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Amen. No No petitions No petitions have No petitions have been No petitions have been delivered No petitions have been delivered to No petitions have been delivered to the No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for No petitions have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. A A Paper A Paper has A Paper has been A Paper has been delivered A Paper has been delivered for A Paper has been delivered for presentation. presentation. Ministry presentation. Ministry for presentation. Ministry for Pacific presentation. Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Strategic Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Strategic Intentions Ministry for Pacific Peoples, Strategic Intentions 2017-2020. Strategic Intentions 2017-2020. I Strategic Intentions 2017-2020. I present Strategic Intentions 2017-2020. I present the Strategic Intentions 2017-2020. 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No No Bills No Bills have No Bills have been No Bills have been introduced. No Bills have been introduced. The No Bills have been introduced. The House No Bills have been introduced. The House comes No Bills have been introduced. The House comes to No Bills have been introduced. The House comes to questions No Bills have been introduced. The House comes to questions for The House comes to questions for oral The House comes to questions for oral answer. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does he My question is to the Prime Minister: Does he stand Minister: Does he stand by Minister: Does he stand by all Minister: Does he stand by all his Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's Minister: Does he stand by all his Government's policies? Yes, Yes, I Yes, I do, Yes, I do, and Yes, I do, and particularly Yes, I do, and particularly the Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Package Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Package and Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Package and I Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Package and I want Yes, I do, and particularly the Family Incomes Package and I want to Family Incomes Package and I want to note Family Incomes Package and I want to note with Family Incomes Package and I want to note with appreciation Family Incomes Package and I want to note with appreciation the Family Incomes Package and I want to note with appreciation the Greens' note with appreciation the Greens' support note with appreciation the Greens' support for note with appreciation the Greens' support for the note with appreciation the Greens' support for the Family support for the Family Incomes support for the Family support for the Family Incomes Package because support for the Family Incomes Package because on support for the Family Incomes Package because on 1 support for the Family Incomes Package because on 1 April support for the Family Incomes Package because on 1 April next support for the Family Incomes Package because on 1 April next year Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 million Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 million families Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 million families will Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 million families will be, Package because on 1 April next year 1.3 million families will be, on 1.3 million families will be, on average, 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a week 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a week better 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a week better off 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a week better off and 1.3 million families will be, on average, $26 a week better off and a average, $26 a week better off and a average, $26 a week better off and a average, $26 a week better off and a small number average, $26 a week better off and a small number with average, $26 a week better off and a small number with high average, $26 a week better off and a small number with high housing average, $26 a week better off and a small number with high housing costs small number with high housing costs will small number with high housing costs will be small number with high housing costs will be over small number with high housing costs will be over $100 small number with high housing costs will be over $100 a small number with high housing costs will be over $100 a week small number with high housing costs will be over $100 a week better small number with high housing costs will be over $100 a week better off. will be over $100 a week better off. . will be over $100 a week better off. . 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What I can say to the member is that What I can say to the member is that we What I can say to the member is that we welcome What I can say to the member is that we welcome the What I can say to the member is that we welcome the Greens' What I can say to the member is that we welcome the Greens' support What I can say to the member is that we welcome the Greens' support for we welcome the Greens' support for Predator we welcome the Greens' support for Predator Free we welcome the Greens' support for Predator Free 2050 we welcome the Greens' support for Predator Free 2050 policy we welcome the Greens' support for Predator Free 2050 policy which we welcome the Greens' support for Predator Free 2050 policy which will Predator Free 2050 policy which will Predator Free 2050 policy which will Predator Free 2050 policy which will engage communities Predator Free 2050 policy which will engage communities all Predator Free 2050 policy which will engage communities all around engage communities all around the engage communities all around engage communities all around the country, as engage communities all around the country, as it engage communities all around the country, as it is engage communities all around the country, as it is now, engage communities all around the country, as it is now, in engage communities all around the country, as it is now, in efforts engage communities all around the country, as it is now, in efforts to country, as it is now, in efforts to reduce country, as it is now, in efforts to engage country, as it is now, in efforts to reduce our predators country, as it is now, in efforts to reduce our predators and country, as it is now, in efforts to reduce our predators and therefore reduce our predators and therefore protect reduce our predators and therefore protect our reduce our predators and therefore protect our threatened reduce our predators and therefore protect our threatened species protect our threatened species of protect our threatened species protect our threatened species of birds. 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I seek leave to table the Minister of Conservation's note to Minister of Conservation's note to the Minister of Conservation's note to the draft Minister of Conservation's note to the draft Threatened Minister of Conservation's note to the draft Threatened Species the draft Threatened Species Strategy the draft Threatened Species Strategy where the draft Threatened Species Strategy where she the draft Threatened Species Strategy where she plans the draft Threatened Species Strategy where she plans to the draft Threatened Species Strategy where she plans to protect Strategy where she plans to protect only Strategy where she plans to protect only 600 Strategy where she plans to protect only 600 of Strategy where she plans to protect only 600 of the Strategy where she plans to protect only 600 of the 3,000 Strategy where she plans to protect only 600 of the 3,000 threatened only 600 of the 3,000 threatened only 600 of the 3,000 threatened only 600 of the 3,000 threatened species in only 600 of the 3,000 threatened species in New only 600 of the 3,000 threatened species in New Zealand. only 600 of the 3,000 threatened species in New Zealand. Leave only 600 of the 3,000 threatened species in New Zealand. Leave is species in New Zealand. Leave is species in New Zealand. Leave is species in New Zealand. Leave is sought to species in New Zealand. Leave is sought to table species in New Zealand. Leave is sought to table that species in New Zealand. Leave is sought to table that particular sought to table that particular note. sought to table that particular note. Is sought to table that particular note. Is there sought to table that particular note. Is there any sought to table that particular note. Is there any objection sought to table that particular note. Is there any objection to sought to table that particular note. Is there any objection to it note. Is there any objection to it note. Is there any objection to it note. Is there any objection to it being tabled? note. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There note. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is note. Is there any objection to it being tabled? 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Was Speaker. Order! I need to hear it quite clearly. Was there Speaker. Order! I need to hear it quite clearly. Was there any quite clearly. Was there any objection. quite clearly. Was there any objection. There quite clearly. Was there any objection. There was quite clearly. Was there any objection. There was objection objection. There was objection objection. There was objection objection. There was objection raised, it objection. There was objection raised, it cannot objection. There was objection raised, it cannot be objection. There was objection raised, it cannot be tabled. raised, it cannot be tabled. Supplementary raised, it cannot be tabled. Supplementary question. raised, it cannot be tabled. Supplementary question. Thank raised, it cannot be tabled. Supplementary question. Thank you, Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why Supplementary question. Thank you, Mr Speaker. 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Why is the battle for our birds pest control campaign our birds pest control campaign being our birds pest control campaign being fought our birds pest control campaign being fought in our birds pest control campaign being fought in only our birds pest control campaign being fought in only 21% our birds pest control campaign being fought in only 21% of our birds pest control campaign being fought in only 21% of New being fought in only 21% of New being fought in only 21% of New being fought in only 21% of New Zealand's forests. being fought in only 21% of New Zealand's forests. How being fought in only 21% of New Zealand's forests. How can being fought in only 21% of New Zealand's forests. How can you being fought in only 21% of New Zealand's forests. How can you fight Zealand's forests. How can you fight Zealand's forests. How can you fight Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in only Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in only one Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in only one fifth Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in only one fifth of Zealand's forests. How can you fight a war in only one fifth of our a war in only one fifth of our a war in only one fifth of our a war in only one fifth of our forests? The a war in only one fifth of our forests? The battle a war in only one fifth of our forests? The battle for a war in only one fifth of our forests? The battle for our a war in only one fifth of our forests? The battle for our Birds forests? The battle for our Birds was forests? The battle for our Birds was a forests? The battle for our Birds was a large forests? The battle for our Birds was a large investment forests? The battle for our Birds was a large investment in forests? The battle for our Birds was a large investment in the forests? 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Why of our threatened species supplementary question. Why has of our threatened species supplementary question. Why has the supplementary question. Why has the supplementary supplementary question. Why has the Dept of Conservation supplementary question. Why has the Dept of Conservation lost supplementary question. Why has the Dept of Conservation lost around supplementary question. Why has the Dept of Conservation lost around 200 Dept of Conservation lost around 200 Dept of Conservation lost around 200 Dept of Conservation lost around 200 frontline rangers Dept of Conservation lost around 200 frontline rangers under Dept of Conservation lost around 200 frontline rangers under his frontline rangers under his Government's frontline rangers under his Government's watch, frontline rangers under his Government's watch, had frontline rangers under his Government's watch, had hundreds frontline rangers under his Government's watch, had hundreds of Government's watch, had hundreds of millions Government's watch, had hundreds of millions of Government's watch, had hundreds of millions of dollars Government's watch, had hundreds of millions of dollars cut Government's watch, had hundreds of millions of dollars cut from Government's watch, had hundreds of millions of dollars cut from its millions of dollars cut from its baseline millions of dollars cut from its baseline Budget millions of dollars cut from its baseline Budget or millions of dollars cut from its baseline Budget or been millions of dollars cut from its baseline Budget or been forced millions of dollars cut from its baseline Budget or been forced to baseline Budget or been forced to baseline Budget or been forced to baseline Budget or been forced to close five baseline Budget or been forced to close five bases baseline Budget or been forced to close five bases and baseline Budget or been forced to close five bases and three close five bases and three field close five bases and three close five bases and three field centres? Simply close five bases and three field centres? Simply don't close five bases and three field centres? Simply don't agree close five bases and three field centres? Simply don't agree with close five bases and three field centres? Simply don't agree with the centres? Simply don't agree with the member's centres? Simply don't agree with the member's descriptions centres? Simply don't agree with the member's descriptions with centres? Simply don't agree with the member's descriptions with what centres? Simply don't agree with the member's descriptions with what is member's descriptions with what is happening member's descriptions with what is happening with member's descriptions with what is happening with the member's descriptions with what is happening with the Dept member's descriptions with what is happening with the Dept of happening with the Dept of Conservation, happening with the Dept of Conservation, in happening with the Dept of Conservation, in particular happening with the Dept of Conservation, in particular the Conservation, in particular the allegation Conservation, in particular the allegation of Conservation, in particular the allegation of large-scale Conservation, in particular the allegation of large-scale funding allegation of large-scale funding reductions. allegation of large-scale funding reductions. That allegation of large-scale funding reductions. That is allegation of large-scale funding reductions. That is simply allegation of large-scale funding reductions. That is simply not allegation of large-scale funding reductions. That is simply not true. reductions. That is simply not true. The reductions. That is simply not true. The Dept reductions. That is simply not true. The Dept of reductions. That is simply not true. The Dept of Conservation reductions. That is simply not true. 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That has effectively achieving those things. That has meant effectively achieving those things. That has meant some effectively achieving those things. That has meant some reorganisation That has meant some reorganisation That has meant some reorganisation That has meant some reorganisation on the That has meant some reorganisation on the way That has meant some reorganisation on the way through That has meant some reorganisation on the way through as That has meant some reorganisation on the way through as you That has meant some reorganisation on the way through as you would on the way through as you would on the way through as you would on the way through as you would expect if on the way through as you would expect if you on the way through as you would expect if you were on the way through as you would expect if you were trying on the way through as you would expect if you were trying to on the way through as you would expect if you were trying to do on the way through as you would expect if you were trying to do the expect if you were trying to do the job expect if you were trying to do the job better expect if you were trying to do the job better and expect if you were trying to do the job better and better expect if you were trying to do the job better and better all expect if you were trying to do the job better and better all the expect if you were trying to do the job better and better all the time. job better and better all the time. Supplementary job better and better all the time. Supplementary question. job better and better all the time. Supplementary question. Is job better and better all the time. Supplementary question. Is this Supplementary question. Is this Government Supplementary question. Is this Government open Supplementary question. Is this Government open to Supplementary question. Is this Government open to Acts Supplementary question. Is this Government open to Acts Sanctuary Government open to Acts Sanctuary Trust Government open to Acts Sanctuary Trust Policy Government open to Acts Sanctuary Trust Policy which Government open to Acts Sanctuary Trust Policy which would Government open to Acts Sanctuary Trust Policy which would bring Trust Policy which would bring community-driven, Trust Policy which would bring community-driven, fenced, community-driven, fenced, predator-proof community-driven, fenced, predator-proof bird community-driven, fenced, predator-proof bird sanctuaries community-driven, fenced, predator-proof bird sanctuaries to predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every town predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every town and predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every town and suburb predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every town and suburb in predator-proof bird sanctuaries to every town and suburb in this every town and suburb in this every town and suburb in this every town and suburb in this country? 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Is it harder for a young person to buy a house today than it person to buy a house today than it person to buy a house today than it person to buy a house today than it was a person to buy a house today than it was a generation person to buy a house today than it was a generation ago? person to buy a house today than it was a generation ago? We person to buy a house today than it was a generation ago? We can person to buy a house today than it was a generation ago? We can argue was a generation ago? We can argue that was a generation ago? We can argue that probably was a generation ago? We can argue that probably both was a generation ago? We can argue that probably both sides was a generation ago? We can argue that probably both sides of was a generation ago? 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A were twice what they are today. A 10% were twice what they are today. A 10% first were twice what they are today. A 10% first mortgage were twice what they are today. A 10% first mortgage rates. were twice what they are today. A 10% first mortgage rates. Back were twice what they are today. A 10% first mortgage rates. Back in 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the early 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the early 80s 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the early 80s interest 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the early 80s interest rates 10% first mortgage rates. Back in the early 80s interest rates were the early 80s interest rates were 20% the early 80s interest rates were 20% first the early 80s interest rates were 20% first mortgage the early 80s interest rates were 20% first mortgage rates. the early 80s interest rates were 20% first mortgage rates. So the early 80s interest rates were 20% first mortgage rates. So it the early 80s interest rates were 20% first mortgage rates. So it has 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always been 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always been difficult 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always been difficult for 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always been difficult for first 20% first mortgage rates. So it has always been difficult for first home always been difficult for first home buyers. always been difficult for first home buyers. At the moment always been difficult for first home buyers. At the moment is always been difficult for first home buyers. At the moment is challenge buyers. At the moment is challenge buyers. At the moment is challenge buyers. At the moment is challenge is not buyers. At the moment is challenge is not so buyers. At the moment is challenge is not so much buyers. At the moment is challenge is not so much servicing buyers. At the moment is challenge is not so much servicing the buyers. At the moment is challenge is not so much servicing the debt is not so much servicing the debt but is not so much servicing the debt but it is getting is not so much servicing the debt but it is getting a is not so much servicing the debt but it is getting a deposit is not so much servicing the debt but it is getting a deposit and is not so much servicing the debt but it is getting a deposit and that but it is getting a deposit and that is but it is getting a deposit and that is why but it is getting a deposit and that is why we but it is getting a deposit and that is why we have but it is getting a deposit and that is why we have the but it is getting a deposit and that is why we have the HomeStart but it is getting a deposit and that is why we have the HomeStart scheme is why we have the HomeStart scheme and is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up to is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up to 90,000 is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up to 90,000 New is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up to 90,000 New Zealanders is why we have the HomeStart scheme and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able to and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able to take and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able to take advantage and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able to take advantage of and up to 90,000 New Zealanders will be able to take advantage of that. be able to take advantage of that. Supplementary be able to take advantage of that. Supplementary question. be able to take advantage of that. Supplementary question. How be able to take advantage of that. Supplementary question. How has be able to take advantage of that. Supplementary question. How has this Supplementary question. How has this Government's Supplementary question. How has this Government's approach Supplementary question. How has this Government's approach to Supplementary question. How has this Government's approach to the Supplementary question. How has this Government's approach to the housing Government's approach to the housing market Government's approach to the housing market been Government's approach to the housing market been affected Government's approach to the housing market been affected by Government's approach to the housing market been affected by the Government's approach to the housing market been affected by the policy market been affected by the policy settings market been affected by the policy settings it market been affected by the policy settings it inherit market been affected by the policy settings it inherit inherited? market been affected by the policy settings it inherit inherited? The settings it inherit inherited? The main settings it inherit inherited? The main change settings it inherit inherited? The main change that settings it inherit inherited? The main change that has settings it inherit inherited? The main change that has been settings it inherit inherited? The main change that has been made settings it inherit inherited? The main change that has been made is main change that has been made is actually main change that has been made is actually in main change that has been made is actually in the main change that has been made is actually in the planning main change that has been made is actually in the planning laws actually in the planning laws because actually in the planning laws because the actually in the planning laws because the policy actually in the planning laws because the policy settings actually in the planning laws because the policy settings we because the policy settings we inherited because the policy settings we inherited were because the policy settings we inherited were councils because the policy settings we inherited were councils and inherited were councils and legislation inherited were councils and legislation which inherited were councils and legislation which was inherited were councils and legislation which was designed inherited were councils and legislation which was designed to legislation which was designed to stop legislation which was designed to stop our legislation which was designed to stop our cities legislation which was designed to stop our cities growing. legislation which was designed to stop our cities growing. That legislation which was designed to stop our cities growing. That has stop our cities growing. That has now stop our cities growing. That has now changed. stop our cities growing. That has now changed. All stop our cities growing. That has now changed. All our stop our cities growing. That has now changed. All our councils stop our cities growing. That has now changed. All our councils are now changed. All our councils are trying now changed. All our councils are trying to now changed. All our councils are trying to accommodate now changed. All our councils are trying to accommodate growth now changed. All our councils are trying to accommodate growth and trying to accommodate growth and that trying to accommodate growth and that is trying to accommodate growth and that is why trying to accommodate growth and that is why we trying to accommodate growth and that is why we have trying to accommodate growth and that is why we have record trying to accommodate growth and that is why we have record levels trying to accommodate growth and that is why we have record levels of that is why we have record levels of housing that is why we have record levels of housing construction that is why we have record levels of housing construction and that is why we have record levels of housing construction and we that is why we have record levels of housing construction and we expect housing construction and we expect that housing construction and we expect that to housing construction and we expect that to continue housing construction and we expect that to continue for housing construction and we expect that to continue for several housing construction and we expect that to continue for several years. that to continue for several years. that to continue for several years. that to continue for several years. Supplementary question. that to continue for several years. Supplementary question. How that to continue for several years. Supplementary question. How can that to continue for several years. Supplementary question. How can it Supplementary question. How can it be Supplementary question. How can it be easier Supplementary question. How can it be easier for Supplementary question. How can it be easier for this Supplementary question. How can it be easier for this generation Supplementary question. How can it be easier for this generation of be easier for this generation of first be easier for this generation of first home be easier for this generation of first home buyers be easier for this generation of first home buyers when be easier for this generation of first home buyers when an be easier for this generation of first home buyers when an Auckland first home buyers when an Auckland first home buyers when an Auckland first home buyers when an Auckland homebuyer now, first home buyers when an Auckland homebuyer now, on first home buyers when an Auckland homebuyer now, on average, first home buyers when an Auckland homebuyer now, on average, needs first home buyers when an Auckland homebuyer now, on average, needs to homebuyer now, on average, needs to save homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a $200,000 homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a $200,000 deposit homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a $200,000 deposit to homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a $200,000 deposit to buy homebuyer now, on average, needs to save a $200,000 deposit to buy a save a $200,000 deposit to buy a save a $200,000 deposit to buy a save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't say save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't say it save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't say it was save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't say it was easier, save a $200,000 deposit to buy a home? I didn't say it was easier, I home? I didn't say it was easier, I said home? I didn't say it was easier, I said it's home? I didn't say it was easier, I said it's always home? I didn't say it was easier, I said it's always been home? I didn't say it was easier, I said it's always been difficult. said it's always been difficult. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Well, <INTERRUPTION> Well, it <INTERRUPTION> Well, it always <INTERRUPTION> Well, it always has <INTERRUPTION> Well, it always has been. <INTERRUPTION> Well, it always has been. Because Well, it always has been. Because when Well, it always has been. Because when interest Well, it always has been. Because when interest rates Well, it always has been. Because when interest rates were Well, it always has been. Because when interest rates were 18% Well, it always has been. Because when interest rates were 18% - Well, it always has been. Because when interest rates were 18% - when when interest rates were 18% - when when interest rates were 18% - when when interest rates were 18% - when interest rates when interest rates were 18% - when interest rates were when interest rates were 18% - when interest rates were 10% when interest rates were 18% - when interest rates were 10% under when interest rates were 18% - when interest rates were 10% under the interest rates were 10% under the Labour interest rates were 10% under the Labour Government interest rates were 10% under the Labour Government it interest rates were 10% under the Labour Government it was interest rates were 10% under the Labour Government it was hard interest rates were 10% under the Labour Government it was hard to Labour Government it was hard to Labour Government it was hard to Labour Government it was hard to service that Labour Government it was hard to service that size Labour Government it was hard to service that size of Labour Government it was hard to service that size of debt. Labour Government it was hard to service that size of debt. In Labour Government it was hard to service that size of debt. In fact, service that size of debt. In fact, a service that size of debt. In fact, a lot service that size of debt. In fact, a lot of service that size of debt. In fact, a lot of households service that size of debt. In fact, a lot of households simply service that size of debt. In fact, a lot of households simply couldn't a lot of households simply couldn't afford a lot of households simply couldn't afford to a lot of households simply couldn't afford to borrow a lot of households simply couldn't afford to borrow the a lot of households simply couldn't afford to borrow the amount a lot of households simply couldn't afford to borrow the amount of a lot of households simply couldn't afford to borrow the amount of money afford to borrow the amount of money they afford to borrow the amount of money afford afford to borrow the amount of money they do if afford to borrow the amount of money they do if they afford to borrow the amount of money they do if they were afford to borrow the amount of money they do if they were on afford to borrow the amount of money they do if they were on Labour's they do if they were on Labour's interest they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. That they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. That is they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. That is why they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. That is why we they do if they were on Labour's interest rates. That is why we have interest rates. That is why we have interest rates. That is why we have interest rates. That is why we have HomeStart in interest rates. That is why we have HomeStart in place interest rates. That is why we have HomeStart in place to interest rates. That is why we have HomeStart in place to assist interest rates. That is why we have HomeStart in place to assist them HomeStart in place to assist them with HomeStart in place to assist them with getting HomeStart in place to assist them with getting the HomeStart in place to assist them with getting the deposit HomeStart in place to assist them with getting the deposit and HomeStart in place to assist them with getting the deposit and also with getting the deposit and also with getting the deposit and also with getting the deposit and also the welcome with getting the deposit and also the welcome home with getting the deposit and also the welcome home loan with getting the deposit and also the welcome home loan guarantee. the welcome home loan guarantee. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question. Given Order! Supplementary question. Given he Order! Supplementary question. Given he himself Order! Supplementary question. 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Zealand will build Dunedin, which is our fourth or fifth largest city. In our fourth or fifth largest city. In the our fourth or fifth largest city. In the next our fourth or fifth largest city. In the next three our fourth or fifth largest city. In the next three years our fourth or fifth largest city. In the next three years New our fourth or fifth largest city. In the next three years New Zealand our fourth or fifth largest city. In will our fourth or fifth largest city. In will build Dunedin, and our fourth or fifth largest city. In will build Dunedin, and that our fourth or fifth largest city. In will build Dunedin, and that is our fourth or fifth largest city. In will build Dunedin, and that is in will build Dunedin, and that is in response will build Dunedin, and that is in response to will build Dunedin, and that is in response to a will build Dunedin, and that is in response to a strong will build Dunedin, and that is in response to a strong economy, will build Dunedin, and that is in response to a strong economy, strong response to a strong economy, strong population response to a strong economy, strong population growth, response to a strong economy, strong population growth, Kiwis response to a strong economy, strong population growth, Kiwis staying population growth, Kiwis staying home population growth, Kiwis staying home and population growth, Kiwis staying home and of population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it is population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it is a population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it is a bit population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it is a bit of population growth, Kiwis staying home and of course it is a bit of a home and of course it is a bit of a home and of course it is a bit of a home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but we home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but we are home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but we are up home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but we are up to home and of course it is a bit of a challenge but we are up to the challenge but we are up to the dealing challenge but we are up to the dealing with challenge but we are up to the dealing with these challenge but we are up to the dealing with these challenges challenge but we are up to the dealing with these challenges of dealing with these challenges of success dealing with these challenges of success whereas dealing with these challenges of success whereas our dealing with these challenges of success whereas our opponents dealing with these challenges of success whereas our opponents just success whereas our opponents just success success whereas our opponents just want success whereas our opponents just want to shut the success whereas our opponents just want to shut the country success whereas our opponents just want to shut the country down success whereas our opponents just want to shut the country down to want to shut the country down to want to shut the country down to want to shut the country down to make it want to shut the country down to make it easier want to shut the country down to make it easier for want to shut the country down to make it easier for them. make it easier for them. Supplementary make it easier for them. Supplementary question. make it easier for them. Supplementary question. Can make it easier for them. Supplementary question. Can the make it easier for them. Supplementary question. Can the PM Supplementary question. Can the PM Supplementary question. Can the PM Supplementary question. Can the PM explain whether Supplementary question. Can the PM explain whether it Supplementary question. Can the PM explain whether it is Supplementary question. Can the PM explain whether it is easier or explain whether it is easier or harder explain whether it is easier or harder to explain whether it is easier or harder to - explain whether it is easier or harder to - for explain whether it is easier or harder to - for Maori explain whether it is easier or harder to - for Maori to explain whether it is easier or harder to - for Maori to get explain whether it is easier or harder to - for Maori to get a explain whether it is easier or harder to - for Maori to get a home harder to - for Maori to get a home mortgage harder to - for Maori to get a home mortgage since harder to - for Maori to get a home mortgage since Labour harder to - for Maori to get a home mortgage since Labour dismantled mortgage since Labour dismantled Maori mortgage since Labour dismantled Maori Affairs mortgage since Labour dismantled Maori Affairs and mortgage since Labour dismantled Maori Affairs and mainstreamed Maori Affairs and mainstreamed housing Maori Affairs and mainstreamed housing into Maori Affairs and mainstreamed housing into Housing Maori Affairs and mainstreamed housing into Housing New Maori Affairs and mainstreamed housing into Housing New Zealand's housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? Order! housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? Order! No. housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? Order! No. There housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? Order! No. There is housing into Housing New Zealand's hands? Order! No. There is no... hands? Order! No. There is no... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! There <INTERRUPTION> Order! There is <INTERRUPTION> Order! There is no <INTERRUPTION> Order! There is no prime <INTERRUPTION> Order! There is no prime ministerial Order! There is no prime ministerial responsibility Order! There is no prime ministerial responsibility for Order! There is no prime ministerial responsibility for another Order! There is no prime ministerial responsibility for another party's responsibility for another party's policies responsibility for another party's policies in responsibility for another party's policies in the responsibility for another party's policies in the past. responsibility for another party's policies in the past. If responsibility for another party's policies in the past. If this policies in the past. If this Government policies in the past. If this Government is policies in the past. If this Government is indeed policies in the past. If this Government is indeed building policies in the past. If this Government is indeed building more Government is indeed building more houses Government is indeed building more houses than Government is indeed building more houses than ever, Government is indeed building more houses than ever, why Government is indeed building more houses than ever, why is Government is indeed building more houses than ever, why is there Government is indeed building more houses than ever, why is there a houses than ever, why is there a shortfall houses than ever, why is there a shortfall of houses than ever, why is there a shortfall of at houses than ever, why is there a shortfall of at least houses than ever, why is there a shortfall of at least 40,000 houses than ever, why is there a shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, particularly shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, particularly in shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, particularly in Auckland, shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, particularly in Auckland, that shortfall of at least 40,000 homes, particularly in Auckland, that is particularly in Auckland, that is particularly in Auckland, that is particularly in Auckland, that is growing by particularly in Auckland, that is growing by the particularly in Auckland, that is growing by the day? particularly in Auckland, that is growing by the day? In particularly in Auckland, that is growing by the day? In the particularly in Auckland, that is growing by the day? In the first growing by the day? In the first place, growing by the day? In the first place, we growing by the day? In the first place, we don't growing by the day? In the first place, we don't accept growing by the day? In the first place, we don't accept those place, we don't accept those estimates place, we don't accept those estimates about place, we don't accept those estimates about shortfalls. estimates about shortfalls. Secondly, estimates about shortfalls. Secondly, the estimates about shortfalls. Secondly, the Auckland estimates about shortfalls. Secondly, the Auckland Council... Secondly, the Auckland Council... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! I <INTERRUPTION> Order! I gave <INTERRUPTION> Order! I gave a <INTERRUPTION> Order! I gave a warning <INTERRUPTION> Order! I gave a warning earlier Order! 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Maori My question is to the Minister for Maori Development: My question is to the Minister for Maori Development: Does for Maori Development: Does he for Maori Development: Does he believe for Maori Development: Does he believe his for Maori Development: Does he believe his Maori for Maori Development: Does he believe his Maori Housing for Maori Development: Does he believe his Maori Housing Network he believe his Maori Housing Network has he believe his Maori Housing Network has received he believe his Maori Housing Network has received enough has received enough funding has received enough funding to has received enough funding to succeed? <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> How How can How can he How can he say How can he say that How can he say that this How can he say that this National How can he say that this National Government How can he say that this National Government is How can he say that this National Government is delivering How can he say that this National Government is delivering for How can he say that this National Government is delivering for Maori, Government is delivering for Maori, when Government is delivering for Maori, when the Government is delivering for Maori, when the Maori Government is delivering for Maori, when the Maori Housing Government is delivering for Maori, when the Maori Housing Network Government is delivering for Maori, when the Maori Housing Network has when the Maori Housing Network has only when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered 11 when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered 11 houses when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered 11 houses to when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered 11 houses to a when the Maori Housing Network has only delivered 11 houses to a code only delivered 11 houses to a code of only delivered 11 houses to a code of compliance only delivered 11 houses to a code of compliance level? only delivered 11 houses to a code of compliance level? <INTERRUPTION> of compliance level? <INTERRUPTION> <SPEAKS of compliance level? <INTERRUPTION> <SPEAKS TE of compliance level? <INTERRUPTION> <SPEAKS TE REO of compliance level? <INTERRUPTION> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> So So when So when there So when there are So when there are 14,000 So when there are 14,000 homeless So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how can So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how can he So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how can he possibly So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how can he possibly say So when there are 14,000 homeless Maori, how can he possibly say that Maori, how can he possibly say that that Maori, how can he possibly say that that is Maori, how can he possibly say that that is sufficient? that is sufficient? <SPEAKS that is sufficient? <SPEAKS TE that is sufficient? <SPEAKS TE REO that is sufficient? <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> Does Does he Does he truly Does he truly believe Does he truly believe that Does he truly believe that this Does he truly believe that this National-led Does he truly believe that this National-led Government, Does he truly believe that this National-led Government, which Does he truly believe that this National-led Government, which he Does he truly believe that this National-led Government, which he is National-led Government, which he is a National-led Government, which he is a part National-led Government, which he is a part of, National-led Government, which he is a part of, has National-led Government, which he is a part of, has delivered National-led Government, which he is a part of, has delivered and National-led Government, which he is a part of, has delivered and will a part of, has delivered and will deliver a part of, has delivered and will deliver what's a part of, has delivered and will deliver what's needed a part of, has delivered and will deliver what's needed to a part of, has delivered and will deliver what's needed to end a part of, has delivered and will deliver what's needed to end Maori deliver what's needed to end Maori homelessness, deliver what's needed to end Maori homelessness, and deliver what's needed to end Maori homelessness, and turn deliver what's needed to end Maori homelessness, and turn around deliver what's needed to end Maori homelessness, and turn around the homelessness, and turn around the falling homelessness, and turn around the falling Maori homelessness, and turn around the falling Maori home homelessness, and turn around the falling Maori home ownership homelessness, and turn around the falling Maori home ownership rate, falling Maori home ownership rate, which falling Maori home ownership rate, which is falling Maori home ownership rate, which is now falling Maori home ownership rate, which is now on falling Maori home ownership rate, which is now on the falling Maori home ownership rate, which is now on the 28%? which is now on the 28%? <SPEAKS which is now on the 28%? <SPEAKS TE which is now on the 28%? <SPEAKS TE REO which is now on the 28%? <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> Will Will he Will he join Will he join with Will he join with me Will he join with me and Will he join with me and support Will he join with me and support Labour's Will he join with me and support Labour's Maori Will he join with me and support Labour's Maori housing Will he join with me and support Labour's Maori housing plan Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Ms Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Ms Masters Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Ms Masters and Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Ms Masters and her Labour's Maori housing plan alongside Ms Masters and her family, alongside Ms Masters and her family, who alongside Ms Masters and her family, who have alongside Ms Masters and her family, who have been alongside Ms Masters and her family, who have been struggling alongside Ms Masters and her family, who have been struggling to alongside Ms Masters and her family, who have been struggling to buy who have been struggling to buy their who have been struggling to buy their own who have been struggling to buy their own home who have been struggling to buy their own home under who have been struggling to buy their own home under this their own home under this Government, their own home under this Government, but their own home under this Government, but described their own home under this Government, but described Labour's Government, but described Labour's plan Government, but described Labour's plan as, Government, but described Labour's plan as, "An Government, but described Labour's plan as, "An awesome Government, but described Labour's plan as, "An awesome idea"? plan as, "An awesome idea"? <SPEAKS plan as, "An awesome idea"? <SPEAKS TE plan as, "An awesome idea"? <SPEAKS TE REO plan as, "An awesome idea"? <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS <SPEAKS TE <SPEAKS TE REO <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> We We look We look forward We look forward to We look forward to supporting We look forward to supporting Te We look forward to supporting Te Pune We look forward to supporting Te Pune Korkiri We look forward to supporting Te Pune Korkiri in We look forward to supporting Te Pune Korkiri in these We look forward to supporting Te Pune Korkiri in these programs, We look forward to supporting Te Pune Korkiri in these programs, we Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would like Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would like to Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would like to thank Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would like to thank Minister Pune Korkiri in these programs, we would like to thank Minister Flavell would like to thank Minister Flavell who would like to thank Minister Flavell who has would like to thank Minister Flavell who has worked would like to thank Minister Flavell who has worked hard would like to thank Minister Flavell who has worked hard to would like to thank Minister Flavell who has worked hard to improve would like to thank Minister Flavell who has worked hard to improve Maori who has worked hard to improve Maori housing who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for every who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for every year who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for every year for who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for every year for the who has worked hard to improve Maori housing for every year for the past housing for every year for the past three housing for every year for the past three years. housing for every year for the past three years. 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Can the minister confirm that the percentage minister confirm that the percentage of minister confirm that the percentage of homes minister confirm that the percentage of homes that minister confirm that the percentage of homes that were minister confirm that the percentage of homes that were owner-occupied of homes that were owner-occupied and of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied by of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied by Maori of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied by Maori fell of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied by Maori fell from of homes that were owner-occupied and occupied by Maori fell from the and occupied by Maori fell from the high and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s percentages and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s percentages to and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s percentages to the and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s percentages to the low and occupied by Maori fell from the high 40s percentages to the low 40s high 40s percentages to the low 40s between high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the years high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the years of high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the years of 1999 high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the years of 1999 and high 40s percentages to the low 40s between the years of 1999 and 2008? between the years of 1999 and 2008? Order! Order! <SPEAKS Order! <SPEAKS TE Order! <SPEAKS TE REO Order! <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> Question Question No. Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: Can My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he My question is to the Minister of Health: Can he confirm of Health: Can he confirm that of Health: Can he confirm that the of Health: Can he confirm that the Government of Health: Can he confirm that the Government has of Health: Can he confirm that the Government has set of Health: Can he confirm that the Government has set a of Health: Can he confirm that the Government has set a goal that the Government has set a goal to that the Government has set a goal to reduce that the Government has set a goal to reduce Sudden that the Government has set a goal to reduce Sudden Unexpected that the Government has set a goal to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death in to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death in Infancy to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death in Infancy by to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death in Infancy by 86 to reduce Sudden Unexpected Death in Infancy by 86 percent in Infancy by 86 percent over in Infancy by 86 percent over the in Infancy by 86 percent over the next in Infancy by 86 percent over the next 8 in Infancy by 86 percent over the next 8 years? 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This program will help the Budget for initiatives to $5.1 million. This program will help to million. This program will help to reduce million. This program will help to reduce the million. This program will help to reduce the overall million. This program will help to reduce the overall rate million. This program will help to reduce the overall rate of million. This program will help to reduce the overall rate of SUDI million. This program will help to reduce the overall rate of SUDI by reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by 94% reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by 94% for reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by 94% for Maori reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by 94% for Maori by reduce the overall rate of SUDI by 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would reduce 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would reduce the 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would reduce the number 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would reduce the number of 86% and by 94% for Maori by 2025. This would reduce the number of SUDI This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from 44 This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from 44 to This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from 44 to 6. This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from 44 to 6. This This would reduce the number of SUDI deaths from 44 to 6. This Government deaths from 44 to 6. This Government believes deaths from 44 to 6. This Government believes in deaths from 44 to 6. This Government believes in supporting deaths from 44 to 6. This Government believes in supporting women deaths from 44 to 6. This Government believes in supporting women and believes in supporting women and families believes in supporting women and families to believes in supporting women and families to have believes in supporting women and families to have healthy believes in supporting women and families to have healthy babies believes in supporting women and families to have healthy babies who families to have healthy babies who grow families to have healthy babies who grow up families to have healthy babies who grow up to families to have healthy babies who grow up to be families to have healthy babies who grow up to be healthy families to have healthy babies who grow up to be healthy kids. families to have healthy babies who grow up to be healthy kids. How families to have healthy babies who grow up to be healthy kids. How will grow up to be healthy kids. How will the grow up to be healthy kids. How will the national grow up to be healthy kids. 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We will be targeting the risks of parents and babies sharing risks of parents and babies sharing a risks of parents and babies sharing a bed risks of parents and babies sharing a bed by risks of parents and babies sharing a bed by providing risks of parents and babies sharing a bed by providing safe risks of parents and babies sharing a bed by providing safe sleeping a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, such a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, such as a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, such as pods, a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, such as pods, to a bed by providing safe sleeping devices, such as pods, to families devices, such as pods, to families identified devices, such as pods, to families identified as devices, such as pods, to families identified as needing devices, such as pods, to families identified as needing them devices, such as pods, to families identified as needing them during identified as needing them during the identified as needing them during the baby's identified as needing them during the baby's first identified as needing them during the baby's first year identified as needing them during the baby's first year of identified as needing them during the baby's first year of life. identified as needing them during the baby's first year of life. 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A range of other evidence-based risk range of other evidence-based risk and range of other evidence-based risk and protective range of other evidence-based risk and protective factors range of other evidence-based risk and protective factors will range of other evidence-based risk and protective factors will also range of other evidence-based risk and protective factors will also be and protective factors will also be incorporated and protective factors will also be incorporated into and protective factors will also be incorporated into the and protective factors will also be incorporated into the national incorporated into the national prevention incorporated into the national prevention program, incorporated into the national prevention program, including prevention program, including encouraging prevention program, including encouraging immunisation, encouraging immunisation, breastfeeding encouraging immunisation, breastfeeding and encouraging immunisation, breastfeeding and sleeping encouraging immunisation, breastfeeding and sleeping babies encouraging immunisation, breastfeeding and sleeping babies on breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their backs. breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their backs. The breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their backs. The strength breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their backs. The strength of breastfeeding and sleeping babies on their backs. The strength of the their backs. The strength of the national their backs. The strength of the national prevention their backs. The strength of the national prevention program their backs. The strength of the national prevention program will national prevention program will help national prevention program will help to national prevention program will help to protect national prevention program will help to protect the national prevention program will help to protect the 60,000 national prevention program will help to protect the 60,000 babies help to protect the 60,000 babies born help to protect the 60,000 babies born each help to protect the 60,000 babies born each year help to protect the 60,000 babies born each year in help to protect the 60,000 babies born each year in New help to protect the 60,000 babies born each year in New Zealand help to protect the 60,000 babies born each year in New Zealand to born each year in New Zealand to ensure born each year in New Zealand to ensure that born each year in New Zealand to ensure that they born each year in New Zealand to ensure that they have born each year in New Zealand to ensure that they have the born each year in New Zealand to ensure that they have the best ensure that they have the best chance ensure that they have the best chance for ensure that they have the best chance for a ensure that they have the best chance for a healthy ensure that they have the best chance for a healthy and ensure that they have the best chance for a healthy and long chance for a healthy and long future. chance for a healthy and long future. Question chance for a healthy and long future. Question No. chance for a healthy and long future. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Primary My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: How My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: How close for Primary Industries: How close will for Primary Industries: How close will Canterbury for Primary Industries: How close will Canterbury come for Primary Industries: How close will Canterbury come to for Primary Industries: How close will Canterbury come to the for Primary Industries: How close will Canterbury come to the limit will Canterbury come to the limit for will Canterbury come to the limit for dairy will Canterbury come to the limit for dairy intensification will Canterbury come to the limit for dairy intensification when will Canterbury come to the limit for dairy intensification when Stage for dairy intensification when Stage 2 for dairy intensification when Stage 2 of for dairy intensification when Stage 2 of the for dairy intensification when Stage 2 of the Central for dairy intensification when Stage 2 of the Central Plains for dairy intensification when Stage 2 of the Central Plains Water 2 of the Central Plains Water irrigation 2 of the Central Plains Water irrigation scheme 2 of the Central Plains Water irrigation scheme is 2 of the Central Plains Water irrigation scheme is completed? I I have I have no I have no ministerial I have no ministerial responsibility I have no ministerial responsibility for I have no ministerial responsibility for the I have no ministerial responsibility for the Canterbury I have no ministerial responsibility for the Canterbury region's for the Canterbury region's environmental for the Canterbury region's environmental management. for the Canterbury region's environmental management. This for the Canterbury region's environmental management. This is, environmental management. This is, of environmental management. This is, of course, environmental management. This is, of course, the environmental management. This is, of course, the responsibility environmental management. This is, of course, the responsibility of of course, the responsibility of Environment of course, the responsibility of Environment Canterbury, of course, the responsibility of Environment Canterbury, who of course, the responsibility of Environment Canterbury, who have Environment Canterbury, who have issued Environment Canterbury, who have issued consents Environment Canterbury, who have issued consents for Environment Canterbury, who have issued consents for this Environment Canterbury, who have issued consents for this project. issued consents for this project. The issued consents for this project. The impacts issued consents for this project. The impacts of issued consents for this project. The impacts of farming issued consents for this project. The impacts of farming on issued consents for this project. The impacts of farming on the The impacts of farming on the environment The impacts of farming on the environment are The impacts of farming on the environment are best The impacts of farming on the environment are best managed The impacts of farming on the environment are best managed at The impacts of farming on the environment are best managed at a environment are best managed at a Regional environment are best managed at a Regional Council environment are best managed at a Regional Council level, environment are best managed at a Regional Council level, and environment are best managed at a Regional Council level, and of Regional Council level, and of course Regional Council level, and of course on Regional Council level, and of course on a Regional Council level, and of course on a catchment Regional Council level, and of course on a catchment by Regional Council level, and of course on a catchment by catchment course on a catchment by catchment basis. course on a catchment by catchment basis. However, course on a catchment by catchment basis. However, as course on a catchment by catchment basis. However, as a course on a catchment by catchment basis. However, as a Government, course on a catchment by catchment basis. However, as a Government, we basis. However, as a Government, we are basis. However, as a Government, we are setting basis. However, as a Government, we are setting stronger basis. However, as a Government, we are setting stronger requirements are setting stronger requirements for are setting stronger requirements for monitoring are setting stronger requirements for monitoring and are setting stronger requirements for monitoring and improving for monitoring and improving waterways. for monitoring and improving waterways. We're for monitoring and improving waterways. We're also for monitoring and improving waterways. We're also strong waterways. We're also strong supporters waterways. We're also strong supporters of waterways. We're also strong supporters of irrigation waterways. We're also strong supporters of irrigation and waterways. We're also strong supporters of irrigation and water supporters of irrigation and water storage supporters of irrigation and water storage projects supporters of irrigation and water storage projects like supporters of irrigation and water storage projects like the supporters of irrigation and water storage projects like the Central storage projects like the Central Plains storage projects like the Central Plains scheme, storage projects like the Central Plains scheme, because storage projects like the Central Plains scheme, because they storage projects like the Central Plains scheme, because they bring Plains scheme, because they bring both Plains scheme, because they bring both economic Plains scheme, because they bring both economic and Plains scheme, because they bring both economic and environmental both economic and environmental benefits. both economic and environmental benefits. Can both economic and environmental benefits. Can he both economic and environmental benefits. Can he confirm both economic and environmental benefits. Can he confirm that benefits. Can he confirm that through benefits. Can he confirm that through grants benefits. Can he confirm that through grants from benefits. Can he confirm that through grants from the benefits. Can he confirm that through grants from the irrigation through grants from the irrigation acceleration through grants from the irrigation acceleration fund, through grants from the irrigation acceleration fund, and through grants from the irrigation acceleration fund, and loans through grants from the irrigation acceleration fund, and loans from acceleration fund, and loans from Crown acceleration fund, and loans from Crown Irrigation acceleration fund, and loans from Crown Irrigation Investments acceleration fund, and loans from Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, acceleration fund, and loans from Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he has Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he has subsidised Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he has subsidised a Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he has subsidised a predicted Crown Irrigation Investments Ltd, he has subsidised a predicted increase has subsidised a predicted increase in has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% in has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% in nutrient has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% in nutrient pollution has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% in nutrient pollution in has subsidised a predicted increase in 29% in nutrient pollution in the in 29% in nutrient pollution in the Selwyn in 29% in nutrient pollution in the Selwyn catchment in 29% in nutrient pollution in the Selwyn catchment through in 29% in nutrient pollution in the Selwyn catchment through his Selwyn catchment through his Government's Selwyn catchment through his Government's grants Selwyn catchment through his Government's grants and Selwyn catchment through his Government's grants and subsidies Selwyn catchment through his Government's grants and subsidies to Government's grants and subsidies to Central Government's grants and subsidies to Central Plains? Government's grants and subsidies to Central Plains? No, Government's grants and subsidies to Central Plains? No, I Government's grants and subsidies to Central Plains? No, I can't Government's grants and subsidies to Central Plains? No, I can't confirm Central Plains? No, I can't confirm those Central Plains? No, I can't confirm those numbers. Central Plains? No, I can't confirm those numbers. Ultimately, Central Plains? No, I can't confirm those numbers. Ultimately, the those numbers. Ultimately, the Government those numbers. Ultimately, the Government - those numbers. Ultimately, the Government - we've those numbers. Ultimately, the Government - we've got those numbers. Ultimately, the Government - we've got two those numbers. Ultimately, the Government - we've got two funding Government - we've got two funding programs. Government - we've got two funding programs. One Government - we've got two funding programs. One is Government - we've got two funding programs. One is a Government - we've got two funding programs. One is a grant Government - we've got two funding programs. One is a grant allocation programs. One is a grant allocation to programs. One is a grant allocation to get programs. One is a grant allocation to get these programs. One is a grant allocation to get these programs programs. One is a grant allocation to get these programs up programs. One is a grant allocation to get these programs up and to get these programs up and running, to get these programs up and running, because to get these programs up and running, because on to get these programs up and running, because on average to get these programs up and running, because on average they running, because on average they take running, because on average they take 15 running, because on average they take 15 years, running, because on average they take 15 years, and running, because on average they take 15 years, and then running, because on average they take 15 years, and then Crown take 15 years, and then Crown Irrigation take 15 years, and then Crown Irrigation Investments take 15 years, and then Crown Irrigation Investments company, take 15 years, and then Crown Irrigation Investments company, they Irrigation Investments company, they may Irrigation Investments company, they may come Irrigation Investments company, they may come in Irrigation Investments company, they may come in the Irrigation Investments company, they may come in the end, Irrigation Investments company, they may come in the end, like Irrigation Investments company, they may come in the end, like they Irrigation Investments company, they may come in the end, like they have may come in the end, like they have on may come in the end, like they have on stage may come in the end, like they have on stage one, may come in the end, like they have on stage one, invested may come in the end, like they have on stage one, invested 6.5 may come in the end, like they have on stage one, invested 6.5 million on stage one, invested 6.5 million and on stage one, invested 6.5 million and then on stage one, invested 6.5 million and then got on stage one, invested 6.5 million and then got that on stage one, invested 6.5 million and then got that money on stage one, invested 6.5 million and then got that money returned and then got that money returned back and then got that money returned back to and then got that money returned back to them. and then got that money returned back to them. Ultimately, and then got that money returned back to them. Ultimately, it's and then got that money returned back to them. Ultimately, it's about back to them. Ultimately, it's about farmers back to them. Ultimately, it's about farmers making back to them. Ultimately, it's about farmers making the back to them. Ultimately, it's about farmers making the investment. back to them. Ultimately, it's about farmers making the investment. Does farmers making the investment. Does he farmers making the investment. Does he agree farmers making the investment. Does he agree with farmers making the investment. Does he agree with the farmers making the investment. Does he agree with the OECD farmers making the investment. Does he agree with the OECD in farmers making the investment. Does he agree with the OECD in its farmers making the investment. Does he agree with the OECD in its 2017 he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic Survey he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic Survey of he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic Survey of New he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic Survey of New Zealand he agree with the OECD in its 2017 Economic Survey of New Zealand that, Economic Survey of New Zealand that, "Initiatives Economic Survey of New Zealand that, "Initiatives that Economic Survey of New Zealand that, "Initiatives that drive Economic Survey of New Zealand that, "Initiatives that drive large "Initiatives that drive large increases "Initiatives that drive large increases in "Initiatives that drive large increases in production, "Initiatives that drive large increases in production, such "Initiatives that drive large increases in production, such as increases in production, such as government increases in production, such as government grants increases in production, such as government grants and increases in production, such as government grants and concessional government grants and concessional financing government grants and concessional financing for government grants and concessional financing for irrigation government grants and concessional financing for irrigation projects, financing for irrigation projects, are financing for irrigation projects, are potentially financing for irrigation projects, are potentially in financing for irrigation projects, are potentially in conflict financing for irrigation projects, are potentially in conflict with financing for irrigation projects, are potentially in conflict with the are potentially in conflict with the need are potentially in conflict with the need to are potentially in conflict with the need to maintain are potentially in conflict with the need to maintain and are potentially in conflict with the need to maintain and improve are potentially in conflict with the need to maintain and improve the need to maintain and improve the quality need to maintain and improve the quality of need to maintain and improve the quality of the need to maintain and improve the quality of the environment"? need to maintain and improve the quality of the environment"? Well, quality of the environment"? Well, when quality of the environment"? Well, when we quality of the environment"? Well, when we came quality of the environment"? Well, when we came into quality of the environment"? Well, when we came into government, quality of the environment"? Well, when we came into government, there when we came into government, there weren't when we came into government, there weren't National when we came into government, there weren't National policy when we came into government, there weren't National policy statements weren't National policy statements to weren't National policy statements to do weren't National policy statements to do with weren't National policy statements to do with improving weren't National policy statements to do with improving freshwater. to do with improving freshwater. We've to do with improving freshwater. We've done to do with improving freshwater. We've done a to do with improving freshwater. We've done a huge to do with improving freshwater. We've done a huge amount. to do with improving freshwater. We've done a huge amount. We're to do with improving freshwater. We've done a huge amount. We're now We've done a huge amount. We're now consulting We've done a huge amount. We're now consulting with We've done a huge amount. We're now consulting with the We've done a huge amount. We're now consulting with the farming consulting with the farming community consulting with the farming community about consulting with the farming community about fencing consulting with the farming community about fencing regulations community about fencing regulations to community about fencing regulations to exclude community about fencing regulations to exclude the community about fencing regulations to exclude the next community about fencing regulations to exclude the next stage community about fencing regulations to exclude the next stage of community about fencing regulations to exclude the next stage of animals to exclude the next stage of animals out to exclude the next stage of animals out of to exclude the next stage of animals out of waterways to exclude the next stage of animals out of waterways on to exclude the next stage of animals out of waterways on medium to exclude the next stage of animals out of waterways on medium and out of waterways on medium and rolling out of waterways on medium and rolling country. out of waterways on medium and rolling country. I out of waterways on medium and rolling country. I can't out of waterways on medium and rolling country. I can't agree out of waterways on medium and rolling country. I can't agree with rolling country. I can't agree with the rolling country. I can't agree with the member's rolling country. I can't agree with the member's assertion. rolling country. I can't agree with the member's assertion. Can rolling country. I can't agree with the member's assertion. Can the the member's assertion. Can the minister the member's assertion. Can the minister confirm the member's assertion. Can the minister confirm that the member's assertion. Can the minister confirm that water the member's assertion. Can the minister confirm that water storage minister confirm that water storage is minister confirm that water storage is critical minister confirm that water storage is critical to minister confirm that water storage is critical to both minister confirm that water storage is critical to both growing is critical to both growing horticultural is critical to both growing horticultural exports is critical to both growing horticultural exports and is critical to both growing horticultural exports and improving horticultural exports and improving water horticultural exports and improving water quality, horticultural exports and improving water quality, and horticultural exports and improving water quality, and can horticultural exports and improving water quality, and can regions horticultural exports and improving water quality, and can regions like water quality, and can regions like Nelson water quality, and can regions like Nelson expect water quality, and can regions like Nelson expect to water quality, and can regions like Nelson expect to continue water quality, and can regions like Nelson expect to continue to water quality, and can regions like Nelson expect to continue to lead Nelson expect to continue to lead New Nelson expect to continue to lead New Zealand Nelson expect to continue to lead New Zealand with Nelson expect to continue to lead New Zealand with the Nelson expect to continue to lead New Zealand with the lowest Nelson expect to continue to lead New Zealand with the lowest levels New Zealand with the lowest levels of New Zealand with the lowest levels of unemployment New Zealand with the lowest levels of unemployment if New Zealand with the lowest levels of unemployment if the New Zealand with the lowest levels of unemployment if the Waimea New Zealand with the lowest levels of unemployment if the Waimea Dam of unemployment if the Waimea Dam project of unemployment if the Waimea Dam project is of unemployment if the Waimea Dam project is scuttled? of unemployment if the Waimea Dam project is scuttled? 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The Waimea project, as supported by one Waimea project, as supported by one of Waimea project, as supported by one of the Waimea project, as supported by one of the local Waimea project, as supported by one of the local MPs Waimea project, as supported by one of the local MPs there, Waimea project, as supported by one of the local MPs there, Damien of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor - of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor - despite of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor - despite his of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor - despite his party of the local MPs there, Damien O'Connor - despite his party being O'Connor - despite his party being against O'Connor - despite his party being against water O'Connor - despite his party being against water storage O'Connor - despite his party being against water storage and O'Connor - despite his party being against water storage and the against water storage and the Greens. against water storage and the Greens. 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Not only are they getting 91 days. Not only are they getting the 91 days. Not only are they getting the skills 91 days. Not only are they getting the skills and 91 days. Not only are they getting the skills and experience 91 days. Not only are they getting the skills and experience that 91 days. 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This Government education, training, or employment outcomes. This Government is outcomes. This Government is absolutely outcomes. This Government is absolutely committed outcomes. This Government is absolutely committed to outcomes. This Government is absolutely committed to breaking outcomes. This Government is absolutely committed to breaking the absolutely committed to breaking the cycle absolutely committed to breaking the cycle of absolutely committed to breaking the cycle of welfare absolutely committed to breaking the cycle of welfare dependency absolutely committed to breaking the cycle of welfare dependency and cycle of welfare dependency and helping cycle of welfare dependency and helping people cycle of welfare dependency and helping people live cycle of welfare dependency and helping people live independent cycle of welfare dependency and helping people live independent and helping people live independent and successful helping people live independent and successful lives, helping people live independent and successful lives, and helping people live independent and successful lives, and we helping people live independent and successful lives, and we have successful lives, and we have already successful lives, and we have already had successful lives, and we have already had tremendous successful lives, and we have already had tremendous success, successful lives, and we have already had tremendous success, with already had tremendous success, with over already had tremendous success, with over 61,000 already had tremendous success, with over 61,000 fewer already had tremendous success, with over 61,000 fewer children already had tremendous success, with over 61,000 fewer children now over 61,000 fewer children now living over 61,000 fewer children now living in over 61,000 fewer children now living in benefit-dependent living in benefit-dependent households, living in benefit-dependent households, and living in benefit-dependent households, and the living in benefit-dependent households, and the figures living in benefit-dependent households, and the figures out households, and the figures out today households, and the figures out today showing households, and the figures out today showing unemployment households, and the figures out today showing unemployment at households, and the figures out today showing unemployment at 4.8% households, and the figures out today showing unemployment at 4.8% - today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest it today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest it has today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest it has been today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest it has been since today showing unemployment at 4.8% - the lowest it has been since before the lowest it has been since before the the lowest it has been since before the global the lowest it has been since before the global financial the lowest it has been since before the global financial crisis. the global financial crisis. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Health: My question is to the Minister of Health: What My question is to the Minister of Health: What responsibility My question is to the Minister of Health: What responsibility does of Health: What responsibility does he of Health: What responsibility does he take of Health: What responsibility does he take as of Health: What responsibility does he take as Minister of Health: What responsibility does he take as Minister of of Health: What responsibility does he take as Minister of Health he take as Minister of Health for he take as Minister of Health for his he take as Minister of Health for his Director-General he take as Minister of Health for his Director-General of he take as Minister of Health for his Director-General of Health, for his Director-General of Health, who for his Director-General of Health, who "probably for his Director-General of Health, who "probably overreached who "probably overreached a who "probably overreached a bit" who "probably overreached a bit" as who "probably overreached a bit" as said who "probably overreached a bit" as said by who "probably overreached a bit" as said by him a bit" as said by him in a bit" as said by him in the a bit" as said by him in the House a bit" as said by him in the House yesterday? 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Under the State Sector Act, public established. Under the State Sector Act, public service established. Under the State Sector Act, public service chief established. Under the State Sector Act, public service chief executives Act, public service chief executives are Act, public service chief executives are employed Act, public service chief executives are employed by Act, public service chief executives are employed by the Act, public service chief executives are employed by the State Act, public service chief executives are employed by the State Services are employed by the State Services Commissioner are employed by the State Services Commissioner and are employed by the State Services Commissioner and the are employed by the State Services Commissioner and the Commissioner are employed by the State Services Commissioner and the Commissioner is Commissioner and the Commissioner is responsible Commissioner and the Commissioner is responsible for Commissioner and the Commissioner is responsible for managing Commissioner and the Commissioner is responsible for managing their responsible for managing their performance responsible for managing their performance in responsible for managing their performance in this responsible for managing their performance in this role. responsible for managing their performance in this role. 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Minister of Health to Mr Chuah as the Director-General of health. Does the Director-General of health. Does he the Director-General of health. Does he think the Director-General of health. Does he think it the Director-General of health. Does he think it is the Director-General of health. Does he think it is acceptable the Director-General of health. Does he think it is acceptable that the Director-General of health. 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Has more first specialist assessments. Has he more first specialist assessments. Has he asked more first specialist assessments. Has he asked his more first specialist assessments. Has he asked his Director-General more first specialist assessments. 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On decorum of the House at the time, I may then intervene. On this may then intervene. On this occasion, may then intervene. On this occasion, I may then intervene. On this occasion, I did may then intervene. On this occasion, I did not may then intervene. On this occasion, I did not intervene. may then intervene. On this occasion, I did not intervene. I occasion, I did not intervene. I think occasion, I did not intervene. I think Mr occasion, I did not intervene. I think Mr Clark occasion, I did not intervene. I think Mr Clark can occasion, I did not intervene. I think Mr Clark can justify occasion, I did not intervene. I think Mr Clark can justify whether, think Mr Clark can justify whether, in think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own mind, think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own mind, he think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own mind, he should think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own mind, he should have think Mr Clark can justify whether, in his own mind, he should have used in his own mind, he should have used those in his own mind, he should have used those words. in his own mind, he should have used those words. That in his own mind, he should have used those words. That is in his own mind, he should have used those words. That is his in his own mind, he should have used those words. That is his business. those words. That is his business. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 10. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Primary My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: My question is to the Minister for Primary Industries: Does for Primary Industries: Does he for Primary Industries: Does he believe for Primary Industries: Does he believe that for Primary Industries: Does he believe that New for Primary Industries: Does he believe that New Zealand for Primary Industries: Does he believe that New Zealand has he believe that New Zealand has robust he believe that New Zealand has robust biosecurity he believe that New Zealand has robust biosecurity in he believe that New Zealand has robust biosecurity in light robust biosecurity in light of robust biosecurity in light of Mycoplasma robust biosecurity in light of Mycoplasma bovis of Mycoplasma bovis and of Mycoplasma bovis and other of Mycoplasma bovis and other recent of Mycoplasma bovis and other recent incursions? 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This Government has placed a huge focus on biosecurity, placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall funding placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall funding is placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall funding is now placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall funding is now at placed a huge focus on biosecurity, and overall funding is now at a and overall funding is now at a record and overall funding is now at a record high and overall funding is now at a record high of and overall funding is now at a record high of $248 and overall funding is now at a record high of $248 million and overall funding is now at a record high of $248 million per record high of $248 million per year. record high of $248 million per year. Even record high of $248 million per year. Even if record high of $248 million per year. Even if we record high of $248 million per year. 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Does his belief that New Zealand has robust biosecurity New Zealand has robust biosecurity and New Zealand has robust biosecurity and border New Zealand has robust biosecurity and border processes New Zealand has robust biosecurity and border processes extend New Zealand has robust biosecurity and border processes extend to New Zealand has robust biosecurity and border processes extend to the and border processes extend to the import and border processes extend to the import health and border processes extend to the import health standards and border processes extend to the import health standards for and border processes extend to the import health standards for bovine import health standards for bovine semen import health standards for bovine semen and import health standards for bovine semen and embryos import health standards for bovine semen and embryos - import health standards for bovine semen and embryos - if import health standards for bovine semen and embryos - if not, import health standards for bovine semen and embryos - if not, why import health standards for bovine semen and embryos - if not, why not? semen and embryos - if not, why not? 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that they are getting and there are hundreds of thousands - that they are getting quicker - that they are getting quicker - that they are getting quicker - that they are getting quicker travel times - that they are getting quicker travel times and - that they are getting quicker travel times and much, - that they are getting quicker travel times and much, much - that they are getting quicker travel times and much, much more travel times and much, much more reliable travel times and much, much more reliable travel travel times and much, much more reliable travel times. travel times and much, much more reliable travel times. 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