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Those Those petitions Those petitions stand Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee Those petitions stand referred to a select committee allocated Those petitions stand referred to a select committee allocated by Those petitions stand referred to a select committee allocated by the select committee allocated by the Clerk. I I present I present the I present the report I present the report of I present the report of the I present the report of the Controller I present the report of the Controller and I present the report of the Controller and Auditor-General Controller and Auditor-General entitled Controller and Auditor-General entitled Local Controller and Auditor-General entitled Local Government: Controller and Auditor-General entitled Local Government: Results entitled Local Government: Results of entitled Local Government: Results of the entitled Local Government: Results of the 2015/16 entitled Local Government: Results of the 2015/16 audits. That That paper That paper is That paper is published That paper is published under That paper is published under the That paper is published under the authority That paper is published under the authority of That paper is published under the authority of the That paper is published under the authority of the House. That paper is published under the authority of the House. A That paper is published under the authority of the House. A select authority of the House. A select committee authority of the House. A select committee report authority of the House. A select committee report has authority of the House. A select committee report has been authority of the House. A select committee report has been delivered committee report has been delivered for committee report has been delivered for presentation. Report Report of Report of the Report of the Government Report of the Government Administration Report of the Government Administration Committee Administration Committee on Administration Committee on the Administration Committee on the Electronic Administration Committee on the Electronic Interactions on the Electronic Interactions Reform on the Electronic Interactions Reform Bill on the Electronic Interactions Reform Bill (175-2). Reform Bill (175-2). The Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill is Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill is set Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill is set down Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill is set down for Reform Bill (175-2). The Bill is set down for second The Bill is set down for second reading. No No bills No bills have No bills have been No bills have been introduced. No bills have been introduced. The No bills have been introduced. The House No bills have been introduced. The House comes No bills have been introduced. The House comes to No bills have been introduced. The House comes to Oral No bills have been introduced. The House comes to Oral Questions No bills have been introduced. The House comes to Oral Questions and House comes to Oral Questions and the House comes to Oral Questions and the first House comes to Oral Questions and the first question House comes to Oral Questions and the first question is House comes to Oral Questions and the first question is in House comes to Oral Questions and the first question is in the House comes to Oral Questions and the first question is in the name House comes to Oral Questions and the first question is in the name of the first question is in the name of Alastair the first question is in the name of Alastair Scott. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: How My question is to the Minister of Finance: How is My question is to the Minister of Finance: How is the My question is to the Minister of Finance: How is the construction of Finance: How is the construction sector of Finance: How is the construction sector contributing sector contributing to sector contributing to New sector contributing to New Zealand's sector contributing to New Zealand's economic sector contributing to New Zealand's economic growth? 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Activity housing growth is a very big part of that story. Activity in housing growth is a very big part of that story. Activity in the that story. Activity in the construction that story. Activity in the construction sector that story. Activity in the construction sector rose that story. Activity in the construction sector rose 1.8% that story. Activity in the construction sector rose 1.8% last construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and was construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and was up construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and was up 10.5% construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and was up 10.5% for construction sector rose 1.8% last quarter and was up 10.5% for the quarter and was up 10.5% for the year quarter and was up 10.5% for the year to quarter and was up 10.5% for the year to December quarter and was up 10.5% for the year to December 2016. quarter and was up 10.5% for the year to December 2016. This quarter and was up 10.5% for the year to December 2016. This annual year to December 2016. This annual rise year to December 2016. This annual rise in year to December 2016. This annual rise in construction year to December 2016. This annual rise in construction activity year to December 2016. This annual rise in construction activity was rise in construction activity was the rise in construction activity was the highest rise in construction activity was the highest since rise in construction activity was the highest since 2004. the highest since 2004. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Confidence <INTERRUPTION> Confidence in <INTERRUPTION> Confidence in the <INTERRUPTION> Confidence in the construction Confidence in the construction industry Confidence in the construction industry remains Confidence in the construction industry remains strong, Confidence in the construction industry remains strong, with Confidence in the construction industry remains strong, with a Confidence in the construction industry remains strong, with a net industry remains strong, with a net 23% industry remains strong, with a net 23% positive industry remains strong, with a net 23% positive rating industry remains strong, with a net 23% positive rating for industry remains strong, with a net 23% positive rating for commercial 23% positive rating for commercial construction 23% positive rating for commercial construction and 23% positive rating for commercial construction and a 23% positive rating for commercial construction and a net 23% positive rating for commercial construction and a net 25% 23% positive rating for commercial construction and a net 25% positive construction and a net 25% positive rating construction and a net 25% positive rating for construction and a net 25% positive rating for residential construction and a net 25% positive rating for residential construction. rating for residential construction. All rating for residential construction. All signs rating for residential construction. All signs indicate rating for residential construction. All signs indicate a rating for residential construction. All signs indicate a heightened All signs indicate a heightened level All signs indicate a heightened level of All signs indicate a heightened level of construction All signs indicate a heightened level of construction activity All signs indicate a heightened level of construction activity for level of construction activity for some level of construction activity for some time level of construction activity for some time into level of construction activity for some time into the level of construction activity for some time into the future. level of construction activity for some time into the future. How level of construction activity for some time into the future. How is some time into the future. How is this some time into the future. How is this heightened some time into the future. How is this heightened level some time into the future. How is this heightened level of this heightened level of construction this heightened level of construction activity this heightened level of construction activity flowing construction activity flowing through construction activity flowing through into construction activity flowing through into consents construction activity flowing through into consents and construction activity flowing through into consents and real through into consents and real estate through into consents and real estate listings? through into consents and real estate listings? Residential estate listings? Residential building estate listings? Residential building consents estate listings? Residential building consents posted estate listings? Residential building consents posted their building consents posted their biggest building consents posted their biggest monthly building consents posted their biggest monthly gain building consents posted their biggest monthly gain in building consents posted their biggest monthly gain in the building consents posted their biggest monthly gain in the eight biggest monthly gain in the eight months biggest monthly gain in the eight months to biggest monthly gain in the eight months to February. biggest monthly gain in the eight months to February. Sorry, biggest monthly gain in the eight months to February. Sorry, in biggest monthly gain in the eight months to February. Sorry, in eight months to February. Sorry, in eight months months to February. Sorry, in eight months in months to February. Sorry, in eight months in February. months to February. Sorry, in eight months in February. New months to February. Sorry, in eight months in February. New housing months in February. New housing permits months in February. New housing permits jumped months in February. New housing permits jumped 14%. months in February. New housing permits jumped 14%. Dwelling permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents also permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents also rose permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents also rose 14%, permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents also rose 14%, and permits jumped 14%. Dwelling consents also rose 14%, and annual consents also rose 14%, and annual new consents also rose 14%, and annual new house consents also rose 14%, and annual new house consents consents also rose 14%, and annual new house consents gained consents also rose 14%, and annual new house consents gained 9.1% consents also rose 14%, and annual new house consents gained 9.1% in new house consents gained 9.1% in the new house consents gained 9.1% in the year. new house consents gained 9.1% in the year. There new house consents gained 9.1% in the year. There is new house consents gained 9.1% in the year. There is also new house consents gained 9.1% in the year. There is also promising the year. There is also promising news the year. There is also promising news for the year. There is also promising news for homebuyers the year. There is also promising news for homebuyers across the year. There is also promising news for homebuyers across New news for homebuyers across New Zealand news for homebuyers across New Zealand - news for homebuyers across New Zealand - real news for homebuyers across New Zealand - real estate news for homebuyers across New Zealand - real estate listings news for homebuyers across New Zealand - real estate listings for Zealand - real estate listings for March Zealand - real estate listings for March was Zealand - real estate listings for March was up Zealand - real estate listings for March was up 10% Zealand - real estate listings for March was up 10% on Zealand - real estate listings for March was up 10% on the Zealand - real estate listings for March was up 10% on the year Zealand - real estate listings for March was up 10% on the year before, March was up 10% on the year before, and March was up 10% on the year before, and REINZ March was up 10% on the year before, and REINZ data March was up 10% on the year before, and REINZ data showed March was up 10% on the year before, and REINZ data showed Auckland's and REINZ data showed Auckland's median and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price was and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price was down and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price was down 9% and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price was down 9% from and REINZ data showed Auckland's median price was down 9% from six median price was down 9% from six months median price was down 9% from six months ago median price was down 9% from six months ago and median price was down 9% from six months ago and unchanged median price was down 9% from six months ago and unchanged from median price was down 9% from six months ago and unchanged from nine months ago and unchanged from nine months months ago and unchanged from nine months ago. months ago and unchanged from nine months ago. 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While we should not yet read too much into these figures, I read too much into these figures, I would read too much into these figures, I would again read too much into these figures, I would again underline read too much into these figures, I would again underline to read too much into these figures, I would again underline to potential would again underline to potential house would again underline to potential house buyers would again underline to potential house buyers to would again underline to potential house buyers to think would again underline to potential house buyers to think carefully house buyers to think carefully about house buyers to think carefully about their house buyers to think carefully about their price house buyers to think carefully about their price and house buyers to think carefully about their price and interest house buyers to think carefully about their price and interest rate about their price and interest rate expectations. about their price and interest rate expectations. In about their price and interest rate expectations. In what about their price and interest rate expectations. In what possible about their price and interest rate expectations. In what possible world expectations. In what possible world would expectations. In what possible world would growth expectations. In what possible world would growth in expectations. In what possible world would growth in the expectations. In what possible world would growth in the construction would growth in the construction sector would growth in the construction sector not would growth in the construction sector not be would growth in the construction sector not be related would growth in the construction sector not be related to would growth in the construction sector not be related to growth would growth in the construction sector not be related to growth in sector not be related to growth in consents sector not be related to growth in consents and sector not be related to growth in consents and new sector not be related to growth in consents and new house sector not be related to growth in consents and new house listings? consents and new house listings? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Well, <INTERRUPTION> Well, I <INTERRUPTION> Well, I think <INTERRUPTION> Well, I think that's <INTERRUPTION> Well, I think that's exactly <INTERRUPTION> Well, I think that's exactly my Well, I think that's exactly my point, Well, I think that's exactly my point, is Well, I think that's exactly my point, is that Well, I think that's exactly my point, is that the Well, I think that's exactly my point, is that the level Well, I think that's exactly my point, is that the level of point, is that the level of construction point, is that the level of construction activity point, is that the level of construction activity and point, is that the level of construction activity and ongoing construction activity and ongoing levels construction activity and ongoing levels of construction activity and ongoing levels of consent construction activity and ongoing levels of consent activity construction activity and ongoing levels of consent activity indicates levels of consent activity indicates a levels of consent activity indicates a very levels of consent activity indicates a very large levels of consent activity indicates a very large construction levels of consent activity indicates a very large construction pipeline a very large construction pipeline underway a very large construction pipeline underway not a very large construction pipeline underway not just a very large construction pipeline underway not just in a very large construction pipeline underway not just in Auckland, a very large construction pipeline underway not just in Auckland, but underway not just in Auckland, but across underway not just in Auckland, but across the underway not just in Auckland, but across the country. underway not just in Auckland, but across the country. What underway not just in Auckland, but across the country. What is underway not just in Auckland, but across the country. What is the across the country. What is the latest across the country. What is the latest advice across the country. What is the latest advice he across the country. What is the latest advice he has across the country. What is the latest advice he has on across the country. What is the latest advice he has on the latest advice he has on the shortfall latest advice he has on the shortfall of latest advice he has on the shortfall of houses latest advice he has on the shortfall of houses in latest advice he has on the shortfall of houses in Auckland, latest advice he has on the shortfall of houses in Auckland, and shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it closer shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it closer to shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it closer to 30,000, shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 shortfall of houses in Auckland, and is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000? is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000? Well, is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000? Well, it is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000? Well, it all is it closer to 30,000, 40,000 or 50,000? 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So, it does change quite dramatically. So, for it does change quite dramatically. So, for example, it does change quite dramatically. So, for example, we it does change quite dramatically. So, for example, we have it does change quite dramatically. 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So next year, that's according to Collier's. So people next year, that's according to Collier's. So people can next year, that's according to Collier's. So people can debate next year, that's according to Collier's. So people can debate all Collier's. So people can debate all they Collier's. So people can debate all they like Collier's. So people can debate all they like about Collier's. So people can debate all they like about shortages, Collier's. So people can debate all they like about shortages, but Collier's. So people can debate all they like about shortages, but the they like about shortages, but the reality they like about shortages, but the reality is they like about shortages, but the reality is the they like about shortages, but the reality is the supply they like about shortages, but the reality is the supply response they like about shortages, but the reality is the supply response is reality is the supply response is very reality is the supply response is very strong. reality is the supply response is very strong. How reality is the supply response is very strong. How is reality is the supply response is very strong. How is the reality is the supply response is very strong. How is the Government very strong. How is the Government supporting very strong. How is the Government supporting councils very strong. How is the Government supporting councils to very strong. How is the Government supporting councils to facilitate supporting councils to facilitate residential supporting councils to facilitate residential developments? supporting councils to facilitate residential developments? The residential developments? The Government residential developments? The Government is residential developments? The Government is continuing residential developments? The Government is continuing to residential developments? The Government is continuing to support Government is continuing to support local Government is continuing to support local councils Government is continuing to support local councils to Government is continuing to support local councils to deliver Government is continuing to support local councils to deliver the local councils to deliver the infrastructure local councils to deliver the infrastructure required local councils to deliver the infrastructure required to local councils to deliver the infrastructure required to service infrastructure required to service new infrastructure required to service new residential infrastructure required to service new residential developments, new residential developments, including new residential developments, including through new residential developments, including through the new residential developments, including through the $1 new residential developments, including through the $1 billion including through the $1 billion housing including through the $1 billion housing infrastructure including through the $1 billion housing infrastructure fund, including through the $1 billion housing infrastructure fund, where housing infrastructure fund, where assessments housing infrastructure fund, where assessments are housing infrastructure fund, where assessments are currently housing infrastructure fund, where assessments are currently being housing infrastructure fund, where assessments are currently being made assessments are currently being made in assessments are currently being made in terms assessments are currently being made in terms of assessments are currently being made in terms of projects assessments are currently being made in terms of projects that assessments are currently being made in terms of projects that would in terms of projects that would qualify in terms of projects that would qualify for in terms of projects that would qualify for support. in terms of projects that would qualify for support. Additional qualify for support. Additional Government qualify for support. Additional Government measures qualify for support. Additional Government measures to qualify for support. Additional Government measures to speed qualify for support. Additional Government measures to speed up Government measures to speed up medium-term Government measures to speed up medium-term housing Government measures to speed up medium-term housing supply Government measures to speed up medium-term housing supply include medium-term housing supply include fast-tracking medium-term housing supply include fast-tracking the medium-term housing supply include fast-tracking the Auckland medium-term housing supply include fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary Plan, fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary Plan, the fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary Plan, the national fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary Plan, the national policy fast-tracking the Auckland Unitary Plan, the national policy statement Plan, the national policy statement on Plan, the national policy statement on urban Plan, the national policy statement on urban capacity Plan, the national policy statement on urban capacity and Plan, the national policy statement on urban capacity and the Plan, the national policy statement on urban capacity and the proposed on urban capacity and the proposed urban on urban capacity and the proposed urban development on urban capacity and the proposed urban development authority's urban development authority's legislation. urban development authority's legislation. That urban development authority's legislation. That will urban development authority's legislation. That will ensure urban development authority's legislation. That will ensure that legislation. That will ensure that the legislation. That will ensure that the current legislation. That will ensure that the current record legislation. That will ensure that the current record construction legislation. That will ensure that the current record construction boom the current record construction boom would the current record construction boom would continue. the current record construction boom would continue. What the current record construction boom would continue. What effect the current record construction boom would continue. What effect is would continue. What effect is access would continue. What effect is access to would continue. What effect is access to credit would continue. What effect is access to credit having would continue. 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A very fair question - banks and other fair question - banks and other lenders fair question - banks and other lenders are fair question - banks and other lenders are experiencing fair question - banks and other lenders are experiencing strong lenders are experiencing strong demand lenders are experiencing strong demand for lenders are experiencing strong demand for property lenders are experiencing strong demand for property development demand for property development financing demand for property development financing currently. demand for property development financing currently. Banks demand for property development financing currently. Banks continue financing currently. Banks continue to financing currently. Banks continue to manage financing currently. Banks continue to manage their financing currently. Banks continue to manage their exposure financing currently. Banks continue to manage their exposure across financing currently. Banks continue to manage their exposure across the to manage their exposure across the sector. to manage their exposure across the sector. The to manage their exposure across the sector. The Reserve to manage their exposure across the sector. The Reserve Bank to manage their exposure across the sector. The Reserve Bank is sector. The Reserve Bank is expecting sector. The Reserve Bank is expecting current sector. The Reserve Bank is expecting current levels sector. The Reserve Bank is expecting current levels of sector. The Reserve Bank is expecting current levels of bank expecting current levels of bank funding expecting current levels of bank funding will expecting current levels of bank funding will be expecting current levels of bank funding will be sufficient expecting current levels of bank funding will be sufficient to funding will be sufficient to maintain funding will be sufficient to maintain construction funding will be sufficient to maintain construction activity funding will be sufficient to maintain construction activity at maintain construction activity at the maintain construction activity at the present maintain construction activity at the present rate maintain construction activity at the present rate for maintain construction activity at the present rate for some maintain construction activity at the present rate for some time. maintain construction activity at the present rate for some time. That the present rate for some time. That level the present rate for some time. That level of the present rate for some time. That level of construction the present rate for some time. That level of construction is, the present rate for some time. That level of construction is, of the present rate for some time. 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In operating across our main centres in construction sites. In Auckland construction sites. In Auckland alone construction sites. In Auckland alone there construction sites. In Auckland alone there are construction sites. In Auckland alone there are 72 construction sites. In Auckland alone there are 72 working construction sites. In Auckland alone there are 72 working on alone there are 72 working on residential alone there are 72 working on residential and alone there are 72 working on residential and commercial alone there are 72 working on residential and commercial projects, residential and commercial projects, and residential and commercial projects, and I residential and commercial projects, and I think, residential and commercial projects, and I think, Mr residential and commercial projects, and I think, Mr Twyford, residential and commercial projects, and I think, Mr Twyford, you residential and commercial projects, and I think, Mr Twyford, you will and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find the and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find the houses and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find the houses are and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find the houses are under and I think, Mr Twyford, you will find the houses are under the find the houses are under the cranes. find the houses are under the cranes. We find the houses are under the cranes. We come find the houses are under the cranes. We come to find the houses are under the cranes. We come to question find the houses are under the cranes. We come to question No. find the houses are under the cranes. We come to question No. 2. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does he My question is to the Prime Minister: Does he have My question is to the Prime Minister: Does he have confidence Minister: Does he have confidence in Minister: Does he have confidence in his Minister: Does he have confidence in his Minister Minister: Does he have confidence in his Minister of in his Minister of Police; in his Minister of Police; if in his Minister of Police; if so, in his Minister of Police; if so, why? 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Did he not accept that proposal and fund it? Did he he not accept that proposal and fund it? Did he not he not accept that proposal and fund it? Did he not have he not accept that proposal and fund it? Did he not have confidence he not accept that proposal and fund it? Did he not have confidence that it? Did he not have confidence that she it? Did he not have confidence that she could it? Did he not have confidence that she could deliver it? Did he not have confidence that she could deliver it? it? 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Why is used effectively for safer communities. Why did is used effectively for safer communities. Why did he, is used effectively for safer communities. Why did he, the is used effectively for safer communities. Why did he, the PM, communities. Why did he, the PM, allow communities. Why did he, the PM, allow the communities. Why did he, the PM, allow the Police communities. Why did he, the PM, allow the Police Minister communities. Why did he, the PM, allow the Police Minister to communities. Why did he, the PM, allow the Police Minister to dismiss allow the Police Minister to dismiss the allow the Police Minister to dismiss the needs allow the Police Minister to dismiss the needs of allow the Police Minister to dismiss the needs of 271 allow the Police Minister to dismiss the needs of 271 communities allow the Police Minister to dismiss the needs of 271 communities and the needs of 271 communities and towns the needs of 271 communities and towns by the needs of 271 communities and towns by ignoring the needs of 271 communities and towns by ignoring their the needs of 271 communities and towns by ignoring their requests the needs of 271 communities and towns by ignoring their requests for towns by ignoring their requests for 24/7 towns by ignoring their requests for 24/7 police towns by ignoring their requests for 24/7 police coverage towns by ignoring their requests for 24/7 police coverage from towns by ignoring their requests for 24/7 police coverage from their 24/7 police coverage from their police 24/7 police coverage from their police station 24/7 police coverage from their police station as 24/7 police coverage from their police station as soon 24/7 police coverage from their police station as soon as 24/7 police coverage from their police station as soon as -- police station as soon as -- stations? police station as soon as -- stations? 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Well, the package significantly extends the 24/7 significantly extends the 24/7 coverage significantly extends the 24/7 coverage by significantly extends the 24/7 coverage by the significantly extends the 24/7 coverage by the police, significantly extends the 24/7 coverage by the police, as significantly extends the 24/7 coverage by the police, as announced coverage by the police, as announced this coverage by the police, as announced this morning, coverage by the police, as announced this morning, and coverage by the police, as announced this morning, and I coverage by the police, as announced this morning, and I think coverage by the police, as announced this morning, and I think a coverage by the police, as announced this morning, and I think a very this morning, and I think a very significant this morning, and I think a very significant proportion this morning, and I think a very significant proportion of this morning, and I think a very significant proportion of the significant proportion of the population significant proportion of the population will significant proportion of the population will now significant proportion of the population will now live significant proportion of the population will now live within significant proportion of the population will now live within 25km significant proportion of the this significant proportion of the of 24-hour police significant proportion of the of 24-hour police coverage. significant proportion of the of 24-hour police coverage. With of 24-hour police coverage. With alarming of 24-hour police coverage. With alarming levels of 24-hour police coverage. With alarming levels of of 24-hour police coverage. With alarming levels of criminal of 24-hour police coverage. With alarming levels of criminal activity alarming levels of criminal activity now alarming levels of criminal activity now in alarming levels of criminal activity now in Northland, alarming levels of criminal activity now in Northland, a alarming levels of criminal activity now in Northland, a drug alarming levels of criminal activity now in Northland, a drug pandemic, now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade youths now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade youths in now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade youths in this now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade youths in this country, now in Northland, a drug pandemic, renegade youths in this country, why renegade youths in this country, why did renegade youths in this country, why did you renegade youths in this country, why did you not renegade youths in this country, why did you not have renegade youths in this country, why did you not have the renegade youths in this country, why did you not have the confidence renegade youths in this country, why did you not have the confidence in did you not have the confidence in the did you not have the confidence in the Minister did you not have the confidence in the Minister of did you not have the confidence in the Minister of Police did you not have the confidence in the Minister of Police to did you not have the confidence in the Minister of Police to approve the Minister of Police to approve the the Minister of Police to approve the 1,430 the Minister of Police to approve the 1,430 extra the Minister of Police to approve the 1,430 extra staff the Minister of Police to approve the 1,430 extra staff that the Minister of Police to approve the 1,430 extra staff that the the 1,430 extra staff that the police the 1,430 extra staff that the police asked the 1,430 extra staff that the police asked for? the 1,430 extra staff that the police asked for? 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And embedded social issues - social problems in Northland. And in embedded social issues - social problems in Northland. And in fact, problems in Northland. And in fact, there's problems in Northland. And in fact, there's any problems in Northland. And in fact, there's any number problems in Northland. And in fact, there's any number of problems in Northland. And in fact, there's any number of different there's any number of different initiatives there's any number of different initiatives being there's any number of different initiatives being taken there's any number of different initiatives being taken by there's any number of different initiatives being taken by the initiatives being taken by the community initiatives being taken by the community up initiatives being taken by the community up there, initiatives being taken by the community up there, and initiatives being taken by the community up there, and I initiatives being taken by the community up there, and I would initiatives being taken by the community up there, and I would hope community up there, and I would hope the community up there, and I would hope the member community up there, and I would hope the member would community up there, and I would hope the member would support community up there, and I would hope the member would support those the member would support those initiatives, the member would support those initiatives, as the member would support those initiatives, as well the member would support those initiatives, as well as the member would support those initiatives, as well as the the member would support those initiatives, as well as the increase initiatives, as well as the increase in initiatives, as well as the increase in police, initiatives, as well as the increase in police, rather initiatives, as well as the increase in police, rather than initiatives, as well as the increase in police, rather than continue initiatives, as well as the increase in police, rather than continue to in police, rather than continue to regard in police, rather than continue to regard them in police, rather than continue to regard them as in police, rather than continue to regard them as all in police, rather than continue to regard them as all hopeless. regard them as all hopeless. 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And I also said, "I think this is pretty well understood think this is pretty well understood by think this is pretty well understood by the think this is pretty well understood by the council think this is pretty well understood by the council and think this is pretty well understood by the council and that think this is pretty well understood by the council and that they think this is pretty well understood by the council and that they are by the council and that they are working by the council and that they are working towards by the council and that they are working towards enabling by the council and that they are working towards enabling more working towards enabling more housing, working towards enabling more housing, but working towards enabling more housing, but I working towards enabling more housing, but I hope working towards enabling more housing, but I hope the working towards enabling more housing, but I hope the developments housing, but I hope the developments here housing, but I hope the developments here aren't housing, but I hope the developments here aren't going housing, but I hope the developments here aren't going to housing, but I hope the developments here aren't going to be housing, but I hope the developments here aren't going to be an housing, but I hope the developments here aren't going to be an opposed here aren't going to be an opposed by here aren't going to be an opposed by the here aren't going to be an opposed by the Labour here aren't going to be an opposed by the Labour Party, here aren't going to be an opposed by the Labour Party, as here aren't going to be an opposed by the Labour Party, as they here aren't going to be an opposed by the Labour Party, as they have by the Labour Party, as they have been by the Labour Party, as they have been in by the Labour Party, as they have been in Auckland". by the Labour Party, as they have been in Auckland". 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But we're being held up in Auckland by the Labour held up in Auckland by the Labour Party held up in Auckland by the Labour Party opposing held up in Auckland by the Labour Party opposing the held up in Auckland by the Labour Party opposing the Point held up in Auckland by the Labour Party opposing the Point England Party opposing the Point England development, Party opposing the Point England development, which Party opposing the Point England development, which would Party opposing the Point England development, which would enable development, which would enable hundreds development, which would enable hundreds more development, which would enable hundreds more social development, which would enable hundreds more social houses development, which would enable hundreds more social houses to development, which would enable hundreds more social houses to be hundreds more social houses to be blts. hundreds more social houses to be blts. -- hundreds more social houses to be blts. -- built. hundreds more social houses to be blts. -- built. 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Fortunately, the Wellington City Fortunately, the Wellington City Council Fortunately, the Wellington City Council recognises Fortunately, the Wellington City Council recognises more Fortunately, the Wellington City Council recognises more houses Fortunately, the Wellington City Council recognises more houses are Council recognises more houses are needed Council recognises more houses are needed because Council recognises more houses are needed because Wellington Council recognises more houses are needed because Wellington is Council recognises more houses are needed because Wellington is now needed because Wellington is now growing needed because Wellington is now growing for needed because Wellington is now growing for the needed because Wellington is now growing for the first needed because Wellington is now growing for the first time needed because Wellington is now growing for the first time in needed because Wellington is now growing for the first time in a needed because Wellington is now growing for the first time in a long growing for the first time in a long time, growing for the first time in a long time, and growing for the first time in a long time, and I growing for the first time in a long time, and I hope growing for the first time in a long time, and I hope Labour growing for the first time in a long time, and I hope Labour won't growing for the first time in a long time, and I hope Labour won't oppose time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the developments time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the developments the time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the developments the way time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the developments the way it time, and I hope Labour won't oppose the developments the way it is the developments the way it is opposing the developments the way it is opposing new the developments the way it is opposing new developments the developments the way it is opposing new developments in opposing new developments in Auckland. opposing new developments in Auckland. Has opposing new developments in Auckland. Has he opposing new developments in Auckland. Has he been opposing new developments in Auckland. Has he been to opposing new developments in Auckland. Has he been to the opposing new developments in Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley and Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley and looked Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley and looked at Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley and looked at all Auckland. Has he been to the Hutt Valley and looked at all the Auckland. 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I afford an affordable place to live. I know afford an affordable place to live. I know the afford an affordable place to live. I know the Hutt afford an affordable place to live. I know the Hutt Valley afford an affordable place to live. I know the Hutt Valley reasonably I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've seen I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've seen some I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've seen some of I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've seen some of the I know the Hutt Valley reasonably well. I've seen some of the empty well. I've seen some of the empty sections well. I've seen some of the empty sections to well. I've seen some of the empty sections to which well. I've seen some of the empty sections to which the well. I've seen some of the empty sections to which the member well. 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But as I've said to the member, I'm quite sure said to the member, I'm quite sure that, said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as soon said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as soon as said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as soon as we said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as soon as we start said to the member, I'm quite sure that, as soon as we start developing that, as soon as we start developing in that, as soon as we start developing in the that, as soon as we start developing in the Hutt that, as soon as we start developing in the Hutt Valley, that, as soon as we start developing in the Hutt Valley, Labour that, as soon as we start developing in the Hutt Valley, Labour will in the Hutt Valley, Labour will start in the Hutt Valley, Labour will start opposing in the Hutt Valley, Labour will start opposing it. in the Hutt Valley, Labour will start opposing it. Order! in the Hutt Valley, Labour will start opposing it. Order! 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for the My question is to the Minister for the Environment: My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does he My question is to the Minister for the Environment: Does he agree for the Environment: Does he agree with for the Environment: Does he agree with the for the Environment: Does he agree with the Prime for the Environment: Does he agree with the Prime Minister's for the Environment: Does he agree with the Prime Minister's Chief with the Prime Minister's Chief Science with the Prime Minister's Chief Science Advisor with the Prime Minister's Chief Science Advisor that with the Prime Minister's Chief Science Advisor that some Science Advisor that some of Science Advisor that some of the Science Advisor that some of the country's Science Advisor that some of the country's waterways Science Advisor that some of the country's waterways have Science Advisor that some of the country's waterways have gone of the country's waterways have gone beyond of the country's waterways have gone beyond a of the country's waterways have gone beyond a tipping of the country's waterways have gone beyond a tipping point? Yes, Yes, there Yes, there are Yes, there are water Yes, there are water bodies Yes, there are water bodies like Yes, there are water bodies like Lake Yes, there are water bodies like Lake Forsyth Yes, there are water bodies like Lake Forsyth in Yes, there are water bodies like Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, Yes, there are water bodies like Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have reached Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have reached a Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have reached a tipping Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have reached a tipping point Lake Forsyth in Canterbury, that have reached a tipping point that have reached a tipping point that makes have reached a tipping point that makes their have reached a tipping point that makes their registration have reached a tipping point that makes their registration very makes their registration very challenging, makes their registration very challenging, but makes their registration very challenging, but none makes their registration very challenging, but none have makes their registration very challenging, but none have crossed challenging, but none have crossed that challenging, but none have crossed that point challenging, but none have crossed that point during challenging, but none have crossed that point during this challenging, but none have crossed that point during this Government's that point during this Government's term. that point during this Government's term. I that point during this Government's term. I was that point during this Government's term. I was advised that point during this Government's term. I was advised in that point during this Government's term. I was advised in 2008 that point during this Government's term. I was advised in 2008 that term. I was advised in 2008 that three term. I was advised in 2008 that three significant term. I was advised in 2008 that three significant water term. I was advised in 2008 that three significant water bodies term. I was advised in 2008 that three significant water bodies had term. I was advised in 2008 that three significant water bodies had a three significant water bodies had a risk three significant water bodies had a risk of three significant water bodies had a risk of crossing three significant water bodies had a risk of crossing tipping three significant water bodies had a risk of crossing tipping points three significant water bodies had a risk of crossing tipping points in risk of crossing tipping points in the risk of crossing tipping points in the next risk of crossing tipping points in the next decade risk of crossing tipping points in the next decade - risk of crossing tipping points in the next decade - Lake risk of crossing tipping points in the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti risk of crossing tipping points in the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of Plenty, the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of Plenty, the the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the next decade - Lake Rotuiuti in the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south of the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south of Canterbury the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south of Canterbury and the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south of Canterbury and the the Bay of Plenty, the lagoon in the south of Canterbury and the Waituna south of Canterbury and the Waituna lagoon south of Canterbury and the Waituna lagoon in south of Canterbury and the Waituna lagoon in Southland. south of Canterbury and the Waituna lagoon in Southland. This lagoon in Southland. This Government's lagoon in Southland. This Government's successful lagoon in Southland. This Government's successful intervention Government's successful intervention in Government's successful intervention in all Government's successful intervention in all three Government's successful intervention in all three of Government's successful intervention in all three of those Government's successful intervention in all three of those has Government's successful intervention in all three of those has resulted in all three of those has resulted in in all three of those has resulted in that in all three of those has resulted in that risk in all three of those has resulted in that risk being in all three of those has resulted in that risk being averted in all three of those has resulted in that risk being averted and in that risk being averted and marked in that risk being averted and marked improvements in that risk being averted and marked improvements in in that risk being averted and marked improvements in the in that risk being averted and marked improvements in the water marked improvements in the water quality marked improvements in the water quality being marked improvements in the water quality being achieved. marked improvements in the water quality being achieved. Is marked improvements in the water quality being achieved. Is the quality being achieved. Is the current quality being achieved. Is the current intensive quality being achieved. Is the current intensive farming quality being achieved. Is the current intensive farming model current intensive farming model exacerbating current intensive farming model exacerbating poor current intensive farming model exacerbating poor water current intensive farming model exacerbating poor water quality? current intensive farming model exacerbating poor water quality? It exacerbating poor water quality? It is exacerbating poor water quality? It is not exacerbating poor water quality? It is not as exacerbating poor water quality? It is not as simplistic exacerbating poor water quality? It is not as simplistic as exacerbating poor water quality? It is not as simplistic as Professor is not as simplistic as Professor Gluxman's is not as simplistic as Professor Gluxman's report is not as simplistic as Professor Gluxman's report concludes, is not as simplistic as Professor Gluxman's report concludes, that Gluxman's report concludes, that simply Gluxman's report concludes, that simply intensification Gluxman's report concludes, that simply intensification automatically simply intensification automatically results simply intensification automatically results in simply intensification automatically results in water simply intensification automatically results in water quality results in water quality deterioration. results in water quality deterioration. For results in water quality deterioration. For instance, deterioration. For instance, well-designed deterioration. For instance, well-designed water deterioration. For instance, well-designed water storage deterioration. For instance, well-designed water storage schemes well-designed water storage schemes like well-designed water storage schemes like those well-designed water storage schemes like those that well-designed water storage schemes like those that have well-designed water storage schemes like those that have occurred well-designed water storage schemes like those that have occurred with like those that have occurred with the like those that have occurred with the Central like those that have occurred with the Central Plains, like those that have occurred with the Central Plains, can like those that have occurred with the Central Plains, can actually the Central Plains, can actually result the Central Plains, can actually result in the Central Plains, can actually result in water the Central Plains, can actually result in water quality the Central Plains, can actually result in water quality improvements result in water quality improvements and result in water quality improvements and increased result in water quality improvements and increased agricultural and increased agricultural production. and increased agricultural production. Does and increased agricultural production. Does he and increased agricultural production. Does he think and increased agricultural production. Does he think it's production. Does he think it's reasonable production. Does he think it's reasonable to production. Does he think it's reasonable to continue production. Does he think it's reasonable to continue to production. Does he think it's reasonable to continue to allow reasonable to continue to allow agricultural reasonable to continue to allow agricultural intensification reasonable to continue to allow agricultural intensification when agricultural intensification when Sir agricultural intensification when Sir Peter's agricultural intensification when Sir Peter's report agricultural intensification when Sir Peter's report shows agricultural intensification when Sir Peter's report shows that agricultural intensification when Sir Peter's report shows that the Sir Peter's report shows that the effects Sir Peter's report shows that the effects of Sir Peter's report shows that the effects of that Sir Peter's report shows that the effects of that farming Sir Peter's report shows that the effects of that farming now Sir Peter's report shows that the effects of that farming now will effects of that farming now will still effects of that farming now will still be effects of that farming now will still be felt effects of that farming now will still be felt in effects of that farming now will still be felt in 100 effects of that farming now will still be felt in 100 years effects of that farming now will still be felt in 100 years or effects of that farming now will still be felt in 100 years or more, still be felt in 100 years or more, meaning still be felt in 100 years or more, meaning future still be felt in 100 years or more, meaning future generations still be felt in 100 years or more, meaning future generations are still be felt in 100 years or more, meaning future generations are left meaning future generations are left to meaning future generations are left to foot meaning future generations are left to foot the meaning future generations are left to foot the bill meaning future generations are left to foot the bill and meaning future generations are left to foot the bill and fix meaning future generations are left to foot the bill and fix the meaning future generations are left to foot the bill and fix the problem to foot the bill and fix the problem of to foot the bill and fix the problem of dirty to foot the bill and fix the problem of dirty water? to foot the bill and fix the problem of dirty water? The to foot the bill and fix the problem of dirty water? The member to foot the bill and fix the problem of dirty water? The member is of dirty water? The member is firstly of dirty water? The member is firstly incorrect of dirty water? The member is firstly incorrect in of dirty water? The member is firstly incorrect in simply firstly incorrect in simply concentrating firstly incorrect in simply concentrating on firstly incorrect in simply concentrating on agriculture. firstly incorrect in simply concentrating on agriculture. The concentrating on agriculture. The member concentrating on agriculture. The member shows concentrating on agriculture. The member shows a concentrating on agriculture. The member shows a blind concentrating on agriculture. The member shows a blind spot concentrating on agriculture. The member shows a blind spot in concentrating on agriculture. The member shows a blind spot in that member shows a blind spot in that the member shows a blind spot in that the report member shows a blind spot in that the report shows member shows a blind spot in that the report shows our member shows a blind spot in that the report shows our most member shows a blind spot in that the report shows our most polluted the report shows our most polluted areas the report shows our most polluted areas are the report shows our most polluted areas are actually the report shows our most polluted areas are actually in the report shows our most polluted areas are actually in urban areas are actually in urban environments areas are actually in urban environments and areas are actually in urban environments and that's areas are actually in urban environments and that's where areas are actually in urban environments and that's where this environments and that's where this Government's environments and that's where this Government's approach environments and that's where this Government's approach is environments and that's where this Government's approach is that environments and that's where this Government's approach is that both Government's approach is that both urban Government's approach is that both urban and Government's approach is that both urban and rural Government's approach is that both urban and rural New Government's approach is that both urban and rural New Zealanders Government's approach is that both urban and rural New Zealanders need urban and rural New Zealanders need to urban and rural New Zealanders need to lift urban and rural New Zealanders need to lift their urban and rural New Zealanders need to lift their game urban and rural New Zealanders need to lift their game around urban and rural New Zealanders need to lift their game around water to lift their game around water quality. quality. As quality. As Minister quality. As Minister for quality. As Minister for the quality. As Minister for the Environment quality. As Minister for the Environment will quality. As Minister for the Environment will he quality. As Minister for the Environment will he advocate quality. As Minister for the Environment will he advocate on Environment will he advocate on behalf Environment will he advocate on behalf of Environment will he advocate on behalf of Aotearoa's Environment will he advocate on behalf of Aotearoa's waterways Environment will he advocate on behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and ensuring behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and ensuring their behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and ensuring their protection behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and ensuring their protection by behalf of Aotearoa's waterways and ensuring their protection by calling ensuring their protection by calling for ensuring their protection by calling for the ensuring their protection by calling for the Government ensuring their protection by calling for the Government to ensuring their protection by calling for the Government to move ensuring their protection by calling for the Government to move away ensuring their protection by calling for the Government to move away from for the Government to move away from their for the Government to move away from their intensive for the Government to move away from their intensive farming for the Government to move away from their intensive farming model? for the Government to move away from their intensive farming model? This their intensive farming model? This Government their intensive farming model? This Government has their intensive farming model? This Government has introduced their intensive farming model? This Government has introduced the their intensive farming model? This Government has introduced the first Government has introduced the first national Government has introduced the first national policy Government has introduced the first national policy statement Government has introduced the first national policy statement and Government has introduced the first national policy statement and limits national policy statement and limits on national policy statement and limits on nutrients, national policy statement and limits on nutrients, on national policy statement and limits on nutrients, on ammonia, national policy statement and limits on nutrients, on ammonia, and national policy statement and limits on nutrients, on ammonia, and has on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over 18 on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over 18 catchments on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over 18 catchments - on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over 18 catchments - when on nutrients, on ammonia, and has seen over 18 catchments - when there seen over 18 catchments - when there were seen over 18 catchments - when there were none seen over 18 catchments - when there were none when seen over 18 catchments - when there were none when we seen over 18 catchments - when there were none when we became seen over 18 catchments - when there were none when we became the were none when we became the Government were none when we became the Government - were none when we became the Government - having were none when we became the Government - having limits were none when we became the Government - having limits on Government - having limits on intensification. Government - having limits on intensification. But Government - having limits on intensification. But where Government - having limits on intensification. But where we Government - having limits on intensification. But where we differ intensification. But where we differ from intensification. But where we differ from the intensification. But where we differ from the Green intensification. But where we differ from the Green Party intensification. But where we differ from the Green Party is intensification. But where we differ from the Green Party is that intensification. But where we differ from the Green Party is that a from the Green Party is that a complete from the Green Party is that a complete freeze from the Green Party is that a complete freeze on from the Green Party is that a complete freeze on the from the Green Party is that a complete freeze on the growth from the Green Party is that a complete freeze on the growth of complete freeze on the growth of agriculture complete freeze on the growth of agriculture is complete freeze on the growth of agriculture is not complete freeze on the growth of agriculture is not a complete freeze on the growth of agriculture is not a sensible agriculture is not a sensible approach agriculture is not a sensible approach to agriculture is not a sensible approach to this agriculture is not a sensible approach to this issue, agriculture is not a sensible approach to this issue, and agriculture is not a sensible approach to this issue, and there approach to this issue, and there are approach to this issue, and there are many approach to this issue, and there are many water approach to this issue, and there are many water development approach to this issue, and there are many water development schemes are many water development schemes that are many water development schemes that can are many water development schemes that can deliver are many water development schemes that can deliver both are many water development schemes that can deliver both water are many water development schemes that can deliver both water quality that can deliver both water quality improvements that can deliver both water quality improvements and that can deliver both water quality improvements and jobs that can deliver both water quality improvements and jobs for that can deliver both water quality improvements and jobs for rural improvements and jobs for rural communities. improvements and jobs for rural communities. Will improvements and jobs for rural communities. Will he improvements and jobs for rural communities. Will he act improvements and jobs for rural communities. Will he act urgently improvements and jobs for rural communities. Will he act urgently, communities. Will he act urgently, so communities. Will he act urgently, so that communities. Will he act urgently, so that other communities. Will he act urgently, so that other rivers communities. Will he act urgently, so that other rivers aren't communities. Will he act urgently, so that other rivers aren't pushed so that other rivers aren't pushed beyond so that other rivers aren't pushed beyond their so that other rivers aren't pushed beyond their tipping so that other rivers aren't pushed beyond their tipping point so that other rivers aren't pushed beyond their tipping point by beyond their tipping point by putting beyond their tipping point by putting a beyond their tipping point by putting a moratorium beyond their tipping point by putting a moratorium on beyond their tipping point by putting a moratorium on new beyond their tipping point by putting a moratorium on new dairy putting a moratorium on new dairy conversions, putting a moratorium on new dairy conversions, advocating putting a moratorium on new dairy conversions, advocating for putting a moratorium on new dairy conversions, advocating for higher conversions, advocating for higher value conversions, advocating for higher value - conversions, advocating for higher value - not conversions, advocating for higher value - not higher conversions, advocating for higher value - not higher volume conversions, advocating for higher value - not higher volume - conversions, advocating for higher value - not higher volume - in value - not higher volume - in agriculture, value - not higher volume - in agriculture, and value - not higher volume - in agriculture, and putting value - not higher volume - in agriculture, and putting rivers agriculture, and putting rivers first agriculture, and putting rivers first, agriculture, and putting rivers first, not agriculture, and putting rivers first, not last? agriculture, and putting rivers first, not last? 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The fact that this Government has increased the level Government has increased the level of Government has increased the level of funding Government has increased the level of funding for Government has increased the level of funding for freshwater Government has increased the level of funding for freshwater clean-ups of funding for freshwater clean-ups by of funding for freshwater clean-ups by six-fold of funding for freshwater clean-ups by six-fold and of funding for freshwater clean-ups by six-fold and committed of funding for freshwater clean-ups by six-fold and committed $450 by six-fold and committed $450 million, by six-fold and committed $450 million, the by six-fold and committed $450 million, the fact by six-fold and committed $450 million, the fact that by six-fold and committed $450 million, the fact that you by six-fold and committed $450 million, the fact that you see by six-fold and committed $450 million, the fact that you see lakes million, the fact that you see lakes like million, the fact that you see lakes like Lake million, the fact that you see lakes like Lake Rotuiti, million, the fact that you see lakes like Lake Rotuiti, that million, the fact that you see lakes like Lake Rotuiti, that deteriorated like Lake Rotuiti, that deteriorated significantly like Lake Rotuiti, that deteriorated significantly under like Lake Rotuiti, that deteriorated significantly under the like Lake Rotuiti, that deteriorated significantly under the last significantly under the last Government significantly under the last Government but significantly under the last Government but have significantly under the last Government but have improved Government but have improved enormously Government but have improved enormously under Government but have improved enormously under this Government but have improved enormously under this Government, Government but have improved enormously under this Government, if enormously under this Government, if we enormously under this Government, if we look enormously under this Government, if we look in enormously under this Government, if we look in terms enormously under this Government, if we look in terms of enormously under this Government, if we look in terms of sensible enormously under this Government, if we look in terms of sensible water we look in terms of sensible water storage we look in terms of sensible water storage programmes, we look in terms of sensible water storage programmes, whether we look in terms of sensible water storage programmes, whether they we look in terms of sensible water storage programmes, whether they be storage programmes, whether they be Central storage programmes, whether they be Central Plains, storage programmes, whether they be Central Plains, whether storage programmes, whether they be Central Plains, whether they storage programmes, whether they be Central Plains, whether they be storage programmes, whether they be Central Plains, whether they be the Central Plains, whether they be the Lee Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme in Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme in my Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme in my own Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme in my own area, Central Plains, whether they be the Lee scheme in my own area, shows Lee scheme in my own area, shows that Lee scheme in my own area, shows that this Lee scheme in my own area, shows that this Government Lee scheme in my own area, shows that this Government is Lee scheme in my own area, shows that this Government is capable Lee scheme in my own area, shows that this Government is capable of that this Government is capable of delivering that this Government is capable of delivering improved that this Government is capable of delivering improved water that this Government is capable of delivering improved water quality that this Government is capable of delivering improved water quality as delivering improved water quality as well delivering improved water quality as well as delivering improved water quality as well as increased delivering improved water quality as well as increased Primary delivering improved water quality as well as increased Primary Production well as increased Primary Production exports. well as increased Primary Production exports. 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Question No. 7. Good on you, Gerry. Order. Question No. 7. Fletcher Good on you, Gerry. Order. Question No. 7. Fletcher Tabuteau. 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The select committee has considered petitions on the matter. considered petitions on the matter. The considered petitions on the matter. The Lines considered petitions on the matter. The Lines Company considered petitions on the matter. The Lines Company makes considered petitions on the matter. The Lines Company makes its considered petitions on the matter. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Energy My question is to the Minister of Energy and My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Does of Energy and Resources: Does she of Energy and Resources: Does she agree of Energy and Resources: Does she agree with of Energy and Resources: Does she agree with Dr of Energy and Resources: Does she agree with Dr Russel of Energy and Resources: Does she agree with Dr Russel Norman, she agree with Dr Russel Norman, who she agree with Dr Russel Norman, who said she agree with Dr Russel Norman, who said that she agree with Dr Russel Norman, who said that section she agree with Dr Russel Norman, who said that section 101B(1)(c) who said that section 101B(1)(c) of who said that section 101B(1)(c) of the who said that section 101B(1)(c) of the Crown who said that section 101B(1)(c) of the Crown Minerals who said that section 101B(1)(c) of the Crown Minerals Act who said that section 101B(1)(c) of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, known of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, known as of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, known as the of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, known as the Anadarko of the Crown Minerals Act 1991, known as the Anadarko Amendment, known as the Anadarko Amendment, was known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put in known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put in place known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put in place by known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put in place by the known as the Anadarko Amendment, was "put in place by the Government was "put in place by the Government to was "put in place by the Government to protect was "put in place by the Government to protect the was "put in place by the Government to protect the interest was "put in place by the Government to protect the interest of was "put in place by the Government to protect the interest of big was "put in place by the Government to protect the interest of big oil to protect the interest of big oil and to protect the interest of big oil and to to protect the interest of big oil and to stifle to protect the interest of big oil and to stifle dissent"? The The Hon The Hon Judith The Hon Judith Collins. The Hon Judith Collins. Mr The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, surprisingly The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, surprisingly no. The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, surprisingly no. It's The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, surprisingly no. It's about The Hon Judith Collins. Mr Speaker, surprisingly no. It's about keeping surprisingly no. It's about keeping people surprisingly no. It's about keeping people safe surprisingly no. It's about keeping people safe and surprisingly no. It's about keeping people safe and balancing surprisingly no. It's about keeping people safe and balancing the surprisingly no. 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