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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. I I have I have received I have received from I have received from the I have received from the Electoral I have received from the Electoral Commission I have received from the Electoral Commission a I have received from the Electoral Commission a writ I have received from the Electoral Commission a writ declaring I have received from the Electoral Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern to Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern to be Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected Commission a writ declaring Jacinda Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected to Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected to represent Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected to represent the Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected to represent the electorate Kate Laurell Ardern to be elected to represent the electorate of represent the electorate of Mt represent the electorate of Mt Albert. <APPLAUSE> I I wish I wish to I wish to advise I wish to advise the I wish to advise the House I wish to advise the House that I wish to advise the House that I I wish to advise the House that I have I wish to advise the House that I have received I wish to advise the House that I have received a I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from I wish to advise the House that I have received a letter from Jacinda have received a letter from Jacinda Arden have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning her have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning her list have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning her list seat have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning her list seat in have received a letter from Jacinda Arden resigning her list seat in the Arden resigning her list seat in the House Arden resigning her list seat in the House with Arden resigning her list seat in the House with effect Arden resigning her list seat in the House with effect at Arden resigning her list seat in the House with effect at midnight Arden resigning her list seat in the House with effect at midnight on House with effect at midnight on 14 House with effect at midnight on 14 March House with effect at midnight on 14 March 2017. I I have I have received I have received from I have received from the I have received from the Electoral I have received from the Electoral Commission I have received from the Electoral Commission a I have received from the Electoral Commission a return I have received from the Electoral Commission a return declaring Commission a return declaring Raymond Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo to Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo to be Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo to be elected Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo to be elected a Commission a return declaring Raymond Huo to be elected a Member Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Parliament Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Parliament to Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Parliament to fill Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Parliament to fill the Raymond Huo to be elected a Member of Parliament to fill the vacancy of Parliament to fill the vacancy created of Parliament to fill the vacancy created by of Parliament to fill the vacancy created by the of Parliament to fill the vacancy created by the resignation of Parliament to fill the vacancy created by the resignation of created by the resignation of Jacinda created by the resignation of Jacinda Arden created by the resignation of Jacinda Arden from created by the resignation of Jacinda Arden from her created by the resignation of Jacinda Arden from her seat. I I understand I understand that I understand that Raymond I understand that Raymond Huo I understand that Raymond Huo is I understand that Raymond Huo is present I understand that Raymond Huo is present and I understand that Raymond Huo is present and wishes I understand that Raymond Huo is present and wishes to I understand that Raymond Huo is present and wishes to take I understand that Raymond Huo is present and wishes to take the I understand that Raymond Huo is present and wishes to take the Oath. present and wishes to take the Oath. Would present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he please present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he please come present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he please come forward present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he please come forward to present and wishes to take the Oath. Would he please come forward to the Would he please come forward to the Chair Would he please come forward to the Chair on Would he please come forward to the Chair on my Would he please come forward to the Chair on my right. Read Read the Read the oath. Read the oath. I Read the oath. I Raymond Read the oath. I Raymond Huo Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I will Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I will be Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I will be faithful Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I will be faithful and Read the oath. I Raymond Huo swear that I will be faithful and bear that I will be faithful and bear true that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors according Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors according to Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors according to law, Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors according to law, so Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors according to law, so help successors according to law, so help me successors according to law, so help me God. successors according to law, so help me God. Do successors according to law, so help me God. Do you successors according to law, so help me God. Do you declare successors according to law, so help me God. Do you declare this successors according to law, so help me God. Do you declare this oath successors according to law, so help me God. Do you declare this oath to me God. Do you declare this oath to be me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on you? me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on you? Yes, me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on you? Yes, I me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on you? Yes, I do, me God. Do you declare this oath to be binding on you? Yes, I do, Mr be binding on you? Yes, I do, Mr Speaker. <APPLAUSE> I'm I'm sure I'm sure that I'm sure that members I'm sure that members would I'm sure that members would wish I'm sure that members would wish to I'm sure that members would wish to welcome I'm sure that members would wish to welcome Senator I'm sure that members would wish to welcome Senator Bridget I'm sure that members would wish to welcome Senator Bridget McKenzie I'm sure that members would wish to welcome Senator Bridget McKenzie and Joanee Joanee Ryan, Joanee Ryan, MP Joanee Ryan, MP and Joanee Ryan, MP and the Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and the Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and the netball Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and the netball teams Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and the netball teams of Joanee Ryan, MP and the Hon Lynda Voltz and the netball teams of the Voltz and the netball teams of the NSW Voltz and the netball teams of the NSW and Voltz and the netball teams of the NSW and Australian Voltz and the netball teams of the NSW and Australian Federal NSW and Australian Federal Parliaments. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does she My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does she have Social Development: Does she have confidence Social Development: Does she have confidence in Social Development: Does she have confidence in the Social Development: Does she have confidence in the current Social Development: Does she have confidence in the current drafting confidence in the current drafting of confidence in the current drafting of the confidence in the current drafting of the Children, confidence in the current drafting of the Children, Young confidence in the current drafting of the Children, Young Persons, confidence in the current drafting of the Children, Young Persons, and of the Children, Young Persons, and Their of the Children, Young Persons, and Their Families of the Children, Young Persons, and Their Families (Oranga of the Children, Young Persons, and Their Families (Oranga Tamariki) Their Families (Oranga Tamariki) Legislation Their Families (Oranga Tamariki) Legislation Bill? Yes, Yes, but Yes, but we Yes, but we have Yes, but we have a Yes, but we have a robust Yes, but we have a robust select Yes, but we have a robust select committee Yes, but we have a robust select committee process Yes, but we have a robust select committee process in Yes, but we have a robust select committee process in which Yes, but we have a robust select committee process in which members committee process in which members and committee process in which members and the committee process in which members and the public committee process in which members and the public can committee process in which members and the public can scrutinise and the public can scrutinise proposed and the public can scrutinise proposed legislation and the public can scrutinise proposed legislation in and the public can scrutinise proposed legislation in line and the public can scrutinise proposed legislation in line by and the public can scrutinise proposed legislation in line by line proposed legislation in line by line detail. proposed legislation in line by line detail. 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There will be less interchange There will be less interchange between There will be less interchange between one There will be less interchange between one particular There will be less interchange between one particular member There will be less interchange between one particular member and between one particular member and one between one particular member and one deputy between one particular member and one deputy Leader between one particular member and one deputy Leader of between one particular member and one deputy Leader of the between one particular member and one deputy Leader of the Opposition. 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Growth December quarter and for the 2016 calendar year. Growth for December quarter and for the 2016 calendar year. Growth for the calendar year. Growth for the quarter calendar year. Growth for the quarter was calendar year. Growth for the quarter was 0.4% calendar year. Growth for the quarter was 0.4% and calendar year. Growth for the quarter was 0.4% and the calendar year. Growth for the quarter was 0.4% and the average quarter was 0.4% and the average growth quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for the quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for the year quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for the year was quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for the year was 3.1%. quarter was 0.4% and the average growth for the year was 3.1%. That growth for the year was 3.1%. That figure growth for the year was 3.1%. That figure is growth for the year was 3.1%. That figure is encouraging growth for the year was 3.1%. 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What can lead successful and independent lives. What recent can lead successful and independent lives. What recent reports can lead successful and independent lives. What recent reports has can lead successful and independent lives. What recent reports has she lives. What recent reports has she seen lives. What recent reports has she seen on lives. What recent reports has she seen on the lives. What recent reports has she seen on the number lives. What recent reports has she seen on the number of lives. What recent reports has she seen on the number of teen lives. What recent reports has she seen on the number of teen mums seen on the number of teen mums receiving seen on the number of teen mums receiving a seen on the number of teen mums receiving a main seen on the number of teen mums receiving a main benefit? seen on the number of teen mums receiving a main benefit? Great receiving a main benefit? Great news, receiving a main benefit? Great news, Mr receiving a main benefit? 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Compared to 2009, at the end of 2016 there were 57 % at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen mums at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen mums on at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen mums on a at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen mums on a benefit, at the end of 2016 there were 57 % fewer teen mums on a benefit, down fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 to fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 to just fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 to just 1,836. fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 to just 1,836. This fewer teen mums on a benefit, down from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is absolutely from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is absolutely fantastic from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is absolutely fantastic news from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is absolutely fantastic news for from 4,263 to just 1,836. This is absolutely fantastic news for these absolutely fantastic news for these young absolutely fantastic news for these young women absolutely fantastic news for these young women because absolutely fantastic news for these young women because the absolutely fantastic news for these young women because the evidence young women because the evidence shows young women because the evidence shows that young women because the evidence shows that by young women because the evidence shows that by supporting young women because the evidence shows that by supporting those young women because the evidence shows that by supporting those young shows that by supporting those young mums shows that by supporting those young mums to shows that by supporting those young mums to become shows that by supporting those young mums to become independent shows that by supporting those young mums to become independent and shows that by supporting those young mums to become independent and break mums to become independent and break the mums to become independent and break the cycle mums to become independent and break the cycle of mums to become independent and break the cycle of welfare mums to become independent and break the cycle of welfare dependency mums to become independent and break the cycle of welfare dependency it the cycle of welfare dependency it will the cycle of welfare dependency it will lead the cycle of welfare dependency it will lead to the cycle of welfare dependency it will lead to better the cycle of welfare dependency it will lead to better life the cycle of welfare dependency it will lead to better life outcomes will lead to better life outcomes for will lead to better life outcomes for them, will lead to better life outcomes for them, but will lead to better life outcomes for them, but also will lead to better life outcomes for them, but also for will lead to better life outcomes for them, but also for their for them, but also for their children. for them, but also for their children. It for them, but also for their children. It also for them, but also for their children. It also reduces for them, but also for their children. It also reduces the children. It also reduces the long-term children. It also reduces the long-term costs children. It also reduces the long-term costs to children. It also reduces the long-term costs to the children. It also reduces the long-term costs to the taxpayer. long-term costs to the taxpayer. What long-term costs to the taxpayer. What do long-term costs to the taxpayer. What do these long-term costs to the taxpayer. What do these reductions long-term costs to the taxpayer. What do these reductions in long-term costs to the taxpayer. What do these reductions in benefit What do these reductions in benefit numbers What do these reductions in benefit numbers mean What do these reductions in benefit numbers mean for What do these reductions in benefit numbers mean for the What do these reductions in benefit numbers mean for the future numbers mean for the future liability numbers mean for the future liability of numbers mean for the future liability of the numbers mean for the future liability of the welfare numbers mean for the future liability of the welfare system? numbers mean for the future liability of the welfare system? The liability of the welfare system? The impact liability of the welfare system? The impact of liability of the welfare system? The impact of welfare liability of the welfare system? The impact of welfare reforms liability of the welfare system? The impact of welfare reforms and liability of the welfare system? 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It future lifetime cost for the taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is clear taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is clear that taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is clear that this taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is clear that this Government's taxpayer of $13.7 billion. It is clear that this Government's welfare clear that this Government's welfare reforms clear that this Government's welfare reforms have clear that this Government's welfare reforms have had clear that this Government's welfare reforms have had a clear that this Government's welfare reforms have had a significant reforms have had a significant impact reforms have had a significant impact in reforms have had a significant impact in helping reforms have had a significant impact in helping more reforms have had a significant impact in helping more people reforms have had a significant impact in helping more people into impact in helping more people into work, impact in helping more people into work, as impact in helping more people into work, as well impact in helping more people into work, as well as impact in helping more people into work, as well as priding impact in helping more people into work, as well as priding substantial work, as well as priding substantial savings work, as well as priding substantial savings for work, as well as priding substantial savings for the work, as well as priding substantial savings for the tax work, as well as priding substantial savings for the tax -- work, as well as priding substantial savings for the tax -- providing savings for the tax -- providing substantial savings for the tax -- providing substantial savings savings for the tax -- providing substantial savings for savings for the tax -- providing substantial savings for the substantial savings for the taxpayer. 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Can he confirm in light of his statements on economic growth of his statements on economic growth that of his statements on economic growth that today's of his statements on economic growth that today's quarterly of his statements on economic growth that today's quarterly GDP of his statements on economic growth that today's quarterly GDP figures that today's quarterly GDP figures show that today's quarterly GDP figures show the that today's quarterly GDP figures show the weakest that today's quarterly GDP figures show the weakest growth that today's quarterly GDP figures show the weakest growth in that today's quarterly GDP figures show the weakest growth in a that today's quarterly GDP figures show the weakest growth in a quarter show the weakest growth in a quarter since show the weakest growth in a quarter since the show the weakest growth in a quarter since the beginning show the weakest growth in a quarter since the beginning of show the weakest growth in a quarter since the beginning of 2015? show the weakest growth in a quarter since the beginning of 2015? 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Supplementary decisions in this regard have been made. Supplementary question decisions in this regard have been made. Supplementary question Julie made. Supplementary question Julie Anne made. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. made. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Can made. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Can he made. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Can he confirm made. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Can he confirm that Anne Genter. Can he confirm that buses Anne Genter. Can he confirm that buses will Anne Genter. Can he confirm that buses will face Anne Genter. Can he confirm that buses will face overcrowding Anne Genter. Can he confirm that buses will face overcrowding and buses will face overcrowding and delays buses will face overcrowding and delays at buses will face overcrowding and delays at choke buses will face overcrowding and delays at choke points buses will face overcrowding and delays at choke points along buses will face overcrowding and delays at choke points along the delays at choke points along the Northern delays at choke points along the Northern Busway delays at choke points along the Northern Busway before delays at choke points along the Northern Busway before 2026? delays at choke points along the Northern Busway before 2026? The delays at choke points along the Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Simon Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Simon Bridges. Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Simon Bridges. Mr Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Simon Bridges. Mr Speaker, Northern Busway before 2026? The Hon Simon Bridges. Mr Speaker, no. 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They have got great capacity through buses. They have got great potential capacity through buses. They have got great potential for capacity through buses. They have got great potential for Auckland capacity through buses. 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Any objection to it being Official Information Act. Any objection to it being tailed? Official Information Act. Any objection to it being tailed? There objection to it being tailed? There is objection to it being tailed? There leave objection to it being tailed? There is not. It objection to it being tailed? There is not. It can objection to it being tailed? There is not. It can be objection to it being tailed? There is not. It can be tailed. is not. It can be tailed. Supplementary is not. It can be tailed. Supplementary question is not. It can be tailed. Supplementary question Julie is not. It can be tailed. Supplementary question Julie Anne Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Will Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Will he Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Will he commit Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Will he commit to Supplementary question Julie Anne Genter. Will he commit to starting Genter. 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Will he commit to starting whichever rail option is identified whichever rail option is identified as whichever rail option is identified as best whichever rail option is identified as best by whichever rail option is identified as best by the whichever rail option is identified as best by the NZ whichever rail option is identified as best by the NZ Transport whichever rail option is identified as best by the NZ Transport Agency as best by the NZ Transport Agency and as best by the NZ Transport Agency and Auckland as best by the NZ Transport Agency and Auckland Transport as best by the NZ Transport Agency and Auckland Transport in as best by the NZ Transport Agency and Auckland Transport in time as best by the NZ Transport Agency and Auckland Transport in time for and Auckland Transport in time for it and Auckland Transport in time for it to and Auckland Transport in time for it to be and Auckland Transport in time for it to be ready and Auckland Transport in time for it to be ready by and Auckland Transport in time for it to be ready by 2026 and Auckland Transport in time for it to be ready by 2026 when and Auckland Transport in time for it to be ready by 2026 when the it to be ready by 2026 when the busway it to be ready by 2026 when the busway will it to be ready by 2026 when the busway will be it to be ready by 2026 when the busway will be reaching it to be ready by 2026 when the busway will be reaching capacity? busway will be reaching capacity? 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We are assure the member we are making great progress. We are investing great progress. We are investing like great progress. We are investing like never great progress. We are investing like never before great progress. We are investing like never before in great progress. We are investing like never before in the great progress. We are investing like never before in the history great progress. We are investing like never before in the history of like never before in the history of Auckland like never before in the history of Auckland in like never before in the history of Auckland in it like never before in the history of Auckland in it transport like never before in the history of Auckland in it transport projects. Auckland in it transport projects. There Auckland in it transport projects. There is Auckland in it transport projects. There is a Auckland in it transport projects. There is a number Auckland in it transport projects. 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There is a number of truly There is a number of truly significant There is a number of truly significant ones There is a number of truly significant ones started, There is a number of truly significant ones started, including significant ones started, including East-West significant ones started, including East-West Connection, significant ones started, including East-West Connection, including significant ones started, including East-West Connection, including the East-West Connection, including the CRL, East-West Connection, including the CRL, including, East-West Connection, including the CRL, including, as East-West Connection, including the CRL, including, as I East-West Connection, including the CRL, including, as I say, East-West Connection, including the CRL, including, as I say, Northern CRL, including, as I say, Northern Corridor CRL, including, as I say, Northern Corridor and, CRL, including, as I say, Northern Corridor and, of CRL, including, as I say, Northern Corridor and, of course, CRL, including, as I say, Northern Corridor and, of course, Waterview Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project will Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project will be Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project will be a Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project will be a game-changer Corridor and, of course, Waterview Project will be a game-changer when Project will be a game-changer when that Project will be a game-changer when that opens Project will be a game-changer when that opens to Project will be a game-changer when that opens to the Project will be a game-changer when that opens to the public Project will be a game-changer when that opens to the public and Project will be a game-changer when that opens to the public and the that opens to the public and the people that opens to the public and the people of that opens to the public and the people of Auckland that opens to the public and the people of Auckland in that opens to the public and the people of Auckland in April that opens to the public and the people of Auckland in April of that opens to the public and the people of Auckland in April of this people of Auckland in April of this year. Ulatory Ulatory Systems Ulatory Systems (Commercial Ulatory Systems (Commercial Matters) Ulatory Systems (Commercial Matters) Amendment Ulatory Systems (Commercial Matters) Amendment Bill, Ulatory Systems (Commercial Matters) Amendment Bill, Regulatory Ulatory Systems (Commercial Matters) Amendment Bill, Regulatory Systems Amendment Bill, Regulatory Systems (Workplace Amendment Bill, Regulatory Systems (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, Regulatory Systems (Workplace Relations) Amendment (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, Intelligence (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, Intelligence and (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, Intelligence and Security (Workplace Relations) Amendment Bill, Intelligence and Security Bill Bill, Intelligence and Security Bill third Bill, Intelligence and Security Bill third reading Bill, Intelligence and Security Bill third reading Regulatory Bill, Intelligence and Security Bill third reading Regulatory Systems third reading Regulatory Systems (Building third reading Regulatory Systems (Building and third reading Regulatory Systems (Building and Housing) third reading Regulatory Systems (Building and Housing) Amendment (Building and Housing) Amendment Bill third third reading third reading Regulatory third reading Regulatory Systems third reading Regulatory Systems (Building My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Corrections: My question is to the Minister of Corrections: What My question is to the Minister of Corrections: What recent My question is to the Minister of Corrections: What recent agreement Corrections: What recent agreement has Corrections: What recent agreement has been Corrections: What recent agreement has been signed Corrections: What recent agreement has been signed with Corrections: What recent agreement has been signed with the Corrections: What recent agreement has been signed with the Kingitanga has been signed with the Kingitanga to has been signed with the Kingitanga to improve has been signed with the Kingitanga to improve outcomes has been signed with the Kingitanga to improve outcomes for has been signed with the Kingitanga to improve outcomes for Maori to improve outcomes for Maori offenders? This This morning This morning the This morning the Dept This morning the Dept of This morning the Dept of Corrections This morning the Dept of Corrections and This morning the Dept of Corrections and the This morning the Dept of Corrections and the Kingitanga This morning the Dept of Corrections and the Kingitanga signed This morning the Dept of Corrections and the Kingitanga signed an This morning the Dept of Corrections and the Kingitanga signed an accord and the Kingitanga signed an accord to and the Kingitanga signed an accord to work and the Kingitanga signed an accord to work together and the Kingitanga signed an accord to work together to and the Kingitanga signed an accord to work together to improve and the Kingitanga signed an accord to work together to improve outcomes to work together to improve outcomes for to work together to improve outcomes for Maori to work together to improve outcomes for Maori offenders. to work together to improve outcomes for Maori offenders. They to work together to improve outcomes for Maori offenders. They will to work together to improve outcomes for Maori offenders. They will work for Maori offenders. They will work together for Maori offenders. They will work together to for Maori offenders. They will work together to develop for Maori offenders. They will work together to develop initiatives for Maori offenders. They will work together to develop initiatives to together to develop initiatives to improve together to develop initiatives to improve outcomes together to develop initiatives to improve outcomes for together to develop initiatives to improve outcomes for Maori. together to develop initiatives to improve outcomes for Maori. I improve outcomes for Maori. I applaud improve outcomes for Maori. I applaud the improve outcomes for Maori. I applaud the Kingitanga improve outcomes for Maori. I applaud the Kingitanga for improve outcomes for Maori. I applaud the Kingitanga for stepping applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward and applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward and recognising applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward and recognising it applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward and recognising it has applaud the Kingitanga for stepping forward and recognising it has a forward and recognising it has a role forward and recognising it has a role with forward and recognising it has a role with working forward and recognising it has a role with working with forward and recognising it has a role with working with corrections role with working with corrections to role with working with corrections to improve role with working with corrections to improve the role with working with corrections to improve the wellbeing role with working with corrections to improve the wellbeing of role with working with corrections to improve the wellbeing of Maori. What What specific What specific areas What specific areas does What specific areas does the What specific areas does the accord What specific areas does the accord cover? What specific areas does the accord cover? One What specific areas does the accord cover? One of What specific areas does the accord cover? One of the What specific areas does the accord cover? One of the four What specific areas does the accord cover? One of the four areas What specific areas does the accord cover? One of the four areas of cover? One of the four areas of neutral cover? One of the four areas of neutral interest cover? One of the four areas of neutral interest identified cover? One of the four areas of neutral interest identified in cover? One of the four areas of neutral interest identified in the neutral interest identified in the accord neutral interest identified in the accord is neutral interest identified in the accord is the neutral interest identified in the accord is the rehabilitation neutral interest identified in the accord is the rehabilitation of accord is the rehabilitation of Maori accord is the rehabilitation of Maori prisoners. accord is the rehabilitation of Maori prisoners. Participation accord is the rehabilitation of Maori prisoners. Participation rates Maori prisoners. Participation rates in Maori prisoners. Participation rates in rehabilitation Maori prisoners. Participation rates in rehabilitation programmes Maori prisoners. Participation rates in rehabilitation programmes run Maori prisoners. 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The participation by Maori. The department participation by Maori. The department also participation by Maori. The department also offers participation by Maori. The department also offers a participation by Maori. The department also offers a range participation by Maori. The department also offers a range of department also offers a range of rehabilitation department also offers a range of rehabilitation services department also offers a range of rehabilitation services specifically rehabilitation services specifically for rehabilitation services specifically for Maori rehabilitation services specifically for Maori with rehabilitation services specifically for Maori with around rehabilitation services specifically for Maori with around 1,300 rehabilitation services specifically for Maori with around 1,300 places for Maori with around 1,300 places available for Maori with around 1,300 places available on for Maori with around 1,300 places available on these for Maori with around 1,300 places available on these programmes for Maori with around 1,300 places available on these programmes each available on these programmes each year. available on these programmes each year. This available on these programmes each year. This accord available on these programmes each year. This accord will available on these programmes each year. This accord will help available on these programmes each year. This accord will help ensure year. This accord will help ensure that year. This accord will help ensure that these year. This accord will help ensure that these programmes year. This accord will help ensure that these programmes are year. This accord will help ensure that these programmes are targeted that these programmes are targeted at that these programmes are targeted at achieving that these programmes are targeted at achieving even that these programmes are targeted at achieving even better at achieving even better rehabilitation at achieving even better rehabilitation outcomes at achieving even better rehabilitation outcomes for at achieving even better rehabilitation outcomes for Maori. 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The member may there is no ministerial responsibility. The member may not responsibility. The member may not have responsibility. The member may not have heard responsibility. The member may not have heard me responsibility. The member may not have heard me but responsibility. The member may not have heard me but that responsibility. The member may not have heard me but that is responsibility. The member may not have heard me but that is my responsibility. The member may not have heard me but that is my ruling. have heard me but that is my ruling. What have heard me but that is my ruling. What other have heard me but that is my ruling. What other initiatives have heard me but that is my ruling. What other initiatives are have heard me but that is my ruling. What other initiatives are in have heard me but that is my ruling. What other initiatives are in place What other initiatives are in place to What other initiatives are in place to improve What other initiatives are in place to improve outcomes What other initiatives are in place to improve outcomes for What other initiatives are in place to improve outcomes for Maori to improve outcomes for Maori prisoners? to improve outcomes for Maori prisoners? Around to improve outcomes for Maori prisoners? Around half to improve outcomes for Maori prisoners? Around half the to improve outcomes for Maori prisoners? Around half the prison prisoners? Around half the prison population prisoners? Around half the prison population is prisoners? Around half the prison population is Maori prisoners? Around half the prison population is Maori and prisoners? Around half the prison population is Maori and it prisoners? 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Corrections has established outcomes. Corrections has established a outcomes. Corrections has established a Maori outcomes. Corrections has established a Maori advisory outcomes. Corrections has established a Maori advisory board established a Maori advisory board with established a Maori advisory board with representatives established a Maori advisory board with representatives from established a Maori advisory board with representatives from seven established a Maori advisory board with representatives from seven iwi with representatives from seven iwi organisations with representatives from seven iwi organisations to with representatives from seven iwi organisations to provided with representatives from seven iwi organisations to provided a with representatives from seven iwi organisations to provided a vice with representatives from seven iwi organisations to provided a vice on organisations to provided a vice on policy organisations to provided a vice on policy development organisations to provided a vice on policy development and organisations to provided a vice on policy development and the organisations to provided a vice on policy development and the design organisations to provided a vice on policy development and the design of policy development and the design of services policy development and the design of services for policy development and the design of services for Maori. policy development and the design of services for Maori. The policy development and the design of services for Maori. The department services for Maori. The department also services for Maori. The department also employs services for Maori. The department also employs a services for Maori. The department also employs a specialist services for Maori. The department also employs a specialist team services for Maori. The department also employs a specialist team of also employs a specialist team of Maori also employs a specialist team of Maori advisors also employs a specialist team of Maori advisors whose also employs a specialist team of Maori advisors whose objective also employs a specialist team of Maori advisors whose objective is also employs a specialist team of Maori advisors whose objective is to Maori advisors whose objective is to continually Maori advisors whose objective is to continually promote Maori advisors whose objective is to continually promote improvement Maori advisors whose objective is to continually promote improvement in continually promote improvement in the continually promote improvement in the department's continually promote improvement in the department's services continually promote improvement in the department's services for continually promote improvement in the department's services for Maori. the department's services for Maori. That the department's services for Maori. That concludes the department's services for Maori. That concludes Oral the department's services for Maori. That concludes Oral Questions. the department's services for Maori. That concludes Oral Questions. Point That concludes Oral Questions. Point of That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, the That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, the Hon That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, the Hon Louise That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, the Hon Louise Upston. That concludes Oral Questions. Point of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to table of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to table a of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to table a copy of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to table a copy of of order, the Hon Louise Upston. I seek leave to table a copy of the seek leave to table a copy of the accord seek leave to table a copy of the accord between seek leave to table a copy of the accord between the seek leave to table a copy of the accord between the Dept seek leave to table a copy of the accord between the Dept of accord between the Dept of Corrections accord between the Dept of Corrections and accord between the Dept of Corrections and Kingitanga accord between the Dept of Corrections and Kingitanga for accord between the Dept of Corrections and Kingitanga for the Corrections and Kingitanga for the House's Corrections and Kingitanga for the House's interest. Corrections and Kingitanga for the House's interest. Is Corrections and Kingitanga for the House's interest. Is that Corrections and Kingitanga for the House's interest. Is that document House's interest. Is that document publicly House's interest. Is that document publicly available? House's interest. Is that document publicly available? No. House's interest. Is that document publicly available? No. On House's interest. Is that document publicly available? No. On that publicly available? No. On that basis publicly available? No. On that basis I publicly available? No. On that basis I will publicly available? No. On that basis I will put publicly available? No. On that basis I will put the publicly available? No. On that basis I will put the leave. publicly available? No. On that basis I will put the leave. Leave publicly available? No. On that basis I will put the leave. Leave is basis I will put the leave. Leave is asked basis I will put the leave. Leave is asked to basis I will put the leave. Leave is asked to table basis I will put the leave. Leave is asked to table that basis I will put the leave. Leave is asked to table that particular asked to table that particular accord, asked to table that particular accord, is asked to table that particular accord, is there asked to table that particular accord, is there any asked to table that particular accord, is there any objection. asked to table that particular accord, is there any objection. Yes. accord, is there any objection. Yes. There