We are talking sport tonight. A QUESTION FOR YOU TONIGHT ` SHOULD WE KILL THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES ALTOGETHER? MIKE SAYS YES; I SAY NO. WE'LL HAVE THE DEBATE SHORTLY. ALSO ON THE AGENDA, THIS LOOKS LIKE A BIT OF GOOD OLD-FASHIONED KIWI FUN, RIGHT? BUT WILL A CASE OF BUREAUCRACY GONE MAD RUIN IT FOR EVERYONE? IF A CHILD WERE TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND GET INJURED, THEN, REALLY, I'M VULNERABLE TO BEING PROSECUTED. PLUS, ARE WE SETTING A BAD EXAMPLE FOR OUR KIDS? MOST PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR PHONES EVERYWHERE THEY GO, SO KIDS ARE MIRRORING WHAT THE ADULTS ARE DOING. WE CAN REVEAL THE SURPRISING RESULTS OF A NEW SURVEY INTO KIDS' SCREEN TIME. AND HOW A HUMBLE BLOCK OF CHEESE GAVE ZEV THE INSPIRATION TO TURN HIS LIFE AROUND. 1 NEWS CAPTIONS BY ALEX WALKER AND ASHLEE SCHOLEFIELD. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. SEVEN SHARP CAPTIONS BY VIRGINIA PHILP AND JEAN TENG. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2017 We were having a digital discussion and you think it does not kick in until the age of 11. As a child of two or three years old looking at a screen a problem? WE ALL KNOW BY NOW WE SHOULD BE MONITORING OUR KIDS ON THEIR DEVICES. WE KNOW THAT TOO MUCH SCREEN TIME, WHETHER IT BE ON PHONES OR COMPUTERS, IS NOT GOOD. BUT TONIGHT WE CAN REVEAL THE RESULTS OF A NEW SURVEY THAT FOUND MOST KIWI KIDS HAVE NO LIMITS ON THEIR SCREEN TIME AT HOME AND HAVE LITTLE-TO-NO SUPERVISION. CAROLYN ROBINSON LOOKS INTO IT. KIDS LOVE SCREENS. (TECHNO MUSIC) IT MAKES UP A BIG CHUNK OF THEIR LEARNING BUT AN EVEN BIGGER CHUNK AFTER THE BELL RINGS. (TECHNO MUSIC CONTINUES) DATA RELEASED BY 'CENSUS AT SCHOOL' SHOWS THAT... ...SAY THEY HAVE NO LIMITS PUT ON THEIR SCREEN TIME. THAT RESULT HAS EVEN SURPRISED THE WOMAN BEHIND THE CENSUS. I'VE GOT FOUR YOUNG CHILDREN, AND I THOUGHT EVERY OTHER FAMILY MUST HAVE SOME SORT OF LIMIT ON THEIR SCREEN TIME AND BE ALWAYS SUPERVISING. IT WAS REALLY INTERESTING TO SEE THAT WE'RE IN THE MAJORITY OF FAMILIES. ALONG WITH MUM OF TWO ERIN, WHO AGREES IT'S HARD. IT IS. UNLESS YOU'RE SITTING THERE ALL THE TIME, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. I'M NOT TECH SAVVY ENOUGH TO BE LOOKING AT HISTORY. MY HUSBAND POSSIBLY COULD, BUT HE DOESN'T HAVE THE TIME TO BE CHECKING IT EITHER. THOSE AFTER-SCHOOL HOURS ARE ALSO BUSY FOR MUM EMILY. SHE ADMITS SCREENS CAN BE A HELP. WITH THREE KIDS AND WORKING 30 HOURS A WEEK, IT'S GOOD. I KNOW THAT SOUNDS TERRIBLE. IT'S VERY HARD TO NEGOTIATE WHAT IS A SCREEN TIME LIMIT AND HOW DO YOU MONITOR IT, AND HOW DO YOU TRACK WHAT THEY'RE DOING ` WHETHER IT'S SCHOOLWORK OR IF IT'S JUST PLAYTIME? AND IF YOU'VE GOT SIBLINGS ALL WITH THEIR OWN TIMES, HOW DO YOU MONITOR THEM SEPARATELY? IN THE SURVEY, BEING IN SAME ROOM AS THE CHILDREN COUNTS AS SUPERVISION, BUT ONLY 20% OF RESPONDENTS SAID THAT THIS USUALLY HAPPENED. FOR THOSE CHILDREN WHO DO HAVE LIMITS, PRIMARY SCHOOLERS WERE ALLOWED A MEDIAN OF ONE HOUR, AND SECONDARY STUDENTS WERE ALLOWED TWO. SO, WHICH OF THESE STATS ARE YOU MOST SURPRISED BY? WE KNOW THAT ABOUT 40% OF TEEN BOYS ARE GAMERS. THEY'RE ON THEIR PLAYSTATION OR XBOX. AND A QUARTER OF THEM ARE SPENDING FOUR HOURS OR MORE GAMING. 90% OF TEEN GIRLS ARE ON THEIR CELL PHONES AFTER SCHOOL, AND A QUARTER OF THEM ARE SPENDING 5.5 HOURS OR MORE. SO, BASICALLY, FROM THE TIME THEY GET HOME FROM SCHOOL TO THE TIME THEY GO TO BED, THEY'RE ON THEIR CELL PHONES. KIDS WERE ALSO ASKED IF THEY COULD ONLY HAVE ONE APP, WHAT WOULD IT BE? FOR BOYS ACROSS THE AGE SPECTRUM, YOUTUBE WAS THE WINNER. GIRLS WERE MORE DIVIDED. THE YOUNGER GROUP CHOSE INSTAGRAM, BUT THE HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS ARE ALL ABOUT SNAPCHAT. (TECHNO MUSIC) AND SPEAKING OF HIGH SCHOOL GIRLS, THERE'S ANOTHER STUNNING REVELATION. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS WE ASKED KIDS AND WE'VE ASKED IT IN THE PAST IS WHO'S YOUR FAVOURITE NEW ZEALAND CELEBRITY? AND LAST TIME IT WAS LORDE AND STAN WALKER. WHAT WE'RE STARTING TO SEE IN THE TRENDS IS THAT YOUTUBERS ARE COMING UP THE RANKS. KIDS ARE BECOMING ENAMOURED WITH AND FOLLOW YOUTUBERS ONLINE. EVERYONE, EVERYONE, EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE VLOG. THE MINISTRY OF HEALTH RECOMMENDS THAT OUTSIDE SCHOOL, SCREEN TIME IS KEPT UNDER TWO HOURS. SO HOW DO WE ENFORCE IT? WE'RE USING OUR PHONES AT THE TABLE. MOST PEOPLE ARE USING THEIR PHONES EVERYWHERE THEY GO, SO KIDS ARE MIRRORING WHAT THE ADULTS ARE DOING. I THINK IF WE WANT OUR KIDS TO CHANGE, WE NEED TO START LIMITING OURSELVES FIRST. (TECHNO MUSIC) If you are on your device, your kids emulate that. That only presupposes that it is bad. What do we think of gamers today? It is a whole industry. They are still not exercising and they are in dark rooms. I have five kids through from the age of 10 to 18 and it is an individual thing. Some kids are fascinated and some kids aren't. Some you have to have roles and some you don't. All highs school kids free time, they are online. They have an insatiable hunger to get online and connect. What if you have a teenager who was plugged into sport and a little bit of online and at the end of the day, they go to sleep. Go and kick a ball around or something. My problem with it as I do not think rules are the answer. The more rules you implement, the more trouble you are going to get into. THE PARENTING PLACE GAVE US SOME TIPS. THEY LET YOU CONTROL AND LIMIT WHAT YOUR KIDS ARE LOOKING AT. AND HAVE EVERYONE AGREE ON HOW MUCH TIME YOU ALL SPEND IN FRONT OF SCREENS. AND, FINALLY, LEAD BY EXAMPLE. ...THAN CHECKING YOUR TEXTS OR EMAILS. THE QUESTION OF THE DAY IS 'HOW LONG DO YOU WANT TO KEEP FLOGGING A DEAD HORSE?' THE DEAD HORSE IN THIS CASE IS THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES. DURBAN HAS LOST THE RIGHTS BECAUSE, GUESS WHAT, SOUTH AFRICA IS AN ECONOMIC BASKET CASE AND WAS NEVER IN ANY SORT OF POSITION TO BID FOR SUCH AN EVENT. MAKING IT WORSE AND EVEN MORE OBVIOUS FOR ANY REALIST WHO WANTED TO LOOK WAS THE FACT THEY WERE THE ONLY BIDDERS. SO WHEN YOU'VE GOT A CHOICE OF JUST ONE, WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENS TO THE QUALITY OF THE DECISION-MAKING PROCESS? IT GOES OUT THE WINDOW. SO LET'S CALL THIS FOR WHAT IT IS ` AN ANACHRONISTIC NONSENSE THAT WE CAN FINALLY PUT OUT OF ITS MISERY. THE COMMONWEALTH ITSELF IS ON THE WAY OUT, AND THE GAMES ` BOTH IN ORGANISATION AND QUALITY ` IS CLEARLY LEADING THE WAY. IT'S YESTERDAY'S EVENT, REPRESENTING A BYGONE ERA, AND WE CAN SAVE OURSELVES A LOT OF TIME, MONEY AND ANGSTING BY MAKING NEXT YEAR'S EVENT ON THE GOLD COAST THE LAST. SEE, I'M ALL FOR THE GAMES CONTINUING, AND HERE'S WHY. THEY'RE PART OF OUR HISTORY. THERE'S ONLY TWO OCCASIONS WHERE MINORITY SPORTS LIKE DIVING, GYMNASTICS AND WEIGHTLIFTING TRULY GET THE RECOGNITION AND MEDIA COVERAGE THOSE HARD-WORKING ATHLETES DESERVE ` THE OLYMPICS AND THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES. TAKE THE COMM GAMES AWAY, AND IT'S A LONG TIME BETWEEN DRINKS, ESPECIALLY FOR THOSE YOUNG ATHLETES WE'RE TRYING TO BLOOD. WE MIGHT QUERY ITS RELEVANCE IN THE YEARS IN-BETWEEN, AND I AGREE IT'S NO LONGER THE ABSOLUTE PINNACLE, BUT EVERY TIME IT COMES AROUND, US KIWIS ARE GLUED TO OUR TELES. WE CELEBRATE EACH GOLD MEDAL WITH PRIDE, AND IT BRINGS THE COUNTRY TOGETHER. IN A WORLD WHERE SPORT IS BECOMING INCREASINGLY COMMERCIALISED, THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES FEELS LIKE A BIT OF A THROWBACK TO THE WAY IT WAS, AND THAT IS WORTH HOLDING ON TO. What happens when no one bids? Someone will pick it up. Know they haven't. I feel like the debate today was not just about economic sense but whether it has relevance as a competition. Who hosts the games when no one bids? This is my plea to people out there. If we did everything on just the money, we would have nothing. It is so true. OK, SO DURBAN'S OUT, AND AUCKLAND'S PLEADING POVERTY. THE PROBLEM SEEMS TO BE EXPENSE, WHICH GOT US THINKING ` HOW CHEAP CAN WE DO THIS FOR? TIM WILSON IS THE TIGHTEST PERSON ON THE SEVEN SHARP TEAM, SO WE GOT HIM WORKING ON IT. HERE'S THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES: HOMEBRAND EDITION. (ROCK MUSIC) THE BATON HEADS OFF FOR THE COMMONWEALTH GAMES, GC STYLE. BUT WITH DURBAN 2022 NOW SWERVIN', AND AUCKLAND OUT BECAUSE THIS ATHLETES' ACCOMMODATION WAS GOING TO COST $400M, WE NEED SOME BRIGHT IDEAS. PRESENTING... (CHEERING, APPLAUSE) THAT'S GOING TO COST MONEY. SOFT, BUT ` WHOO ` CHEAP! THAT'S GOING TO BLOW THE BUDGET. I NOW DECLARE THE DAD-JOKE GAMES CLOSED. (CHEERING) Next year on the Gold Coast, it will be a smash hit. Depends what you define by smash hit. Here was a guys idea today. Take a bunch of countries and you basically rotate them. Look at the cities that can afford it. You will be accused of discriminating then. If you went back to Rio, the place is a dump. Surely they can find a solution. EARLIER IN THE SHOW, WE LEARNT KIDS' SCREEN TIME IS ON THE RISE, SO SURELY THIS SORT OF PLACE IS A GOOD THING. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT JUST ENCAPSULATES KIWI CULTURE, IT'S KIDS OUTSIDE. SO WHY HAS IT JUST GOT A LOT HARDER FOR KIWI KIDS TO HAVE SOME SO WHY HAS IT JUST GOT A LOT HARDER FOR KIWI KIDS TO HAVE SOME GOOD OLD-FASHIONED FUN? PLUS ANOTHER OF TODAY'S BIG TALKING POINTS ` IMMUNISATION. AUSTRALIA WANTS A 'NO JAB, NO PLAY' POLICY. SO DO WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING SIMILAR? WE CRUNCH THE NUMBERS. AND ZEV DIDN'T HAVE MUCH AMBITION... CAREER WASN'T EVEN A WORD IN MY VOCAB. ...BUT HE'S PROOF THAT SOMETIMES ALL WE NEED IS A CHANCE. I JUST WANT MY KIDS TO BE PROUD OF ME. (WHISPERS) There's our manager Neville. He's super picky. (WHISPERS) There's no fault he can't see or crack he won't spot. And no conversation he can't hear. IS OUR ABILITY TO HAVE SOME GOOD OLD-FASHIONED OUTDOOR KIWI FUN BEING RUINED? WELL, THERE'S CONCERN IT MIGHT BE AFTER A BIG SHAKE-UP TO OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY LAWS FOLLOWING THE PIKE RIVER MINE DISASTER. OBVIOUSLY THERE WAS A NEED TO TIGHTEN OUR LEGISLATION, BUT WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THE SMALL-TOWN PLAYERS? WELL, ONE TARANAKI DAIRY FARMER HAS TEMPORARILY CLOSED THE GATES TO HIS DIY ADVENTURE PARK FOR KIDS, BECAUSE HE'S SCARED OF PROSECUTION IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG. REBECCA EDWARDS HEADED TO STRATFORD'S FERNBROOKE FARM TO MEET DAVE. (UPBEAT MUSIC) AH, YES. ON DAVE HUNGER'S STRATFORD FARM, THINGS ARE NOT QUITE AS YOU'D EXPECT. FELT SAFE? FELT COMPLETELY SAFE. FELT LIKE I WAS ABOUT 5 YEARS OLD AGAIN. (LAUGHS) THAT'S BECAUSE DAVE IS BY NO MEANS... COOL THING ABOUT COWS IS THAT THEY CAN PICK THEIR NOSE WITH THEIR TONGUE ` YOU WATCH. ...YOUR AVERAGE DAIRY FARMER. YEAH. WELL, THIS IS GOLIATH. WITH A PASSION FOR INVENTING, HE'S TURNED HIS GREEN FIELDS INTO QUITE THE ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND. SO, YOU WIND IT RIGHT UP LIKE THAT, AND THEN LET IT GO. WHERE HE'S BEEN WELCOMING THE YOUNG... YOU CAN ALMOST IMAGINE YOURSELF GOING DOWN THE RIVER. ALMOST. ...AND THE YOUNG AT HEART, FOR THE PAST FIVE YEARS. IF THERE'S ANYTHING THAT JUST ENCAPSULATES KIWI CULTURE, IT'S KIDS OUTSIDE, SURELY. AWAY FROM SCREENS, AWAY FROM TV, OUTSIDE HAVING FUN. BUT AFTER AN UNNERVING CONVERSATION THIS SUMMER, DAVE'S MADE THE CALL TO TEMPORARILY CLOSE. WELL, IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT BECAUSE EVERYTHING I'VE GOT ON THE FARM IS HOME-BUILT, IT'S NOT CERTIFIED, AND SO TECHNICALLY IT ISN'T UP TO SPEC. AND IF A CHILD WAS TO HAVE AN ACCIDENT AND GET INJURED, THEN, REALLY, I'M VULNERABLE TO BEING PROSECUTED. HE NOW HAS A LIST OF 70 IMPROVEMENTS TO WORK THROUGH... I'M PROBABLY GONNA HAVE TO CUT IT IN HALF AND GET IT CLOSER TO THE GROUND. ...TO GET THINGS UP TO A LEGAL STANDARD. YEP, IN PLACES I'LL PUT UP NETTING, BUT THERE'S ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT SOMEONE COULD SLIP THROUGH THESE SAFETY WIRE THAT ARE HERE. SOME ACTIVITIES THOUGH... PUT TWO HANDS THERE. THIS COULD BE A DISASTER. NO, IT WON'T BE. ...ARE NOT QUITE AS CLEAR CUT AS OTHERS. THERE'S ACTUALLY NOT A LOT IN THE LAW RIGHT NOW ABOUT RIDING COWS, WHAT YOU CAN AND CAN'T DO, PARTICULARLY KEEPING YOURSELF SAFE. AND WHILE THERE'S STILL PLENTY TO SMILE AT ROUND HERE, THE PROCESS HAS LEFT DAVE FEELING PRETTY FRUSTRATED. IT MADE ME REALISE WHEN I CLOSED MY FARM, I WASN'T DOING IT TO KEEP CHILDREN SAFE; I WAS DOING IT TO KEEP MYSELF SAFE FROM PROSECUTION, AND THAT'S ACTUALLY NOT THE FOCUS OF OUR HEALTH AND SAFETY LAWS. WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE THINKING ABOUT OTHERS. BUT BECAUSE THE FINE ARE SO HORRENDOUS, THE NATURAL REACTION, THE NATURAL HUMAN REACTION, IS TO THINK OF YOURSELF AND TO DO WHAT YOU NEED TO DO TO KEEP YOURSELF SAFE FROM PROSECUTION, AND THAT'S A LITTLE BIT WORRYING. I'M NOT SURE THAT OUR CULTURE REALLY WANTS TO GO DOWN THAT PATH. BECAUSE THAT PATH, HE RECKONS, IS LEADING US IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I'M HAPPY TO DO IT. I WANNA KEEP PEOPLE SAFE. BUT I CAN SEE IT CHANGING OUR CULTURE. I CAN SEE PEOPLE ARE SCARED OF HEALTH AND SAFETY. AND IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE TAKING OUR COUNTRY ANYWHERE POSITIVE, WHEN PEOPLE ARE SCARED. DAVE'S PRETTY DETERMINED TO GET THE BOXES TICKED... THE CHIEF ISSUE HERE IS GETTING IT TICKED OFF BY AN ENGINEER. ...AND RE-OPEN BY NEXT SUMMER. (LAUGHS) SUCCESS. BUT HE RECKONS AS A COUNTRY, WE'VE STILL GOT A LOT OF THINKING TO DO IF WE WANNA STRIKE THE RIGHT BALANCE IN KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE. FOR KIWIS TO BE OUTSIDE, INTERACTING WITH NATURE AND COWS AND HAVING GOOD OLD-FASHIONED FUN ON HOME-BUILT SWINGS, I THINK THAT'S WHAT KIWI KIDS ARE ALL ABOUT, AND IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE HANG ON TO THAT AND DON'T LET IT SLIDE. (UPBEAT MUSIC) What kid would not love that? Worksafe has not shut Dave down; he did that of his own accord. You imagine people's reaction if some kid has a time of their life and get seriously injured, what happens then? How do you get around it with the home-made stuff? Hopefully Dave can reopen. You have got to be handy to do those things. You have to have a farm. THE GREAT VACCINATION DEBATE HAS RE-IGNITED ACROSS THE DITCH, WITH PRIME MINISTER MALCOLM TURNBULL PUSHING FOR A 'NO JAB, NO PLAY' POLICY. SO THIS WOULD MEAN UNVACCINATED KIDS WOULD BE BARRED FROM EARLY CHILDHOOD CENTRES. SO WHERE DOES NEW ZEALAND SIT ON THE ISSUE? LET'S LOOK AT THE NUMBERS. OUR GOVERNMENT HAS A TARGET OF 95% OF INFANTS AGED EIGHT MONTHS BEING VACCINATED BY JUNE THIS YEAR. WE CURRENTLY SIT AT 93%. COMPARE THAT TO AUSTRALIA, WHO ARE STILL AROUND THE 85% MARK. THE REGION WITH THE HIGHEST IMMUNISATION UPTAKE IS THE LOWER NORTH ISLAND, WHILE THOSE IN COUNTIES MANUKAU ARE LESS LIKELY TO VACCINATE THEIR KIDS. The health Minister on the news tonight is not for compulsion. I could not work out why. The Ministry of health can actually exclude unvaccinated children if there is an outbreak. Essentially they are saying that is enough. It is a no-brainer and you have to suffer some of the consequences if you go down that route. You cannot put a cat in the cattery without the jabs, so why are you letting kids into the centres? NEXT, MICHAEL HOLLAND'S FOUND A YOUNG KIWI WHO JUST NEEDED SOMEONE TO GIVE HIM A CHANCE. WE'RE IN OUR NORTHERN MOST CITY WHERE WE'VE FOUND A GRINNING GECKO. AND INSIDE, A YOUNG NORTHLANDER WHO STRUGGLED FOR YEARS TO FIND MEANINGFUL EMPLOYMENT. BUT NOW HIS GRIMACE HAS TURNED TO MORE THAN A GRIN ` IT'S ACTUALLY AN INFECTIOUS SMILE. A bit of techno music this evening. NOW HERE'S A STORY TO SEND YOU OFF IN THE RIGHT FRAME OF MIND TONIGHT ` THE YOUNG NORTHLAND FATHER-OF-THREE STRUGGLING TO GET BY DOING SEASONAL WORK. THEN HE ANSWERS AN AD FOR A DISHWASHER FOR AN EMERGING ARTISIAN CHEESEMAKER IN WHANGAREI, AND LET'S JUST SAY HE'S MOVED ON FROM WASHING-UP DETAIL REAL QUICK. YES, TONIGHT HE FINDS HIMSELF AT THE NEW ZEALAND CHAMPIONS OF CHEESE AWARDS. BUT BEFORE ALL OF THAT, MICHAEL HOLLAND HEADED NORTH TO MEET ZEV. FROM BEHIND THE BAKERY AND ALONGSIDE THE DOGGIE DAY CARE, THERE COMES A CONTENDED CHUCKLE. (LAUGHTER) A YOUNG MAN WITH A DOSE OF THE BILLY T'S. (LAUGHTER) HIS NAME'S ZEV. HOW MANY ZEV'S HAVE YOU MET IN YOUR LIFE? NONE. (LAUGHS) AND GOOD REASON HE'S GOT TO BE KINDA UP, KINDA CHUFFED. CAREER WASN'T EVEN A WORD IN MY VOCAB, YOU KNOW. TRULY? YEAH. LIKE, I` I COULDN'T EVEN SEE MYSELF HAVING A CAREER IN ANYTHING. UNTIL HE FELL IN WITH THE 'RIGHT' CROWD. CATHERINE AND JAMES MCNAMARA AND THEIR VERY APT, GIVEN THE CONSTANT SMILES, GRINNING GECKO CHEESE COMPANY. HOW LONG AGO DID YOU KNOW ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT CHEESE? A YEAR AND TWO MONTHS AGO. DIDN'T CARE ABOUT CHEESE? I LIKED IT ON MY TOAST, THAT'S ABOUT IT. COMPLETELY IGNORANT? YES. YOU COULD SAY THAT, YES. WE LITERALLY KEEP HIM AROUND FOR HIS SMILE AND HIS LAUGH. AND A WORK ETHIC THAT TONIGHT SEES ZEV ONE TIME SEASONAL FRUIT PACKER AND REFERRAL FROM WINZ. BEFORE I GOT THIS JOB I WAS PRETTY SAD. I JUST NEEDED SOMEONE TO GIVE ME A CHANCE; SEE SOMETHING IN ME. SWAPPING HIS OVERALLS FOR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE FANCY AS A FINALIST FOR ASPIRING CHEESEMAKER OF THE YEAR. NICE. I JUST WANT MY KIDS TO BE PROUD OF ME. THAT'S THE BIGGEST THING FOR ME. IT'S WHY I GET UP IN THE MORNING, YOU KNOW? I DIDN'T KNOW THAT PEOPLE GOT THAT MUCH INTO IT, BUT NOW I AM ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW? I'M BORING MY FAMILY WITH MY CHEESE STORIES, YOU KNOW? (LAUGHS) THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR ABOUT CHEESE ANY MORE. HE'S GOT A NATURAL CURIOSITY, THAT YOU REALLY NEED TO HAVE WHEN YOU ARE LEARNING SOMETHING COMPLETELY NEW. DID YOU THINK STRAIGHT AWAY, 'THIS IS THE GUY FOR US?' YES, WE DID, AND IT WAS FUNNY BECAUSE WE ARE REALLY FUSSY. THANK YOU, CATHERINE. THAT WAS A VERY NICE THING TO SAY, ALL RIGHT. IT ALMOST SOUNDED GENUINE. (LAUGHS) NO. AND AT THE SMOKO TABLE, IT'S CLEAR JUST HOW FAR ZEV'S COME. YOU HAVEN'T GOT ANY BREAD, HAVE YA? I BOUGHT SOME CHEESE, MATE. (LAUGHS) WHAT THE HELL IS THAT? THIS WAS MY IDEA OF CHEESE BEFORE I STARTED HERE. PLASTIC. PLASTIC IN PLASTIC. (LAUGHS) THE CONSISTENCY IS LIKE A POACHED EGG. POACHED EGG CONSISTENCY, THIS IS TECHNICAL TERMINOLOGY? YES, THIS IS WHAT I HAVE COME UP WITH. (BOTH LAUGH) HE'S JUST A NATURAL GUY, HE'S JUST A NORTHLANDER. HE'S GIVEN US AS MUCH AS WE'VE GIVEN HIM. I TELL THEM ALL THE TIME THAT I'M GRATEFUL THAT THEY GAVE ME A JOB, AND THEN THEY SORT OF TURN IT ROUND AND SAY 'OH, NO, WE ARE LUCKY TO HAVE YOU', SO IT'S JUST LIKE A VICIOUS CIRCLE TELLING EACH OTHER WE ARE GRATEFUL TO HAVE EACH OTHER. IT'S GONE PAST THAT POACHED EGG STAGE. IT'S ALMOST A BOILED EGG NOW. WE KNEW PRETTY SOON THAT HE WAS GOING TO BE A STAR. HOPEFULLY NOBODY'S WATCHING THIS, BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT GONNA STEAL HIM. (LAUGHS) I FEEL I HAVE GOT ME A JOB I CAN DO TILL I'M AN OLD MAN, YOU KNOW? AND STILL BE PASSIONATE ABOUT IT. The beauty of that is that is nota job ` it is a passion. I am going to buy that cheese just because I love all three of those people. NOW WE WANT TO GIVE YOU A LITTLE LOOK AT AN EXCLUSIVE STORY MICHAEL HOLLAND HAS FOR US TOMORROW NIGHT. HE'S THE KIWI WHO'S MADE IT HIS MISSION TO TAKE YOU INTO A VOLCANO'S HEART. ACID RAIN, INTENSE HEAT AND EARTHQUAKES ` NONE OF IT'S STOPPED THIS OFFICE WORKER FROM TAKING GOOGLE STREET VIEW INTO A VANUATU VOLCANO FOR THE FIRST TIME. SEE THESE INCREDIBLE PICTURES AND MORE FIRST AND ONLY ON SEVEN SHARP TOMORROW NIGHT. CAPTIONS BY VIRGINIA PHILP AND JEAN TENG. CAPTIONS WERE MADE POSSIBLE WITH FUNDING FROM NZ ON AIR. COPYRIGHT ABLE 2017