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Over the past year, the ministers have overseen year, the ministers have overseen the year, the ministers have overseen the first year, the ministers have overseen the first ever year, the ministers have overseen the first ever direct year, the ministers have overseen the first ever direct Government the first ever direct Government investment the first ever direct Government investment in the first ever direct Government investment in emergency the first ever direct Government investment in emergency housing, investment in emergency housing, amounting investment in emergency housing, amounting to investment in emergency housing, amounting to more investment in emergency housing, amounting to more than investment in emergency housing, amounting to more than $300 investment in emergency housing, amounting to more than $300 million, amounting to more than $300 million, supplying amounting to more than $300 million, supplying up amounting to more than $300 million, supplying up to amounting to more than $300 million, supplying up to 8,000 amounting to more than $300 million, supplying up to 8,000 places amounting to more than $300 million, supplying up to 8,000 places for supplying up to 8,000 places for transitional supplying up to 8,000 places for transitional housing. supplying up to 8,000 places for transitional housing. 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Question he has even got on the job. Question No. he has even got on the job. Question No. 3. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: Minister of Finance: How Minister of Finance: How is Minister of Finance: How is the Minister of Finance: How is the Government Minister of Finance: How is the Government helping How is the Government helping councils How is the Government helping councils increase How is the Government helping councils increase housing How is the Government helping councils increase housing supply? 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Right further houses in our fast-growing cities. Right now, further houses in our fast-growing cities. Right now, some further houses in our fast-growing cities. Right now, some councils further houses in our fast-growing cities. Right now, some councils are cities. Right now, some councils are starting cities. Right now, some councils are starting to cities. Right now, some councils are starting to come cities. Right now, some councils are starting to come up cities. Right now, some councils are starting to come up against cities. Right now, some councils are starting to come up against their starting to come up against their borrowing starting to come up against their borrowing limits, starting to come up against their borrowing limits, limiting starting to come up against their borrowing limits, limiting how starting to come up against their borrowing limits, limiting how much borrowing limits, limiting how much extra borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land they borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land they can borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land they can open borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land they can open out borrowing limits, limiting how much extra land they can open out for extra land they can open out for development, extra land they can open out for development, and extra land they can open out for development, and constraining extra land they can open out for development, and constraining their development, and constraining their supply development, and constraining their supply of development, and constraining their supply of housing. development, and constraining their supply of housing. Supported development, and constraining their supply of housing. Supported by development, and constraining their supply of housing. Supported by up supply of housing. Supported by up to supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 million supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 million in supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 million in capital supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 million in capital from supply of housing. Supported by up to $600 million in capital from the to $600 million in capital from the Crown, to $600 million in capital from the Crown, Crown to $600 million in capital from the Crown, Crown Infrastructure to $600 million in capital from the Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use private Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use private capital Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use private capital to Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use private capital to keep Crown, Crown Infrastructure Partners will use private capital to keep the will use private capital to keep the debt will use private capital to keep the debt off will use private capital to keep the debt off councils' will use private capital to keep the debt off councils' books will use private capital to keep the debt off councils' books and will use private capital to keep the debt off councils' books and ensure debt off councils' books and ensure that debt off councils' books and ensure that growth debt off councils' books and ensure that growth pays debt off councils' books and ensure that growth pays for debt off councils' books and ensure that growth pays for growth debt off councils' books and ensure that growth pays for growth in debt off councils' books and ensure that growth pays for growth in our that growth pays for growth in our fastest-growing that growth pays for growth in our fastest-growing cities. that growth pays for growth in our fastest-growing cities. What that growth pays for growth in our fastest-growing cities. What are that growth pays for growth in our fastest-growing cities. What are the fastest-growing cities. What are the first fastest-growing cities. What are the first projects fastest-growing cities. What are the first projects Crown fastest-growing cities. What are the first projects Crown Infrastructure first projects Crown Infrastructure Partners first projects Crown Infrastructure Partners will first projects Crown Infrastructure Partners will assess? first projects Crown Infrastructure Partners will assess? The first projects Crown Infrastructure Partners will assess? The Auckland Partners will assess? The Auckland South Partners will assess? The Auckland South project Partners will assess? The Auckland South project is Partners will assess? The Auckland South project is the Partners will assess? The Auckland South project is the first Partners will assess? The Auckland South project is the first that Partners will assess? The Auckland South project is the first that will South project is the first that will be South project is the first that will be assessed South project is the first that will be assessed as South project is the first that will be assessed as a South project is the first that will be assessed as a possible South project is the first that will be assessed as a possible special be assessed as a possible special purpose be assessed as a possible special purpose vehicle be assessed as a possible special purpose vehicle project. be assessed as a possible special purpose vehicle project. It be assessed as a possible special purpose vehicle project. It forms purpose vehicle project. It forms part purpose vehicle project. It forms part of purpose vehicle project. It forms part of a purpose vehicle project. It forms part of a large, purpose vehicle project. It forms part of a large, $387 purpose vehicle project. It forms part of a large, $387 million part of a large, $387 million infrastructure part of a large, $387 million infrastructure development infrastructure development opportunity infrastructure development opportunity to infrastructure development opportunity to the infrastructure development opportunity to the south infrastructure development opportunity to the south of infrastructure development opportunity to the south of Auckland opportunity to the south of Auckland city, opportunity to the south of Auckland city, including opportunity to the south of Auckland city, including investments opportunity to the south of Auckland city, including investments in opportunity to the south of Auckland city, including investments in water city, including investments in water networks, city, including investments in water networks, new city, including investments in water networks, new train city, including investments in water networks, new train stations, city, including investments in water networks, new train stations, and networks, new train stations, and major networks, new train stations, and major new networks, new train stations, and major new roading networks, new train stations, and major new roading arterial networks, new train stations, and major new roading arterial projects. major new roading arterial projects. If major new roading arterial projects. If successful, major new roading arterial projects. If successful, this major new roading arterial projects. If successful, this will major new roading arterial projects. If successful, this will increase If successful, this will increase the If successful, this will increase the supply If successful, this will increase the supply of If successful, this will increase the supply of new If successful, this will increase the supply of new houses If successful, this will increase the supply of new houses in If successful, this will increase the supply of new houses in that the supply of new houses in that area the supply of new houses in that area by the supply of new houses in that area by around the supply of new houses in that area by around 17,800, the supply of new houses in that area by around 17,800, where the supply of new houses in that area by around 17,800, where the area by around 17,800, where the current area by around 17,800, where the current infrastructure area by around 17,800, where the current infrastructure can area by around 17,800, where the current infrastructure can only current infrastructure can only support current infrastructure can only support 3,000 current infrastructure can only support 3,000 houses. current infrastructure can only support 3,000 houses. Another support 3,000 houses. Another project support 3,000 houses. Another project is support 3,000 houses. Another project is in support 3,000 houses. Another project is in Wainui, support 3,000 houses. Another project is in Wainui, to support 3,000 houses. Another project is in Wainui, to the support 3,000 houses. Another project is in Wainui, to the north project is in Wainui, to the north of project is in Wainui, to the north of Auckland, project is in Wainui, to the north of Auckland, investments project is in Wainui, to the north of Auckland, investments in project is in Wainui, to the north of Auckland, investments in roading of Auckland, investments in roading infrastructure of Auckland, investments in roading infrastructure there of Auckland, investments in roading infrastructure there have of Auckland, investments in roading infrastructure there have the infrastructure there have the capacity infrastructure there have the capacity to infrastructure there have the capacity to left infrastructure there have the capacity to left development infrastructure there have the capacity to left development from capacity to left development from 2,000 capacity to left development from 2,000 houses capacity to left development from 2,000 houses to capacity to left development from 2,000 houses to 5,500 capacity to left development from 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. capacity to left development from 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. Will 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. Will Crown 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. Will Crown Infrastructure 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. Will Crown Infrastructure Partners 2,000 houses to 5,500 houses. Will Crown Infrastructure Partners be Crown Infrastructure Partners be open Crown Infrastructure Partners be open to Crown Infrastructure Partners be open to councils Crown Infrastructure Partners be open to councils around Crown Infrastructure Partners be open to councils around the Crown Infrastructure Partners be open to councils around the country? open to councils around the country? Yes, open to councils around the country? Yes, it open to councils around the country? Yes, it will. open to councils around the country? Yes, it will. The open to councils around the country? Yes, it will. The goal open to councils around the country? Yes, it will. The goal with open to councils around the country? Yes, it will. The goal with Crown Yes, it will. The goal with Crown Infrastructure Yes, it will. The goal with Crown Infrastructure Partners Yes, it will. The goal with Crown Infrastructure Partners is Yes, it will. The goal with Crown Infrastructure Partners is to Infrastructure Partners is to transform Infrastructure Partners is to transform how Infrastructure Partners is to transform how local Infrastructure Partners is to transform how local council transform how local council infrastructure transform how local council infrastructure is transform how local council infrastructure is funded transform how local council infrastructure is funded in infrastructure is funded in high-growth infrastructure is funded in high-growth councils infrastructure is funded in high-growth councils throughout infrastructure is funded in high-growth councils throughout New high-growth councils throughout New Zealand, high-growth councils throughout New Zealand, using high-growth councils throughout New Zealand, using the high-growth councils throughout New Zealand, using the commercial Zealand, using the commercial expertise Zealand, using the commercial expertise and Zealand, using the commercial expertise and experience Zealand, using the commercial expertise and experience that Zealand, using the commercial expertise and experience that Crown expertise and experience that Crown Fibre expertise and experience that Crown Fibre Holdings expertise and experience that Crown Fibre Holdings has expertise and experience that Crown Fibre Holdings has gained expertise and experience that Crown Fibre Holdings has gained through Fibre Holdings has gained through the Fibre Holdings has gained through the successful Fibre Holdings has gained through the successful ultra-fast Fibre Holdings has gained through the successful ultra-fast broadband the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As such, the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As such, it the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As such, it will the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As such, it will be the successful ultra-fast broadband programme. As such, it will be open programme. As such, it will be open to programme. As such, it will be open to all programme. As such, it will be open to all councils programme. As such, it will be open to all councils who programme. As such, it will be open to all councils who put programme. As such, it will be open to all councils who put forward to all councils who put forward high-quality to all councils who put forward high-quality development to all councils who put forward high-quality development proposals, high-quality development proposals, that high-quality development proposals, that fast-track high-quality development proposals, that fast-track the high-quality development proposals, that fast-track the supply high-quality development proposals, that fast-track the supply of high-quality development proposals, that fast-track the supply of new that fast-track the supply of new housing that fast-track the supply of new housing and that fast-track the supply of new housing and supply that fast-track the supply of new housing and supply funding that fast-track the supply of new housing and supply funding over that fast-track the supply of new housing and supply funding over time housing and supply funding over time to housing and supply funding over time to support housing and supply funding over time to support the housing and supply funding over time to support the finance. housing and supply funding over time to support the finance. What housing and supply funding over time to support the finance. What other to support the finance. What other moves to support the finance. What other moves has to support the finance. What other moves has the to support the finance. What other moves has the Government to support the finance. What other moves has the Government made to support the finance. What other moves has the Government made in moves has the Government made in respect moves has the Government made in respect of moves has the Government made in respect of housing moves has the Government made in respect of housing infrastructure? respect of housing infrastructure? Just respect of housing infrastructure? Just over respect of housing infrastructure? Just over two respect of housing infrastructure? Just over two weeks respect of housing infrastructure? Just over two weeks ago, respect of housing infrastructure? Just over two weeks ago, the Just over two weeks ago, the Government Just over two weeks ago, the Government announced Just over two weeks ago, the Government announced the Just over two weeks ago, the Government announced the funding Just over two weeks ago, the Government announced the funding for Government announced the funding for nine Government announced the funding for nine key Government announced the funding for nine key local Government announced the funding for nine key local infrastructure nine key local infrastructure projects nine key local infrastructure projects as nine key local infrastructure projects as part nine key local infrastructure projects as part of nine key local infrastructure projects as part of the nine key local infrastructure projects as part of the $1 nine key local infrastructure projects as part of the $1 billion projects as part of the $1 billion Housing projects as part of the $1 billion Housing Infrastructure projects as part of the $1 billion Housing Infrastructure Fund. projects as part of the $1 billion Housing Infrastructure Fund. The Housing Infrastructure Fund. The interest-free Housing Infrastructure Fund. The interest-free loans Housing Infrastructure Fund. The interest-free loans and Housing Infrastructure Fund. The interest-free loans and advances interest-free loans and advances extended interest-free loans and advances extended to interest-free loans and advances extended to the interest-free loans and advances extended to the fast-growing extended to the fast-growing councils extended to the fast-growing councils of extended to the fast-growing councils of Auckland, extended to the fast-growing councils of Auckland, Hamilton, councils of Auckland, Hamilton, Waikato, councils of Auckland, Hamilton, Waikato, Tauranga, councils of Auckland, Hamilton, Waikato, Tauranga, and councils of Auckland, Hamilton, Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will open Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will open enough Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will open enough land Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will open enough land up Waikato, Tauranga, and Queenstown Lakes will open enough land up to Lakes will open enough land up to build Lakes will open enough land up to build 60,000 Lakes will open enough land up to build 60,000 new Lakes will open enough land up to build 60,000 new houses Lakes will open enough land up to build 60,000 new houses over Lakes will open enough land up to build 60,000 new houses over the build 60,000 new houses over the next build 60,000 new houses over the next ten build 60,000 new houses over the next ten years. build 60,000 new houses over the next ten years. Crown build 60,000 new houses over the next ten years. Crown Infrastructure next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is the next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is the logical next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is the logical next next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is the logical next step next ten years. Crown Infrastructure Partners is the logical next step in Partners is the logical next step in infrastructure Partners is the logical next step in infrastructure funding Partners is the logical next step in infrastructure funding following Partners is the logical next step in infrastructure funding following the infrastructure funding following the Housing infrastructure funding following the Housing Infrastructure infrastructure funding following the Housing Infrastructure Fund. Housing Infrastructure Fund. Question Housing Infrastructure Fund. 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Between 2015 and 2018 the national land 2015 and 2018 the national land programme 2015 and 2018 the national land programme will 2015 and 2018 the national land programme will invest 2015 and 2018 the national land programme will invest approximately programme will invest approximately 118 programme will invest approximately 118 million programme will invest approximately 118 million into programme will invest approximately 118 million into the programme will invest approximately 118 million into the east programme will invest approximately 118 million into the east coast's 118 million into the east coast's transport 118 million into the east coast's transport network 118 million into the east coast's transport network and 118 million into the east coast's transport network and what 118 million into the east coast's transport network and what I 118 million into the east coast's transport network and what I can 118 million into the east coast's transport network and what I can say transport network and what I can say to transport network and what I can say to the transport network and what I can say to the member transport network and what I can say to the member is transport network and what I can say to the member is given transport network and what I can say to the member is given the transport network and what I can say to the member is given the very to the member is given the very large to the member is given the very large capital to the member is given the very large capital investment to the member is given the very large capital investment that to the member is given the very large capital investment that we've large capital investment that we've seen large capital investment that we've seen and large capital investment that we've seen and is large capital investment that we've seen and is coming large capital investment that we've seen and is coming through large capital investment that we've seen and is coming through the large capital investment that we've seen and is coming through the next seen and is coming through the next NLTP seen and is coming through the next NLTP from seen and is coming through the next NLTP from this seen and is coming through the next NLTP from this Government, seen and is coming through the next NLTP from this Government, I seen and is coming through the next NLTP from this Government, I expect NLTP from this Government, I expect there NLTP from this Government, I expect there will NLTP from this Government, I expect there will be NLTP from this Government, I expect there will be additional NLTP from this Government, I expect there will be additional investments there will be additional investments made, there will be additional investments made, both there will be additional investments made, both into there will be additional investments made, both into the there will be additional investments made, both into the east there will be additional investments made, both into the east coast made, both into the east coast generally made, both into the east coast generally and made, both into the east coast generally and also made, both into the east coast generally and also into made, both into the east coast generally and also into State generally and also into State Highway generally and also into State Highway 35 generally and also into State Highway 35 specifically. generally and also into State Highway 35 specifically. Can generally and also into State Highway 35 specifically. Can the Highway 35 specifically. Can the minister Highway 35 specifically. Can the minister explain Highway 35 specifically. Can the minister explain the Highway 35 specifically. Can the minister explain the correlation minister explain the correlation between minister explain the correlation between the minister explain the correlation between the highway minister explain the correlation between the highway number minister explain the correlation between the highway number - minister explain the correlation between the highway number - 35 minister explain the correlation between the highway number - 35 - between the highway number - 35 - and between the highway number - 35 - and the between the highway number - 35 - and the number between the highway number - 35 - and the number of between the highway number - 35 - and the number of years between the highway number - 35 - and the number of years - between the highway number - 35 - and the number of years - 35 between the highway number - 35 - and the number of years - 35 - between the highway number - 35 - and the number of years - 35 - that and the number of years - 35 - that the and the number of years - 35 - that the slip and the number of years - 35 - that the slip south and the number of years - 35 - that the slip south of and the number of years - 35 - that the slip south of Nuraturea and the number of years - 35 - that the slip south of Nuraturea has the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane to the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane to one the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane to one lane the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane to one lane in the slip south of Nuraturea has reduced the lane to one lane in a reduced the lane to one lane in a particularly reduced the lane to one lane in a particularly windy reduced the lane to one lane in a particularly windy stretch reduced the lane to one lane in a particularly windy stretch of reduced the lane to one lane in a particularly windy stretch of road. particularly windy stretch of road. 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The good news is with the strong economy we have, we are able strong economy we have, we are able to strong economy we have, we are able to invest strong economy we have, we are able to invest back strong economy we have, we are able to invest back into strong economy we have, we are able to invest back into these strong economy we have, we are able to invest back into these issues strong economy we have, we are able to invest back into these issues to to invest back into these issues to make to invest back into these issues to make for to invest back into these issues to make for more to invest back into these issues to make for more permanent to invest back into these issues to make for more permanent solutions make for more permanent solutions and make for more permanent solutions and I make for more permanent solutions and I appreciate make for more permanent solutions and I appreciate the make for more permanent solutions and I appreciate the advocacy make for more permanent solutions and I appreciate the advocacy that and I appreciate the advocacy that the and I appreciate the advocacy that the member and I appreciate the advocacy that the member makes. and I appreciate the advocacy that the member makes. 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Question between State Highway 2 and the Motu great ride. Question No. between State Highway 2 and the Motu great ride. Question No. 5. 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It also, at the same time, brings debt down as in new infrastructure. 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Is it correct that the top 10% of earners will gain $400 10% of earners will gain $400 million 10% of earners will gain $400 million a 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year from 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year from the 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year from the tax 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year from the tax cuts 10% of earners will gain $400 million a year from the tax cuts he million a year from the tax cuts he proposed million a year from the tax cuts he proposed in million a year from the tax cuts he proposed in Budget million a year from the tax cuts he proposed in Budget 2017? million a year from the tax cuts he proposed in Budget 2017? The million a year from the tax cuts he proposed in Budget 2017? The tax proposed in Budget 2017? The tax threshold proposed in Budget 2017? The tax threshold adjustments proposed in Budget 2017? The tax threshold adjustments in proposed in Budget 2017? The tax threshold adjustments in the proposed in Budget 2017? 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Uptake of these kinds of technology will help improve technology will help improve technology will help improve technology will help improve productivity and technology will help improve productivity and sustainability technology will help improve productivity and sustainability in productivity and sustainability in the productivity and sustainability in the kumenture productivity and sustainability in the kumenture sector productivity and sustainability in the kumenture sector and productivity and sustainability in the kumenture sector and has productivity and sustainability in the kumenture sector and has the the kumenture sector and has the potential the kumenture sector and has the potential to the kumenture sector and has the potential to drive the kumenture sector and has the potential to drive significant potential to drive significant economic potential to drive significant economic benefits potential to drive significant economic benefits for potential to drive significant economic benefits for the potential to drive significant economic benefits for the entire economic benefits for the entire region. economic benefits for the entire region. -- economic benefits for the entire region. -- horticulture economic benefits for the entire region. -- horticulture sector. 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Zealand now no longer live in houses dependent on a benefit. I Zealand now no longer live in houses dependent on a benefit. I think Zealand now no longer live in houses dependent on a benefit. I think that dependent on a benefit. I think that dependent on a benefit. I think that dependent on a benefit. I think that is a dependent on a benefit. I think that is a luge dependent on a benefit. I think that is a luge success dependent on a benefit. I think that is a luge success for dependent on a benefit. I think that is a luge success for this dependent on a benefit. 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I having to ask for extra assistance? I think having to ask for extra assistance? I think the having to ask for extra assistance? I think the member having to ask for extra assistance? I think the member forgets having to ask for extra assistance? I think the member forgets that having to ask for extra assistance? I think the member forgets that this I think the member forgets that this Government I think the member forgets that this Government was I think the member forgets that this Government was the I think the member forgets that this Government was the first I think the member forgets that this Government was the first Government Government was the first Government in Government was the first Government in over Government was the first Government in over 40 Government was the first Government in over 40 years Government was the first Government in over 40 years to Government was the first Government in over 40 years to raise Government was the first Government in over 40 years to raise the Government was the first Government in over 40 years to raise the amount in over 40 years to raise the amount of in over 40 years to raise the amount of moneys in over 40 years to raise the amount of moneys paid in over 40 years to raise the amount of moneys paid to in over 40 years to raise the amount of moneys paid to beneficiaries. in over 40 years to raise the amount of moneys paid to beneficiaries. 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But there have to be some accountabilities when recomply. But there have to be some accountabilities when you recomply. But there have to be some accountabilities when you are recomply. But there have to be some accountabilities when you are using accountabilities when you are using accountabilities when you are using accountabilities when you are using - spending accountabilities when you are using - spending taxpayers' accountabilities when you are using - spending taxpayers' money. - spending taxpayers' money. accountabilities - spending taxpayers' money. Supplementary question. Why - spending taxpayers' money. Supplementary question. Why does - spending taxpayers' money. Supplementary question. Why does the Supplementary question. Why does the Supplementary question. Why does the Supplementary question. Why does the minister believe Supplementary question. Why does the minister believe that Supplementary question. Why does the minister believe that it Supplementary question. 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I spoke with the local communities in Canterbury and Otago. I spoke with the local mayors communities in Canterbury and Otago. I spoke with the local mayors in I spoke with the local mayors in these I spoke with the local mayors in these regions I spoke with the local mayors in these regions and I spoke with the local mayors in these regions and the I spoke with the local mayors in these regions and the focus I spoke with the local mayors in these regions and the focus now I spoke with the local mayors in these regions and the focus now is these regions and the focus now is turning these regions and the focus now is turning from these regions and the focus now is turning from response these regions and the focus now is turning from response to these regions and the focus now is turning from response to recovery. these regions and the focus now is turning from response to recovery. I turning from response to recovery. I want turning from response to recovery. I want to turning from response to recovery. I want to thank turning from response to recovery. I want to thank the turning from response to recovery. I want to thank the tireless turning from response to recovery. I want to thank the tireless efforts want to thank the tireless efforts of want to thank the tireless efforts of civil want to thank the tireless efforts of civil defence want to thank the tireless efforts of civil defence and want to thank the tireless efforts of civil defence and council want to thank the tireless efforts of civil defence and council staff of civil defence and council staff and of civil defence and council staff and emergency of civil defence and council staff and emergency services of civil defence and council staff and emergency services volunteers, and emergency services volunteers, life and emergency services volunteers, life line, and emergency services volunteers, life line, utilities and emergency services volunteers, life line, utilities and and emergency services volunteers, life line, utilities and a and emergency services volunteers, life line, utilities and a host and emergency services volunteers, life line, utilities and a host of life line, utilities and a host of other life line, utilities and a host of other agencies life line, utilities and a host of other agencies like life line, utilities and a host of other agencies like the life line, utilities and a host of other agencies like the NZ life line, utilities and a host of other agencies like the NZ Army life line, utilities and a host of other agencies like the NZ Army who other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to a other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to a number other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to a number of other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to a number of local other agencies like the NZ Army who contributed to a number of local and contributed to a number of local and regional contributed to a number of local and regional responses. contributed to a number of local and regional responses. 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Although local states of emergencies are affected areas? 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Farmers public are urged to be cautious and take care. Farmers are public are urged to be cautious and take care. Farmers are encouraged public are urged to be cautious and take care. Farmers are encouraged to take care. Farmers are encouraged to make take care. Farmers are encouraged to make contact take care. Farmers are encouraged to make contact for take care. Farmers are encouraged to make contact for stock take care. Farmers are encouraged to make contact for stock feed take care. Farmers are encouraged to make contact for stock feed to make contact for stock feed to Federated make contact for stock feed to Federated Farmers, make contact for stock feed to Federated Farmers, 0800 make contact for stock feed to Federated Farmers, 0800 farming make contact for stock feed to Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and the Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and the Government Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and the Government stands Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and the Government stands ready Federated Farmers, 0800 farming and the Government stands ready to the Government stands ready to provide the Government stands ready to provide support the Government stands ready to provide support where the Government stands ready to provide support where it the Government stands ready to provide support where it is the Government stands ready to provide support where it is needed provide support where it is needed and provide support where it is needed and financial provide support where it is needed and financial assistance provide support where it is needed and financial assistance is and financial assistance is available and financial assistance is available to and financial assistance is available to local and financial assistance is available to local authorities and financial assistance is available to local authorities that available to local authorities that available available to local authorities that have been affected. 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