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Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.

Primary Title
  • Parliament TV: Questions for Oral Answer
Date Broadcast
  • Wednesday 15 February 2017
Start Time
  • 14 : 00
Finish Time
  • 15 : 30
Duration
  • 90:00
Channel
  • Parliament TV
Broadcaster
  • Kordia
Programme Description
  • Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
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Select committee reports have been delivered presented. Select committee reports have been delivered for have been delivered for presentation. Reports Reports of Reports of the Reports of the Commerce Reports of the Commerce Committee Reports of the Commerce Committee on Reports of the Commerce Committee on the Reports of the Commerce Committee on the 2015/16 Reports of the Commerce Committee on the 2015/16 Annual Reports of the Commerce Committee on the 2015/16 Annual Review on the 2015/16 Annual Review of on the 2015/16 Annual Review of Genesis on the 2015/16 Annual Review of Genesis Power on the 2015/16 Annual Review of Genesis Power Limited. of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 Annual of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 Annual review of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 Annual review of of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 Annual review of the of Genesis Power Limited. 2015/16 Annual review of the New 2015/16 Annual review of the New Zealand 2015/16 Annual review of the New Zealand Productivity 2015/16 Annual review of the New Zealand Productivity Commission. 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How can he have confidence in his Hon Winston Peters. How can he have confidence in his Minister Hon Winston Peters. How can he have confidence in his Minister of confidence in his Minister of Finance, confidence in his Minister of Finance, previously confidence in his Minister of Finance, previously minister confidence in his Minister of Finance, previously minister of confidence in his Minister of Finance, previously minister of MB, Finance, previously minister of MB, when Finance, previously minister of MB, when the Finance, previously minister of MB, when the present Finance, previously minister of MB, when the present minister, Finance, previously minister of MB, when the present minister, Simon when the present minister, Simon Bridges, when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had to when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had to ask when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had to ask questions when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had to ask questions of when the present minister, Simon Bridges, had to ask questions of his Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on why Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on why almost Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on why almost 39 Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on why almost 39 men Bridges, had to ask questions of his staff on why almost 39 men were staff on why almost 39 men were spent staff on why almost 39 men were spent in staff on why almost 39 men were spent in the staff on why almost 39 men were spent in the last staff on why almost 39 men were spent in the last financial staff on why almost 39 men were spent in the last financial year staff on why almost 39 men were spent in the last financial year on spent in the last financial year on contractors spent in the last financial year on contractors and spent in the last financial year on contractors and consultants spent in the last financial year on contractors and consultants by spent in the last financial year on contractors and consultants by his contractors and consultants by his predecessor, contractors and consultants by his predecessor, the contractors and consultants by his predecessor, the Hon contractors and consultants by his predecessor, the Hon Steven contractors and consultants by his predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? Well, predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? Well, Mr predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? Well, Mr Speaker, predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? Well, Mr Speaker, the predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? Well, Mr Speaker, the Minister predecessor, the Hon Steven Joyce? 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Mr expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, point expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, point of expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, point of order. expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, point of order. I expenditure with a fine-tooth comb. Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to table Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to table a Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to table a document Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to table a document from Mr Speaker, point of order. I seek leave to table a document from the leave to table a document from the Official leave to table a document from the Official Information leave to table a document from the Official Information Act leave to table a document from the Official Information Act dated leave to table a document from the Official Information Act dated 9 Official Information Act dated 9 September Official Information Act dated 9 September 2016 Official Information Act dated 9 September 2016 detailing Official Information Act dated 9 September 2016 detailing the September 2016 detailing the recruitment, September 2016 detailing the recruitment, consult September 2016 detailing the recruitment, consult and September 2016 detailing the recruitment, consult and spend September 2016 detailing the recruitment, consult and spend with recruitment, consult and spend with just recruitment, consult and spend with just some recruitment, consult and spend with just some of recruitment, consult and spend with just some of the recruitment, consult and spend with just some of the companies recruitment, consult and spend with just some of the companies of recruitment, consult and spend with just some of the companies of the just some of the companies of the all-of-government just some of the companies of the all-of-government contract. just some of the companies of the all-of-government contract. 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Can the minister describe a scenario where a growing economy scenario where a growing economy would scenario where a growing economy would not scenario where a growing economy would not increase scenario where a growing economy would not increase the scenario where a growing economy would not increase the Government's would not increase the Government's tax would not increase the Government's tax revenues? would not increase the Government's tax revenues? The would not increase the Government's tax revenues? The Hon would not increase the Government's tax revenues? The Hon Steven would not increase the Government's tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. Well, tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. Well, Mr tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. Well, Mr Speaker, tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. Well, Mr Speaker, the tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. Well, Mr Speaker, the member, tax revenues? The Hon Steven Joyce. 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The households than three years ago. The Children's households than three years ago. The Children's Commissioner households than three years ago. The Children's Commissioner and households than three years ago. The Children's Commissioner and the Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Army Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Army may Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Army may not Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Army may not regard Children's Commissioner and the Salvation Army may not regard that Salvation Army may not regard that as Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. We Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. We certainly Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. We certainly do, Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. We certainly do, and Salvation Army may not regard that as progress. We certainly do, and so as progress. We certainly do, and so do as progress. We certainly do, and so do the as progress. We certainly do, and so do the families as progress. We certainly do, and so do the families who as progress. We certainly do, and so do the families who worked as progress. We certainly do, and so do the families who worked so as progress. We certainly do, and so do the families who worked so hard do the families who worked so hard to do the families who worked so hard to get do the families who worked so hard to get themselves do the families who worked so hard to get themselves off do the families who worked so hard to get themselves off benefit do the families who worked so hard to get themselves off benefit and to get themselves off benefit and into to get themselves off benefit and into work. to get themselves off benefit and into work. Order! to get themselves off benefit and into work. Order! Does to get themselves off benefit and into work. Order! Does he to get themselves off benefit and into work. Order! Does he agree to get themselves off benefit and into work. Order! Does he agree with into work. Order! Does he agree with the into work. Order! Does he agree with the Children's into work. Order! Does he agree with the Children's Commissioner into work. Order! Does he agree with the Children's Commissioner that into work. Order! Does he agree with the Children's Commissioner that the the Children's Commissioner that the current the Children's Commissioner that the current level the Children's Commissioner that the current level of the Children's Commissioner that the current level of child the Children's Commissioner that the current level of child poverty the Children's Commissioner that the current level of child poverty is current level of child poverty is unacceptable, current level of child poverty is unacceptable, and current level of child poverty is unacceptable, and is current level of child poverty is unacceptable, and is he current level of child poverty is unacceptable, and is he concerned unacceptable, and is he concerned the unacceptable, and is he concerned the Children's unacceptable, and is he concerned the Children's Commissioner unacceptable, and is he concerned the Children's Commissioner found unacceptable, and is he concerned the Children's Commissioner found no the Children's Commissioner found no evidence the Children's Commissioner found no evidence his the Children's Commissioner found no evidence his policies the Children's Commissioner found no evidence his policies are the Children's Commissioner found no evidence his policies are making the Children's Commissioner found no evidence his policies are making a evidence his policies are making a difference? evidence his policies are making a difference? As evidence his policies are making a difference? As I evidence his policies are making a difference? As I said, evidence his policies are making a difference? As I said, I evidence his policies are making a difference? As I said, I don't difference? As I said, I don't actually difference? As I said, I don't actually agree difference? As I said, I don't actually agree with difference? As I said, I don't actually agree with the difference? As I said, I don't actually agree with the Children's actually agree with the Children's Commissioner. actually agree with the Children's Commissioner. I actually agree with the Children's Commissioner. I don't actually agree with the Children's Commissioner. I don't believe actually agree with the Children's Commissioner. I don't believe he's Commissioner. I don't believe he's taking Commissioner. I don't believe he's taking into Commissioner. I don't believe he's taking into account Commissioner. I don't believe he's taking into account actual Commissioner. I don't believe he's taking into account actual changes taking into account actual changes for taking into account actual changes for children, taking into account actual changes for children, and taking into account actual changes for children, and the taking into account actual changes for children, and the change taking into account actual changes for children, and the change in for children, and the change in approach for children, and the change in approach that for children, and the change in approach that the for children, and the change in approach that the Government for children, and the change in approach that the Government is approach that the Government is taking approach that the Government is taking - approach that the Government is taking - which approach that the Government is taking - which is approach that the Government is taking - which is twofold. approach that the Government is taking - which is twofold. First, approach that the Government is taking - which is twofold. First, to taking - which is twofold. First, to increase taking - which is twofold. First, to increase incomes taking - which is twofold. First, to increase incomes where taking - which is twofold. First, to increase incomes where that's increase incomes where that's possible increase incomes where that's possible in increase incomes where that's possible in a increase incomes where that's possible in a number increase incomes where that's possible in a number of increase incomes where that's possible in a number of ways, possible in a number of ways, including possible in a number of ways, including lifting possible in a number of ways, including lifting benefit possible in a number of ways, including lifting benefit levels possible in a number of ways, including lifting benefit levels and including lifting benefit levels and lifting including lifting benefit levels and lifting the including lifting benefit levels and lifting the minimum including lifting benefit levels and lifting the minimum wage. including lifting benefit levels and lifting the minimum wage. And lifting the minimum wage. And alongside lifting the minimum wage. And alongside that, lifting the minimum wage. And alongside that, to lifting the minimum wage. And alongside that, to dig lifting the minimum wage. And alongside that, to dig into lifting the minimum wage. And alongside that, to dig into the alongside that, to dig into the multigenerational alongside that, to dig into the multigenerational cycles alongside that, to dig into the multigenerational cycles of alongside that, to dig into the multigenerational cycles of crime, multigenerational cycles of crime, criminal multigenerational cycles of crime, criminal offending, multigenerational cycles of crime, criminal offending, child multigenerational cycles of crime, criminal offending, child abuse multigenerational cycles of crime, criminal offending, child abuse and criminal offending, child abuse and welfare criminal offending, child abuse and welfare dependency criminal offending, child abuse and welfare dependency that criminal offending, child abuse and welfare dependency that afflict criminal offending, child abuse and welfare dependency that afflict the welfare dependency that afflict the lies welfare dependency that afflict the lies of welfare dependency that afflict the lies of far welfare dependency that afflict the lies of far too welfare dependency that afflict the lies of far too many welfare dependency that afflict the lies of far too many children. lies of far too many children. That's lies of far too many children. That's why lies of far too many children. That's why we're lies of far too many children. That's why we're changing lies of far too many children. That's why we're changing the lies of far too many children. That's why we're changing the way That's why we're changing the way Government That's why we're changing the way Government does That's why we're changing the way Government does business, That's why we're changing the way Government does business, ranging Government does business, ranging from Government does business, ranging from family Government does business, ranging from family violence Government does business, ranging from family violence to Government does business, ranging from family violence to the Government does business, ranging from family violence to the new from family violence to the new children's from family violence to the new children's agency from family violence to the new children's agency to from family violence to the new children's agency to break from family violence to the new children's agency to break those children's agency to break those cycles. children's agency to break those cycles. Why children's agency to break those cycles. Why does children's agency to break those cycles. Why does he children's agency to break those cycles. Why does he continue children's agency to break those cycles. Why does he continue to children's agency to break those cycles. Why does he continue to say cycles. Why does he continue to say that cycles. Why does he continue to say that the cycles. Why does he continue to say that the increase cycles. Why does he continue to say that the increase in cycles. Why does he continue to say that the increase in benefit cycles. Why does he continue to say that the increase in benefit levels that the increase in benefit levels implemented that the increase in benefit levels implemented by that the increase in benefit levels implemented by his that the increase in benefit levels implemented by his Government that the increase in benefit levels implemented by his Government - that the increase in benefit levels implemented by his Government - and implemented by his Government - and increases implemented by his Government - and increases in implemented by his Government - and increases in the implemented by his Government - and increases in the minimum implemented by his Government - and increases in the minimum wage, implemented by his Government - and increases in the minimum wage, which increases in the minimum wage, which have increases in the minimum wage, which have now increases in the minimum wage, which have now been increases in the minimum wage, which have now been completely increases in the minimum wage, which have now been completely wiped increases in the minimum wage, which have now been completely wiped out have now been completely wiped out by have now been completely wiped out by increases have now been completely wiped out by increases in have now been completely wiped out by increases in housing have now been completely wiped out by increases in housing costs, by increases in housing costs, according by increases in housing costs, according to by increases in housing costs, according to the by increases in housing costs, according to the Salvation by increases in housing costs, according to the Salvation Army by increases in housing costs, according to the Salvation Army - according to the Salvation Army - are according to the Salvation Army - are somehow according to the Salvation Army - are somehow this according to the Salvation Army - are somehow this panacea according to the Salvation Army - are somehow this panacea to according to the Salvation Army - are somehow this panacea to child are somehow this panacea to child poverty, are somehow this panacea to child poverty, when are somehow this panacea to child poverty, when every are somehow this panacea to child poverty, when every other are somehow this panacea to child poverty, when every other element are somehow this panacea to child poverty, when every other element of poverty, when every other element of evidence poverty, when every other element of evidence says poverty, when every other element of evidence says it poverty, when every other element of evidence says it clearly poverty, when every other element of evidence says it clearly is poverty, when every other element of evidence says it clearly is not? evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike the evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike the member, evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike the member, we evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike the member, we don't evidence says it clearly is not? Unlike the member, we don't think Unlike the member, we don't think there Unlike the member, we don't think there is Unlike the member, we don't think there is a Unlike the member, we don't think there is a simple Unlike the member, we don't think there is a simple panacea Unlike the member, we don't think there is a simple panacea to Unlike the member, we don't think there is a simple panacea to child there is a simple panacea to child poverty, there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a lot there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a lot of there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a lot of it there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a lot of it is there is a simple panacea to child poverty, because a lot of it is to poverty, because a lot of it is to do poverty, because a lot of it is to do with poverty, because a lot of it is to do with deeply poverty, because a lot of it is to do with deeply ingrained poverty, because a lot of it is to do with deeply ingrained patterns do with deeply ingrained patterns which do with deeply ingrained patterns which the do with deeply ingrained patterns which the Government do with deeply ingrained patterns which the Government has, do with deeply ingrained patterns which the Government has, to do with deeply ingrained patterns which the Government has, to some... which the Government has, to some... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> ..which <INTERRUPTION> ..which Government <INTERRUPTION> ..which Government has <INTERRUPTION> ..which Government has actually, ..which Government has actually, traditionally, ..which Government has actually, traditionally, reinforced ..which Government has actually, traditionally, reinforced in ..which Government has actually, traditionally, reinforced in some traditionally, reinforced in some cases, traditionally, reinforced in some cases, and traditionally, reinforced in some cases, and now traditionally, reinforced in some cases, and now we're traditionally, reinforced in some cases, and now we're trying traditionally, reinforced in some cases, and now we're trying to cases, and now we're trying to change cases, and now we're trying to change that. cases, and now we're trying to change that. But cases, and now we're trying to change that. But if cases, and now we're trying to change that. But if the cases, and now we're trying to change that. But if the member change that. But if the member thinks change that. But if the member thinks that change that. But if the member thinks that $25 change that. But if the member thinks that $25 a change that. But if the member thinks that $25 a week change that. But if the member thinks that $25 a week is change that. But if the member thinks that $25 a week is worth thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing to thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing to those thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing to those households, thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing to those households, then thinks that $25 a week is worth nothing to those households, then he nothing to those households, then he ought nothing to those households, then he ought to nothing to those households, then he ought to get nothing to those households, then he ought to get a nothing to those households, then he ought to get a bit nothing to those households, then he ought to get a bit more nothing to those households, then he ought to get a bit more realistic ought to get a bit more realistic about ought to get a bit more realistic about what ought to get a bit more realistic about what their ought to get a bit more realistic about what their lives ought to get a bit more realistic about what their lives are ought to get a bit more realistic about what their lives are like. about what their lives are like. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! 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How can he say - the PM, that is - his can he say - the PM, that is - his Government can he say - the PM, that is - his Government is can he say - the PM, that is - his Government is doing can he say - the PM, that is - his Government is doing well can he say - the PM, that is - his Government is doing well for can he say - the PM, that is - his Government is doing well for New Government is doing well for New Zealand's Government is doing well for New Zealand's children Government is doing well for New Zealand's children when Government is doing well for New Zealand's children when we Government is doing well for New Zealand's children when we have Government is doing well for New Zealand's children when we have more Zealand's children when we have more homeless Zealand's children when we have more homeless children Zealand's children when we have more homeless children than Zealand's children when we have more homeless children than ever Zealand's children when we have more homeless children than ever before, homeless children than ever before, including, homeless children than ever before, including, now, homeless children than ever before, including, now, children homeless children than ever before, including, now, children living including, now, children living under including, now, children living under tarpaulins? including, now, children living under tarpaulins? As including, now, children living under tarpaulins? As I including, now, children living under tarpaulins? As I mentioned under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I think under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I think the under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I think the member, under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I think the member, or under tarpaulins? As I mentioned when I think the member, or someone when I think the member, or someone else, when I think the member, or someone else, raised when I think the member, or someone else, raised a when I think the member, or someone else, raised a case when I think the member, or someone else, raised a case yesterday, else, raised a case yesterday, apparently, else, raised a case yesterday, apparently, that else, raised a case yesterday, apparently, that there's else, raised a case yesterday, apparently, that there's some apparently, that there's some children apparently, that there's some children living apparently, that there's some children living under apparently, that there's some children living under a apparently, that there's some children living under a tarpaulin children living under a tarpaulin somewhere children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - this children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - this is children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - this is a children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - this is a country children living under a tarpaulin somewhere - this is a country that somewhere - this is a country that has somewhere - this is a country that has the somewhere - this is a country that has the resources somewhere - this is a country that has the resources to somewhere - this is a country that has the resources to be somewhere - this is a country that has the resources to be able somewhere - this is a country that has the resources to be able to somewhere - this is a country that has the resources to be able to meet has the resources to be able to meet that has the resources to be able to meet that kind has the resources to be able to meet that kind of has the resources to be able to meet that kind of very has the resources to be able to meet that kind of very serious has the resources to be able to meet that kind of very serious housing that kind of very serious housing need. that kind of very serious housing need. And that kind of very serious housing need. And of that kind of very serious housing need. And of course, that kind of very serious housing need. And of course, rising that kind of very serious housing need. And of course, rising house need. And of course, rising house prices need. And of course, rising house prices have need. And of course, rising house prices have put need. And of course, rising house prices have put some need. And of course, rising house prices have put some pressure need. And of course, rising house prices have put some pressure on prices have put some pressure on housing prices have put some pressure on housing costs prices have put some pressure on housing costs and prices have put some pressure on housing costs and families. prices have put some pressure on housing costs and families. That prices have put some pressure on housing costs and families. That is housing costs and families. That is why housing costs and families. That is why we housing costs and families. That is why we look housing costs and families. That is why we look forward housing costs and families. That is why we look forward to housing costs and families. That is why we look forward to the housing costs and families. That is why we look forward to the Labour why we look forward to the Labour Party's why we look forward to the Labour Party's support why we look forward to the Labour Party's support for why we look forward to the Labour Party's support for the why we look forward to the Labour Party's support for the changes why we look forward to the Labour Party's support for the changes in Party's support for the changes in the Party's support for the changes in the Resource Party's support for the changes in the Resource Management Party's support for the changes in the Resource Management Act, Party's support for the changes in the Resource Management Act, other the Resource Management Act, other changes the Resource Management Act, other changes in the Resource Management Act, other changes in local the Resource Management Act, other changes in local government, the Resource Management Act, other changes in local government, to the Resource Management Act, other changes in local government, to make changes in local government, to make sure changes in local government, to make sure we changes in local government, to make sure we can changes in local government, to make sure we can get changes in local government, to make sure we can get more changes in local government, to make sure we can get more houses changes in local government, to make sure we can get more houses on changes in local government, to make sure we can get more houses on the sure we can get more houses on the ground sure we can get more houses on the ground faster, sure we can get more houses on the ground faster, because sure we can get more houses on the ground faster, because that's sure we can get more houses on the ground faster, because that's what ground faster, because that's what those ground faster, because that's what those families ground faster, because that's what those families need. ground faster, because that's what those families need. Is ground faster, because that's what those families need. Is he ground faster, because that's what those families need. Is he satisfied those families need. Is he satisfied that, those families need. Is he satisfied that, in those families need. Is he satisfied that, in the those families need. Is he satisfied that, in the Nationals' those families need. Is he satisfied that, in the Nationals' ninth those families need. Is he satisfied that, in the Nationals' ninth year that, in the Nationals' ninth year in that, in the Nationals' ninth year in Government, that, in the Nationals' ninth year in Government, more that, in the Nationals' ninth year in Government, more than that, in the Nationals' ninth year in Government, more than 41,000 in Government, more than 41,000 children in Government, more than 41,000 children are in Government, more than 41,000 children are admitted in Government, more than 41,000 children are admitted to in Government, more than 41,000 children are admitted to hospital children are admitted to hospital with children are admitted to hospital with diseases children are admitted to hospital with diseases linked children are admitted to hospital with diseases linked to children are admitted to hospital with diseases linked to hardship? with diseases linked to hardship? When with diseases linked to hardship? When will with diseases linked to hardship? When will he with diseases linked to hardship? When will he accept with diseases linked to hardship? When will he accept that with diseases linked to hardship? When will he accept that his with diseases linked to hardship? When will he accept that his cuts with diseases linked to hardship? When will he accept that his cuts to When will he accept that his cuts to health When will he accept that his cuts to health services When will he accept that his cuts to health services are When will he accept that his cuts to health services are causing When will he accept that his cuts to health services are causing this health services are causing this problem? health services are causing this problem? Mr health services are causing this problem? Mr No. health services are causing this problem? Mr No. In health services are causing this problem? Mr No. In fact, health services are causing this problem? Mr No. In fact, a health services are causing this problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature of problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature of this problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature of this Government's problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature of this Government's pursuit problem? Mr No. In fact, a feature of this Government's pursuit of of this Government's pursuit of social of this Government's pursuit of social policy of this Government's pursuit of social policy is of this Government's pursuit of social policy is relentless social policy is relentless dissatisfaction. social policy is relentless dissatisfaction. There's social policy is relentless dissatisfaction. There's always social policy is relentless dissatisfaction. There's always more dissatisfaction. There's always more that dissatisfaction. There's always more that can dissatisfaction. There's always more that can be dissatisfaction. There's always more that can be done, dissatisfaction. There's always more that can be done, particularly dissatisfaction. There's always more that can be done, particularly for that can be done, particularly for our that can be done, particularly for our most that can be done, particularly for our most complex that can be done, particularly for our most complex and that can be done, particularly for our most complex and vulnerable our most complex and vulnerable families. our most complex and vulnerable families. So, our most complex and vulnerable families. So, for our most complex and vulnerable families. So, for instance, our most complex and vulnerable families. So, for instance, in our most complex and vulnerable families. So, for instance, in the families. So, for instance, in the case families. So, for instance, in the case of families. So, for instance, in the case of hospital families. So, for instance, in the case of hospital admissions, families. So, for instance, in the case of hospital admissions, the case of hospital admissions, the rheumatic case of hospital admissions, the rheumatic fever case of hospital admissions, the rheumatic fever project case of hospital admissions, the rheumatic fever project has case of hospital admissions, the rheumatic fever project has been rheumatic fever project has been pretty rheumatic fever project has been pretty successful. rheumatic fever project has been pretty successful. We've rheumatic fever project has been pretty successful. We've cut pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic fever pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic fever rates pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic fever rates by pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic fever rates by around pretty successful. We've cut rheumatic fever rates by around 40% rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over three rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over three years, rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over three years, with rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over three years, with a rheumatic fever rates by around 40% over three years, with a pretty over three years, with a pretty complex over three years, with a pretty complex set over three years, with a pretty complex set of over three years, with a pretty complex set of solutions, over three years, with a pretty complex set of solutions, and over three years, with a pretty complex set of solutions, and we're complex set of solutions, and we're going complex set of solutions, and we're going to complex set of solutions, and we're going to continue complex set of solutions, and we're going to continue down complex set of solutions, and we're going to continue down that complex set of solutions, and we're going to continue down that path going to continue down that path with going to continue down that path with that going to continue down that path with that particular going to continue down that path with that particular problem, going to continue down that path with that particular problem, and with that particular problem, and cut with that particular problem, and cut hospital with that particular problem, and cut hospital admissions. with that particular problem, and cut hospital admissions. When with that particular problem, and cut hospital admissions. When we cut hospital admissions. When we have cut hospital admissions. When we have 90,000 cut hospital admissions. When we have 90,000 children cut hospital admissions. When we have 90,000 children in cut hospital admissions. When we have 90,000 children in New cut hospital admissions. When we have 90,000 children in New Zealand have 90,000 children in New Zealand living have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in the have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in the worst have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in the worst kind have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in the worst kind of have 90,000 children in New Zealand living in the worst kind of poverty, living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it time living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it time that living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it time that he living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it time that he showed living in the worst kind of poverty, isn't it time that he showed some isn't it time that he showed some leadership, isn't it time that he showed some leadership, put isn't it time that he showed some leadership, put politics isn't it time that he showed some leadership, put politics aside, isn't it time that he showed some leadership, put politics aside, and leadership, put politics aside, and picked leadership, put politics aside, and picked up leadership, put politics aside, and picked up the leadership, put politics aside, and picked up the Children's picked up the Children's Commissioner picked up the Children's Commissioner call picked up the Children's Commissioner call to picked up the Children's Commissioner call to let picked up the Children's Commissioner call to let a Commissioner call to let a cross-party Commissioner call to let a cross-party plan Commissioner call to let a cross-party plan to Commissioner call to let a cross-party plan to reduce Commissioner call to let a cross-party plan to reduce child cross-party plan to reduce child poverty cross-party plan to reduce child poverty in cross-party plan to reduce child poverty in New cross-party plan to reduce child poverty in New Zealand? cross-party plan to reduce child poverty in New Zealand? 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Order! Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Prime Minister: Does Prime Minister: Does he Prime Minister: Does he stand Prime Minister: Does he stand by Does he stand by all Does he stand by all his Does he stand by all his statements? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes. Mr Speaker, yes. How Mr Speaker, yes. How could Mr Speaker, yes. How could he Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in his Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in his PM's Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in his PM's Statement Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in his PM's Statement that Mr Speaker, yes. How could he say in his PM's Statement that he Mr Speaker, yes. 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There is ongoing discussion about the way that the discussion about the way that the objectives discussion about the way that the objectives the discussion about the way that the objectives the member's discussion about the way that the objectives the member's referring discussion about the way that the objectives the member's referring to objectives the member's referring to are objectives the member's referring to are achieved objectives the member's referring to are achieved in objectives the member's referring to are achieved in that objectives the member's referring to are achieved in that bill. objectives the member's referring to are achieved in that bill. The are achieved in that bill. The Government are achieved in that bill. The Government believes are achieved in that bill. The Government believes that are achieved in that bill. The Government believes that we've are achieved in that bill. The Government believes that we've gone Government believes that we've gone a Government believes that we've gone a long Government believes that we've gone a long way Government believes that we've gone a long way to Government believes that we've gone a long way to recognising Government believes that we've gone a long way to recognising the Government believes that we've gone a long way to recognising the fact a long way to recognising the fact that a long way to recognising the fact that many a long way to recognising the fact that many Maori a long way to recognising the fact that many Maori children a long way to recognising the fact that many Maori children are a long way to recognising the fact that many Maori children are in that many Maori children are in state that many Maori children are in state care that many Maori children are in state care and that many Maori children are in state care and that that many Maori children are in state care and that that that many Maori children are in state care and that that system state care and that that system should state care and that that system should be state care and that that system should be very state care and that that system should be very responsive state care and that that system should be very responsive to state care and that that system should be very responsive to and should be very responsive to and respectful should be very responsive to and respectful of should be very responsive to and respectful of their should be very responsive to and respectful of their whakapapa should be very responsive to and respectful of their whakapapa and respectful of their whakapapa and their respectful of their whakapapa and their whanua. respectful of their whakapapa and their whanua. 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Just how exactly that is captured in legislation has been is captured in legislation has been the is captured in legislation has been the subject is captured in legislation has been the subject of is captured in legislation has been the subject of a is captured in legislation has been the subject of a lot is captured in legislation has been the subject of a lot of is captured in legislation has been the subject of a lot of discussion the subject of a lot of discussion and the subject of a lot of discussion and no the subject of a lot of discussion and no doubt the subject of a lot of discussion and no doubt there the subject of a lot of discussion and no doubt there will the subject of a lot of discussion and no doubt there will be the subject of a lot of discussion and no doubt there will be more. 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The whakapapa in this new design? The member whakapapa in this new design? The member has whakapapa in this new design? The member has the whakapapa in this new design? The member has the opportunity whakapapa in this new design? The member has the opportunity to whakapapa in this new design? The member has the opportunity to look member has the opportunity to look at member has the opportunity to look at the member has the opportunity to look at the legislation member has the opportunity to look at the legislation and member has the opportunity to look at the legislation and decide member has the opportunity to look at the legislation and decide for at the legislation and decide for herself at the legislation and decide for herself whether at the legislation and decide for herself whether that's at the legislation and decide for herself whether that's a at the legislation and decide for herself whether that's a correct herself whether that's a correct assessment. herself whether that's a correct assessment. I herself whether that's a correct assessment. I would herself whether that's a correct assessment. I would say herself whether that's a correct assessment. I would say it herself whether that's a correct assessment. I would say it isn't, assessment. I would say it isn't, but assessment. I would say it isn't, but we assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do share assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do share with assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do share with the assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do share with the Maori assessment. I would say it isn't, but we do share with the Maori Party but we do share with the Maori Party is but we do share with the Maori Party is strong but we do share with the Maori Party is strong desire but we do share with the Maori Party is strong desire to but we do share with the Maori Party is strong desire to change but we do share with the Maori Party is strong desire to change what but we do share with the Maori Party is strong desire to change what has is strong desire to change what has happened is strong desire to change what has happened to is strong desire to change what has happened to so is strong desire to change what has happened to so many is strong desire to change what has happened to so many of is strong desire to change what has happened to so many of our is strong desire to change what has happened to so many of our most happened to so many of our most vulnerable happened to so many of our most vulnerable children. happened to so many of our most vulnerable children. New happened to so many of our most vulnerable children. New Zealand happened to so many of our most vulnerable children. New Zealand can vulnerable children. New Zealand can do vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a better vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a better job vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a better job and vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a better job and under vulnerable children. New Zealand can do a better job and under this do a better job and under this Government do a better job and under this Government we do a better job and under this Government we will do a better job and under this Government we will do do a better job and under this Government we will do a do a better job and under this Government we will do a better do a better job and under this Government we will do a better job Government we will do a better job and Government we will do a better job and after Government we will do a better job and after a Government we will do a better job and after a number Government we will do a better job and after a number of Government we will do a better job and after a number of years Government we will do a better job and after a number of years of Government we will do a better job and after a number of years of very and after a number of years of very hard and after a number of years of very hard work, and after a number of years of very hard work, to and after a number of years of very hard work, to which and after a number of years of very hard work, to which a and after a number of years of very hard work, to which a lot and after a number of years of very hard work, to which a lot of and after a number of years of very hard work, to which a lot of people hard work, to which a lot of people have hard work, to which a lot of people have contributed hard work, to which a lot of people have contributed with hard work, to which a lot of people have contributed with Goodwill hard work, to which a lot of people have contributed with Goodwill on hard work, to which a lot of people have contributed with Goodwill on 1 have contributed with Goodwill on 1 April have contributed with Goodwill on 1 April the have contributed with Goodwill on 1 April the new have contributed with Goodwill on 1 April the new organisation have contributed with Goodwill on 1 April the new organisation will April the new organisation will begin April the new organisation will begin starting April the new organisation will begin starting a April the new organisation will begin starting a period April the new organisation will begin starting a period of April the new organisation will begin starting a period of another begin starting a period of another three begin starting a period of another three or begin starting a period of another three or four begin starting a period of another three or four years begin starting a period of another three or four years of begin starting a period of another three or four years of significant three or four years of significant change. three or four years of significant change. In three or four years of significant change. In the three or four years of significant change. In the end three or four years of significant change. In the end this three or four years of significant change. In the end this is change. In the end this is fundamentally change. In the end this is fundamentally about change. In the end this is fundamentally about protecting change. In the end this is fundamentally about protecting our fundamentally about protecting our children fundamentally about protecting our children better, fundamentally about protecting our children better, particularly fundamentally about protecting our children better, particularly those children better, particularly those who children better, particularly those who are children better, particularly those who are most children better, particularly those who are most at children better, particularly those who are most at risk. children better, particularly those who are most at risk. Will children better, particularly those who are most at risk. Will he children better, particularly those who are most at risk. Will he push who are most at risk. Will he push ahead who are most at risk. Will he push ahead with who are most at risk. Will he push ahead with removing who are most at risk. Will he push ahead with removing the who are most at risk. Will he push ahead with removing the requirement ahead with removing the requirement to ahead with removing the requirement to prioritise ahead with removing the requirement to prioritise placing ahead with removing the requirement to prioritise placing tamariki ahead with removing the requirement to prioritise placing tamariki Maori to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within their to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within their own to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within their own whanua to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within their own whanua hapu to prioritise placing tamariki Maori within their own whanua hapu what within their own whanua hapu what iwi, within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite it within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite it being within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite it being said within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite it being said to within their own whanua hapu what iwi, despite it being said to be iwi, despite it being said to be creating iwi, despite it being said to be creating a iwi, despite it being said to be creating a new iwi, despite it being said to be creating a new stolen iwi, despite it being said to be creating a new stolen generation, creating a new stolen generation, surely creating a new stolen generation, surely a creating a new stolen generation, surely a pretty creating a new stolen generation, surely a pretty fundamental surely a pretty fundamental disagreement? surely a pretty fundamental disagreement? I surely a pretty fundamental disagreement? I acknowledge surely a pretty fundamental disagreement? I acknowledge that disagreement? I acknowledge that when disagreement? I acknowledge that when we're disagreement? I acknowledge that when we're dealing disagreement? I acknowledge that when we're dealing with disagreement? I acknowledge that when we're dealing with issues when we're dealing with issues related when we're dealing with issues related to when we're dealing with issues related to our when we're dealing with issues related to our children when we're dealing with issues related to our children and when we're dealing with issues related to our children and the related to our children and the awful related to our children and the awful circumstances related to our children and the awful circumstances in related to our children and the awful circumstances in which related to our children and the awful circumstances in which the awful circumstances in which the state awful circumstances in which the state would awful circumstances in which the state would take awful circumstances in which the state would take them awful circumstances in which the state would take them from awful circumstances in which the state would take them from their state would take them from their family, state would take them from their family, bearing state would take them from their family, bearing in state would take them from their family, bearing in mind state would take them from their family, bearing in mind it's state would take them from their family, bearing in mind it's a state would take them from their family, bearing in mind it's a rare family, bearing in mind it's a rare and family, bearing in mind it's a rare and very family, bearing in mind it's a rare and very unfortunate family, bearing in mind it's a rare and very unfortunate occurrence, and very unfortunate occurrence, that and very unfortunate occurrence, that in and very unfortunate occurrence, that in those and very unfortunate occurrence, that in those circumstances and very unfortunate occurrence, that in those circumstances some that in those circumstances some strong that in those circumstances some strong words that in those circumstances some strong words are that in those circumstances some strong words are going that in those circumstances some strong words are going to that in those circumstances some strong words are going to be that in those circumstances some strong words are going to be spoken. strong words are going to be spoken. I strong words are going to be spoken. I don't strong words are going to be spoken. I don't happen strong words are going to be spoken. I don't happen to strong words are going to be spoken. I don't happen to agree strong words are going to be spoken. I don't happen to agree with strong words are going to be spoken. I don't happen to agree with the I don't happen to agree with the member's I don't happen to agree with the member's description I don't happen to agree with the member's description of I don't happen to agree with the member's description of either I don't happen to agree with the member's description of either side member's description of either side of member's description of either side of the member's description of either side of the argument. Does Does he Does he agree Does he agree that Does he agree that the Does he agree that the Government Does he agree that the Government is Does he agree that the Government is breaching Does he agree that the Government is breaching Titirik Does he agree that the Government is breaching Titirik by Does he agree that the Government is breaching Titirik by cutting Does he agree that the Government is breaching Titirik by cutting across breaching Titirik by cutting across Rartiratang breaching Titirik by cutting across Rartiratang and breaching Titirik by cutting across Rartiratang and putting breaching Titirik by cutting across Rartiratang and putting things breaching Titirik by cutting across Rartiratang and putting things at Rartiratang and putting things at risk Rartiratang and putting things at risk as Rartiratang and putting things at risk as the Rartiratang and putting things at risk as the Maori Rartiratang and putting things at risk as the Maori women's Rartiratang and putting things at risk as the Maori women's welfare risk as the Maori women's welfare league risk as the Maori women's welfare league said risk as the Maori women's welfare league said to risk as the Maori women's welfare league said to the risk as the Maori women's welfare league said to the Waitangi risk as the Maori women's welfare league said to the Waitangi welfare league said to the Waitangi welfare tribunal league said to the Waitangi welfare tribunal against league said to the Waitangi welfare tribunal against these league said to the Waitangi welfare tribunal against these policies? league said to the Waitangi welfare tribunal against these policies? Mr tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, no, tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, no, I tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, no, I don't tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, no, I don't agree tribunal against these policies? Mr Speaker, no, I don't agree with Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I think Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I think it Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I think it is Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I think it is fair Speaker, no, I don't agree with that, nor do I think it is fair to that, nor do I think it is fair to characterise that, nor do I think it is fair to characterise any that, nor do I think it is fair to characterise any number that, nor do I think it is fair to characterise any number of that, nor do I think it is fair to characterise any number of these characterise any number of these groups characterise any number of these groups as characterise any number of these groups as fend characterise any number of these groups as fend mentally characterise any number of these groups as fend mentally opposed characterise any number of these groups as fend mentally opposed to groups as fend mentally opposed to the groups as fend mentally opposed to the policy. groups as fend mentally opposed to the policy. Many groups as fend mentally opposed to the policy. Many of groups as fend mentally opposed to the policy. Many of them groups as fend mentally opposed to the policy. Many of them have the policy. Many of them have participated the policy. Many of them have participated because the policy. Many of them have participated because they the policy. Many of them have participated because they know the policy. Many of them have participated because they know in participated because they know in nitty participated because they know in nitty gritty participated because they know in nitty gritty detail participated because they know in nitty gritty detail what participated because they know in nitty gritty detail what has participated because they know in nitty gritty detail what has gone nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong so nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong so they nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong so they have nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong so they have participated nitty gritty detail what has gone wrong so they have participated in wrong so they have participated in the wrong so they have participated in the whole wrong so they have participated in the whole process wrong so they have participated in the whole process of wrong so they have participated in the whole process of setting wrong so they have participated in the whole process of setting out wrong so they have participated in the whole process of setting out to the whole process of setting out to put the whole process of setting out to put it the whole process of setting out to put it right the whole process of setting out to put it right and the whole process of setting out to put it right and change the whole process of setting out to put it right and change the the whole process of setting out to put it right and change the system. put it right and change the system. It put it right and change the system. It happens put it right and change the system. It happens at put it right and change the system. It happens at that put it right and change the system. It happens at that change, put it right and change the system. It happens at that change, against It happens at that change, against the It happens at that change, against the background It happens at that change, against the background of It happens at that change, against the background of an It happens at that change, against the background of an enormous It happens at that change, against the background of an enormous amount the background of an enormous amount of the background of an enormous amount of good the background of an enormous amount of good will the background of an enormous amount of good will and the background of an enormous amount of good will and surprising the background of an enormous amount of good will and surprising breadth of good will and surprising breadth of of good will and surprising breadth of consensus of good will and surprising breadth of consensus about of good will and surprising breadth of consensus about radical of good will and surprising breadth of consensus about radical change, of consensus about radical change, the of consensus about radical change, the most of consensus about radical change, the most radical of consensus about radical change, the most radical change of consensus about radical change, the most radical change in of consensus about radical change, the most radical change in care of consensus about radical change, the most radical change in care of the most radical change in care of our the most radical change in care of our children the most radical change in care of our children in the most radical change in care of our children in decades, the most radical change in care of our children in decades, there the most radical change in care of our children in decades, there are our children in decades, there are some our children in decades, there are some issues our children in decades, there are some issues about our children in decades, there are some issues about how our children in decades, there are some issues about how the our children in decades, there are some issues about how the intent our children in decades, there are some issues about how the intent is some issues about how the intent is expressed some issues about how the intent is expressed in some issues about how the intent is expressed in the some issues about how the intent is expressed in the legislation some issues about how the intent is expressed in the legislation but expressed in the legislation but actually expressed in the legislation but actually we expressed in the legislation but actually we have expressed in the legislation but actually we have very expressed in the legislation but actually we have very similar expressed in the legislation but actually we have very similar intent actually we have very similar intent and actually we have very similar intent and I actually we have very similar intent and I don't actually we have very similar intent and I don't actually actually we have very similar intent and I don't actually agree actually we have very similar intent and I don't actually agree with actually we have very similar intent and I don't actually agree with the and I don't actually agree with the characterisations and I don't actually agree with the characterisations of and I don't actually agree with the characterisations of Government characterisations of Government policy. As As he As he is As he is concerned As he is concerned that As he is concerned that his As he is concerned that his old As he is concerned that his old friend, As he is concerned that his old friend, the As he is concerned that his old friend, the former As he is concerned that his old friend, the former co-leader As he is concerned that his old friend, the former co-leader of As he is concerned that his old friend, the former co-leader of the friend, the former co-leader of the Labour friend, the former co-leader of the Labour part, friend, the former co-leader of the Labour part, Dame friend, the former co-leader of the Labour part, Dame Turea, friend, the former co-leader of the Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing friend, the former co-leader of the Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the contents Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the contents of Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the contents of the Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the contents of the legislation Labour part, Dame Turea, knowing the contents of the legislation is contents of the legislation is threatening contents of the legislation is threatening to contents of the legislation is threatening to march contents of the legislation is threatening to march on contents of the legislation is threatening to march on parliament threatening to march on parliament again threatening to march on parliament again saying, threatening to march on parliament again saying, "If threatening to march on parliament again saying, "If we threatening to march on parliament again saying, "If we can threatening to march on parliament again saying, "If we can walk threatening to march on parliament again saying, "If we can walk for again saying, "If we can walk for your again saying, "If we can walk for your land, again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if we again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if we can again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if we can walk again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if we can walk for again saying, "If we can walk for your land, if we can walk for our your land, if we can walk for our foreshore your land, if we can walk for our foreshore we your land, if we can walk for our foreshore we can your land, if we can walk for our foreshore we can certainly your land, if we can walk for our foreshore we can certainly act your land, if we can walk for our foreshore we can certainly act for foreshore we can certainly act for our foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." Of foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." Of course foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." Of course I foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." Of course I will foreshore we can certainly act for our tamariki." Of course I will be our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about anyone our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about anyone who our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about anyone who is our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about anyone who is that our tamariki." Of course I will be concerned about anyone who is that - concerned about anyone who is that - who concerned about anyone who is that - who is concerned about anyone who is that - who is as concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus as concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus as as concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus as as the concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus as as the Dame concerned about anyone who is that - who is as focus as as the Dame on who is as focus as as the Dame on the who is as focus as as the Dame on the welfare who is as focus as as the Dame on the welfare of who is as focus as as the Dame on the welfare of our who is as focus as as the Dame on the welfare of our children who is as focus as as the Dame on the welfare of our children feeling the welfare of our children feeling that the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That is the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That is why the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That is why it the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That is why it is the welfare of our children feeling that strongly. That is why it is a that strongly. That is why it is a good that strongly. That is why it is a good idea that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for us that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for us to that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for us to make that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for us to make sure that strongly. That is why it is a good idea for us to make sure that good idea for us to make sure that everyone good idea for us to make sure that everyone understands good idea for us to make sure that everyone understands what good idea for us to make sure that everyone understands what is good idea for us to make sure that everyone understands what is at everyone understands what is at stake, everyone understands what is at stake, understands everyone understands what is at stake, understands what everyone understands what is at stake, understands what the everyone understands what is at stake, understands what the actual stake, understands what the actual legislative stake, understands what the actual legislative proposals stake, understands what the actual legislative proposals are, stake, understands what the actual legislative proposals are, because legislative proposals are, because that legislative proposals are, because that is legislative proposals are, because that is not legislative proposals are, because that is not that legislative proposals are, because that is not that well legislative proposals are, because that is not that well understood legislative proposals are, because that is not that well understood but that is not that well understood but the that is not that well understood but the legislation that is not that well understood but the legislation is that is not that well understood but the legislation is available that is not that well understood but the legislation is available for the legislation is available for scrutiny, the legislation is available for scrutiny, participates the legislation is available for scrutiny, participates in the legislation is available for scrutiny, participates in a the legislation is available for scrutiny, participates in a select scrutiny, participates in a select committee scrutiny, participates in a select committee process scrutiny, participates in a select committee process and scrutiny, participates in a select committee process and makes committee process and makes propositions committee process and makes propositions about committee process and makes propositions about how committee process and makes propositions about how they committee process and makes propositions about how they think propositions about how they think these propositions about how they think these issues propositions about how they think these issues can propositions about how they think these issues can be propositions about how they think these issues can be resolved. propositions about how they think these issues can be resolved. I'm these issues can be resolved. I'm sure these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will take these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will take a these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will take a bit these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will take a bit of these issues can be resolved. I'm sure it will take a bit of movement sure it will take a bit of movement to sure it will take a bit of movement to achieve sure it will take a bit of movement to achieve that. sure it will take a bit of movement to achieve that. Ideally, sure it will take a bit of movement to achieve that. Ideally, we sure it will take a bit of movement to achieve that. Ideally, we would to achieve that. Ideally, we would be to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to get to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to get at to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to get at least to achieve that. Ideally, we would be able to get at least significant be able to get at least significant agreement be able to get at least significant agreement on be able to get at least significant agreement on the be able to get at least significant agreement on the way be able to get at least significant agreement on the way forward. 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Today's update also shows that Today's update also shows that deployment Today's update also shows that deployment of Today's update also shows that deployment of the Today's update also shows that deployment of the first Today's update also shows that deployment of the first phase Today's update also shows that deployment of the first phase of Today's update also shows that deployment of the first phase of the deployment of the first phase of the UFB deployment of the first phase of the UFB programme deployment of the first phase of the UFB programme is deployment of the first phase of the UFB programme is 71% deployment of the first phase of the UFB programme is 71% complete deployment of the first phase of the UFB programme is 71% complete with UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns now UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns now fully UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns now fully fibred UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns now fully fibred and UFB programme is 71% complete with 21 towns now fully fibred and over 21 towns now fully fibred and over 300,000 21 towns now fully fibred and over 300,000 rural 21 towns now fully fibred and over 300,000 rural households 21 towns now fully fibred and over 300,000 rural households and 300,000 rural households and businesses 300,000 rural households and businesses now 300,000 rural households and businesses now able 300,000 rural households and businesses now able to 300,000 rural households and businesses now able to access 300,000 rural households and businesses now able to access much businesses now able to access much faster businesses now able to access much faster broadband. 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Given that more houses were built during the mid-2000s than are built during the mid-2000s than are being built during the mid-2000s than are being built built during the mid-2000s than are being built now, built during the mid-2000s than are being built now, how built during the mid-2000s than are being built now, how can built during the mid-2000s than are being built now, how can he built during the mid-2000s than are being built now, how can he blame being built now, how can he blame the being built now, how can he blame the RMA being built now, how can he blame the RMA for being built now, how can he blame the RMA for that being built now, how can he blame the RMA for that decline being built now, how can he blame the RMA for that decline given being built now, how can he blame the RMA for that decline given the the RMA for that decline given the RMA the RMA for that decline given the RMA was the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force back the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force back then, the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force back then, as the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force back then, as it the RMA for that decline given the RMA was in force back then, as it is RMA was in force back then, as it is now, RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and he RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and he has RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and he has already RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and he has already spent RMA was in force back then, as it is now, and he has already spent eight now, and he has already spent eight long now, and he has already spent eight long years now, and he has already spent eight long years blaming now, and he has already spent eight long years blaming everyone now, and he has already spent eight long years blaming everyone else now, and he has already spent eight long years blaming everyone else to long years blaming everyone else to avoid long years blaming everyone else to avoid taking long years blaming everyone else to avoid taking responsibility long years blaming everyone else to avoid taking responsibility for long years blaming everyone else to avoid taking responsibility for the avoid taking responsibility for the housing avoid taking responsibility for the housing crisis avoid taking responsibility for the housing crisis that avoid taking responsibility for the housing crisis that National avoid taking responsibility for the housing crisis that National has housing crisis that National has caused? housing crisis that National has caused? That housing crisis that National has caused? That member housing crisis that National has caused? That member should housing crisis that National has caused? That member should take caused? That member should take responsibility caused? That member should take responsibility for caused? That member should take responsibility for the caused? That member should take responsibility for the very caused? That member should take responsibility for the very specific responsibility for the very specific change responsibility for the very specific change that responsibility for the very specific change that Labour responsibility for the very specific change that Labour made responsibility for the very specific change that Labour made to responsibility for the very specific change that Labour made to the responsibility for the very specific change that Labour made to the RMA change that Labour made to the RMA because change that Labour made to the RMA because in change that Labour made to the RMA because in the change that Labour made to the RMA because in the 2002 change that Labour made to the RMA because in the 2002 amendments, change that Labour made to the RMA because in the 2002 amendments, they because in the 2002 amendments, they determined because in the 2002 amendments, they determined that because in the 2002 amendments, they determined that regional because in the 2002 amendments, they determined that regional policy determined that regional policy statements determined that regional policy statements and determined that regional policy statements and note determined that regional policy statements and note worthy, determined that regional policy statements and note worthy, the statements and note worthy, the tight statements and note worthy, the tight metropolitan statements and note worthy, the tight metropolitan urban statements and note worthy, the tight metropolitan urban limit, tight metropolitan urban limit, tight metropolitan urban limit, tight metropolitan urban limit, actually took tight metropolitan urban limit, actually took dominance tight metropolitan urban limit, actually took dominance over tight metropolitan urban limit, actually took dominance over housing actually took dominance over housing and actually took dominance over housing and that actually took dominance over housing and that actually, actually took dominance over housing and that actually, and actually took dominance over housing and that actually, and the and that actually, and the Productivity and that actually, and the Productivity Commission and that actually, and the Productivity Commission was and that actually, and the Productivity Commission was at and that actually, and the Productivity Commission was at the Productivity Commission was at the core Productivity Commission was at the core of Productivity Commission was at the core of Auckland's Productivity Commission was at the core of Auckland's problems. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! What <INTERRUPTION> Order! What does <INTERRUPTION> Order! What does the <INTERRUPTION> Order! What does the minister <INTERRUPTION> Order! What does the minister say <INTERRUPTION> Order! What does the minister say to Order! What does the minister say to the Order! What does the minister say to the people Order! What does the minister say to the people of Order! What does the minister say to the people of Waimakariri Order! What does the minister say to the people of Waimakariri who Order! What does the minister say to the people of Waimakariri who are the people of Waimakariri who are worried the people of Waimakariri who are worried they the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't be the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't be able the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't be able to the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't be able to have the people of Waimakariri who are worried they won't be able to have a worried they won't be able to have a say worried they won't be able to have a say about worried they won't be able to have a say about a worried they won't be able to have a say about a big worried they won't be able to have a say about a big new worried they won't be able to have a say about a big new carry worried they won't be able to have a say about a big new carry in worried they won't be able to have a say about a big new carry in their say about a big new carry in their neighbourhood say about a big new carry in their neighbourhood because say about a big new carry in their neighbourhood because National neighbourhood because National changed neighbourhood because National changed the neighbourhood because National changed the RMA neighbourhood because National changed the RMA so neighbourhood because National changed the RMA so they neighbourhood because National changed the RMA so they don't neighbourhood because National changed the RMA so they don't have changed the RMA so they don't have to changed the RMA so they don't have to be changed the RMA so they don't have to be consulted? changed the RMA so they don't have to be consulted? The changed the RMA so they don't have to be consulted? The ultimate to be consulted? The ultimate decision to be consulted? The ultimate decision about to be consulted? The ultimate decision about what to be consulted? The ultimate decision about what activities to be consulted? The ultimate decision about what activities are decision about what activities are permitted decision about what activities are permitted in decision about what activities are permitted in a decision about what activities are permitted in a district decision about what activities are permitted in a district such decision about what activities are permitted in a district such as decision about what activities are permitted in a district such as a permitted in a district such as a carry permitted in a district such as a carry rests permitted in a district such as a carry rests with permitted in a district such as a carry rests with councils. permitted in a district such as a carry rests with councils. But permitted in a district such as a carry rests with councils. But where carry rests with councils. But where help carry rests with councils. But where help is carry rests with councils. But where help is on carry rests with councils. But where help is on the carry rests with councils. But where help is on the way carry rests with councils. But where help is on the way is carry rests with councils. But where help is on the way is that carry rests with councils. But where help is on the way is that the carry rests with councils. But where help is on the way is that the new help is on the way is that the new RMA help is on the way is that the new RMA reform help is on the way is that the new RMA reform bill help is on the way is that the new RMA reform bill provides help is on the way is that the new RMA reform bill provides for RMA reform bill provides for standardised RMA reform bill provides for standardised plans RMA reform bill provides for standardised plans so RMA reform bill provides for standardised plans so that RMA reform bill provides for standardised plans so that we RMA reform bill provides for standardised plans so that we can standardised plans so that we can get standardised plans so that we can get a standardised plans so that we can get a greater standardised plans so that we can get a greater degree standardised plans so that we can get a greater degree of standardised plans so that we can get a greater degree of consistency. get a greater degree of consistency. Let get a greater degree of consistency. Let me get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make no get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make no bones get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make no bones about get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make no bones about it, get a greater degree of consistency. Let me make no bones about it, this Let me make no bones about it, this Government's Let me make no bones about it, this Government's ambition Let me make no bones about it, this Government's ambition for Let me make no bones about it, this Government's ambition for the Let me make no bones about it, this Government's ambition for the RMA Let me make no bones about it, this Government's ambition for the RMA is Government's ambition for the RMA is to Government's ambition for the RMA is to support Government's ambition for the RMA is to support jobs, Government's ambition for the RMA is to support jobs, to Government's ambition for the RMA is to support jobs, to support Government's ambition for the RMA is to support jobs, to support new to support jobs, to support new houses to support jobs, to support new houses and to support jobs, to support new houses and to to support jobs, to support new houses and to support to support jobs, to support new houses and to support growth to support jobs, to support new houses and to support growth because houses and to support growth because at houses and to support growth because at the houses and to support growth because at the moment houses and to support growth because at the moment the houses and to support growth because at the moment the RMA houses and to support growth because at the moment the RMA is houses and to support growth because at the moment the RMA is preventing at the moment the RMA is preventing New at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand from at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand from being at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand from being able at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand from being able to at the moment the RMA is preventing New Zealand from being able to make New Zealand from being able to make progress New Zealand from being able to make progress on New Zealand from being able to make progress on those New Zealand from being able to make progress on those fronts. When When his When his current When his current controversial When his current controversial changes When his current controversial changes to When his current controversial changes to the When his current controversial changes to the RMA When his current controversial changes to the RMA further When his current controversial changes to the RMA further reduce changes to the RMA further reduce the changes to the RMA further reduce the public's changes to the RMA further reduce the public's ability changes to the RMA further reduce the public's ability to changes to the RMA further reduce the public's ability to have changes to the RMA further reduce the public's ability to have a changes to the RMA further reduce the public's ability to have a say the public's ability to have a say in the public's ability to have a say in decisions the public's ability to have a say in decisions that the public's ability to have a say in decisions that they the public's ability to have a say in decisions that they care the public's ability to have a say in decisions that they care about, in decisions that they care about, aren't in decisions that they care about, aren't his in decisions that they care about, aren't his reforms in decisions that they care about, aren't his reforms all in decisions that they care about, aren't his reforms all about in decisions that they care about, aren't his reforms all about tilting aren't his reforms all about tilting the aren't his reforms all about tilting the act aren't his reforms all about tilting the act in aren't his reforms all about tilting the act in favour aren't his reforms all about tilting the act in favour of aren't his reforms all about tilting the act in favour of development aren't his reforms all about tilting the act in favour of development and the act in favour of development and against the act in favour of development and against communities the act in favour of development and against communities and the act in favour of development and against communities and the against communities and the environment? against communities and the environment? Yes, against communities and the environment? Yes, the against communities and the environment? Yes, the RMA against communities and the environment? Yes, the RMA reform environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is about environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is about tilting environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is about tilting in environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is about tilting in favour environment? Yes, the RMA reform bill is about tilting in favour of bill is about tilting in favour of more bill is about tilting in favour of more houses bill is about tilting in favour of more houses and bill is about tilting in favour of more houses and it bill is about tilting in favour of more houses and it is bill is about tilting in favour of more houses and it is true bill is about tilting in favour of more houses and it is true that more houses and it is true that members more houses and it is true that members of more houses and it is true that members of the more houses and it is true that members of the Greens more houses and it is true that members of the Greens and more houses and it is true that members of the Greens and the more houses and it is true that members of the Greens and the Labour members of the Greens and the Labour Party members of the Greens and the Labour Party favour members of the Greens and the Labour Party favour consultation members of the Greens and the Labour Party favour consultation and Party favour consultation and appeals Party favour consultation and appeals over Party favour consultation and appeals over people Party favour consultation and appeals over people having Party favour consultation and appeals over people having a Party favour consultation and appeals over people having a roof appeals over people having a roof over appeals over people having a roof over their appeals over people having a roof over their head. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Minister of Finance: Why Minister of Finance: Why did Minister of Finance: Why did he Minister of Finance: Why did he refuse Minister of Finance: Why did he refuse to Minister of Finance: Why did he refuse to allow Why did he refuse to allow public Why did he refuse to allow public consultation public consultation regarding public consultation regarding access public consultation regarding access to public consultation regarding access to Te public consultation regarding access to Te Arai public consultation regarding access to Te Arai Beach regarding access to Te Arai Beach in regarding access to Te Arai Beach in line regarding access to Te Arai Beach in line with regarding access to Te Arai Beach in line with his regarding access to Te Arai Beach in line with his responsibilities in line with his responsibilities under in line with his responsibilities under the under the Crown under the Crown Forest under the Crown Forest Assets under the Crown Forest Assets Act under the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989? The The member The member miss The member miss characterised The member miss characterised the The member miss characterised the matter The member miss characterised the matter a The member miss characterised the matter a little The member miss characterised the matter a little in The member miss characterised the matter a little in this The member miss characterised the matter a little in this question. The member miss characterised the matter a little in this question. It matter a little in this question. It wasn't matter a little in this question. It wasn't the matter a little in this question. It wasn't the case matter a little in this question. It wasn't the case of matter a little in this question. It wasn't the case of refusing matter a little in this question. It wasn't the case of refusing to matter a little in this question. It wasn't the case of refusing to allow wasn't the case of refusing to allow for wasn't the case of refusing to allow for public wasn't the case of refusing to allow for public consultation. wasn't the case of refusing to allow for public consultation. The wasn't the case of refusing to allow for public consultation. The act wasn't the case of refusing to allow for public consultation. The act is for public consultation. The act is quite for public consultation. The act is quite clear, for public consultation. The act is quite clear, and for public consultation. The act is quite clear, and in for public consultation. The act is quite clear, and in this for public consultation. The act is quite clear, and in this case quite clear, and in this case required quite clear, and in this case required that quite clear, and in this case required that the quite clear, and in this case required that the responsible required that the responsible ministers required that the responsible ministers consider required that the responsible ministers consider whether required that the responsible ministers consider whether the ministers consider whether the change ministers consider whether the change significantly ministers consider whether the change significantly affected ministers consider whether the change significantly affected the change significantly affected the public change significantly affected the public access change significantly affected the public access easement. change significantly affected the public access easement. Having public access easement. Having reviewed public access easement. Having reviewed the public access easement. Having reviewed the easement public access easement. Having reviewed the easement proposal public access easement. Having reviewed the easement proposal I'm reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied that reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied that it reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied that it doesn't reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied that it doesn't and, reviewed the easement proposal I'm satisfied that it doesn't and, in satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, it satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, it improves satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, it improves public satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, it improves public access satisfied that it doesn't and, in fact, it improves public access to fact, it improves public access to Te fact, it improves public access to Te Arai fact, it improves public access to Te Arai Beach. What What advice What advice has What advice has he What advice has he received What advice has he received regarding What advice has he received regarding clause What advice has he received regarding clause 21 What advice has he received regarding clause 21 (1) What advice has he received regarding clause 21 (1) bit What advice has he received regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) What advice has he received regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the Crown regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the Crown Forest regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the Crown Forest Assets regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the Crown Forest Assets Act regarding clause 21 (1) bit B) of the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989 the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989 where the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989 where interpretation the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989 where interpretation requires the Crown Forest Assets Act 1989 where interpretation requires the where interpretation requires the responsible where interpretation requires the responsible minister where interpretation requires the responsible minister to where interpretation requires the responsible minister to access responsible minister to access submissions responsible minister to access submissions from responsible minister to access submissions from any responsible minister to access submissions from any person responsible minister to access submissions from any person or submissions from any person or organisation submissions from any person or organisation not submissions from any person or organisation not less submissions from any person or organisation not less than submissions from any person or organisation not less than 40 organisation not less than 40 working organisation not less than 40 working days organisation not less than 40 working days after organisation not less than 40 working days after a organisation not less than 40 working days after a published working days after a published notice working days after a published notice in working days after a published notice in a working days after a published notice in a regional working days after a published notice in a regional newspaper working days after a published notice in a regional newspaper in notice in a regional newspaper in circumstances notice in a regional newspaper in circumstances where notice in a regional newspaper in circumstances where an notice in a regional newspaper in circumstances where an easement notice in a regional newspaper in circumstances where an easement is circumstances where an easement is cancelled? circumstances where an easement is cancelled? Mr circumstances where an easement is cancelled? Mr Speaker, circumstances where an easement is cancelled? Mr Speaker, I circumstances where an easement is cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice in cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice in terms cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice in terms of cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice in terms of how cancelled? Mr Speaker, I did received a vice in terms of how to received a vice in terms of how to respond received a vice in terms of how to respond to received a vice in terms of how to respond to the received a vice in terms of how to respond to the application received a vice in terms of how to respond to the application and received a vice in terms of how to respond to the application and I received a vice in terms of how to respond to the application and I did respond to the application and I did consider respond to the application and I did consider the respond to the application and I did consider the submission respond to the application and I did consider the submission that respond to the application and I did consider the submission that is respond to the application and I did consider the submission that is were consider the submission that is were made. consider the submission that is were made. It consider the submission that is were made. It is consider the submission that is were made. It is important consider the submission that is were made. It is important to consider the submission that is were made. It is important to note consider the submission that is were made. It is important to note that made. It is important to note that the made. It is important to note that the land made. It is important to note that the land is made. It is important to note that the land is iwi made. It is important to note that the land is iwi owned made. It is important to note that the land is iwi owned land made. It is important to note that the land is iwi owned land with made. It is important to note that the land is iwi owned land with a the land is iwi owned land with a public the land is iwi owned land with a public access the land is iwi owned land with a public access easement the land is iwi owned land with a public access easement on the land is iwi owned land with a public access easement on it the land is iwi owned land with a public access easement on it onto the land is iwi owned land with a public access easement on it onto Te public access easement on it onto Te Arai public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. The public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. The iwi public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. The iwi sought public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. The iwi sought a public access easement on it onto Te Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the current Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the current easement Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the current easement to Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the current easement to allow Arai Beach. The iwi sought a change to the current easement to allow for to the current easement to allow for a to the current easement to allow for a larger to the current easement to allow for a larger public to the current easement to allow for a larger public car to the current easement to allow for a larger public car park to the current easement to allow for a larger public car park near to the current easement to allow for a larger public car park near the a larger public car park near the beach a larger public car park near the beach and a larger public car park near the beach and that a larger public car park near the beach and that me a larger public car park near the beach and that me cess a larger public car park near the beach and that me cess Taited a larger public car park near the beach and that me cess Taited a beach and that me cess Taited a realignment beach and that me cess Taited a realignment of beach and that me cess Taited a realignment of park beach and that me cess Taited a realignment of park of beach and that me cess Taited a realignment of park of the beach and that me cess Taited a realignment of park of the public realignment of park of the public accessway realignment of park of the public accessway by realignment of park of the public accessway by around realignment of park of the public accessway by around 25 realignment of park of the public accessway by around 25 metres. realignment of park of the public accessway by around 25 metres. To realignment of park of the public accessway by around 25 metres. To be accessway by around 25 metres. To be clear, accessway by around 25 metres. To be clear, public accessway by around 25 metres. To be clear, public access accessway by around 25 metres. To be clear, public access is accessway by around 25 metres. To be clear, public access is still clear, public access is still guaranteed clear, public access is still guaranteed and, clear, public access is still guaranteed and, in clear, public access is still guaranteed and, in fact, clear, public access is still guaranteed and, in fact, improved guaranteed and, in fact, improved with guaranteed and, in fact, improved with the guaranteed and, in fact, improved with the access guaranteed and, in fact, improved with the access way guaranteed and, in fact, improved with the access way increased guaranteed and, in fact, improved with the access way increased in with the access way increased in width with the access way increased in width from with the access way increased in width from 8m with the access way increased in width from 8m to with the access way increased in width from 8m to 58 with the access way increased in width from 8m to 58 metres with the access way increased in width from 8m to 58 metres for with the access way increased in width from 8m to 58 metres for the width from 8m to 58 metres for the first width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres and width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres and from width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres and from 8m width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres and from 8m to width from 8m to 58 metres for the first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres for first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres for the first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres for the remaining first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres for the remaining 220 first 800 metres and from 8m to 20 metres for the remaining 220 metres. metres for the remaining 220 metres. 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February 2017 to awe Loy public access to the beach. of February 2017 to awe Loy public access to the beach. of the access to the beach. of the question, access to the beach. of the question, Mr access to the beach. of the question, Mr Speaker, access to the beach. of the question, Mr Speaker, because access to the beach. of the question, Mr Speaker, because it access to the beach. of the question, Mr Speaker, because it was question, Mr Speaker, because it was in question, Mr Speaker, because it was in quite question, Mr Speaker, because it was in quite clear question, Mr Speaker, because it was in quite clear that question, Mr Speaker, because it was in quite clear that the question, Mr Speaker, because it was in quite clear that the responsible in quite clear that the responsible minister's in quite clear that the responsible minister's test in quite clear that the responsible minister's test was in quite clear that the responsible minister's test was to in quite clear that the responsible minister's test was to consider minister's test was to consider whether minister's test was to consider whether the minister's test was to consider whether the change minister's test was to consider whether the change significantly whether the change significantly affects whether the change significantly affects the whether the change significantly affects the public whether the change significantly affects the public access whether the change significantly affects the public access easement. affects the public access easement. I affects the public access easement. I reviewed affects the public access easement. I reviewed the affects the public access easement. I reviewed the easement affects the public access easement. I reviewed the easement proposal, I reviewed the easement proposal, and I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm satisfied I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm satisfied that I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm satisfied that it I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm satisfied that it doesn't I reviewed the easement proposal, and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, in and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, in fact, and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, in fact, it and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, in fact, it improves and I'm satisfied that it doesn't - and, in fact, it improves public and, in fact, it improves public access and, in fact, it improves public access to and, in fact, it improves public access to the and, in fact, it improves public access to the beach. and, in fact, it improves public access to the beach. When and, in fact, it improves public access to the beach. When will and, in fact, it improves public access to the beach. When will his access to the beach. When will his Government access to the beach. When will his Government put access to the beach. When will his Government put the access to the beach. When will his Government put the rights access to the beach. When will his Government put the rights of access to the beach. 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Leave is sought to table that particular letter. 2017. Leave is sought to table that particular letter. Is 2017. Leave is sought to table that particular letter. Is there 2017. Leave is sought to table that particular letter. Is there any particular letter. Is there any objection? particular letter. Is there any objection? There particular letter. Is there any objection? There is particular letter. Is there any objection? There is none. particular letter. Is there any objection? There is none. It particular letter. Is there any objection? There is none. It can particular letter. Is there any objection? There is none. It can be objection? There is none. It can be tabled. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 11 objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 11 - objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 11 - Dr objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Question No. 11 - Dr David tabled. Question No. 11 - Dr David Clark. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Economic My question is to the Minister for Economic Development: Minister for Economic Development: Is Minister for Economic Development: Is he Minister for Economic Development: Is he answerable Minister for Economic Development: Is he answerable to Minister for Economic Development: Is he answerable to this Minister for Economic Development: Is he answerable to this House Is he answerable to this House for Is he answerable to this House for the Is he answerable to this House for the more Is he answerable to this House for the more than Is he answerable to this House for the more than $20 Is he answerable to this House for the more than $20 million for the more than $20 million in for the more than $20 million in untendered for the more than $20 million in untendered contracts in untendered contracts at in untendered contracts at the in untendered contracts at the Ministry in untendered contracts at the Ministry of in untendered contracts at the Ministry of Business, at the Ministry of Business, Innovation at the Ministry of Business, Innovation and at the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment Innovation and Employment reported Innovation and Employment reported in Innovation and Employment reported in the Innovation and Employment reported in the previous Innovation and Employment reported in the previous year; reported in the previous year; if reported in the previous year; if so, reported in the previous year; if so, how reported in the previous year; if so, how can reported in the previous year; if so, how can he reported in the previous year; if so, how can he be reported in the previous year; if so, how can he be sure if so, how can he be sure those if so, how can he be sure those contracts if so, how can he be sure those contracts represent those contracts represent best those contracts represent best value those contracts represent best value for those contracts represent best value for money best value for money when best value for money when they best value for money when they weren't best value for money when they weren't tendered? 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Mr Speaker, I am the ownership minister Speaker, I am the ownership minister for Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I think Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I think what Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I think what is Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I think what is true Speaker, I am the ownership minister for MB, and I think what is true is for MB, and I think what is true is that, for MB, and I think what is true is that, for for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a large for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a large entity for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a large entity such for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a large entity such as for MB, and I think what is true is that, for a large entity such as MB that, for a large entity such as MB within that, for a large entity such as MB within Government, that, for a large entity such as MB within Government, it's that, for a large entity such as MB within Government, it's not that, for a large entity such as MB within Government, it's not unusual within Government, it's not unusual - within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I don't within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I don't disapprove within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I don't disapprove of within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I don't disapprove of it within Government, it's not unusual - indeed, I don't disapprove of it - - indeed, I don't disapprove of it - having - indeed, I don't disapprove of it - having contractors, - indeed, I don't disapprove of it - having contractors, consultants, - indeed, I don't disapprove of it - having contractors, consultants, and having contractors, consultants, and using having contractors, consultants, and using them. having contractors, consultants, and using them. 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Does he support spending $1.2 million on a single spending $1.2 million on a single untendered spending $1.2 million on a single untendered contract, spending $1.2 million on a single untendered contract, and spending $1.2 million on a single untendered contract, and is spending $1.2 million on a single untendered contract, and is this spending $1.2 million on a single untendered contract, and is this a untendered contract, and is this a practise untendered contract, and is this a practise he untendered contract, and is this a practise he expects untendered contract, and is this a practise he expects to untendered contract, and is this a practise he expects to continue practise he expects to continue under practise he expects to continue under his practise he expects to continue under his watch? practise he expects to continue under his watch? Order! practise he expects to continue under his watch? Order! The practise he expects to continue under his watch? Order! 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Mr Speaker, I have every confidence that MB has every confidence that MB has followed every confidence that MB has followed the every confidence that MB has followed the rules every confidence that MB has followed the rules of every confidence that MB has followed the rules of procurement every confidence that MB has followed the rules of procurement in followed the rules of procurement in this followed the rules of procurement in this area. followed the rules of procurement in this area. What followed the rules of procurement in this area. What I followed the rules of procurement in this area. What I would followed the rules of procurement in this area. What I would make followed the rules of procurement in this area. What I would make very this area. What I would make very clear this area. What I would make very clear - this area. What I would make very clear - these this area. What I would make very clear - these are this area. 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How will the memorial be enhanced? The Canterbury memorial be enhanced? The Canterbury Earthquake memorial be enhanced? The Canterbury Earthquake National memorial be enhanced? The Canterbury Earthquake National Memorial memorial be enhanced? The Canterbury Earthquake National Memorial will Earthquake National Memorial will provide Earthquake National Memorial will provide a Earthquake National Memorial will provide a place Earthquake National Memorial will provide a place to Earthquake National Memorial will provide a place to reflect Earthquake National Memorial will provide a place to reflect on Earthquake National Memorial will provide a place to reflect on the provide a place to reflect on the events provide a place to reflect on the events that provide a place to reflect on the events that changed provide a place to reflect on the events that changed Canterbury events that changed Canterbury forever events that changed Canterbury forever on events that changed Canterbury forever on 22 events that changed Canterbury forever on 22 February events that changed Canterbury forever on 22 February 2011. events that changed Canterbury forever on 22 February 2011. It events that changed Canterbury forever on 22 February 2011. It pays forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects to forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects to those forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects to those who forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects to those who lost forever on 22 February 2011. It pays respects to those who lost their respects to those who lost their lives, respects to those who lost their lives, to respects to those who lost their lives, to those respects to those who lost their lives, to those who respects to those who lost their lives, to those who were respects to those who lost their lives, to those who were seriously lives, to those who were seriously injured, lives, to those who were seriously injured, and lives, to those who were seriously injured, and to lives, to those who were seriously injured, and to the lives, to those who were seriously injured, and to the first injured, and to the first responders. injured, and to the first responders. 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And that to the families who were affected by the earthquakes. And that concludes the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral Questions. the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral Questions. I the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral Questions. I call the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral Questions. I call on the earthquakes. And that concludes Oral Questions. I call on Government Oral Questions. I call on Government order Oral Questions. I call on Government order of Oral Questions. I call on Government order of the Oral Questions. I call on Government order of the day. Oral Questions. I call on Government order of the day. Adjourned Oral Questions. I call on Government order of the day. Adjourned debate order of the day. Adjourned debate on order of the day. Adjourned debate on the order of the day. Adjourned debate on the PM's order of the day. Adjourned debate on the PM's statement, order of the day. Adjourned debate on the PM's statement, and order of the day. Adjourned debate on the PM's statement, and the on the PM's statement, and the amendment on the PM's statement, and the amendment proposed on the PM's statement, and the amendment proposed to on the PM's statement, and the amendment proposed to it. The The Hon The Hon Dr The Hon Dr Jonathan The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't it The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't it great The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't it great to The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't it great to be The Hon Dr Jonathan Coleman. Mr Speaker, isn't it great to be back Speaker, isn't it great to be back here Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the House Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the House for Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the House for the Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the House for the start Speaker, isn't it great to be back here in the House for the start of here in the House for the start of election here in the House for the start of election a here in the House for the start of election a year? here in the House for the start of election a year? What here in the House for the start of election a year? What a here in the House for the start of election a year? What a time here in the House for the start of election a year? What a time it here in the House for the start of election a year? What a time it is election a year? What a time it is for election a year? 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