union leaders to lead from the to modernise and union leaders to lead from the front. to modernise and union leaders to lead from the front. She to modernise and union leaders to lead from the front. She embroiled lead from the front. She embroiled herself lead from the front. She embroiled herself in lead from the front. She embroiled herself in disputes lead from the front. She embroiled herself in disputes when lead from the front. She embroiled herself in disputes when she lead from the front. She embroiled herself in disputes when she saw herself in disputes when she saw that herself in disputes when she saw that the herself in disputes when she saw that the weight herself in disputes when she saw that the weight of herself in disputes when she saw that the weight of her herself in disputes when she saw that the weight of her office herself in disputes when she saw that the weight of her office could that the weight of her office could make that the weight of her office could make a that the weight of her office could make a difference. that the weight of her office could make a difference. At that the weight of her office could make a difference. At the that the weight of her office could make a difference. At the time, that the weight of her office could make a difference. At the time, for make a difference. At the time, for example, make a difference. At the time, for example, of make a difference. At the time, for example, of the make a difference. At the time, for example, of the global make a difference. At the time, for example, of the global financial example, of the global financial crisis, example, of the global financial crisis, and example, of the global financial crisis, and when example, of the global financial crisis, and when this example, of the global financial crisis, and when this Government example, of the global financial crisis, and when this Government was crisis, and when this Government was freshly crisis, and when this Government was freshly in crisis, and when this Government was freshly in office, crisis, and when this Government was freshly in office, she crisis, and when this Government was freshly in office, she led crisis, and when this Government was freshly in office, she led the freshly in office, she led the unions freshly in office, she led the unions in freshly in office, she led the unions in negotiating freshly in office, she led the unions in negotiating with freshly in office, she led the unions in negotiating with the unions in negotiating with the Government unions in negotiating with the Government and unions in negotiating with the Government and employers unions in negotiating with the Government and employers a unions in negotiating with the Government and employers a the unions in negotiating with the Government and employers a the 9-day Government and employers a the 9-day working Government and employers a the 9-day working fortnight Government and employers a the 9-day working fortnight scheme Government and employers a the 9-day working fortnight scheme to Government and employers a the 9-day working fortnight scheme to assist working fortnight scheme to assist some working fortnight scheme to assist some businesses working fortnight scheme to assist some businesses and working fortnight scheme to assist some businesses and many working fortnight scheme to assist some businesses and many workers. some businesses and many workers. And some businesses and many workers. And I some businesses and many workers. And I still some businesses and many workers. And I still vividly some businesses and many workers. And I still vividly recall some businesses and many workers. And I still vividly recall one And I still vividly recall one Thursday And I still vividly recall one Thursday evening And I still vividly recall one Thursday evening sitting And I still vividly recall one Thursday evening sitting in And I still vividly recall one Thursday evening sitting in a Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant on Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant on Simon Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant on Simon Street Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant on Simon Street at Thursday evening sitting in a restaurant on Simon Street at the restaurant on Simon Street at the time restaurant on Simon Street at the time of restaurant on Simon Street at the time of all restaurant on Simon Street at the time of all this, restaurant on Simon Street at the time of all this, and restaurant on Simon Street at the time of all this, and we restaurant on Simon Street at the time of all this, and we were time of all this, and we were talking time of all this, and we were talking about time of all this, and we were talking about how time of all this, and we were talking about how we time of all this, and we were talking about how we could time of all this, and we were talking about how we could make time of all this, and we were talking about how we could make this talking about how we could make this 9-day talking about how we could make this 9-day fortnight talking about how we could make this 9-day fortnight work. talking about how we could make this 9-day fortnight work. And talking about how we could make this 9-day fortnight work. And somebody 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up with 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up with a 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up with a brilliant 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up with a brilliant idea 9-day fortnight work. And somebody came up with a brilliant idea and came up with a brilliant idea and she came up with a brilliant idea and she said, came up with a brilliant idea and she said, "Oh, came up with a brilliant idea and she said, "Oh, I'll came up with a brilliant idea and she said, "Oh, I'll text came up with a brilliant idea and she said, "Oh, I'll text John." came up with a brilliant idea and she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that John she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that John was she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that John was the she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that John was the PM. she said, "Oh, I'll text John." It turns out that John was the PM. And turns out that John was the PM. And we turns out that John was the PM. And we were turns out that John was the PM. And we were very turns out that John was the PM. And we were very surprised turns out that John was the PM. And we were very surprised to turns out that John was the PM. And we were very surprised to learn we were very surprised to learn that. we were very surprised to learn that. We we were very surprised to learn that. We were we were very surprised to learn that. We were even we were very surprised to learn that. We were even more we were very surprised to learn that. We were even more surprised that. We were even more surprised quh, that. We were even more surprised quh, after that. We were even more surprised quh, after having that. We were even more surprised quh, after having texted that. We were even more surprised quh, after having texted the that. We were even more surprised quh, after having texted the PM, that. We were even more surprised quh, after having texted the PM, she quh, after having texted the PM, she -- quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after having quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after having texted quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after having texted the quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after having texted the PM quh, after having texted the PM, she -- after having texted the PM she -- after having texted the PM she got -- after having texted the PM she got a -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It turns -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It turns out -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It turns out he -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It turns out he was -- after having texted the PM she got a reply. It turns out he was two got a reply. It turns out he was two doors got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down the got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down the road got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down the road at got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down the road at a got a reply. It turns out he was two doors down the road at a different doors down the road at a different restaurant. doors down the road at a different restaurant. We doors down the road at a different restaurant. We urged doors down the road at a different restaurant. We urged her doors down the road at a different restaurant. We urged her to doors down the road at a different restaurant. We urged her to continue restaurant. We urged her to continue down restaurant. We urged her to continue down there restaurant. We urged her to continue down there to restaurant. We urged her to continue down there to continue restaurant. We urged her to continue down there to continue the down there to continue the discussions. down there to continue the discussions. She down there to continue the discussions. She said, down there to continue the discussions. She said, "No, down there to continue the discussions. She said, "No, even discussions. She said, "No, even Tory discussions. She said, "No, even Tory prime discussions. She said, "No, even Tory prime ministers discussions. She said, "No, even Tory prime ministers need discussions. She said, "No, even Tory prime ministers need a discussions. She said, "No, even Tory prime ministers need a night Tory prime ministers need a night off." Tory prime ministers need a night off." Mr Tory prime ministers need a night off." Mr Speaker, Tory prime ministers need a night off." Mr Speaker, Helen Tory prime ministers need a night off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly Tory prime ministers need a night off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the way off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the way in off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the way in many off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the way in many disputes off." Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly led the way in many disputes involving the way in many disputes involving meat the way in many disputes involving meat workers, the way in many disputes involving meat workers, dairy the way in many disputes involving meat workers, dairy workers the way in many disputes involving meat workers, dairy workers and the way in many disputes involving meat workers, dairy workers and pork meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. She meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. She led meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. She led the meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. She led the fight meat workers, dairy workers and pork workers. She led the fight for workers. She led the fight for justice workers. She led the fight for justice for workers. She led the fight for justice for the workers. She led the fight for justice for the families workers. She led the fight for justice for the families of workers. She led the fight for justice for the families of the justice for the families of the victims justice for the families of the victims of justice for the families of the victims of Pike justice for the families of the victims of Pike River. justice for the families of the victims of Pike River. But justice for the families of the victims of Pike River. But there justice for the families of the victims of Pike River. But there are victims of Pike River. But there are two victims of Pike River. But there are two fight victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that is victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that is she victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that is she took victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that is she took on victims of Pike River. But there are two fight that is she took on that, two fight that is she took on that, in two fight that is she took on that, in my two fight that is she took on that, in my view, two fight that is she took on that, in my view, stand two fight that is she took on that, in my view, stand out. two fight that is she took on that, in my view, stand out. The two fight that is she took on that, in my view, stand out. The fight two fight that is she took on that, in my view, stand out. The fight for in my view, stand out. The fight for better in my view, stand out. The fight for better health in my view, stand out. The fight for better health and in my view, stand out. The fight for better health and safety in my view, stand out. The fight for better health and safety in in my view, stand out. The fight for better health and safety in the better health and safety in the forestry better health and safety in the forestry industry. better health and safety in the forestry industry. Her better health and safety in the forestry industry. Her efforts better health and safety in the forestry industry. Her efforts have forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, and forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, and will forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, and will continue forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, and will continue to forestry industry. Her efforts have saved, and will continue to save, saved, and will continue to save, lives. saved, and will continue to save, lives. She saved, and will continue to save, lives. She stood saved, and will continue to save, lives. She stood up saved, and will continue to save, lives. She stood up to saved, and will continue to save, lives. She stood up to an saved, and will continue to save, lives. She stood up to an industry lives. She stood up to an industry that lives. She stood up to an industry that had lives. She stood up to an industry that had changed lives. She stood up to an industry that had changed radically, lives. She stood up to an industry that had changed radically, that lives. She stood up to an industry that had changed radically, that had that had changed radically, that had hundreds that had changed radically, that had hundreds of that had changed radically, that had hundreds of little that had changed radically, that had hundreds of little employers, that had changed radically, that had hundreds of little employers, some hundreds of little employers, some big, hundreds of little employers, some big, powering hundreds of little employers, some big, powering vested hundreds of little employers, some big, powering vested corporate hundreds of little employers, some hundreds hundreds of little employers, some interests, who had hundreds of little employers, some interests, who had let hundreds of little employers, some interests, who had let standards hundreds of little employers, some interests, who had let standards in interests, who had let standards in that interests, who had let standards in that industry interests, who had let standards in that industry deteriorate. interests, who had let standards in that industry deteriorate. And interests, who had let standards in that industry deteriorate. And we that industry deteriorate. And we must that industry deteriorate. And we must never that industry deteriorate. And we must never forget that industry deteriorate. And we must never forget how that industry deteriorate. And we must never forget how that that industry deteriorate. And we must never forget how that industry must never forget how that industry let must never forget how that industry let worker must never forget how that industry let worker health must never forget how that industry let worker health and must never forget how that industry let worker health and safety must never forget how that industry let worker health and safety get must never forget how that industry let worker health and safety get so let worker health and safety get so bad. let worker health and safety get so bad. But let worker health and safety get so bad. But perhaps let worker health and safety get so bad. But perhaps the let worker health and safety get so bad. But perhaps the hardest let worker health and safety get so bad. But perhaps the hardest fight bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took on, bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took on, at bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took on, at least bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took on, at least until bad. But perhaps the hardest fight Helen took on, at least until last Helen took on, at least until last year, Helen took on, at least until last year, was Helen took on, at least until last year, was the Helen took on, at least until last year, was the Hobbit Helen took on, at least until last year, was the Hobbit dispute. Helen took on, at least until last year, was the Hobbit dispute. That year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an ugly year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an ugly fight. year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an ugly fight. Helen year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an ugly fight. Helen faced year, was the Hobbit dispute. That was an ugly fight. Helen faced one was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of the was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of the most was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of the most powerful was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of the most powerful industries was an ugly fight. Helen faced one of the most powerful industries - of the most powerful industries - the of the most powerful industries - the might of the most powerful industries - the might of of the most powerful industries - the might of Hollywood of the most powerful industries - the might of Hollywood and of the most powerful industries - the might of Hollywood and its of the most powerful industries - the might of Hollywood and its local the might of Hollywood and its local associates. the might of Hollywood and its local associates. It the might of Hollywood and its local associates. It was the might of Hollywood and its local associates. It was a the might of Hollywood and its local associates. It was a dispute the might of Hollywood and its local associates. It was a dispute that associates. It was a dispute that would associates. It was a dispute that would result associates. It was a dispute that would result in associates. It was a dispute that would result in one associates. It was a dispute that would result in one of associates. It was a dispute that would result in one of the associates. It was a dispute that would result in one of the most would result in one of the most expedient, would result in one of the most expedient, unnecessary would result in one of the most expedient, unnecessary and expedient, unnecessary and unprincipled expedient, unnecessary and unprincipled laws expedient, unnecessary and unprincipled laws in expedient, unnecessary and unprincipled laws in this expedient, unnecessary and unprincipled laws in this country, unprincipled laws in this country, which unprincipled laws in this country, which still unprincipled laws in this country, which still breaches unprincipled laws in this country, which still breaches our which still breaches our international which still breaches our international obligations which still breaches our international obligations and international obligations and remains international obligations and remains an international obligations and remains an embarrassment international obligations and remains an embarrassment amongst international obligations and remains an embarrassment amongst the remains an embarrassment amongst the community remains an embarrassment amongst the community of remains an embarrassment amongst the community of developed remains an embarrassment amongst the community of developed nations. remains an embarrassment amongst the community of developed nations. But community of developed nations. But even community of developed nations. But even after community of developed nations. But even after all community of developed nations. But even after all that, community of developed nations. But even after all that, Mr community of developed nations. But even after all that, Mr Speaker, community of developed nations. But even after all that, Mr Speaker, the even after all that, Mr Speaker, the tributes even after all that, Mr Speaker, the tributes that even after all that, Mr Speaker, the tributes that flowed even after all that, Mr Speaker, the tributes that flowed last even after all that, Mr Speaker, the tributes that flowed last Friday tributes that flowed last Friday came tributes that flowed last Friday came from tributes that flowed last Friday came from all tributes that flowed last Friday came from all quarters. tributes that flowed last Friday came from all quarters. Even tributes that flowed last Friday came from all quarters. Even amongst came from all quarters. Even amongst some came from all quarters. Even amongst some of came from all quarters. Even amongst some of her came from all quarters. Even amongst some of her fiercest came from all quarters. Even amongst some of her fiercest opponents. came from all quarters. Even amongst some of her fiercest opponents. She some of her fiercest opponents. She had some of her fiercest opponents. She had won some of her fiercest opponents. She had won their some of her fiercest opponents. She had won their respect. some of her fiercest opponents. She had won their respect. On some of her fiercest opponents. She had won their respect. On Friday, some of her fiercest opponents. She had won their respect. On Friday, we had won their respect. On Friday, we lost had won their respect. On Friday, we lost a had won their respect. On Friday, we lost a great had won their respect. On Friday, we lost a great New had won their respect. On Friday, we lost a great New Zealander. had won their respect. On Friday, we lost a great New Zealander. Faced lost a great New Zealander. Faced with lost a great New Zealander. Faced with something lost a great New Zealander. Faced with something more lost a great New Zealander. Faced with something more uncompromising, with something more uncompromising, more with something more uncompromising, more relentless, with something more uncompromising, more relentless, and, with something more uncompromising, more relentless, and, in with something more uncompromising, more relentless, and, in the with something more uncompromising, more relentless, and, in the end, more relentless, and, in the end, unstoppable, more relentless, and, in the end, unstoppable, Helen more relentless, and, in the end, unstoppable, Helen was more relentless, and, in the end, unstoppable, Helen was stopped. more relentless, and, in the end, unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, Helen unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly did unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly did not unstoppable, Helen was stopped. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as a Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as a hero. Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as a hero. She Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as a hero. She was Speaker, Helen Kelly did not see herself as a hero. She was a herself as a hero. She was a champion, herself as a hero. She was a champion, an herself as a hero. She was a champion, an advocate, herself as a hero. She was a champion, an advocate, an herself as a hero. She was a champion, an advocate, an agitator. champion, an advocate, an agitator. She champion, an advocate, an agitator. She epitomised champion, an advocate, an agitator. She epitomised the champion, an advocate, an agitator. She epitomised the best champion, an advocate, an agitator. She epitomised the best of champion, an advocate, an agitator. She epitomised the best of New She epitomised the best of New Zealand She epitomised the best of New Zealand values. She epitomised the best of New Zealand values. When She epitomised the best of New Zealand values. When she She epitomised the best of New Zealand values. When she saw She epitomised the best of New Zealand values. When she saw others Zealand values. When she saw others in Zealand values. When she saw others in need, Zealand values. When she saw others in need, she Zealand values. When she saw others in need, she offered Zealand values. When she saw others in need, she offered to Zealand values. When she saw others in need, she offered to help. Zealand values. When she saw others in need, she offered to help. When in need, she offered to help. When she in need, she offered to help. When she saw in need, she offered to help. When she saw injustice, in need, she offered to help. When she saw injustice, she in need, she offered to help. When she saw injustice, she strove in need, she offered to help. When she saw injustice, she strove to she saw injustice, she strove to correct she saw injustice, she strove to correct it. she saw injustice, she strove to correct it. When she saw injustice, she strove to correct it. When she she saw injustice, she strove to correct it. When she saw she saw injustice, she strove to correct it. When she saw the correct it. When she saw the opportunity correct it. When she saw the opportunity to correct it. When she saw the opportunity to fight correct it. When she saw the opportunity to fight for correct it. When she saw the opportunity to fight for progressive opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, she opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, she climbed opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, she climbed in, opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, she climbed in, boots opportunity to fight for progressive ideals, she climbed in, boots and ideals, she climbed in, boots and all, ideals, she climbed in, boots and all, uncompromisingly, ideals, she climbed in, boots and all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one goal all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one goal - all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one goal - to all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one goal - to make all, uncompromisingly, relentlessly, and with one goal - to make positive and with one goal - to make positive change. and with one goal - to make positive change. She and with one goal - to make positive change. She moved and with one goal - to make positive change. She moved between and with one goal - to make positive change. She moved between her and with one goal - to make positive change. She moved between her roles change. She moved between her roles of change. She moved between her roles of union change. She moved between her roles of union leader, change. She moved between her roles of union leader, colleague, change. She moved between her roles of union leader, colleague, friend, of union leader, colleague, friend, partner, of union leader, colleague, friend, partner, mother, of union leader, colleague, friend, partner, mother, confidante of union leader, colleague, friend, partner, mother, confidante and partner, mother, confidante and agitator partner, mother, confidante and agitator effortlessly. partner, mother, confidante and agitator effortlessly. Helen partner, mother, confidante and agitator effortlessly. Helen stood agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's shadow. agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's shadow. And agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's shadow. And she agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's shadow. And she will agitator effortlessly. Helen stood in no-one's shadow. And she will be in no-one's shadow. And she will be missed. in no-one's shadow. And she will be missed. Mr in no-one's shadow. And she will be missed. Mr Speaker. <WAIATA> Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. The Mr Speaker. The Rt Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government joins Mr Speaker. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government joins with Speaker, the Government joins with the Speaker, the Government joins with the Leader Speaker, the Government joins with the Leader of Speaker, the Government joins with the Leader of the Speaker, the Government joins with the Leader of the Opposition Speaker, the Government joins with the Leader of the Opposition in the Leader of the Opposition in relation the Leader of the Opposition in relation to the Leader of the Opposition in relation to the the Leader of the Opposition in relation to the motion the Leader of the Opposition in relation to the motion he's the Leader of the Opposition in relation to the motion he's just relation to the motion he's just presented relation to the motion he's just presented about relation to the motion he's just presented about Helen relation to the motion he's just presented about Helen Kelly. relation to the motion he's just presented about Helen Kelly. Mr presented about Helen Kelly. Mr Speaker, presented about Helen Kelly. Mr Speaker, Helen presented about Helen Kelly. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly presented about Helen Kelly. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't presented about Helen Kelly. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my side Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my side of Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my side of the Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my side of the political Speaker, Helen Kelly didn't come from my side of the political fence. from my side of the political fence. There from my side of the political fence. There were, from my side of the political fence. There were, on from my side of the political fence. There were, on many from my side of the political fence. There were, on many occasions from my side of the political fence. There were, on many occasions that from my side of the political fence. There were, on many occasions that I There were, on many occasions that I simply There were, on many occasions that I simply didn't There were, on many occasions that I simply didn't agree There were, on many occasions that I simply didn't agree with There were, on many occasions that I simply didn't agree with her, There were, on many occasions that I simply didn't agree with her, not simply didn't agree with her, not the simply didn't agree with her, not the least simply didn't agree with her, not the least of simply didn't agree with her, not the least of being, simply didn't agree with her, not the least of being, actually, simply didn't agree with her, not the least of being, actually, her the least of being, actually, her disagreement the least of being, actually, her disagreement with the least of being, actually, her disagreement with the the least of being, actually, her disagreement with the Government's disagreement with the Government's view disagreement with the Government's view that disagreement with the Government's view that the disagreement with the Government's view that the law disagreement with the Government's view that the law should disagreement with the Government's view that the law should be disagreement with the Government's view that the law should be changed view that the law should be changed in view that the law should be changed in relation view that the law should be changed in relation to view that the law should be changed in relation to the view that the law should be changed in relation to the definition view that the law should be changed in relation to the definition of view that the law should be changed in relation to the definition of a in relation to the definition of a contractor, in relation to the definition of a contractor, so in relation to the definition of a contractor, so movies in relation to the definition of a contractor, so movies like in relation to the definition of a contractor, so movies like The contractor, so movies like The Hobbit contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could be contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could be made contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could be made in contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could be made in New contractor, so movies like The Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Mr Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Mr Speaker, Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Mr Speaker, sometimes Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Mr Speaker, sometimes the Hobbit could be made in New Zealand. Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way that Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way that Helen Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way that Helen Kelly Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way that Helen Kelly made Mr Speaker, sometimes the forceful way that Helen Kelly made her way that Helen Kelly made her arguments way that Helen Kelly made her arguments frustrated way that Helen Kelly made her arguments frustrated me. way that Helen Kelly made her arguments frustrated me. But way that Helen Kelly made her arguments frustrated me. But she arguments frustrated me. But she also arguments frustrated me. But she also had arguments frustrated me. But she also had my arguments frustrated me. But she also had my enormous arguments frustrated me. But she also had my enormous respect. arguments frustrated me. But she also had my enormous respect. She also had my enormous respect. She was also had my enormous respect. She was passionate, also had my enormous respect. She was passionate, she also had my enormous respect. She was passionate, she was also had my enormous respect. She was passionate, she was tenacious, was passionate, she was tenacious, she was passionate, she was tenacious, she was was passionate, she was tenacious, she was articulate, was passionate, she was tenacious, she was articulate, she was passionate, she was tenacious, she was articulate, she was she was articulate, she was intelligent, she was articulate, she was intelligent, and she was articulate, she was intelligent, and she she was articulate, she was intelligent, and she was she was articulate, she was intelligent, and she was pragmatic. intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all of intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all of that, intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all of that, she intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all of that, she had intelligent, and she was pragmatic. Underneath all of that, she had a Underneath all of that, she had a great Underneath all of that, she had a great sense Underneath all of that, she had a great sense of Underneath all of that, she had a great sense of humour, Underneath all of that, she had a great sense of humour, and Underneath all of that, she had a great sense of humour, and was great sense of humour, and was always great sense of humour, and was always prepared great sense of humour, and was always prepared at great sense of humour, and was always prepared at least great sense of humour, and was always prepared at least to great sense of humour, and was always prepared at least to sit great sense of humour, and was always prepared at least to sit down always prepared at least to sit down and always prepared at least to sit down and have always prepared at least to sit down and have a always prepared at least to sit down and have a discussion always prepared at least to sit down and have a discussion to always prepared at least to sit down and have a discussion to see always prepared at least to sit down and have a discussion to see if always prepared at least to sit down and have a discussion to see if the and have a discussion to see if the rights and have a discussion to see if the rights and and have a discussion to see if the rights and interests and have a discussion to see if the rights and interests of and have a discussion to see if the rights and interests of New rights and interests of New Zealanders rights and interests of New Zealanders could rights and interests of New Zealanders could be rights and interests of New Zealanders could be advanced, rights and interests of New Zealanders could be advanced, as rights and interests of New Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has just Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has just pointed Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has just pointed out, Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has just pointed out, not Zealanders could be advanced, as Mr Little has just pointed out, not the Little has just pointed out, not the least Little has just pointed out, not the least of Little has just pointed out, not the least of them Little has just pointed out, not the least of them being Little has just pointed out, not the least of them being in Little has just pointed out, not the least of them being in relation Little has just pointed out, not the least of them being in relation to least of them being in relation to the least of them being in relation to the jobs least of them being in relation to the jobs summit, least of them being in relation to the jobs summit, where least of them being in relation to the jobs summit, where I least of them being in relation to the jobs summit, where I think least of them being in relation to the jobs summit, where I think the the jobs summit, where I think the country the jobs summit, where I think the country had the jobs summit, where I think the country had genuine the jobs summit, where I think the country had genuine concerns the jobs summit, where I think the country had genuine concerns about country had genuine concerns about what country had genuine concerns about what might country had genuine concerns about what might happen country had genuine concerns about what might happen to country had genuine concerns about what might happen to workers country had genuine concerns about what might happen to workers in country had genuine concerns about what might happen to workers in this what might happen to workers in this country. what might happen to workers in this country. And what might happen to workers in this country. And she what might happen to workers in this country. And she fought what might happen to workers in this country. And she fought to what might happen to workers in this country. And she fought to see what might happen to workers in this country. And she fought to see that country. And she fought to see that there country. And she fought to see that there was country. And she fought to see that there was a country. And she fought to see that there was a way country. And she fought to see that there was a way to country. And she fought to see that there was a way to preserve country. And she fought to see that there was a way to preserve their there was a way to preserve their jobs there was a way to preserve their jobs and there was a way to preserve their jobs and their there was a way to preserve their jobs and their entitlements. there was a way to preserve their jobs and their entitlements. Mr jobs and their entitlements. Mr Speaker, jobs and their entitlements. Mr Speaker, Helen jobs and their entitlements. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly jobs and their entitlements. Mr Speaker, Helen Kelly cared Speaker, Helen Kelly cared passionately Speaker, Helen Kelly cared passionately about Speaker, Helen Kelly cared passionately about those Speaker, Helen Kelly cared passionately about those that Speaker, Helen Kelly cared passionately about those that she passionately about those that she fought passionately about those that she fought for, passionately about those that she fought for, and passionately about those that she fought for, and she passionately about those that she fought for, and she believed passionately about those that she fought for, and she believed in passionately about those that she fought for, and she believed in them fought for, and she believed in them to fought for, and she believed in them to the fought for, and she believed in them to the end. fought for, and she believed in them to the end. She fought for, and she believed in them to the end. She died fought for, and she believed in them to the end. She died far fought for, and she believed in them to the end. She died far too fought for, and she believed in them to the end. She died far too young, to the end. She died far too young, and to the end. She died far too young, and she to the end. She died far too young, and she had to the end. She died far too young, and she had a to the end. She died far too young, and she had a great to the end. She died far too young, and she had a great deal to the end. She died far too young, and she had a great deal more to the end. She died far too young, and she had a great deal more to and she had a great deal more to contribute. and she had a great deal more to contribute. I and she had a great deal more to contribute. I think and she had a great deal more to contribute. I think most and she had a great deal more to contribute. I think most people and she had a great deal more to contribute. I think most people know contribute. I think most people know that contribute. I think most people know that Helen contribute. I think most people know that Helen Kelly contribute. I think most people know that Helen Kelly was contribute. I think most people know that Helen Kelly was considering contribute. I think most people know that Helen Kelly was considering a that Helen Kelly was considering a career that Helen Kelly was considering a career in that Helen Kelly was considering a career in politics, that Helen Kelly was considering a career in politics, if that Helen Kelly was considering a career in politics, if she that Helen Kelly was considering a career in politics, if she hadn't career in politics, if she hadn't been career in politics, if she hadn't been struck career in politics, if she hadn't been struck down career in politics, if she hadn't been struck down by career in politics, if she hadn't been struck down by such career in politics, if she hadn't been struck down by such a career in politics, if she hadn't been struck down by such a terrible been struck down by such a terrible illness. been struck down by such a terrible illness. She been struck down by such a terrible illness. She would been struck down by such a terrible illness. She would have been struck down by such a terrible illness. She would have enjoyed, been struck down by such a terrible illness. She would have enjoyed, I illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, the illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, the opportunity illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, the opportunity to illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, the opportunity to debate illness. She would have enjoyed, I think, the opportunity to debate in think, the opportunity to debate in this think, the opportunity to debate in this House think, the opportunity to debate in this House those think, the opportunity to debate in this House those values think, the opportunity to debate in this House those values and this House those values and principles this House those values and principles that this House those values and principles that she this House those values and principles that she held this House those values and principles that she held so this House those values and principles that she held so dearly, principles that she held so dearly, and principles that she held so dearly, and we principles that she held so dearly, and we would principles that she held so dearly, and we would have principles that she held so dearly, and we would have enjoyed principles that she held so dearly, and we would have enjoyed debating and we would have enjoyed debating with and we would have enjoyed debating with her. and we would have enjoyed debating with her. But and we would have enjoyed debating with her. But the and we would have enjoyed debating with her. But the truth and we would have enjoyed debating with her. But the truth is, and we would have enjoyed debating with her. But the truth is, Mr with her. But the truth is, Mr Speaker, with her. But the truth is, Mr Speaker, that with her. But the truth is, Mr Speaker, that Helen with her. But the truth is, Mr Speaker, that Helen Kelly with her. But the truth is, Mr Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an office Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an office in Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an office in the Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an office in the beehive Speaker, that Helen Kelly didn't need an office in the beehive to need an office in the beehive to make need an office in the beehive to make a need an office in the beehive to make a difference need an office in the beehive to make a difference to need an office in the beehive to make a difference to New need an office in the beehive to make a difference to New Zealand. make a difference to New Zealand. She make a difference to New Zealand. She made make a difference to New Zealand. She made that make a difference to New Zealand. She made that all make a difference to New Zealand. She made that all too make a difference to New Zealand. She made that all too easily make a difference to New Zealand. She made that all too easily through She made that all too easily through the She made that all too easily through the capacity She made that all too easily through the capacity of She made that all too easily through the capacity of her She made that all too easily through the capacity of her arguments She made that all too easily through the capacity of her arguments and the capacity of her arguments and the the capacity of her arguments and the way the capacity of her arguments and the way that the capacity of her arguments and the way that she the capacity of her arguments and the way that she articulated the capacity of her arguments and the way that she articulated them. the way that she articulated them. To the way that she articulated them. To her the way that she articulated them. To her family the way that she articulated them. To her family and the way that she articulated them. To her family and friends, the way that she articulated them. To her family and friends, we the way that she articulated them. To her family and friends, we pass To her family and friends, we pass our To her family and friends, we pass our deepest To her family and friends, we pass our deepest condolences. To her family and friends, we pass our deepest condolences. May To her family and friends, we pass our deepest condolences. May she our deepest condolences. May she rest our deepest condolences. May she rest in our deepest condolences. May she rest in peace. rest in peace. <WAIATA> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. Thank Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to honour Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to honour Helen Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to honour Helen Kelly, Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to honour Helen Kelly, and Mr Speaker. Thank you, Mr Speaker. I rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens join rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens join with rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens join with others rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens join with others across rise to honour Helen Kelly, and the Greens join with others across this Greens join with others across this House Greens join with others across this House in Greens join with others across this House in mourning Greens join with others across this House in mourning her Greens join with others across this House in mourning her loss Greens join with others across this House in mourning her loss and House in mourning her loss and offering House in mourning her loss and offering our House in mourning her loss and offering our condolences House in mourning her loss and offering our condolences to House in mourning her loss and offering our condolences to her offering our condolences to her husband, offering our condolences to her husband, Steve, offering our condolences to her husband, Steve, and offering our condolences to her husband, Steve, and to offering our condolences to her husband, Steve, and to her offering our condolences to her husband, Steve, and to her son, husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to her husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to her wider husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to her wider family husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to her wider family and husband, Steve, and to her son, Dylan, to her wider family and her Dylan, to her wider family and her colleagues, Dylan, to her wider family and her colleagues, and Dylan, to her wider family and her colleagues, and her Dylan, to her wider family and her colleagues, and her many, Dylan, to her wider family and her colleagues, and her many, many colleagues, and her many, many friends. colleagues, and her many, many friends. I've colleagues, and her many, many friends. I've worked colleagues, and her many, many friends. I've worked with colleagues, and her many, many friends. I've worked with Helen colleagues, and her many, many friends. I've worked with Helen a friends. I've worked with Helen a lot friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over the friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over the last friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over the last five friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over the last five years friends. I've worked with Helen a lot over the last five years as lot over the last five years as spokesperson lot over the last five years as spokesperson for lot over the last five years as spokesperson for the lot over the last five years as spokesperson for the Industrial spokesperson for the Industrial Relations spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role for spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role for the spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role for the Greens. spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role for the Greens. But spokesperson for the Industrial Relations role for the Greens. But I Relations role for the Greens. But I first Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Helen Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Helen socially. Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Helen socially. I Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Helen socially. I think Relations role for the Greens. But I first met Helen socially. I think it first met Helen socially. I think it was first met Helen socially. I think it was when first met Helen socially. I think it was when she first met Helen socially. I think it was when she was first met Helen socially. I think it was when she was the first met Helen socially. I think it was when she was the general was when she was the general secretary was when she was the general secretary of was when she was the general secretary of the was when she was the general secretary of the Association was when she was the general secretary of the Association of secretary of the Association of University secretary of the Association of University Staff, secretary of the Association of University Staff, now secretary of the Association of University Staff, now the secretary of the Association of University Staff, now the TEO. secretary of the Association of University Staff, now the TEO. She University Staff, now the TEO. She was University Staff, now the TEO. She was in University Staff, now the TEO. She was in the University Staff, now the TEO. She was in the early University Staff, now the TEO. She was in the early days University Staff, now the TEO. She was in the early days of University Staff, now the TEO. She was in the early days of her was in the early days of her relationship was in the early days of her relationship with was in the early days of her relationship with her was in the early days of her relationship with her husband was in the early days of her relationship with her husband and relationship with her husband and she relationship with her husband and she used relationship with her husband and she used to relationship with her husband and she used to visit relationship with her husband and she used to visit our relationship with her husband and she used to visit our farm, relationship with her husband and she used to visit our farm, our she used to visit our farm, our vineyard, she used to visit our farm, our vineyard, quite she used to visit our farm, our vineyard, quite regularly. she used to visit our farm, our vineyard, quite regularly. Now, vineyard, quite regularly. Now, others vineyard, quite regularly. Now, others have vineyard, quite regularly. 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A living wage for all ordinary New The Hobbit law. A living wage for all ordinary New Zealanders. The Hobbit law. A living wage for all ordinary New Zealanders. A The Hobbit law. A living wage for all ordinary New Zealanders. A law all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that enables all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that enables New all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that enables New Zealanders all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that enables New Zealanders to all ordinary New Zealanders. A law that enables New Zealanders to join that enables New Zealanders to join a that enables New Zealanders to join a union that enables New Zealanders to join a union without that enables New Zealanders to join a union without fear that enables New Zealanders to join a union without fear of that enables New Zealanders to join a union without fear of retribution. a union without fear of retribution. And a union without fear of retribution. And the a union without fear of retribution. And the ability a union without fear of retribution. And the ability to a union without fear of retribution. And the ability to organise a union without fear of retribution. And the ability to organise for And the ability to organise for better And the ability to organise for better working And the ability to organise for better working conditions. And the ability to organise for better working conditions. And And the ability to organise for better working conditions. And for better working conditions. And for someone, better working conditions. And for someone, for better working conditions. And for someone, for someone better working conditions. And for someone, for someone to better working conditions. And for someone, for someone to be better working conditions. 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It's a damn shame that we won't see Helen in this House, won't see Helen in this House, because won't see Helen in this House, because goodness won't see Helen in this House, because goodness knows won't see Helen in this House, because goodness knows we won't see Helen in this House, because goodness knows we need won't see Helen in this House, because goodness knows we need women because goodness knows we need women of because goodness knows we need women of that because goodness knows we need women of that calibre because goodness knows we need women of that calibre here. because goodness knows we need women of that calibre here. Her because goodness knows we need women of that calibre here. Her role because goodness knows we need women of that calibre here. Her role as of that calibre here. Her role as president of that calibre here. Her role as president of of that calibre here. Her role as president of the of that calibre here. 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And and that comes at a cost to her family. And we and that comes at a cost to her family. And we thank and that comes at a cost to her family. And we thank them and that comes at a cost to her family. And we thank them for and that comes at a cost to her family. And we thank them for it. and that comes at a cost to her family. And we thank them for it. A family. And we thank them for it. A public family. And we thank them for it. A public figure family. And we thank them for it. A public figure responsive family. And we thank them for it. A public figure responsive to family. And we thank them for it. A public figure responsive to the public figure responsive to the needs public figure responsive to the needs of public figure responsive to the needs of ordinary public figure responsive to the needs of ordinary New public figure responsive to the needs of ordinary New Zealanders needs of ordinary New Zealanders would needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have served needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have served her needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have served her well needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have served her well here. needs of ordinary New Zealanders would have served her well here. She would have served her well here. She would would have served her well here. She would have would have served her well here. She would have shone. would have served her well here. She would have shone. She would have served her well here. She would have shone. She will would have served her well here. She would have shone. She will be would have shone. She will be missed. missed. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <WAIATA> As As we As we go As we go marching, As we go marching, marching, As we go marching, marching, we As we go marching, marching, we bring As we go marching, marching, we bring the As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days. As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days. The As we go marching, marching, we bring the greater days. The rising bring the greater days. The rising of bring the greater days. The rising of the bring the greater days. The rising of the women bring the greater days. The rising of the women means bring the greater days. The rising of the women means the bring the greater days. The rising of the women means the rising But But a But a sharing But a sharing of But a sharing of life's But a sharing of life's glories, But a sharing of life's glories, roses. Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. The Mr Speaker. 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And that sort of personality indeed, unionism. And that sort of personality leading indeed, unionism. And that sort of personality leading it. indeed, unionism. And that sort of personality leading it. We indeed, unionism. And that sort of personality leading it. We were indeed, unionism. And that sort of personality leading it. We were a personality leading it. We were a better personality leading it. We were a better country personality leading it. We were a better country for personality leading it. We were a better country for witnessing personality leading it. 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Our sincere condolences to her husband, sincere condolences to her husband, the sincere condolences to her husband, the wider sincere condolences to her husband, the wider family sincere condolences to her husband, the wider family and sincere condolences to her husband, the wider family and friends. sincere condolences to her husband, the wider family and friends. Mr the wider family and friends. Mr Speaker, the wider family and friends. Mr Speaker, on the wider family and friends. Mr Speaker, on these the wider family and friends. Mr Speaker, on these occasions the wider family and friends. Mr Speaker, on these occasions it's the wider family and friends. 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Marama Fox. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> <WAIATA> I I rise I rise on I rise on behalf I rise on behalf of I rise on behalf of ACC I rise on behalf of ACC Party I rise on behalf of ACC Party on I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf of I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf of the I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf of the other I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf of the other leaders I rise on behalf of ACC Party on behalf of the other leaders in behalf of the other leaders in attributing behalf of the other leaders in attributing somebody behalf of the other leaders in attributing somebody in behalf of the other leaders in attributing somebody in Helen behalf of the other leaders in attributing somebody in Helen Kelly attributing somebody in Helen Kelly who attributing somebody in Helen Kelly who was attributing somebody in Helen Kelly who was fierce attributing somebody in Helen Kelly who was fierce yet attributing somebody in Helen Kelly who was fierce yet dignified, who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant yet who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant yet humble, who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant yet humble, and who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant yet humble, and spent who was fierce yet dignified, brilliant yet humble, and spent her brilliant yet humble, and spent her life brilliant yet humble, and spent her life with brilliant yet humble, and spent her life with a brilliant yet humble, and spent her life with a deep brilliant yet humble, and spent her life with a deep and brilliant yet humble, and spent her life with a deep and compassionate life with a deep and compassionate devotion life with a deep and compassionate devotion to life with a deep and compassionate devotion to the life with a deep and compassionate devotion to the service life with a deep and compassionate devotion to the service of life with a deep and compassionate devotion to the service of others. devotion to the service of others. Our devotion to the service of others. Our regards devotion to the service of others. Our regards and devotion to the service of others. Our regards and thoughts devotion to the service of others. Our regards and thoughts with devotion to the service of others. Our regards and thoughts with her Our regards and thoughts with her family. Our regards and thoughts with her family. May Our regards and thoughts with her family. May she Our regards and thoughts with her family. May she rest Our regards and thoughts with her family. May she rest in Our regards and thoughts with her family. May she rest in peace. Our regards and thoughts with her family. May she rest in peace. The family. May she rest in peace. The question family. May she rest in peace. The question is family. May she rest in peace. The question is that family. May she rest in peace. The question is that the family. May she rest in peace. The question is that the motion family. May she rest in peace. The question is that the motion be question is that the motion be agreed question is that the motion be agreed to. question is that the motion be agreed to. Those question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that question is that the motion be agreed to. Those of that opinion agreed to. Those of that opinion will agreed to. Those of that opinion will say agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye. agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye. To agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye. To the agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye. To the contrary, agreed to. Those of that opinion will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The Ayes will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The Ayes have will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The Ayes have it. will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The Ayes have it. The will say Aye. To the contrary, No.. The Ayes have it. 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Petition Petition of Petition of Beverley Petition of Beverley Aldridge Petition of Beverley Aldridge requesting Petition of Beverley Aldridge requesting that Petition of Beverley Aldridge requesting that the Petition of Beverley Aldridge requesting that the Parliament requesting that the Parliament re-legalise requesting that the Parliament re-legalise the requesting that the Parliament re-legalise the cannabis requesting that the Parliament re-legalise the cannabis plant, re-legalise the cannabis plant, and re-legalise the cannabis plant, and note re-legalise the cannabis plant, and note that re-legalise the cannabis plant, and note that 878 re-legalise the cannabis plant, and note that 878 people and note that 878 people have and note that 878 people have signed and note that 878 people have signed an and note that 878 people have signed an online and note that 878 people have signed an online petition have signed an online petition in have signed an online petition in support. 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The ongoing growth of the economy is giving businesses the economy is giving businesses the confidence economy is giving businesses the confidence to economy is giving businesses the confidence to invest economy is giving businesses the confidence to invest ANZ's economy is giving businesses the confidence to invest ANZ's most confidence to invest ANZ's most recent confidence to invest ANZ's most recent survey confidence to invest ANZ's most recent survey of confidence to invest ANZ's most recent survey of job confidence to invest ANZ's most recent survey of job advertisements recent survey of job advertisements shows recent survey of job advertisements shows that recent survey of job advertisements shows that job recent survey of job advertisements shows that job advertisements shows that job advertisements increased shows that job advertisements increased by shows that job advertisements increased by 3% shows that job advertisements increased by 3% in shows that job advertisements increased by 3% in September, shows that job advertisements increased by 3% in September, the increased by 3% in September, the aightsd increased by 3% in September, the aightsd consecutive increased by 3% in September, the aightsd consecutive month increased by 3% in September, the aightsd consecutive month in increased by 3% in September, the aightsd consecutive month in this aightsd consecutive month in this job aightsd consecutive month in this job ad aightsd consecutive month in this job ad numbers aightsd consecutive month in this job ad numbers -- aightsd consecutive month in this job ad numbers -- eighth aightsd consecutive month in this job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in this job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in this job job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in this job ad job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in this job ad numbers job ad numbers -- eighth consecutive month in this job ad numbers have month in this job ad numbers have increaseds. month in this job ad numbers have increaseds. 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What does the ANZ survey tell us about regional economies? Well, What does the ANZ survey tell us about regional economies? Well, Mr about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, it about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, it shows about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, it shows that about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, it shows that job about regional economies? Well, Mr Speaker, it shows that job growth Speaker, it shows that job growth was Speaker, it shows that job growth was fairly Speaker, it shows that job growth was fairly robust Speaker, it shows that job growth was fairly robust in Speaker, it shows that job growth was fairly robust in Auckland Speaker, it shows that job growth was fairly robust in Auckland and was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, where was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, where ads was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, where ads up was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, where ads up are was fairly robust in Auckland and Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and 13.8% Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and 13.8% on Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and 13.8% on a Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and 13.8% on a year Wellington, where ads up are 14.8 and 13.8% on a year ago. 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But there's a strong lift in employment a strong lift in employment intentions a strong lift in employment intentions in a strong lift in employment intentions in the a strong lift in employment intentions in the regions, a strong lift in employment intentions in the regions, including intentions in the regions, including Waikato, intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up 27% intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up 27% on intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up 27% on a intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up 27% on a year intentions in the regions, including Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Bay Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Bay 17.6 Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Bay 17.6 where Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Waikato, up 27% on a year ago, Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up 19% Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up 19% on Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up 19% on a Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up 19% on a year Hawke's Bay 17.6 where is, Manawatu, 17%, and Otago up 19% on a year ago. 17%, and Otago up 19% on a year ago. 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Does he recall saying on 11 May 2011 lot more job opportunities. 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But inflation has only been 12%. that is, 31%, on average. But inflation has only been 12%. So, inflation has only been 12%. So, real inflation has only been 12%. So, real wages inflation has only been 12%. So, real wages have inflation has only been 12%. So, real wages have increased inflation has only been 12%. So, real wages have increased much inflation has only been 12%. So, real wages have increased much more real wages have increased much more quickly real wages have increased much more quickly in real wages have increased much more quickly in the real wages have increased much more quickly in the last real wages have increased much more quickly in the last seven real wages have increased much more quickly in the last seven or real wages have increased much more quickly in the last seven or eight quickly in the last seven or eight years quickly in the last seven or eight years than quickly in the last seven or eight years than a quickly in the last seven or eight years than a decade quickly in the last seven or eight years than a decade before quickly in the last seven or eight years than a decade before that. years than a decade before that. Order! years than a decade before that. Order! Supplementary years than a decade before that. Order! Supplementary question. years than a decade before that. Order! Supplementary question. In Order! 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In light of his earlier answer, could light of his earlier answer, could the light of his earlier answer, could the Minister light of his earlier answer, could the Minister elaborate light of his earlier answer, could the Minister elaborate on light of his earlier answer, could the Minister elaborate on how light of his earlier answer, could the Minister elaborate on how the the Minister elaborate on how the 51st the Minister elaborate on how the 51st Parliament the Minister elaborate on how the 51st Parliament has the Minister elaborate on how the 51st Parliament has reduced the Minister elaborate on how the 51st Parliament has reduced the the Minister elaborate on how the 51st Parliament has reduced the tax 51st Parliament has reduced the tax wedge 51st Parliament has reduced the tax wedge faced 51st Parliament has reduced the tax wedge faced by 51st Parliament has reduced the tax wedge faced by workers? 51st Parliament has reduced the tax wedge faced by workers? 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It has dropped source deduction tax as a proportion of GDP. It has dropped by source deduction tax as a proportion of GDP. It has dropped by three source deduction tax as a proportion of GDP. It has dropped by three or of GDP. It has dropped by three or four of GDP. It has dropped by three or four percentage of GDP. It has dropped by three or four percentage points. of GDP. It has dropped by three or four percentage points. That four percentage points. That achieves four percentage points. That achieves what four percentage points. That achieves what we four percentage points. That achieves what we set four percentage points. That achieves what we set out four percentage points. That achieves what we set out to four percentage points. 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Does investment, and more tax on consumption and property. Does the consumption and property. Does the Minister consumption and property. Does the Minister have consumption and property. Does the Minister have any consumption and property. Does the Minister have any plans consumption and property. Does the Minister have any plans to consumption and property. Does the Minister have any plans to reduce Minister have any plans to reduce taxes Minister have any plans to reduce taxes in Minister have any plans to reduce taxes in the Minister have any plans to reduce taxes in the 51st Minister have any plans to reduce taxes in the 51st Parliament? Minister have any plans to reduce taxes in the 51st Parliament? Well, taxes in the 51st Parliament? Well, I taxes in the 51st Parliament? Well, I wouldn't taxes in the 51st Parliament? Well, I wouldn't want taxes in the 51st Parliament? Well, I wouldn't want to taxes in the 51st Parliament? 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Well, I wouldn't want to get into a debate I wouldn't want to get into a debate with I wouldn't want to get into a debate with the I wouldn't want to get into a debate with the member I wouldn't want to get into a debate with the member about I wouldn't want to get into a debate with the member about which with the member about which Parliament with the member about which Parliament we're with the member about which Parliament we're in with the member about which Parliament we're in or with the member about which Parliament we're in or what with the member about which Parliament we're in or what might with the member about which Parliament we're in or what might be Parliament we're in or what might be the Parliament we're in or what might be the next Parliament we're in or what might be the next one, Parliament we're in or what might be the next one, but Parliament we're in or what might be the next one, but as Parliament we're in or what might be the next one, but as indicated, Parliament we're in or what might be the next one, but as indicated, the the next one, but as indicated, the Government the next one, but as indicated, the Government is the next one, but as indicated, the Government is interested the next one, but as indicated, the Government is interested in the next one, but as indicated, the Government is interested in further Government is interested in further lowering Government is interested in further lowering taxes, Government is interested in further lowering taxes, should Government is interested in further lowering taxes, should economic Government is interested in further lowering taxes, should economic and lowering taxes, should economic and fiscal lowering taxes, should economic and fiscal conditions lowering taxes, should economic and fiscal conditions allow. lowering taxes, should economic and fiscal conditions allow. 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But that's in the context where, as we've seen in the context where, as we've seen in in the context where, as we've seen in the in the context where, as we've seen in the last in the context where, as we've seen in the last week in the context where, as we've seen in the last week or in the context where, as we've seen in the last week or so, in the context where, as we've seen in the last week or so, there in the context where, as we've seen in the last week or so, there is in the context where, as we've seen in the last week or so, there is a in the last week or so, there is a cacophony in the last week or so, there is a cacophony of in the last week or so, there is a cacophony of demands in the last week or so, there is a cacophony of demands for in the last week or so, there is a cacophony of demands for how in the last week or so, there is a cacophony of demands for how the cacophony of demands for how the Government cacophony of demands for how the Government could cacophony of demands for how the Government could spend cacophony of demands for how the Government could spend its Government could spend its surpluses. Government could spend its surpluses. The Government could spend its surpluses. The great Government could spend its surpluses. The great thing Government could spend its surpluses. The great thing is Government could spend its surpluses. The great thing is we're surpluses. The great thing is we're one surpluses. The great thing is we're one of surpluses. The great thing is we're one of the surpluses. The great thing is we're one of the very surpluses. The great thing is we're one of the very few surpluses. The great thing is we're one of the very few developed one of the very few developed countries one of the very few developed countries who one of the very few developed countries who have one of the very few developed countries who have those one of the very few developed countries who have those choices, countries who have those choices, because countries who have those choices, because we're countries who have those choices, because we're one countries who have those choices, because we're one of countries who have those choices, because we're one of the countries who have those choices, because we're one of the very countries who have those choices, because we're one of the very few because we're one of the very few who because we're one of the very few who have because we're one of the very few who have rising because we're one of the very few who have rising surpluses. who have rising surpluses. Order! who have rising surpluses. Order! Could who have rising surpluses. Order! Could the who have rising surpluses. Order! Could the Minister who have rising surpluses. Order! Could the Minister of who have rising surpluses. Order! Could the Minister of Finance Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to the Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to the whole Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to the whole country Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to the whole country why Order! Could the Minister of Finance explain to the whole country why it explain to the whole country why it is explain to the whole country why it is that explain to the whole country why it is that the explain to the whole country why it is that the National explain to the whole country why it is that the National Party explain to the whole country why it is that the National Party gives explain to the whole country why it is that the National Party gives ACC is that the National Party gives ACC Party is that the National Party gives ACC Party a is that the National Party gives ACC Party a right is that the National Party gives ACC Party a right to is that the National Party gives ACC Party a right to answer is that the National Party gives ACC Party a right to answer questions is that the National Party gives ACC Party a right to answer questions so Party a right to answer questions so they Party a right to answer questions so they can Party a right to answer questions so they can look Party a right to answer questions so they can look like Party a right to answer questions so they can look like a Party a right to answer questions so they can look like a real Party a right to answer questions so they can look like a real party? they can look like a real party? Order! they can look like a real party? Order! There's they can look like a real party? Order! There's no they can look like a real party? Order! There's no ministerial Order! There's no ministerial responsibility Order! There's no ministerial responsibility in Order! There's no ministerial responsibility in that Order! There's no ministerial responsibility in that question. Order! There's no ministerial responsibility in that question. Xwe responsibility in that question. Xwe No. responsibility in that question. Xwe No. 2. 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The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said in The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said in answer The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said in answer to The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said in answer to an The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes. And as I said in answer to an almost as I said in answer to an almost identical as I said in answer to an almost identical question as I said in answer to an almost identical question from as I said in answer to an almost identical question from Mr as I said in answer to an almost identical question from Mr Little identical question from Mr Little last identical question from Mr Little last month, identical question from Mr Little last month, according identical question from Mr Little last month, according to identical question from Mr Little last month, according to the identical question from Mr Little last month, according to the latest last month, according to the latest building last month, according to the latest building activity last month, according to the latest building activity survey last month, according to the latest building activity survey from building activity survey from Statistics building activity survey from Statistics NZ, building activity survey from Statistics NZ, the building activity survey from Statistics NZ, the amount building activity survey from Statistics NZ, the amount of Statistics NZ, the amount of residential Statistics NZ, the amount of residential building Statistics NZ, the amount of residential building work Statistics NZ, the amount of residential building work in Statistics NZ, the amount of residential building work in the residential building work in the three residential building work in the three months residential building work in the three months to residential building work in the three months to July residential building work in the three months to July was residential building work in the three months to July was the residential building work in the three months to July was the highest three months to July was the highest since three months to July was the highest since the three months to July was the highest since the series three months to July was the highest since the series began three months to July was the highest since the series began back three months to July was the highest since the series began back in three months to July was the highest since the series began back in the since the series began back in the 1980s. since the series began back in the 1980s. That's since the series began back in the 1980s. That's up since the series began back in the 1980s. That's up 6% since the series began back in the 1980s. That's up 6% on since the series began back in the 1980s. That's up 6% on the since the series began back in the 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record levels 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record levels set 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record levels set in 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record levels set in March 1980s. That's up 6% on the previous record levels set in March this record levels set in March this year. record levels set in March this year. That's record levels set in March this year. That's an record levels set in March this year. That's an increase record levels set in March this year. That's an increase of record levels set in March this year. That's an increase of 50% year. That's an increase of 50% since year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, over year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, over 90% year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, over 90% since year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, over 90% since the year. That's an increase of 50% since 2013, over 90% since the start since 2013, over 90% since the start of since 2013, over 90% since the start of 2012. since 2013, over 90% since the start of 2012. As since 2013, over 90% since the start of 2012. As I since 2013, over 90% since the start of 2012. As I said since 2013, over 90% since the start of 2012. As I said previously, of 2012. As I said previously, building of 2012. As I said previously, building consents of 2012. As I said previously, building consents have of 2012. As I said previously, building consents have been of 2012. As I said previously, building consents have been running building consents have been running at building consents have been running at the building consents have been running at the highest building consents have been running at the highest level building consents have been running at the highest level for building consents have been running at the highest level for over building consents have been running at the highest level for over 11 at the highest level for over 11 years at the highest level for over 11 years and at the highest level for over 11 years and we're at the highest level for over 11 years and we're looking at the highest level for over 11 years and we're looking to at the highest level for over 11 years and we're looking to increase years and we're looking to increase them years and we're looking to increase them further. them further. Can them further. Can he them further. Can he confirm them further. Can he confirm that them further. Can he confirm that MBIE's them further. Can he confirm that MBIE's June Can he confirm that MBIE's June State Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of the Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of the Markets Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of the Markets Report Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of the Markets Report says Can he confirm that MBIE's June State of the Markets Report says on State of the Markets Report says on page State of the Markets Report says on page five, State of the Markets Report says on page five, "There State of the Markets Report says on page five, "There is State of the Markets Report says on page five, "There is a State of the Markets Report says on page five, "There is a building page five, "There is a building short page five, "There is a building short fall page five, "There is a building short fall of page five, "There is a building short fall of 8,000 page five, "There is a building short fall of 8,000 house page five, "There is a building short fall of 8,000 house as page five, "There is a building short fall of 8,000 house as year page five, "There is a building short fall of 8,000 house as year in short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- in short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- in Auckland"? short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I short fall of 8,000 house as year in auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. Mr auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. Mr Speaker, auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. Mr Speaker, what auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I auct"? -- in Auckland"? No, I can't confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if we confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if we look confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if we look at confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if we look at the confirm that. Mr Speaker, what I can confirm is if we look at the Special confirm is if we look at the Special Housing confirm is if we look at the Special Housing Areas confirm is if we look at the Special Housing Areas established confirm is if we look at the Special Housing Areas established by confirm is if we look at the Special Housing Areas established by the Housing Areas established by the Government Housing Areas established by the Government since Housing Areas established by the Government since October Housing Areas established by the Government since October 2013, Housing Areas established by the Government since October 2013, over Government since October 2013, over 1,300 Government since October 2013, over 1,300 homes Government since October 2013, over 1,300 homes have Government since October 2013, over 1,300 homes have been Government since October 2013, over 1,300 homes have been completed, 1,300 homes have been completed, 2,200 1,300 homes have been completed, 2,200 building 1,300 homes have been completed, 2,200 building consents 1,300 homes have been completed, 2,200 building consents have 1,300 homes have been completed, 2,200 building consents have been 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,458 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,458 new 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,458 new sections 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,458 new sections have 2,200 building consents have been issued, 2,458 new sections have been issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and 7 issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and 7 now issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and 7 now 170 issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and 7 now 170 new issued, 2,458 new sections have been created, and 7 now 170 new sections created, and 7 now 170 new sections have created, and 7 now 170 new sections have been created, and 7 now 170 new sections have been granted created, and 7 now 170 new sections have been granted resource have been granted resource consent... have been granted resource consent... Order! have been granted resource consent... Order! The have been granted resource consent... Order! The Government have been granted resource consent... Order! The Government is consent... Order! The Government is making consent... Order! The Government is making good consent... Order! The Government is making good progress. consent... Order! The Government is making good progress. Can consent... Order! The Government is making good progress. Can he consent... Order! The Government is making good progress. Can he confirm making good progress. Can he confirm that making good progress. Can he confirm that the making good progress. Can he confirm that the report making good progress. Can he confirm that the report also making good progress. Can he confirm that the report also says making good progress. Can he confirm that the report also says onto making good progress. Can he confirm that the report also says onto page that the report also says onto page five that the report also says onto page five that that the report also says onto page five that there that the report also says onto page five that there was that the report also says onto page five that there was no that the report also says onto page five that there was no shortfall that the report also says onto page five that there was no shortfall in five that there was no shortfall in houses five that there was no shortfall in houses in five that there was no shortfall in houses in Auckland five that there was no shortfall in houses in Auckland when five that there was no shortfall in houses in Auckland when he five that there was no shortfall in houses in Auckland when he came five that there was no shortfall in houses in Auckland when he came to houses in Auckland when he came to office, houses in Auckland when he came to office, but houses in Auckland when he came to office, but now houses in Auckland when he came to office, but now there houses in Auckland when he came to office, but now there is houses in Auckland when he came to office, but now there is a office, but now there is a cumulative office, but now there is a cumulative shortfall office, but now there is a cumulative shortfall of office, but now there is a cumulative shortfall of 34,000 cumulative shortfall of 34,000 houses? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, no, Mr Speaker, no, I Mr Speaker, no, I can't Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, but Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, but Mr Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, but Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, but Mr Speaker, it's Mr Speaker, no, I can't confirm that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising in that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising in the that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising in the demand that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising in the demand for that, but Mr Speaker, it's hardly surprising in the demand for housing surprising in the demand for housing has surprising in the demand for housing has gone surprising in the demand for housing has gone up, surprising in the demand for housing has gone up, because surprising in the demand for housing has gone up, because when surprising in the demand for housing has gone up, because when I surprising in the demand for housing has gone up, because when I became has gone up, because when I became PM has gone up, because when I became PM of has gone up, because when I became PM of this has gone up, because when I became PM of this country, has gone up, because when I became PM of this country, 35,000 has gone up, because when I became PM of this country, 35,000 New PM of this country, 35,000 New Zealanders PM of this country, 35,000 New Zealanders a PM of this country, 35,000 New Zealanders a year PM of this country, 35,000 New Zealanders a year deserted PM of this country, 35,000 New Zealanders a year deserted for Zealanders a year deserted for Australia Zealanders a year deserted for Australia because Zealanders a year deserted for Australia because they Zealanders a year deserted for Australia because they were Zealanders a year deserted for Australia because they were sick Zealanders a year deserted for Australia because they were sick of Australia because they were sick of Helen Australia because they were sick of Helen Clarke's Australia because they were sick of Helen Clarke's Government Australia because they were sick of Helen Clarke's Government and Australia because they were sick of Helen Clarke's Government and now Helen Clarke's Government and now they're Helen Clarke's Government and now they're coming Helen Clarke's Government and now they're coming home Helen Clarke's Government and now they're coming home to Helen Clarke's Government and now they're coming home to New Helen Clarke's Government and now they're coming home to New Zealand. they're coming home to New Zealand. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary Order! <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary Order! The <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary Order! The campaign <INTERRUPTION> Supplementary Order! The campaign is Supplementary Order! The campaign is over. Supplementary Order! The campaign is over. Order! Supplementary Order! The campaign is over. Order! I Supplementary Order! The campaign is over. Order! I need Supplementary Order! The campaign is over. Order! I need substantially over. Order! I need substantially less over. Order! I need substantially less interjection over. Order! I need substantially less interjection that's over. Order! I need substantially less interjection that's occurring. less interjection that's occurring. Andrew less interjection that's occurring. Andrew Little, less interjection that's occurring. Andrew Little, supplementary Andrew Little, supplementary question. Andrew Little, supplementary question. Mr Andrew Little, supplementary question. Mr Speaker, Andrew Little, supplementary question. Mr Speaker, when Andrew Little, supplementary question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE Andrew Little, supplementary question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months ago question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months ago that question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months ago that not question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months ago that not enough question. Mr Speaker, when MBIE said months ago that not enough houses months ago that not enough houses are months ago that not enough houses are being months ago that not enough houses are being built months ago that not enough houses are being built in months ago that not enough houses are being built in Auckland months ago that not enough houses are being built in Auckland and months ago that not enough houses are being built in Auckland and the are being built in Auckland and the shortfall are being built in Auckland and the shortfall is are being built in Auckland and the shortfall is going are being built in Auckland and the shortfall is going to are being built in Auckland and the shortfall is going to continue are being built in Auckland and the shortfall is going to continue to shortfall is going to continue to grow shortfall is going to continue to grow for shortfall is going to continue to grow for years shortfall is going to continue to grow for years to shortfall is going to continue to grow for years to come, shortfall is going to continue to grow for years to come, why shortfall is going to continue to grow for years to come, why didn't grow for years to come, why didn't grow for years to come, why didn't grow for years to come, why didn't he tell grow for years to come, why didn't he tell the grow for years to come, why didn't he tell the public? grow for years to come, why didn't he tell the public? Mr grow for years to come, why didn't he tell the public? Mr Speaker, grow for years to come, why didn't he tell the public? Mr Speaker, the he tell the public? Mr Speaker, the Government he tell the public? Mr Speaker, the Government has he tell the public? Mr Speaker, the Government has through he tell the public? Mr Speaker, the Government has through its Government has through its comprehensive Government has through its comprehensive plan Government has through its comprehensive plan been comprehensive plan been demonstrating comprehensive plan been demonstrating to comprehensive plan been demonstrating to New comprehensive plan been demonstrating to New Zealanders comprehensive plan been demonstrating to New Zealanders that demonstrating to New Zealanders that we're demonstrating to New Zealanders that we're very demonstrating to New Zealanders that we're very serious demonstrating to New Zealanders that we're very serious about demonstrating to New Zealanders that we're very serious about increasing we're very serious about increasing supply we're very serious about increasing supply and, we're very serious about increasing supply and, in we're very serious about increasing supply and, in fact, we're very serious about increasing supply and, in fact, the we're very serious about increasing supply and, in fact, the increase we're very serious about increasing supply and, in fact, the increase in supply and, in fact, the increase in supply supply and, in fact, the increase in supply we're supply and, in fact, the increase in supply we're seeing supply and, in fact, the increase in supply we're seeing as supply and, in fact, the increase in supply we're seeing as having supply and, in fact, the increase in supply we're seeing as having a supply we're seeing as having a dramatic supply we're seeing as having a dramatic effect. supply we're seeing as having a dramatic effect. Only supply we're seeing as having a dramatic effect. Only needs supply we're seeing as having a dramatic effect. Only needs to supply we're seeing as having a dramatic effect. Only needs to go dramatic effect. Only needs to go around dramatic effect. Only needs to go around Auckland dramatic effect. Only needs to go around Auckland for dramatic effect. Only needs to go around Auckland for around dramatic effect. Only needs to go around Auckland for around five around Auckland for around five minutes around Auckland for around five minutes and around Auckland for around five minutes and have around Auckland for around five minutes and have a around Auckland for around five minutes and have a look around Auckland for around five minutes and have a look at around Auckland for around five minutes and have a look at the minutes and have a look at the enormous minutes and have a look at the enormous amount minutes and have a look at the enormous amount of minutes and have a look at the enormous amount of construction enormous amount of construction that's enormous amount of construction that's underway, enormous amount of construction that's underway, Mr enormous amount of construction that's underway, Mr Speaker. enormous amount of construction that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why we that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why we know that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why we know there that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why we know there are that's underway, Mr Speaker. That's why we know there are literally why we know there are literally thousands why we know there are literally thousands and why we know there are literally thousands and thousands why we know there are literally thousands and thousands of why we know there are literally thousands and thousands of more thousands and thousands of more people thousands and thousands of more people working thousands and thousands of more people working in thousands and thousands of more people working in the thousands and thousands of more people working in the construction thousands and thousands of more people working in the construction - people working in the construction - tens people working in the construction - tens of people working in the construction - tens of thousands people working in the construction - tens of thousands actually, people working in the construction - tens of thousands actually, in tens of thousands actually, in Auckland tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than there tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than there was tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than there was a tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than there was a few tens of thousands actually, in Auckland than there was a few years Auckland than there was a few years ago. Auckland than there was a few years ago. If Auckland than there was a few years ago. If Auckland Auckland than there was a few years ago. If Auckland needs Auckland than there was a few years ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 Auckland than there was a few years ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses today, ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses today, and ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses today, and he's ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses today, and he's managed ago. If Auckland needs 34,000 more houses today, and he's managed just houses today, and he's managed just 18 houses today, and he's managed just 18 affordable houses today, and he's managed just 18 affordable houses houses today, and he's managed just 18 affordable houses in houses today, and he's managed just 18 affordable houses in the houses today, and he's managed just 18 affordable houses in the Special 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing Areas 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing Areas in 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing Areas in three 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing Areas in three years, 18 affordable houses in the Special Housing Areas in three years, how Housing Areas in three years, how long Housing Areas in three years, how long will Housing Areas in three years, how long will it Housing Areas in three years, how long will it take Housing Areas in three years, how long will it take to Housing Areas in three years, how long will it take to fix Housing Areas in three years, how long will it take to fix the Housing Areas in three years, how long will it take to fix the housing long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? Mr long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? Mr Speaker, long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? Mr Speaker, the long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member long will it take to fix the housing shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking nonsense shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking nonsense when shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking nonsense when he shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking nonsense when he wants shortfall? Mr Speaker, the member is talking nonsense when he wants to talking nonsense when he wants to try talking nonsense when he wants to try to talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod out talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod out his talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod out his little talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod out his little number talking nonsense when he wants to try to trod out his little number of try to trod out his little number of 18. try to trod out his little number of 18. Gives try to trod out his little number of 18. Gives very try to trod out his little number of 18. Gives very little try to trod out his little number of 18. Gives very little credibility 18. Gives very little credibility he's 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. As 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. As the 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. As the Minister 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. As the Minister of 18. Gives very little credibility he's got. As the Minister of Housing he's got. As the Minister of Housing has he's got. As the Minister of Housing has pointed he's got. As the Minister of Housing has pointed out, he's got. As the Minister of Housing has pointed out, over he's got. As the Minister of Housing has pointed out, over 500 he's got. As the Minister of Housing has pointed out, over 500 houses has pointed out, over 500 houses meet has pointed out, over 500 houses meet that has pointed out, over 500 houses meet that criteria has pointed out, over 500 houses meet that criteria he has pointed out, over 500 houses meet that criteria he defines. meet that criteria he defines. That's meet that criteria he defines. That's why meet that criteria he defines. That's why the meet that criteria he defines. That's why the member meet that criteria he defines. That's why the member has meet that criteria he defines. That's why the member has no That's why the member has no credibility, That's why the member has no credibility, he That's why the member has no credibility, he keeps That's why the member has no credibility, he keeps making That's why the member has no credibility, he keeps making thing credibility, he keeps making thing up credibility, he keeps making thing credibility, credibility, he keeps making thing up he can't credibility, he keeps making thing up he can't back credibility, he keeps making thing up he can't back up. credibility, he keeps making thing up he can't back up. Order! credibility, he keeps making thing up he can't back up. Order! That up he can't back up. Order! That sort up he can't back up. Order! That sort of up he can't back up. Order! That sort of final up he can't back up. Order! That sort of final comment up he can't back up. Order! That sort of final comment will up he can't back up. Order! That sort of final comment will only up he can't back up. Order! That sort of final comment will only lead sort of final comment will only lead to sort of final comment will only lead to disorder. sort of final comment will only lead to disorder. Supplementary to disorder. Supplementary question... to disorder. Supplementary question... Order! to disorder. Supplementary question... Order! Now to disorder. Supplementary question... Order! Now the question... Order! Now the interjections question... Order! Now the interjections are question... Order! Now the interjections are coming question... Order! Now the interjections are coming from question... Order! Now the interjections are coming from both interjections are coming from both frontbenches, interjections are coming from both interjections interjections are coming from both frontbenches, I will interjections are coming from both frontbenches, I will ask interjections are coming from both frontbenches, I will ask people interjections are coming from both frontbenches, I will ask people to frontbenches, I will ask people to desist frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. If frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. If I frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. If I need frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. If I need to frontbenches, I will ask people to desist once more. If I need to start desist once more. If I need to start mentioning desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them by desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them by name desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them by name I desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them by name I can desist once more. If I need to start mentioning them by name I can do mentioning them by name I can do that mentioning them by name I can do that as mentioning them by name I can do that as well. mentioning them by name I can do that as well. Thank mentioning them by name I can do that as well. Thank you, mentioning them by name I can do that as well. Thank you, Mr mentioning them by name I can do that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did he that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did he claim that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did he claim a that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did he claim a $1 that as well. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why did he claim a $1 billion Why did he claim a $1 billion infrastructure Why did he claim a $1 billion infrastructure fund Why did he claim a $1 billion infrastructure fund would Why did he claim a $1 billion infrastructure fund would be Why did he claim a $1 billion infrastructure fund would be the infrastructure fund would be the answer infrastructure fund would be the answer to infrastructure fund would be the answer to the infrastructure fund would be the answer to the housing infrastructure fund would be the answer to the housing crisis infrastructure fund would be the answer to the housing crisis when answer to the housing crisis when Treasury answer to the housing crisis when Treasury had answer to the housing crisis when Treasury had told answer to the housing crisis when Treasury had told him answer to the housing crisis when Treasury had told him it's answer to the housing crisis when Treasury had told him it's not Treasury had told him it's not likely Treasury had told him it's not likely to Treasury had told him it's not likely to result Treasury had told him it's not likely to result in Treasury had told him it's not likely to result in additional likely to result in additional housing likely to result in additional housing in likely to result in additional housing in the likely to result in additional housing in the short-term? likely to result in additional housing in the short-term? 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What I did claim is that the $1 billion could be used is that the $1 billion could be used by is that the $1 billion could be used by councils is that the $1 billion could be used by councils in is that the $1 billion could be used by councils in the is that the $1 billion could be used by councils in the five is that the $1 billion could be used by councils in the five areas is that the $1 billion could be used by councils in the five areas that by councils in the five areas that will by councils in the five areas that will make by councils in the five areas that will make a by councils in the five areas that will make a difference, by councils in the five areas that will make a difference, Mr by councils in the five areas that will make a difference, Mr Speaker. will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an as will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an as a will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an as a result will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an as a result with will make a difference, Mr Speaker. It was an as a result with on-going It was an as a result with on-going discussions It was an as a result with on-going discussions with It was an as a result with on-going discussions with councils It was an as a result with on-going discussions with councils over It was an as a result with on-going discussions with councils over a discussions with councils over a long discussions with councils over a long period discussions with councils over a long period of discussions with councils over a long period of time. discussions with councils over a long period of time. Mr discussions with councils over a long period of time. Mr Speaker, discussions with councils over a long period of time. Mr Speaker, the long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition can't long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition can't have long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition can't have it long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition can't have it both long period of time. Mr Speaker, the Opposition can't have it both ways. Opposition can't have it both ways. On Opposition can't have it both ways. On the Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun hand Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun hand they Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun hand they want Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun hand they want to Opposition can't have it both ways. On the quun hand they want to tell On the quun hand they want to tell us On the quun hand they want to tell us - On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're take On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're take to-ing On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're take to-ing slowly On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're take to-ing slowly to On the quun hand they want to tell us - we're take to-ing slowly to get us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they want, us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they want, and us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they want, and when us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they want, and when we us - we're take to-ing slowly to get what they want, and when we move what they want, and when we move rapidly, what they want, and when we move rapidly, they what they want, and when we move rapidly, they tell what they want, and when we move rapidly, they tell us what they want, and when we move rapidly, they tell us we what they want, and when we move rapidly, they tell us we go what they want, and when we move rapidly, they tell us we go too rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps we rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps we got rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps we got to rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks rapidly, they tell us we go too fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. Can fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. Can we fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. Can we just fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. Can we just get fast. Perhaps we got to Goldilocks - just about right. Can we just get a just about right. Can we just get a straight just about right. Can we just get a straight answer just about right. Can we just get a straight answer to just about right. Can we just get a straight answer to this: just about right. Can we just get a straight answer to this: When just about right. Can we just get a straight answer to this: When he's straight answer to this: When he's only straight answer to this: When he's only managed straight answer to this: When he's only managed 18 straight answer to this: When he's only managed 18 affordable straight answer to this: When he's only managed 18 affordable houses only managed 18 affordable houses three only managed 18 affordable houses three years only managed 18 affordable houses three years does only managed 18 affordable houses three years does he only managed 18 affordable houses three years does he really only managed 18 affordable houses three years does he really think three years does he really think he's three years does he really think he's doing three years does he really think he's doing enough three years does he really think he's doing enough to three years does he really think he's doing enough to fix three years does he really think he's doing enough to fix the three years does he really think he's doing enough to fix the housing he's doing enough to fix the housing crisis? he's doing enough to fix the housing crisis? Mr he's doing enough to fix the housing crisis? Mr Speaker, he's doing enough to fix the housing crisis? Mr Speaker, it he's doing enough to fix the housing crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter how crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter how many crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter how many times crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter how many times the crisis? Mr Speaker, it doesn't matter how many times the member matter how many times the member comes matter how many times the member comes to matter how many times the member comes to the matter how many times the member comes to the house matter how many times the member comes to the house with matter how many times the member comes to the house with the matter how many times the member comes to the house with the made-up comes to the house with the made-up number comes to the house with the made-up number he comes to the house with the made-up number he can't comes to the house with the made-up number he can't back-up. comes to the house with the made-up number he can't back-up. It comes to the house with the made-up number he can't back-up. It doesn't number he can't back-up. It doesn't make number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it right. number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it right. Just number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it right. Just like number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it right. Just like when number he can't back-up. It doesn't make it right. Just like when he make it right. Just like when he keeps make it right. Just like when he keeps telling make it right. Just like when he keeps telling everyone make it right. Just like when he keeps telling everyone he make it right. Just like when he keeps telling everyone he has make it right. Just like when he keeps telling everyone he has the keeps telling everyone he has the support keeps telling everyone he has the support of keeps telling everyone he has the support of his keeps telling everyone he has the support of his caucus, keeps telling everyone he has the support of his caucus, doesn't keeps telling everyone he has the support of his caucus, doesn't mean support of his caucus, doesn't mean that support of his caucus, doesn't mean that it's support of his caucus, doesn't mean that it's right support of his caucus, doesn't mean that it's right either. support of his caucus, doesn't mean that it's right either. Order! that it's right either. Order! Question... that it's right either. Order! Question... Order! that it's right either. Order! Question... Order! Question that it's right either. Order! Question... Order! Question No. that it's right either. Order! Question... Order! Question No. 3. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: Minister of Transport: What Minister of Transport: What recent Minister of Transport: What recent progress What recent progress has What recent progress has been What recent progress has been made has been made on has been made on construction has been made on construction of has been made on construction of the on construction of the Government's on construction of the Government's Western on construction of the Government's Western Ring on construction of the Government's Western Ring Route Government's Western Ring Route motorway Government's Western Ring Route motorway in Government's Western Ring Route motorway in Auckland? Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. Order! Mr Speaker. Order! Iain Mr Speaker. Order! Iain Lees-Galloway. Mr Speaker. Order! Iain Lees-Galloway. Can Mr Speaker. Order! Iain Lees-Galloway. Can I Mr Speaker. Order! Iain Lees-Galloway. Can I have Lees-Galloway. Can I have substantially Lees-Galloway. Can I have substantially less Lees-Galloway. Can I have substantially less interjection Lees-Galloway. Can I have substantially less interjection from substantially less interjection from you, substantially less interjection from you, sir. substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. Last substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. Last week substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. Last week the substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. Last week the PM substantially less interjection from you, sir. The. Last week the PM and you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I officially you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I officially opened you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I officially opened the you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I officially opened the new you, sir. The. Last week the PM and I officially opened the new saint I officially opened the new saint Lukes I officially opened the new saint Lukes interchange I officially opened the new saint Lukes interchange on I officially opened the new saint Lukes interchange on Highway I officially opened the new saint Lukes interchange on Highway 16. I officially opened the new saint Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Government Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Government has Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Government has invested Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Government has invested $85 Lukes interchange on Highway 16. The Government has invested $85 million Government has invested $85 million to Government has invested $85 million to widen Government has invested $85 million to widen the Government has invested $85 million to widen the highway Government has invested $85 million to widen the highway from Government has invested $85 million to widen the highway from three to widen the highway from three lanes to widen the highway from three lanes to to widen the highway from three lanes to four to widen the highway from three lanes to four in to widen the highway from three lanes to four in each to widen the highway from three lanes to four in each direction to widen the highway from three lanes to four in each direction with lanes to four in each direction with upgrades lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to on lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to on and lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to on and off-ramps lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to on and off-ramps in lanes to four in each direction with upgrades to on and off-ramps in the upgrades to on and off-ramps in the St upgrades to on and off-ramps in the St Luke's upgrades to on and off-ramps in the St Luke's road upgrades to on and off-ramps in the St Luke's road overbring. upgrades to on and off-ramps in the St Luke's road overbring. The St Luke's road overbring. The improved St Luke's road overbring. The improved section St Luke's road overbring. The improved section of St Luke's road overbring. The improved section of highway St Luke's road overbring. The improved section of highway and improved section of highway and interchange improved section of highway and interchange will improved section of highway and interchange will improve improved section of highway and interchange will improve congestion interchange will improve congestion on interchange will improve congestion improved interchange will improve congestion on Auckland's motorway interchange will improve congestion on Auckland's motorway and interchange will improve congestion on Auckland's motorway and one interchange will improve congestion on Auckland's motorway and one of on Auckland's motorway and one of seven on Auckland's motorway and one of seven projects on Auckland's motorway and one of seven projects that on Auckland's motorway and one of seven projects that make on Auckland's motorway and one of seven projects that make up on Auckland's motorway and one of seven projects that make up the seven projects that make up the Government's seven projects that make up the Government's $2.4 seven projects that make up the Government's $2.4 billion seven projects that make up the Government's $2.4 billion Western Government's $2.4 billion Western Ring Government's $2.4 billion Western Ring Route Government's $2.4 billion Western Ring Route project. Government's $2.4 billion Western Ring Route project. Order! Ring Route project. Order! Supplementary Ring Route project. Order! Supplementary question. Ring Route project. Order! Supplementary question. Thank Ring Route project. Order! Supplementary question. Thank you, Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Supplementary question. Thank you, improved Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker, what Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker, what progress Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker, what progress has Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker, what progress has the Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government made Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government made on Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government made on its Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government made on its commitment Mr Speaker, what progress has the Government made on its commitment to Government made on its commitment to deliver Government made on its commitment to deliver the Government made on its commitment to deliver the east-west Government made on its commitment to deliver the east-west link Government made on its commitment to deliver the east-west link roading deliver the east-west link roading project? deliver the east-west link roading project? Mr deliver the east-west link roading project? Mr Speaker, deliver the east-west link roading project? Mr Speaker, very deliver the east-west link roading project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, in project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, in fact. project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, in fact. Recently project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, in fact. Recently the project? Mr Speaker, very pleasing progress, in fact. Recently the PM progress, in fact. Recently the PM and progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked the progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked the start progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked the start of progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked the start of work progress, in fact. Recently the PM and I marked the start of work on and I marked the start of work on the and I marked the start of work on the east-west and I marked the start of work on the east-west link and I marked the start of work on the east-west link roading and I marked the start of work on the east-west link roading project the east-west link roading project which the east-west link roading project which is the east-west link roading project which is one the east-west link roading project which is one of the east-west link roading project which is one of the the east-west link roading project which is one of the government's the east-west link roading project which is one of the government's top which is one of the government's top transport which is one of the government's top transport priorities which is one of the government's top transport priorities in which is one of the government's top transport priorities in Auckland which is one of the government's top transport priorities in Auckland in transport priorities in Auckland in a transport priorities in Auckland in a project transport priorities in Auckland in a project of transport priorities in Auckland in a project of national transport priorities in Auckland in a project of national significance. a project of national significance. The a project of national significance. The first a project of national significance. The first stage a project of national significance. The first stage of a project of national significance. The first stage of the a project of national significance. The first stage of the project a project of national significance. The first stage of the project only The first stage of the project only is The first stage of the project only is underway The first stage of the project only is underway and The first stage of the project only is underway and involves The first stage of the project only is underway and involves widening is underway and involves widening the is underway and involves widening the south-western is underway and involves widening the south-western motorway is underway and involves widening the south-western motorway to is underway and involves widening the south-western motorway to four the south-western motorway to four lanes the south-western motorway to four lanes in the south-western motorway to four lanes in each the south-western motorway to four lanes in each direction the south-western motorway to four lanes in each direction between lanes in each direction between Nelson lanes in each direction between Nelson Street lanes in each direction between Nelson Street and lanes in each direction between Nelson Street and Queenstown lanes in each direction between Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated bus Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated bus lanes Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated bus lanes will Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated bus lanes will also Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. Dedicated bus lanes will also be Nelson Street and Queenstown Road. 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Question No. general debate tomorrow. Question Order! 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Does services that New Zealanders have the benefit of accessing. Does he the benefit of accessing. Does he think the benefit of accessing. Does he think the the benefit of accessing. Does he think the PM the benefit of accessing. Does he think the PM made the benefit of accessing. Does he think the PM made an the benefit of accessing. Does he think the PM made an unfair think the PM made an unfair comparison think the PM made an unfair comparison between think the PM made an unfair comparison between the think the PM made an unfair comparison between the long think the PM made an unfair comparison between the long hours comparison between the long hours junior comparison between the long hours junior doctors comparison between the long hours junior doctors work comparison between the long hours junior doctors work dealing comparison between the long hours junior doctors work dealing with junior doctors work dealing with life junior doctors work dealing with life and junior doctors work dealing with life and death junior doctors work dealing with life and death decisions junior doctors work dealing with life and death decisions and junior doctors work dealing with life and death decisions and the life and death decisions and the comparison life and death decisions and the comparison he life and death decisions and the comparison he made life and death decisions and the comparison he made with life and death decisions and the comparison he made with the life and death decisions and the comparison he made with the long comparison he made with the long hours comparison he made with the long hours that comparison he made with the long hours that investment comparison he made with the long hours that investment bankers comparison he made with the long hours that investment bankers work hours that investment bankers work shuffling hours that investment bankers work shuffling money hours that investment bankers work shuffling money around? hours that investment bankers work shuffling money around? 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No, rates from junior doctors who work unsociable hour? No, that's unsociable hour? No, that's completely unsociable hour? No, that's completely incorrect unsociable hour? No, that's completely incorrect F unsociable hour? No, that's completely incorrect F you unsociable hour? No, that's completely incorrect F you look unsociable hour? 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So of the estimated pressures. So funding of the estimated pressures. So funding has of the estimated pressures. So funding has kept of the estimated pressures. So funding has kept up of the estimated pressures. So funding has kept up with of the estimated pressures. 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It's very similar to the automatic very similar to the automatic savings very similar to the automatic savings that very similar to the automatic savings that Labour very similar to the automatic savings that Labour demanded very similar to the automatic savings that Labour demanded of very similar to the automatic savings that Labour demanded of DBHs savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% of savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% of their savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% of their total savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% of their total budget savings that Labour demanded of DBHs of 0.5% of their total budget each of 0.5% of their total budget each year. of 0.5% of their total budget each year. This of 0.5% of their total budget each year. This is of 0.5% of their total budget each year. This is pretty of 0.5% of their total budget each year. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Social Development: What Social Development: What recent Social Development: What recent announcements Social Development: What recent announcements has Social Development: What recent announcements has she What recent announcements has she made made regarding made regarding efforts made regarding efforts to made regarding efforts to prevent regarding efforts to prevent reoffending reoffending by reoffending by known reoffending by known child reoffending by known child sex by known child sex offenders? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, last Mr Speaker, last week, Mr Speaker, last week, I Mr Speaker, last week, I announced Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that New Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that New Zealand's Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that New Zealand's first Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that New Zealand's first Child Mr Speaker, last week, I announced that New Zealand's first Child Sex that New Zealand's first Child Sex Offender that New Zealand's first Child Sex Offender Register that New Zealand's first Child Sex Offender Register came that New Zealand's first Child Sex Offender Register came into that New Zealand's first Child Sex Offender Register came into effect. Offender Register came into effect. Since Offender Register came into effect. Since Friday, Offender Register came into effect. Since Friday, when Offender Register came into effect. Since Friday, when offenders Since Friday, when offenders convicted Since Friday, when offenders convicted of Since Friday, when offenders convicted of a Since Friday, when offenders convicted of a qualifying Since Friday, when offenders convicted of a qualifying offence convicted of a qualifying offence came convicted of a qualifying offence came out convicted of a qualifying offence came out of convicted of a qualifying offence came out of prison, convicted of a qualifying offence came out of prison, they convicted of a qualifying offence came out of prison, they have convicted of a qualifying offence came out of prison, they have to came out of prison, they have to provide came out of prison, they have to provide authorities came out of prison, they have to provide authorities with came out of prison, they have to provide authorities with a came out of prison, they have to provide authorities with a range came out of prison, they have to provide authorities with a range of provide authorities with a range of personal provide authorities with a range of personal information provide authorities with a range of personal information and provide authorities with a range of personal information and then provide authorities with a range of personal information and then tell personal information and then tell police personal information and then tell police of personal information and then tell police of any personal information and then tell police of any change personal information and then tell police of any change in personal information and then tell police of any change in their police of any change in their circumstances police of any change in their circumstances or police of any change in their circumstances or plans police of any change in their circumstances or plans to police of any change in their circumstances or plans to travel. circumstances or plans to travel. The circumstances or plans to travel. The register circumstances or plans to travel. The register will circumstances or plans to travel. The register will allow circumstances or plans to travel. The register will allow authorities The register will allow authorities to The register will allow authorities to be The register will allow authorities to be more The register will allow authorities to be more pro-active The register will allow authorities to be more pro-active in The register will allow authorities to be more pro-active in identifying to be more pro-active in identifying risk to be more pro-active in identifying risk and to be more pro-active in identifying risk and working to be more pro-active in identifying risk and working to to be more pro-active in identifying risk and working to prevent risk and working to prevent reoffending risk and working to prevent reoffending and risk and working to prevent reoffending and harm risk and working to prevent reoffending and harm to risk and working to prevent reoffending and harm to children. risk and working to prevent reoffending and harm to children. To reoffending and harm to children. To the reoffending and harm to children. To the Minister: reoffending and harm to children. To the Minister: What reoffending and harm to children. To the Minister: What is reoffending and harm to children. To the Minister: What is the reoffending and harm to children. To the Minister: What is the reasoning the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the need the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the need for the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the need for the the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the need for the Child the Minister: What is the reasoning behind the need for the Child Sex behind the need for the Child Sex Offender behind the need for the Child Sex Offender Register? behind the need for the Child Sex Offender Register? Before behind the need for the Child Sex Offender Register? Before the Offender Register? Before the register Offender Register? Before the register came Offender Register? Before the register came into Offender Register? Before the register came into effect, Offender Register? Before the register came into effect, there Offender Register? Before the register came into effect, there was register came into effect, there was very register came into effect, there was very limited register came into effect, there was very limited information register came into effect, there was very limited information available very limited information available to very limited information available to the very limited information available to the authorities very limited information available to the authorities on very limited information available to the authorities on where very limited information available to the authorities on where these to the authorities on where these people to the authorities on where these people were to the authorities on where these people were living to the authorities on where these people were living once to the authorities on where these people were living once they to the authorities on where these people were living once they were people were living once they were released people were living once they were released from people were living once they were released from prison people were living once they were released from prison and people were living once they were released from prison and what people were living once they were released from prison and what was released from prison and what was going released from prison and what was going on released from prison and what was going on in released from prison and what was going on in their released from prison and what was going on in their lives released from prison and what was going on in their lives that released from prison and what was going on in their lives that may going on in their lives that may trigger going on in their lives that may trigger reoffending. going on in their lives that may trigger reoffending. These going on in their lives that may trigger reoffending. These offenders trigger reoffending. These offenders will trigger reoffending. These offenders will no trigger reoffending. These offenders will no longer trigger reoffending. These offenders will no longer be trigger reoffending. These offenders will no longer be able trigger reoffending. These offenders will no longer be able to trigger reoffending. These offenders will no longer be able to disappear will no longer be able to disappear back will no longer be able to disappear back into will no longer be able to disappear back into communities will no longer be able to disappear back into communities after back into communities after completing back into communities after will back into communities after completing the sentence back into communities after completing the sentence and completing the sentence and authorities completing the sentence and authorities will completing the sentence and authorities will now completing the sentence and authorities will now have completing the sentence and authorities will now have a completing the sentence and authorities will now have a much authorities will now have a much better authorities will now have a much better idea authorities will now have a much better idea about authorities will now have a much better idea about where authorities will now have a much better idea about where they authorities will now have a much better idea about where they are better idea about where they are living, better idea about where they are living, and better idea about where they are living, and what better idea about where they are living, and what their better idea about where they are living, and what their personal living, and what their personal circumstances living, and what their personal circumstances are. living, and what their personal circumstances are. 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This will allow them to assess what effect a change them to assess what effect a change in them to assess what effect a change in a them to assess what effect a change in a person's them to assess what effect a change in a person's circumstances them to assess what effect a change in a person's circumstances has them to assess what effect a change in a person's circumstances has on in a person's circumstances has on their in a person's circumstances has on their risk in a person's circumstances has on their risk of in a person's circumstances has on their risk of offending, in a person's circumstances has on their risk of offending, and in a person's circumstances has on their risk of offending, and whether their risk of offending, and whether any their risk of offending, and whether any preventive their risk of offending, and whether any preventive action their risk of offending, and whether any preventive action needs their risk of offending, and whether any preventive action needs to their risk of offending, and whether any preventive action needs to take any preventive action needs to take place. any preventive action needs to take place. Who any preventive action needs to take place. Who will any preventive action needs to take place. Who will have any preventive action needs to take place. Who will have access any preventive action needs to take place. Who will have access to any preventive action needs to take place. Who will have access to the place. Who will have access to the register? place. Who will have access to the register? Mr place. Who will have access to the register? Mr Speaker, place. Who will have access to the register? Mr Speaker, only register? Mr Speaker, only authorised register? Mr Speaker, only authorised and register? Mr Speaker, only authorised and corrections register? Mr Speaker, only authorised and corrections - register? Mr Speaker, only authorised and corrections - police authorised and corrections - police and authorised and corrections - police and corrections authorised and corrections - police and corrections staff authorised and corrections - police and corrections staff involved authorised and corrections - police and corrections staff involved in and corrections staff involved in monitoring and corrections staff involved in monitoring child and corrections staff involved in monitoring child sex and corrections staff involved in monitoring child sex offenders and corrections staff involved in monitoring child sex offenders have monitoring child sex offenders have direct monitoring child sex offenders have direct access monitoring child sex offenders have direct access to monitoring child sex offenders have direct access to the monitoring child sex offenders have direct access to the register. direct access to the register. Information direct access to the register. Information will direct access to the register. Information will be direct access to the register. Information will be able direct access to the register. Information will be able to direct access to the register. Information will be able to be Information will be able to be shared Information will be able to be shared between Information will be able to be shared between police, Information will be able to be shared between police, corrections, shared between police, corrections, the shared between police, corrections, the Ministry shared between police, corrections, the Ministry of shared between police, corrections, the Ministry of Social shared between police, corrections, the Ministry of Social Development, the Ministry of Social Development, Housing the Ministry of Social Development, Housing New the Ministry of Social Development, Housing New Zealand, the Ministry of Social Development, Housing New Zealand, the the Ministry of Social Development, Housing New Zealand, the Dept the Ministry of Social Development, Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Affairs Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Affairs and Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Affairs and customs Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Affairs and customs and Housing New Zealand, the Dept of Internal Affairs and customs and the Internal Affairs and customs and the overseas Internal Affairs and customs and the overseas law Internal Affairs and customs and the overseas law enforcement Internal Affairs and customs and the overseas law enforcement ATSIs. overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will be overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will be able overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will be able to overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will be able to release overseas law enforcement ATSIs. Police will be able to release some Police will be able to release some information Police will be able to release some information to Police will be able to release some information to a Police will be able to release some information to a third Police will be able to release some information to a third party Police will be able to release some information to a third party such Police will be able to release some information to a third party such as information to a third party such as a information to a third party such as a parent information to a third party such as a parent or information to a third party such as a parent or care-givers information to a third party such as a parent or care-givers if information to a third party such as a parent or care-givers if they information to a third party such as a parent or care-givers if they see a parent or care-givers if they see there's a parent or care-givers if they see there's a a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need to a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need to do a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need to do so a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need to do so to a parent or care-givers if they see there's a need to do so to protect there's a need to do so to protect the there's a need to do so to protect the safety there's a need to do so to protect the safety of there's a need to do so to protect the safety of a there's a need to do so to protect the safety of a child there's a need to do so to protect the safety of a child or there's a need to do so to protect the safety of a child or children. the safety of a child or children. This the safety of a child or children. This register the safety of a child or children. This register is the safety of a child or children. This register is part the safety of a child or children. This register is part of the safety of a child or children. This register is part of this This register is part of this government's This register is part of this government's commitment This register is part of this government's commitment to This register is part of this government's commitment to prevent government's commitment to prevent harm government's commitment to prevent the government's commitment to prevent harm to children government's commitment to prevent harm to children and government's commitment to prevent harm to children and another government's commitment to prevent harm to children and another example harm to children and another example of harm to children and another example of our harm to children and another example of our focus harm to children and another example of our focus on harm to children and another example of our focus on this harm to children and another example of our focus on this very harm to children and another example of our focus on this very important of our focus on this very important issue. of our focus on this very important issue. Question of our focus on this very important issue. Question No. of our focus on this very important issue. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: Why Finance: Why did Finance: Why did he Finance: Why did he break Finance: Why did he break his Finance: Why did he break his commitment Why did he break his commitment with Why did he break his commitment with respect Why did he break his commitment with respect to Why did he break his commitment with respect to the Why did he break his commitment with respect to the New with respect to the New Zealand with respect to the New Zealand Super with respect to the New Zealand Super Fund, Zealand Super Fund, "when Zealand Super Fund, "when surpluses Zealand Super Fund, "when surpluses return Zealand Super Fund, "when surpluses return we Zealand Super Fund, "when surpluses return we will "when surpluses return we will resume "when surpluses return we will resume contributions", resume contributions", and resume contributions", and will resume contributions", and will he resume contributions", and will he make and will he make restarting and will he make restarting contributions restarting contributions to restarting contributions to the restarting contributions to the New restarting contributions to the New Zealand restarting contributions to the New Zealand Super restarting contributions to the New Zealand Super Fund restarting contributions to the New Zealand Super Fund a to the New Zealand Super Fund a higher to the New Zealand Super Fund a higher priority higher priority than higher priority than tax higher priority than tax cuts? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, I Mr Speaker, I disagree Mr Speaker, I disagree there Mr Speaker, I disagree there has Mr Speaker, I disagree there has been Mr Speaker, I disagree there has been any Mr Speaker, I disagree there has been any broken Mr Speaker, I disagree there has been any broken commitment Mr Speaker, I disagree there has been any broken commitment regarding been any broken commitment regarding superfund. been any broken commitment regarding superfund. We been any broken commitment regarding superfund. We said been any broken commitment regarding superfund. We said for been any broken commitment regarding superfund. We said for some been any broken commitment regarding superfund. We said for some time superfund. We said for some time when superfund. We said for some time when the superfund. We said for some time when the Government superfund. We said for some time when the Government returns superfund. We said for some time when the Government returns to when the Government returns to sufficient when the Government returns to sufficient budget when the Government returns to sufficient budget surplus when the Government returns to sufficient budget surplus and when the Government returns to sufficient budget surplus and can sufficient budget surplus and can contribute sufficient budget surplus and can contribute genuine sufficient budget surplus and can contribute genuine savings sufficient budget surplus and can contribute genuine savings rather contribute genuine savings rather than contribute genuine savings rather than borrowing, contribute genuine savings rather than borrowing, National contribute genuine savings rather than borrowing, National will contribute genuine savings rather than borrowing, National will resume than borrowing, National will resume contributions than borrowing, National will resume contributions to than borrowing, National will resume contributions to the than borrowing, National will resume contributions to the New than borrowing, National will resume contributions to the New Zealand contributions to the New Zealand superfund. contributions to the New Zealand superfund. 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Well, today I announced Mr Speaker, excellent question. Well, today I announced plans Mr Speaker, excellent question. 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The Government is prisoners projected. The Government is responding with new projected. The Government is responding with new investment. projected. The Government is responding with new investment. We responding with new investment. We are responding with new investment. We are committed responding with new investment. We are committed to responding with new investment. We are committed to ensuring responding with new investment. We are committed to ensuring value responding with new investment. We are committed to ensuring value for are committed to ensuring value for money are committed to ensuring value for money for are committed to ensuring value for money for taxpayers are committed to ensuring value for money for taxpayers and are committed to ensuring value for money for taxpayers and all are committed to ensuring value for money for taxpayers and all the money for taxpayers and all the proposed money for taxpayers and all the proposed beds money for taxpayers and all the proposed beds are money for taxpayers and all the proposed beds are on money for taxpayers and all the proposed beds are on prison money for taxpayers and all the proposed beds are on prison land, proposed beds are on prison land, where proposed beds are on prison land, where a proposed beds are on prison land, where a lot proposed beds are on prison land, where a lot of proposed beds are on prison land, where a lot of the proposed beds are on prison land, where a lot of the infrastructure proposed beds are on prison land, where a lot of the infrastructure is where a lot of the infrastructure is already where a lot of the infrastructure is already in where a lot of the infrastructure is already in place. where a lot of the infrastructure is already in place. Thank where a lot of the infrastructure is already in place. Thank you. where a lot of the infrastructure is already in place. Thank you. To where a lot of the infrastructure is already in place. Thank you. To the already in place. Thank you. To the Minister: already in place. Thank you. To the Minister: How already in place. Thank you. To the Minister: How will already in place. Thank you. To the Minister: How will the already in place. Thank you. To the Minister: How will the prison Minister: How will the prison capacity Minister: How will the prison capacity programme Minister: How will the prison capacity programme further Minister: How will the prison capacity programme further ensure capacity programme further ensure those capacity programme further ensure those in capacity programme further ensure those in prison capacity programme further ensure those in prison get capacity programme further ensure those in prison get the capacity programme further ensure those in prison get the treatment those in prison get the treatment and those in prison get the treatment and rehabilitation those in prison get the treatment and rehabilitation they those in prison get the treatment and rehabilitation they need those in prison get the treatment and rehabilitation they need to and rehabilitation they need to reduce and rehabilitation they need to reduce reoffending? and rehabilitation they need to reduce reoffending? Mr and rehabilitation they need to reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, and rehabilitation they need to reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the prison reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the prison capacity reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the prison capacity programme reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the prison capacity programme is reduce reoffending? Mr Speaker, the prison capacity programme is not prison capacity programme is not just prison capacity programme is not just about prison capacity programme is not just about bricks prison capacity programme is not just about bricks and prison capacity programme is not just about bricks and mortar prison capacity programme is not just about bricks and mortar but just about bricks and mortar but also just about bricks and mortar but also aimed just about bricks and mortar but also aimed at just about bricks and mortar but also aimed at the just about bricks and mortar but also aimed at the drivers just about bricks and mortar but also aimed at the drivers of just about bricks and mortar but also aimed at the drivers of crime, also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug and also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug and alcohol also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug and alcohol abuse also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug and alcohol abuse and also aimed at the drivers of crime, drug and alcohol abuse and domestic drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence, drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence, along drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence, along with drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence, along with ensuring drug and alcohol abuse and domestic violence, along with ensuring public violence, along with ensuring public safety violence, along with ensuring public safety reducing violence, along with ensuring public safety reducing reoffending violence, along with ensuring public safety reducing reoffending as safety reducing reoffending as corrections' safety reducing reoffending as violence, safety reducing reoffending as corrections' ultimate goal. corrections' ultimate goal. Corrections corrections' ultimate goal. Corrections actively corrections' ultimate goal. Corrections actively works corrections' ultimate goal. Corrections actively works with Corrections actively works with offenders Corrections actively works with offenders to Corrections actively works with offenders to provide Corrections actively works with offenders to provide rehabilitation, offenders to provide rehabilitation, education, offenders to provide rehabilitation, education, employment offenders to provide rehabilitation, education, employment and offenders to provide rehabilitation, education, employment and training education, employment and training that education, employment and training that makes education, employment and training that makes positive education, employment and training that makes positive differences education, employment and training that makes positive differences in that makes positive differences in assisting that makes positive differences in assisting prisoners that makes positive differences in assisting prisoners to that makes positive differences in assisting prisoners to turn that makes positive differences in assisting prisoners to turn around assisting prisoners to turn around their assisting prisoners to turn around their lives. assisting prisoners to turn around their lives. The assisting prisoners to turn around their lives. The programme assisting prisoners to turn around their lives. The programme will their lives. The programme will increase their lives. The programme will increase delivery their lives. The programme will increase delivery of their lives. The programme will increase delivery of the increase delivery of the department's increase delivery of the department's most increase delivery of the department's most successful department's most successful rehabilitation department's most successful rehabilitation and department's most successful rehabilitation and re-enter department's most successful rehabilitation and re-enter greytive rehabilitation and re-enter greytive programmes rehabilitation and re-enter greytive programmes including rehabilitation and re-enter greytive programmes including drug rehabilitation and re-enter greytive programmes including drug treatment programmes including drug treatment units programmes including drug treatment units to programmes including drug treatment units to address programmes including drug treatment units to address drug programmes including drug treatment units to address drug and units to address drug and alcohol-related units to address drug and alcohol-related issues, units to address drug and alcohol-related issues, special alcohol-related issues, special treatment alcohol-related issues, special alcohol-related alcohol-related issues, special treatment units to alcohol-related issues, special treatment units to address alcohol-related issues, special treatment units to address violent treatment units to address violent and treatment units to address violent and sexual treatment units to address violent and sexual offending, treatment units to address violent and sexual offending, reintegration and sexual offending, reintegration programmes and sexual offending, reintegration programmes including and sexual offending, reintegration programmes including out and sexual offending, reintegration programmes including out of and sexual offending, reintegration programmes including out of gate and sexual offending, reintegration programmes including out of gate and programmes including out of gate and guided programmes including out of gate and guided release programmes including out of gate and guided release and programmes including out of gate and guided release and education guided release and education training guided release and education training programmes guided release and education training programmes such guided release and education training programmes such as guided release and education training programmes such as core training programmes such as core literacy, training programmes such as core literacy, numeracy training programmes such as core literacy, numeracy and training programmes such as core literacy, numeracy and industry literacy, numeracy and industry training. literacy, numeracy and industry training. Question literacy, numeracy and industry training. Question No. literacy, numeracy and industry training. Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Finance: Would Finance: Would he Finance: Would he act Finance: Would he act to Finance: Would he act to further Finance: Would he act to further regulate Would he act to further regulate Crown Would he act to further regulate Crown Financial Would he act to further regulate Crown Financial Institutions Crown Financial Institutions if Crown Financial Institutions if they Crown Financial Institutions if they were Crown Financial Institutions if they were found Crown Financial Institutions if they were found to Crown Financial Institutions if they were found to still Crown Financial Institutions if they were found to still be if they were found to still be directly if they were found to still be directly or if they were found to still be directly or indirectly if they were found to still be directly or indirectly investing directly or indirectly investing in directly or indirectly investing in companies directly or indirectly investing in companies involved directly or indirectly investing in companies involved in in companies involved in the in companies involved in the manufacture in companies involved in the manufacture of in companies involved in the manufacture of cluster in companies involved in the manufacture of cluster bombs, the manufacture of cluster bombs, nuclear the manufacture of cluster bombs, nuclear weapons, the manufacture of cluster bombs, nuclear weapons, land the manufacture of cluster bombs, nuclear weapons, land mines, nuclear weapons, land mines, tobacco, nuclear weapons, land mines, the nuclear weapons, land mines, tobacco, or whaling? 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I'd just like to explain briefly for the member how explain briefly for the member how the explain briefly for the member how the independent explain briefly for the member how the independent investment the independent investment activities the independent investment the the independent investment activities are already the independent investment activities are already subject the independent investment activities are already subject to the independent investment activities are already subject to a activities are already subject to a range activities are already subject to a range of activities are already subject to a range of requirements activities are already subject to a range of requirements for activities are already subject to a range of requirements for ethical range of requirements for ethical investment. range of requirements for ethical investment. Each range of requirements for ethical investment. Each CFI range of requirements for ethical investment. Each CFI runs range of requirements for ethical investment. Each CFI runs an investment. Each CFI runs an exclusion investment. Each CFI runs an exclusion list investment. Each CFI runs an exclusion list that investment. Each CFI runs an exclusion list that prevents investment. Each CFI runs an exclusion list that prevents direct exclusion list that prevents direct investment exclusion list that prevents direct investment in exclusion list that prevents direct investment in the exclusion list that prevents direct investment in the companies exclusion list that prevents direct investment in the companies on exclusion list that prevents direct investment in the companies on those investment in the companies on those exclusion investment in the companies on those exclusion lists. investment in the companies on those exclusion lists. All investment in the companies on those exclusion lists. All of investment in the companies on those exclusion lists. All of the exclusion lists. All of the activities exclusion lists. All of the activities the exclusion lists. All of the activities the member exclusion lists. All of the activities the member asked exclusion lists. All of the activities the member asked about activities the member asked about are activities the member asked about are excluded activities the member asked about are excluded by activities the member asked about are excluded by these activities the member asked about are excluded by these lists. activities the member asked about are excluded by these lists. CFIs are excluded by these lists. CFIs may are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also invest are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also invest in are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also invest in what are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also invest in what are are excluded by these lists. CFIs may also invest in what are called may also invest in what are called "collective may also invest in what are called "collective investment may also invest in what are called "collective investment vehicles" may also invest in what are called "collective investment vehicles" - "collective investment vehicles" - CIVs. "collective investment vehicles" - CIVs. Most "collective investment vehicles" - CIVs. Most recently "collective investment vehicles" - CIVs. Most recently figures "collective investment vehicles" - CIVs. Most recently figures show CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIV CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIV investments CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIV investments are CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIV investments are a CIVs. Most recently figures show that CIV investments are a small that CIV investments are a small proportion, that CIV investments are a small proportion, around that CIV investments are a small proportion, around 3% that CIV investments are a small proportion, around 3% of that CIV investments are a small proportion, around 3% of ACC that CIV investments are a small proportion, around 3% of ACC in that CIV investments are a small proportion, around 3% of ACC in New proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand Super proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand Super and proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand Super and 13% proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand Super and 13% of proportion, around 3% of ACC in New Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios which Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios which is Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios which is just Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios which is just short Zealand Super and 13% of GFF's portfolios which is just short of portfolios which is just short of $70 portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If a portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If a CFI portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If a CFI looms portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If a CFI looms that portfolios which is just short of $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle has $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle has invested $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle has invested in $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle has invested in the $70 billion. If a CFI looms that a vehicle has invested in the company vehicle has invested in the company on vehicle has invested in the company on the vehicle has invested in the company on the ex-solution vehicle has invested in the company on the ex-solution list, vehicle has invested in the company on the ex-solution list, that vehicle has invested in the company on the ex-solution list, that is on the ex-solution list, that is investing on the ex-solution list, that is investing the on the ex-solution list, that is investing the activities on the ex-solution list, that is investing the activities the on the ex-solution list, that is investing the activities the member investing the activities the member referred investing the activities the member referred to, investing the activities the member referred to, the investing the activities the member referred to, the CFI investing the activities the member referred to, the CFI will investing the activities the member referred to, the CFI will engage referred to, the CFI will engage with referred to, the CFI will engage with the referred to, the CFI will engage with the fund referred to, the CFI will engage with the fund manager referred to, the CFI will engage with the fund manager to referred to, the CFI will engage with the fund manager to try referred to, the CFI will engage with the fund manager to try to with the fund manager to try to influence with the fund manager to try to influence their with the fund manager to try to influence their behaviour with the fund manager to try to influence their behaviour or influence their behaviour or consider influence their behaviour or consider divestment. influence their behaviour or consider divestment. Finally influence their behaviour or consider divestment. Finally all consider divestment. Finally all CFIs consider divestment. Finally all CFIs are consider divestment. Finally all CFIs are signatories consider divestment. Finally all CFIs are signatories to consider divestment. Finally all CFIs are signatories to the consider divestment. Finally all CFIs are signatories to the UN's CFIs are signatories to the UN's principles CFIs are signatories to the UN's principles for CFIs are signatories to the UN's principles for responsible principles for responsible investment principles for responsible investment and principles for responsible investment and if principles for responsible investment and if a principles for responsible investment and if a -- principles for responsible investment and if a -- have principles for responsible investment and if a -- have adopted investment and if a -- have adopted the investment and if a -- have adopted the upglobal investment and if a -- have adopted the upglobal compact. investment and if a -- have adopted the upglobal compact. These investment and if a -- have adopted the upglobal compact. These require the upglobal compact. These require signatories the upglobal compact. These require signatories to the upglobal compact. These require signatories to establish the upglobal compact. These require signatories to establish a signatories to establish a responsible signatories to establish a responsible investment signatories to establish a responsible investment framework responsible investment framework which responsible investment framework which is responsible investment framework which is subject responsible investment framework which is subject to responsible investment framework which is subject to the responsible investment framework which is subject to the following which is subject to the following statutes which is subject to the following statutes and which is subject to the following statutes and resolutions. which is subject to the following statutes and resolutions. The which is subject to the following statutes and resolutions. The New statutes and resolutions. The New Zealand statutes and resolutions. The New Zealand nuclear-free statutes and resolutions. The New Zealand nuclear-free zone Zealand nuclear-free zone disarmament Zealand nuclear-free zone disarmament and Zealand nuclear-free zone disarmament and arms Zealand nuclear-free zone disarmament and arms control Zealand nuclear-free zone disarmament and arms control act disarmament and arms control act 1987, disarmament and arms control act 1987, the disarmament and arms control act 1987, the cluster disarmament and arms control act 1987, the cluster munitions 1987, the cluster munitions prohibition 1987, the cluster munitions disarmament 1987, the cluster munitions prohibition act twip. 1987, the cluster munitions prohibition act twip. The prohibition act twip. The antipersonnel prohibition act twip. The antipersonnel mines prohibition act twip. The antipersonnel mines prohibition prohibition act twip. The antipersonnel mines prohibition Act antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 and antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 and two antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 and two UN antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 and two UN Security antipersonnel mines prohibition Act 1998 and two UN Security Council 1998 and two UN Security Council resolutions 1998 and two UN Security Council resolutions regarding 1998 and two UN Security Council resolutions regarding nuclear resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given all resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given all of resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given all of that, resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given all of that, is resolutions regarding nuclear weapons. So given all of that, is he weapons. So given all of that, is he saying weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that it weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that it is weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that it is acceptable weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that it is acceptable for weapons. So given all of that, is he saying that it is acceptable for the saying that it is acceptable for the Government saying that it is acceptable for the Government to saying that it is acceptable for the Government to indirectly saying that it is acceptable for the Government to indirectly invest saying that it is acceptable for the Government to indirectly invest and Government to indirectly invest and profit Government to indirectly invest and profit from Government to indirectly invest and profit from companies Government to indirectly invest and profit from companies that profit from companies that manufacture profit from companies that manufacture cluster profit from companies that manufacture cluster bombs profit from companies that manufacture cluster bombs that profit from companies that manufacture cluster bombs that blow manufacture cluster bombs that blow the manufacture cluster bombs that blow the legs manufacture cluster bombs that blow the legs off manufacture cluster bombs that blow the legs off children? manufacture cluster bombs that blow the legs off children? Well, manufacture cluster bombs that blow the legs off children? Well, Mr the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, we the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, we would the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, we would expect the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, we would expect the the legs off children? Well, Mr Speaker, we would expect the fund Speaker, we would expect the fund who Speaker, we would expect the fund who became Speaker, we would expect the fund who became aware Speaker, we would expect the fund who became aware of Speaker, we would expect the fund who became aware of an Speaker, we would expect the fund who became aware of an investment Speaker, we would expect the fund who became aware of an investment in who became aware of an investment in one who became aware of an investment in one of who became aware of an investment in one of the who became aware of an investment in one of the excluded who became aware of an investment in one of the excluded activities who became aware of an investment in one of the excluded activities would one of the excluded activities would then one of the excluded activities would then take one of the excluded activities would then take the one of the excluded activities would then take the action one of the excluded activities would then take the action required one of the excluded activities would then take the action required to then take the action required to comply then take the action required to comply with then take the action required to comply with their then take the action required to comply with their own then take the action required to comply with their own rules. then take the action required to comply with their own rules. That then take the action required to comply with their own rules. That is comply with their own rules. That is to comply with their own rules. That is to either comply with their own rules. That is to either influence comply with their own rules. That is to either influence in comply with their own rules. That is to either influence in this comply with their own rules. That is to either influence in this case comply with their own rules. That is to either influence in this case the to either influence in this case the collective to either influence in this case the collective investment to either influence in this case the collective investment vehicle to either influence in this case the collective investment vehicle that collective investment vehicle that would collective investment vehicle that to collective investment vehicle that would be - collective investment vehicle that would be - that collective investment vehicle that would be - that may collective investment vehicle that would be - that may be collective investment vehicle that would be - that may be investing collective investment vehicle that would be - that may be investing at would be - that may be investing at one would be - that may be investing at one or would be - that may be investing at one or two would be - that may be investing at one or two arms' would be - that may be investing at one or two arms' length would be - that may be investing at one or two arms' length in would be - that may be investing at one or two arms' length in such one or two arms' length in such activities, one or two arms' length in such activities, or one or two arms' length in such activities, or to one or two arms' length in such activities, or to divest. Is Is he Is he aware Is he aware that Is he aware that the Is he aware that the Government's Is he aware that the Government's superannuation Is he aware that the Government's superannuation authority Is he aware that the Government's superannuation authority continues superannuation authority continues to superannuation authority continues to invest superannuation authority continues to invest in superannuation authority continues to invest in three superannuation authority continues to invest in three tobacco to invest in three tobacco companies, to invest in three tobacco companies, even to invest in three tobacco companies, even though to invest in three tobacco companies, even though the to invest in three tobacco companies, even though the authority companies, even though the authority itself companies, even though the authority itself has companies, even though the authority itself has found companies, even though the authority itself has found these companies, even though the authority itself has found these companies itself has found these companies unethical? itself has found these companies unethical? And itself has found these companies unethical? And isn't itself has found these companies unethical? And isn't it itself has found these companies unethical? And isn't it time itself has found these companies unethical? And isn't it time to itself has found these companies unethical? And isn't it time to make unethical? And isn't it time to make the unethical? And isn't it time to make the law unethical? And isn't it time to make the law clear unethical? And isn't it time to make the law clear senior unethical? And isn't it time to make the law clear senior -- unethical? And isn't it time to make the law clear senior -- clearer? unethical? And isn't it time to make the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I think the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I think the the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I think the law the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I think the law is the law clear senior -- clearer? Mr Speaker, I think the law is pretty Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear and Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear and the Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear and the super Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear and the super fund Speaker, I think the law is pretty clear and the super fund should clear and the super fund should comply clear and the super fund should comply both clear and the super fund should comply both with clear and the super fund should comply both with the clear and the super fund should comply both with the law clear and the super fund should comply both with the law and clear and the super fund should comply both with the law and with clear and the super fund should comply both with the law and with an comply both with the law and with an ethical comply both with the law and with an ethical investment comply both with the law and with an ethical investment framework, comply both with the law and with an ethical investment framework, which ethical investment framework, which I'm ethical investment framework, which I'm advised ethical investment framework, which I'm advised is ethical investment framework, which I'm advised is one ethical investment framework, which I'm advised is one of ethical investment framework, which I'm advised is one of the ethical investment framework, which I'm advised is one of the most I'm advised is one of the most developed I'm advised is one of the most developed among I'm advised is one of the most developed among sovereign I'm advised is one of the most developed among sovereign funds I'm advised is one of the most developed among sovereign funds in developed among sovereign funds in the developed among sovereign funds in the world. the world. A the world. A point the world. A point of the world. A point of order, the world. A point of order, James the world. A point of order, James Shaw. the world. A point of order, James Shaw. Just A point of order, James Shaw. Just for A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, I A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, I was A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, I was referring A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, I was referring to A point of order, James Shaw. Just for clarity, I was referring to the for clarity, I was referring to the for clarity, I was referring to the for clarity, I was referring to the Government's superannuation Government's superannuation authority, Government's superannuation authority, not Government's superannuation authority, not the Government's superannuation authority, not the super Government's superannuation authority, not the super fund. Government's superannuation authority, not the super fund. My authority, not the super fund. My difficulty authority, not the super fund. My difficulty is authority, not the super fund. My difficulty is the authority, not the super fund. My difficulty is the member authority, not the super fund. My difficulty is the member actually difficulty is the member actually asked difficulty is the member actually asked two difficulty is the member actually asked two questions. difficulty is the member actually asked two questions. He difficulty is the member actually asked two questions. He then difficulty is the member actually asked two questions. He then also asked two questions. He then also asked asked two questions. He then also asked is asked two questions. He then also asked is it asked two questions. He then also asked is it not asked two questions. He then also asked is it not time asked two questions. He then also asked is it not time to asked two questions. He then also asked is it not time to make asked two questions. He then also asked is it not time to make the asked two questions. He then also asked is it not time to make the law asked is it not time to make the law clearer asked is it not time to make the law clearer and asked is it not time to make the law clearer and the asked is it not time to make the law clearer and the Minister asked is it not time to make the law clearer and the Minister immediately clearer and the Minister immediately addressed clearer and the Minister immediately addressed that. clearer and the Minister immediately addressed that. That's clearer and the Minister immediately addressed that. That's enough clearer and the Minister immediately addressed that. That's enough to addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. Does addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. Does he addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. Does he agree addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. Does he agree with addressed that. That's enough to satisfy. Does he agree with ACC satisfy. Does he agree with ACC investment satisfy. Does he agree with ACC investment fund's satisfy. Does he agree with ACC investment fund's position satisfy. Does he agree with ACC investment fund's position statement investment fund's position statement stating investment fund's position statement stating that investment fund's position statement stating that they investment fund's position statement stating that they think investment fund's position statement stating that they think indirect stating that they think indirect investments stating that they think indirect investments and stating that they think indirect investments and cluster stating that they think indirect investments and cluster bomb investments and cluster bomb manufacturers investments and cluster bomb manufacturers are investments and cluster bomb manufacturers are perfectly investments and cluster bomb manufacturers are perfectly legal? manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr Speaker, manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr Speaker, we manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr Speaker, we - manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, manufacturers are perfectly legal? Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would expect Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would expect them Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would expect them to Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would expect them to comply Well, Mr Speaker, we - again, we would expect them to comply both would expect them to comply both with would expect them to comply both with the would expect them to comply both with the statute would expect them to comply both with the statute that would expect them to comply both with the statute that applied would expect them to comply both with the statute that applied that with the statute that applied that create with the statute that applied that create as with the statute that applied that create as framework with the statute that applied that create as framework for with the statute that applied that create as framework for their create as framework for their investment create as framework for their investment decisions, create as framework for their investment decisions, and create as framework for their investment decisions, and with create as framework for their investment decisions, and with any investment decisions, and with any undertakings investment decisions, and with any undertakings that investment decisions, and with any undertakings that they investment decisions, and with any undertakings that they have investment decisions, and with any undertakings that they have made, investment decisions, and with any undertakings that they have made, as undertakings that they have made, as I undertakings that they have made, as I said, undertakings that they have made, as I said, as undertakings that they have made, as I said, as signatureries undertakings that they have made, as I said, as signatureries to undertakings that they have made, as I said, as signatureries to the I said, as signatureries to the United I said, as signatureries to the United Nations I said, as signatureries to the United Nations Principles I said, as signatureries to the United Nations Principles for United Nations Principles for Responsible United Nations Principles for Responsible Investment. 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And I think the member would probably give the member would probably give credit the member would probably give credit to the member would probably give credit to these the member would probably give credit to these organisations the member would probably give credit to these organisations that, credit to these organisations that, as credit to these organisations that, as and credit to these organisations that, as and when credit to these organisations that, as and when issues credit to these organisations that, as and when issues are credit to these organisations that, as and when issues are raised as and when issues are raised regarding as and when issues are raised regarding investment as and when issues are raised regarding investment in as and when issues are raised regarding investment in companies regarding investment in companies regarding investment in companies regarding investment in companies that are regarding investment in companies that are on regarding investment in companies that are on the regarding investment in companies that are on the exclusion regarding investment in companies that are on the exclusion list, regarding investment in companies that are on the exclusion list, from that are on the exclusion list, from what that are on the exclusion list, from what I that are on the exclusion list, from what I have that are on the exclusion list, from what I have seen that are on the exclusion list, from what I have seen n that are on the exclusion list, from what I have seen n each that are on the exclusion list, from what I have seen n each case that are on the exclusion list, from what I have seen n each case the what I have seen n each case the funds what I have seen n each case the funds have what I have seen n each case the funds have acted what I have seen n each case the funds have acted appropriately. funds have acted appropriately. 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I seek leave to table ACC Investment point of order, James Shaw. I seek leave to table ACC Investment Fund's leave to table ACC Investment Fund's position leave to table ACC Investment Fund's position statement leave to table ACC Investment Fund's position statement on leave to table ACC Investment Fund's position statement on investment leave to table ACC Investment Fund's position statement on investment in position statement on investment in cluster position statement on investment in cluster bombs position statement on investment in cluster bombs obtained position statement on investment in cluster bombs obtained under position statement on investment in cluster bombs obtained under the cluster bombs obtained under the ficial cluster bombs obtained under the ficial Information cluster bombs obtained under the ficial Information Act. cluster bombs obtained under the ficial Information Act. Is cluster bombs obtained under the ficial Information Act. Is it cluster bombs obtained under the ficial Information Act. Is it freely ficial Information Act. Is it freely available ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ACC ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ACC website ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ACC website No, ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ACC website No, sir. ficial Information Act. Is it freely available on ACC website No, sir. I available on ACC website No, sir. I put available on ACC website No, sir. I put leave available on ACC website No, sir. I put leave to available on ACC website No, sir. I put leave to table available on ACC website No, sir. I put leave to table that available on ACC website No, sir. I put leave to table that particular put leave to table that particular position put leave to table that particular position statement. put leave to table that particular position statement. Is put leave to table that particular position statement. Is there put leave to table that particular position statement. Is there any position statement. Is there any objection? position statement. Is there any objection? There position statement. Is there any objection? There is position statement. Is there any objection? There is none. position statement. Is there any objection? There is none. It position statement. Is there any objection? There is none. It can position statement. Is there any objection? There is none. It can be objection? There is none. It can be tabled. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Thank objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Thank you. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it a tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it a double tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it a double standard tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it a double standard for tabled. Thank you. Supplementary. Isn't it a double standard for the Isn't it a double standard for the Government Isn't it a double standard for the Government funds Isn't it a double standard for the Government funds to Isn't it a double standard for the Government funds to continue Isn't it a double standard for the Government funds to continue to Government funds to continue to invest Government funds to continue to invest indirectly Government funds to continue to invest indirectly in Government funds to continue to invest indirectly in cluster Government funds to continue to invest indirectly in cluster bomb invest indirectly in cluster bomb makers, invest indirectly in cluster bomb makers, for invest indirectly in cluster bomb makers, for example, invest indirectly in cluster bomb makers, for example, when invest indirectly in cluster bomb makers, for example, when the makers, for example, when the KiwiSaver makers, for example, when the KiwiSaver providers makers, for example, when the KiwiSaver providers immediately KiwiSaver providers immediately dropped KiwiSaver providers immediately dropped their KiwiSaver providers immediately dropped their indirect KiwiSaver providers immediately dropped their indirect investments? dropped their indirect investments? 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And if it is the case that ACC are not complying with that ACC are not complying with those, that ACC are not complying with those, then that ACC are not complying with those, then that that ACC are not complying with those, then that would that ACC are not complying with those, then that would be that ACC are not complying with those, then that would be a that ACC are not complying with those, then that would be a matter those, then that would be a matter of those, then that would be a matter of governance those, then that would be a matter of governance which those, then that would be a matter of governance which I'm those, then that would be a matter of governance which I'm sure those, then that would be a matter of governance which I'm sure would of governance which I'm sure would be of governance which I'm sure would be raised of governance which I'm sure would be raised with of governance which I'm sure would be raised with them. of governance which I'm sure would be raised with them. 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We would expect them further collector vehicles. We would expect them to further collector vehicles. We would expect them to have further collector vehicles. We would expect them to have the further collector vehicles. We would expect them to have the systems further collector vehicles. We would expect them to have the systems that expect them to have the systems that enable expect them to have the systems that enable them expect them to have the systems that enable them to expect them to have the systems that enable them to know expect them to have the systems that enable them to know where expect them to have the systems that enable them to know where - expect them to have the systems that enable them to know where - be expect them to have the systems that enable them to know where - be able enable them to know where - be able to enable them to know where - be able to track enable them to know where - be able to track their enable them to know where - be able to track their investments enable them to know where - be able to track their investments and to track their investments and respond to track their investments and respond consistent to track their investments and respond consistent with to track their investments and respond consistent with the respond consistent with the framework respond consistent with the framework in respond consistent with the framework in a respond consistent with the framework in a way respond consistent with the framework in a way that respond consistent with the framework in a way that I respond consistent with the framework in a way that I think respond consistent with the framework in a way that I think the framework in a way that I think the member framework in a way that I think the member and framework in a way that I think the member and the framework in a way that I think the member and the Government framework in a way that I think the member and the Government will member and the Government will probably member and the Government will probably agree member and the Government will probably agree on. member and the Government will probably agree on. 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I think it's safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers made safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers made statements safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers made statements within safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers made statements within a safe to say that Kiwi saimp funds managers made statements within a -- managers made statements within a -- KiwiSaver managers made statements within a -- KiwiSaver funds managers made statements within a -- KiwiSaver funds managers managers made statements within a -- KiwiSaver funds managers made KiwiSaver funds managers made statements KiwiSaver funds managers made statements within KiwiSaver funds managers made statements within a KiwiSaver funds managers made statements within a few KiwiSaver funds managers made statements within a few days. statements within a few days. Whether statements within a few days. Whether they statements within a few days. 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We expect Crown Financial have to check up with them. We expect Crown Financial Institutions expect Crown Financial Institutions to expect Crown Financial Institutions to act expect Crown Financial Institutions to act in expect Crown Financial Institutions to act in a expect Crown Financial Institutions to act in a way expect Crown Financial Institutions to act in a way that's expect Crown Financial Institutions to act in a way that's consistent to act in a way that's consistent with to act in a way that's consistent with their to act in a way that's consistent with their own to act in a way that's consistent with their own ethical to act in a way that's consistent with their own ethical investment with their own ethical investment practices with their own ethical investment practices and with their own ethical investment practices and with with their own ethical investment practices and with the with their own ethical investment practices and with the statutes with their own ethical investment practices and with the statutes that practices and with the statutes that govern practices and with the statutes that govern them. practices and with the statutes that govern them. Question practices and with the statutes that govern them. Question No. practices and with the statutes that govern them. Question No. 10. practices and with the statutes that govern them. Question No. 10. Stuart govern them. Question No. 10. Stuart Nash. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: Police: Is Police: Is the Police: Is the Government Police: Is the Government winning Is the Government winning its Is the Government winning its so-called Is the Government winning its so-called "war Is the Government winning its so-called "war on Is the Government winning its so-called "war on P", its so-called "war on P", given its so-called "war on P", given the its so-called "war on P", given the drug its so-called "war on P", given the drug is its so-called "war on P", given the drug is now its so-called "war on P", given the drug is now cheaper, its so-called "war on P", given the drug is now cheaper, more given the drug is now cheaper, more pure, pure, and pure, and more pure, and more readily pure, and more readily available pure, and more readily available than and more readily available than ever, ever, according ever, according to ever, according to the ever, according to the Police ever, according to the Police Association? The The Hon The Hon Judith The Hon Judith Collins. The Hon Judith Collins. Mr The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, victory The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, victory won't The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, victory won't be The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, victory won't be declared The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, victory won't be declared until victory won't be declared until there's victory won't be declared until there's no victory won't be declared until there's no more victory won't be declared until there's no more methamphetamine there's no more methamphetamine being there's no more methamphetamine being bought there's no more methamphetamine being bought and there's no more methamphetamine being bought and sold there's no more methamphetamine being bought and sold in there's no more methamphetamine being bought and sold in New being bought and sold in New Zealand. being bought and sold in New Zealand. And being bought and sold in New Zealand. And while being bought and sold in New Zealand. And while there's being bought and sold in New Zealand. And while there's always Zealand. And while there's always more Zealand. And while there's always more that Zealand. And while there's always more that can Zealand. And while there's always more that can be Zealand. And while there's always more that can be done, Zealand. And while there's always more that can be done, the more that can be done, the Government more that can be done, the Government has more that can be done, the Government has made more that can be done, the Government has made excellent Government has made excellent progress Government has made excellent progress tackling Government has made excellent progress tackling the Government has made excellent progress tackling the problem. Government has made excellent progress tackling the problem. So progress tackling the problem. So far, progress tackling the problem. So far, we're progress tackling the problem. So far, we're seizing progress tackling the problem. So far, we're seizing more far, we're seizing more methamphetamine far, we're seizing more methamphetamine than far, we're seizing more methamphetamine than ever. far, we're seizing more methamphetamine than ever. Police methamphetamine than ever. Police have methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized almost methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized almost a methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized almost a tonne methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized almost a tonne this methamphetamine than ever. Police have seized almost a tonne this year have seized almost a tonne this year so have seized almost a tonne this year so far have seized almost a tonne this year so far and have seized almost a tonne this year so far and Mr have seized almost a tonne this year so far and Mr Parker have seized almost a tonne this year so far and Mr Parker might have seized almost a tonne this year so far and Mr Parker might think so far and Mr Parker might think that so far and Mr Parker might think that that's so far and Mr Parker might think that that's something so far and Mr Parker might think that that's something to so far and Mr Parker might think that that's something to laugh so far and Mr Parker might think that that's something to laugh at, that that's something to laugh at, but that that's something to laugh at, but I that that's something to laugh at, but I don't. that that's something to laugh at, but I don't. We're that that's something to laugh at, but I don't. We're taking that that's something to laugh at, but I don't. We're taking the but I don't. We're taking the proceeds but I don't. We're taking the proceeds of but I don't. We're taking the proceeds of crime but I don't. We're taking the proceeds of crime from but I don't. We're taking the proceeds of crime from criminals, proceeds of crime from criminals, over proceeds of crime from criminals, over business proceeds of crime from criminals, over business $3990 proceeds of crime from criminals, over business $3990 million proceeds of crime from criminals, over business $3990 million million over business $3990 million million of over business $3990 million million of cash over business $3990 million million of cash and over business $3990 million million of cash and assets over business $3990 million million of cash and assets since over business $3990 million million of cash and assets since 2009. over business $3990 million million of cash and assets since 2009. Just of cash and assets since 2009. Just yesterday, of cash and assets since 2009. Just yesterday, the of cash and assets since 2009. Just yesterday, the PM of cash and assets since 2009. Just yesterday, the PM announced of cash and assets since 2009. Just yesterday, the PM announced that yesterday, the PM announced that almost yesterday, the PM announced that almost $15 yesterday, the PM announced that almost $15 million yesterday, the PM announced that almost $15 million seized yesterday, the PM announced that almost $15 million seized from almost $15 million seized from criminals almost $15 million seized from criminals will almost $15 million seized from criminals will be almost $15 million seized from criminals will be invested almost $15 million seized from criminals will be invested from criminals will be invested from anti-drug criminals will be invested from anti-drug initiatives criminals will be invested from anti-drug initiatives to criminals will be invested from anti-drug initiatives to reduce anti-drug initiatives to reduce supply anti-drug initiatives to reduce supply and anti-drug initiatives to reduce supply and demand, anti-drug initiatives to reduce supply and demand, with anti-drug initiatives to reduce supply and demand, with extra supply and demand, with extra funding supply and demand, with extra funding from supply and demand, with extra funding from Police, supply and demand, with extra funding from Police, Customs, supply and demand, with extra funding from Police, Customs, Health funding from Police, Customs, Health and funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. If funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. If this funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. If this is funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. If this is such funding from Police, Customs, Health and Corrections. If this is such an and Corrections. If this is such an important and Corrections. If this is such an important area, and Corrections. If this is such an important area, why and Corrections. If this is such an important area, why has and Corrections. If this is such an important area, why has the and Corrections. If this is such an important area, why has the number important area, why has the number of important area, why has the number of police important area, why has the number of police officers important area, why has the number of police officers dedicated important area, why has the number of police officers dedicated to important area, why has the number of police officers dedicated to drug of police officers dedicated to drug crime of police officers dedicated to drug crime been of police officers dedicated to drug crime been cut of police officers dedicated to drug crime been cut in of police officers dedicated to drug crime been cut in the of police officers dedicated to drug crime been cut in the last of police officers dedicated to drug crime been cut in the last three crime been cut in the last three years crime been cut in the last three years according crime been cut in the last three years according to crime been cut in the last three years according to her crime been cut in the last three years according to her own crime been cut in the last three years according to her own figures? years according to her own figures? Well, years according to her own figures? Well, Mr years according to her own figures? Well, Mr Speaker, years according to her own figures? Well, Mr Speaker, obviously years according to her own figures? Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that member Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that member doesn't Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that member doesn't realise Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that member doesn't realise that Well, Mr Speaker, obviously that member doesn't realise that every member doesn't realise that every member member doesn't realise that every member of member doesn't realise that every member of NZ member doesn't realise that every member of NZ Police member doesn't realise that every member of NZ Police is member doesn't realise that every member of NZ Police is dedicated member doesn't realise that every member of NZ Police is dedicated to member of NZ Police is dedicated to actually member of NZ Police is dedicated to actually dealing member of NZ Police is dedicated to actually dealing with member of NZ Police is dedicated to actually dealing with this member of NZ Police is dedicated to actually dealing with this area. actually dealing with this area. 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Does she support the continue being sold. Does she support the PM's continue being sold. Does she support the PM's support continue being sold. Does she support the PM's support for continue being sold. 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Question No. 11. Ron said P wasn't an issue. Question No. 11. Ron Mark. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does he Minister: Does he stand Minister: Does he stand by Minister: Does he stand by all Minister: Does he stand by all his Does he stand by all his statements; Does he stand by all his statements; if Does he stand by all his statements; if so, Does he stand by all his statements; if so, how? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as PM. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as PM. Thank The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as PM. Thank you. The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as PM. Thank you. Thank The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, yes, and as PM. Thank you. 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To the PM: How can he say his Government is "not losing the his Government is "not losing the war his Government is "not losing the war on his Government is "not losing the war on P" his Government is "not losing the war on P" when his Government is "not losing the war on P" when after his Government is "not losing the war on P" when after eight his Government is "not losing the war on P" when after eight years his Government is "not losing the war on P" when after eight years of war on P" when after eight years of his war on P" when after eight years of his leadership war on P" when after eight years of his leadership there war on P" when after eight years of his leadership there is war on P" when after eight years of his leadership there is now war on P" when after eight years of his leadership there is now so war on P" when after eight years of his leadership there is now so much his leadership there is now so much of his leadership there is now so much of it his leadership there is now so much of it available his leadership there is now so much of it available on his leadership there is now so much of it available on the his leadership there is now so much of it available on the street his leadership there is now so much of it available on the street that of it available on the street that the of it available on the street that the price of it available on the street that the price has of it available on the street that the price has plummeted of it available on the street that the price has plummeted to of it available on the street that the price has plummeted to half of it available on the street that the price has plummeted to half of the price has plummeted to half of what the price has plummeted to half of what it the price has plummeted to half of what it was the price has plummeted to half of what it was when the price has plummeted to half of what it was when he the price has plummeted to half of what it was when he came the price has plummeted to half of what it was when he came to the price has plummeted to half of what it was when he came to office? what it was when he came to office? 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So, these, and they end up in the waterways and the oceans. So, the waterways and the oceans. So, the Ministry waterways and the oceans. So, the Ministry of waterways and the oceans. So, the Ministry of the waterways and the oceans. So, the Ministry of the Environment waterways and the oceans. So, the Ministry of the Environment is Ministry of the Environment is working Ministry of the Environment is working with Ministry of the Environment is working with their Ministry of the Environment is working with their officials Ministry of the Environment is working with their officials and working with their officials and with working with their officials and with Australians working with their officials and with Australians to working with their officials and with Australians to address working with their officials and with Australians to address this with Australians to address this issue. with Australians to address this issue. Thank with Australians to address this issue. Thank you. with Australians to address this issue. Thank you. Is with Australians to address this issue. Thank you. Is the with Australians to address this issue. Thank you. Is the Minister issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we should issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we should just issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we should just give issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we should just give up issue. Thank you. Is the Minister saying we should just give up trying saying we should just give up trying to saying we should just give up trying to protect saying we should just give up trying to protect our saying we should just give up trying to protect our oceans? saying we should just give up trying to protect our oceans? Thank saying we should just give up trying to protect our oceans? Thank you, saying we should just give up trying to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. On to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of the to protect our oceans? Thank you, Mr Speaker. On behalf of the Minister Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of the Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of the Environment, Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of the Environment, of Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of the Environment, of course Speaker. On behalf of the Minister of the Environment, of course not. of the Environment, of course not. And of the Environment, of course not. And that of the Environment, of course not. And that concludes of the Environment, of course not. And that concludes Oral of the Environment, of course not. And that concludes Oral Questions. of the Environment, of course not. And that concludes Oral Questions. I And that concludes Oral Questions. I have And that concludes Oral Questions. I have received And that concludes Oral Questions. I have received a And that concludes Oral Questions. I have received a letter And that concludes Oral Questions. I have received a letter from And that concludes Oral Questions. I have received a letter from Barbara have received a letter from Barbara Stuart have received a letter from Barbara Stuart seeking have received a letter from Barbara Stuart seeking to have received a letter from Barbara Stuart seeking to debate have received a letter from Barbara Stuart seeking to debate under Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Order Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 a Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 a strike Stuart seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 a strike by Standing Order 389 a strike by junior Standing Order 389 a strike by junior doctors Standing Order 389 a strike by junior doctors which Standing Order 389 a strike by junior doctors which commenced junior doctors which commenced today. junior doctors which commenced today. This junior doctors which commenced today. This is junior doctors which commenced today. This is a junior doctors which commenced today. This is a particular junior doctors which commenced today. This is a particular case junior doctors which commenced today. This is a particular case of today. This is a particular case of recent today. This is a particular case of recent occurrence today. This is a particular case of recent occurrence and today. This is a particular case of recent occurrence and there today. This is a particular case of recent occurrence and there is recent occurrence and there is ministerial recent occurrence and there is ministerial responsibility recent occurrence and there is ministerial responsibility for recent occurrence and there is ministerial responsibility for the ministerial responsibility for the delivery ministerial responsibility for the delivery of ministerial responsibility for the delivery of health ministerial responsibility for the delivery of health services ministerial responsibility for the delivery of health services by ministerial responsibility for the delivery of health services by DHBs. delivery of health services by DHBs. The delivery of health services by DHBs. The test delivery of health services by DHBs. The test for delivery of health services by DHBs. The test for whether delivery of health services by DHBs. The test for whether a delivery of health services by DHBs. The test for whether a particular The test for whether a particular case The test for whether a particular case requires The test for whether a particular case requires the The test for whether a particular case requires the immediate case requires the immediate attention case requires the immediate attention of case requires the immediate attention of the case requires the immediate attention of the House case requires the immediate attention of the House is case requires the immediate attention of the House is a case requires the immediate attention of the House is a high attention of the House is a high one. attention of the House is a high one. The attention of the House is a high one. The business attention of the House is a high one. The business of attention of the House is a high one. The business of the attention of the House is a high one. The business of the House one. The business of the House should one. The business of the House should not one. The business of the House should not be one. The business of the House should not be set one. The business of the House should not be set aside one. The business of the House should not be set aside just should not be set aside just lightly. should not be set aside just lightly. There should not be set aside just lightly. There must should not be set aside just lightly. There must be should not be set aside just lightly. There must be an should not be set aside just lightly. There must be an element should not be set aside just lightly. There must be an element of lightly. There must be an element of urgency lightly. There must be an element of urgency for lightly. There must be an element of urgency for the lightly. There must be an element of urgency for the matter lightly. There must be an element of urgency for the matter to lightly. There must be an element of urgency for the matter to take urgency for the matter to take precedent urgency for the matter to take precedent over urgency for the matter to take precedent over other urgency for the matter to take precedent over other business. precedent over other business. Industrial precedent over other business. Industrial action precedent over other business. Industrial action in precedent over other business. Industrial action in itself precedent over other business. Industrial action in itself will precedent over other business. Industrial action in itself will not Industrial action in itself will not necessarily Industrial action in itself will not necessarily mean Industrial action in itself will not necessarily mean the Industrial action in itself will not necessarily mean the granting Industrial action in itself will not necessarily mean the granting of Industrial action in itself will not necessarily mean the granting of an necessarily mean the granting of an urgent necessarily mean the granting of an urgent debate. necessarily mean the granting of an urgent debate. Actions necessarily mean the granting of an urgent debate. Actions taken necessarily mean the granting of an urgent debate. Actions taken to urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate the urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate the effects urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate the effects of urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate the effects of the urgent debate. Actions taken to mitigate the effects of the strike mitigate the effects of the strike will mitigate the effects of the strike will also mitigate the effects of the strike will also be mitigate the effects of the strike will also be considered. mitigate the effects of the strike will also be considered. I mitigate the effects of the strike will also be considered. I am mitigate the effects of the strike will also be considered. I am not will also be considered. I am not convinced will also be considered. I am not convinced that will also be considered. I am not convinced that taking will also be considered. I am not convinced that taking of will also be considered. I am not convinced that taking of industrial convinced that taking of industrial action convinced that taking of industrial action in convinced that taking of industrial action in this convinced that taking of industrial action in this instance convinced that taking of industrial action in this instance warrants convinced that taking of industrial action in this instance warrants the action in this instance warrants the setting action in this instance warrants the setting aside action in this instance warrants the setting aside of action in this instance warrants the setting aside of the action in this instance warrants the setting aside of the business action in this instance warrants the setting aside of the business of action in this instance warrants the setting aside of the business of the setting aside of the business of the House. setting aside of the business of the House. The setting aside of the business of the House. The application setting aside of the business of the House. The application is setting aside of the business of the House. The application is therefore House. The application is therefore declined. I I have I have received I have received a I have received a further I have received a further letter I have received a further letter from I have received a further letter from David I have received a further letter from David Seymour I have received a further letter from David Seymour seeking I have received a further letter from David Seymour seeking to I have received a further letter from David Seymour seeking to debate from David Seymour seeking to debate under from David Seymour seeking to debate under Standing from David Seymour seeking to debate under Standing Order from David Seymour seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 from David Seymour seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the from David Seymour seeking to debate under Standing Order 389 the police under Standing Order 389 the police raids under Standing Order 389 the police raids on under Standing Order 389 the police raids on advocates under Standing Order 389 the police raids on advocates for under Standing Order 389 the police raids on advocates for euthanasia. raids on advocates for euthanasia. This raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is a raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is a particular raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is a particular case raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is a particular case of raids on advocates for euthanasia. This is a particular case of recent This is a particular case of recent occurrence. This is a particular case of recent occurrence. However, This is a particular case of recent occurrence. However, under This is a particular case of recent occurrence. However, under Section occurrence. However, under Section 16 occurrence. However, under Section 16 of occurrence. However, under Section 16 of the occurrence. However, under Section 16 of the Policing occurrence. However, under Section 16 of the Policing Act occurrence. However, under Section 16 of the Policing Act 2008, occurrence. However, under Section 16 of the Policing Act 2008, the 16 of the Policing Act 2008, the Police 16 of the Policing Act 2008, the Police Commissioner 16 of the Policing Act 2008, the Police Commissioner is 16 of the Policing Act 2008, the Police Commissioner is not Police Commissioner is not responsible Police Commissioner is not responsible to, Police Commissioner is not responsible to, and Police Commissioner is not responsible to, and must Police Commissioner is not responsible to, and must act responsible to, and must act independently responsible to, and must act independently of, responsible to, and must act independently of, any responsible to, and must act independently of, any Minister responsible to, and must act independently of, any Minister of independently of, any Minister of the independently of, any Minister of the Crown independently of, any Minister of the Crown regarding independently of, any Minister of the Crown regarding the independently of, any Minister of the Crown regarding the maintenance the Crown regarding the maintenance of the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the enforcement the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the enforcement of the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the enforcement of the the Crown regarding the maintenance of order, the enforcement of the law of order, the enforcement of the law and of order, the enforcement of the law and the of order, the enforcement of the law and the investigation of order, the enforcement of the law and the investigation and and the investigation and prosecution and the investigation and prosecution of and the investigation and prosecution of offences. and the investigation and prosecution of offences. There and the investigation and prosecution of offences. There can prosecution of offences. There can be prosecution of offences. There can be no prosecution of offences. There can be no administrative prosecution of offences. There can be no administrative or prosecution of offences. There can be no administrative or ministerial be no administrative or ministerial responsibility be no administrative or ministerial responsibility of be no administrative or ministerial responsibility of the be no administrative or ministerial responsibility of the Government be no administrative or ministerial responsibility of the Government for responsibility of the Government for the responsibility of the Government for the conduct responsibility of the Government for the conduct of responsibility of the Government for the conduct of police the conduct of police investigations. the conduct of police investigations. The the conduct of police investigations. The House the conduct of police investigations. The House confirmed investigations. The House confirmed that investigations. The House confirmed that by investigations. The House confirmed that by passing investigations. The House confirmed that by passing the investigations. The House confirmed that by passing the Policing investigations. The House confirmed that by passing the Policing Act that by passing the Policing Act 200ile that by passing the Policing Act 200ile 8. that by passing the Policing Act 200ile 8. Since that by passing the Policing Act 200ile 8. Since administrative that by passing the Policing Act 200ile 8. Since administrative or that by passing the Policing Act 200ile 8. Since administrative or -- 200ile 8. Since administrative or -- 2008. 200ile 8. Since administrative or -- 2008. Since 200ile 8. Since administrative or -- 2008. Since administrative 200ile 8. Since administrative or -- 2008. Since administrative or 2008. Since administrative or ministerial 2008. 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Since administrative or ministerial responsibility of the ministerial responsibility of the Government ministerial responsibility of the Government is ministerial responsibility of the Government is a ministerial responsibility of the Government is a prerequisite ministerial responsibility of the Government is a prerequisite for ministerial responsibility of the Government is a prerequisite for the Government is a prerequisite for the holding Government is a prerequisite for the holding of Government is a prerequisite for the holding of an Government is a prerequisite for the holding of an urgent Government is a prerequisite for the holding of an urgent debate, Government is a prerequisite for the holding of an urgent debate, that holding of an urgent debate, that application holding of an urgent debate, that application is holding of an urgent debate, that application is also holding of an urgent debate, that application is also declined. holding of an urgent debate, that application is also declined. I holding of an urgent debate, that application is also declined. I call application is also declined. I call on application is also declined. I call on Government application is also declined. I call on Government Order application is also declined. I call on Government Order of application is also declined. I call on Government Order of the application is also declined. I call on Government Order of the Day application is also declined. I call on Government Order of the Day No. on Government Order of the Day No. 1. on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Outer on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Outer Space on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Outer Space and on Government Order of the Day No. 1. Outer Space and High-altitude 1. Outer Space and High-altitude Activities 1. Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill 1. Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill first 1. Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill first reading. 1. Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill first reading. Mr Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. The Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. The Hon Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. The Hon Steven Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Activities Bill first reading. Mr Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I move Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I move that Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I move that the Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I move that the Outer Speaker. The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, I move that the Outer Space Speaker, I move that the Outer Space and Speaker, I move that the Outer Space and High-altitude Speaker, I move that the Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Speaker, I move that the Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill Speaker, I move that the Outer Space and High-altitude Activities Bill be and High-altitude Activities Bill be now and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a first and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a first time. and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a first time. Mr and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a first time. Mr Speaker, and High-altitude Activities Bill be now read a first time. Mr Speaker, I now read a first time. Mr Speaker, I nominate now read a first time. Mr Speaker, I nominate the now read a first time. Mr Speaker, I nominate the Foreign now read a first time. Mr Speaker, I nominate the Foreign Affairs, nominate the Foreign Affairs, Defence nominate the Foreign Affairs, Defence and nominate the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade nominate the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade select nominate the Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade select committee Defence and Trade select committee to Defence and Trade select committee to consider Defence and Trade select committee to consider this Defence and Trade select committee to consider this bill. Defence and Trade select committee to consider this bill. Mr Defence and Trade select committee to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has been to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has been a to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has been a lot to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has been a lot of to consider this bill. Mr Speaker, this bill has been a lot of work this bill has been a lot of work over this bill has been a lot of work over a this bill has been a lot of work over a short this bill has been a lot of work over a short space this bill has been a lot of work over a short space of this bill has been a lot of work over a short space of time, this bill has been a lot of work over a short space of time, but this bill has been a lot of work over a short space of time, but it over a short space of time, but it is over a short space of time, but it is now over a short space of time, but it is now completely over a short space of time, but it is now completely ready over a short space of time, but it is now completely ready for is now completely ready for lift-off. is now completely ready for lift-off. It is now completely ready for lift-off. It creates is now completely ready for lift-off. It creates a is now completely ready for lift-off. It creates a modern lift-off. It creates a modern regulatory lift-off. It creates a modern regulatory environment lift-off. It creates a modern regulatory environment to lift-off. It creates a modern regulatory environment to enable lift-off. It creates a modern regulatory environment to enable the regulatory environment to enable the development regulatory environment to enable the development of regulatory environment to enable the development of a regulatory environment to enable the development of a space regulatory environment to enable the development of a space industry regulatory environment to enable the development of a space industry in development of a space industry in New development of a space industry in New Zealand development of a space industry in New Zealand and development of a space industry in New Zealand and to development of a space industry in New Zealand and to ensure development of a space industry in New Zealand and to ensure its development of a space industry in New Zealand and to ensure its safe New Zealand and to ensure its safe and New Zealand and to ensure its safe and secure New Zealand and to ensure its safe and secure operation. New Zealand and to ensure its safe and secure operation. 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It will enable New Zealand to meet our New Zealand to meet our international New Zealand to meet our international obligations New Zealand to meet our international obligations relating international obligations relating to international obligations relating to space international obligations relating to space activities international obligations relating to space activities and international obligations relating to space activities and space to space activities and space technology, to space activities and space technology, and to space activities and space technology, and it to space activities and space technology, and it provides to space activities and space technology, and it provides for to space activities and space technology, and it provides for the technology, and it provides for the management technology, and it provides for the management of technology, and it provides for the management of certain technology, and it provides for the management of certain high-altitude management of certain high-altitude activities management of certain high-altitude activities that management of certain high-altitude activities that take management of certain high-altitude activities that take place management of certain high-altitude activities that take place from management of certain high-altitude activities that take place from New activities that take place from New Zealand. activities that take place from New Zealand. 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Satellites enable a range of our daily lives. Satellites enable a range of critical our daily lives. Satellites enable a range of critical services our daily lives. Satellites enable a range of critical services and range of critical services and infrastructure range of critical services and infrastructure that range of critical services and infrastructure that we range of critical services and infrastructure that we use range of critical services and infrastructure that we use every infrastructure that we use every day, infrastructure that we use every day, including infrastructure that we use every day, including banking, day, including banking, telecommunications, day, including banking, telecommunications, internet telecommunications, internet navigation, telecommunications, internet navigation, disaster telecommunications, internet navigation, disaster response telecommunications, internet navigation, disaster response and navigation, disaster response and national navigation, disaster response and national security. navigation, disaster response and national security. Mr navigation, disaster response and national security. Mr Speaker, navigation, disaster response and national security. Mr Speaker, the national security. Mr Speaker, the costs national security. Mr Speaker, the costs of national security. Mr Speaker, the costs of accessing national security. Mr Speaker, the costs of accessing space national security. Mr Speaker, the costs of accessing space are costs of accessing space are falling, costs of accessing space are falling, as costs of accessing space are falling, as the costs of accessing space are falling, as the technology costs of accessing space are falling, as the technology continues falling, as the technology continues to falling, as the technology continues to improve falling, as the technology continues to improve those falling, as the technology continues to improve those costs falling, as the technology continues to improve those costs will falling, as the technology continues to improve those costs will continue to improve those costs will continue to to improve those costs will continue to fall to improve those costs will continue to fall and to improve those costs will continue to fall and the to improve those costs will continue to fall and the quality to improve those costs will continue to fall and the quality of to fall and the quality of spacecraft to fall and the quality of spacecraft and to fall and the quality of spacecraft and satellites to fall and the quality of spacecraft and satellites will spacecraft and satellites will improve. spacecraft and satellites will improve. 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Rocket Lab, a company founded satellite-enabled services. Rocket Lab, a company founded by satellite-enabled services. Rocket Lab, a company founded by New Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Peter Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Peter Beck, Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Peter Beck, is Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Peter Beck, is making Lab, a company founded by New Zealander Peter Beck, is making the Zealander Peter Beck, is making the most Zealander Peter Beck, is making the most of Zealander Peter Beck, is making the most of these Zealander Peter Beck, is making the most of these market Zealander Peter Beck, is making the most of these market opportunities. most of these market opportunities. The most of these market opportunities. The company's most of these market opportunities. The company's mission most of these market opportunities. The company's mission is most of these market opportunities. The company's mission is to most of these market opportunities. The company's mission is to provide The company's mission is to provide a The company's mission is to provide a dedicated, The company's mission is to provide a dedicated, low-cost The company's mission is to provide a dedicated, low-cost and The company's mission is to provide a dedicated, low-cost and frequent a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space launch a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space launch service a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space launch service for a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space launch service for the a dedicated, low-cost and frequent space launch service for the growing space launch service for the growing small-satellite space launch service for the growing small-satellite industry. space launch service for the growing small-satellite industry. New small-satellite industry. New Zealand small-satellite industry. New Zealand has small-satellite industry. New Zealand has certain small-satellite industry. New Zealand has certain advantages small-satellite industry. New Zealand has certain advantages that Zealand has certain advantages that make Zealand has certain advantages that make it Zealand has certain advantages that make it an Zealand has certain advantages that make it an attractive Zealand has certain advantages that make it an attractive location Zealand has certain advantages that make it an attractive location for make it an attractive location for space make it an attractive location for space launches. make it an attractive location for space launches. We make it an attractive location for space launches. We have make it an attractive location for space launches. We have clear make it an attractive location for space launches. We have clear seas space launches. We have clear seas and space launches. We have clear seas and skies, space launches. We have clear seas and skies, access space launches. We have clear seas and skies, access to space launches. We have clear seas and skies, access to valuable space launches. We have clear seas and skies, access to valuable launch and skies, access to valuable launch angles, and skies, access to valuable launch angles, a and skies, access to valuable launch angles, a skilled and skies, access to valuable launch angles, a skilled workforce and skies, access to valuable launch angles, a skilled workforce and and skies, access to valuable launch angles, a skilled workforce and an angles, a skilled workforce and an innovation-friendly angles, a skilled workforce and an innovation-friendly business innovation-friendly business environment. innovation-friendly business environment. These innovation-friendly business environment. These advantages innovation-friendly business environment. These advantages are environment. These advantages are key environment. These advantages are key factors environment. These advantages are key factors behind