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18 year old filmmaker, Awa, tells her very personal story of growing up transgender.

Miriama Kamo presents Sunday, award-winning investigations into the stories that matter, from a team of the country's most experienced journalists.

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  • Sunday
Date Broadcast
  • Sunday 4 June 2017
Start Time
  • 19 : 30
Finish Time
  • 20 : 30
Duration
  • 60:00
Channel
  • TVNZ 1
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  • Television New Zealand
Programme Description
  • Miriama Kamo presents Sunday, award-winning investigations into the stories that matter, from a team of the country's most experienced journalists.
Episode Description
  • 18 year old filmmaker, Awa, tells her very personal story of growing up transgender.
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  • Not Classified
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  • Chapman Archive
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  • Television
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  • English
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  • English
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Live Broadcast
  • No
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  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
Sunday ` proudly brought to you by Mazda. Kia ora. I'm Miriama Kamo. Tonight in a Sunday special, we meet 18-year-old Te Awarangi, known as Awa. She's a young woman from Wellington who's openly transgender, transitioning from male to female. This is her personal story of identity and struggle. She lets us into her life, and we meet her family, doctor, school and her friends who have supported her to live as her real self. With a growing awareness of transgender issues and this week's discussion around gender-neutral school uniforms and bathrooms, this is a courageous side of a very emotional debate. (GENTLE MUSIC) Tonight is the premiere for my film Black Dog, and I am so excited. Everyone I know is here. WOMAN: Oh, look who it is! (ALL CHEER) When I was little, I really wanted to be involved with the film industry, but every time I thought of a director, I thought of Peter Jackson, and I thought, 'Oh my God, I don't wanna, like, spend all my life 'just covered in this big beard and quite...' (LAUGHTER) You know? Like, this manliness. Because every time I thought of a director, I thought of a man. I just wanna be myself, you know? MALE VOICE: I can't explain what's wrong with me. But I can show you. (TENSE MUSIC) DAD: Gotta be here somewhere. 'When I was about 7, I wrote a story about Charlie the dog.' It was a booklet, and I did, like, a couple of versions of the cover. I remember it, actually ` a dog actually thought it was a cat and was surprised when other people said, 'You're not a cat, you're a dog.' Yeah, it was just trying to find its place, I guess. Found it. Yay! Awesome. READS: 'Once upon a time, there was a very unusual-looking dog which kind of looked like a cat. 'Most likely you would think people would tease him. If you think you were wrong, you're not. 'And being quite right, they teased him a lot, and his name was Charlie.' Aw... Even though I didn't really understand what I was writing about at the time, I kind of look back at it and realise that Charlie the dog who looked like a cat was actually me. I remember from a very very young age, I always felt like I was not in the right body, ever since I had conscious thoughts. For the past four years, I've been making videos about my life and documenting my transition and putting them up on YouTube. Hi, guys, CJ here. Today I'm going to be talking about something really important, and it means a lot to me. Let's just say it's, like, a pretty big thing. And obviously you can see by the title of this video that I am transgender. When I was younger, I used to look in the mirror a lot. I would look for so long and just hate everything I saw looking back at me and just thought, 'Out of the seven billion people in the world, 'why me? Why was I the only one born like this? Born in the wrong body?' What makes people transgender ` I don't think that we know, any more than we know why I was born left-handed and why my sister was born right-handed. I think what we do appreciate now, though, is that your gender identity seems to be decided before you are born, so that your journey in life is fundamentally decided before birth. Gender identity seems to be something that's a biological thing, so perhaps it's affected by genetics or hormones, rather than something that happens after we're born, and so we don't think that parenting styles or society pressure is determining what your gender identity is. I've always thought I was a girl, that people around me always tried to tell me I was a boy, and even my body tried to tell me, and what was on the outside never reflected what I felt on the inside. BOY: Now, what's his name, Caroline? CLIVE: What's his name, Caroline? Te Awarangi. Te Awarangi. And, who's his father? Um... Just say the fella on your right. My full name is Te Awarangi, but when I was little, a lot of people could not say Te Awarangi,... ALL SING: # Happy birthday, Te Awarangi... # ...so (CHUCKLES) they called me CJ, which was a mix between Clive Junior and Caroline Jo ` both my parents. When I started actually transitioning, my parents decided to actually call me Awa, because it sounded a little bit more feminine. When did you guys realise that I wasn't happy in my own skin? Well, I guess I knew from when you were really really little. And you used to say to me, 'Mummy, I've got a girl's heart but a boy's body.' I remember saying that. You were only about 3 or 4. So I've always known. What about you, Dad? I think I was in denial, unconsciously in denial. Often we would go to the kohanga, and often we'd see you wearing a dress. And they would say, 'Oh, it was play time today,' and there was a bit more acceptance from me because there were other young boys that were also in dresses. 'Oh, yeah, maybe it's all just fun and games.' Thought it was a phase. (CHUCKLES) (TENSE MUSIC) Coming out wasn't really my choice. A friend hacked into my Facebook page, and pretending to be me, wrote a status saying, 'I'm transgender.' I didn't know about it. People kept on coming up to me saying, 'Congratulations!' GIRL'S VOICE: I'm so proud of you. I was thinking, 'For what?' (TENSE MUSIC) I wasn't ready to come out, and someone had taken that away from me. Mum said that a switch just flipped, and she was thinking, 'This is either going to make you or break you.' At least I didn't have to hide anymore. CAROLINE: Awa! Awa. It's half-past 7. Yep! 'Wherever we went, people always thought that Awa was our daughter.' Pardon? Have you seen my skirt? What's that? After a while, I just went, 'Oh yeah, yeah.' I didn't correct them. But you always used to correct them. I remember the day I had to try on and buy a school uniform, just before year nine started. And obviously I had to get a boy school uniform. Me and Dad, we walked into the uniform shop at school. We walked up to the counter, and the lady said, 'All righty, um, what size skirt do you reckon you'll be, hon?' And my dad's like, (GRUFFLY) 'He's a boy.' So, are you guys going to be late for school again today? I thought, 'That was it. We're supporting you.' I wasn't prepared for the other things in our lives at all, so had to transition. My acceptance had to include that you wanted to wear a dress to the school. Hurry up, Awa. Yes. In year 10, after wearing a boy's uniform, mm, I asked if I could wear a girl's uniform. See ya. Love you. Love you too. Coming to school like a girl and that was one of the most scariest moments of my life. There wasn't a formal process. It was` In the end it was a natural process. Her mum, Caroline, was a teacher at the school, and I remember Awa as a little boy coming along with Mum. I guess it was a point of 'everybody knows anyway. What difference does it make?' It was really nerve-wracking, I was scared what people were going to think. And I walked in, but I felt so myself. I felt finally just me, and my friends were so good about it. Everyone in school ` I was so scared I was going to be bullied, but they were actually really good. They were like, 'How are you doing?' You're doing OK, right?' (STUDENTS CHATTER) The Ministry of Education ` it sets expectations for us in terms of student safety. How that plays out is then up to the school admins board, but overall, for all of us, 'Is the student safe and happy?' Cos to be successful, you have to be safe and happy first. Schools have a responsibility in terms of the care, support and safety of their students, however they identify or however they express their gender or sexuality, so that they're not bullied, they're not physically harmed, and they're able to carry on with their learning and their extracurricular activities like any other student. Our anti-discrimination laws kick in wherever people are in their lives ` doing their jobs, being at school. Lately, there's been a lot of talk about who goes in which toilet, etc, etc. When Awa was first transitioning, I guess my response to that was 'I understand the issues, and I'm not sure how people would react 'if you were using the girls toilets instead of the boys toilets, 'so at the moment a simple solution to that is to give you a key for the staff toilets.' But recently I've just been going in the girls toilets, cos... what's really wrong with that? The way that Awa started using the girl's facilities was really quite interesting, because it was the girls who invited Awa in. It all sort of disappeared as an issue, nicely, without it being an issue. (UPBEAT MUSIC) (SIGHS) So I want the gender-reassignment surgery because... it's literally what will just make me be me. And it's not just about the way I look. It's deeper than that. It's the difference between actually wanting to be here or not. (MUSIC CONTINUES) Do I want to live my life authentic or do I just want to be trapped in a body all my life that I absolutely despise. 1 (RELAXING MUSIC) I'm on a journey to just becoming` just my idea of a woman. The treatment I'm on is pretty easy to explain ` I take a pill a day to keep me looking like a girl. How are you? I'm good, thanks. OK, take up your position. You know what to do, eh? 'And I take one injection every months to stop me from looking like a guy.' For a long time I was researching hormones and how they work. And I really wanted to get on them as soon as possible, because I didn't want to go through puberty. When I was 14, I went to the doctor. I was scared, but I was also desperate, so I made an appointment without my parents. I could see the next patient on my screen was Awa. I've known Awa since she was born. I opened the door, and here was this stunning, sort of, 14-year-old girl, and I really had to think, 'Goodness is this Awa?' Sitting in her office I actually felt like I was going to throw up. But I knew it was what I had to do if I wanted to actually be who I wanted to be. I thought, 'Oh!' Because I'd been expecting that something would happen at some time, because she wasn't the routine, average run-of-the-mill small boy that comes to see me. I don't know what I would have done if I had gone to a doctor that was completely against it, because you know, I'd be doomed! Probably. But it turns out that you can't get medication that young without telling your parents. So I had to talk to my parents about it first. I remember I told you I wanted to, like, go on blockers and hormones. And mum came and saw me and said, 'Awa has self-referred to the doctor, and Dr Ruth Brown would like to talk to us both about you.' Your mum said to me, 'There's some things you need to be aware of about Te Awarangi.' I said, 'Well, just tell me.' And she said, Te Awarangi doesn't feel right in his body and wants to become a girl.' And I thought for a second, I thought, 'Well, how do I feel about that?' There was one side of me that was saying, 'Yes, it's happening. You should support it, regardless.' And there was another part of me saying, 'Well, isn't it just a phase?' I want to try and convince you that once this happens, there's no turning back. Before I started taking medication, I had to talk to a counsellor, a child psychologist and an endocrinologist. I hated feeling like I had to prove that I wasn't insane. I have known for so long who I was, and now I had to kind of convince the whole world. I remember walking into the nurses room and seeing Awa for the first time, and I saw this really uncomfortable, awkward boy. I first assumed that I maybe had a young gay man that wanted some support. I think it was a really difficult place for her when she started the sessions. She didn't really see much hope. She didn't really know where to go from here. The pathway wasn't clearly` there was no pathway, really. I was kind of in denial, and I knew that other people wouldn't accept what I wanted, so why would I accept myself? I truly felt like I was just a... perversion of nature. She was really nervous about what was emerging, which was this sense that she really wanted to live her authentic self. He just reassured me that everything would be OK and everything I'm feeling in that moment isn't permanent. He, like, really helped me. You transformed from a really gangly, awkward, unhappy boy (CHUCKLES) to a really, really self-assured, confident girl. I've never thought of myself as a boy. No, no. (GENTLE MUSIC) All my brothers live in Okato, which is a little town outside of New Plymouth. They're all a bit older than me, with a different dad. (ALL CHATTER) But we grew up together, and they were always surfing, skateboarding, fighting. They were just real boys, I guess. And they always used to tease me for being a girly little long-haired thing, because they kind of wanted me to be a macho man like them. My brothers are, like, so shy, so at first they didn't really want to be in this documentary, but we're going up there because we've never really talked about what happened when I was growing up. Many times at the dinner table, we had that discussion that Awa acted like a girl, looked like a girl, had long hair, and that went on for quite a long time. And I was always going, 'Shh. Shush, shush, shush.' I guess there was a time that we realised that it was getting to Awa. I remember saying, 'Why would anyone choose this? 'Why would you ever think that this would be anyone's choice ` to be different?' You were just born this way, and why would we ever want to change Awa from the way she was? She had so many wonderful personality traits ` is loving and kind and clever and all that kind of stuff. And, actually, out there in the world, it was probably going to be tough. We knew it probably would be tough. So therefore if it was tough out in the world and it was also tough when you come home, where's your sanctuary, where's your peace, and where's your acceptance? I think even at times Awa's admitted that without family support, she does not know how people get through the same thing that she's got through. I think the bulk of that can actually go to you, Mum. We all grew up as well, once we started having a good think about it. We were like, 'Hang on a second. This isn't really our choice at all.' Yeah. most important thing is that Awa's happy. We always knew that Awa was different. But our biggest concern as brothers was just the bullying at school, seeing how cruel kids could be ` more of a protective brother thing. From a certain point you kinda stopped saying, like, things like, 'Cut your hair. Why's your hair so long? Stop listening to that music. What the hell's this movie?' 'Why are you talking like a girl?' 'Why are you talking like a baby? 'That squeaky voice.' I'm embarrassed of being that person eh, you know? Being like that. I think having my own child as well has made me realise that whatever she wants to do or be is completely up to her, and I would do the same ` I would support any decisions that she had to make as well. So I think that's made me realise. At home I feel really supported. At school I feel supported by my friends, but in the real world I feel like a bomb could go off at any second. 1 I was, like, at a party, I didn't really want to be there, you know? I was just outside breathing in the fresh air, and a guy walks out of the shadows. And he just approached me, and he just gave me` he just kissed me. And then I walked away just saying, 'I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. 'I'm sorry. I can't do this.' And just kind of ran back into the house. How were you feeling at that point? Just like I'd betrayed someone. Well, I didn't tell him that I wasn't like every other girl. Well, I do feel like a girl but not everyone sees me that way. Something as simple as a kiss, like, I can't. I just can't do that. Um, whatever I say, I have to watch out. Whatever I do, I just have to be careful ` way more careful than most people. My friend, like, grabbed me and took me into the bathroom and said what 'What did you do? What did you do?' And the guy had started, like, smashing walls and... Why do you think he was reacting so aggressively? He was probably disgusted, probably, I'm guessing. I can only guess. Disgusted? Yeah. Now after that I just expect the worse. I feel like anyone who's going to find out about me is going to smash walls or something. Sometimes I just feel like, 'Who's ever going to love me?' Stand by, and,... action. My passion is film-making. A couple of months ago I won a film competition, and the prize was to remake the film with professional film equipment. And,... you're OK? Black Dog is about depression, which is something I know quite a lot about. BOY: This... This is how I feel. (OMINOUS MUSIC) The message of the film is actually just to let people know that it's OK just to not be OK. Just open up. Cut. Um, that was really good. I really felt that. 'The films that I made when I was younger had a lot of subtext,' and I was kind of, like, oblivious of how that connected with my real life. I did a scene about me coming home, and I just needed to transition in to a vampire, and I walk up to a mirror and I say... VOICE ECHOES: I don't feel myself. What is your real name? I've always been very interested in, like, obsessed with vampires, basically. But I never really understood why until I got older. There's, like, that sense of being an outcast and not being the same as everyone else And kind of having to hide that. Now, I realize it's a little bit sensitive but can I ask you, are you sexually active yet? No. And, um, well, the reason I don't really want to be active is because I'm not that really happy with the way I am at the moment. That's perfectly normal, and that may be one reason why you want to start thinking about surgical options at some stage. If you want to do it. There's no need to do it. You can continue on exactly as you are for as long as you want. When the time comes, if you chose to have more major surgery, we're going to have to have a very careful look. I heard it was possible to get surgery in New Zealand a few years ago. We had a team of people in a gender-dysphoria clinic in Christchurch. And this had been` We set this up in 1992 when we saw there was a necessity for this. And we had a team of social workers, psychologists, psychiatrists, endocrinologists, genito-urinary surgeons, colorectal surgeons, and myself as the plastic and reconstructive surgeon. (SLOW MUSIC) It seems you need a lot of people to get the operation right, but where are we going to find the expertise again? At the moment within New Zealand, there is the expertise to carry out what is colloquial termed the 'top surgeries', so chest surgery, facial surgery. What we lack with the retirement of Peter Walker is somebody with the skill and experience to perform genital gender-reassignment surgery. When Peter announced that he were going to retire, he himself at a personal level tried to actively find a replacement for himself in the country, and we weren't able to identify anybody who had either the expertise or the interest in taking that on. And so we identified that, really, the only way to do that was to identify a surgeon in training who was willing to take that on. 1 (GENTLE MUSIC) My dad's iwi is Ngati Kahungunu. And we're going to the marae to see how they will feel about their Te Awarangi living as a female. Recolonisation ` what we have to tell us the stories of how things used to be. We have the European record of what they saw when they got here, but we also have Maori narratives because, of course, we had oral traditions. So we know that there was gender fluidity. We know that there was acceptance of same sex behaviour. 'Takatapui' is an ancient Maori word that we have reclaimed to embrace all Maori with diverse genders, sexualities and sexes. But eventually it's all about being Maori, being proud to be Maori, and knowing who we are and being proud of that. The kaumatua at the marae wants to show me where I've come from ` my whakapapa ` before the whanau all sit down and have a korero. Well, our back wall is all our whanau who has passed on. My nan and papa live in the area, and he found it really difficult to accept that he had a trans granddaughter. You're lucky to have a nice whanau here. We support one another. You know, we have our differences ` there's nothing wrong with that. it clears the air. (LAUGHTER) We laugh, we cry with one another. (LAUGHS) Can we hear from yourself, Awa, about your life and getting to this stage? All my life I've known, ever since conscious thoughts, I've known that I just wasn't completely myself. I mean, if I could be normal, I might, because it would just be easier. But it's just something that I can't actually help; it's just something I can't change. Yeah. You're very brave doing this. Very very brave. And one of the prettiest people on this marae, I might add. (LAUGHTER) Goodness gracious, you wanna see some of our women. Ooh! Very beautiful. It's going to be a neat journey. That word that they use ` 'come out of the closet' ` we need more to come out. Yeah. We've got a lot hiding around here in every marae. And my son's really gay in that way, but then we love him. I can't not love him. He's as gay as a fruit cake, and that's all right. He's a good person. He's a good person. My son's a good person. Some of my family have stories that I've never heard before. Tena koe, Awa. I've been a widow for... 20-odd years. But I am, um, been living` I have a partner, and I've been living with her for almost 20 years now. I have a lot of gay friends that have come out of the closet later in life. And it was a struggle for them. You're 17, and you can face the world, because a lot of them couldn't, couldn't do it. Yeah. And I'm proud of you to make that journey here to us. No matter what we do with our children, we love them all. We have to love them no matter what. Kia ora, Auntie. I can only support you. You're actually going through this full transition, so when you become fully` you may come back to this place. I will. And we all want you take this journey with you. You won't be on your own. Yeah. Because this is a lovely whanau. Exactly. Thank you, whanau, thank you for the support. To my son ` I can see him looking at me, wanting me to say something. (LAUGHS) He's smiling. To my moko, have a safe journey... in your future. I know you're going to make us proud. Um... I've got to be honest, it's taken me years to accept this, but when we came down to Wellington to see you acting in that play, my heart went out to you. (CRIES) I realised I was just being stubborn and stupid. That's all I can say. I'm sorry. Thank you for everything. MAN: There's a lot of tears of love. Thank you. Ka pai, Royal. Love you so much, Papa. Ka pai, Royal. It's just so heart-wrenching to know that he really wanted to understand but just` he couldn't quite get there straight away. And it was really touching that he revealed his true feelings. All I can really say is how honoured I felt to actually hear how much these people, how much my family actually loves me, regardless of what gender I want to be. They wouldn't care if I wanted to be a fricken banana, they would still love me. A fricken banana. (LAUGHS) (UPBEAT MUSIC) I honestly believe that if our sexuality and our gender is part of our wairua, it's part of how we are, then it is absolutely the whanau's responsibility to uphold that and to ensure that their child, their niece, their nephew, their sister, their brother is looked after and protected and helped along that journey and to go along that journey with them. I know there are others out there like me, and it's becoming more mainstream, and it seems to be more acceptable with Caitlin Jenner and the Transparent TV series. But it's still so impossible to get an operation in New Zealand. I want to. I think it will change everything for me. (UPBEAT MUSIC) I've heard about a girl who managed to get an operation overseas. Hello. How are you? Lovely to see you. Lovely to see you. We're going to meet some people. When he was called Nik, he came second in New Zealand Idol. I'm looking for new and exciting opportunities. But that wasn't enough. Nik needed to become Nikki. I plan to do the surgery in the future, but did you ever think about doing it New Zealand? Back when I was thinking about it, to jump on the waiting list, I mean, I would have been about 75 or something before I could have had the surgery. Because there is no way to get an operation in New Zealand, she had to figure out something else. So Nikki agreed to be filmed through a TV series that would pay for her surgery in Thailand. My name is Nikki Lee Carlson. I'm 37 years old, and I'm going to Thailand to have a gender reassignment surgery and breast augmentation. Were you sure that you wanted the operation? When men think of this surgery, or when anyone thinks of the surgery, they go, 'Oh, ow!' But, honestly, I had longed for this body. I had wanted this body from a very young age. And I tell you, it's such a happy feeling to achieve a dream that you have dreamt for a very long time. With the surgery you can just have that body that matches your soul. I think I feel the same. I feel the same, I do. I've always wanted to be in the body that I was meant to be in. And I don't think that that will ever go away. Yeah. Nikki has had a really positive experience, but I heard it was a nightmare for Lisa, another Kiwi woman who also got her operation in Thailand. How are you today? Like, on a level, you know. CHUCKLES: I'm just trying to hold it in here at the moment. Yeah. I had surgery about three years ago, hoping it would make me feel totally complete as a woman and who I am. You know, so I could finally get on with my life and actually start enjoying it. I went over to Bangkok. And the surgeon pretty much stuffed things up. Sometimes I can be sitting here, and the next thing, it's like someone's got a knife and just starts stabbing me. I instantly knew it was wrong. It was kind of like I got hit by a big truck, cos... I had to come back here to New Zealand. There was nothing they could do for me. It was, like, four months later, I was still in pain, so it's when I had to start fighting to get corrective surgery. (GENTLE MUSIC) They sent me to Dr (BLEEP) in Phuket, and he basically didn't do much at all. It kind of just felt like a waste of time going over there. I need to have this corrective surgery and have everything done properly, the way it should have been done. Lisa tried really hard to get corrective surgery in Thailand. But I want to know what's happening in New Zealand right now. The situation in New Zealand if you're transgender, get through the process, and if it's determined that you qualify for gender-reassignment surgery, is that you go on a waiting list. Essentially we have 76 New Zealanders waiting for a surgery that is deemed vital and that the qualify for. We have zero capacity in New Zealand to conduct those surgeries, and for the last three years, no New Zealander has been sent overseas to receive the surgery. So that's my choice ` go overseas and pay for it myself or go on a TV show and show the whole world. But I want it. I want to have it here, with my family to support me, and aftercare if anything goes wrong. But will that ever happen? (GENTLE MUSIC) My mum was the first person I told about how I felt, that I felt so out of place and I was scared she wasn't going to accept what I had to say, but she did, and that's what helped me get through this. And she's helped get my dad on board, my brothers on board. With that support from everyone, I feel like I can get through, you know, whatever life throws at me. Unika reminds me more of myself. Yeah? Why's that, honey? Because he's quite ambitious. Bolshie? Ambitious? Bolshie?! (LAUGHS) Excuse me! I can finally be who I want to be, but not fully because I don't know how that will happen. Will New Zealand change? Will we actually be able to get operations here? I can officially become female on my passport by filling in a few forms. Where you off to? Aussie. Oh, awesome. We'll just take another one just to make sure. I've got to get my parents to sign and my doctor to sign and witnessed by a JP, but after that... (POIGNANT MUSIC) There we go ` officially female. But it's not enough. It's a big step, but there's still more I want to do. Is there any chance of me getting surgery? If I want answers, I have to go to the top. But the Minister of Health did not want to be in this documentary. Labour MP Louisa Wall has agreed to meet me, and she played a really big part in legalising same-sex marriage in New Zealand. What can we do to, you know, advance the issue? So, we need two kinds of processes. One is to train somebody up so that they can come home and perform those surgeries in New Zealand, and then in the meantime we should be identifying a clinic overseas where these people can be sent to to have their surgery. All I see is more and more people being added to a waiting list, that at the moment there's no hope for` No movement. No movement. For a young person like you, it means you're going to go on a very long waiting list that's going to take us over 30 years to meet the needs of New Zealanders who are already on there. And that's way too long. People can't wait for 30 years to have surgery. What's happening to those people in the interim? What's their mental health like? You know, how are they coping? I really do think that's the biggest challenge for us as a country. Is it acceptable that young New Zealanders become depressed, self-harm and then some of them commit suicide because we're not treating them medically? (SLOW MUSIC) (WAVES CRASH) When I spoke to Louisa Wall, she said that I would probably` could be an advocate for, you know, transgender people. As a mum, I think my big concerns with that is that you are so young, you know, if you put yourself out there as a poster child, it's a pretty big mantle to carry. I think no matter what you're fighting for, there's always going to be someone who opposes it, so... If nobody fights anything, nothing changes. Yeah. The waiting list is, like, 35 years? It's a long time, isn't it? People that are in the same position as you, and they have no money, they basically have to live their whole life trapped in the wrong body ` the body that they don't feel they're meant to be in. So whatever you decide, we'll be behind you. (GENTLE MUSIC) I have so much. I'm a director. Cut! My family is amazing. I love school, and my friends are so supportive, but there's one thing that I need to finish my journey, and that one thing can't be done in New Zealand. I want to be accepted. I want to be a person, and I want to live, not survive, and struggle. I want to be a woman inside and out. (INSPIRING MUSIC) Wow, she's very brave, and Awa's halfway through her final year at Kapiti College. She's on the head student team there and is writing a new short film. Well, that's tonight's show. Do join us on Facebook and Twitter ` SundayTVNZ And thanks for joining us this evening. Nga mihi nui. Hei kona. Captions by June Yeow. www.able.co.nz Captions were made with the support of NZ On Air. Copyright Able 2017