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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. When When the When the House When the House resumes When the House resumes on When the House resumes on Tuesday When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June the When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June the Government When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June the Government will When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June the Government will look When the House resumes on Tuesday 27 June the Government will look to June the Government will look to make June the Government will look to make progress June the Government will look to make progress on June the Government will look to make progress on the June the Government will look to make progress on the Appropriation make progress on the Appropriation (2016/17 make progress on the Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary make progress on the Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Appropriation (2016/17 (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Bill, Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Bill, the Appropriation (2016/17 Supplementary Estimates) Bill, the Energy Estimates) Bill, the Energy Innovation Estimates) Bill, the Energy Innovation (Electric Estimates) Bill, the Energy Innovation (Electric Vehicles Estimates) Bill, the Energy Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Other Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Other Matters) Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Other Matters) Amendment Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Other Matters) Amendment Bill, Innovation (Electric Vehicles and Other Matters) Amendment Bill, the Other Matters) Amendment Bill, the Point Other Matters) Amendment Bill, the Point England Other Matters) Amendment Bill, the Point England Development Other Matters) Amendment Bill, the Point England Development Enabling Point England Development Enabling Bill Point England Development Enabling Bill and Point England Development Enabling Bill and a Point England Development Enabling Bill and a number Point England Development Enabling Bill and a number of Point England Development Enabling Bill and a number of other Point England Development Enabling Bill and a number of other bills Point England Development Enabling Bill and a number of other bills on Bill and a number of other bills on the Bill and a number of other bills on the Order Bill and a number of other bills on the Order Paper. 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He's done a marvellous job in recent years. He's done a marvellous job of in recent years. He's done a marvellous job of getting in recent years. He's done a marvellous job of getting extra marvellous job of getting extra money marvellous job of getting extra money out marvellous job of getting extra money out of marvellous job of getting extra money out of the marvellous job of getting extra money out of the Budget, marvellous job of getting extra money out of the Budget, an marvellous job of getting extra money out of the Budget, an extra money out of the Budget, an extra $439 money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million going money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million going into money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million going into DHBs. money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million going into DHBs. And money out of the Budget, an extra $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, I $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, I think $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, I think those $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, I think those people $439 million going into DHBs. And Mr Speaker, I think those people out Speaker, I think those people out there, Speaker, I think those people out there, it's Speaker, I think those people out there, it's unfortunate Speaker, I think those people out there, it's unfortunate they Speaker, I think those people out there, it's unfortunate they don't there, it's unfortunate they don't have there, it's unfortunate they don't have better there, it's unfortunate they don't have better reng. there, it's unfortunate they don't have better reng. Supplementary. have better reng. Supplementary. Thank have better reng. Supplementary. Thank you. have better reng. Supplementary. Thank you. To have better reng. Supplementary. Thank you. To the have better reng. 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No more interjections from you more interjections from you otherwise more interjections from you otherwise you more interjections from you otherwise you will more interjections from you otherwise you will be more interjections from you otherwise you will be leaving more interjections from you otherwise you will be leaving the otherwise you will be leaving the Chamber otherwise you will be leaving the Chamber this otherwise you will be leaving the Chamber this question otherwise you will be leaving the Chamber this question time. otherwise you will be leaving the Chamber this question time. Thank Chamber this question time. Thank you Chamber this question time. Thank you very Chamber this question time. Thank you very much. Chamber this question time. Thank you very much. Does Chamber this question time. Thank you very much. Does the Chamber this question time. Thank you very much. Does the PM Chamber this question time. Thank you very much. Does the PM have you very much. Does the PM have confidence you very much. Does the PM have confidence in you very much. Does the PM have confidence in his you very much. Does the PM have confidence in his minister you very much. Does the PM have confidence in his minister for confidence in his minister for energy confidence in his minister for energy who confidence in his minister for energy who keeps confidence in his minister for energy who keeps allowing confidence in his minister for energy who keeps allowing the energy who keeps allowing the Electricity energy who keeps allowing the Electricity Authority energy who keeps allowing the Electricity Authority to energy who keeps allowing the Electricity Authority to delay energy who keeps allowing the Electricity Authority to delay their Electricity Authority to delay their new Electricity Authority to delay their new pricing Electricity Authority to delay their new pricing methodology Electricity Authority to delay their new pricing methodology which Electricity Authority to delay their new pricing methodology which has new pricing methodology which has led new pricing methodology which has led business new pricing methodology which has led business leaders new pricing methodology which has led business leaders to new pricing methodology which has led business leaders to say new pricing methodology which has led business leaders to say publicly led business leaders to say publicly that led business leaders to say publicly that the led business leaders to say publicly that the uncertainty led business leaders to say publicly that the uncertainty is led business leaders to say publicly that the uncertainty is stopping that the uncertainty is stopping them that the uncertainty is stopping them from that the uncertainty is stopping them from investing that the uncertainty is stopping them from investing in that the uncertainty is stopping them from investing in our that the uncertainty is stopping them from investing in our regions them from investing in our regions and them from investing in our regions and for them from investing in our regions and for the them from investing in our regions and for the benefit them from investing in our regions and for the benefit of them from investing in our regions and for the benefit of Mr them from investing in our regions and for the benefit of Mr Bridges, and for the benefit of Mr Bridges, and and for the benefit of Mr Bridges, and finally and for the benefit of Mr Bridges, and finally implemented and for the benefit of Mr Bridges, and finally implemented the and finally implemented the methodology and finally implemented the methodology will and finally implemented the methodology will be and finally implemented the methodology will be so and finally implemented the methodology will be so harmful and finally implemented the methodology will be so harmful as and finally implemented the methodology will be so harmful as to methodology will be so harmful as to make methodology will be so harmful as to make any methodology will be so harmful as to make any investment methodology will be so harmful as to make any investment from methodology will be so harmful as to make any investment from that make any investment from that government make any investment from that government in make any investment from that government in the make any investment from that government in the regions make any investment from that government in the regions absolutely government in the regions absolutely nonsensical. government in the regions absolutely nonsensical. The government in the regions absolutely nonsensical. The Hon government in the regions absolutely nonsensical. The Hon Gerry government in the regions absolutely nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee on nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee on behalf nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee on behalf of nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee on behalf of the nonsensical. The Hon Gerry Brownlee on behalf of the PM. on behalf of the PM. On on behalf of the PM. On the on behalf of the PM. On the behalf on behalf of the PM. On the behalf of on behalf of the PM. On the behalf of the on behalf of the PM. On the behalf of the PM, on behalf of the PM. On the behalf of the PM, yes. on behalf of the PM. On the behalf of the PM, yes. She's On the behalf of the PM, yes. She's an On the behalf of the PM, yes. She's an excellent On the behalf of the PM, yes. She's an excellent Energy On the behalf of the PM, yes. She's an excellent Energy Minister an excellent Energy Minister carrying an excellent Energy Minister carrying on an excellent Energy Minister carrying on the an excellent Energy Minister carrying on the good an excellent Energy Minister carrying on the good work an excellent Energy Minister carrying on the good work of carrying on the good work of previous carrying on the good work of previous minister carrying on the good work of previous minister Ministers carrying on the good work of previous minister Ministers and carrying on the good work of previous minister Ministers and I previous minister Ministers and I would previous minister Ministers and I would thank previous minister Ministers and I would thank -- previous minister Ministers and I would thank -- ministers previous minister Ministers and I would thank -- ministers and previous minister Ministers and I would thank -- ministers and I previous minister Ministers and I would thank -- ministers and I would would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate her would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate her on would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate her on her would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate her on her good would thank -- ministers and I would congratulate her on her good work. congratulate her on her good work. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Education: My question is to the Associate Minister of Education: What My question is to the Associate Minister of Education: What recent Minister of Education: What recent announcements Minister of Education: What recent announcements has Minister of Education: What recent announcements has he Minister of Education: What recent announcements has he made Minister of Education: What recent announcements has he made following announcements has he made following Budget announcements has he made following Budget 2017 announcements has he made following Budget 2017 on announcements has he made following Budget 2017 on school announcements has he made following Budget 2017 on school property? Thank Thank you. Thank you. My Thank you. My colleague Thank you. My colleague the Thank you. My colleague the honourable Thank you. My colleague the honourable Nikki Thank you. My colleague the honourable Nikki Kaye Thank you. My colleague the honourable Nikki Kaye and Thank you. My colleague the honourable Nikki Kaye and I Thank you. My colleague the honourable Nikki Kaye and I have honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently announced honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently announced how honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently announced how some honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently announced how some of honourable Nikki Kaye and I have recently announced how some of the recently announced how some of the $392.4 recently announced how some of the $392.4 million recently announced how some of the $392.4 million of recently announced how some of the $392.4 million of capital recently announced how some of the $392.4 million of capital funding $392.4 million of capital funding from $392.4 million of capital funding from Budget $392.4 million of capital funding from Budget 2017 $392.4 million of capital funding from Budget 2017 for $392.4 million of capital funding from Budget 2017 for education from Budget 2017 for education infrastructure from Budget 2017 for education infrastructure will from Budget 2017 for education infrastructure will be from Budget 2017 for education infrastructure will be spent. from Budget 2017 for education infrastructure will be spent. We're infrastructure will be spent. We're investing infrastructure will be spent. We're investing $30 infrastructure will be spent. We're investing $30 million infrastructure will be spent. We're investing $30 million in infrastructure will be spent. We're investing $30 million in Bay infrastructure will be spent. We're investing $30 million in Bay of investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty schools investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty schools and investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty schools and so investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty schools and so far investing $30 million in Bay of Plenty schools and so far have Plenty schools and so far have announced Plenty schools and so far have announced over Plenty schools and so far have announced over $8.5 Plenty schools and so far have announced over $8.5 million Plenty schools and so far have announced over $8.5 million in Plenty schools and so far have announced over $8.5 million in roll announced over $8.5 million in roll growth announced over $8.5 million in roll growth classrooms announced over $8.5 million in roll growth classrooms for announced over $8.5 million in roll growth classrooms for the growth classrooms for the Canterbury, growth classrooms for the Canterbury, wi growth classrooms for the Canterbury, wi cacao growth classrooms for the Canterbury, wi cacao and growth classrooms for the Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in that Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in that vein Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in that vein we Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in that vein we have Canterbury, wi cacao and Wellington regions and in that vein we have of regions and in that vein we have of many regions and in that vein we have of many more regions and in that vein we have of many more announcements regions and in that vein we have of many more announcements to regions and in that vein we have of many more announcements to come. many more announcements to come. Supplementary many more announcements to come. Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Supplementary Supplementary question. Supplementary Alastair Supplementary question. Supplementary Alastair Scott. Supplementary question. Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this investment Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this investment benefit Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this investment benefit the Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this investment benefit the Bay Supplementary Alastair Scott. Lou this investment benefit the Bay of this investment benefit the Bay of Plenty this investment benefit the Bay of Plenty region? Plenty region? Mr Plenty region? Mr Speaker, Plenty region? Mr Speaker, the Plenty region? Mr Speaker, the $30 Plenty region? Mr Speaker, the $30 million Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment in Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment in the Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment in the Bay Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment in the Bay of Mr Speaker, the $30 million investment in the Bay of Plenty investment in the Bay of Plenty region investment in the Bay of Plenty region will investment in the Bay of Plenty region will boost investment in the Bay of Plenty region will boost capacity investment in the Bay of Plenty region will boost capacity to investment in the Bay of Plenty region will boost capacity to help region will boost capacity to help accommodate region will boost capacity to help accommodate growing region will boost capacity to help accommodate growing roles region will boost capacity to help accommodate growing roles -- region will boost capacity to help accommodate growing roles -- rolls accommodate growing roles -- rolls in accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area by accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area by providing accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area by providing for accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area by providing for for accommodate growing roles -- rolls in the area by providing for for a in the area by providing for for a new in the area by providing for for a new school, in the area by providing for for a new school, expanding in the area by providing for for a new school, expanding golden in the area by providing for for a new school, expanding golden sands new school, expanding golden sands school new school, expanding golden sands school and new school, expanding golden sands school and building new school, expanding golden sands school and building nine new school, expanding golden sands school and building nine new school and building nine new classrooms school and building nine new classrooms at school and building nine new classrooms at another school and building nine new classrooms at another school. school and building nine new classrooms at another school. 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These new learning environments will These new learning environments will provide These new learning environments will provide a These new learning environments will provide a modern, These new learning environments will provide a modern, innovative These new learning environments will provide a modern, innovative and provide a modern, innovative and inspiring provide a modern, innovative and inspiring environment provide a modern, innovative and inspiring environment which provide a modern, innovative and inspiring environment which I provide a modern, innovative and inspiring environment which I am inspiring environment which I am confident inspiring environment which I am confident will inspiring environment which I am confident will support inspiring environment which I am confident will support educational confident will support educational success confident will support educational success for confident will support educational success for many confident will support educational success for many Bay confident will support educational success for many Bay of confident will support educational success for many Bay of Plenty success for many Bay of Plenty children. success for many Bay of Plenty children. Order! success for many Bay of Plenty children. Order! Is success for many Bay of Plenty children. Order! Is there success for many Bay of Plenty children. Order! Is there a children. Order! Is there a supplementary children. Order! Is there a supplementary question? children. Order! Is there a supplementary question? Point children. Order! Is there a supplementary question? Point of supplementary question? Point of order, supplementary question? Point of order, Grant supplementary question? Point of order, Grant Robertson. supplementary question? Point of order, Grant Robertson. Mr supplementary question? Point of order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I just order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I just want order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I just want to order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I just want to clarify order, Grant Robertson. Mr Speaker, I just want to clarify from order, Grant Robertson. 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Supplementary Supplementary? Supplementary question. Supplementary? Supplementary question. Does Supplementary? Supplementary question. Does the Supplementary? Supplementary question. Does the school Supplementary? Supplementary question. Does the school property question. Does the school property investment question. Does the school property investment in question. Does the school property investment in Budget question. Does the school property investment in Budget 2017 question. Does the school property investment in Budget 2017 include investment in Budget 2017 include funding investment in Budget 2017 include funding for investment in Budget 2017 include funding for Mariah investment in Budget 2017 include funding for Mariah based funding for Mariah based accommodation funding for Mariah based accommodation for funding for Mariah based accommodation for international accommodation for international students? accommodation for international students? Order! accommodation for international students? Order! The accommodation for international students? Order! The Hon accommodation for international students? Order! The Hon Tim students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. No, students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. No, it students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. No, it doesn't students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu students? Order! The Hon Tim Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff seen Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff seen reports Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff seen reports that Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff seen reports that one Macindoe. No, it doesn't vu biff seen reports that one other Macindoe. 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I seek the leave of the House will be heard in silence. Thank you. I seek the leave of the House to I seek the leave of the House to grant I seek the leave of the House to grant Alastair I seek the leave of the House to grant Alastair Scott I seek the leave of the House to grant Alastair Scott an I seek the leave of the House to grant Alastair Scott an opportunity grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to ask grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to ask a grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to ask a question grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to ask a question about grant Alastair Scott an opportunity to ask a question about the... to ask a question about the... Order! to ask a question about the... Order! Member to ask a question about the... Order! Member will to ask a question about the... Order! Member will resume to ask a question about the... Order! Member will resume his to ask a question about the... Order! Member will resume his seat. Order! 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Question will not get me to change my mind. Question No. will not get me to change my mind. Question No. 10. 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On behalf of the minister for On behalf of the minister for infrastructure, On behalf of the minister for infrastructure, the On behalf of the minister for infrastructure, the Minister On behalf of the minister for infrastructure, the Minister of infrastructure, the Minister of Primary infrastructure, the Minister of Primary Industries, infrastructure, the Minister of Primary Industries, the infrastructure, the Minister of Primary Industries, the associate Primary Industries, the associate minister Primary Industries, the associate minister is Primary Industries, the associate minister is appropriate Primary Industries, the associate minister is appropriate better minister is appropriate better placed minister is appropriate better placed to minister is appropriate better placed to answer minister is appropriate better placed to answer that minister is appropriate better placed to answer that but minister is appropriate better placed to answer that but I'm placed to answer that but I'm broadly placed to answer that but I'm broadly aware placed to answer that but I'm broadly aware that placed to answer that but I'm broadly aware that we placed to answer that but I'm broadly aware that we have broadly aware that we have forestation broadly aware that we have forestation programmes broadly aware that we have forestation programmes at broadly aware that we have forestation programmes at work. broadly aware that we have forestation programmes at work. At forestation programmes at work. At the forestation programmes at work. At the moment forestation programmes at work. At the moment on forestation programmes at work. At the moment on the forestation programmes at work. At the moment on the East forestation programmes at work. At the moment on the East Coast forestation programmes at work. At the moment on the East Coast and forestation programmes at work. 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