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Mr Speaker, I seek leave to bring a motion without leave to bring a motion without notice leave to bring a motion without notice regarding leave to bring a motion without notice regarding the leave to bring a motion without notice regarding the tragic leave to bring a motion without notice regarding the tragic attack notice regarding the tragic attack in notice regarding the tragic attack in Manchester notice regarding the tragic attack in Manchester today. notice regarding the tragic attack in Manchester today. Leave notice regarding the tragic attack in Manchester today. Leave is notice regarding the tragic attack in Manchester today. Leave is sought in Manchester today. Leave is sought for in Manchester today. Leave is sought notice in Manchester today. Leave is sought for that purpose. in Manchester today. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is in Manchester today. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there in Manchester today. Leave is sought for that purpose. Is there any for that purpose. Is there any objection? for that purpose. Is there any objection? There for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is for that purpose. Is there any objection? There is not. objection? There is not. I objection? There is not. I seek objection? There is not. I seek leave objection? There is not. I seek leave to objection? There is not. I seek leave to move objection? There is not. I seek leave to move a objection? There is not. I seek leave to move a motion objection? There is not. I seek leave to move a motion that I seek leave to move a motion that this I seek leave to move a motion that this House I seek leave to move a motion that this House send I seek leave to move a motion that this House send its I seek leave to move a motion that this House send its condolences I seek leave to move a motion that this House send its condolences to this House send its condolences to the this House send its condolences to the people this House send its condolences to the people of this House send its condolences to the people of Manchester this House send its condolences to the people of Manchester and this House send its condolences to the people of Manchester and the this House send its condolences to the people of Manchester and the UK the people of Manchester and the UK for the people of Manchester and the UK for the the people of Manchester and the UK for the horrible the people of Manchester and the UK for the horrible attack the people of Manchester and the UK for the horrible attack today for the horrible attack today leading for the horrible attack today leading to for the horrible attack today leading to thus for the horrible attack today leading to thus far for the horrible attack today leading to thus far known for the horrible attack today leading to thus far known 19 for the horrible attack today leading to thus far known 19 deaths leading to thus far known 19 deaths and leading to thus far known 19 deaths and 59 leading to thus far known 19 deaths and 59 injured. leading to thus far known 19 deaths and 59 injured. 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Mr Speaker, how important contradiction in terms. Order! Mr Speaker, how important are Mr Speaker, how important are international Mr Speaker, how important are international trade Mr Speaker, how important are international trade links Mr Speaker, how important are international trade links to Mr Speaker, how important are international trade links to the international trade links to the economy? economy? Mr economy? Mr Speaker, economy? Mr Speaker, as economy? Mr Speaker, as a economy? Mr Speaker, as a small, economy? 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Trade, Mr Speaker, is an economy. Trade, Mr Speaker, is an important economy. Trade, Mr Speaker, is an important part economy. Trade, Mr Speaker, is an important part of economy. Trade, Mr Speaker, is an important part of the economy. Trade, Mr Speaker, is an important part of the Government's important part of the Government's economic important part of the Government's important My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Did My question is to the Prime Minister: Did the My question is to the Prime Minister: Did the Minister My question is to the Prime Minister: Did the Minister for Minister: Did the Minister for Social Minister: Did the Minister for Social Housing Minister: Did the Minister for Social Housing consult Minister: Did the Minister for Social Housing consult with Minister: Did the Minister for Social Housing consult with him Social Housing consult with him before Social Housing consult with him before announcing Social Housing consult with him before announcing a Social Housing consult with him before announcing a housing Social Housing consult with him before announcing a housing plan before announcing a housing plan without before announcing a housing plan without being before announcing a housing plan without being able before announcing a housing plan without being able to before announcing a housing plan without being able to say before announcing a housing plan without being able to say how before announcing a housing plan without being able to say how many without being able to say how many of without being able to say how many of the without being able to say how many of the houses without being able to say how many of the houses will without being able to say how many of the houses will be without being able to say how many of the houses will be affordable? 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A new purpose built houses over ten years. A detailed new purpose built houses over ten years. A detailed plan new purpose built houses over ten years. A detailed plan that new purpose built houses over ten years. A detailed plan that will new purpose built houses over ten years. A detailed plan that will be years. A detailed plan that will be executed years. A detailed plan that will be executed unlike years. A detailed plan that will be executed unlike the years. A detailed plan that will be executed unlike the Labour years. A detailed plan that will be executed unlike the Labour Party executed unlike the Labour Party policy executed unlike the Labour Party policy of executed unlike the Labour Party policy of 100,000 executed unlike the Labour Party policy of 100,000 houses executed unlike the Labour Party policy of 100,000 houses for executed unlike the Labour Party policy of 100,000 houses for which policy of 100,000 houses for which they policy of 100,000 houses for which they have policy of 100,000 houses for which they have now policy of 100,000 houses for which they have now discovered policy of 100,000 houses for which they have now discovered they policy of 100,000 houses for which they have now discovered they have they have now discovered they have no they have now discovered they have executed no land. Order! Order! Mr Order! Mr Speaker, Order! Mr Speaker, can Order! Mr Speaker, can he Order! Mr Speaker, can he con Order! Mr Speaker, can he con firl Order! Mr Speaker, can he con firl that Order! Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population of Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population of Auckland Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population of Auckland is Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population of Auckland is growing Mr Speaker, can he con firl that the population of Auckland is growing at population of Auckland is growing at over population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 a population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 a year population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 a year now population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 a year now and population of Auckland is growing at over 40,000 a year now and he's over 40,000 a year now and he's promising over 40,000 a year now and he's promising just over 40,000 a year now and he's promising just 4 over 40,000 a year now and he's promising just 4 Hun over 40,000 a year now and he's promising just 4 Hun An over 40,000 a year now and he's promising just 4 Hun An affordable promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a year promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a year under promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a year under his promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a year under his plan, promising just 4 Hun An affordable houses a year under his plan, one houses a year under his plan, one new houses a year under his plan, one new affordable houses a year under his plan, one new affordable house houses a year under his plan, one new affordable house for houses a year under his plan, one new affordable house for every houses a year under his plan, one new affordable house for every 100 new affordable house for every 100 new new affordable house for every 100 houses new Aucklanders? Well, new Aucklanders? Well, Mr new Aucklanders? Well, Mr Speaker, new Aucklanders? Well, Mr Speaker, the new Aucklanders? Well, Mr Speaker, the key new Aucklanders? 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And today they will vote against development for three years. And today they will vote against the And today they will vote against the Point And today they will vote against the Point England And today they will vote against the Point England Enabling And today they will vote against the Point England Enabling Bill, And today they will vote against the Point England Enabling Bill, which Point England Enabling Bill, which is Point England Enabling Bill, which Point Point England Enabling Bill, which is a key Point England Enabling Bill, which is a key to Point England Enabling Bill, which is a key to the Point England Enabling Bill, which is a key to the Tamaki Point England Enabling Bill, which is a key to the Tamaki development is a key to the Tamaki development where is a key to the Tamaki development where up is a key to the Tamaki development where up to is a key to the Tamaki development where up to 8 is a key to the Tamaki development where up to 8 Hun is a key to the Tamaki development where up to 8 Hun An,000 is a key to the Tamaki development where up to 8 Hun An,000 houses is a key to the Tamaki development where up to 8 Hun An,000 houses will where up to 8 Hun An,000 houses will be where up to 8 Hun An,000 houses will be built. 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Mr policies. Mr Speaker, policies. Mr Speaker, much policies. Mr Speaker, much as policies. Mr Speaker, much as I policies. Mr Speaker, much as I respect policies. Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, I Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, I disagree Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, I disagree with Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, I disagree with him. Mr Speaker, much as I respect John Armstrong, I disagree with him. The Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member may Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member may not Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member may not be Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member may not be surprised Armstrong, I disagree with him. The member may not be surprised to Armstrong, I disagree with him. 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Order! Order! Point Order! Point of Order! Point of order. Point of order. I Point of order. I seek Point of order. I seek leave Point of order. I seek leave to Point of order. I seek leave to table Point of order. I seek leave to table the Point of order. I seek leave to table the front Point of order. 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Is redacted to protect their identity. Is there redacted to protect their identity. Is there an redacted to protect their identity. Is there an objection redacted to protect their identity. Is there an objection to redacted to protect their identity. Is there an objection to the Is there an objection to the tabling? Is there an objection to the redacted Is there an objection to the tabling? There is Is there an objection to the tabling? There is not. tabling? There is not. Why tabling? There is not. Why is tabling? There is not. Why is the tabling? There is not. Why is the PM tabling? There is not. Why is the PM defending tabling? There is not. 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Order! acquittal at the time in terms of departmental practice. Order! There departmental practice. Order! There is departmental practice. Order! There is no departmental practice. Order! There is no prime departmental practice. Order! There is no prime ministerial is no prime ministerial responsibility is no prime ministerial responsibility for is no prime ministerial responsibility for that is no prime ministerial responsibility for that committee. responsibility for that committee. Further responsibility for that committee. acquittal Further supplementary. If Further supplementary. If the Further supplementary. If the asset Further supplementary. If the asset was Further supplementary. If the asset was worth Further supplementary. If the asset was worth it, Further supplementary. 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Here we are less than four months from an election and on four months from an election and on all four months from an election and on all these four months from an election and on all these social four months from an election and on all these social issues four months from an election and on all these social issues the four months from an election and on all these social issues the Labour all these social issues the Labour Party all these social issues the Labour Party has all these social issues the Labour Party has nothing all these social issues the Labour Party has nothing new all these social issues the Labour Party has nothing new to all these social issues the Labour Party has nothing new to say. all these social issues the Labour Party has nothing new to say. So Party has nothing new to say. So nine Party has nothing new to say. So nine years Party has nothing new to say. So nine years in, Party has nothing new to say. So nine years in, absolutely Party has nothing new to say. 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I seek leave of the House to table Labour's detailed policy Robertson. I seek leave of the House to table Labour's detailed policy in to table Labour's detailed policy in the to table Labour's detailed policy in the areas to table Labour's detailed policy in the areas of to table Labour's detailed policy in the areas of housing, to table Labour's detailed policy in the areas of housing, health, the areas of housing, health, education, the areas of housing, health, education, police, the areas of housing, health, education, police, jobs... education, police, jobs... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> He <INTERRUPTION> He wanted <INTERRUPTION> He wanted them, <INTERRUPTION> He wanted them, Mr <INTERRUPTION> He wanted them, Mr Speaker. <INTERRUPTION> He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! That He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! That information He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! That information is He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! That information is available He wanted them, Mr Speaker. Order! That information is available to That information is available to members That information is available to members if That information is available to members if they That information is available to members if they want That information is available to members if they want to That information is available to members if they want to see That information is available to members if they want to see that. members if they want to see that. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. 7. 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This project is the equivalent the KiwiSaver HomeStart cap. This project is the equivalent of project is the equivalent of building project is the equivalent of building 3.5 project is the equivalent of building 3.5 new project is the equivalent of building 3.5 new houses project is the equivalent of building 3.5 new houses on project is the equivalent of building 3.5 new houses on every building 3.5 new houses on every single building 3.5 new houses on every single street building 3.5 new houses on every single street in building 3.5 new houses on every single street in Auckland. building 3.5 new houses on every single street in Auckland. The building 3.5 new houses on every single street in Auckland. The vast single street in Auckland. The vast single street in Auckland. The vast single street in Auckland. The vast majority of single street in Auckland. The vast majority of these single street in Auckland. The vast majority of these new single street in Auckland. 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Our housing programme is fully costed and we know that the fully costed and we know that the first fully costed and we know that the first phase fully costed and we know that the first phase of fully costed and we know that the first phase of the fully costed and we know that the first phase of the Auckland fully costed and we know that the first phase of the Auckland Housing first phase of the Auckland Housing programme first phase of the Auckland Housing programme will first phase of the Auckland Housing programme will cost first phase of the Auckland Housing programme will cost $2.23 first phase of the Auckland Housing programme will cost $2.23 billion programme will cost $2.23 billion over programme will cost $2.23 billion over four programme will cost $2.23 billion over four years programme will cost $2.23 billion over four years before programme will cost $2.23 billion over four years before becoming over four years before becoming self-funding over four years before becoming self-funding through over four years before becoming self-funding through the over four years before becoming self-funding through the sale over four years before becoming self-funding through the sale of self-funding through the sale of affordable self-funding through the sale of affordable and self-funding through the sale of affordable and market self-funding through the sale of affordable and market houses. self-funding through the sale of affordable and market houses. 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Housing New Zealand will retain dividends and proceeds from retain dividends and proceeds from state retain dividends and proceeds from state housing retain dividends and proceeds from state housing transfers retain dividends and proceeds from state housing transfers to retain dividends and proceeds from state housing transfers to help retain dividends and proceeds from state housing transfers to help fund state housing transfers to help fund the state housing transfers to help fund the programme state housing transfers to help fund the programme as state housing transfers to help fund the programme as well state housing transfers to help fund the programme as well as state housing transfers to help fund the programme as well as taking state housing transfers to help fund the programme as well as taking on state housing transfers to help fund the programme as well as taking on a the programme as well as taking on a $1.1 the programme as well as taking on a $1.1 billion the programme as well as taking on a $1.1 billion private the programme as well as taking on a $1.1 billion private debt the programme as well as taking on a $1.1 billion private debt facility. $1.1 billion private debt facility. 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The project has been two years in The project has been two years in development The project has been two years in development to The project has been two years in development to ensure The project has been two years in development to ensure that The project has been two years in development to ensure that our The project has been two years in development to ensure that our plans development to ensure that our plans are development to ensure that our plans are realistic development to ensure that our plans are realistic in development to ensure that our plans are realistic in terms development to ensure that our plans are realistic in terms of development to ensure that our plans are realistic in terms of both development to ensure that our plans are realistic in terms of both the are realistic in terms of both the efficient are realistic in terms of both the efficient maximisation... efficient maximisation... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! 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By supporting Taranaki's growth as a top growth. By supporting Taranaki's growth as a top priority growth. By supporting Taranaki's growth as a top priority for growth. By supporting Taranaki's growth as a top priority for the growth as a top priority for the Government. growth as a top priority for the Government. That growth as a top priority for the Government. That is growth as a top priority for the Government. That is why growth as a top priority for the Government. That is why we growth as a top priority for the Government. That is why we are Government. That is why we are Government. That is why we are Government. That is why we are investing in Government. That is why we are investing in the Government. That is why we are investing in the two Government. That is why we are investing in the two bypasses Government. 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When completed there will be travel completed there will be travel completed there will be travel completed there will be travel timesavings for completed there will be travel timesavings for motorists completed there will be travel timesavings for motorists and timesavings for motorists and timesavings for motorists and timesavings for motorists and freight companies timesavings for motorists and freight companies and timesavings for motorists and freight companies and the timesavings for motorists and freight companies and the new timesavings for motorists and freight companies and the new road freight companies and the new road will freight companies and the new road will see freight companies and the new road will see fewer freight companies and the new road will see fewer deaths freight companies and the new road will see fewer deaths and freight companies and the new road will see fewer deaths and serious will see fewer deaths and serious injuries will see fewer deaths and serious injuries from will see fewer deaths and serious injuries from crashes. will see fewer deaths and serious injuries from crashes. 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Question <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Question No. 10. 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What economic backgrounds. What other economic backgrounds. What other measures economic backgrounds. What other measures has economic backgrounds. What other measures has the What other measures has the Government What other measures has the Government taken What other measures has the Government taken to What other measures has the Government taken to address What other measures has the Government taken to address teacher Government taken to address teacher supply Government taken to address teacher Government Government taken to address teacher supply and quality? supply and quality? Mr supply and quality? Mr Speaker, supply and quality? Mr Speaker, as supply and quality? Mr Speaker, as I supply and quality? Mr Speaker, as I said supply and quality? Mr Speaker, as I said in supply and quality? Mr Speaker, as I said in my supply and quality? 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