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The New Zealand economy, out of the wrong side of bed today. The New Zealand economy, Mr out of the wrong side of bed today. The New Zealand economy, Mr Mark, out of the wrong side of bed today. 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A big part of it is the relationship with China which this relationship with China which this Government relationship with China which this Government is relationship with China which this Government is proud relationship with China which this Government is proud of relationship with China which this Government is proud of fostering relationship with China which this Government is proud of fostering and Government is proud of fostering and that Government is proud of fostering and relationship Government is proud of fostering and that has seen Government is proud of fostering and that has seen very Government is proud of fostering and that has seen very big Government is proud of fostering and that has seen very big increases Government is proud of fostering and that has seen very big increases in that has seen very big increases in exports that has seen very big increases in exports from that has seen very big increases in exports from the that has seen very big increases in exports from the regions that has seen very big increases in exports from the regions and that has seen very big increases in exports from the regions and incomes that has seen very big increases in that that has seen very big increases in to the regions. that has seen very big increases in to the regions. . that has seen very big increases in to the regions. . 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Apart from Mr New Zealand's ongoing trade success? Apart from Mr Mark, New Zealand's ongoing trade success? Apart from Mr Mark, for New Zealand's ongoing trade success? Apart from Mr Mark, for most New Zealand's ongoing trade success? Apart from Mr Mark, for most of New Zealand's ongoing trade success? 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Exporters have done global growth. Exporters have done particularly global growth. Exporters have done particularly well global growth. Exporters have done particularly well and global growth. Exporters have done particularly well and while global growth. Exporters have done particularly well and while the particularly well and while the value particularly well and while the value to particularly well and while the value to our particularly well and while the value to our exports particularly well and while the value to our exports is particularly well and while the value to our exports is growing particularly well and while the value to our exports is growing it value to our exports is growing it remains value to our exports is growing it remains a value to our exports is growing it remains a tough value to our exports is growing it remains a tough operating remains a tough operating environment remains a tough operating environment for remains a tough operating environment for exporters. remains a tough operating environment for exporters. Trade environment for exporters. Trade disruption environment for exporters. Trade disruption and environment for exporters. Trade disruption and protectionism environment for exporters. Trade disruption and protectionism pose disruption and protectionism pose further disruption and protectionism pose further risks disruption and protectionism pose further risks to disruption and protectionism pose further risks to our disruption and protectionism pose further risks to our success disruption and protectionism pose further risks to our success and further risks to our success and that further risks to our success and value further risks to our success and that is why further risks to our success and that is why this further risks to our success and that is why this Government further risks to our success and that is why this Government will that is why this Government will stay that is why this Government will stay at that is why this Government will stay at the that is why this Government will stay at the absolute that is why this Government will stay at the absolute forefront that is why this Government will stay at the absolute forefront in stay at the absolute forefront in advocating stay at the absolute forefront in advocating for stay at the absolute forefront in advocating for free stay at the absolute forefront in advocating for free and stay at the absolute forefront in advocating for free and fair stay at the absolute forefront in advocating for free and fair trade. 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Yes Yes supplementary Yes supplementary question Yes supplementary question Metiria Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Does Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Does he Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Does he stand Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Does he stand by Yes supplementary question Metiria Turei Does he stand by his Turei Does he stand by his Government's Turei Does he stand by his Government's refusal Turei Does he stand by his Government's refusal to Turei Does he stand by his Government's refusal to commit Turei Does he stand by his Government's refusal to commit to Turei Does he stand by his Government's refusal to commit to an Government's refusal to commit to an inquiry Government's refusal to commit to an inquiry into Government's refusal to commit to an inquiry into the Government's refusal to commit to an inquiry into the allegations inquiry into the allegations contained inquiry into the allegations contained in inquiry into the allegations contained in the inquiry into the allegations contained in the hit inquiry into the allegations contained in the hit and inquiry into the allegations contained in the hit and run inquiry into the allegations contained in the hit and run book, contained in the hit and run book, including contained in the hit and run book, including the contained in the hit and run book, including the allegations contained in the hit and run book, including the allegations of contained in the hit and run book, including the allegations of the including the allegations of the killing including the allegations of the killing of including the allegations of the killing of children including the allegations of the killing of children in including the allegations of the killing of children in Afghanistan killing of children in Afghanistan by killing of children in Afghanistan by New killing of children in Afghanistan by New Zealand killing of children in Afghanistan by New Zealand forces, killing of children in Afghanistan by New Zealand forces, and killing of children in Afghanistan by New Zealand forces, and if killing of children in Afghanistan by New Zealand forces, and if so, by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr Speaker, by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr Speaker, at by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr Speaker, at this by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr Speaker, at this stage by New Zealand forces, and if so, why? Mr Speaker, at this stage we why? Mr Speaker, at this stage we why? Mr Speaker, at this stage we why? Mr Speaker, at this stage we haven't seen why? Mr Speaker, at this stage we haven't seen sufficient why? 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However, politically motivated to warrant an inquiry. However, I politically motivated to warrant an inquiry. However, I have politically motivated to warrant an inquiry. However, I have sought inquiry. However, I have sought briefings inquiry. However, I have sought briefings from inquiry. However, I have sought briefings from officials inquiry. However, I have sought briefings from officials and inquiry. However, I have sought briefings from officials and will briefings from officials and will seek briefings from officials and will seek more briefings from officials and will seek more such briefings from officials and will seek more such briefings. seek more such briefings. Supplementary seek more such briefings. Supplementary question seek more such briefings. Supplementary question Metiria seek more such briefings. 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Supplementary in which they make a whole range of allegations. Supplementary yes allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria Turei. allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria Turei. Is allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria Turei. Is the allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria Turei. Is the PM allegations. Supplementary yes Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned allegations. Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned about the potential Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned about the potential that Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned about the potential that the Metiria Turei. Is the PM concerned about the potential that the conduct about the potential that the conduct of about the potential that the conduct of the about the potential that the conduct of the New about the potential that the conduct of the New Zealand about the potential that the conduct of the New Zealand Defence about the potential that the conduct of the New Zealand Defence Force about the potential that the conduct of the New Zealand Defence Force in of the New Zealand Defence Force in Afghanistan of the New Zealand Defence Force in Afghanistan could of the New Zealand Defence Force in Afghanistan could be of the New Zealand Defence Force in Afghanistan could be investigated of the New Zealand Defence Force in Afghanistan could be investigated by Afghanistan could be investigated by Afghanistan could be investigated by Afghanistan could be investigated by the International Afghanistan could be investigated by the International Criminal Afghanistan could be investigated by the International Criminal Court? Afghanistan could be investigated by the International Criminal Court? Mr the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and I the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and I must the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and I must say the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and I must say that the International Criminal Court? Mr Speaker, no, and I must say that we Speaker, no, and I must say that we are Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud of Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud of our Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud of our Defence Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud of our Defence Forces Speaker, no, and I must say that we are proud of our Defence Forces and are proud of our Defence Forces and their are proud of our Defence Forces and their service are proud of our Defence Forces and their service overseas, are proud of our Defence Forces and their service overseas, which their service overseas, which includes their service overseas, which includes in their service overseas, which includes in Afghanistan their service overseas, which includes in Afghanistan the their service overseas, which includes in Afghanistan the loss their service overseas, which includes in Afghanistan the loss of includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives in includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives in the includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives in the interest includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives in the interest of includes in Afghanistan the loss of 10 lives in the interest of New 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand playing 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand playing its 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand playing its part 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand playing its part in 10 lives in the interest of New Zealand playing its part in securing Zealand playing its part in securing international Zealand playing its part in securing international order. Zealand playing its part in securing international order. There Zealand playing its part in securing international order. There is Zealand playing its part in securing international order. There is no international order. There is no suggestion international order. There is no suggestion either international order. There is no suggestion either in international order. There is no suggestion either in the international order. There is no suggestion either in the book international order. There is no suggestion either in the book - suggestion either in the book - certainly suggestion either in the book - certainly no suggestion either in the book - certainly no suggestions suggestion either in the book - certainly no suggestions in suggestion either in the book - certainly no suggestions in the certainly no suggestions in the briefings certainly no suggestions in the briefings I certainly no suggestions in the briefings I have certainly no suggestions in the briefings I have seen certainly no suggestions in the briefings I have seen or certainly no suggestions in the briefings I have seen or the briefings I have seen or the inquiries briefings I have seen or the inquiries that briefings I have seen or the inquiries that have briefings I have seen or the inquiries that have already briefings I have seen or the inquiries that have already been inquiries that have already been covered inquiries that have already been covered that inquiries that have already been covered that New inquiries that have already been covered that New Zealand inquiries that have already been covered that New Zealand defence covered that New Zealand defence personnel covered that New Zealand defence personnel have covered that New Zealand defence personnel have done covered that New Zealand defence personnel have done anything covered that New Zealand defence personnel have done anything other personnel have done anything other than personnel have done anything other than observe personnel have done anything other than observe the personnel have done anything other than observe the rules personnel have done anything other than observe the rules of personnel have done anything other than observe the rules of engagement than observe the rules of engagement in than observe the rules of engagement in a than observe the rules of engagement in a professional than observe the rules of engagement in a professional manner. than observe the rules of engagement in a professional manner. Is than observe the rules of engagement in a professional manner. Is the than observe the rules of engagement in a professional manner. Is the PM in a professional manner. Is the PM not in a professional manner. Is the PM not taking in a professional manner. Is the PM not taking seriously in a professional manner. Is the PM not taking seriously the in a professional manner. Is the PM not taking seriously the possibility not taking seriously the possibility that not taking seriously the possibility that the not taking seriously the possibility that the International not taking seriously the possibility that the International Criminal that the International Criminal Court that the International Criminal Court could that the International Criminal Court could investigate that the International Criminal Court could investigate the that the International Criminal Court could investigate the New Court could investigate the New Zealand Court could investigate the New Zealand Defence Court could investigate the New Zealand Defence Force Court could investigate the New Zealand Defence Force for Court could investigate the New Zealand Defence Force for the Zealand Defence Force for the alleged Zealand Defence Force for the alleged killing Zealand Defence Force for the alleged killing of Zealand Defence Force for the alleged killing of civilians, alleged killing of civilians, including alleged killing of civilians, including children, alleged killing of civilians, including children, in alleged killing of civilians, including children, in Afghanistan including children, in Afghanistan and including children, in Afghanistan and a including children, in Afghanistan and a possible including children, in Afghanistan and a possible Government including children, in Afghanistan and a possible Government cover including children, in Afghanistan and a possible Government cover up? and a possible Government cover up? Mr and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, that and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, that - and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, that - who and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, that - who knows and a possible Government cover up? Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that is Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that is technically Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that is technically possible Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that is technically possible or Mr Speaker, that - who knows whether that is technically possible or not. that is technically possible or not. Our that is technically possible or not. Our concern that is technically possible or not. Our concern is that is technically possible or not. Our concern is in that is technically possible or not. 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I the standards that we would expect of them. I can the standards that we would expect of them. I can only the standards that we would expect of them. I can only repeat the standards that we would expect of them. I can only repeat that the standards that we would expect of them. I can only repeat that the of them. I can only repeat that the book of them. I can only repeat that the book very of them. I can only repeat that the book very recently of them. I can only repeat that the book very recently published of them. 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However, allegations to warrant an inquiry. However, we allegations to warrant an inquiry. However, we will allegations to warrant an inquiry. However, we will continue allegations to warrant an inquiry. However, we will continue to allegations to warrant an inquiry. However, we will continue to get However, we will continue to get However, we will continue to get However, we will continue to get briefings. . However, we will continue to get briefings. . Supplementary However, we will continue to get briefings. . Supplementary question briefings. . Supplementary question briefings. . Supplementary question briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. Does briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. Does the briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. Does the PM briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. Does the PM not briefings. . Supplementary question Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the allegations Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the allegations in Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the allegations in the Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the allegations in the book Metiria Turei. Does the PM not agree that the allegations in the book are that the allegations in the book are of that the allegations in the book are of - that the allegations in the book are of - the that the allegations in the book are of - the allegations that the allegations in the book are of - the allegations in that the allegations in the book are of - the allegations in the that the allegations in the book are of - the allegations in the book of - the allegations in the book of the of - the allegations in the book of the killing of - the allegations in the book of the killing of of - the allegations in the book of the killing of civilians, of - the allegations in the book of the killing of civilians, including the killing of civilians, including the the killing of civilians, including children, by the the killing of civilians, including children, by the New the killing of civilians, including children, by the New Zealand the killing of civilians, including children, by the New Zealand Defence children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, the children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, the SAS, children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, the SAS, must children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, the SAS, must be children, by the New Zealand Defence Force, the SAS, must be taken Force, the SAS, must be taken seriously Force, the SAS, must be taken seriously enough Force, the SAS, must be taken seriously enough to Force, the SAS, must be taken seriously enough to warrant Force, the SAS, must be taken seriously enough to warrant an seriously enough to warrant an inquiry seriously enough to warrant an inquiry into seriously enough to warrant an inquiry into those seriously enough to warrant an inquiry into those allegations seriously enough to warrant an inquiry into those allegations if inquiry into those allegations if only inquiry into those allegations if only to inquiry into those allegations if only to disprove inquiry into those allegations if only to disprove them? inquiry into those allegations if only to disprove them? Well, inquiry into those allegations if only to disprove them? Well, Mr only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, we only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, we are only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, we are simply only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, we are simply not only to disprove them? Well, Mr Speaker, we are simply not going only to disprove them? 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Question access for our exporters in overseas markets. Question No. access for our exporters in overseas markets. Question No. 8. 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So, is she saying that within six years, all schools that within six years, all schools that that within six years, all schools that have that within six years, all schools that have been that within six years, all schools that have been identified that within six years, all schools that have been identified as that within six years, all schools that have been identified as below that have been identified as below standard, that have been identified as below standard, will that have been identified as below standard, will be that have been identified as below standard, will be brought that have been identified as below standard, will be brought up that have been identified as below standard, will be brought up to standard, will be brought up to standard? standard, will be brought up to standard? Sorry, standard, will be brought up to standard? Sorry, I standard, will be brought up to standard? Sorry, I didn't standard, will be brought up to standard? Sorry, I didn't actually standard? 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But because some of them haven't started yet. But it because some of them haven't started yet. But it is because some of them haven't started yet. But it is my because some of them haven't started yet. But it is my expectation, because some of them haven't started yet. But it is my expectation, and yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and check yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and check that yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and check that it yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and check that it would yet. But it is my expectation, and I'll go and check that it would be I'll go and check that it would be between I'll go and check that it would be between six I'll go and check that it would be between six to I'll go and check that it would be between six to eight I'll go and check that it would be between six to eight years I'll go and check that it would be between six to eight years that I'll go and check that it would be between six to eight years that we between six to eight years that we would between six to eight years that we would have between six to eight years that we would have those between six to eight years that we would have those three between six to eight years that we would have those three programmes. would have those three programmes. Question would have those three programmes. Question No. would have those three programmes. Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Primary My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: What My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: What recent Primary Industries: What recent announcements Primary Industries: What recent announcements has Primary Industries: What recent announcements has he Primary Industries: What recent announcements has he made Primary Industries: What recent announcements has he made on Primary Industries: What recent announcements has he made on how Primary Industries: What recent announcements has he made on how the announcements has he made on how the Government announcements has he made on how the Government is announcements has he made on how the Government is supporting announcements has he made on how the Government is supporting growth announcements has he made on how the Government is supporting growth in Government is supporting growth in the Government is supporting growth in the primary Government is supporting growth in the primary sector? Recently Recently I Recently I announced Recently I announced two Recently I announced two sustainable Recently I announced two sustainable farming Recently I announced two sustainable farming fund Recently I announced two sustainable farming fund projects Recently I announced two sustainable farming fund projects aimed Recently I announced two sustainable farming fund projects aimed at Recently I announced two sustainable farming fund projects aimed at the farming fund projects aimed at the better farming fund projects aimed at the better use farming fund projects aimed at the better use of farming fund projects aimed at the better use of irrigation. farming fund projects aimed at the better use of irrigation. The farming fund projects aimed at the better use of irrigation. The first better use of irrigation. The first project better use of irrigation. The first project is better use of irrigation. The first project is led better use of irrigation. The first project is led by better use of irrigation. The first project is led by Irrigation better use of irrigation. The first project is led by Irrigation New project is led by Irrigation New Zealand project is led by Irrigation New Zealand and project is led by Irrigation New Zealand and will project is led by Irrigation New Zealand and will identify project is led by Irrigation New Zealand and will identify the Zealand and will identify the benefits Zealand and will identify the benefits of Zealand and will identify the benefits of irrigation Zealand and will identify the benefits of irrigation good benefits of irrigation good management benefits of irrigation good management practices benefits of irrigation good management practices and benefits of irrigation good management practices and the management practices and the barriers management practices and the barriers to management practices and the barriers to taking management practices and the barriers to taking up management practices and the barriers to taking up new barriers to taking up new technology. barriers to taking up new technology. The barriers to taking up new technology. The second barriers to taking up new technology. The second project barriers to taking up new technology. The second project looks technology. The second project looks at technology. The second project looks at the technology. The second project looks at the positive technology. The second project looks at the positive effects technology. The second project looks at the positive effects of at the positive effects of irrigation at the positive effects of irrigation on at the positive effects of irrigation on water at the positive effects of irrigation on water holding at the positive effects of irrigation on water holding capacity irrigation on water holding capacity of irrigation on water holding capacity of soils irrigation on water holding capacity of soils in irrigation on water holding capacity of soils in Canterbury. irrigation on water holding capacity of soils in Canterbury. A irrigation on water holding capacity of soils in Canterbury. A report irrigation on water holding capacity of soils in Canterbury. A report by of soils in Canterbury. A report by NZI of soils in Canterbury. A report by NZI ER of soils in Canterbury. A report by NZI ER found of soils in Canterbury. A report by NZI ER found that of soils in Canterbury. A report by NZI ER found that irrigation NZI ER found that irrigation contributes NZI ER found that irrigation contributes 2.2 NZI ER found that irrigation contributes 2.2 billion NZI ER found that irrigation contributes 2.2 billion to NZI ER found that irrigation contributes 2.2 billion to the contributes 2.2 billion to the national contributes 2.2 billion to the national economy contributes 2.2 billion to the national economy and contributes 2.2 billion to the national economy and this contributes 2.2 billion to the national economy and this has contributes 2.2 billion to the national economy and this has the national economy and this has the potential national economy and this has the potential to national economy and this has the potential to increase national economy and this has the potential to increase further, national economy and this has the potential to increase further, of potential to increase further, of course potential to increase further, of course in potential to increase further, of course in a potential to increase further, of course in a sustainable potential to increase further, of course in a sustainable way. potential to increase further, of course in a sustainable way. What course in a sustainable way. What specific course in a sustainable way. What specific announcements course in a sustainable way. What specific announcements has course in a sustainable way. What specific announcements has he course in a sustainable way. What specific announcements has he made specific announcements has he made about specific announcements has he made about support specific announcements has he made about support to specific announcements has he made about support to combat specific announcements has he made about support to combat animal specific announcements has he made about support to combat animal and about support to combat animal and horticultural about support to combat animal and horticultural disease? about support to combat animal and horticultural disease? Of about support to combat animal and horticultural disease? Of course, about support to combat animal and horticultural disease? Of course, we horticultural disease? Of course, we can't horticultural disease? Of course, we can't grow horticultural disease? Of course, we can't grow our horticultural disease? Of course, we can't grow our primary horticultural disease? Of course, we can't grow our primary sector can't grow our primary sector without can't grow our primary sector without protecting can't grow our primary sector without protecting it can't grow our primary sector without protecting it as can't grow our primary sector without protecting it as well, without protecting it as well, that's without protecting it as well, that's why without protecting it as well, that's why I've without protecting it as well, that's why I've announced without protecting it as well, that's why I've announced $1.2 that's why I've announced $1.2 million that's why I've announced $1.2 million of that's why I've announced $1.2 million of funding that's why I've announced $1.2 million of funding for that's why I've announced $1.2 million of funding for three million of funding for three projects million of funding for three projects to million of funding for three projects to combat million of funding for three projects to combat animal million of funding for three projects to combat animal and projects to combat animal and horticultural projects to combat animal and horticultural diseases. projects to combat animal and horticultural diseases. The projects to combat animal and horticultural diseases. The first horticultural diseases. The first will horticultural diseases. The first will look horticultural diseases. The first will look at horticultural diseases. The first will look at facial horticultural diseases. The first will look at facial eczema horticultural diseases. The first will look at facial eczema and horticultural diseases. The first will look at facial eczema and look will look at facial eczema and look at will look at facial eczema and look at guidance will look at facial eczema and look at guidance on will look at facial eczema and look at guidance on how will look at facial eczema and look at guidance on how to will look at facial eczema and look at guidance on how to best will look at facial eczema and look at guidance on how to best monitor at guidance on how to best monitor and at guidance on how to best monitor and manage at guidance on how to best monitor and manage the at guidance on how to best monitor and manage the disease. at guidance on how to best monitor and manage the disease. The at guidance on how to best monitor and manage the disease. The second and manage the disease. The second project and manage the disease. The second project looks and manage the disease. The second project looks at and manage the disease. The second project looks at helping and manage the disease. The second project looks at helping track and manage the disease. The second project looks at helping track and project looks at helping track and control project looks at helping track and control BVD, project looks at helping track and control BVD, which project looks at helping track and control BVD, which affects project looks at helping track and control BVD, which affects around control BVD, which affects around 80% control BVD, which affects around 80% of control BVD, which affects around 80% of New control BVD, which affects around 80% of New Zealand's control BVD, which affects around 80% of New Zealand's dairy control BVD, which affects around 80% of New Zealand's dairy and control BVD, which affects around 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and it 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and it is 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and it is estimated 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and it is estimated to 80% of New Zealand's dairy and beef herds, and it is estimated to cost herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy farmers herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy farmers at herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy farmers at around herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy farmers at around $100 herds, and it is estimated to cost dairy farmers at around $100 million dairy farmers at around $100 million a dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. The dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. The third dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. The third project dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. The third project aims dairy farmers at around $100 million a year. The third project aims to a year. The third project aims to reduce a year. The third project aims to reduce infection a year. The third project aims to reduce infection in a year. The third project aims to reduce infection in potato a year. The third project aims to reduce infection in potato seed reduce infection in potato seed tumours, reduce infection in potato seed tumours, and reduce infection in potato seed tumours, and reduce reduce infection in potato seed tumours, and reduce the reduce infection in potato seed tumours, and reduce the use reduce infection in potato seed tumours, and reduce the use of tumours, and reduce the use of agrichemicals. tumours, and reduce the use of agrichemicals. Question tumours, and reduce the use of agrichemicals. Question No. tumours, and reduce the use of agrichemicals. Question No. 10. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does she My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Does she stand Social Development: Does she stand by Social Development: Does she stand by all Social Development: Does she stand by all her Social Development: Does she stand by all her statements? Yes, Yes, in Yes, in the Yes, in the context Yes, in the context in Yes, in the context in which Yes, in the context in which they Yes, in the context in which they were Yes, in the context in which they were made. Yes, in the context in which they were made. Does Yes, in the context in which they were made. Does she Yes, in the context in which they were made. Does she stand Yes, in the context in which they were made. Does she stand by Yes, in the context in which they were made. Does she stand by her were made. Does she stand by her statement, were made. Does she stand by her statement, "The were made. Does she stand by her statement, "The research were made. Does she stand by her statement, "The research tells were made. Does she stand by her statement, "The research tells us, statement, "The research tells us, dealing statement, "The research tells us, dealing with statement, "The research tells us, dealing with 17-year-olds statement, "The research tells us, dealing with 17-year-olds in statement, "The research tells us, dealing with 17-year-olds in the dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth justice dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth justice system, dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth justice system, offers dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth justice system, offers us dealing with 17-year-olds in the youth justice system, offers us to youth justice system, offers us to best youth justice system, offers us to best opportunity youth justice system, offers us to best opportunity to youth justice system, offers us to best opportunity to break youth justice system, offers us to best opportunity to break that youth justice system, offers us to best opportunity to break that cycle best opportunity to break that cycle of best opportunity to break that cycle of reoffending best opportunity to break that cycle of reoffending and best opportunity to break that cycle of reoffending and help best opportunity to break that cycle of reoffending and help those best opportunity to break that cycle of reoffending and help those people of reoffending and help those people grow of reoffending and help those people grow into of reoffending and help those people grow into responsible of reoffending and help those people grow into responsible adults"? of reoffending and help those people grow into responsible adults"? If grow into responsible adults"? If so, grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. How grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. How can grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. How can she grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. How can she sign grow into responsible adults"? If so, why? Yes. How can she sign off so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a change so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a change in so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a change in the so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a change in the Youth so, why? Yes. How can she sign off on a change in the Youth Court so, why? Yes. 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Over the last eight years, there has investment in school property. 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In the last few years, we've moved on more than 30 new schools. In the last few years, we've moved on more than 30 major we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments worth we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments worth close we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments worth close to we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments worth close to half we've moved on more than 30 major redevelopments worth close to half a redevelopments worth close to half a billion redevelopments worth close to half a billion dollars. redevelopments worth close to half a billion dollars. Since redevelopments worth close to half a billion dollars. Since 2014 redevelopments worth close to half a billion dollars. Since 2014 we've billion dollars. Since 2014 we've spent billion dollars. Since 2014 we've spent around billion dollars. Since 2014 we've spent around 300 billion dollars. Since 2014 we've spent around 300 million billion dollars. Since 2014 we've spent around 300 million on spent around 300 million on additional spent around 300 million on additional classrooms spent around 300 million on additional classrooms to spent around 300 million on additional classrooms to help additional classrooms to help schools additional classrooms to help schools manage additional classrooms to help schools manage growth. additional classrooms to help schools manage growth. This additional classrooms to help schools manage growth. This is additional classrooms to help schools manage growth. This is a schools manage growth. This is a Government schools manage growth. This is a Government that schools manage growth. This is a Government that is schools manage growth. This is a Government that is building schools manage growth. This is a Government that is building for Government that is building for growth, Government that is building for growth, improving Government that is building for growth, improving the Government that is building for growth, improving the quality Government that is building for growth, improving the quality of Government that is building for growth, improving the quality of our growth, improving the quality of our schools growth, improving the quality of our schools and growth, improving the quality of our schools and ensuring growth, improving the quality of our schools and ensuring all growth, improving the quality of our schools and ensuring all students schools and ensuring all students have schools and ensuring all students have somewhere schools and ensuring all students have somewhere healthy schools and ensuring all students have somewhere healthy and schools and ensuring all students have somewhere healthy and safe schools and ensuring all students have somewhere healthy and safe to have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. What have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. What updates have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. What updates has have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. What updates has the have somewhere healthy and safe to learn. What updates has the minister learn. What updates has the minister received learn. What updates has the minister received about learn. What updates has the minister received about progress learn. What updates has the minister received about progress on learn. What updates has the minister received about progress on the received about progress on the Christchurch received about progress on the Christchurch schools received about progress on the Christchurch schools rebuild Christchurch schools rebuild programme? Christchurch schools rebuild programme? In Christchurch schools rebuild programme? In November Christchurch schools rebuild programme? In November 2013, Christchurch schools rebuild programme? In November 2013, the programme? In November 2013, the Government programme? In November 2013, the Government committed programme? In November 2013, the Government committed $1.137 programme? 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I can rejuvenate the education network in greater Christchurch. I can confirm greater Christchurch. I can confirm that greater Christchurch. I can confirm that the greater Christchurch. I can confirm that the programme greater Christchurch. I can confirm that the programme is greater Christchurch. I can confirm that the programme is proceeding greater Christchurch. I can confirm that the programme is proceeding on that the programme is proceeding on schedule that the programme is proceeding on schedule and that the programme is proceeding on schedule and within that the programme is proceeding on schedule and within budget. that the programme is proceeding on schedule and within budget. It schedule and within budget. It compromises schedule and within budget. It compromises a schedule and within budget. It compromises a total schedule and within budget. It compromises a total of schedule and within budget. It compromises a total of 115 schedule and within budget. It compromises a total of 115 schools, compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built on compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built on new compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built on new sites, compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built on new sites, ten compromises a total of 115 schools, 13 to be built on new sites, ten to 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be built 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be built on 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be built on existing 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be built on existing sites, 13 to be built on new sites, ten to be built on existing sites, 34 be built on existing sites, 34 schools be built on existing sites, 34 schools to be built on existing sites, 34 schools to be be built on existing sites, 34 schools to be fully be built on existing sites, 34 schools to be fully redeveloped be built on existing sites, 34 schools to be fully redeveloped and schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 to schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 to be schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 to be moderately schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 to be moderately redeveloped. schools to be fully redeveloped and 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To date, 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To date, ten 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To date, ten schools 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To date, ten schools are 58 to be moderately redeveloped. To date, ten schools are complete, 58 to be moderately redeveloped. 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Order! the hard-working local Selwyn MP, the Hon Amy Adams. Order! What the Hon Amy Adams. Order! What recent the Hon Amy Adams. Order! What recent announcements the Hon Amy Adams. Order! What recent announcements has the Hon Amy Adams. Order! What recent announcements has the recent announcements has the minister recent announcements has the minister made recent announcements has the minister made regarding recent announcements has the minister made regarding school minister made regarding school property minister made regarding school property in minister made regarding school property in New minister made regarding school property in New Plymouth? minister made regarding school property in New Plymouth? On minister made regarding school property in New Plymouth? On Monday, property in New Plymouth? On Monday, I property in New Plymouth? On Monday, I announced property in New Plymouth? On Monday, I announced that property in New Plymouth? 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I would like to thank that member for attending to thank that member for attending the to thank that member for attending the sod to thank that member for attending the sod turns to thank that member for attending the sod turns on to thank that member for attending the sod turns on behalf to thank that member for attending the sod turns on behalf of to thank that member for attending the sod turns on behalf of myself the sod turns on behalf of myself and the sod turns on behalf of myself and for the sod turns on behalf of myself and for his the sod turns on behalf of myself and for his dedication the sod turns on behalf of myself and for his dedication to the sod turns on behalf of myself and for his dedication to the the sod turns on behalf of myself and for his dedication to the needs and for his dedication to the needs in and for his dedication to the needs in his and for his dedication to the needs in his area. and for his dedication to the needs in his area. Question and for his dedication to the needs in his area. Question No. and for his dedication to the needs in his area. Question No. 12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: Is My question is to the Minister of Health: Is he My question is to the Minister of Health: Is he confident My question is to the Minister of Health: Is he confident that My question is to the Minister of Health: Is he confident that new Health: Is he confident that new mothers Health: Is he confident that new mothers are Health: Is he confident that new mothers are being Health: Is he confident that new mothers are being supported Health: Is he confident that new mothers are being supported in mothers are being supported in public mothers are being supported in public hospitals? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the Minister On behalf of the Minister of On behalf of the Minister of Health, On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, absolutely. On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, absolutely. Our On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, absolutely. Our Government yes, absolutely. Our Government prioritises yes, absolutely. Our Government prioritises the yes, absolutely. Our Government prioritises the health yes, absolutely. Our Government prioritises the health of yes, absolutely. Our Government prioritises the health of mothers prioritises the health of mothers and prioritises the health of mothers and babies prioritises the health of mothers and babies but, prioritises the health of mothers and babies but, as prioritises the health of mothers and babies but, as always prioritises the health of mothers and babies but, as always in prioritises the health of mothers and babies but, as always in health, and babies but, as always in health, we're and babies but, as always in health, we're keen and babies but, as always in health, we're keen to and babies but, as always in health, we're keen to continue and babies but, as always in health, we're keen to continue to and babies but, as always in health, we're keen to continue to improve we're keen to continue to improve our we're keen to continue to improve our services we're keen to continue to improve our services to we're keen to continue to improve our services to meet we're keen to continue to improve our services to meet the our services to meet the expectations our services to meet the expectations of our services to meet the expectations of every our services to meet the expectations of every new our services to meet the expectations of every new mother. our services to meet the expectations of every new mother. Is expectations of every new mother. Is he expectations of every new mother. Is he confident expectations of every new mother. Is he confident that expectations of every new mother. Is he confident that the expectations of every new mother. Is he confident that the DHBs expectations of every new mother. Is he confident that the DHBs have he confident that the DHBs have enough he confident that the DHBs have enough funding he confident that the DHBs have enough funding to he confident that the DHBs have enough funding to ensure he confident that the DHBs have enough funding to ensure that he confident that the DHBs have enough funding to ensure that there enough funding to ensure that there are enough funding to ensure that there are enough enough funding to ensure that there are enough midwives enough funding to ensure that there are enough midwives rostered enough funding to ensure that there are enough midwives rostered on enough funding to ensure that there are enough midwives rostered on in are enough midwives rostered on in the are enough midwives rostered on in the weekends are enough midwives rostered on in the weekends and are enough midwives rostered on in the weekends and after-hours are enough midwives rostered on in the weekends and after-hours in the weekends and after-hours in hospital the weekends and after-hours in hospital when the weekends and after-hours in hospital when new the weekends and after-hours in hospital when new mothers the weekends and after-hours in hospital when new mothers like the weekends and after-hours in hospital when new mothers like Mary hospital when new mothers like Mary allow hospital when new mothers like Mary allow Harris hospital when new mothers like Mary allow Harris who hospital when new mothers like Mary allow Harris who experience allow Harris who experience complications allow Harris who experience complications at allow Harris who experience complications at birth allow Harris who experience complications at birth are allow Harris who experience complications at birth are left complications at birth are left unsupported complications at birth are left unsupported overnight complications at birth are left unsupported overnight and complications at birth are left unsupported overnight and feel unsupported overnight and feel unsafe unsupported overnight and feel unsafe because unsupported overnight and feel unsafe because nurses unsupported overnight and feel unsafe because nurses are unsupported overnight and feel unsafe because nurses are too unsafe because nurses are too overstretched unsafe because nurses are too overstretched on unsafe because nurses are too overstretched on wards? unsafe because nurses are too overstretched on wards? On unsafe because nurses are too overstretched on wards? On behalf unsafe because nurses are too overstretched on wards? On behalf of overstretched on wards? On behalf of the overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister of overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister of Health, overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, we overstretched on wards? On behalf of the Minister of Health, yes, we are. the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There are the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There are 1,377 the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There are 1,377 midwives the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There are 1,377 midwives working the Minister of Health, yes, we are. There are 1,377 midwives working in There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across the There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across the country There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across the country and There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across the country and that There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs across the country and that is DHBs across the country and that is a DHBs across the country and that is a record. DHBs across the country and that is a record. 2,980 DHBs across the country and that is a record. 2,980 more DHBs across the country and that is a record. 2,980 more midwives a record. 2,980 more midwives working a record. 2,980 more midwives working in a record. 2,980 more midwives working in our a record. 2,980 more midwives working in our health a record. 2,980 more midwives working in our health system. a record. 2,980 more midwives working in our health system. Now, working in our health system. Now, the working in our health system. Now, the ministry working in our health system. Now, the ministry is working in our health system. Now, the ministry is aware working in our health system. Now, the ministry is aware there working in our health system. Now, the ministry is aware there are working in our health system. Now, the ministry is aware there are some the ministry is aware there are some urban the ministry is aware there are some urban DHBs the ministry is aware there are some urban DHBs who the ministry is aware there are some urban DHBs who experience the ministry is aware there are some urban DHBs who experience difficulty urban DHBs who experience difficulty recruiting urban DHBs who experience difficulty recruiting sufficient urban DHBs who experience difficulty recruiting sufficient midwives urban DHBs who experience difficulty recruiting sufficient midwives but recruiting sufficient midwives but this recruiting sufficient midwives but this is recruiting sufficient midwives but this is a recruiting sufficient midwives but this is a distribution recruiting sufficient midwives but this is a distribution issue recruiting sufficient midwives but this is a distribution issue rather this is a distribution issue rather than this is a distribution issue rather than an this is a distribution issue rather than an issue this is a distribution issue rather than an issue of this is a distribution issue rather than an issue of short this is a distribution issue rather than an issue of short supply this is a distribution issue rather than an issue of short supply and than an issue of short supply and the than an issue of short supply and the ministry than an issue of short supply and the ministry has than an issue of short supply and the ministry has a than an issue of short supply and the ministry has a number than an issue of short supply and the ministry has a number of the ministry has a number of initiatives the ministry has a number of initiatives to the ministry has a number of initiatives to support the ministry has a number of initiatives to support local initiatives to support local midwives, initiatives to support local midwives, new initiatives to support local midwives, new graduate initiatives to support local midwives, new graduate midwives, initiatives to support local midwives, new graduate midwives, for midwives, new graduate midwives, for the midwives, new graduate midwives, for the voluntary midwives, new graduate midwives, for the voluntary bonding midwives, new graduate midwives, for the voluntary bonding and midwives, new graduate midwives, for the voluntary bonding and locum the voluntary bonding and locum support the voluntary bonding and locum support and the voluntary bonding and locum support and we're the voluntary bonding and locum support and we're also the voluntary bonding and locum support and we're also successfully support and we're also successfully recruiting support and we're also successfully recruiting overseas. support and we're also successfully recruiting overseas. Does support and we're also successfully recruiting overseas. Does he support and we're also successfully recruiting overseas. Does he accept recruiting overseas. Does he accept responsibility recruiting overseas. Does he accept responsibility for recruiting overseas. Does he accept responsibility for the recruiting overseas. Does he accept responsibility for the fall, recruiting overseas. Does he accept responsibility for the fall, since responsibility for the fall, since 2013, responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in the responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in the number responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in the number of responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in the number of midwives responsibility for the fall, since 2013, in the number of midwives per 2013, in the number of midwives per capita 2013, in the number of midwives per capita employed 2013, in the number of midwives per capita employed by 2013, in the number of midwives per capita employed by DHBs 2013, in the number of midwives per capita employed by DHBs under 2013, in the number of midwives per capita employed by DHBs under his capita employed by DHBs under his watch? capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know that capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know that the capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know that the member capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know that the member is capita employed by DHBs under his watch? I know that the member is new watch? I know that the member is new to watch? I know that the member is new to health, watch? I know that the member is new to health, but watch? I know that the member is new to health, but he watch? I know that the member is new to health, but he may watch? I know that the member is new to health, but he may not watch? I know that the member is new to health, but he may not have watch? I know that the member is new to health, but he may not have heard to health, but he may not have heard what to health, but he may not have heard what I to health, but he may not have heard what I said. to health, but he may not have heard what I said. There to health, but he may not have heard what I said. There are to health, but he may not have heard what I said. There are 1,377 what I said. There are 1,377 midwives what I said. There are 1,377 midwives working what I said. There are 1,377 midwives working in what I said. There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs, what I said. There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs, and what I said. There are 1,377 midwives working in DHBs, and a midwives working in DHBs, and a record midwives working in DHBs, and a record 2,980 midwives working in DHBs, and a record 2,980 working midwives working in DHBs, and a record 2,980 working in midwives working in DHBs, and a record 2,980 working in our midwives working in DHBs, and a record 2,980 working in our health record 2,980 working in our health system. record 2,980 working in our health system. <INTERRUPTION> system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! I'll system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! I'll just system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! I'll just recover system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! I'll just recover after system. <INTERRUPTION> Order! I'll just recover after that Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Mr Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Mr Speaker! Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Mr Speaker! Give Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me Order! I'll just recover after that put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute to put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute to compose put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute to compose myself, put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute to compose myself, please. put-down, Mr Speaker! Give me a minute to compose myself, please. If minute to compose myself, please. If the minute to compose myself, please. If the member minute to compose myself, please. If the member needs minute to compose myself, please. If the member needs time minute to compose myself, please. If the member needs time to minute to compose myself, please. If the member needs time to take minute to compose myself, please. If the member needs time to take a the member needs time to take a spell, the member needs time to take a spell, we the member needs time to take a spell, we will the member needs time to take a spell, we will be the member needs time to take a spell, we will be moving the member needs time to take a spell, we will be moving on. the member needs time to take a spell, we will be moving on. Does the member needs time to take a spell, we will be moving on. Does he spell, we will be moving on. Does he think spell, we will be moving on. Does he think it spell, we will be moving on. Does he think it is spell, we will be moving on. Does he think it is acceptable spell, we will be moving on. Does he think it is acceptable that spell, we will be moving on. Does he think it is acceptable that new think it is acceptable that new mother, think it is acceptable that new mother, Lisa think it is acceptable that new mother, Lisa Cullinow, think it is acceptable that new mother, Lisa Cullinow, who think it is acceptable that new mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed think it is acceptable that new mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the bathroom mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the bathroom and mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the bathroom and had mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the bathroom and had just mother, Lisa Cullinow, who needed to go to the bathroom and had just had go to the bathroom and had just had a go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, was go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, was told go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, was told by go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, was told by a go to the bathroom and had just had a caesarean, was told by a nurse a caesarean, was told by a nurse that a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed to a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed to move a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed to move and a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed to move and put a caesarean, was told by a nurse that she needed to move and put the that she needed to move and put the son that she needed to move and put the son back that she needed to move and put the son back in that she needed to move and put the son back in the that she needed to move and put the son back in the cot that she needed to move and put the son back in the cot by that she needed to move and put the son back in the cot by herself, that she needed to move and put the son back in the cot by herself, the son back in the cot by herself, the nurse son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said she son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said she had son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said she had to son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said she had to do son back in the cot by herself, the nurse said she had to do that, nurse said she had to do that, "Because nurse said she had to do that, "Because we nurse said she had to do that, "Because we are nurse said she had to do that, "Because we are understaffed". nurse said she had to do that, "Because we are understaffed". On "Because we are understaffed". On behalf "Because we are understaffed". On behalf of "Because we are understaffed". On behalf of the "Because we are understaffed". On behalf of the Minister "Because we are understaffed". On behalf of the Minister of "Because we are understaffed". 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care has not met the expectations of circumstances where our health care has not met the expectations of all has not met the expectations of all mothers, has not met the expectations of all mothers, but has not met the expectations of all mothers, but I'd has not met the expectations of all mothers, but I'd like has not met the expectations of all mothers, but I'd like to has not met the expectations of all mothers, but I'd like to report has not met the expectations of all mothers, but I'd like to report what mothers, but I'd like to report what the mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is and mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is and we mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is and we have, mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is and we have, our mothers, but I'd like to report what the norm is and we have, our survey the norm is and we have, our survey says, the norm is and we have, our survey says, 85% the norm is and we have, our survey says, 85% of the norm is and we have, our survey says, 85% of mothers, the norm is and we have, our survey says, 85% of mothers, new the norm is and we have, our survey says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report that says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report that they says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report that they are says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report that they are satisfied says, 85% of mothers, new mothers, report that they are satisfied or report that they are satisfied or very report that they are satisfied or very satisfied report that they are satisfied or very satisfied with report that they are satisfied or very satisfied with the report that they are satisfied or very satisfied with the time report that they are satisfied or very satisfied with the time at very satisfied with the time at labour very satisfied with the time at labour and very satisfied with the time at labour and birth. very satisfied with the time at labour and birth. 90% very satisfied with the time at labour and birth. 90% of very satisfied with the time at labour and birth. 90% of new very satisfied with the time at labour and birth. 90% of new mothers labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that they labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that they were labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that they were confident labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that they were confident or labour and birth. 90% of new mothers say that they were confident or very say that they were confident or very confident say that they were confident or very confident of say that they were confident or very confident of the say that they were confident or very confident of the skills say that they were confident or very confident of the skills of say that they were confident or very confident of the skills of the say that they were confident or very confident of the skills of the care confident of the skills of the care that confident of the skills of the care that they're confident of the skills of the care that they're getting confident of the skills of the care that they're getting in confident of the skills of the care that they're getting in hospital, that they're getting in hospital, and that they're getting in hospital, and 80% that they're getting in hospital, and 80% of that they're getting in hospital, and 80% of them that they're getting in hospital, and 80% of them were that they're getting in hospital, and 80% of them were satisfied, that they're getting in hospital, and 80% of them were satisfied, or and 80% of them were satisfied, or very and 80% of them were satisfied, or very satisfied, and 80% of them were satisfied, or very satisfied, with and 80% of them were satisfied, or very satisfied, with the and 80% of them were satisfied, or very satisfied, with the overall very satisfied, with the overall call very satisfied, with the overall call that very satisfied, with the overall call that they very satisfied, with the overall call that they received very satisfied, with the overall call that they received after very satisfied, with the overall call that they received after their call that they received after their birth. call that they received after their birth. 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They tell me that they are working very hard and that they are working very hard and delivering that they are working very hard and delivering better that they are working very hard and delivering better health that they are working very hard and delivering better health for that they are working very hard and delivering better health for mothers delivering better health for mothers and delivering better health for mothers and babies delivering better health for mothers and babies and delivering better health for mothers and babies and certainly delivering better health for mothers and babies and certainly we delivering better health for mothers and babies and certainly we are and babies and certainly we are resourcing and babies and certainly we are resourcing them and babies and certainly we are resourcing them to and babies and certainly we are resourcing them to do and babies and certainly we are resourcing them to do so. and babies and certainly we are resourcing them to do so. What resourcing them to do so. What responsibility resourcing them to do so. What responsibility does resourcing them to do so. What responsibility does he resourcing them to do so. What responsibility does he take resourcing them to do so. What responsibility does he take for resourcing them to do so. What responsibility does he take for the responsibility does he take for the significant responsibility does he take for the significant funding responsibility does he take for the significant funding problem responsibility does he take for the significant funding problem that significant funding problem that sees significant funding problem that sees Waikato significant funding problem that sees Waikato DHB significant funding problem that sees Waikato DHB 22 significant funding problem that sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives down sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives down and sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives down and Capital sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives down and Capital & sees Waikato DHB 22 full-time midwives down and Capital & Coast midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB nine midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB nine midwives midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB nine midwives down midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB nine midwives down and midwives down and Capital & Coast DHB nine midwives down and where DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs like DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs like Waikato DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs like Waikato are DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs like Waikato are expected DHB nine midwives down and where DHBs like Waikato are expected to DHBs like Waikato are expected to make DHBs like Waikato are expected to make savings DHBs like Waikato are expected to make savings and DHBs like Waikato are expected to make savings and nurse DHBs like Waikato are expected to make savings and nurse vacancies DHBs like Waikato are expected to make savings and nurse vacancies to make savings and nurse vacancies to manage make savings and nurse vacancies to manage their make savings and nurse vacancies to manage their deficit make savings and nurse vacancies to manage their deficit and make savings and nurse vacancies to manage their deficit and is make savings and nurse vacancies to manage their deficit and is he manage their deficit and is he confident manage their deficit and is he confident that manage their deficit and is he confident that all manage their deficit and is he confident that all funds manage their deficit and is he confident that all funds allocated confident that all funds allocated to confident that all funds allocated to DHBs confident that all funds allocated to DHBs for confident that all funds allocated to DHBs for maternity confident that all funds allocated to DHBs for maternity services confident that all funds allocated to DHBs for maternity services are to DHBs for maternity services are entirely to DHBs for maternity services are entirely being to DHBs for maternity services are entirely being spent to DHBs for maternity services are entirely being spent on to DHBs for maternity services are entirely being spent on maternity entirely being spent on maternity services entirely being spent on maternity services and entirely being spent on maternity services and not entirely being spent on maternity services and not being entirely being spent on maternity services and not being used entirely being spent on maternity services and not being used to entirely being spent on maternity services and not being used to fund services and not being used to fund other services and not being used to fund other overstretched services and not being used to fund other overstretched services? services and not being used to fund other overstretched services? Yes, other overstretched services? Yes, we other overstretched services? Yes, we are other overstretched services? Yes, we are sure other overstretched services? Yes, we are sure that other overstretched services? Yes, we are sure that they other overstretched services? Yes, we are sure that they are other overstretched services? 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