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Amen. I I have I have much I have much pleasure I have much pleasure in I have much pleasure in informing I have much pleasure in informing the I have much pleasure in informing the House in informing the House that in informing the House that the in informing the House that the Honourable in informing the House that the Honourable John in informing the House that the Honourable John Howard, that the Honourable John Howard, former that the Honourable John Howard, former PM that the Honourable John Howard, former PM of that the Honourable John Howard, former PM of Australia, former PM of Australia, is former PM of Australia, is within former PM of Australia, is within the former PM of Australia, is within the precincts is within the precincts of is within the precincts of this is within the precincts of this Chamber. of this Chamber. I of this Chamber. I am of this Chamber. I am sure of this Chamber. I am sure members of this Chamber. I am sure members would of this Chamber. 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The House comes to Oral Questions, question no. 1. Point of Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Mr Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Mr Speaker? James Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. Questions, question no. 1. Point of order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I speak order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I speak leave order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I speak leave to order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I speak leave to introdunes order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. I speak leave to introdunes a order, Mr Speaker? James Shaw. 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Question no. 1, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr objection. Question no. 1, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Climate My question is to the Minister for Climate Change My question is to the Minister for Climate Change Issues: Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she stand Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she stand by Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she stand by her Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she stand by her statement Minister for Climate Change Issues: Does she stand by her statement that Does she stand by her statement that "we Does she stand by her statement that "we have Does she stand by her statement that "we have an Does she stand by her statement that "we have an ambitious Does she stand by her statement that "we have an ambitious programme "we have an ambitious programme of "we have an ambitious programme of work "we have an ambitious programme of work that "we have an ambitious programme of work that is "we have an ambitious programme of work that is going "we have an ambitious programme of work that is going on of work that is going on around of work that is going on around climate of work that is going on around climate change of work that is going on around climate change issues"? The The Honourable The Honourable Paula The Honourable Paula Bennett. The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, yes, The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, yes, I The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, yes, I do. The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, The Honourable Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Supplementary Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Supplementary question. Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Supplementary question. Why Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Supplementary question. Why has Speaker, oh, yes, I do. Oh, yes. Supplementary question. Why has she Supplementary question. Why has she said Supplementary question. Why has she said publicly Supplementary question. Why has she said publicly that Supplementary question. Why has she said publicly that her Supplementary question. Why has she said publicly that her climate said publicly that her climate change said publicly that her climate change programme said publicly that her climate change programme is said publicly that her climate change programme is ambitious said publicly that her climate change programme is ambitious when, change programme is ambitious when, privately, change programme is ambitious when, privately, officials change programme is ambitious when, privately, officials have change programme is ambitious when, privately, officials have told change programme is ambitious when, privately, officials have told her privately, officials have told her that privately, officials have told her that it privately, officials have told her that it won't privately, officials have told her that it won't deal privately, officials have told her that it won't deal with privately, officials have told her that it won't deal with 85% privately, officials have told her that it won't deal with 85% of privately, officials have told her that it won't deal with 85% of the that it won't deal with 85% of the climate that it won't deal with 85% of the climate pollution that it won't deal with 85% of the climate pollution that that it won't deal with 85% of the climate pollution that she that it won't deal with 85% of the climate pollution that she has climate pollution that she has promised climate pollution that she has climate climate pollution that she has promised to cut? climate pollution that she has promised to cut? 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Supplementary it better for future generations. Supplementary question, it better for future generations. Supplementary question, David Supplementary question, David Seymour. Supplementary question, David Seymour. Is Supplementary question, David Seymour. Is the Supplementary question, David Seymour. Is the Minister Supplementary question, David Seymour. Is the Minister aware Supplementary question, David Seymour. Is the Minister aware that Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not one Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not one single Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not one single Green Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not one single Green Party Seymour. Is the Minister aware that not one single Green Party member not one single Green Party member attended not one single Green Party member attended the not one single Green Party member attended the exexcellent not one single Green Party member attended the exexcellent forum not one single Green Party member attended the exexcellent forum last attended the exexcellent forum last night? attended the exexcellent forum last night? Order, attended the exexcellent forum last night? Order, there attended the exexcellent forum last night? Order, there is attended the exexcellent forum last night? Order, there is no night? Order, there is no ministerial night? Order, there is no ministerial responsibility night? Order, there is no ministerial responsibility there. ministerial responsibility there. Point ministerial responsibility there. Point of ministerial responsibility there. Point of order. ministerial responsibility there. Point of order. Mr ministerial responsibility there. Point of order. Mr Speaker... ministerial responsibility there. Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, ministerial responsibility there. Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want to Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want to warn Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want to warn the Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want to warn the member, Point of order. Mr Speaker... No, I just want to warn the member, I Point of order. Mr Speaker... 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Will the minister admit that this projected failure to. Oh, maybe not. Will the minister admit that this projected failure to admit that this projected failure to meet admit that this projected failure to meet the admit that this projected failure to meet the target admit that this projected failure to meet the target is admit that this projected failure to meet the target is evidence admit that this projected failure to meet the target is evidence that meet the target is evidence that failing meet the target is evidence that failing to meet the target is evidence that failing to plan meet the target is evidence that failing to plan is meet the target is evidence that failing to plan is planning meet the target is evidence that failing to plan is planning to meet the target is evidence that failing to plan is planning to fail failing to plan is planning to fail and failing to plan is planning to fail and accept failing to plan is planning to fail and accept is failing to plan is planning to fail and accept is need failing to plan is planning to fail and accept is need for failing to plan is planning to fail and accept is need for formalised and accept is need for formalised carbon and accept is need for formalised failing and accept is need for formalised carbon budgeting? No. and accept is need for formalised carbon budgeting? No. Question and accept is need for formalised carbon budgeting? No. Question no. carbon budgeting? No. Question no. 2, carbon budgeting? No. Question no. 2, Andrew carbon budgeting? No. Question no. 2, Andrew Little. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Prime Minister: Why Prime Minister: Why was Prime Minister: Why was there Prime Minister: Why was there no Prime Minister: Why was there no mention Why was there no mention of Why was there no mention of the Why was there no mention of the housing Why was there no mention of the housing crisis of the housing crisis in of the housing crisis in his of the housing crisis in his State of the housing crisis in his State of of the housing crisis in his State of the of the housing crisis in his State of the Nation of the housing crisis in his State of the Nation speech in his State of the Nation speech last in his State of the Nation speech last week? The The Righthan The Righthan PM. The Righthan PM. Mr The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt Hon The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt Hon PM. The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt Hon PM. I The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt Hon PM. I did The Righthan PM. Mr Speaker, I did -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. I -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. I said -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. I said the -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. I said the government -- The Rt Hon PM. I did mention housing. I said the government is housing. I said the government is building housing. I said the government is building the housing. I said the government is building the roads, housing. I said the government is building the roads, houses housing. I said the government is building the roads, houses needed housing. I said the government is building the roads, houses needed to building the roads, houses needed to support building the roads, houses needed to support our building the roads, houses needed to support our growing building the roads, houses needed to support our growing communities. building the roads, houses needed to support our growing communities. We support our growing communities. We will support our growing communities. We will continue support our growing communities. We will continue this support our growing communities. We will continue this year support our growing communities. We will continue this year with support our growing communities. We will continue this year with our will continue this year with our comprehensive will continue this year with our comprehensive plan will continue this year with our comprehensive plan to will continue this year with our comprehensive plan to increase will continue this year with our comprehensive plan to increase the comprehensive plan to increase the supply comprehensive plan to increase the supply of comprehensive plan to increase the supply of housing comprehensive plan to increase the supply of housing and, comprehensive plan to increase the supply of housing and, in supply of housing and, in particular, supply of housing and, in particular, working supply of housing and, in particular, working closely supply of housing and, in particular, working closely with supply of housing and, in particular, working closely with the particular, working closely with the councils, particular, working closely with the particular, particular, working closely with the councils, who make particular, working closely with the councils, who make all particular, working closely with the councils, who make all the particular, working closely with the councils, who make all the decisions councils, who make all the decisions relevant councils, who make all the decisions relevant to councils, who make all the decisions relevant to getting councils, who make all the decisions relevant to getting - councils, who make all the decisions relevant to getting - almost councils, who make all the decisions relevant to getting - almost all councils, who make all the decisions relevant to getting - almost all of relevant to getting - almost all of the relevant to getting - almost all of the decisions relevant to getting - almost all of the decisions - relevant to getting - almost all of the decisions - house relevant to getting - almost all of the decisions - house or relevant to getting - almost all of the decisions - house or subdivision the decisions - house or subdivision consented. the decisions - house or subdivision consented. Supplementary the decisions - house or subdivision consented. Supplementary question, consented. Supplementary question, Andrew consented. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. consented. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Is consented. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Is it consented. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Is it seriously consented. Supplementary question, Andrew Little. Is it seriously his Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position that Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position that there Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position that there is Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position that there is no Andrew Little. Is it seriously his position that there is no housing position that there is no housing crisis? position that there is no housing crisis? The position that there is no housing crisis? The Rt position that there is no housing crisis? The Rt Hon position that there is no housing crisis? The Rt Hon PM. position that there is no housing crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr position that there is no housing crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government's crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government's position, crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government's position, for crisis? The Rt Hon PM. Mr Speaker, the Government's position, for some the Government's position, for some time, the Government's position, for some time, has the Government's position, for some time, has been the Government's position, for some time, has been that the Government's position, for some time, has been that the the Government's position, for some time, has been that the answer the Government's position, for some time, has been that the answer to time, has been that the answer to fast-rising time, has been that the answer to fast-rising house time, has been that the answer to fast-rising house prices time, has been that the answer to fast-rising house prices is time, has been that the answer to fast-rising house prices is to time, has been that the answer to fast-rising house prices is to get fast-rising house prices is to get more fast-rising house prices is to get more houses fast-rising house prices is to get more houses on fast-rising house prices is to get more houses on the fast-rising house prices is to get more houses on the ground fast-rising house prices is to get more houses on the ground faster. more houses on the ground faster. And more houses on the ground faster. And the more houses on the ground faster. And the biggest more houses on the ground faster. And the biggest step more houses on the ground faster. And the biggest step forward more houses on the ground faster. And the biggest step forward was more houses on the ground faster. And the biggest step forward was the And the biggest step forward was the New And the biggest step forward was the New Auckland And the biggest step forward was the New Auckland Unitary And the biggest step forward was the New Auckland Unitary Plan, And the biggest step forward was the New Auckland Unitary Plan, which New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this Government New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this Government legislated New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this Government legislated to New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this Government legislated to do New Auckland Unitary Plan, which this Government legislated to do in this Government legislated to do in three this Government legislated to do in three years this Government legislated to do in three years instead this Government legislated to do in three years instead of this Government legislated to do in three years instead of 10, this Government legislated to do in three years instead of 10, and this Government legislated to do in three years instead of 10, and that, three years instead of 10, and that, finally, three years instead of 10, and that, finally, as three years instead of 10, and that, finally, as of three years instead of 10, and that, finally, as of about three years instead of 10, and that, finally, as of about September three years instead of 10, and that, finally, as of about September last finally, as of about September last year, finally, as of about September last year, enables finally, as of about September last year, enables sufficient finally, as of about September last year, enables sufficient supply finally, as of about September last year, enables sufficient supply to year, enables sufficient supply to be year, enables sufficient supply to be built year, enables sufficient supply to be built and year, enables sufficient supply to be built and the year, enables sufficient supply to be built and the market, year, enables sufficient supply to be built and the market, and year, enables sufficient supply to be built and the market, and the be built and the market, and the government, be built and the market, and the government, is be built and the market, and the government, is getting be built and the market, and the government, is getting on be built and the market, and the government, is getting on with government, is getting on with building government, is getting on with building it. government, is getting on with building it. 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Why can't he admit there is a housing crisis when there is a housing crisis when demographia there is a housing crisis when demographia relates there is a housing crisis when demographia relates Auckland there is a housing crisis when demographia relates Auckland was there is a housing crisis when demographia relates Auckland was the demographia relates Auckland was the fout-most demographia relates Auckland was the demographia demographia relates Auckland was the fout-most unaffordable housing fout-most unaffordable housing market fout-most unaffordable housing market in fout-most unaffordable housing market in the fout-most unaffordable housing market in the world? fout-most unaffordable housing market in the world? The fout-most unaffordable housing market in the world? The reason fout-most unaffordable housing market in the world? The reason for market in the world? The reason for that market in the world? The reason for that is market in the world? 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And money for a house, what they need is more houses. And the money for a house, what they need is more houses. And the good money for a house, what they need is more houses. And the good news money for a house, what they need is more houses. And the good news is, more houses. And the good news is, the more houses. And the good news is, the good more houses. And the good news is, the good news more houses. And the good news is, the good news is, more houses. And the good news is, the good news is, we more houses. And the good news is, the good news is, we have more houses. And the good news is, the good news is, we have now more houses. And the good news is, the good news is, we have now record the good news is, we have now record numbers the good news is, we have now record numbers of the good news is, we have now record numbers of housing the good news is, we have now record numbers of housing being the good news is, we have now record numbers of housing being built the good news is, we have now record numbers of housing being built and numbers of housing being built and the numbers of housing being built and the pipeline numbers of housing being built and the pipeline for numbers of housing being built and the pipeline for housing numbers of housing being built and the pipeline for housing and the pipeline for housing and infrastructure the pipeline for housing and the the pipeline for housing and infrastructure building over the pipeline for housing and infrastructure building over the infrastructure building over the next infrastructure building over the next four infrastructure building over the next four or infrastructure building over the next four or five infrastructure building over the next four or five years infrastructure building over the next four or five years is infrastructure building over the next four or five years is bigger next four or five years is bigger than next four or five years is bigger than New next four or five years is bigger than New Zealand next four or five years is bigger than New Zealand has next four or five years is bigger than New Zealand has seen next four or five years is bigger than New Zealand has seen for than New Zealand has seen for decades. 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As sees the Government's building programme unfold this year. As the programme unfold this year. As the owners programme unfold this year. As the owners of programme unfold this year. As the owners of one programme unfold this year. As the owners of one in programme unfold this year. As the owners of one in every programme unfold this year. As the owners of one in every 16 programme unfold this year. As the owners of one in every 16 houses programme unfold this year. 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I appreciate you're the trainspotter of the Opposition made, Grant. I appreciate you're the trainspotter of the Opposition but trainspotter of the Opposition but that's trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where we trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where we are trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where we are at. trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where we are at. Yes, trainspotter of the Opposition but that's where we are at. Yes, can't that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to it. that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to it. Is that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to it. Is the that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to it. Is the New that's where we are at. Yes, can't stick to it. Is the New Zealand stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super Fund stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super Fund correct stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super Fund correct when stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super Fund correct when it stick to it. Is the New Zealand Super Fund correct when it says stick to it. 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But, the Super Fund, of suggestions. But, the Super Fund, of course, suggestions. But, the Super Fund, of course, doesn't suggestions. But, the Super Fund, of course, doesn't exist suggestions. But, the Super Fund, of course, doesn't exist in suggestions. But, the Super Fund, of course, doesn't exist in isolation course, doesn't exist in isolation and, course, doesn't exist in isolation course, course, doesn't exist in isolation and, in fact, course, doesn't exist in isolation and, in fact, New course, doesn't exist in isolation and, in fact, New Zealand course, doesn't exist in isolation and, in fact, New Zealand had course, doesn't exist in isolation and, in fact, New Zealand had a and, in fact, New Zealand had a thing and, in fact, New Zealand had a thing called and, in fact, New Zealand had a thing called the and, in fact, New Zealand had a thing called the Global and, in fact, New Zealand had a thing called the Global Financial thing called the Global Financial Crisis. thing called the Global Financial Crisis. And, thing called the Global Financial Crisis. And, also, thing called the Global Financial Crisis. And, also, another thing called the Global Financial Crisis. And, also, another thing Crisis. And, also, another thing called Crisis. And, also, another thing called the Crisis. And, also, another thing called the 'Canterbury Crisis. And, also, another thing called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. Those called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. Those things called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. Those things all called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. Those things all had called the 'Canterbury earthquakes', Grant. Those things all had an Grant. Those things all had an impact Grant. Those things all had an impact on Grant. Those things all had an impact on the Grant. Those things all had an impact on the Government's Grant. Those things all had an impact on the Government's accounts. impact on the Government's accounts. The impact on the Government's accounts. impact impact on the Government's accounts. The Government, therefore, impact on the Government's accounts. The Government, therefore, made impact on the Government's accounts. The Government, therefore, made a The Government, therefore, made a decision The Government, therefore, made a decision to The Government, therefore, made a decision to focus The Government, therefore, made a decision to focus more The Government, therefore, made a decision to focus more on The Government, therefore, made a decision to focus more on the The Government, therefore, made a decision to focus more on the here decision to focus more on the here and decision to focus more on the here and now decision to focus more on the here and now for decision to focus more on the here and now for that decision to focus more on the here and now for that period decision to focus more on the here and now for that period than decision to focus more on the here and now for that period than on decision to focus more on the here and now for that period than on the and now for that period than on the Super and now for that period than on the Super Fund. and now for that period than on the Super Fund. And and now for that period than on the Super Fund. And I and now for that period than on the Super Fund. And I think and now for that period than on the Super Fund. And I think that and now for that period than on the Super Fund. And I think that the Super Fund. And I think that the people Super Fund. And I think that the people of Super Fund. And I think that the people of Canterbury, Super Fund. And I think that the people of Canterbury, and Super Fund. And I think that the people of Canterbury, and also people of Canterbury, and also vulnerable people of Canterbury, and also people people of Canterbury, and also vulnerable people around people of Canterbury, and also vulnerable people around New vulnerable people around New Zealand, vulnerable people around New people vulnerable people around New Zealand, are pleased vulnerable people around New Zealand, are pleased for vulnerable people around New Zealand, are pleased for that Zealand, are pleased for that decision. Supplementary Supplementary question, Supplementary question, Grant Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Are Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Are tax Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Are tax cuts Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Are tax cuts a Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher priority Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher priority for Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher priority for him Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher priority for him than Robertson. Are tax cuts a higher priority for him than restarting priority for him than restarting contributions priority for him than restarting contributions to priority for him than restarting contributions to the priority for him than restarting contributions to the super priority for him than restarting contributions to the super fund? priority for him than restarting contributions to the super fund? The contributions to the super fund? The Hon contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven Joyce. contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no contributions to the super fund? The Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not a Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not a higher Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not a higher priority. Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not a higher priority. But Hon Steven Joyce. Mr Speaker, no - they're not a higher priority. But I they're not a higher priority. But I do they're not a higher priority. But I do consider they're not a higher priority. But I do consider it they're not a higher priority. 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I this government does focus on them. I appreciate this government does focus on them. I appreciate Grant this government does focus on them. I appreciate Grant Robertson this government does focus on them. I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he can I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he can always I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he can always spend I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he can always spend their I appreciate Grant Robertson thinks he can always spend their money he can always spend their money better he can always spend their money better than he can always spend their money better than they he can always spend their money better than they can. he can always spend their money better than they can. We he can always spend their money better than they can. We don't. better than they can. We don't. Supplementary, better than they can. We don't. Supplementary, Mr better than they can. We don't. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. better than they can. We don't. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. Order! Supplementary, Mr Speaker. Order! Supplementary Supplementary, Mr Speaker. Order! Supplementary question, Supplementary, Mr Speaker. Order! Supplementary question, Grant Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. What Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. What kind Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. What kind of Supplementary question, Grant Robertson. What kind of short-term Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities lead Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities lead him Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities lead him to Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities lead him to believe Robertson. What kind of short-term priorities lead him to believe that priorities lead him to believe that it's priorities lead him to believe that it's a priorities lead him to believe that it's a good priorities lead him to believe that it's a good idea priorities lead him to believe that it's a good idea to priorities lead him to believe that it's a good idea to take priorities lead him to believe that it's a good idea to take $20 priorities lead him to believe that it's a good idea to take $20 billion it's a good idea to take $20 billion from it's a good idea to take $20 billion from Kiwis' it's a good idea to take $20 billion from Kiwis' future it's a good idea to take $20 billion from Kiwis' future retirements, from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in mind from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in mind they from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in mind they are from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in mind they are the from Kiwis' future retirements, bearing in mind they are the very bearing in mind they are the very people bearing in mind they are the very people carrying bearing in mind they are the very people carrying record bearing in mind they are the very people carrying record household people carrying record household debt, people carrying record household debt, or people carrying record household debt, or solving people carrying record household debt, or solving is people carrying record household debt, or solving is solving people carrying record household debt, or solving is solving New debt, or solving is solving New Zealand's debt, or solving is solving New Zealand's long-term debt, or solving is solving New Zealand's long-term problems Zealand's long-term problems something Zealand's long-term problems something for Zealand's long-term problems something for somebody Zealand's long-term problems something for somebody else Zealand's long-term problems something for somebody else to Zealand's long-term problems something for somebody else to deal something for somebody else to deal with? something for somebody else to deal with? 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We have decided that there are priorities that New Zealanders are priorities that New Zealanders want are priorities that New Zealanders want in are priorities that New Zealanders want in terms are priorities that New Zealanders want in terms of are priorities that New Zealanders want in terms of meeting are priorities that New Zealanders want in terms of meeting the are priorities that New Zealanders want in terms of meeting the costs want in terms of meeting the costs of want in terms of meeting the costs of the want in terms of meeting the costs of the Canterbury want in terms of meeting the costs of the Canterbury earthquakes, of the Canterbury earthquakes, including of the Canterbury earthquakes, including also of the Canterbury earthquakes, including also providing of the Canterbury earthquakes, including also providing for of the Canterbury earthquakes, including also providing for people including also providing for people during including also providing for people during the including also providing for people during the tough including also providing for people during the tough times including also providing for people during the tough times of including also providing for people during the tough times of the including also providing for people during the tough times of the GFC during the tough times of the GFC that during the tough times of the GFC that I during the tough times of the GFC that I have during the tough times of the GFC that I have to during the tough times of the GFC that I have to say during the tough times of the GFC that I have to say the during the tough times of the GFC that I have to say the public that I have to say the public appears that I have to say the public appears to that I have to say the public appears to have that I have to say the public appears to have supported that I have to say the public appears to have supported for that I have to say the public appears to have supported for a appears to have supported for a considerable appears to have supported for a considerable period appears to have supported for a considerable period of appears to have supported for a considerable period of time. appears to have supported for a considerable period of time. If appears to have supported for a considerable period of time. If the considerable period of time. If the member considerable period of time. If the member is considerable period of time. If the member is saying considerable period of time. If the member is saying that, considerable period of time. If the member is saying that, instead considerable period of time. 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But he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, I he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, I think he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, I think he's he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, I think he's wrong. he's entitled to make that argument. But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. Order! But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. Order! Point But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. Order! Point of But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. Order! Point of order, But actually, I think he's wrong. Mr Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Winston Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Winston Peters. Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Winston Peters. In Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all Speaker. Order! Point of order, the Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, I Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, I forgot Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, I forgot to Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, I forgot to seek Rt Hon Winston Peters. In all the excitement, I forgot to seek leave excitement, I forgot to seek leave to excitement, I forgot to seek leave to submit excitement, I forgot to seek leave to submit evidence excitement, I forgot to seek leave to submit evidence under excitement, I forgot to seek leave to submit evidence under the excitement, I forgot to seek leave to submit evidence under the Freedom to submit evidence under the Freedom of to submit evidence under the Freedom of Information to submit evidence under the Freedom of Information Act to submit evidence under the Freedom of Information Act regarding to submit evidence under the Freedom of Information Act regarding police of Information Act regarding police resourcing of Information Act regarding police resourcing meeting, of Information Act regarding police resourcing meeting, desperately resourcing meeting, desperately sought resourcing meeting, desperately sought at resourcing meeting, desperately sought at the resourcing meeting, desperately sought at the time resourcing meeting, desperately sought at the time by resourcing meeting, desperately sought at the time by the sought at the time by the then-minister sought at the time by the then-minister of sought at the time by the then-minister of police, sought at the time by the then-minister of police, one sought at the time by the then-minister of police, one Judith then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. Leave then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. Leave is then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. Leave is sought then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. Leave is sought to then-minister of police, one Judith Collins. Leave is sought to table Collins. Leave is sought to table that Collins. Leave is sought to table that particular Collins. Leave is sought to table that particular information Collins. Leave is sought to table that particular information released that particular information released under that particular information released under the that particular information released under the OIA. that particular information released under the OIA. Is that particular information released under the OIA. Is there that particular information released under the OIA. Is there any under the OIA. Is there any objection? under the OIA. Is there any objection? There under the OIA. Is there any objection? There is under the OIA. Is there any objection? There is none. under the OIA. Is there any objection? There is none. It under the OIA. Is there any objection? There is none. It can under the OIA. Is there any objection? There is none. It can be objection? There is none. It can be tabled. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 6 objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 6 - objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 6 - Kanwaljit tabled. Question No. 6 - Kanwaljit Singh tabled. Question No. 6 - Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: Minister of Police: What Minister of Police: What announcements What announcements has What announcements has the What announcements has the Government What announcements has the Government made has the Government made about has the Government made about investing has the Government made about investing in has the Government made about investing in police about investing in police to about investing in police to make about investing in police to make our about investing in police to make our communities about investing in police to make our communities safer? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, thank Mr Speaker, thank you Mr Speaker, thank you to Mr Speaker, thank you to the Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, the Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, the PM Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, the PM announced Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, the PM announced that Mr Speaker, thank you to the member. Last week, the PM announced that we Last week, the PM announced that we will Last week, the PM announced that we will be Last week, the PM announced that we will be boosting Last week, the PM announced that we will be boosting the Last week, the PM announced that we will be boosting the number Last week, the PM announced that we will be boosting the number of will be boosting the number of police will be boosting the number of police staff will be boosting the number of police staff by will be boosting the number of police staff by more will be boosting the number of police staff by more than will be boosting the number of police staff by more than 1,100 will be boosting the number of police staff by more than 1,100 over police staff by more than 1,100 over the police staff by more than 1,100 over the next police staff by more than 1,100 over the next four police staff by more than 1,100 over the next four years. police staff by more than 1,100 over the next four years. This police staff by more than 1,100 over the next four years. This $503 the next four years. This $503 million the next four years. This $503 million package the next four years. This $503 million package - the next four years. This $503 million package - which the next four years. This $503 million package - which includes the next four years. This $503 million package - which includes 880 million package - which includes 880 sworn million package - which includes 880 sworn police million package - which includes 880 sworn police and million package - which includes 880 sworn police and 245 million package - which includes 880 sworn police and 245 non-sworn million package - which includes 880 sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - is sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - is about sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - is about getting sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - is about getting the sworn police and 245 non-sworn staff - is about getting the worst - is about getting the worst offenders - is about getting the worst offenders off - is about getting the worst offenders off our - is about getting the worst offenders off our streets, - is about getting the worst offenders off our streets, as - is about getting the worst offenders off our streets, as well offenders off our streets, as well as offenders off our streets, as well as preventing offenders off our streets, as well as preventing crime. offenders off our streets, as well as preventing crime. The offenders off our streets, as well as preventing crime. The package offenders off our streets, as well as preventing crime. The package is as preventing crime. The package is just as preventing crime. The package is just another as preventing crime. The package is just another step as preventing crime. The package is just another step on as preventing crime. The package is just another step on from as preventing crime. The package is just another step on from the as preventing crime. The package is just another step on from the 600 just another step on from the 600 extra just another step on from the 600 extra police just another step on from the 600 extra police put just another step on from the 600 extra police put in just another step on from the 600 extra police put in place just another step on from the 600 extra police put in place since extra police put in place since National extra police put in place since National came extra police put in place since National came to extra police put in place since National came to government, extra police put in place since National came to government, and extra police put in place since National came to government, and our National came to government, and our investment National came to government, and our investment in National came to government, and our investment in mobile National came to government, and our investment in mobile technology National came to government, and our investment in mobile technology that investment in mobile technology that has investment in mobile technology that has freed investment in mobile technology that has freed up investment in mobile technology that has freed up the investment in mobile technology that has freed up the equivalent investment in mobile technology that has freed up the equivalent of investment in mobile technology that has freed up the equivalent of 350 has freed up the equivalent of 350 front-line has freed up the equivalent of 350 front-line officers. has freed up the equivalent of 350 front-line officers. Supplementary front-line officers. Supplementary question, front-line officers. Supplementary question, Kanwaljit front-line officers. Supplementary question, Kanwaljit Singh front-line officers. Supplementary question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What areas question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What areas will question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What areas will the question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What areas will the new question, Kanwaljit Singh Bakshi. What areas will the new police What areas will the new police target? target? This target? This package target? This package has target? This package has been target? This package has been carefully target? 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Another 140 will be dedicated to our rural and regional areas. Another 140 140 will be dedicated to our rural and regional areas. Another 140 will and regional areas. Another 140 will investigate and regional areas. Another 140 will investigate serious and regional areas. Another 140 will investigate serious offending and regional areas. 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But I say to the member, if you read the actual the member, if you read the actual tables the member, if you read the actual tables that the member, if you read the actual tables that are the member, if you read the actual tables that are published the member, if you read the actual tables that are published in the member, if you read the actual tables that are published in the tables that are published in the report, tables that are published in the report, instead tables that are published in the report, instead of tables that are published in the report, instead of selectively report, instead of selectively quoting report, instead of selectively quoting headlines report, instead of selectively quoting headlines - report, instead of selectively quoting headlines - in report, instead of selectively quoting headlines - in particular, quoting headlines - in particular, material quoting headlines - in particular, material hardship quoting headlines - in particular, material hardship rates quoting headlines - in particular, material hardship rates have material hardship rates have consistently material hardship rates have consistently fallen material hardship rates have consistently fallen over material hardship rates have consistently fallen over the material hardship rates have consistently fallen over the past consistently fallen over the past five consistently fallen over the past five years. consistently fallen over the past five years. 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Supplementary <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question, Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. In Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. In light Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. In light of Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her answer, Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her answer, is Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her answer, is the Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her answer, is the Salvation Carmel Sepuloni. In light of her answer, is the Salvation Army Carmel Sepuloni. 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No. Is show considerable progress has been made. Is it enough? No. Is this made. Is it enough? No. Is this Government made. Is it enough? No. Is this Government content made. Is it enough? No. Is this Government content and made. Is it enough? No. Is this Government content and doing made. Is it enough? No. Is this Government content and doing nothing Government content and doing nothing more? Government content and doing nothing more? No. Government content and doing nothing more? No. We Government content and doing nothing more? No. We all Government content and doing nothing more? No. We all want Government content and doing nothing more? No. We all want to Government content and doing nothing more? No. We all want to make Government content and doing nothing more? No. We all want to make sure more? No. We all want to make sure that more? No. We all want to make sure that every more? No. We all want to make sure that every single more? 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No. We all want to make sure that every single New Zealand child that every single New Zealand child in that every single New Zealand child in New that every single New Zealand child in New Zealand that every single New Zealand child in New Zealand has that every single New Zealand child in New Zealand has the that every single New Zealand child in New Zealand has the opportunity in New Zealand has the opportunity to in New Zealand has the opportunity to live in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a great in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a great life, in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a great life, and in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a great life, and all in New Zealand has the opportunity to live a great life, and all the to live a great life, and all the long to live a great life, and all the long list to live a great life, and all the long list of to live a great life, and all the long list of things to live a great life, and all the long list of things that to live a great life, and all the long list of things that this long list of things that this Government long list of things that this Government has long list of things that this Government has done long list of things that this Government has done that long list of things that this Government has done that the long list of things that this Government has done that the PM Government has done that the PM spoke Government has done that the PM spoke about Government has done that the PM spoke about the Government has done that the PM spoke about the other Government has done that the PM spoke about the other day Government has done that the PM spoke about the other day are Government has done that the PM spoke about the other day are all spoke about the other day are all destined spoke about the other day are all destined to spoke about the other day are all destined to help spoke about the other day are all destined to help those spoke about the other day are all destined to help those young spoke about the other day are all destined to help those young New destined to help those young New Zealanders destined to help those young New Zealanders live destined to help those young New Zealanders live that destined to help those young New Zealanders live that great destined to help those young New Zealanders live that great life. 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If so, will she continue to ignore the Children's continue to ignore the Children's Commissioner's continue to ignore the Children's Commissioner's call continue to ignore the Children's Commissioner's call for continue to ignore the Children's Commissioner's call for a Commissioner's call for a cross-party Commissioner's call for a cross-party consensus Commissioner's call for a cross-party consensus on Commissioner's call for a cross-party consensus on a Commissioner's call for a cross-party consensus on a target Commissioner's call for a cross-party consensus on a target to cross-party consensus on a target to reduce cross-party consensus on a target to reduce child cross-party consensus on a target to reduce child poverty? cross-party consensus on a target to reduce child poverty? Mr cross-party consensus on a target to reduce child poverty? Mr Speaker, reduce child poverty? Mr Speaker, no, reduce child poverty? Mr Speaker, no, I reduce child poverty? 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But I do agree with him that it's time that agree with him that it's time that politicians agree with him that it's time that politicians like agree with him that it's time that politicians like Labour agree with him that it's time that politicians like Labour stop agree with him that it's time that politicians like Labour stop talking politicians like Labour stop talking about politicians like Labour stop talking about poverty politicians like Labour stop talking about poverty and politicians like Labour stop talking about poverty and join politicians like Labour stop talking about poverty and join this about poverty and join this Government about poverty and join this Government and about poverty and join this Government and back about poverty and join this Government and back this about poverty and join this Government and back this Government Government and back this Government with Government and back this Government with all Government and back this Government with all the Government and back this Government with all the measures Government and back this Government with all the measures we Government and back this Government with all the measures we have Government and back this Government with all the measures we have put Government and back this Government with all the measures we have put in with all the measures we have put in place with all the measures we have put in place to with all the measures we have put in place to lift with all the measures we have put in place to lift those with all the measures we have put in place to lift those children with all the measures we have put in place to lift those children out with all the measures we have put in place to lift those children out of place to lift those children out of poverty. place to lift those children out of poverty. <INTERRUPTION> poverty. <INTERRUPTION> Order! poverty. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary poverty. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question, Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. Given Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. Given child Order! Supplementary question, Carmel Sepuloni. Given child poverty Carmel Sepuloni. Given child poverty rates Carmel Sepuloni. Given child poverty rates have Carmel Sepuloni. Given child poverty rates have remained Carmel Sepuloni. Given child poverty rates have remained alarmingly Carmel Sepuloni. 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I've said several times in this House, we have commissioned this House, we have commissioned research this House, we have commissioned research pre- this House, we have commissioned research pre- and this House, we have commissioned research pre- and post-welfare research pre- and post-welfare reforms research pre- and post-welfare reforms to research pre- and post-welfare reforms to see research pre- and post-welfare reforms to see exactly research pre- and post-welfare reforms to see exactly what research pre- and post-welfare reforms to see exactly what happens reforms to see exactly what happens to reforms to see exactly what happens to people reforms to see exactly what happens to people who reforms to see exactly what happens to people who go reforms to see exactly what happens to people who go off reforms to see exactly what happens to people who go off benefit. reforms to see exactly what happens to people who go off benefit. But to people who go off benefit. 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But the evidence is very clear, and the the evidence is very clear, and the Labour the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party really the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party really have the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party really have to the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party really have to get the evidence is very clear, and the Labour Party really have to get to Labour Party really have to get to grips Labour Party really have to get to grips with Labour Party really have to get to grips with it Labour Party really have to get to grips with it - Labour Party really have to get to grips with it - that Labour Party really have to get to grips with it - that a Labour Party really have to get to grips with it - that a life grips with it - that a life dependent grips with it - that a life dependent on grips with it - that a life dependent on taxpayers' grips with it - that a life dependent on taxpayers' benefits dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to a dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to a life dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to a life of dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to a life of hardship dependent on taxpayers' benefits leads to a life of hardship and leads to a life of hardship and poverty, leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not only leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not only for leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not only for the leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not only for the people leads to a life of hardship and poverty, not only for the people who poverty, not only for the people who are poverty, not only for the people who are dependent poverty, not only for the people who are dependent on poverty, not only for the people who are dependent on that poverty, not only for the people who are dependent on that support, poverty, not only for the people who are dependent on that support, but are dependent on that support, but for are dependent on that support, but for their are dependent on that support, but for their children. are dependent on that support, but for their children. 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That's what this Government has focused work. That's what this Government has focused on. work. That's what this Government has focused on. We work. That's what this Government has focused on. We are work. That's what this Government has focused on. We are being has focused on. We are being successful has focused on. We are being successful with has focused on. We are being successful with it. has focused on. We are being successful with it. We has focused on. We are being successful with it. We know has focused on. We are being successful with it. We know that, successful with it. We know that, for successful with it. We know that, for some successful with it. We know that, for some people, successful with it. We know that, for some people, it successful with it. We know that, for some people, it is successful with it. We know that, for some people, it is difficult. for some people, it is difficult. We're for some people, it is difficult. We're providing for some people, it is difficult. We're providing training. for some people, it is difficult. We're providing training. We're We're providing training. We're providing We're providing training. We're providing money We're providing training. We're providing money for We're providing training. We're providing money for things We're providing training. We're providing money for things like providing money for things like drivers' providing money for things like drivers' licences. providing money for things like drivers' licences. We providing money for things like drivers' licences. We are providing money for things like drivers' licences. We are doing drivers' licences. We are doing everything drivers' licences. We are doing everything we drivers' licences. We are doing everything we can drivers' licences. We are doing everything we can to drivers' licences. We are doing everything we can to support drivers' licences. We are doing everything we can to support people everything we can to support people into everything we can to support people into employment, everything we can to support people into employment, because everything we can to support people into employment, because that everything we can to support people into employment, because that is everything we can to support people into employment, because that is the into employment, because that is the best into employment, because that is the best way into employment, because that is the best way to into employment, because that is the best way to lift into employment, because that is the best way to lift them into employment, because that is the best way to lift them out into employment, because that is the best way to lift them out of best way to lift them out of poverty. best way to lift them out of poverty. Question best way to lift them out of poverty. Question No. best way to lift them out of poverty. Question No. 9 best way to lift them out of poverty. Question No. 9 - best way to lift them out of poverty. Question No. 9 - Matt poverty. Question No. 9 - Matt Doocey. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Communications: Minister for Communications: What Minister for Communications: What recent Minister for Communications: What recent announcements What recent announcements has What recent announcements has he What recent announcements has he made has he made on has he made on the has he made on the Ultra-fast has he made on the Ultra-fast Broadband on the Ultra-fast Broadband programme? 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This covered by the first phase of the programme. This extension covered by the first phase of the programme. This extension will programme. This extension will provide programme. This extension will provide up programme. This extension will provide up to programme. This extension will provide up to 85% programme. This extension will provide up to 85% of programme. This extension will provide up to 85% of New programme. This extension will provide up to 85% of New Zealanders provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both rural provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both rural and provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both rural and urban provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both rural and urban areas provide up to 85% of New Zealanders in both rural and urban areas from in both rural and urban areas from Ruratoria in both rural and urban areas from Ruratoria across in both rural and urban areas from Ruratoria across the in both rural and urban areas from Ruratoria across the land in both rural and urban areas from Ruratoria across the land to Ruratoria across the land to world-class Ruratoria across the land to world-class internet Ruratoria across the land to world-class internet by Ruratoria across the land to world-class internet by the Ruratoria across the land to world-class internet by the end Ruratoria across the land to world-class internet by the end of world-class internet by the end of 2024. world-class internet by the end of 2024. Order! world-class internet by the end of 2024. Order! Supplementary world-class internet by the end of 2024. Order! Supplementary question, 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt Doocey. 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt Doocey. How 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt Doocey. How will 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 2024. Order! Supplementary question, Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support economic Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support economic development Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support economic development in Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support economic development in regional Matt Doocey. How will UFB2 support economic development in regional and economic development in regional and rural economic development in regional and rural communities? economic development in regional and rural communities? Mr economic development in regional and rural communities? Mr Speaker, economic development in regional and rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of the rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of the programme rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of the programme is rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of the programme is a rural communities? Mr Speaker, Phase 2 of the programme is a significant 2 of the programme is a significant investment 2 of the programme is a significant investment in 2 of the programme is a significant investment in our 2 of the programme is a significant investment in our regions, 2 of the programme is a significant investment in our regions, and 2 of the programme is a significant investment in our regions, and forms investment in our regions, and forms part investment in our regions, and forms part of investment in our regions, and forms part of the investment in our regions, and forms part of the Government's investment in our regions, and forms part of the Government's commitment part of the Government's commitment to part of the Government's commitment to helping part of the Government's commitment to helping our part of the Government's commitment to helping our regional part of the Government's commitment to helping our regional economies to helping our regional economies grow to helping our regional economies grow and to helping our regional economies grow and diversify. to helping our regional economies grow and diversify. More to helping our regional economies grow and diversify. More than to helping our regional economies grow and diversify. More than $30 grow and diversify. More than $30 million grow and diversify. More than $30 million will grow and diversify. More than $30 million will be grow and diversify. More than $30 million will be spent grow and diversify. More than $30 million will be spent on grow and diversify. More than $30 million will be spent on installing million will be spent on installing fibre million will be spent on installing fibre in million will be spent on installing fibre in Canterbury million will be spent on installing fibre in Canterbury alone. million will be spent on installing fibre in Canterbury alone. It's fibre in Canterbury alone. It's estimated fibre in Canterbury alone. It's estimated the fibre in Canterbury alone. It's estimated the UFB fibre in Canterbury alone. It's estimated the UFB initiative fibre in Canterbury alone. It's estimated the UFB initiative will estimated the UFB initiative will generate estimated the UFB initiative will generate more estimated the UFB initiative will generate more than estimated the UFB initiative will generate more than $33 estimated the UFB initiative will generate more than $33 billion estimated the UFB initiative will generate more than $33 billion in generate more than $33 billion in economic generate more than $33 billion in economic benefit. generate more than $33 billion in economic benefit. While generate more than $33 billion in economic benefit. While the generate more than $33 billion in economic benefit. While the full economic benefit. While the full fibre economic benefit. While the full fibre rollout economic benefit. While the full fibre rollout will economic benefit. While the full fibre rollout will be economic benefit. While the full fibre rollout will be completed economic benefit. While the full fibre rollout will be completed by fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we have fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we have prioritised fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we have prioritised 29 fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns fibre rollout will be completed by 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - Northland, 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - Northland, Bay 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - Northland, Bay of 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - Northland, Bay of Plenty, 2024, we have prioritised 29 towns - Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Whanganui Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the Northland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast will Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast will have Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast will have the Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast will have the UFB Hawke's Bay, Whanganui and the West Coast will have the UFB builds Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked to Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked to be Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked to be complete Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked to be complete by Coast will have the UFB builds fast-tracked to be complete by the fast-tracked to be complete by the end fast-tracked to be complete by the end of fast-tracked to be complete by the end of 2020. fast-tracked to be complete by the end of 2020. 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But saddened that the member doesn't believe me. But let saddened that the member doesn't believe me. But let me saddened that the member doesn't believe me. But let me give saddened that the member doesn't believe me. But let me give him saddened that the member doesn't believe me. But let me give him the believe me. But let me give him the facts. believe me. But let me give him the facts. Over believe me. But let me give him the facts. Over $33 believe me. But let me give him the facts. Over $33 million believe me. But let me give him the facts. Over $33 million by believe me. But let me give him the facts. Over $33 million by 2020 facts. Over $33 million by 2020 being facts. Over $33 million by 2020 being invested facts. Over $33 million by 2020 being invested across facts. Over $33 million by 2020 being invested across Northland. facts. Over $33 million by 2020 being invested across Northland. I being invested across Northland. I appreciate being invested across Northland. I appreciate he's being invested across Northland. I appreciate he's not being invested across Northland. I appreciate he's not going being invested across Northland. I appreciate he's not going to being invested across Northland. I appreciate he's not going to but, being invested across Northland. 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Government's ambitious targets for connectivity? Mr Government's ambitious targets for connectivity? Mr Speaker, Government's ambitious targets for connectivity? Mr Speaker, the Government's ambitious targets for connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of the connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of the programme connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of the programme is connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of the programme is ahead connectivity? Mr Speaker, the first phase of the programme is ahead of phase of the programme is ahead of schedule phase of the programme is ahead of schedule in phase of the programme is ahead of schedule in delivering phase of the programme is ahead of schedule in delivering fibre phase of the programme is ahead of schedule in delivering fibre to phase of the programme is ahead of schedule in delivering fibre to the schedule in delivering fibre to the premises schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of 75% schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of 75% of schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of 75% of New schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of 75% of New Zealanders schedule in delivering fibre to the premises of 75% of New Zealanders by premises of 75% of New Zealanders by 2019. premises of 75% of New Zealanders by 2019. The premises of 75% of New Zealanders by 2019. The second premises of 75% of New Zealanders by 2019. The second phase premises of 75% of New Zealanders by 2019. The second phase of 2019. The second phase of installations 2019. The second phase of installations will 2019. The second phase of installations will start 2019. The second phase of installations will start in 2019. The second phase of installations will start in 2017 2019. The second phase of installations will start in 2017 and installations will start in 2017 and be installations will start in 2017 and be completed installations will start in 2017 and be completed between installations will start in 2017 and be completed between '18 installations will start in 2017 and be completed between '18 and installations will start in 2017 and be completed between '18 and '24. be completed between '18 and '24. Phase be completed between '18 and '24. Phase 2 be completed between '18 and '24. Phase 2 of be completed between '18 and '24. Phase 2 of the be completed between '18 and '24. 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Phase 2 of the build will see each Phase 2 of the build will see each build Phase 2 of the build will see each build area Phase 2 of the build will see each build area be Phase 2 of the build will see each build area be completed Phase 2 of the build will see each build area be completed within Phase 2 of the build will see each build area be completed within a build area be completed within a 12-month build area be completed within a 12-month period build area be completed within a 12-month period in build area be completed within a 12-month period in order build area be completed within a 12-month period in order to build area be completed within a 12-month period in order to provide 12-month period in order to provide as 12-month period in order to provide as little 12-month period in order to provide as little disruption 12-month period in order to provide as little disruption as 12-month period in order to provide as little disruption as possible. 12-month period in order to provide as little disruption as possible. By as little disruption as possible. By 2024, as little disruption as possible. By 2024, approximately as little disruption as possible. By 2024, approximately 85% as little disruption as possible. By 2024, approximately 85% of as little disruption as possible. 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What recent reports has she received What recent reports has she received on What recent reports has she received on NCEA What recent reports has she received on NCEA achievement What recent reports has she received on NCEA achievement for What recent reports has she received on NCEA achievement for 2016? Tena Tena koe, Tena koe, Mr Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased to Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased to see Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased to see that Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased to see that the Tena koe, Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker, I was pleased to see that the 2016 was pleased to see that the 2016 Provisional was pleased to see that the 2016 Provisional NCEA was pleased to see that the 2016 Provisional NCEA results was pleased to see that the 2016 Provisional NCEA results show was pleased to see that the 2016 Provisional NCEA results show that Provisional NCEA results show that more Provisional NCEA results show that more students Provisional NCEA results show that more students are Provisional NCEA results show that more students are achieving Provisional NCEA results show that more students are achieving NCEA Provisional NCEA results show that more students are achieving NCEA II more students are achieving NCEA II - more students are achieving NCEA II - the more students are achieving NCEA II - the recognised more students are achieving NCEA II - the recognised minimum - the recognised minimum qualification - the recognised minimum Provisional - the recognised minimum qualification for success. - the recognised minimum qualification for success. The qualification for success. The provisional qualification for success. The provisional role-based qualification for success. The provisional role-based data qualification for success. The provisional role-based data shows provisional role-based data shows achievement provisional role-based data shows achievement in provisional role-based data shows achievement in NCEA provisional role-based data shows achievement in NCEA II provisional role-based data shows achievement in NCEA II has provisional role-based data shows achievement in NCEA II has risen provisional role-based data shows achievement in NCEA II has risen to achievement in NCEA II has risen to 77.4%, achievement in NCEA II has risen to 77.4%, or achievement in NCEA II has risen to 77.4%, or 43,911 achievement in NCEA II has risen to 77.4%, or 43,911 young achievement in NCEA II has risen to 77.4%, or 43,911 young New 77.4%, or 43,911 young New Zealanders. 77.4%, or 43,911 young New Zealanders. This 77.4%, or 43,911 young New Zealanders. This means 77.4%, or 43,911 young New Zealanders. This means that 77.4%, or 43,911 young New Zealanders. This means that over Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 more Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 more Year Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 more Year 12 Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 more Year 12 students Zealanders. This means that over 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in the 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in the 2016 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in the 2016 year 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in the 2016 year compared 9,000 more Year 12 students achieved NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the 2008 NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the 2008 year NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the 2008 year of NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the 2008 year of the NCEA II in the 2016 year compared to the 2008 year of the Opposition. Supplementary Supplementary question, Supplementary question, Joanne Supplementary question, Joanne Hayes. Supplementary question, Joanne Hayes. 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Mr Speaker, one of the highlights of the in NCEA? Mr Speaker, one of the highlights of the provisional in NCEA? 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