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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. 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Under this National-led Government Under this National-led Government there Under this National-led Government publicly-funded Under this National-led Government there has 354 Under this National-led Government there has 354 extra Under this National-led Government there has 354 extra police Under this National-led Government there has 354 extra police in Under this National-led Government there has 354 extra police in the there has 354 extra police in the sense there has 354 extra police in the sense of there has 354 extra police in the sense of technology there has 354 extra police in the sense of technology which there has 354 extra police in the sense of technology which has sense of technology which has allowed sense of technology which has sense sense of technology which has allowed us to sense of technology which has allowed us to do sense of technology which has allowed us to do that. sense of technology which has allowed us to do that. The allowed us to do that. The Government allowed us to do that. The Government is allowed us to do that. The Government is funding allowed us to do that. The Government is funding more allowed us to do that. The Government is funding more for Government is funding more for police Government is funding more for police resources Government is funding more for police resources and Government is funding more for police resources and over Government is funding more for police resources and over time Government is funding more for police resources and over time will police resources and over time will give police resources and over time will give them police resources and over time will give them more. police resources and over time will give them more. But, police resources and over time will give them more. But, I police resources and over time will give them more. But, I don't give them more. But, I don't actually give them more. But, I don't actually accept give them more. But, I don't actually accept the give them more. But, I don't actually accept the argument give them more. But, I don't actually accept the argument that actually accept the argument that the actually accept the argument that the police actually accept the argument that the police are actually accept the argument that the police are under-resourced. actually accept the argument that the police are under-resourced. I the police are under-resourced. I accept the police are under-resourced. I accept the the police are under-resourced. I accept the argument the police are under-resourced. I accept the argument that the police are under-resourced. I accept the argument that over the police are under-resourced. I accept the argument that over time accept the argument that over time they accept the argument that over time they can accept the argument that over time they can do accept the argument that over time they can do with accept the argument that over time they can do with more. accept the argument that over time they can do with more. But accept the argument that over time they can do with more. But they've they can do with more. But they've had they can do with more. But they've had significant they can do with more. But they've had significant increases they can do with more. But they've had significant increases in they can do with more. But they've had significant increases in the had significant increases in the time had significant increases in the time we've had significant increases in the time we've been had significant increases in the time we've been the had significant increases in the time we've been the government. had significant increases in the time we've been the government. Why time we've been the government. Why has time we've been the government. Why has his time we've been the government. Why has his Government time we've been the government. Why has his Government lost time we've been the government. Why has his Government lost control time we've been the government. Why has his Government lost control of has his Government lost control of crime, has his Government lost control of crime, as has his Government lost control of crime, as it has his Government lost control of crime, as it has has his Government lost control of crime, as it has on has his Government lost control of crime, as it has on housing, has his Government lost control of crime, as it has on housing, health, crime, as it has on housing, health, education, crime, as it has on housing, health, education, immigration, crime, as it has on housing, health, education, immigration, traffic education, immigration, traffic congestion, education, immigration, traffic congestion, and education, immigration, traffic congestion, and when education, immigration, traffic congestion, and when will education, immigration, traffic congestion, and when will he education, immigration, traffic congestion, and when will he admit congestion, and when will he admit he congestion, and when will he admit he is congestion, and when will he admit he is out congestion, and when will he admit he is out of congestion, and when will he admit he is out of touchand congestion, and when will he admit he is out of touchand out congestion, and when will he admit he is out of touchand out of congestion, and when will he admit he is out of touchand out of odds? he is out of touchand out of odds? -- he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of ideas? he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of ideas? Mr he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if he is out of touchand out of odds? -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at total -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at total crime -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at total crime in -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at total crime in New -- out of ideas? Mr Speaker, if one looks at total crime in New Zealand looks at total crime in New Zealand since looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, it's looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, it's down looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, it's down 15%. looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, it's down 15%. I looks at total crime in New Zealand since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the last since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the last year since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the last year it's since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the last year it's up since 2011, it's down 15%. I accept in the last year it's up 1.4%. in the last year it's up 1.4%. There's in the last year it's up 1.4%. There's also in the last year it's up 1.4%. There's also been in the last year it's up 1.4%. There's also been an in the last year it's up 1.4%. There's also been an international There's also been an international trend There's also been an international trend - There's also been an international trend - an There's also been an international trend - an international There's also been an international trend - an international trend There's also been an international trend - an international trend Mr trend - an international trend Mr Speaker trend - an international trend Mr Speaker - trend - an international trend Mr Speaker - where trend - an international trend Mr Speaker - where in trend - an international trend Mr Speaker - where in OECD trend - an international trend Mr Speaker - where in OECD countries Speaker - where in OECD countries crime Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone down Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone down a Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone down a bit Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone down a bit and Speaker - where in OECD countries crime has gone down a bit and crime crime has gone down a bit and crime has crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a bit. crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a bit. But, crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a bit. But, overall, crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a bit. But, overall, it crime has gone down a bit and crime has risen a bit. But, overall, it is has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 per has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 per cent, has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 per cent, which has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 per cent, which is has risen a bit. But, overall, it is done 15 per cent, which is actually done 15 per cent, which is actually pretty done 15 per cent, which is actually pretty similar done 15 per cent, which is actually pretty similar to done 15 per cent, which is actually pretty similar to Labour's done 15 per cent, which is actually pretty similar to Labour's polling, pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's pretty similar to Labour's polling, pretty pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's down 15%. pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's down 15%. Question pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's down 15%. Question no. pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's down 15%. Question no. 4, pretty similar to Labour's polling, it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James Shaw. it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James Shaw. Thank it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James Shaw. Thank you, it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr it's down 15%. Question no. 4, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does he Minister: Does he stand Minister: Does he stand by Minister: Does he stand by all Minister: Does he stand by all his Minister: Does he stand by all his statements? Yes. Yes. Supplementary? Yes. Supplementary? Does Yes. Supplementary? Does he Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by his Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by his statement Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by his statement that Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by his statement that "New Yes. Supplementary? Does he stand by his statement that "New Zealanders his statement that "New Zealanders value his statement that "New Zealanders value our his statement that "New Zealanders value our coasts his statement that "New Zealanders value our coasts and his statement that "New Zealanders value our coasts and oceans his statement that "New Zealanders value our coasts and oceans which value our coasts and oceans which are value our coasts and oceans which are an value our coasts and oceans which are an important value our coasts and oceans which are an important part value our coasts and oceans which are an important part of value our coasts and oceans which are an important part of out are an important part of out culture, are an important part of out culture, our are an important part of out culture, our economy are an important part of out culture, our economy and culture, our economy and environment, culture, our economy and environment, and culture, our economy and environment, and we culture, our economy and environment, and we are culture, our economy and environment, and we are committed culture, our economy and environment, and we are committed to environment, and we are committed to managing environment, and we are committed to managing them environment, and we are committed to managing them sustainably." environment, and we are committed to managing them sustainably." Yes. managing them sustainably." Yes. Supplementary managing them sustainably." Yes. Supplementary question. managing them sustainably." Yes. Supplementary question. Does managing them sustainably." Yes. Supplementary question. Does he Supplementary question. Does he believe Supplementary question. Does he believe that Supplementary question. Does he believe that our Supplementary question. Does he believe that our oceans Supplementary question. Does he believe that our oceans are Supplementary question. Does he believe that our oceans are managed believe that our oceans are managed sustainably believe that our oceans are managed sustainably today believe that our oceans are managed sustainably today given believe that our oceans are managed sustainably today given that believe that our oceans are managed sustainably today given that 28% believe that our oceans are managed sustainably today given that 28% of sustainably today given that 28% of our sustainably today given that 28% of our marine sustainably today given that 28% of our marine mammals sustainably today given that 28% of our marine mammals and sustainably today given that 28% of our marine mammals and 90% sustainably today given that 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of sustainably today given that 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of our our marine mammals and 90% of our sea our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds are our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened with sea birds are threatened with extinction? sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, I sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, I think sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one looks extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one looks at extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one looks at overall extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one looks at overall the extinction? Mr Speaker, I think if one looks at overall the management one looks at overall the management of one looks at overall the management of oceans one looks at overall the management of oceans that one looks at overall the management of oceans that are one looks at overall the management of oceans that are under one looks at overall the management of oceans that are under New of oceans that are under New Zealand's of oceans that are under New Zealand's control, of oceans that are under New Zealand's control, I of oceans that are under New Zealand's control, I think of oceans that are under New Zealand's control, I think you of oceans that are under New Zealand's control, I think you would Zealand's control, I think you would say Zealand's control, I think you would say that Zealand's control, I think you would say that they Zealand's control, I think you would say that they are say that they are sustainably-managed. say that they are sustainably-managed. I say that they are sustainably-managed. I think say that they are sustainably-managed. I think the sustainably-managed. I think the quota sustainably-managed. I think the quota management sustainably-managed. I think the quota management system, sustainably-managed. I think the quota management system, by sustainably-managed. I think the quota management system, by and quota management system, by and large, quota management system, by and large, has quota management system, by and large, has actually quota management system, by and large, has actually been quota management system, by and large, has actually been a quota management system, by and large, has actually been a highly large, has actually been a highly effective large, has actually been a highly effective method. large, has actually been a highly effective method. In large, has actually been a highly effective method. In terms large, has actually been a highly effective method. In terms of large, has actually been a highly effective method. In terms of marine effective method. In terms of marine mammals, effective method. In terms of marine mammals, the effective method. In terms of marine mammals, the Government effective method. In terms of marine mammals, the Government has effective method. In terms of marine mammals, the Government has been mammals, the Government has been moving, mammals, the Government has been moving, as mammals, the Government has been moving, as the mammals, the Government has been moving, as the member mammals, the Government has been moving, as the member knows, mammals, the Government has been moving, as the member knows, towards moving, as the member knows, towards putting moving, as the member knows, towards putting more moving, as the member knows, towards putting more of moving, as the member knows, towards putting more of New moving, as the member knows, towards putting more of New Zealand's moving, as the member knows, towards putting more of New Zealand's marine putting more of New Zealand's marine space putting more of New Zealand's marine space into putting more of New Zealand's marine space into ocean putting more of New Zealand's marine space into ocean sanctuaries. putting more of New Zealand's marine space into ocean sanctuaries. Last space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week the space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week the Government space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week the Government was space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week the Government was delighted space into ocean sanctuaries. Last week the Government was delighted by week the Government was delighted by the week the Government was delighted by the steps week the Government was delighted by the steps that week the Government was delighted by the steps that New week the Government was delighted by the steps that New Zealand week the Government was delighted by the steps that New Zealand had week the Government was delighted by the steps that New Zealand had led the steps that New Zealand had led with the steps that New Zealand had led with the the steps that New Zealand had led with the United the steps that New Zealand had led with the United States the steps that New Zealand had led with the United States in the steps that New Zealand had led with the United States in relation with the United States in relation to with the United States in relation to the with the United States in relation to the Ross with the United States in relation to the Ross Sea. with the United States in relation to the Ross Sea. 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New Zealand has also done in the time we've Kermadecs. New Zealand has also done in the time we've been Kermadecs. New Zealand has also done in the time we've been the in the time we've been the Government in the time we've been the Government a in the time we've been the Government a number in the time we've been the Government a number of in the time we've been the Government a number of other in the time we've been the Government a number of other ocean Government a number of other ocean sanctuaries Government a number of other ocean sanctuaries in Government a number of other ocean sanctuaries in relation Government a number of other ocean sanctuaries in relation to Government a number of other ocean sanctuaries in relation to places sanctuaries in relation to places like sanctuaries in relation to places sanctuaries sanctuaries in relation to places like Kaikora. Yes, sanctuaries in relation to places like Kaikora. Yes, the sanctuaries in relation to places like Kaikora. Yes, the the like Kaikora. Yes, the the government like Kaikora. Yes, the the government is like Kaikora. Yes, the the government is moving like Kaikora. Yes, the the government is moving forward like Kaikora. Yes, the the government is moving forward but like Kaikora. Yes, the the government is moving forward but we government is moving forward but we acknowledge government is moving forward but we acknowledge there government is moving forward but we acknowledge there are government is moving forward but we acknowledge there are some acknowledge there are some endangered acknowledge there are some like acknowledge there are some endangered species and acknowledge there are some endangered species and that's acknowledge there are some endangered species and that's why endangered species and that's why we're endangered species and that's why endangered endangered species and that's why we're taking the endangered species and that's why we're taking the steps endangered species and that's why we're taking the steps we endangered species and that's why we're taking the steps we are. endangered species and that's why we're taking the steps we are. Given we're taking the steps we are. Given that, we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would he we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would he say we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would he say that we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would he say that his we're taking the steps we are. Given that, would he say that his policies that, would he say that his policies are that, would he say that his policies are working that, would he say that his policies are working when that, would he say that his policies are working when 28% that, would he say that his policies are working when 28% of that, would he say that his policies are working when 28% of our that, would he say that his policies are working when 28% of our marine are working when 28% of our marine mammals are working when 28% of our marine mammals and are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of our are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of our sea are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds are working when 28% of our marine mammals and 90% of our sea birds are mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened with mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened with extinction? mammals and 90% of our sea birds are threatened with extinction? Mr threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for the threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for the most threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for the most part, threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for the most part, yes, threatened with extinction? Mr Speaker, for the most part, yes, I Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they are Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they are working. Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they are working. But Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they are working. But one Speaker, for the most part, yes, I think they are working. But one of think they are working. But one of the think they are working. But one of the threats think they are working. But one of the threats to think they are working. But one of the threats to our think they are working. But one of the threats to our bird think they are working. But one of the threats to our bird life, think they are working. But one of the threats to our bird life, for the threats to our bird life, for instance, the threats to our bird life, for instance, is the threats to our bird life, for instance, is from the threats to our bird life, for instance, is from predators the threats to our bird life, for instance, is from predators and instance, is from predators and that's instance, is from predators and that's why instance, is from predators and that's why the instance, is from predators and that's why the Government instance, is from predators and that's why the Government has instance, is from predators and that's why the Government has been that's why the Government has been supportive that's why the Government has been supportive of that's why the Government has been supportive of and that's why the Government has been supportive of and has that's why the Government has been supportive of and has the that's why the Government has been supportive of and has the initiative supportive of and has the initiative of supportive of and has the initiative of Predator supportive of and has the initiative of Predator Free supportive of and has the initiative of Predator Free New supportive of and has the initiative of Predator Free New Zealand supportive of and has the initiative of Predator Free New Zealand by of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. Why of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. Why did of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. Why did New of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. Why did New Zealand of Predator Free New Zealand by 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting a 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting a motion 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting a motion at 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting a motion at the 2050. Why did New Zealand abstain from supporting a motion at the IUC from supporting a motion at the IUC in from supporting a motion at the IUC in World from supporting a motion at the IUC in World Conservation from supporting a motion at the IUC in World Conservation Congress from supporting a motion at the IUC in World Conservation Congress to in World Conservation Congress to protect in World Conservation Congress to protect 30% in World Conservation Congress to protect 30% of in World Conservation Congress to protect 30% of oceans in World Conservation Congress to protect 30% of oceans as in World Conservation Congress to protect 30% of oceans as no-take protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine reserves protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine reserves when protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine reserves when 89% protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine reserves when 89% of protect 30% of oceans as no-take marine reserves when 89% of other marine reserves when 89% of other nations marine reserves when 89% of other nations supported marine reserves when 89% of other nations supported it? marine reserves when 89% of other nations supported it? Mr marine reserves when 89% of other nations supported it? Mr Speaker, marine reserves when 89% of other nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need to nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need to get nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need to get absolute nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need to get absolute advice nations supported it? Mr Speaker, I would need to get absolute advice on would need to get absolute advice on that, would need to get absolute advice on that, but would need to get absolute advice on that, but testing would need to get absolute advice on that, but testing my would need to get absolute advice on that, but testing my memory, would need to get absolute advice on that, but testing my memory, it would need to get absolute advice on that, but testing my memory, it was that, but testing my memory, it was partly that, but testing my memory, it was partly to that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do with that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do with the that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do with the fact that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do with the fact that that, but testing my memory, it was partly to do with the fact that we partly to do with the fact that we believe partly to do with the fact that we believe that partly to do with the fact that we believe that the partly to do with the fact that we believe that the way partly to do with the fact that we believe that the way that partly to do with the fact that we believe that the way that we partly to do with the fact that we believe that the way that we measure believe that the way that we measure our believe that the way that we measure our oceans believe that the way that we measure our oceans in believe that the way that we measure our oceans in relation believe that the way that we measure our oceans in relation to believe that the way that we measure our oceans in relation to the believe that the way that we measure our oceans in relation to the quota our oceans in relation to the quota management our oceans in relation to the quota management system, our oceans in relation to the quota management system, with our oceans in relation to the quota management system, with a our oceans in relation to the quota management system, with a measure our oceans in relation to the quota management system, with a measure of management system, with a measure of marine management system, with a measure of marine reserves, management system, with a measure of marine reserves, is management system, with a measure of marine reserves, is a management system, with a measure of marine reserves, is a more management system, with a measure of marine reserves, is a more effective marine reserves, is a more effective way marine reserves, is a more effective way of marine reserves, is a more effective way of doing marine reserves, is a more effective way of doing things. marine reserves, is a more effective way of doing things. I marine reserves, is a more effective way of doing things. I think marine reserves, is a more effective way of doing things. I think the way of doing things. I think the member way of doing things. I think the member will way of doing things. I think the member will probably way of doing things. I think the member will probably find way of doing things. I think the member will probably find that way of doing things. I think the member will probably find that a way of doing things. I think the member will probably find that a lot member will probably find that a lot of member will probably find that a lot of the member will probably find that a lot of the countries member will probably find that a lot of the countries that member will probably find that a lot of the countries that voted member will probably find that a lot of the countries that voted for member will probably find that a lot of the countries that voted for that of the countries that voted for that simply of the countries that voted for that simply don't of the countries that voted for that simply don't have of the countries that voted for that simply don't have the of the countries that voted for that simply don't have the ocean of the countries that voted for that simply don't have the ocean space simply don't have the ocean space that simply don't have the ocean space that New simply don't have the ocean space that New Zealand simply don't have the ocean space that New Zealand does. simply don't have the ocean space that New Zealand does. I simply don't have the ocean space that New Zealand does. I think simply don't have the ocean space that New Zealand does. I think New that New Zealand does. I think New Zealand that New Zealand does. I think New Zealand is that New Zealand does. I think New Zealand is pretty that New Zealand does. I think New Zealand is pretty well that New Zealand does. I think New Zealand is pretty well respected Zealand is pretty well respected internationally Zealand is pretty well respected Zealand Zealand is pretty well respected internationally for the Zealand is pretty well respected internationally for the work Zealand is pretty well respected internationally for the work it Zealand is pretty well respected internationally for the work it does internationally for the work it does around internationally for the work it does around marine internationally for the work it does around marine protection. internationally for the work it does around marine protection. We internationally for the work it does around marine protection. We would around marine protection. We would certainly around marine protection. We would around around marine protection. We would certainly like to around marine protection. We would certainly like to make around marine protection. We would certainly like to make progress around marine protection. We would certainly like to make progress on certainly like to make progress on the certainly like to make progress on the - certainly like to make progress on the - certainly certainly like to make progress on the - certainly like certainly like to make progress on the - certainly like to certainly like to make progress on the - certainly like to make the - certainly like to make progress the - certainly like to make progress on the - certainly like to make progress on the the - certainly like to make progress on the Kermadecs. the - certainly like to make progress on the Kermadecs. We progress on the Kermadecs. We realise progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na the progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na the Green progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na the Green Party progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na the Green Party is progress on the Kermadecs. We realise na the Green Party is -- realise na the Green Party is -- that realise na the Green Party is -- that the realise na the Green Party is -- that the Green realise na the Green Party is -- that the Green Party realise na the Green Party is -- that the Green Party is realise na the Green Party is -- that the Green Party is supportive that the Green Party is supportive of that the Green Party is supportive of that. that the Green Party is supportive of that. If that the Green Party is supportive of that. If they that the Green Party is supportive of that. If they would that the Green Party is supportive of that. If they would like that the Green Party is supportive of that. 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If they would like to go and talk to the nice people at TOCUM and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and get and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and get them and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and get them to and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and get them to see and talk to the nice people at TOCUM about that and get them to see the about that and get them to see the Green about that and get them to see the Green Party's about that and get them to see the Green Party's way, about that and get them to see the Green Party's way, we'll about that and get them to see the Green Party's way, we'll get about that and get them to see the Green Party's way, we'll get to about that and get them to see the Green Party's way, we'll get to pass Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that rapidly Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that rapidly chru Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that rapidly chru -- Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that rapidly chru -- through Green Party's way, we'll get to pass that rapidly chru -- through the that rapidly chru -- through the Parliament. that rapidly chru -- through the Parliament. 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As I said, if we could make himself busy to advance the Kermadecs. 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Did be able to pass this legislation very soon. Did Cabinet be able to pass this legislation very soon. Did Cabinet reject be able to pass this legislation very soon. Did Cabinet reject the very soon. Did Cabinet reject the proposal very soon. Did Cabinet reject the proposal to very soon. Did Cabinet reject the proposal to extend very soon. Did Cabinet reject the proposal to extend marine very soon. Did Cabinet reject the proposal to extend marine protected proposal to extend marine protected areas proposal to extend marine protected areas into proposal to extend marine protected areas into the proposal to extend marine protected areas into the Exclusive proposal to extend marine protected areas into the Exclusive Economic areas into the Exclusive Economic Zone areas into the Exclusive Economic Zone because areas into the Exclusive Economic Zone because ministers areas into the Exclusive Economic Zone because ministers wanted areas into the Exclusive Economic Zone because ministers wanted to Zone because ministers wanted to keep Zone because ministers wanted to keep our Zone because ministers wanted to keep our ocean Zone because ministers wanted to keep our ocean open Zone because ministers wanted to keep our ocean open for Zone because ministers wanted to keep our ocean open for oil keep our ocean open for oil exploration keep our ocean open for oil exploration and keep our ocean open for oil exploration and seabed keep our ocean open for oil exploration and seabed mining? keep our ocean open for oil exploration and seabed mining? Mr exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, no. exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, no. Question exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, no. Question no. exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, no. Question no. 5, exploration and seabed mining? Mr Speaker, no. Question no. 5, Ian Speaker, no. Question no. 5, Ian McCall Speaker, no. Question no. 5, Ian McCall vi. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: Can Health: Can he Health: Can he confirm Health: Can he confirm that Health: Can he confirm that 30 Health: Can he confirm that 30 percent Health: Can he confirm that 30 percent more Can he confirm that 30 percent more hip Can he confirm that 30 percent more hip and Can he confirm that 30 percent more hip and knee Can he confirm that 30 percent more hip and knee joint Can he confirm that 30 percent more hip and knee joint replacement hip and knee joint replacement operations hip and knee joint replacement operations were hip and knee joint replacement operations were carried operations were carried out operations were carried out in operations were carried out in 2015/16 operations were carried out in 2015/16 compared operations were carried out in 2015/16 compared with operations were carried out in 2015/16 compared with the out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 in out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 in 2007/08, out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 in 2007/08, an out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 in 2007/08, an increase out in 2015/16 compared with the 8,439 in 2007/08, an increase of 8,439 in 2007/08, an increase of 2,573 8,439 in 2007/08, an increase of 2,573 operations? Yes, Yes, I Yes, I can. Yes, I can. This Yes, I can. This 30% Yes, I can. This 30% increase Yes, I can. This 30% increase is Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result of Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result of the Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result of the hardwork Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result of the hardwork of Yes, I can. This 30% increase is the result of the hardwork of clinical result of the hardwork of clinical staff result of the hardwork of clinical staff and result of the hardwork of clinical staff and the result of the hardwork of clinical staff and the extra result of the hardwork of clinical staff and the extra $200 result of the hardwork of clinical staff and the extra $200 million result of the hardwork of clinical staff and the extra $200 million the staff and the extra $200 million the Government staff and the extra $200 million the Government has staff and the extra $200 million the Government has invested staff and the extra $200 million the Government has invested into Government has invested into elective Government has invested into staff Government has invested into elective surgery over Government has invested into elective surgery over this Government has invested into elective surgery over this period. elective surgery over this period. It elective surgery over this period. It is elective surgery over this period. It is a elective surgery over this period. It is a very elective surgery over this period. It is a very significant elective surgery over this period. It is a very significant increase elective surgery over this period. It is a very significant increase in It is a very significant increase in access It is a very significant increase in access to It is a very significant increase in access to these It is a very significant increase in access to these important It is a very significant increase in access to these important operations access to these important operations that access to these important operations that reduce access to these important operations that reduce pain access to these important operations that reduce pain and access to these important operations that reduce pain and enable access to these important operations that reduce pain and enable New that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders to that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders to better that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders to better get that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders to better get on that reduce pain and enable New Zealanders to better get on with Zealanders to better get on with their Zealanders to better get on with their lives. Zealanders to better get on with their lives. With Zealanders to better get on with their lives. With the Zealanders to better get on with their lives. With the growth Zealanders to better get on with their lives. With the growth and their lives. With the growth and ageing their lives. With the growth and ageing of their lives. With the growth and ageing of the their lives. With the growth and ageing of the population their lives. With the growth and ageing of the population we their lives. With the growth and ageing of the population we need their lives. With the growth and ageing of the population we need to ageing of the population we need to continue ageing of the population we need to continue to ageing of the population we need to continue to do ageing of the population we need to continue to do more, ageing of the population we need to continue to do more, and ageing of the population we need to continue to do more, and that ageing of the population we need to continue to do more, and that is ageing of the population we need to continue to do more, and that is why continue to do more, and that is why the continue to do more, and that is why the Government continue to do more, and that is why the Government has continue to do more, and that is why the Government has put continue to do more, and that is why the Government has put in continue to do more, and that is why the Government has put in an continue to do more, and that is why the Government has put in an extra the Government has put in an extra $96 the Government has put in an extra $96 million the Government has put in an extra $96 million over the Government has put in an extra $96 million over four the Government has put in an extra $96 million over four years the Government has put in an extra $96 million over four years to $96 million over four years to ensure $96 million over four years to ensure that $96 million over four years to ensure that more $96 million over four years to ensure that more New $96 million over four years to ensure that more New Zealanders $96 million over four years to ensure that more New Zealanders get ensure that more New Zealanders get the ensure that more New Zealanders get the surgery ensure that more New Zealanders get the surgery that ensure that more New Zealanders get the surgery that they ensure that more New Zealanders get the surgery that they need. ensure that more New Zealanders get the surgery that they need. Given the surgery that they need. Given the the surgery that they need. Given the forecast the surgery that they need. Given the forecast ageing the surgery that they need. Given the forecast ageing and the surgery that they need. Given the forecast ageing and growth the surgery that they need. Given the forecast ageing and growth of the forecast ageing and growth of the the forecast ageing and growth of the New the forecast ageing and growth of the New Zealand the forecast ageing and growth of the New Zealand population, the forecast ageing and growth of the New Zealand population, what the forecast ageing and growth of the New Zealand population, what is the New Zealand population, what is the the New Zealand population, what is the Government the New Zealand population, what is the Government doing the New Zealand population, what is the Government doing to the Government doing to significantly the Government doing to significantly address the Government doing to significantly address this the Government doing to significantly address this growing significantly address this growing need? significantly address this growing need? Firstly, significantly address this growing need? Firstly, we're significantly address this growing need? Firstly, we're delivering significantly address this growing need? Firstly, we're delivering more need? Firstly, we're delivering more access need? Firstly, we're delivering more access to need? Firstly, we're delivering more access to specialist need? Firstly, we're delivering more access to specialist assessments need? Firstly, we're delivering more access to specialist assessments in access to specialist assessments in the access to specialist assessments in access access to specialist assessments in the area of access to specialist assessments in the area of orthopaedics access to specialist assessments in the area of orthopaedics where access to specialist assessments in the area of orthopaedics where the the area of orthopaedics where the number the area of orthopaedics where the number of the area of orthopaedics where the number of first the area of orthopaedics where the number of first specialist number of first specialist appointments number of first specialist appointments has number of first specialist appointments has gone number of first specialist appointments has gone up number of first specialist appointments has gone up from number of first specialist appointments has gone up from 43,251 appointments has gone up from 43,251 per appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to 53 appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to 53 through appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to 53 through 627 appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to 53 through 627 -- appointments has gone up from 43,251 per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an increase per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an increase of per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an increase of over per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an increase of over 10,000 per year to 53 through 627 -- 53,627 - an increase of over 10,000 under - an increase of over 10,000 under this - an increase of over 10,000 under this Government. - an increase of over 10,000 under this Government. These - an increase of over 10,000 under this Government. These are - an increase of over 10,000 under this Government. These are some - an increase of over 10,000 under this Government. These are some of this Government. These are some of the this Government. These are some of the 550,000 this Government. These are some of the 550,000 patients this Government. These are some of the 550,000 patients seen this Government. These are some of the 550,000 patients seen by the 550,000 patients seen by specialists the 550,000 patients seen by specialists now the 550,000 patients seen by specialists now each the 550,000 patients seen by specialists now each year, the 550,000 patients seen by specialists now each year, 1-in-10 specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders every specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders every year. specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders every year. We specialists now each year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders every year. We are New Zealanders every year. We are focused New Zealanders every year. We are focused on New Zealanders every year. We are focused on intervening New Zealanders every year. We are focused on intervening an New Zealanders every year. We are focused on intervening an at New Zealanders every year. We are focused on intervening an at an focused on intervening an at an earlier focused on intervening an at an earlier stage focused on intervening an at an earlier stage to focused on intervening an at an earlier stage to prevent focused on intervening an at an earlier stage to prevent the focused on intervening an at an earlier stage to prevent the need earlier stage to prevent the need for earlier stage to prevent the need for surgery earlier stage to prevent the need for surgery in earlier stage to prevent the need for surgery in the earlier stage to prevent the need for surgery in the first earlier stage to prevent the need for surgery in the first place. for surgery in the first place. That's for surgery in the first place. That's why for surgery in the first place. That's why we've for surgery in the first place. That's why we've developed for surgery in the first place. That's why we've developed moent That's why we've developed moent access That's why we've developed moent access teams That's why we've developed moent access teams made That's why we've developed moent access teams made up That's why we've developed moent access teams made up of That's why we've developed moent access teams made up of GPs, access teams made up of GPs, dietitians access teams made up of GPs, dietitians and access teams made up of GPs, dietitians and physiotherapies access teams made up of GPs, dietitians and physiotherapies and dietitians and physiotherapies and are dietitians and physiotherapies and are rolling dietitians and physiotherapies and are rolling them dietitians and physiotherapies and are rolling them across dietitians and physiotherapies and are rolling them across the dietitians and physiotherapies and are rolling them across the country are rolling them across the country to are rolling them across the country to help are rolling them across the country to help New are rolling them across the country to help New Zealanders are rolling them across the country to help New Zealanders with are rolling them across the country to help New Zealanders with pain to help New Zealanders with pain management. to help New Zealanders with pain management. Supplementary to help New Zealanders with pain management. Supplementary question, management. Supplementary question, Annette management. Supplementary question, management. management. Supplementary question, Annette King. Is management. Supplementary question, Annette King. Is he management. Supplementary question, Annette King. Is he dismissing Annette King. Is he dismissing research Annette King. Is he dismissing research published Annette King. Is he dismissing research published in Annette King. Is he dismissing research published in the Annette King. Is he dismissing research published in the New research published in the New Zealand research published in the New Zealand Medical research published in the New Zealand Medical Journal research published in the New Zealand Medical Journal in research published in the New Zealand Medical Journal in September Zealand Medical Journal in September which Zealand Medical Journal in September which show Zealand Medical Journal in September which show it Zealand Medical Journal in September which show it is Zealand Medical Journal in September which show it is rate Zealand Medical Journal in September which show it is rate of Zealand Medical Journal in September which show it is rate of hip which show it is rate of hip surgeries which show it is rate of hip surgeries per which show it is rate of hip surgeries per rate which show it is rate of hip surgeries per rate of which show it is rate of hip surgeries per rate of population which show it is rate of hip surgeries per rate of population was surgeries per rate of population was lower surgeries per rate of population was lower in surgeries per rate of population was lower in 2013 surgeries per rate of population was lower in 2013 than surgeries per rate of population was lower in 2013 than in surgeries per rate of population was lower in 2013 than in 2007, surgeries per rate of population was lower in 2013 than in 2007, and lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this a lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this a truer lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this a truer measure lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this a truer measure of lower in 2013 than in 2007, and isn't this a truer measure of what's isn't this a truer measure of what's happening isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in New isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in New Zealand? isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in New Zealand? No, isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in New Zealand? No, it isn't this a truer measure of what's happening in New Zealand? No, it is happening in New Zealand? No, it is not happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a truer happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a truer measure happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a truer measure of happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a truer measure of the happening in New Zealand? No, it is not a truer measure of the overall not a truer measure of the overall picture. not a truer measure of the overall picture. As not a truer measure of the overall picture. As I've not a truer measure of the overall picture. As I've said, not a truer measure of the overall picture. As I've said, the not a truer measure of the overall picture. As I've said, the number not a truer measure of the overall picture. As I've said, the number of picture. As I've said, the number of operations picture. As I've said, the number of operations are picture. As I've said, the number of operations are going picture. As I've said, the number of operations are going up picture. As I've said, the number of operations are going up overall picture. As I've said, the number of operations are going up overall and operations are going up overall and more operations are going up overall and more New operations are going up overall and more New Zealanders operations are going up overall and more New Zealanders are operations are going up overall and more New Zealanders are getting more New Zealanders are getting timing more New Zealanders are getting timing access more New Zealanders are getting timing access to more New Zealanders are getting timing access to these more New Zealanders are getting timing access to these operations timing access to these operations all timing access to these operations all the timing access to these operations all the time. timing access to these operations all the time. Point timing access to these operations all the time. Point of timing access to these operations all the time. Point of order. all the time. Point of order. Annette all the time. Point of order. Annette King. all the time. Point of order. Annette King. Mr all the time. Point of order. Annette King. Mr Speaker, all the time. Point of order. Annette King. Mr Speaker, I all the time. Point of order. Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table the Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table the New Annette King. Mr Speaker, I seek leave to table the New Zealand leave to table the New Zealand Medical leave to table the New Zealand Medical Journal leave to table the New Zealand Medical Journal research leave to table the New Zealand Medical Journal research headed Medical Journal research headed Equity Medical Journal research headed Equity Of Medical Journal research headed Equity Of Publicly-funded Medical Journal research headed Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip Medical Journal research headed Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Equity Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Joints. It Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Joints. It is Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Joints. It is not Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Joints. It is not easy Equity Of Publicly-funded Hip And Knee Joints. It is not easy to Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Leave Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Leave is Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Leave is sought Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Leave is sought to Knee Joints. It is not easy to obtain. Leave is sought to table obtain. Leave is sought to table that obtain. Leave is sought to table that particular obtain. Leave is sought to table that particular document. obtain. Leave is sought to table that particular document. Any that particular document. Any objection that particular document. Any objection to that particular document. Any objection to it that particular document. Any objection to it being that particular document. Any objection to it being tabled? that particular document. Any objection to it being tabled? There objection to it being tabled? There is objection to it being tabled? There is none. objection to it being tabled? There is none. It objection to it being tabled? There is none. It can objection to it being tabled? There is none. It can tabled. objection to it being tabled? There is none. It can tabled. Can objection to it being tabled? There is none. It can tabled. Can he is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm the is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm the total is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm the total number is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm the total number of is none. It can tabled. Can he confirm the total number of elective confirm the total number of elective surgery confirm the total number of elective surgery orthopaedic confirm the total number of elective surgery orthopaedic operations confirm the total number of elective surgery orthopaedic operations in surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was only surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was only 204 surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was only 204 and surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was only 204 and does surgery orthopaedic operations in 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep up 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep up with 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep up with population 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep up with population growth 2015-2016 was only 204 and does this keep up with population growth let keep up with population growth let alone keep up with population growth let alone the keep up with population growth let alone the pain keep up with population growth let alone the pain and keep up with population growth let alone the pain and disability keep up with population growth let alone the pain and disability level alone the pain and disability level people alone the pain and disability level people foundation? alone the pain and disability level people foundation? As alone the pain and disability level people foundation? As usual, alone the pain and disability level people foundation? As usual, Mr people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would have people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would have to people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would have to go people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would have to go away people foundation? As usual, Mr Speaker, I would have to go away and Speaker, I would have to go away and check Speaker, I would have to go away and check the Speaker, I would have to go away and check the member's Speaker, I would have to go away and check the member's figures Speaker, I would have to go away and check the member's figures closely. check the member's figures closely. All check the member's figures closely. All I check the member's figures closely. All I do check the member's figures closely. All I do know check the member's figures closely. All I do know is check the member's figures closely. All I do know is it check the member's figures closely. All I do know is it is check the member's figures closely. All I do know is it is nothing check the member's figures closely. All I do know is it is nothing like All I do know is it is nothing like the All I do know is it is nothing like the 2,000 All I do know is it is nothing like the 2,000 drop All I do know is it is nothing like the 2,000 drop in All I do know is it is nothing like the 2,000 drop in operations All I do know is it is nothing like the 2,000 drop in operations that the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred during the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred during her the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred during her period the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred during her period as the 2,000 drop in operations that occurred during her period as Health occurred during her period as Health Minister. occurred during her period as Health Minister. Point occurred during her period as Health Minister. Point of occurred during her period as Health Minister. Point of order, occurred during her period as Health Minister. Point of order, Mr Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. I Minister. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. I seek Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to table Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to table an Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to table an OIA Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to table an OIA from Speaker? Point of order. I seek leave to table an OIA from the leave to table an OIA from the Ministry leave to table an OIA from the Ministry of leave to table an OIA from the Ministry of Health leave to table an OIA from the Ministry of Health dated leave to table an OIA from the Ministry of Health dated 8 leave to table an OIA from the Ministry of Health dated 8 September Ministry of Health dated 8 September showing Ministry of Health dated 8 September showing elective Ministry of Health dated 8 September showing elective surgeries showing elective surgeries discharges, showing elective surgeries showing showing elective surgeries discharges, 284, as showing elective surgeries discharges, 284, as I showing elective surgeries discharges, 284, as I said. showing elective surgeries discharges, 284, as I said. The discharges, 284, as I said. The document discharges, 284, as I said. The document has discharges, 284, as I said. The document has been discharges, 284, as I said. 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I leave to table something else? What's the other document? I wish leave to table something else? What's the other document? I wish to What's the other document? I wish to table What's the other document? I wish to table the What's the other document? I wish to table the 2008-2009 What's the other document? 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Leave is sought to table Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA report Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA report and Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA report and a Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA report and a Ministry Mr Speaker. Leave is sought to table an OIA report and a Ministry of an OIA report and a Ministry of Health an OIA report and a Ministry of Health data an OIA report and a Ministry of Health data information. an OIA report and a Ministry of Health data information. Any Health data information. Any objection Health data information. Any objection to Health data information. Any objection to either Health data information. Any objection to either of Health data information. Any objection to either of those Health data information. Any objection to either of those two objection to either of those two documents objection to either of those two documents being objection to either of those two documents being tabled? objection to either of those two documents being tabled? There objection to either of those two documents being tabled? There is documents being tabled? There is none. documents being tabled? There is none. They documents being tabled? There is none. They can documents being tabled? There is none. They can can documents being tabled? There is none. They can can be documents being tabled? There is none. They can can be tabled. none. They can can be tabled. Question none. They can can be tabled. Question no. none. They can can be tabled. Question no. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: Health: What Health: What action, Health: What action, if Health: What action, if any, Health: What action, if any, has Health: What action, if any, has he What action, if any, has he taken What action, if any, has he taken to What action, if any, has he taken to ensure What action, if any, has he taken to ensure that What action, if any, has he taken to ensure that New What action, if any, has he taken to ensure that New Zealanders taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive services taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive services in taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive services in a taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive services in a timely taken to ensure that New Zealanders receive services in a timely manner? 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The a $4.2 billion funding increase. The latest a $4.2 billion funding increase. The latest example a $4.2 billion funding increase. The latest example is a $4.2 billion funding increase. The latest example is the a $4.2 billion funding increase. The latest example is the National a $4.2 billion funding increase. 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Today advice and support by phone, text and online channels. Today I advice and support by phone, text and online channels. Today I visited and online channels. Today I visited the and online channels. Today I visited the service and online channels. Today I visited the service to and online channels. Today I visited the service to mark and online channels. Today I visited the service to mark its and online channels. Today I visited the service to mark its first the service to mark its first anniversary. the service to mark its first anniversary. The the service to mark its first anniversary. The service, the service to mark its first anniversary. The service, staffed the service to mark its first anniversary. The service, staffed by anniversary. The service, staffed by registered anniversary. The service, staffed by registered nurses, anniversary. The service, staffed by registered nurses, mental anniversary. The service, staffed by registered nurses, mental health anniversary. The service, staffed by registered nurses, mental health and registered nurses, mental health and addiction registered nurses, mental health and addiction specialists registered nurses, mental health and addiction specialists and registered nurses, mental health and addiction specialists and poison addiction specialists and poison specialists addiction specialists and poison specialists provides addiction specialists and poison specialists provides 24/7 addiction specialists and poison specialists provides 24/7 advice, specialists provides 24/7 advice, support, specialists provides 24/7 advice, support, assessment specialists provides 24/7 advice, support, assessment of specialists provides 24/7 advice, support, assessment of symptoms, support, assessment of symptoms, triage support, assessment of symptoms, triage and support, assessment of symptoms, triage and treatment support, assessment of symptoms, triage and treatment advice. support, assessment of symptoms, triage and treatment advice. During triage and treatment advice. During this triage and treatment advice. During this first triage and treatment advice. During this first year, triage and treatment advice. During this first year, 1-in-10 triage and treatment advice. During this first year, 1-in-10 New this first year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders this first year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders have this first year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders have accessed this first year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders have accessed the this first year, 1-in-10 New Zealanders have accessed the service Zealanders have accessed the service and Zealanders have accessed the service and usage Zealanders have accessed the service and usage grew Zealanders have accessed the service and usage grew 16% Zealanders have accessed the service and usage grew 16% between Zealanders have accessed the service and usage grew 16% between November and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and September and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and September 2016. and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and September 2016. It's and usage grew 16% between November 2015 and September 2016. It's an 2015 and September 2016. It's an innovative 2015 and September 2016. It's an innovative solution 2015 and September 2016. It's an innovative solution which 2015 and September 2016. It's an innovative solution which is innovative solution which is producing innovative solution which is Zealanders innovative solution which is producing results. Why innovative solution which is producing results. Why has innovative solution which is producing results. Why has he producing results. Why has he allowed producing results. Why has he allowed 30 producing results. Why has he allowed 30 patients producing results. Why has he allowed 30 patients to producing results. Why has he allowed 30 patients to have producing results. Why has he allowed 30 patients to have their allowed 30 patients to have their eyesight allowed 30 patients to have their eyesight worsen allowed 30 patients to have their eyesight worsen because allowed 30 patients to have their eyesight worsen because of eyesight worsen because of significant eyesight worsen because of producing eyesight worsen because of significant delays in eyesight worsen because of significant delays in eye eyesight worsen because of significant delays in eye treatment significant delays in eye treatment at significant delays in eye treatment at southern significant delays in eye treatment at southern DBH significant delays in eye treatment at southern DBH with significant delays in eye treatment at southern DBH with the significant delays in eye treatment at southern DBH with the majority significant delays in eye treatment at southern DBH with the majority of at southern DBH with the majority of nearly at southern DBH with the majority of nearly 5,000 at southern DBH with the majority of nearly 5,000 patients at southern DBH with the majority of nearly 5,000 patients waiting at southern DBH with the majority of nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as long nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as long for nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as long for an nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as long for an appointment nearly 5,000 patients waiting twice as long for an appointment than as long for an appointment than clinically as long for an appointment than clinically recommended? as long for an appointment than clinically recommended? Well, as long for an appointment than clinically recommended? Well, Mr clinically recommended? Well, Mr Speaker, clinically recommended? Well, Mr Speaker, the clinically recommended? Well, Mr Speaker, the situation clinically recommended? Well, Mr Speaker, the situation that clinically recommended? Well, Mr Speaker, the situation that Southern Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH has Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH has not Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH has not been Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH has not been satisfactory. Speaker, the situation that Southern DBH has not been satisfactory. We DBH has not been satisfactory. We got DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a new DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a new Chief DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a new Chief Executive DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a new Chief Executive there DBH has not been satisfactory. We got a new Chief Executive there who got a new Chief Executive there who has got a new Chief Executive there who has a got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan in got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan in place got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan in place to got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan in place to turn got a new Chief Executive there who has a plan in place to turn the has a plan in place to turn the situation has a plan in place to turn the situation around. has a plan in place to turn the situation around. The has a plan in place to turn the situation around. The reality has a plan in place to turn the situation around. The reality with situation around. The reality with on situation around. The reality with on thatmology situation around. The reality with on thatmology is situation around. The reality with on thatmology is we're situation around. The reality with on thatmology is we're doing situation around. The reality with on thatmology is we're doing 25% on thatmology is we're doing 25% more on thatmology is we're doing 25% more appointments on thatmology is we're doing 25% more appointments and on thatmology is we're doing 25% more appointments and operations more appointments and operations then more appointments and operations situation more appointments and operations then when we more appointments and operations then when we came more appointments and operations then when we came into more appointments and operations then when we came into Government then when we came into Government but then when we came into Government but the then when we came into Government but the wider then when we came into Government but the wider picture then when we came into Government but the wider picture is then when we came into Government but the wider picture is we then when we came into Government but the wider picture is we can then when we came into Government but the wider picture is we can now but the wider picture is we can now do but the wider picture is we can now do more but the wider picture is we can now do more with but the wider picture is we can now do more with the but the wider picture is we can now do more with the advanced but the wider picture is we can now do more with the advanced treatment do more with the advanced treatment and do more with the advanced treatment and technology. do more with the advanced treatment and technology. 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If you look at glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in those glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in those types glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in those types of glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in those types of injections glaucoma, there's been 100% uplift in those types of injections over in those types of injections over the in those types of injections over the past in those types of injections over the past five in those types of injections over the past five years. in those types of injections over the past five years. Why in those types of injections over the past five years. Why was in those types of injections over the past five years. Why was he in those types of injections over the past five years. Why was he not the past five years. Why was he not on the past five years. Why was he not on top the past five years. Why was he not on top of the past five years. Why was he not on top of the the past five years. Why was he not on top of the fact the past five years. Why was he not on top of the fact that the past five years. Why was he not on top of the fact that the the past five years. Why was he not on top of the fact that the adverse on top of the fact that the adverse event on top of the fact that the adverse event report on top of the fact that the adverse event report from on top of the fact that the adverse event report from Southern on top of the fact that the adverse event report from Southern DBH on top of the fact that the adverse event report from Southern DBH for event report from Southern DBH for 2014/15 event report from Southern DBH for 2014/15 published event report from Southern DBH for 2014/15 published last event report from Southern DBH for 2014/15 published last year event report from Southern DBH for 2014/15 published last year was 2014/15 published last year was showing 2014/15 published last year was showing a 2014/15 published last year was showing a lack 2014/15 published last year was showing a lack of 2014/15 published last year was showing a lack of service 2014/15 published last year was showing a lack of service planning, showing a lack of service planning, not showing a lack of service planning, not enough showing a lack of service planning, not enough appointments showing a lack of service planning, not enough appointments available not enough appointments available and not enough appointments available 2014/15 not enough appointments available and patients waiting not enough appointments available and patients waiting well not enough appointments available and patients waiting well beyond not enough appointments available and patients waiting well beyond the and patients waiting well beyond the Government's and patients waiting well beyond the Government's expectation and patients waiting well beyond the Government's expectation for Government's expectation for service? 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Well, as the member is well aware, we had get involved in aware, we had get involved in Southern, aware, we had get involved in Southern, we aware, we had get involved in Southern, we removed aware, we had get involved in Southern, we removed the aware, we had get involved in Southern, we removed the DBH aware, we had get involved in Southern, we removed the DBH and aware, we had get involved in Southern, we removed the DBH and we Southern, we removed the DBH and we put Southern, we removed the DBH and we put the Southern, we removed the DBH and we put the Commissioner Southern, we removed the DBH and we put the Commissioner in Southern, we removed the DBH and we put the Commissioner in there. Southern, we removed the DBH and we put the Commissioner in there. We put the Commissioner in there. We were put the Commissioner in there. We were left put the Commissioner in there. We were left with put the Commissioner in there. We were left with massive put the Commissioner in there. We were left with massive deficit put the Commissioner in there. We were left with massive deficit there were left with massive deficit there is. were left with massive deficit there is. $42 were left with massive deficit there is. $42 million were left with massive deficit there is. $42 million last were left with massive deficit there is. $42 million last year. were left with massive deficit there is. $42 million last year. Now were left with massive deficit there is. $42 million last year. Now come is. $42 million last year. Now come down is. $42 million last year. Now come down to is. $42 million last year. Now come down to 35 is. $42 million last year. Now come down to 35 million is. $42 million last year. Now come down to 35 million with is. $42 million last year. Now come down to 35 million with an is. $42 million last year. 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The fact is this clinical priorisation tool, this clinical priorisation tool, it's this clinical priorisation tool, it's just this clinical priorisation tool, it's just been this clinical priorisation tool, it's just been finished this clinical priorisation tool, it's just been finished and this clinical priorisation tool, it's just been finished and it's it's just been finished and it's about it's just been finished and it's about to it's just been finished and it's about to be it's just been finished and it's about to be implemented it's just been finished and it's about to be implemented across it's just been finished and it's about to be implemented across the about to be implemented across the country. about to be implemented across the country. There's about to be implemented across the country. There's also about to be implemented across the country. There's also been about to be implemented across the country. There's also been financial country. 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But the overall picture is there's extra 4 billion in health, there's extra 4 billion in health, there's there's extra 4 billion in health, there's more there's extra 4 billion in health, there's more operations there's extra 4 billion in health, there's more operations and there's extra 4 billion in health, there's more operations and poims there's more operations and poims and there's more operations and poims and doctors there's more operations and poims and doctors ard there's more operations and poims and doctors ard nurses. there's more operations and poims and doctors ard nurses. People there's more operations and poims and doctors ard nurses. People are and doctors ard nurses. People are getting and doctors ard nurses. People are getting more and doctors ard nurses. People are getting more timely and doctors ard nurses. People are getting more timely access and doctors ard nurses. People are getting more timely access so and doctors ard nurses. People are getting more timely access so the getting more timely access so the member getting more timely access so the member just getting more timely access so the member just needs getting more timely access so the member just needs to getting more timely access so the member just needs to cheer getting more timely access so the member just needs to cheer up. getting more timely access so the member just needs to cheer up. Point member just needs to cheer up. Point of member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. I member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. I seek member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. I seek leave member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. I seek leave to member just needs to cheer up. Point of order. I seek leave to table... of order. I seek leave to table... Coloured. of order. I seek leave to table... Coloured. Point of order. I seek leave to table... Coloured. Point of of order. 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Does the Minister believe any participation Minister believe any participation in Minister believe any participation in early Minister believe any participation in early childhood Minister believe any participation in early childhood education Minister believe any participation in early childhood education as in early childhood education as described in early childhood education as described in in early childhood education as described in the in early childhood education as described in the Better in early childhood education as described in the Better Public described in the Better Public Service described in the Better Public Service target described in the Better Public Service target is described in the Better Public Service target is a described in the Better Public Service target is a substitute described in the Better Public Service target is a substitute for Service target is a substitute for guaranteed Service target is a substitute for guaranteed quality Service target is a substitute for guaranteed quality in Service target is a substitute for guaranteed quality in early guaranteed quality in early childhood guaranteed quality in early described guaranteed quality in early childhood education? 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Will they are delivering quality. Will this they are delivering quality. Will this establish they are delivering quality. Will this establish a they are delivering quality. Will this establish a target they are delivering quality. Will this establish a target for this establish a target for achieving this establish a target for achieving safe this establish a target for achieving safe child-to-adult this establish a target for achieving safe child-to-adult ratios achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and a achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and a goal achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and a goal of achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and a goal of 100% achieving safe child-to-adult ratios and a goal of 100% qualified and a goal of 100% qualified teachers and a goal of 100% qualified teachers in and a goal of 100% qualified teachers in early and a goal of 100% qualified teachers in early childhood teachers in early childhood education teachers in early childhood this teachers in early childhood education to ensure teachers in early childhood education to ensure quality? teachers in early childhood education to ensure quality? Mr education to ensure quality? 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Will number of qualified ECE teachers than ever before. Will the number of qualified ECE teachers than ever before. Will the Minister than ever before. Will the Minister stop than ever before. Will the Minister stop the than ever before. Will the Minister stop the effective than ever before. Will the Minister stop the effective funding than ever before. Will the Minister stop the effective funding freeze than ever before. Will the Minister stop the effective funding freeze in stop the effective funding freeze in early stop the effective funding freeze in early childhood stop the effective funding freeze in early childhood which stop the effective funding freeze in early childhood which only stop the effective funding freeze in early childhood which only funds early childhood which only funds role-growth early childhood which only funds role-growth and early childhood which only funds role-growth and has early childhood which only funds role-growth and has seen early childhood which only funds role-growth and has seen no early childhood which only funds role-growth and has seen no increase role-growth and has seen no increase in role-growth and has seen no increase in per-child role-growth and has seen no increase in per-child funding role-growth and has seen no increase in per-child funding since role-growth and has seen no increase in per-child funding since 2010? role-growth and has seen no increase in per-child funding since 2010? 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Mr Speaker, this Government is more Speaker, this Government is more than Speaker, this Government is more than doubled Speaker, this Government is more than doubled the Speaker, this Government is more than doubled the spending Speaker, this Government is more than doubled the spending in Speaker, this Government is more than doubled the spending in early than doubled the spending in early learning than doubled the spending in early learning to than doubled the spending in early learning to $1.79 than doubled the spending in early learning to $1.79 billion than doubled the spending in early learning to $1.79 billion from than doubled the spending in early learning to $1.79 billion from less learning to $1.79 billion from less than learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. 9 learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. 9 billion learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. 9 billion when learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. 9 billion when when learning to $1.79 billion from less than $0. 9 billion when when came than $0. 9 billion when when came into than $0. 9 billion when when came into Government. than $0. 9 billion when when came into Government. 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This year's budget has also provided an extra 7$96.9 has also provided an extra 7$96.9 million has also provided an extra 7$96.9 million -- has also provided an extra 7$96.9 million -- 3$96.9 has also provided an extra 7$96.9 million -- 3$96.9 million has also provided an extra 7$96.9 million -- 3$96.9 million which million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts for million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts for 54 million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts for 54 million million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts for 54 million extra million -- 3$96.9 million which accounts for 54 million extra hours accounts for 54 million extra hours for accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE for accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE for children. accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE for children. ECE accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE for children. ECE is accounts for 54 million extra hours for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable than for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable than it for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable than it was for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable than it was in for ECE for children. ECE is 33.5% more affordable than it was in 2007, more affordable than it was in 2007, and more affordable than it was in 2007, and on more affordable than it was in 2007, and on average, more affordable than it was in 2007, and on average, for more affordable than it was in 2007, and on average, for every more affordable than it was in 2007, and on average, for every dollar and on average, for every dollar parents and on average, for every dollar parents pay and on average, for every dollar parents pay for and on average, for every dollar parents pay for early and on average, for every dollar parents pay for early learning, and on average, for every dollar parents pay for early learning, the parents pay for early learning, the Government parents pay for early learning, the Government contributes parents pay for early learning, the Government contributes roughly Government contributes roughly $4.80. Government contributes roughly $4.80. Question Government contributes roughly $4.80. Question No. Government contributes roughly $4.80. Question No. 8. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Building My question is to the Minister for Building and My question is to the Minister for Building and Housing: Building and Housing: Can Building and Housing: Can he Building and Housing: Can he confirm Building and Housing: Can he confirm the Building and Housing: Can he confirm the latest Building and Housing: Can he confirm the latest reports Building and Housing: Can he confirm the latest reports on Can he confirm the latest reports on building Can he confirm the latest reports on building activity Can he confirm the latest reports on building activity in Can he confirm the latest reports on building activity in Auckland Can he confirm the latest reports on building activity in Auckland show building activity in Auckland show an building activity in Auckland show an increase building activity in Auckland show an increase from building activity in Auckland show an increase from $5.3 building activity in Auckland show an increase from $5.3 billion building activity in Auckland show an increase from $5.3 billion to an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion over an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion over the an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion over the last an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion over the last year, an increase from $5.3 billion to $7.2 billion over the last year, or $7.2 billion over the last year, or 36 $7.2 billion over the last year, or 36 percent? 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What additional steps is the What additional steps is the government What additional steps is the government taking What additional steps is the government taking to What additional steps is the government taking to address What additional steps is the government taking to address the government taking to address the long-term government taking to address the long-term causes government taking to address the long-term causes of government taking to address the long-term causes of insufficient long-term causes of insufficient supply long-term causes of insufficient supply of long-term causes of insufficient supply of housing long-term causes of insufficient supply of housing and long-term causes of insufficient supply of housing and the long-term causes of insufficient supply of housing and the resulting supply of housing and the resulting high supply of housing and the resulting high price? supply of housing and the resulting high price? 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Its significant in respect to house prices is that all respect to house prices is that all these respect to house prices is that all these substantive respect to house prices is that all these substantive analysis respect to house prices is that all these substantive analysis shows these substantive analysis shows that these substantive analysis shows that it's these substantive analysis shows that it's the these substantive analysis shows that it's the price these substantive analysis shows that it's the price of these substantive analysis shows that it's the price of the these substantive analysis shows that it's the price of the land these substantive analysis shows that it's the price of the land that that it's the price of the land that is that it's the price of the land that is at that it's the price of the land that is at the that it's the price of the land that is at the core that it's the price of the land that is at the core of that it's the price of the land that is at the core of housing is at the core of housing unaffordability is at the core of housing unaffordability and is at the core of housing unaffordability and the is at the core of housing unaffordability and the council unaffordability and the council policy unaffordability and the council respect unaffordability and the council policy to restrict unaffordability and the council policy to restrict land unaffordability and the council policy to restrict land supply unaffordability and the council policy to restrict land supply has policy to restrict land supply has severely policy to restrict land supply has severely impacted policy to restrict land supply has severely impacted on policy to restrict land supply has severely impacted on housing policy to restrict land supply has severely impacted on housing costs severely impacted on housing costs while severely impacted on housing costs while benefiting severely impacted on housing costs while benefiting existing severely impacted on housing costs while benefiting existing home while benefiting existing home owners while benefiting existing home owners and while benefiting existing home owners and providing while benefiting existing home owners and providing massive while benefiting existing home owners and providing massive gains owners and providing massive gains to owners and providing massive gains to those owners and providing massive gains to those owning owners and providing massive gains to those owning land owners and providing massive gains to those owning land inside owners and providing massive gains to those owning land inside the to those owning land inside the artificially-prescribed to those owning land inside the artificially-prescribed urban artificially-prescribed urban boundaries. artificially-prescribed urban boundaries. 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Is the Minister concerned given the rapid growth in concerned given the rapid growth in building concerned given the rapid growth in building activity concerned given the rapid growth in building activity about concerned given the rapid growth in building activity about the concerned given the rapid growth in building activity about the quality building activity about the quality of building activity about the quality of building building activity about the quality of building work building activity about the quality of building work and building activity about the quality of building work and materials building activity about the quality of building work and materials - building activity about the quality of building work and materials - and of building work and materials - and if of building work and materials - and if so, of building work and materials - and if so, what of building work and materials - and if so, what steps of building work and materials - and if so, what steps is of building work and materials - and if so, what steps is he of building work and materials - and if so, what steps is he taking of building work and materials - and if so, what steps is he taking that if so, what steps is he taking that both if so, what steps is he taking that both New if so, what steps is he taking that both New Zealanders if so, what steps is he taking that both New Zealanders get if so, what steps is he taking that both New Zealanders get quality if so, what steps is he taking that both New Zealanders get quality and both New Zealanders get quality and quantity? both New Zealanders get quality and quantity? 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But in saying actually that they should increase their dividends. But in any increase their dividends. But in any event, increase their dividends. But in any event, successive increase their dividends. 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What are the total losses suffered What are the total losses suffered by What are the total losses suffered by shareholders What are the total losses suffered by shareholders and What are the total losses suffered by shareholders and lenders What are the total losses suffered by shareholders and lenders to What are the total losses suffered by shareholders and lenders to Solid by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy to by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy to the by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy to the nearest by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy to the nearest $100 by shareholders and lenders to Solid Energy to the nearest $100 million? Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Mr Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Mr Speaker, Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Mr Speaker, on Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf Energy to the nearest $100 million? Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of Energy to the nearest $100 million? 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I in the company of many, many, many international coal companies. I have international coal companies. I have to international coal companies. I have to hand international coal companies. I have to hand for international coal companies. I have to hand for example... international coal companies. I have to hand for example... Order! international coal companies. I have to hand for example... Order! I to hand for example... Order! I apologise to hand for example... Order! I apologise - to hand for example... Order! I apologise - and to hand for example... Order! I apologise - and I to hand for example... Order! I apologise - and I appreciate to hand for example... Order! 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Mr Speaker, I know that the Minister is answering on behalf raised. 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I am was given him time then to expand on that. I am the was given him time then to expand on that. I am the sole was given him time then to expand on that. I am the sole judge was given him time then to expand on that. I am the sole judge as was given him time then to expand on that. I am the sole judge as to was given him time then to expand on that. I am the sole judge as to the that. I am the sole judge as to the length that. I am the sole judge as to the length of that. I am the sole judge as to the length of the that. I am the sole judge as to the length of the answer, that. I am the sole judge as to the length of the answer, not that. I am the sole judge as to the length of the answer, not the that. 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Does the Minister dissatisfied with the answer he's been given. Does the Minister wish been given. Does the Minister wish to been given. Does the Minister wish to complete been given. Does the Minister wish to complete his been given. Does the Minister wish to complete his answer? been given. Does the Minister wish to complete his answer? Mr been given. Does the Minister wish to complete his answer? Mr Speaker, to complete his answer? Mr Speaker, yes. to complete his answer? Mr Speaker, yes. <INTERRUPTION> yes. <INTERRUPTION> Order! yes. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Iain yes. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, yes. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last warning Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last warning I'll Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last warning I'll give Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last warning I'll give you. Order! Iain Lees-Galloway, that's the last warning I'll give you. Mr the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, as the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, as I the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, as I was the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, as I was pointing the last warning I'll give you. Mr Speaker, as I was pointing out the last warning I'll give you. 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Order! value since the collapse in coal prices. Order! Supplementary prices. Order! Supplementary question, prices. Order! Supplementary prices. prices. Order! Supplementary question, the Hon prices. Order! Supplementary question, the Hon David prices. Order! Supplementary question, the Hon David Parker. question, the Hon David Parker. Which question, the Hon David Parker. Which has question, the Hon David Parker. Which has been question, the Hon David Parker. Which has been the question, the Hon David Parker. Which has been the greater question, the Hon David Parker. Which has been the greater example Which has been the greater example of Which has been the greater example of mismanagement Which has been the greater example of mismanagement by Which has been the greater example of mismanagement by his Which has been the greater example of mismanagement by his Government Which has been the greater example of mismanagement by his Government - of mismanagement by his Government - driving of mismanagement by his Government - driving Solid of mismanagement by his Government - driving Solid Energy of mismanagement by his Government - driving Solid Energy into of mismanagement by his Government - driving Solid Energy into the of mismanagement by his Government - driving Solid Energy into the ground driving Solid Energy into the ground losing driving Solid Energy into the ground losing over driving Solid Energy into the ground losing over a driving Solid Energy into the ground losing over a billion driving Solid Energy into the ground losing over a billion dollars driving Solid Energy into the ground losing over a billion dollars in losing over a billion dollars in value, losing over a billion dollars in value, the losing over a billion dollars in value, the fire losing over a billion dollars in value, the fire sale losing over a billion dollars in value, the fire sale of losing over a billion dollars in value, the fire sale of the losing over a billion dollars in value, the fire sale of the power value, the fire sale of the power company value, the fire sale of the power company shares, value, the fire sale of the power company shares, billions value, the fire sale of the power company shares, billions of value, the fire sale of the power company shares, billions of dollars company shares, billions of dollars below company shares, billions of dollars below current company shares, billions of dollars below current values company shares, billions of dollars below current values - company shares, billions of dollars below current values - bungling company shares, billions of dollars below current values - bungling the below current values - bungling the finance below current values - bungling the finance company below current values - bungling the finance company guarantee below current values - bungling the finance company guarantee costing finance company guarantee costing hundreds finance company guarantee costing hundreds of finance company guarantee costing hundreds of millions finance company guarantee costing hundreds of millions of finance company guarantee costing hundreds of millions of dollars hundreds of millions of dollars extra hundreds of millions of dollars extra - hundreds of millions of dollars extra - or hundreds of millions of dollars extra - or freezing hundreds of millions of dollars extra - or freezing the extra - or freezing the contributions extra - or freezing the contributions to extra - or freezing the contributions to the extra - or freezing the contributions to the Callum extra - or freezing the contributions to the Callum Fund contributions to the Callum Fund costing contributions to the Callum Fund costing $10 contributions to the Callum Fund costing $10 billion contributions to the Callum Fund costing $10 billion of contributions to the Callum Fund costing $10 billion of losses? costing $10 billion of losses? Order! costing $10 billion of losses? Order! Well, costing $10 billion of losses? Order! Well, Mr costing $10 billion of losses? Order! Well, Mr Speaker, costing $10 billion of losses? Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on costing $10 billion of losses? Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for SOE, Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for SOE, the Order! Well, Mr Speaker, on behalf of the Minister for SOE, the member of the Minister for SOE, the member is of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably still of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably still sad of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably still sad by of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably still sad by losing of the Minister for SOE, the member is probably still sad by losing that is probably still sad by losing that 2008 is probably still sad by losing that 2008 election. is probably still sad by losing that 2008 election. Mr is probably still sad by losing that 2008 election. Mr Speaker, is probably still sad by losing that 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this Government 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this Government stands 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this Government stands by 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this Government stands by its 2008 election. Mr Speaker, this Government stands by its very 2008 election. 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