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Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.

Primary Title
  • Parliament TV: Questions for Oral Answer
Date Broadcast
  • Tuesday 8 August 2017
Start Time
  • 14 : 00
Finish Time
  • 15 : 30
Duration
  • 90:00
Channel
  • Parliament TV
Broadcaster
  • Kordia
Programme Description
  • Parliament TV provides live broadcasts from the House of Representatives. Coverage: Questions for Oral Answer.
Classification
  • Not Classified
Owning Collection
  • Chapman Archive
Broadcast Platform
  • Television
Languages
  • English
Captions
Live Broadcast
  • Yes
Rights Statement
  • Made for the University of Auckland's educational use as permitted by the Screenrights Licensing Agreement.
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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Did Minister: Did the Minister: Did the Auckland Minister: Did the Auckland transport Did the Auckland transport announcement Did the Auckland transport announcement he Did the Auckland transport announcement he made Did the Auckland transport announcement he made on Did the Auckland transport announcement he made on Sunday announcement he made on Sunday include announcement he made on Sunday include any announcement he made on Sunday include any acceleration include any acceleration of include any acceleration of his include any acceleration of his Government's include any acceleration of his Government's plan include any acceleration of his Government's plan to include any acceleration of his Government's plan to wait include any acceleration of his Government's plan to wait 30 of his Government's plan to wait 30 years of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to build of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to build rail of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to build rail to of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to build rail to the of his Government's plan to wait 30 years to build rail to the airport; years to build rail to the airport; if years to build rail to the airport; if not, years to build rail to the airport; if not, why years to build rail to the airport; if not, why not? 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Mr Speaker, our announcement on Sunday confirmed our announcement on Sunday confirmed that our announcement on Sunday confirmed that we our announcement on Sunday confirmed that we are our announcement on Sunday confirmed that we are committing our announcement on Sunday confirmed that we are committing $267 our announcement on Sunday confirmed that we are committing $267 million that we are committing $267 million to that we are committing $267 million to improving that we are committing $267 million to improving commuter that we are committing $267 million to improving commuter rail that we are committing $267 million to improving commuter rail in to improving commuter rail in Auckland to improving commuter rail in Auckland and to improving commuter rail in Auckland and in to improving commuter rail in Auckland and in Wellington to improving commuter rail in Auckland and in Wellington to Auckland and in Wellington to support Auckland and in Wellington to support future Auckland and in Wellington to support future passenger Auckland and in Wellington to support future passenger growth. Auckland and in Wellington to support future passenger growth. It support future passenger growth. It is support future passenger growth. It is part support future passenger growth. It is part of support future passenger growth. It is part of a support future passenger growth. It is part of a $24 support future passenger growth. It is part of a $24 billion support future passenger growth. It is part of a $24 billion transport is part of a $24 billion transport plan is part of a $24 billion transport plan that is part of a $24 billion transport plan that we is part of a $24 billion transport plan that we have is part of a $24 billion transport plan that we have worked is part of a $24 billion transport plan that we have worked together is part of a $24 billion transport plan that we have worked together on plan that we have worked together on with plan that we have worked together on with the plan that we have worked together on with the Auckland plan that we have worked together on with the Auckland City plan that we have worked together on with the Auckland City Council, plan that we have worked together on with the Auckland City Council, and with the Auckland City Council, and that with the Auckland City Council, and that plan with the Auckland City Council, and that plan is with the Auckland City Council, and that plan is currently with the Auckland City Council, and that plan is currently being that plan is currently being updated. that plan is currently being updated. And that plan is currently being updated. And in that plan is currently being updated. And in that that plan is currently being updated. And in that update that plan is currently being updated. And in that update process, updated. And in that update process, it updated. And in that update process, that updated. And in that update process, it will take updated. And in that update process, it will take account updated. And in that update process, it will take account of updated. And in that update process, it will take account of growing it will take account of growing demand it will take account of growing demand for it will take account of growing demand for light it will take account of growing demand for light rail, it will take account of growing demand for light rail, and it will take account of growing demand for light rail, and it's demand for light rail, and it's always demand for light rail, and it's always possible demand for light rail, and it's always possible that demand for light rail, and it's always possible that it demand for light rail, and it's always possible that it could demand for light rail, and it's always possible that it could come always possible that it could come forward... forward... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> ..that <INTERRUPTION> ..that it <INTERRUPTION> ..that it could <INTERRUPTION> ..that it could come <INTERRUPTION> ..that it could come forward. <INTERRUPTION> ..that it could come forward. 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But right now, it has reduced the travel right now, it has reduced the travel time right now, it has reduced the travel time to right now, it has reduced the travel time to 25 right now, it has reduced the travel time to 25 minutes, right now, it has reduced the travel time to 25 minutes, reduced time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and so time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and so we time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and so we have time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and so we have time time to 25 minutes, reduced congestion, and so we have time to congestion, and so we have time to consider congestion, and so we have time to consider the congestion, and so we have time to consider the need congestion, and so we have time to consider the need for congestion, and so we have time to consider the need for light congestion, and so we have time to consider the need for light rail. consider the need for light rail. 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Well, <INTERRUPTION> Order! Well, Mr <INTERRUPTION> Order! Well, Mr Speaker, <INTERRUPTION> Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the <INTERRUPTION> Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel time Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel time has Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel time has dropped Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel time has dropped considerably Order! Well, Mr Speaker, the travel time has dropped considerably since time has dropped considerably since the time has dropped considerably since the Waterview time has dropped considerably since the Waterview Tunnel time has dropped considerably since the Waterview Tunnel opened. time has dropped considerably since the Waterview Tunnel opened. And the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a big the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a big step the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a big step forward. the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a big step forward. As the Waterview Tunnel opened. And that is a big step forward. As part that is a big step forward. As part of that is a big step forward. As part of the that is a big step forward. As part of the transport that is a big step forward. As part of the transport plan that is a big step forward. As part of the transport plan with that is a big step forward. As part of the transport plan with Auckland, of the transport plan with Auckland, we of the transport plan with Auckland, we need of the transport plan with Auckland, we need to of the transport plan with Auckland, we need to fast-track of the transport plan with Auckland, we need to fast-track the of the transport plan with Auckland, we need to fast-track the route we need to fast-track the route protection we need to fast-track the route protection for we need to fast-track the route protection for the we need to fast-track the route protection for the mass we need to fast-track the route protection for the mass transit protection for the mass transit corridor, protection for the mass transit corridor, and protection for the mass transit corridor, and that protection for the mass transit corridor, and that is protection for the mass transit corridor, and that is agreed protection for the mass transit corridor, and that is agreed and corridor, and that is agreed and under corridor, and that is agreed and under way. corridor, and that is agreed and under way. And corridor, and that is agreed and under way. And as corridor, and that is agreed and under way. And as the corridor, and that is agreed and under way. And as the plan corridor, and that is agreed and under way. And as the plan is under way. And as the plan is reviewed under way. And as the plan is reviewed in under way. And as the plan is reviewed in the under way. And as the plan is reviewed in the light under way. And as the plan is reviewed in the light of under way. And as the plan is reviewed in the light of changing reviewed in the light of changing demand, reviewed in the light of changing demand, we reviewed in the light of changing demand, we are reviewed in the light of changing demand, we are interested reviewed in the light of changing demand, we are interested in reviewed in the light of changing demand, we are interested in the demand, we are interested in the light demand, we are interested in the under demand, we are interested in the light rail and demand, we are interested in the light rail and it demand, we are interested in the light rail and it may demand, we are interested in the light rail and it may come demand, we are interested in the light rail and it may come forward, light rail and it may come forward, if light rail and it may come forward, if that's light rail and it may come forward, if that's what's light rail and it may come forward, if that's what's required. if that's what's required. Supplementary. if that's what's required. Supplementary. Order! Supplementary. Order! <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question, Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Does Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Does he Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree with Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree with NZTA Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree with NZTA that Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree with NZTA that Waterview, Jacinda Ardern. Does he agree with NZTA that Waterview, thank Jacinda Ardern. 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If so, why is he relying on what is likely to be a temporary on what is likely to be a temporary solution on what is likely to be a temporary solution to on what is likely to be a temporary solution to fix on what is likely to be a temporary solution to fix Auckland's on what is likely to be a temporary solution to fix Auckland's transport solution to fix Auckland's transport issues solution to fix Auckland's transport issues and solution to fix Auckland's transport issues and refuse solution to fix Auckland's transport issues and refuse to solution to fix Auckland's transport issues and refuse to give issues and refuse to give Aucklanders issues and refuse to give issues issues and refuse to give Aucklanders alternatives and Aucklanders alternatives and choices? choices? The choices? The Rt choices? The Rt Hon choices? The Rt Hon PM. choices? The Rt Hon PM. Well, choices? The Rt Hon PM. Well, Mr choices? The Rt Hon PM. Well, Mr Speaker, choices? The Rt Hon PM. 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Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: If question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: If light question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: If light rail question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: If light rail is question, Jacinda Ardern. 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And, a mass transit corridor should get under way. And, secondly, a mass transit corridor should get under way. And, secondly, we a mass transit corridor should get under way. And, secondly, we are a mass transit corridor should get under way. And, secondly, we are not under way. And, secondly, we are not willing under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to do under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to do - under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to do - between under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to do - between Auckland under way. And, secondly, we are not willing to do - between Auckland and willing to do - between Auckland and the willing to do - between Auckland and the Government, willing to do - between Auckland and the Government, we're willing to do - between Auckland and the Government, we're not willing to do - between Auckland and the Government, we're not willing willing to do - between Auckland and the Government, we're not willing to the Government, we're not willing to do the Government, we're not willing to do light the Government, we're not willing to do light rail the Government, we're not willing to do light rail now the Government, we're not willing to do light rail now at the Government, we're not willing to do light rail now at the the Government, we're not willing to do light rail now at the expense the Government, we're not willing to do light rail now at the expense of do light rail now at the expense of the do light rail now at the expense of the key do light rail now at the expense of the key economic do light rail now at the expense of the key economic project do light rail now at the expense of the key economic project of do light rail now at the expense of the key economic project of the the key economic project of the East-West the key economic project of the East-West Link, the key economic project of the East-West Link, which the key economic project of the East-West Link, which is the key economic project of the East-West Link, which is about the key economic project of the East-West Link, which is about and East-West Link, which is about and trucks, East-West Link, which is about and trucks, and East-West Link, which is about and trucks, and -- East-West Link, which is about and trucks, and -- about East-West Link, which is about and trucks, and -- about freight East-West Link, which is about and trucks, and -- about freight and trucks, and -- about freight and trucks, trucks, and -- about freight and trucks, and trucks, and -- about freight and trucks, and economic trucks, and -- about freight and trucks, and economic activity. trucks, and economic activity. Labour's trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan is trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan is to trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan is to scale trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan is to scale back trucks, and economic activity. Labour's plan is to scale back the Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Link Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Link and Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Link and in Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Link and in a Labour's plan is to scale back the East-West Link and in a regional East-West Link and in a regional field East-West Link and in a regional field tax. East-West Link and in a regional field tax. We East-West Link and in a regional field tax. We simply East-West Link and in a regional field tax. We simply disagree East-West Link and in a regional field tax. We simply disagree with field tax. We simply disagree with both. field tax. We simply disagree with both. When field tax. We simply disagree with both. When Auckland field tax. We simply disagree with both. When Auckland Council, field tax. We simply disagree with both. When Auckland Council, Greater both. When Auckland Council, Greater Auckland, both. When Auckland Council, Greater Auckland, Auckland's both. When Auckland Council, Greater Auckland, Auckland's Chamber both. When Auckland Council, Greater Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce all Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce all support Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce all support light Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce all support light rail Auckland, Auckland's Chamber of Commerce all support light rail to Commerce all support light rail to the Commerce all support light rail to the airport Commerce all support light rail to the airport straightaway, Commerce all support light rail to the airport straightaway, why Commerce all support light rail to the airport straightaway, why does the airport straightaway, why does he the airport straightaway, why does he think the airport straightaway, why does he think he the airport straightaway, why does he think he knows the airport straightaway, why does he think he knows Auckland's he think he knows Auckland's transport he think he knows Auckland's he he think he knows Auckland's transport needs better he think he knows Auckland's transport needs better than transport needs better than Auckland's transport needs better than Auckland's own transport needs better than Auckland's own community transport needs better than Auckland's own community leaders Auckland's own community leaders Well, Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Speaker, Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Speaker, we Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Speaker, we spent Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a Auckland's own community leaders Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, the Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, the last Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, the last couple Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, the last couple of Well, Mr Speaker, we spent a number of years, the last couple of years, of years, the last couple of years, forming of years, the last couple of years, forming the of years, the last couple of years, forming the Auckland of years, the last couple of years, forming the Auckland Transport of years, the last couple of years, forming the Auckland Transport Plan forming the Auckland Transport Plan with forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the council. forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the council. For forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the council. For the forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the council. For the first forming the Auckland Transport Plan with the council. For the first time with the council. For the first time - with the council. For the first time - for with the council. For the first time - for the with the council. For the first time - for the first with the council. For the first time - for the first time with the council. For the first time - for the first time ever, with the council. For the first time - for the first time ever, central - for the first time ever, central government - for the first time ever, central government and - for the first time ever, central government and the - for the first time ever, central government and the council - for the first time ever, central government and the council have - for the first time ever, central government and the council have a government and the council have a common government and the council have a common view government and the council have a common view about government and the council have a common view about the government and the council have a common view about the projects, government and the council have a common view about the projects, a common view about the projects, a common common view about the projects, a common view common view about the projects, a common view about common view about the projects, a common view about the common view about the projects, a common view about the funding. common view about the projects, a common view about the funding. And, common view about the funding. And, of common view about the funding. And, of course, common view about the funding. And, of course, there common view about the funding. And, of course, there are common view about the funding. And, of course, there are some of course, there are some differences of course, there are some differences of of course, there are some differences of opinion. of course, there are some differences of opinion. We of course, there are some differences of opinion. We both differences of opinion. We both agree differences of opinion. We both agree we differences of opinion. We both agree we need differences of opinion. We both agree we need the differences of opinion. We both agree we need the East-West differences of opinion. We both agree we need the East-West Link agree we need the East-West Link because agree we need the East-West Link because it is agree we need the East-West Link because it is critical agree we need the East-West Link because it is critical to agree we need the East-West Link because it is critical to the because it is critical to the logistics because it is critical to the logistics of because it is critical to the logistics of getting because it is critical to the logistics of getting in because it is critical to the logistics of getting in and because it is critical to the logistics of getting in and out because it is critical to the logistics of getting in and out of logistics of getting in and out of the logistics of getting in and out of the largest logistics of getting in and out of the largest industrial logistics of getting in and out of the largest industrial area logistics of getting in and out of the largest industrial area of logistics of getting in and out of the largest industrial area of New the largest industrial area of New Zealand. the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And I the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And I am the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And I am surprised the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And I am surprised that the largest industrial area of New Zealand. And I am surprised that the Zealand. And I am surprised that the Labour Zealand. And I am surprised that the Labour Party Zealand. And I am surprised that the Labour Party doesn't Zealand. And I am surprised that the Labour Party doesn't understand Zealand. And I am surprised that the Labour Party doesn't understand how Labour Party doesn't understand how necessary Labour Party doesn't understand how necessary it Labour Party doesn't understand how necessary it is. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question, Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Order! Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does he Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does he understand Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does he understand that Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does he understand that Aucklanders Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary: Does he understand that Aucklanders are he understand that Aucklanders are paying he understand that Aucklanders are paying the he understand that Aucklanders are paying the price he understand that Aucklanders are paying the price of he understand that Aucklanders are paying the price of congestion paying the price of congestion already? paying the price of congestion already? They paying the price of congestion already? They pay paying the price of congestion already? They pay it paying the price of congestion already? They pay it in paying the price of congestion already? They pay it in the paying the price of congestion already? They pay it in the time already? They pay it in the time they already? They pay it in the time they spend already? They pay it in the time they spend stuck already? They pay it in the time they spend stuck in already? They pay it in the time they spend stuck in traffic already? They pay it in the time they spend stuck in traffic and already? They pay it in the time they spend stuck in traffic and the they spend stuck in traffic and the work they spend stuck in traffic and the work that they spend stuck in traffic and the work that doesn't they spend stuck in traffic and the work that doesn't get they spend stuck in traffic and the work that doesn't get done, they spend stuck in traffic and the work that doesn't get done, we they spend stuck in traffic and the work that doesn't get done, we have work that doesn't get done, we have the work that doesn't get done, we have the world's work that doesn't get done, we have the world's worst work that doesn't get done, we have the world's worst housing work that doesn't get done, we have the world's worst housing shortage the world's worst housing shortage in the world's worst housing shortage in Auckland the world's worst housing shortage in Auckland yet the world's worst housing shortage in Auckland yet builders the world's worst housing shortage in Auckland yet builders are the world's worst housing shortage in Auckland yet builders are stuck in Auckland yet builders are stuck in in Auckland yet builders are stuck in traffic. in Auckland yet builders are stuck in traffic. Does in Auckland yet builders are stuck in traffic. Does he in Auckland yet builders are stuck in traffic. Does he understand in Auckland yet builders are stuck in traffic. Does he understand the in traffic. Does he understand the cost in traffic. Does he understand the cost of in traffic. Does he understand the cost of doing in traffic. Does he understand the cost of doing nothing in traffic. Does he understand the cost of doing nothing for in traffic. Does he understand the cost of doing nothing for 30 in traffic. Does he understand the cost of doing nothing for 30 more cost of doing nothing for 30 more years cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is great? cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is great? The cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is great? The member cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is great? The member may cost of doing nothing for 30 more years is great? The member may have years is great? The member may have noticed years is great? The member may have noticed all years is great? The member may have noticed all the years is great? The member may have noticed all the red years is great? The member may have noticed all the red cones years is great? The member may have noticed all the red cones around noticed all the red cones around Auckland, noticed all the red cones around Auckland, because noticed all the red cones around Auckland, because there noticed all the red cones around Auckland, because there is noticed all the red cones around Auckland, because there is no noticed all the red cones around Auckland, because there is no major Auckland, because there is no major - Auckland, because there is no major - no Auckland, because there is no major - no major, Auckland, because there is no major - no major, ah, Auckland, because there is no major - no major, ah, transport Auckland, because there is no major - no major, ah, transport route Auckland, because there is no major - no major, ah, transport route that - no major, ah, transport route that is - no major, ah, transport route that is not - no major, ah, transport route that is not undergoing - no major, ah, transport route that is not undergoing major - no major, ah, transport route that is not undergoing major change - no major, ah, transport route that is not undergoing major change with is not undergoing major change with more is not undergoing major change with more projects is not undergoing major change with more projects to is not undergoing major change with more projects to come. is not undergoing major change with more projects to come. Waterview is not undergoing major change with more projects to come. Waterview has more projects to come. Waterview has just more projects to come. Waterview has just opened, more projects to come. Waterview has just opened, northern more projects to come. Waterview has just opened, northern corridor just opened, northern corridor improvements, just opened, northern corridor improvements, expanding just opened, northern corridor improvements, expanding a just opened, northern corridor improvements, expanding a number just opened, northern corridor improvements, expanding a number of improvements, expanding a number of lanes improvements, expanding a number of lanes on improvements, expanding a number of lanes on the improvements, expanding a number of lanes on the southern improvements, expanding a number of lanes on the southern highway, improvements, expanding a number of lanes on the southern highway, the lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which is lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which is the lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which is the biggest lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which is the biggest project lanes on the southern highway, the CRL, which is the biggest project of CRL, which is the biggest project of them CRL, which is the biggest project of them all, CRL, which is the biggest project of them all, the CRL, which is the biggest project of them all, the East-West CRL, which is the biggest project of them all, the East-West Link CRL, which is the biggest project of them all, the East-West Link to them all, the East-West Link to come, them all, the East-West Link to CRL, them all, the East-West Link to come, dealing with them all, the East-West Link to come, dealing with Mill them all, the East-West Link to come, dealing with Mill Road, come, dealing with Mill Road, Aucklanders come, dealing with Mill Road, Aucklanders see come, dealing with Mill Road, Aucklanders see all come, dealing with Mill Road, Aucklanders see all this come, dealing with Mill Road, Aucklanders see all this happening, Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Aucklanders see all this happening, Aucklanders Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Speaker, and Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Speaker, and it Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Speaker, and it is Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Speaker, and it is having Aucklanders see all this happening, Mr Speaker, and it is having an Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on the Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on the flows Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on the flows of Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on the flows of traffic. Mr Speaker, and it is having an impact on the flows of traffic. We impact on the flows of traffic. We have impact on the flows of traffic. We have a impact on the flows of traffic. We have a growing impact on the flows of traffic. We have a growing economy. impact on the flows of traffic. We have a growing economy. That's impact on the flows of traffic. We have a growing economy. That's a have a growing economy. That's a good have a growing economy. That's a good thing! have a growing economy. That's a good thing! We're have a growing economy. That's a good thing! We're going have a growing economy. That's a good thing! We're going to have a growing economy. That's a good thing! We're going to invest have a growing economy. That's a good thing! We're going to invest to good thing! We're going to invest to support good thing! We're going to invest to support that good thing! We're going to invest to support that growth. support that growth. Supplementary? support that growth. Supplementary? Supplementary Supplementary? Supplementary question, Supplementary? Supplementary question, Jacinda Supplementary? Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Supplementary? Supplementary question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying a question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying a decision question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying a decision as question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying a decision as he question, Jacinda Ardern. Rather than delaying a decision as he did than delaying a decision as he did with than delaying a decision as he did with the than delaying a decision as he did with the City than delaying a decision as he did with the City Rail than delaying a decision as he did with the City Rail Link than delaying a decision as he did with the City Rail Link for than delaying a decision as he did with the City Rail Link for so than delaying a decision as he did with the City Rail Link for so many with the City Rail Link for so many years, with the City Rail Link for so many years, will with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he join with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he join with with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he join with me with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he join with me to with the City Rail Link for so many years, will he join with me to make years, will he join with me to make Auckland years, will he join with me to make Auckland a years, will he join with me to make Auckland a world-class years, will he join with me to make Auckland a world-class city, years, will he join with me to make Auckland a world-class city, by Auckland a world-class city, by building Auckland a world-class city, by building a Auckland a world-class city, by building a modern, Auckland a world-class city, by building a modern, light Auckland a world-class city, by building a modern, light rail building a modern, light rail network, building a modern, light rail network, linking building a modern, light rail network, linking to building a modern, light rail network, linking to the building a modern, light rail network, linking to the city building a modern, light rail network, linking to the city centre network, linking to the city centre to network, linking to the city centre to the network, linking to the city centre to the airport, network, linking to the city centre to the airport, to network, linking to the city centre to the airport, to West network, linking to the city centre to the airport, to West Auckland, to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the airport, to West Auckland, and to to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the North to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the North Shore? to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the North Shore? It to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the North Shore? It is to the airport, to West Auckland, and to the North Shore? It is an and to the North Shore? It is an open and to the North Shore? It is an open invitation? open invitation? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Well, <INTERRUPTION> Well, Mr <INTERRUPTION> Well, Mr Speaker... <INTERRUPTION> Well, Mr Speaker... Order! <INTERRUPTION> Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm interested Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm interested in Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm interested in hearing Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm interested in hearing the Well, Mr Speaker... Order! I'm interested in hearing the response. interested in hearing the response. The interested in hearing the response. The Rt interested in hearing the response. The Rt Hon interested in hearing the response. The Rt Hon PM. interested in hearing the response. The Rt Hon PM. Mr interested in hearing the response. The Rt Hon PM. 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Mr Speaker, New Zealand's export, by value, have Zealand's export, by value, have been Zealand's export, by value, have been growing Zealand's export, by value, have been growing over Zealand's export, by value, have been growing over the Zealand's export, by value, have been growing over the last Zealand's export, by value, have been growing over the last couple Zealand's export, by value, have been growing over the last couple of been growing over the last couple of years, been growing over the last couple of years, despite been growing over the last couple of years, despite the been growing over the last couple of years, despite the dairy been growing over the last couple of years, despite the dairy industry years, despite the dairy industry struggling years, despite the dairy industry struggling for years, despite the dairy industry struggling for a years, despite the dairy industry struggling for a two years, despite the dairy industry struggling for a two or years, despite the dairy industry struggling for a two or 3-year struggling for a two or 3-year period. struggling for a two or 3-year period. Now struggling for a two or 3-year period. Now with struggling for a two or 3-year period. Now with the struggling for a two or 3-year period. Now with the dairy struggling for a two or 3-year period. Now with the dairy sector period. Now with the dairy sector starting period. Now with the dairy sector starting to period. Now with the dairy sector starting to grow period. Now with the dairy sector starting to grow again period. Now with the dairy sector starting to grow again and period. Now with the dairy sector starting to grow again and prices starting to grow again and prices recovering, starting to grow again and prices recovering, I starting to grow again and prices recovering, I fully starting to grow again and prices recovering, I fully expect starting to grow again and prices recovering, I fully expect that recovering, I fully expect that maintenance recovering, I fully expect that recovering, recovering, I fully expect that maintenance of growth recovering, I fully expect that maintenance of growth and recovering, I fully expect that maintenance of growth and export maintenance of growth and export values maintenance of growth and export values to maintenance of growth and export values to continue. Question Question no. Question no. 4, Question no. 4, Phil Question no. 4, Phil Twyford. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Building My question is to the Minister for Building and My question is to the Minister for Building and Construction: for Building and Construction: Does for Building and Construction: Does he for Building and Construction: Does he agree for Building and Construction: Does he agree with for Building and Construction: Does he agree with the for Building and Construction: Does he agree with the statement Does he agree with the statement of Does he agree with the statement of the Does he agree with the statement of the Prime Does he agree with the statement of the Prime Minister Does he agree with the statement of the Prime Minister that of the Prime Minister that a of the Prime Minister that a shortage of the Prime Minister that a shortage of of the Prime Minister that a shortage of rentals a shortage of rentals is a shortage of rentals is "a a shortage of rentals is "a problem a shortage of rentals is "a problem of a shortage of rentals is "a problem of success"? 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Kiwis said then, I stand by the PM's full statement. is doing well. Kiwis are statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving in statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving in droves, statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving in droves, as statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving in droves, as they statement. is doing well. Kiwis are not leaving in droves, as they were, not leaving in droves, as they were, and not leaving in droves, as they were, and our not leaving in droves, as they were, and our population not leaving in droves, as they were, and our population is not leaving in droves, as they were, and our population is growing and our population is growing strongly. and our population is growing strongly. This and our population is growing strongly. This is and our population is growing strongly. This is putting and our population is growing strongly. This is putting pressure strongly. This is putting pressure on strongly. This is putting pressure strongly. strongly. This is putting pressure on the housing strongly. This is putting pressure on the housing market. strongly. This is putting pressure on the housing market. The strongly. This is putting pressure on the housing market. The good strongly. This is putting pressure on the housing market. The good news on the housing market. The good news is on the housing market. The good news is the on the housing market. The good news is the massive on the housing market. The good news is the massive growth on the housing market. The good news is the massive growth in on the housing market. The good news is the massive growth in home is the massive growth in home construction is the massive growth in home construction now is the massive growth in home construction now has is the massive growth in home construction now has building construction now has building activity construction now has building activity at construction now has building activity at record construction now has building activity at record levels construction now has building activity at record levels and construction now has building activity at record levels and a activity at record levels and a record activity at record levels and a record pipeline activity at record levels and a record pipeline of activity at record levels and a record pipeline of new activity at record levels and a record pipeline of new homes activity at record levels and a record pipeline of new homes coming record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream of record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream of over record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream of over 100,000 record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream of over 100,000 over record pipeline of new homes coming on-stream of over 100,000 over the on-stream of over 100,000 over the next on-stream of over 100,000 over the next three on-stream of over 100,000 over the next three years. next three years. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> supplementary <INTERRUPTION> supplementary question, <INTERRUPTION> supplementary question, Phil supplementary question, Phil Twyford. supplementary question, Phil Twyford. Does supplementary question, Phil Twyford. Does he supplementary question, Phil Twyford. Does he think supplementary question, Phil Twyford. Does he think it supplementary question, Phil Twyford. Does he think it acceptable Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that more Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that more than Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that more than 50% Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that more than 50% receiving Twyford. Does he think it acceptable that more than 50% receiving the that more than 50% receiving the accommodation that more than 50% receiving the accommodation supplement, that more than 50% receiving the accommodation supplement, spend that more than 50% receiving the accommodation supplement, spend more accommodation supplement, spend more than accommodation supplement, spend more supplementary accommodation supplement, spend more than half their accommodation supplement, spend more than half their income accommodation supplement, spend more than half their income on accommodation supplement, spend more than half their income on rent than half their income on rent according than half their income on rent according to than half their income on rent according to his than half their income on rent according to his ministry's than half their income on rent according to his ministry's own according to his ministry's own analysis? according to his ministry's own analysis? Mr according to his ministry's own analysis? Mr Speaker, according to his ministry's own analysis? Mr Speaker, I according to his ministry's own analysis? Mr Speaker, I would according to his ministry's own analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw the analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw the member's analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw the member's attention analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw the member's attention to analysis? Mr Speaker, I would draw the member's attention to Messa the member's attention to Messa University's the member's attention to Messa University's housing the member's attention to Messa University's housing affordability University's housing affordability measures University's housing affordability measures that University's housing affordability measures that show University's housing affordability measures that show in University's housing affordability measures that show in every University's housing affordability measures that show in every region measures that show in every region of measures that show in every region University's measures that show in every region of New Zealand, measures that show in every region of New Zealand, houses measures that show in every region of New Zealand, houses are measures that show in every region of New Zealand, houses are more of New Zealand, houses are more affordable of New Zealand, houses are more affordable now of New Zealand, houses are more affordable now than of New Zealand, houses are more affordable now than when of New Zealand, houses are more affordable now than when this affordable now than when this Government affordable now than when this Government came affordable now than when this Government came to affordable now than when this Government came to office. affordable now than when this Government came to office. Point affordable now than when this Government came to office. Point of Government came to office. Point of order, Government came to office. Point of order, Mr Government came to office. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Government came to office. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point Government came to office. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of Government came to office. Point of order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. The order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. The primary order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. The primary and order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. The primary and the order, Mr Speaker? Point of order. The primary and the supplementary The primary and the supplementary were The primary and the supplementary were about The primary and the supplementary were about rents? The primary and the supplementary were about rents? Order! The primary and the supplementary were about rents? Order! No, The primary and the supplementary were about rents? Order! No, I The primary and the supplementary were about rents? Order! No, I think were about rents? Order! No, I think it were about rents? Order! No, I think it was were about rents? Order! No, I think it was around were about rents? Order! No, I think it was around 50% were about rents? Order! No, I think it was around 50% of were about rents? Order! No, I think it was around 50% of accommodation it was around 50% of accommodation supplement it was around 50% of accommodation supplement being it was around 50% of accommodation supplement being spent it was around 50% of accommodation supplement being spent on it was around 50% of accommodation supplement being spent on rent. supplement being spent on rent. That's supplement being spent on rent. That's around supplement being spent on rent. That's around affordability. supplement being spent on rent. That's around affordability. And supplement being spent on rent. That's around affordability. And in That's around affordability. And in this That's around affordability. And in this case, That's around affordability. And in this case, I That's around affordability. And in this case, I think That's around affordability. And in this case, I think the That's around affordability. And in this case, I think the question That's around affordability. And in this case, I think the question has this case, I think the question has been this case, I think the question has been addressed. this case, I think the question has been addressed. I this case, I think the question has been addressed. I invite this case, I think the question has been addressed. I invite the this case, I think the question has been addressed. I invite the member been addressed. I invite the member to been addressed. I invite the member to consider been addressed. I invite the member to consider further been addressed. I invite the member to consider further supplementaries. to consider further supplementaries. Why to consider further supplementaries. Why does to consider further supplementaries. Why does he to consider further supplementaries. Why does he think to consider further supplementaries. Why does he think the to consider further supplementaries. Why does he think the cost to consider further supplementaries. Why does he think the cost of to consider further supplementaries. Why does he think the cost of rent Why does he think the cost of rent has Why does he think the cost of rent has been Why does he think the cost of rent has been outstripping Why does he think the cost of rent has been outstripping the Why does he think the cost of rent has been outstripping the growth Why does he think the cost of rent has been outstripping the growth in has been outstripping the growth in incomes, has been outstripping the growth in incomes, particularly has been outstripping the growth in incomes, particularly for has been outstripping the growth in incomes, particularly for those has been outstripping the growth in incomes, particularly for those on incomes, particularly for those on the incomes, particularly for those on the lowest incomes, particularly for those on the lowest wages incomes, particularly for those on the lowest wages as incomes, particularly for those on the lowest wages as shown incomes, particularly for those on the lowest wages as shown by incomes, particularly for those on the lowest wages as shown by his the lowest wages as shown by his ministry's the lowest wages as shown by his ministry's own the lowest wages as shown by his ministry's own analysis. the lowest wages as shown by his ministry's own analysis. Mr the lowest wages as shown by his ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask the ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask the member ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask the member to ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask the member to look ministry's own analysis. Mr Speaker, I would ask the member to look at I would ask the member to look at the I would ask the member to look at the record I would ask the member to look at the record of I would ask the member to look at the record of rent I would ask the member to look at the record of rent increases I would ask the member to look at the record of rent increases under the record of rent increases under the the record of rent increases under the previous the record of rent increases under the previous Labour the record of rent increases under the previous Labour administration the previous Labour administration because, the previous Labour administration because, actually, the previous Labour administration because, actually, rents the previous Labour administration because, actually, rents have the previous Labour administration because, actually, rents have not because, actually, rents have not gone because, actually, rents have not gone up because, actually, rents have not gone up as because, actually, rents have not gone up as quickly because, actually, rents have not gone up as quickly under because, actually, rents have not gone up as quickly under this gone up as quickly under this Government gone up as quickly under this Government and, gone up as quickly under this Government and, furthermore, gone up as quickly under this Government and, furthermore, I gone up as quickly under this Government and, furthermore, I would Government and, furthermore, I would draw Government and, furthermore, I would draw the Government and, furthermore, I would draw the member's Government and, furthermore, I would draw the member's attention Government and, furthermore, I would draw the member's attention to Government and, furthermore, I would draw the member's attention to the draw the member's attention to the Families draw the member's attention to the Families Package draw the member's attention to the Families Package in draw the member's attention to the Families Package in this draw the member's attention to the Families Package in this year's Families Package in this year's Budget Families Package in this year's Budget that put Families Package in this year's Budget that put a Families Package in this year's Budget that put a huge Families Package in this year's Budget that put a huge level Families Package in this year's Budget that put a huge level of Budget that put a huge level of support Budget that put a huge level of support and Budget that put a huge level of support and increased Budget that put a huge level of support and increased accommodation support and increased accommodation supplement support and increased accommodation supplement for support and increased accommodation supplement for those support and increased accommodation supplement for those families support and increased accommodation supplement for those families facing supplement for those families facing increased supplement for those families facing increased rent. supplement for those families facing increased rent. I supplement for those families facing increased rent. I note, supplement for those families facing increased rent. I note, with increased rent. I note, with concern, increased rent. I note, with increased increased rent. I note, with concern, members opposite increased rent. I note, with concern, members opposite voted concern, members opposite voted against concern, members opposite voted against those concern, members opposite voted against those supplementary against those supplementary accommodation against those supplementary accommodation increases. against those supplementary accommodation increases. If against those supplementary accommodation increases. If I against those supplementary accommodation increases. If I am accommodation increases. If I am willing accommodation increases. If I am willing to accommodation increases. If I am willing to acknowledge accommodation increases. If I am willing to acknowledge that accommodation increases. If I am willing to acknowledge that renters willing to acknowledge that renters went willing to acknowledge that renters willing willing to acknowledge that renters went up a willing to acknowledge that renters went up a lot willing to acknowledge that renters went up a lot under willing to acknowledge that renters went up a lot under the willing to acknowledge that renters went up a lot under the last willing to acknowledge that renters went up a lot under the last Labour went up a lot under the last Labour Government, went up a lot under the last Labour Government, will went up a lot under the last Labour Government, will he went up a lot under the last Labour Government, will he admit went up a lot under the last Labour Government, will he admit that went up a lot under the last Labour Government, will he admit that rents Government, will he admit that rents have Government, will he admit that rents willing Government, will he admit that rents have gone up Government, will he admit that rents have gone up even Government, will he admit that rents have gone up even more Government, will he admit that rents have gone up even more in Government, will he admit that rents have gone up even more in relation have gone up even more in relation to have gone up even more in relation to incomes have gone up even more in relation to incomes under have gone up even more in relation to incomes under National have gone up even more in relation to incomes under National over have gone up even more in relation to incomes under National over the to incomes under National over the last to incomes under National over the last nine to incomes under National over the last nine years, to incomes under National over the last nine years, and to incomes under National over the last nine years, and will to incomes under National over the last nine years, and will he to incomes under National over the last nine years, and will he explain last nine years, and will he explain to last nine years, and will he explain to renters last nine years, and will he explain to renters now last nine years, and will he explain to renters now what last nine years, and will he explain to renters now what he last nine years, and will he explain to renters now what he is last nine years, and will he explain to renters now what he is doing last nine years, and will he explain to renters now what he is doing to to renters now what he is doing to rein to renters now what he is doing to rein in to renters now what he is doing to rein in out-of-control to renters now what he is doing to rein in out-of-control rent rein in out-of-control rent increases? rein in out-of-control rent last rein in out-of-control rent increases? I would rein in out-of-control rent increases? I would draw rein in out-of-control rent increases? I would draw the rein in out-of-control rent increases? I would draw the member's increases? I would draw the member's attention increases? I would draw the member's attention to increases? I would draw the member's attention to the increases? I would draw the member's attention to the latest increases? I would draw the member's attention to the latest rental increases? I would draw the member's attention to the latest rental data. attention to the latest rental data. It attention to the latest rental data. It shows attention to the latest rental data. It shows that attention to the latest rental data. It shows that in attention to the latest rental data. It shows that in the attention to the latest rental data. It shows that in the market attention to the latest rental data. It shows that in the market of It shows that in the market of Christchurch, It shows that in the market of Christchurch, we're It shows that in the market of Christchurch, we're now It shows that in the market of Christchurch, we're now in It shows that in the market of Christchurch, we're now in the Christchurch, we're now in the second-straight Christchurch, we're now in the second-straight year Christchurch, we're now in the second-straight year of Christchurch, we're now in the second-straight year of rent second-straight year of rent declines, second-straight year of rent Christchurch, second-straight year of rent declines, and the second-straight year of rent declines, and the reason second-straight year of rent declines, and the reason that's declines, and the reason that's occurred declines, and the reason that's declines, declines, and the reason that's occurred in Christchurch declines, and the reason that's occurred in Christchurch is declines, and the reason that's occurred in Christchurch is because occurred in Christchurch is because the occurred in Christchurch is because the Government occurred in Christchurch is because the Government took occurred in Christchurch is because the Government took hold occurred in Christchurch is because the Government took hold of occurred in Christchurch is because the Government took hold of the the Government took hold of the planning the Government took hold of the planning system the Government took hold of the planning system released the Government took hold of the planning system released large planning system released large values planning system released large values of planning system released large values of land planning system released large values of land for planning system released large values of land for housing, planning system released large values of land for housing, and planning system released large values of land for housing, and that values of land for housing, and that is values of land for housing, and that is now values of land for housing, and that is now delivering values of land for housing, and that is now delivering benefits. values of land for housing, and that is now delivering benefits. The is now delivering benefits. The Auckland is now delivering benefits. The Auckland market is now delivering benefits. The Auckland market is is now delivering benefits. The Auckland market is larger, is now delivering benefits. The Auckland market is larger, but Auckland market is larger, but exactly Auckland market is larger, but exactly the Auckland market is larger, but exactly the same Auckland market is larger, but exactly the same approach Auckland market is larger, but exactly the same approach to Auckland market is larger, but exactly the same approach to proving exactly the same approach to proving to exactly the same approach to proving Auckland exactly the same approach to proving to work, as exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we see exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we see by exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we see by the exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we see by the growth exactly the same approach to proving to work, as we see by the growth in to work, as we see by the growth in home to work, as we see by the growth in home construction. home construction. Supplementary? home construction. Supplementary? Supplementary Supplementary? Supplementary question, Supplementary? Supplementary question, Phil Supplementary? Supplementary question, Phil Twyford. question, Phil Twyford. Given question, Phil Twyford. Given that question, Phil Twyford. Given that in question, Phil Twyford. Given that in so question, Phil Twyford. Given that in so many question, Phil Twyford. Given that in so many rental question, Phil Twyford. Given that in so many rental markets Given that in so many rental markets around Given that in so many rental markets around the Given that in so many rental markets around the country, Given that in so many rental markets around the country, property around the country, property speculation around the country, property speculation and around the country, property speculation and the around the country, property speculation and the shortage around the country, property speculation and the shortage of speculation and the shortage of housing speculation and the shortage of speculation speculation and the shortage of housing is responsible speculation and the shortage of housing is responsible for speculation and the shortage of housing is responsible for driving housing is responsible for driving up housing is responsible for driving up rents, housing is responsible for driving up rents, why housing is responsible for driving up rents, why won't housing is responsible for driving up rents, why won't he housing is responsible for driving up rents, why won't he tax up rents, why won't he tax speculators up rents, why won't he tax speculators and up rents, why won't he tax speculators and back up rents, why won't he tax speculators and back a up rents, why won't he tax speculators and back a massive up rents, why won't he tax speculators and back a massive house speculators and back a massive house building speculators and back a massive house building programme? speculators and back a massive house building programme? I speculators and back a massive house building programme? I love speculators and back a massive house building programme? I love the building programme? I love the hollow building programme? I love the hollow lines building programme? I love the hollow lines from building programme? I love the hollow lines from the building programme? I love the hollow lines from the member building programme? I love the hollow lines from the member that building programme? I love the hollow lines from the member that he hollow lines from the member that he is hollow lines from the member that he is going hollow lines from the member that he is going to hollow lines from the member that he is going to ban hollow lines from the member that he is going to ban speculation. hollow lines from the member that he is going to ban speculation. My is going to ban speculation. My simple is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge to is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge to him is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge to him is is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge to him is when is going to ban speculation. My simple challenge to him is when he simple challenge to him is when he goes simple challenge to him is when he goes along simple challenge to him is when he goes along to simple challenge to him is when he goes along to a simple challenge to him is when he goes along to a housing simple challenge to him is when he goes along to a housing auction, simple challenge to him is when he goes along to a housing auction, how goes along to a housing auction, how do goes along to a housing auction, how do you goes along to a housing auction, how do you determine goes along to a housing auction, how do you determine those goes along to a housing auction, how do you determine those that goes along to a housing auction, how do you determine those that are do you determine those that are genuine do you determine those that are genuine investors do you determine those that are genuine investors and do you determine those that are genuine investors and those do you determine those that are genuine investors and those that do you determine those that are genuine investors and those that are genuine investors and those that are speculators? genuine investors and those that are speculators? You genuine investors and those that are speculators? You can't. genuine investors and those that are speculators? You can't. It's genuine investors and those that are speculators? You can't. It's a speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. And speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. And it speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. And it just speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. And it just reinforces speculators? You can't. It's a nonsense. And it just reinforces the nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow sound nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow sound bytes nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow sound bytes from nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow sound bytes from that nonsense. And it just reinforces the hollow sound bytes from that member. hollow sound bytes from that member. I hollow sound bytes from that member. I contrast hollow sound bytes from that member. I contrast that hollow sound bytes from that member. I contrast that with hollow sound bytes from that member. I contrast that with the hollow sound bytes from that member. I contrast that with the substantive I contrast that with the substantive tax I contrast that with the substantive tax changes, I contrast that with the substantive tax changes, planning I contrast that with the substantive tax changes, planning changes I contrast that with the substantive tax changes, planning changes and tax changes, planning changes and others tax changes, planning changes and others that tax changes, planning changes and others that are tax changes, planning changes and others that are seeing tax changes, planning changes and others that are seeing a tax changes, planning changes and others that are seeing a record tax changes, planning changes and others that are seeing a record high others that are seeing a record high house others that are seeing a record high house build others that are seeing a record high house build and others that are seeing a record high house build and these others that are seeing a record high house build and these issues others that are seeing a record high house build and these issues being house build and these issues being addressed. Question Question no. Question no. 5, Question no. 5, Maureen Question no. 5, Maureen Pugh. Question no. 5, Maureen Pugh. Thank Question no. 5, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Question no. 5, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Question no. 5, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Tourism: of Tourism: What of Tourism: What announcements of Tourism: What announcements has of Tourism: What announcements has she of Tourism: What announcements has she made What announcements has she made about What announcements has she made about the What announcements has she made about the Government's What announcements has she made about the Government's Tourism about the Government's Tourism Infrastructure about the Government's Tourism Infrastructure Fund? The The Hon The Hon Paula The Hon Paula Bennett. The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, last The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, last week The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, last week I The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, last week I announced The Hon Paula Bennett. Mr Speaker, last week I announced that last week I announced that applications last week I announced that applications are last week I announced that applications are now last week I announced that applications are now open last week I announced that applications are now open for last week I announced that applications are now open for the applications are now open for the first applications are now open for the first round applications are now open for the first round of applications are now open for the first round of the applications are now open for the first round of the Government's applications are now open for the first round of the Government's new first round of the Government's new $100 first round of the Government's new $100 million-dollar first round of the Government's new $100 million-dollar tourism $100 million-dollar tourism infrastructure $100 million-dollar tourism $100 $100 million-dollar tourism infrastructure fund. We $100 million-dollar tourism infrastructure fund. We acknowledge infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that there infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that there is infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that there is some infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that there is some pressure infrastructure fund. We acknowledge that there is some pressure on that there is some pressure on infrastructure that there is some pressure on infrastructure and that there is some pressure on infrastructure and this that there is some pressure on infrastructure and this fund that there is some pressure on infrastructure and this fund is that there is some pressure on infrastructure and this fund is now infrastructure and this fund is now open infrastructure and this fund is now $100 infrastructure and this fund is now open for councils infrastructure and this fund is now open for councils to infrastructure and this fund is now open for councils to apply. open for councils to apply. Supplementary open for councils to apply. Supplementary question, open for councils to apply. Supplementary question, Maureen Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. How Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. How does Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. How does the Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. How does the fund Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. How does the fund work? Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Mr Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Mr Speaker, Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Mr Speaker, the Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Mr Speaker, the first Pugh. How does the fund work? Well, Mr Speaker, the first round Well, Mr Speaker, the first round will Well, Mr Speaker, the first round will focus Well, Mr Speaker, the first round will focus more Well, Mr Speaker, the first round will focus more on Well, Mr Speaker, the first round will focus more on helping will focus more on helping communities will focus more on helping communities in will focus more on helping communities in the will focus more on helping communities in the most will focus more on helping communities in the most immediate communities in the most immediate need communities in the most immediate need of communities in the most immediate need of -- communities in the most immediate need of -- assistance. communities in the most immediate need of -- assistance. For communities in the most immediate need of -- assistance. For the need of -- assistance. For the mid-size need of -- assistance. For the mid-size grant need of -- assistance. For the mid-size grant for need of -- assistance. For the mid-size grant for $5.8 need of -- assistance. For the mid-size grant for $5.8 million, need of -- assistance. For the mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able to mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able to get mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able to get 25 mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able to get 25 projects mid-size grant for $5.8 million, we were able to get 25 projects under were able to get 25 projects under way. were able to get 25 projects under way. We were able to get 25 projects under way. We will were able to get 25 projects under way. We will be were able to get 25 projects under way. We will be able were able to get 25 projects under way. We will be able to were able to get 25 projects under way. We will be able to have were able to get 25 projects under way. We will be able to have a way. We will be able to have a number way. We will be able to have a number of way. We will be able to have a number of projects, way. We will be able to have a number of projects, particularly way. We will be able to have a number of projects, particularly for number of projects, particularly for those number of projects, particularly for those council number of projects, particularly for those council who number of projects, particularly for those council who have number of projects, particularly for those council who have a number of projects, particularly for those council who have a low those council who have a low rate-payer those council who have a low rate-payer base those council who have a low rate-payer base but those council who have a low rate-payer base but high those council who have a low rate-payer base but high visitor rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. What rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. What other rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. What other support rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. What other support is rate-payer base but high visitor numbers. What other support is the numbers. What other support is the Government numbers. What other support is the Government providing numbers. What other support is the Government providing for numbers. What other support is the Government providing for tourism Government providing for tourism infrastructure Government providing for tourism infrastructure in Government providing for tourism infrastructure in the Government providing for tourism infrastructure in the regions? infrastructure in the regions? Mr infrastructure in the regions? Mr Speaker, infrastructure in the regions? Mr Speaker, Budget infrastructure in the regions? Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 infrastructure in the regions? Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a $76 Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a $76 million Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a $76 million fund Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a $76 million fund for Mr Speaker, Budget 2017 also included a $76 million fund for the included a $76 million fund for the Dept included a $76 million fund for the Dept of included a $76 million fund for the Dept of Conservation. included a $76 million fund for the Dept of Conservation. That included a $76 million fund for the Dept of Conservation. That is included a $76 million fund for the Dept of Conservation. That is to Dept of Conservation. That is to upgrade Dept of Conservation. That is to upgrade tourism Dept of Conservation. That is to upgrade tourism infrastructure Dept of Conservation. That is to upgrade tourism infrastructure which upgrade tourism infrastructure which is upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used by upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used by both upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used by both visitors upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used by both visitors and upgrade tourism infrastructure which is used by both visitors and New is used by both visitors and New Zealanders is used by both visitors and New Zealanders to is used by both visitors and New Zealanders to look is used by both visitors and New Zealanders to look at is used by both visitors and New Zealanders to look at some is used by both visitors and New Zealanders to look at some other Zealanders to look at some other short Zealanders to look at some other short and Zealanders to look at some other short and great Zealanders to look at some other short and great walks Zealanders to look at some other short and great walks throughout Zealanders to look at some other short and great walks throughout New short and great walks throughout New Zealand, short and great walks throughout New is short and great walks throughout New Zealand, to advertise short and great walks throughout New Zealand, to advertise that short and great walks throughout New Zealand, to advertise that there short and great walks throughout New Zealand, to advertise that there is Zealand, to advertise that there is more Zealand, to advertise that there is more than Zealand, to advertise that there is more than just Zealand, to advertise that there is more than just the Zealand, to advertise that there is more than just the Tongarua Zealand, to advertise that there is more than just the Tongarua crossing more than just the Tongarua crossing and more than just the Tongarua crossing and to more than just the Tongarua crossing and to acknowledge more than just the Tongarua crossing and to acknowledge the more than just the Tongarua crossing and to acknowledge the need more than just the Tongarua crossing and to acknowledge the need for and to acknowledge the need for toilet and to acknowledge the need for toilet facilities and to acknowledge the need for toilet facilities and and to acknowledge the need for toilet facilities and car and to acknowledge the need for toilet facilities and car parking. toilet facilities and car parking. Question toilet facilities and car parking. Question no. toilet facilities and car parking. Question no. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: of Transport: Does of Transport: Does he of Transport: Does he stand of Transport: Does he stand by of Transport: Does he stand by all of Transport: Does he stand by all his of Transport: Does he stand by all his statements? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes, Mr Speaker, yes, including Mr Speaker, yes, including my Mr Speaker, yes, including my statements Mr Speaker, yes, including my statements that Mr Speaker, yes, including my statements that Kennedy Mr Speaker, yes, including my statements that Kennedy Graham Mr Speaker, yes, including my statements that Kennedy Graham and statements that Kennedy Graham and David statements that Kennedy Graham and David Clendon statements that Kennedy Graham and David Clendon are statements that Kennedy Graham and David Clendon are men statements that Kennedy Graham and David Clendon are men of statements that Kennedy Graham and David Clendon are men of principle, David Clendon are men of principle, who David Clendon are men of principle, who don't David Clendon are men of principle, who don't accept David Clendon are men of principle, who don't accept dishonesty David Clendon are men of principle, who don't accept dishonesty in who don't accept dishonesty in public who don't accept dishonesty in public life. who don't accept dishonesty in public life. 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Does he stand his supplementary question. Does he stand by his supplementary question. Does he stand by his his supplementary question. Does he stand by his statement his supplementary question. Does he stand by his statement on his supplementary question. Does he stand by his statement on rail his supplementary question. Does he stand by his statement on rail to stand by his statement on rail to Auckland stand by his statement on rail to Auckland Airport stand by his statement on rail to Auckland Airport that stand by his statement on rail to Auckland Airport that "route Auckland Airport that "route protection Auckland Airport that "route protection will Auckland Airport that "route protection will be Auckland Airport that "route protection will be progressed Auckland Airport that "route protection will be progressed with protection will be progressed with urgency protection will be progressed with urgency to protection will be progressed with urgency to future protection will be progressed with urgency to future proof protection will be progressed with urgency to future proof options protection will be progressed with urgency to future proof options for urgency to future proof options for both urgency to future proof options for both advanced urgency to future proof options for both advanced bus urgency to future proof options for both advanced bus and urgency to future proof options for both advanced bus and light urgency to future proof options for both advanced bus and light rail. both advanced bus and light rail. 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Can he confirm that the urgent business case for Can he confirm that the urgent business case for protecting Can he confirm that the urgent business case for protecting the business case for protecting the light business case for protecting the light rail business case for protecting the light rail routes business case for protecting the light rail routes to business case for protecting the light rail routes to the business case for protecting the light rail routes to the airport business case for protecting the light rail routes to the airport was light rail routes to the airport was originally light rail routes to the airport was originally due light rail routes to the airport was originally due to light rail routes to the airport was originally due to be light rail routes to the airport was originally due to be completed light rail routes to the airport was originally due to be completed this originally due to be completed this year? originally due to be completed this year? 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I seek leave to table a briefing obtained under the Official briefing obtained under the Official Information briefing obtained under the Official Information Act briefing obtained under the Official Information Act that briefing obtained under the Official Information Act that confirms briefing obtained under the Official Information Act that confirms NZTA Information Act that confirms NZTA was Information Act that confirms NZTA was to Information Act that confirms NZTA was to urgently Information Act that confirms NZTA was to urgently progress Information Act that confirms NZTA was to urgently progress a Information Act that confirms NZTA was to urgently progress a business was to urgently progress a business case was to urgently progress a business case for was to urgently progress a business case for route was to urgently progress a business case for route protection was to urgently progress a business case for route protection in was to urgently progress a business case for route protection in 2017. case for route protection in 2017. Leave case for route protection in 2017. Leave is case for route protection in 2017. Leave is sought case for route protection in 2017. Leave is sought to case for route protection in 2017. Leave is sought to table case for route protection in 2017. Leave is sought to table that Leave is sought to table that particular Leave is sought to table that particular document. Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is there Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is there any particular document. Is there any objection? particular document. Is there any objection? Is particular document. Is there any objection? Is there particular document. Is there any objection? Is there any objection? Is there any objection? objection? Is there any objection? Is there any objection? There is objection? Is there any objection? There is none. objection? Is there any objection? There is none. It objection? Is there any objection? There is none. It can objection? Is there any objection? There is none. It can be objection? Is there any objection? There is none. It can be tabled. objection? Is there any objection? There is none. It can be tabled. Can There is none. It can be tabled. Can There is none. It can be tabled. Can There is none. It can be tabled. Can he confirm There is none. It can be tabled. Can he confirm that There is none. It can be tabled. Can he confirm that the There is none. It can be tabled. Can he confirm that the urgent There is none. It can be tabled. Can he confirm that the urgent business he confirm that the urgent business case he confirm that the urgent business case to he confirm that the urgent business case to protect he confirm that the urgent business case to protect the he confirm that the urgent business case to protect the route he confirm that the urgent business case to protect the route for case to protect the route for Auckland case to protect the route for Auckland Airport case to protect the route for Auckland Airport rail case to protect the route for Auckland Airport rail has case to protect the route for Auckland Airport rail has now case to protect the route for Auckland Airport rail has now been Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until the Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until the end Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until the end of Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until the end of next Auckland Airport rail has now been delayed until the end of next year? delayed until the end of next year? No, delayed until the end of next year? No, I delayed until the end of next year? No, I can't delayed until the end of next year? No, I can't confirm delayed until the end of next year? No, I can't confirm that. delayed until the end of next year? No, I can't confirm that. On delayed until the end of next year? No, I can't confirm that. On my No, I can't confirm that. On my expectations, No, I can't confirm that. On my expectations, the No, I can't confirm that. On my expectations, the NZTR No, I can't confirm that. On my expectations, the NZTR expect expectations, the NZTR expect them expectations, the NZTR expect expectations, the NZTR expect them to get expectations, the NZTR expect them to get on expectations, the NZTR expect them to get on with expectations, the NZTR expect them to get on with that expectations, the NZTR expect them to get on with that route to get on with that route protection. to get on with that route protection. What to get on with that route protection. What we to get on with that route protection. What we know to get on with that route protection. What we know is to get on with that route protection. What we know is that protection. What we know is that light protection. What we know is that light rail protection. What we know is that light rail and protection. What we know is that light rail and mass protection. What we know is that light rail and mass transit protection. What we know is that light rail and mass transit on protection. What we know is that light rail and mass transit on that light rail and mass transit on that route light rail and mass transit on that route isn't light rail and mass transit on that route isn't a light rail and mass transit on that route isn't a silver light rail and mass transit on that route isn't a silver bullet. light rail and mass transit on that route isn't a silver bullet. We light rail and mass transit on that route isn't a silver bullet. We know route isn't a silver bullet. We know that route isn't a silver bullet. We know that water route isn't a silver bullet. We know that water is route isn't a silver bullet. We know that water is doing route isn't a silver bullet. We know that water is doing a route isn't a silver bullet. We know that water is doing a fantastic route isn't a silver bullet. 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The people out of north-western busway. The people out of south north-western busway. The people out of south where north-western busway. The people out of south where there north-western busway. The people out of south where there is north-western busway. The people out of south where there is massive of south where there is massive growth of south where there is massive growth need of south where there is massive growth need Mill of south where there is massive growth need Mill Road of south where there is massive growth need Mill Road and of south where there is massive growth need Mill Road and that of south where there is massive growth need Mill Road and that is growth need Mill Road and that is why growth need Mill Road and that is why we growth need Mill Road and that is why we are growth need Mill Road and that is why we are doing growth need Mill Road and that is why we are doing all growth need Mill Road and that is why we are doing all of growth need Mill Road and that is why we are doing all of these why we are doing all of these projects. why we are doing all of these projects. Question why we are doing all of these projects. Question No.7. why why we why we are why we are doing why we are doing all why we are doing all of why we are doing all of these why we are doing all of these projects. why we are doing all of these projects. Question why we are doing all of these projects. Question No.7. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! I <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just need <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just need to <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just need to ask <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just need to ask the Order! I just need to ask the conversation Order! I just need to ask the conversation to Order! I just need to ask the conversation to cease Order! I just need to ask the conversation to cease so Order! I just need to ask the conversation to cease so the Order! 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Turning around because it was a cot case. Turning around southern because it was a cot case. Turning around southern DHB because it was a cot case. Turning around southern DHB was because it was a cot case. Turning around southern DHB was never because it was a cot case. 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The long-term track to sustainability. The Government long-term track to sustainability. The Government is long-term track to sustainability. The Government is working long-term track to sustainability. The Government is working on long-term track to sustainability. The Government is working on the The Government is working on the indicative The Government is working on the indicative business The Government is working on the indicative business case The Government is working on the indicative business case for The Government is working on the indicative business case for Dunedin indicative business case for Dunedin hospital. indicative business case for Dunedin hospital. The indicative business case for Dunedin hospital. The facility indicative business case for Dunedin hospital. The facility needs hospital. The facility needs hospital. The facility needs hospital. The facility needs upgrading and hospital. The facility needs upgrading and this hospital. The facility needs upgrading and this Government hospital. The facility needs upgrading and this Government is hospital. The facility needs upgrading hospital. The facility needs determined to make hospital. The facility needs determined to make that hospital. The facility needs determined to make that happen. determined to make that happen. Supplementary determined to make that happen. Supplementary question. determined to make that happen. Supplementary question. Does determined to make that happen. Supplementary question. Does he Supplementary question. Does he think Supplementary question. Does he think it Supplementary question. Does he think it is Supplementary question. Does he think it is acceptable Supplementary question. Does he think it is acceptable that Supplementary question. 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Out of all the patients referred from general patients referred from general practitioners patients referred from general practitioners for patients referred from general practitioners for first patients referred from general practitioners for first specialist practitioners for first specialist assessments practitioners for first specialist assessments 87% practitioners for first specialist assessments 87% see practitioners for first specialist assessments 87% see a practitioners for first specialist assessments 87% see a specialist, practitioners for first specialist assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned away assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned away and assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned away and another assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned away and another 8% assessments 87% see a specialist, 5% are turned away and another 8% have are turned away and another 8% have just are turned away and another 8% have just been are turned away and another 8% have just been inappropriately are turned away and another 8% have just been inappropriately referred just been inappropriately referred or just been inappropriately referred or their just been inappropriately referred or their time just been inappropriately referred or their time has just been inappropriately referred or their time has passed. just been inappropriately referred or their time has passed. 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Leave is sought to table that particular disputed. Leave is sought to table that particular open disputed. Leave is sought to table that particular open letter disputed. Leave is sought to table that particular open letter to that particular open letter to the that particular open letter to that particular open letter to the minister. Is that particular open letter to the minister. Is there that particular open letter to the minister. Is there any that particular open letter to the minister. Is there any objection that particular open letter to the minister. Is there any objection to minister. Is there any objection to it minister. Is there any objection to it being minister. Is there any objection to it being tabled? minister. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There minister. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is minister. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is not. minister. Is there any objection to it being tabled? There is not. 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Is he concerned that as part of the cost cutting measures at part of the cost cutting measures at Southern part of the cost cutting measures at Southern DHB part of the cost cutting measures at Southern DHB clinicians part of the cost cutting measures at Southern DHB clinicians are Southern DHB clinicians are improvising Southern DHB clinicians are improvising by Southern DHB clinicians are improvising by modifying Southern DHB clinicians are improvising by modifying their Southern DHB clinicians are improvising by modifying their own improvising by modifying their own equipment improvising by modifying their own equipment including improvising by modifying their own equipment including a improvising by modifying their own equipment including a pair improvising by modifying their own equipment including a pair of equipment including a pair of equipment including a pair of equipment including a pair of hardware store equipment including a pair of hardware store vice equipment including a pair of hardware store vice grips equipment including a pair of hardware store vice grips used equipment including a pair of hardware store vice grips used in hardware store vice grips used in surgery, hardware store vice grips used in surgery, one hardware store vice grips used in surgery, one of hardware store vice grips used in surgery, one of the surgery, one of the 112 non-registered surgery, one of the 112 non-registered medical surgery, one of the 112 non-registered medical devices non-registered medical devices removed non-registered medical devices removed from non-registered medical devices removed from southern non-registered medical devices removed from southern hospitals non-registered medical devices removed from southern hospitals by removed from southern hospitals by the removed from southern hospitals by the end removed from southern hospitals by the end of removed from southern hospitals by the end of last removed from southern hospitals by the end of last year? removed from southern hospitals by the end of last year? I removed from southern hospitals by the end of last year? I would removed from southern hospitals by the end of last year? I would have the end of last year? I would have the end of last year? I would have the end of last year? I would have to go the end of last year? I would have to go and the end of last year? I would have to go and check all the end of last year? I would have to go and check all that. the end of last year? I would have to go and check all that. I the end of last year? I would have to go and check all that. I would to go and check all that. I would expect to go and check all that. I would expect the to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to look to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to look into to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to look into it. to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to look into it. I to go and check all that. I would expect the CE to look into it. I am expect the CE to look into it. I am not expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware of expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware of the expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware of the claims expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware of the claims he expect the CE to look into it. I am not aware of the claims he is not aware of the claims he is making. not aware of the claims he is making. Supplementary not aware of the claims he is making. Supplementary question. not aware of the claims he is making. Supplementary question. In making. Supplementary question. In light making. Supplementary question. In light of making. Supplementary question. In light of his making. Supplementary question. In light of his acknowledgement making. Supplementary question. 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Has he seen Supplementary question. Has he seen a Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft of Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft of the Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft of the urology Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft of the urology report Supplementary question. Has he seen a draft of the urology report being a draft of the urology report being circulated a draft of the urology report being circulated at a draft of the urology report being circulated at Southern a draft of the urology report being circulated at Southern DHB? a draft of the urology report being circulated at Southern DHB? No. a draft of the urology report being circulated at Southern DHB? No. . a draft of the urology report being circulated at Southern DHB? No. . I circulated at Southern DHB? No. . I haven't. circulated at Southern DHB? No. . I haven't. Question circulated at Southern DHB? No. . I haven't. Question No.8. haven't. haven't. 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The across the count recovering over 100 lakes and rivers. The grants, lakes and rivers. The grants, totalling lakes and rivers. The grants, totalling $44 lakes and rivers. The grants, totalling $44 million, lakes and rivers. The grants, totalling $44 million, involve lakes and rivers. The grants, totalling $44 million, involve a totalling $44 million, involve a total totalling $44 million, involve a total investment totalling $44 million, involve a total investment of totalling $44 million, involve a total investment of $142 totalling $44 million, involve a total investment of $142 million total investment of $142 million total investment of $142 million total investment of $142 million with council total investment of $142 million with council and total investment of $142 million with council and other with council and other with council and other with council and other contributions. It with council and other contributions. It will with council and other contributions. 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It will fund fencing, riparian planting, sewerage riparian planting, sewerage reticulation, riparian planting, sewerage reticulation, water riparian planting, sewerage reticulation, water storage riparian planting, sewerage reticulation, water storage to reticulation, water storage to increased reticulation, water storage to increased minimum reticulation, water storage to increased minimum floss, reticulation, water storage to increased minimum floss, the increased minimum floss, the eradication increased minimum floss, the eradication of increased minimum floss, the eradication of water increased minimum floss, the eradication of water weeds, increased minimum floss, the eradication of water weeds, removal eradication of water weeds, removal eradication of water weeds, removal eradication of water weeds, removal of pest eradication of water weeds, removal of pest fish eradication of water weeds, removal of pest fish and eradication of water weeds, removal of pest fish and the eradication of water weeds, removal of pest fish and the restoration eradication of water weeds, removal of pest fish and the restoration of of pest fish and the restoration of marginal of pest fish and the restoration of marginal land of pest fish and the restoration of marginal land adjacent of pest fish and the restoration of marginal land adjacent to of pest fish and the restoration of marginal land adjacent to waterways. marginal land adjacent to waterways. Significant marginal land adjacent to waterways. Significant water marginal land adjacent to waterways. Significant water bodies marginal land adjacent to waterways. Significant water bodies included marginal land adjacent to waterways. Significant water bodies included in Significant water bodies included in the Significant water bodies included in the initiative Significant water bodies included in the initiative are Significant water bodies included in the initiative are a Significant water bodies included in the initiative are a river Significant water bodies included in the initiative are a river in the initiative are a river in Northland, the initiative are a river in Northland, lake the initiative are a river in Northland, lake Tarawia. the initiative are a river in Northland, lake Tarawia. The Northland, lake Tarawia. The Manawatu Northland, lake Tarawia. The Manawatu river. Northland, lake Tarawia. The Manawatu river. The Northland, lake Tarawia. The Manawatu river. 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Our Our Government Our Government has Our Government has committed Our Government has committed $201 Our Government has committed $201 million Our Government has committed $201 million over Our Government has committed $201 million over the Our Government has committed $201 million over the past Our Government has committed $201 million over the past nine Our Government has committed $201 million over the past nine years Our Government has committed $201 million over the past nine years as million over the past nine years as compared million over the past nine years as compared to million over the past nine years as compared to $29 million over the past nine years as compared to $29 million million over the past nine years as compared to $29 million over million over the past nine years as compared to $29 million over the compared to $29 million over the previous compared to $29 million over the previous nine compared to $29 million over the previous nine years, compared to $29 million over the previous nine years, ie, compared to $29 million over the previous nine years, ie, the previous nine years, ie, the investment previous nine years, ie, the investment has previous nine years, ie, the investment has increased previous nine years, ie, the investment has increased by previous nine years, ie, the investment has increased by six investment has increased by six fold. investment has increased by six fold. 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We've also committed a further $160 million committed a further $160 million committed a further $160 million committed a further $160 million through initiatives committed a further $160 million through initiatives like committed a further $160 million through initiatives like the through initiatives like the Whanganui, through initiatives like the Whanganui, Waikato through initiatives like the Whanganui, Waikato and through initiatives like the Whanganui, Waikato and other through initiatives like the Whanganui, Waikato and other rivers Whanganui, Waikato and other rivers from Whanganui, Waikato and other rivers from previous Whanganui, Waikato and other rivers from previous funds Whanganui, Waikato and other rivers from previous funds and from previous funds and treaty from previous funds and from previous funds and treaty settlements. Today's from previous funds and treaty settlements. Today's announcements settlements. Today's announcements bring settlements. Today's announcements bring the settlements. Today's announcements bring the total settlements. Today's announcements bring the total to settlements. Today's announcements bring the total to over settlements. Today's announcements bring the total to over $400 settlements. Today's announcements bring the total to over $400 million bring the total to over $400 million of bring the total to over $400 million of investments bring the total to over $400 million of investments in bring the total to over $400 million of investments in cleaner bring the total to over $400 million of investments in cleaner water bring the total to over $400 million of investments in cleaner water for of investments in cleaner water for New of investments in cleaner water for New Zealanders. of investments in cleaner water for New Zealanders. Supplementary New Zealanders. Supplementary question. New Zealanders. Supplementary question. How New Zealanders. Supplementary question. How do New Zealanders. 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The Government simful taint usely is putting programme? The Government simful taint usely is putting in programme? The Government simful taint usely is putting in place taint usely is putting in place stronger taint usely is putting in place stronger national taint usely is putting in place stronger national policy taint usely is putting in place stronger national policy direction stronger national policy direction stronger national policy direction stronger national policy direction and regulation. stronger national policy direction and regulation. Today stronger national policy direction and regulation. Today I stronger national policy direction and regulation. Today I have and regulation. Today I have launched and regulation. Today I have launched new and regulation. Today I have launched new forestry and regulation. Today I have launched new forestry regulations launched new forestry regulations with launched new forestry regulations with the launched new forestry regulations with the Associate launched new forestry regulations with the Associate Minister launched new forestry regulations with the Associate Minister of with the Associate Minister of Primary with the Associate Minister of Primary Industries, with the Associate Minister of Primary Industries, Louise with the Associate Minister of Primary Industries, Louise Upston, Primary Industries, Louise Upston, Primary Industries, Louise Upston, Primary Industries, Louise Upston, that will Primary Industries, Louise Upston, that will see Primary Industries, Louise Upston, that will see a Primary Industries, Louise Upston, that will see a substantial that will see a substantial reduction that will see a substantial reduction in that will see a substantial reduction in the that will see a substantial reduction in the amount that will see a substantial reduction in the amount of that will see a substantial reduction in the amount of impacts reduction in the amount of impacts of reduction in the amount of impacts of that reduction in the amount of impacts of that sector reduction in the amount of impacts of that sector on reduction in the amount of impacts of that sector on water reduction in the amount of impacts of that sector on water quality. reduction in the amount of impacts of that sector on water quality. 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We also have put in place national rules 56,000kms of fencing. We also have put in place national rules around put in place national rules around the put in place national rules around the ecological put in place national rules around the ecological health, put in place national rules around the ecological health, limiting the ecological health, limiting nutrients the ecological health, limiting nutrients like the ecological health, limiting nutrients like phosphates the ecological health, limiting nutrients like phosphates and nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, setting nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, setting a nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, setting a clear nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, setting a clear target nutrients like phosphates and nitrogen, setting a clear target of nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% of nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% of water nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% of water bodies nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% of water bodies being nitrogen, setting a clear target of 90% of water bodies being swimmable 90% of water bodies being swimmable by 90% of water bodies being swimmable by 2040. 90% of water bodies being swimmable by 2040. 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Do specific projects in partnership with iwi. Do any specific projects in partnership with iwi. Do any of specific projects in partnership with iwi. Do any of the specific projects in partnership with iwi. Do any of the fresh specific projects in partnership with iwi. Do any of the fresh water with iwi. Do any of the fresh water with iwi. Do any of the fresh water with iwi. Do any of the fresh water improvement projects with iwi. Do any of the fresh water improvement projects announced with iwi. Do any of the fresh water improvement projects announced today improvement projects announced today involve improvement projects announced today involve irrigation improvement projects announced today involve irrigation schemes? improvement projects announced today involve irrigation schemes? Yes. improvement projects announced today involve irrigation schemes? Yes. Two involve irrigation schemes? Yes. Two of involve irrigation schemes? Yes. Two of the involve irrigation schemes? Yes. 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I will further point out that the swimming standards that this the swimming standards that this Government the swimming standards that this Government has the swimming standards that this Government has proposed the swimming standards that this Government has proposed are the swimming standards that this Government has proposed are even Government has proposed are even tighter Government has proposed are even tighter than Government has proposed are even tighter than those Government has proposed are even tighter than those in Government has proposed are even tighter than those in the Government has proposed are even tighter than those in the only Government has proposed are even tighter than those in the only other tighter than those in the only other jurisdiction tighter than those in the only other jurisdiction that tighter than those in the only other jurisdiction that grades tighter than those in the only other jurisdiction that grades them, tighter than those in the only other jurisdiction that grades them, in jurisdiction that grades them, in Europe, jurisdiction that grades them, in Europe, and jurisdiction that grades them, in Europe, and represents jurisdiction that grades them, in Europe, and represents a jurisdiction that grades them, in Europe, and represents a substantive Europe, and represents a substantive step Europe, and represents a substantive Europe, Europe, and represents a substantive step forward for Europe, and represents a substantive step forward for New Europe, and represents a substantive step forward for New Zealand. step forward for New Zealand. Question step forward for New Zealand. Question No.9. Question Question No.9. 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Will she support the petitions supplementary question. Will she support the petitions of supplementary question. Will she support the petitions of 20,000 support the petitions of 20,000 people support the petitions of 20,000 people seeking support the petitions of 20,000 people seeking to support the petitions of 20,000 people seeking to protect support the petitions of 20,000 people seeking to protect mount support the petitions of 20,000 people seeking to protect mount Kaur people seeking to protect mount Kaur Ange people seeking to protect mount Kaur Ange hackie people seeking to protect mount Kaur Ange hackie from people seeking to protect mount Kaur Ange hackie from mining people seeking to protect mount Kaur Ange hackie from mining by Ange hackie from mining by advocating Ange hackie from mining by advocating for Ange hackie from mining by advocating for its Ange hackie from mining by advocating for its inclusion Ange hackie from mining by advocating for its inclusion in advocating for its inclusion in schedule advocating for its inclusion in schedule 4 advocating for its inclusion in schedule 4 of advocating for its inclusion in schedule 4 of the advocating for its inclusion in schedule 4 of the Crown advocating for its inclusion in schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, I schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, I will schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, I will not. schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, I will not. . schedule 4 of the Crown Minerals Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Does Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Does she Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Does she think Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Does she think that Act? No, I will not. . Supplementary question. Does she think that the question. Does she think that the 50,000 question. Does she think that the 50,000 people question. Does she think that the 50,000 people who question. Does she think that the 50,000 people who march question. Does she think that the 50,000 people who march down question. Does she think that the 50,000 people who march down Queen 50,000 people who march down Queen Street 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 2010 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 2010 to 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 2010 to oppose 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 2010 to oppose mining 50,000 people who march down Queen Street in 2010 to oppose mining on Street in 2010 to oppose mining on conservation Street in 2010 to oppose mining on conservation land Street in 2010 to oppose mining on conservation land have now Street in 2010 to oppose mining on conservation land have now changed conservation land have now changed their conservation land have now changed their minds conservation land have now changed their minds and conservation land have now changed their minds and welcomed conservation land have now changed their minds and welcomed mining conservation land have now changed their minds and welcomed mining in their minds and welcomed mining in pressure their minds and welcomed mining in pressure use their minds and welcomed mining in pressure use places their minds and welcomed mining in pressure use places like their minds and welcomed mining in pressure use places like the pressure use places like the Coromandel pressure use places like the Coromandel forest pressure use places like the Coromandel forest park? pressure use places like the Coromandel forest park? 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This is not such schedule 4 around schedule 4 land. This is not such schedule 4 land. around schedule 4 land. This is not such schedule 4 land. It around schedule 4 land. This is not such schedule 4 land. It is around schedule 4 land. This is not such schedule 4 land. It is not such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It is such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It is land such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It is land that such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It is land that has such schedule 4 land. It is not protected. It is land that has been protected. It is land that has been mined protected. It is land that has been mined for protected. It is land that has been mined for more protected. It is land that has been mined for more than protected. It is land that has been mined for more than 100 protected. It is land that has been mined for more than 100 years protected. It is land that has been mined for more than 100 years and protected. It is land that has been mined for more than 100 years and is mined for more than 100 years and is now mined for more than 100 years and is now in mined for more than 100 years and is now in a mined for more than 100 years and is now in a temporary mined for more than 100 years and is now in a temporary permit mined for more than 100 years and is now in a temporary permit and mined for more than 100 years and is now in a temporary permit and a now in a temporary permit and a temporary now in a temporary permit and a temporary closure now in a temporary permit and a temporary closure for now in a temporary permit and a temporary closure for three now in a temporary permit and a temporary closure for three months. temporary closure for three months. The temporary closure for three months. The member temporary closure for three months. The member is temporary closure for three months. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: of Immigration: Is of Immigration: Is it of Immigration: Is it acceptable of Immigration: Is it acceptable that, of Immigration: Is it acceptable that, after of Immigration: Is it acceptable that, after nine Is it acceptable that, after nine years Is it acceptable that, after nine years of Is it acceptable that, after nine years of a Is it acceptable that, after nine years of a National-led Is it acceptable that, after nine years of a National-led Government, years of a National-led Government, there years of a National-led Government, there are years of a National-led Government, there are business years of a National-led Government, there are business owners years of a National-led Government, there are business owners charging there are business owners charging thousands there are business owners charging thousands of there are business owners charging thousands of dollars there are business owners charging thousands of dollars for there are business owners charging thousands of dollars for jobs there are business owners charging thousands of dollars for jobs that thousands of dollars for jobs that lead thousands of dollars for jobs that lead to thousands of dollars for jobs that lead to residence? No No illegal No illegal activity No illegal activity by No illegal activity by any No illegal activity by any party No illegal activity by any party in No illegal activity by any party in relation No illegal activity by any party in relation to No illegal activity by any party in relation to immigration No illegal activity by any party in relation to immigration is relation to immigration is relation to immigration is relation to immigration is acceptable at relation to immigration is acceptable at any relation to immigration is acceptable at any time. relation to immigration is acceptable at any time. That's relation to immigration is acceptable at any time. That's why acceptable at any time. That's why the acceptable at any time. That's why the Government acceptable at any time. That's why the Government has acceptable at any time. That's why the Government has invested acceptable at any time. That's why the Government has invested heavily the Government has invested heavily in the Government has invested heavily in both the Government has invested heavily in both Immigration the Government has invested heavily in both Immigration NZ the Government has invested heavily in both Immigration NZ and the Government has invested heavily in both Immigration NZ and the in both Immigration NZ and the Labour in both Immigration NZ and the Labour inspectorate in both Immigration NZ and the Labour inspectorate to in both Immigration NZ and the Labour inspectorate to stamp in both Immigration NZ and the Labour inspectorate to stamp out Labour inspectorate to stamp out this Labour inspectorate to stamp out this kind Labour inspectorate to stamp out this kind of Labour inspectorate to stamp out this kind of behaviour. this kind of behaviour. Unfortunately this kind of behaviour. Unfortunately where this kind of behaviour. Unfortunately where there this kind of behaviour. Unfortunately where there are this kind of behaviour. Unfortunately where there are rules Unfortunately where there are rules Unfortunately where there are rules Unfortunately where there are rules a small Unfortunately where there are rules a small number Unfortunately where there are rules a small number of Unfortunately where there are rules a small number of people Unfortunately where there are rules a small number of people will a small number of people will a small number of people will a small number of people will inevitably try a small number of people will inevitably try to a small number of people will inevitably try to bend a small number of people will inevitably try to bend them. a small number of people will inevitably try to bend them. Our inevitably try to bend them. Our improvements inevitably try to bend them. Our improvements mean inevitably try to bend them. Our improvements mean there inevitably try to bend them. Our improvements mean there are inevitably try to bend them. Our improvements mean there are far improvements mean there are far fewer improvements mean there are far fewer problems improvements mean there are far fewer problems now improvements mean there are far fewer problems now than improvements mean there are far fewer problems now than there improvements mean there are far fewer problems now than there have fewer problems now than there have been fewer problems now than there have been in fewer problems now than there have been in the fewer problems now than there have been in the past. fewer problems now than there have been in the past. Why fewer problems now than there have been in the past. Why after fewer problems now than there have been in the past. Why after nine been in the past. Why after nine years been in the past. Why after nine years of been in the past. Why after nine years of National been in the past. Why after nine years of National Government been in the past. Why after nine years of National Government does years of National Government does Immigration years of National Government does Immigration NZ years of National Government does Immigration NZ say years of National Government does Immigration NZ say that years of National Government does Immigration NZ say that some years of National Government does Immigration NZ say that some PTEs Immigration NZ say that some PTEs enter Immigration NZ say that some PTEs enter agreements Immigration NZ say that some PTEs enter agreements with Immigration NZ say that some PTEs enter agreements with dodgy enter agreements with dodgy employers enter agreements with dodgy employers who enter agreements with dodgy employers who recruit enter agreements with dodgy employers who recruit students enter agreements with dodgy employers who recruit students to employers who recruit students to work employers who recruit students to work at employers who recruit students to work at their employers who recruit students to work at their business employers who recruit students to work at their business in employers who recruit students to work at their business in order employers who recruit students to work at their business in order to work at their business in order to sell work at their business in order to sell these work at their business in order to sell these students work at their business in order to sell these students jobs work at their business in order to sell these students jobs when work at their business in order to sell these students jobs when they sell these students jobs when they are sell these students jobs when they are ready sell these students jobs when they are ready to sell these students jobs when they are ready to apply sell these students jobs when they are ready to apply for sell these students jobs when they are ready to apply for work sell these students jobs when they are ready to apply for work and are ready to apply for work and residence are ready to apply for work and residence visas? are ready to apply for work and residence visas? As are ready to apply for work and residence visas? As I are ready to apply for work and residence visas? As I said, are ready to apply for work and residence visas? As I said, when residence visas? As I said, when there residence visas? As I said, when there are residence visas? As I said, when there are more residence visas? As I said, when there are more than residence visas? As I said, when there are more than 100,000 there are more than 100,000 there are more than 100,000 there are more than 100,000 international students there are more than 100,000 international students in there are more than 100,000 international students in our international students in our second-largest international students in our second-largest service international students in our second-largest service export second-largest service export earner, second-largest service export earner, there second-largest service export earner, there will second-largest service export earner, there will always second-largest service export earner, there will always be second-largest service export earner, there will always be a second-largest service export earner, there will always be a small earner, there will always be a small number earner, there will always be a small number of earner, there will always be a small number of people earner, there will always be a small number of people who earner, there will always be a small number of people who try to earner, there will always be a small number of people who try to bend earner, there will always be a small number of people who try to bend the number of people who try to bend the rules. number of people who try to bend the rules. That number of people who try to bend the rules. That is number of people who try to bend the rules. That is entirely rules. That is entirely rules. That is entirely rules. That is entirely unacceptable, which rules. That is entirely unacceptable, which is rules. That is entirely unacceptable, which is why rules. That is entirely unacceptable, which is why this unacceptable, which is why this unacceptable, which is why this unacceptable, which is why this Government has unacceptable, which is why this Government has put unacceptable, which is why this Government has put in unacceptable, which is why this Government has put in place unacceptable, which is why this Government has put in place a unacceptable, which is why this Government has put in place a number Government has put in place a number of Government has put in place a number of measures Government has put in place a number of measures to Government has put in place a number of measures to prevent Government has put in place a number of measures to prevent and Government has put in place a number of measures to prevent and prosecute of measures to prevent and prosecute that of measures to prevent and prosecute that behaviour. of measures to prevent and prosecute that behaviour. Why of measures to prevent and prosecute that behaviour. Why after of measures to prevent and prosecute that behaviour. Why after nine of measures to prevent and prosecute that behaviour. Why after nine years that behaviour. Why after nine years of that behaviour. Why after nine years of a that behaviour. Why after nine years of a national that behaviour. Why after nine years of a national life that behaviour. Why after nine years of a national life led that behaviour. Why after nine years of a national life led Government that behaviour. Why after nine years of a national life led Government is of a national life led Government is it of a national life led Government is it possible of a national life led Government is it possible for of a national life led Government is it possible for a of a national life led Government is it possible for a PTE of a national life led Government is it possible for a PTE to of a national life led Government is it possible for a PTE to bus of a national life led Government is it possible for a PTE to bus their it possible for a PTE to bus their international it possible for a PTE to bus their international students it possible for a PTE to bus their international students to it possible for a PTE to bus their international students to kiwifruit international students to kiwifruit orchards international students to kiwifruit orchards to international students to kiwifruit orchards to work international students to kiwifruit orchards to work five international students to kiwifruit orchards to work five days' international students to kiwifruit orchards to work five days' a international students to kiwifruit orchards to work five days' a week orchards to work five days' a week for orchards to work five days' a week for $5 orchards to work five days' a week for $5 an orchards to work five days' a week for $5 an hour? orchards to work five days' a week for $5 an hour? 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Is he concerned that by opposing Labour's concerned that by opposing Labour's policy concerned that by opposing Labour's policy of concerned that by opposing Labour's policy of tightening concerned that by opposing Labour's policy of tightening up concerned that by opposing Labour's policy of tightening up on concerned that by opposing Labour's policy of tightening up on student policy of tightening up on student visas policy of tightening up on student visas to policy of tightening up on student visas to weed policy of tightening up on student visas to weed out policy of tightening up on student visas to weed out those policy of tightening up on student visas to weed out those PTEs policy of tightening up on student visas to weed out those PTEs that visas to weed out those PTEs that exist visas to weed out those PTEs that exist solely visas to weed out those PTEs that exist solely to visas to weed out those PTEs that exist solely to exploit visas to weed out those PTEs that exist solely to exploit their exist solely to exploit their students exist solely to exploit their students and exist solely to exploit their students and create exist solely to exploit their students and create a exist solely to exploit their students and create a back exist solely to exploit their students and create a back door exist solely to exploit their students and create a back door to students and create a back door to residency students and create a back door to residency that students and create a back door to residency that he students and create a back door to residency that he gives students and create a back door to residency that he gives the residency that he gives the impression residency that he gives the impression that residency that he gives the impression that National residency that he gives the impression that National sees impression that National sees impression that National sees impression that National sees international students impression that National sees international students as impression that National sees international students as cash impression that National sees international students as cash cows? international students as cash cows? 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This Government is not interested in This Government is not interested in any This Government is not interested in any lazy This Government is not interested in any lazy policies This Government is not interested in any lazy policies that This Government is not interested in any lazy policies that would any lazy policies that would arbitrarily any lazy policies that would arbitrarily cut any lazy policies that would arbitrarily cut immigration any lazy policies that would arbitrarily cut immigration because arbitrarily cut immigration because arbitrarily cut immigration because arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous reasons arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous reasons and, arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous reasons and, at arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous reasons and, at the arbitrarily cut immigration because of populous reasons and, at the same of populous reasons and, at the same time, of populous reasons and, at the same time, tar of populous reasons and, at the same time, tar every of populous reasons and, at the same time, tar every Yea of populous reasons and, at the same time, tar every Yea tertiary time, tar every Yea tertiary education time, tar every Yea tertiary education provider time, tar every Yea tertiary education provider with time, tar every Yea tertiary education provider with the time, tar every Yea tertiary education provider with the -- education provider with the -- private education provider with the -- private tertiary education provider with the -- private tertiary education education provider with the -- private tertiary education provider private tertiary education provider private tertiary education provider private tertiary education provider with the private tertiary education provider with the same private tertiary education provider with the same brush. private tertiary education provider with the same brush. 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Yes delivering education to those international students. Yes number international students. Yes number 11. 11. Supplementary Supplementary question. Supplementary question. Sorry, Supplementary question. Sorry, primary Supplementary question. Sorry, primary question. Supplementary question. Sorry, primary question. I Supplementary question. Sorry, primary question. I got Supplementary question. Sorry, primary question. I got ahead Supplementary question. Sorry, primary question. I got ahead of primary question. I got ahead of 11. primary question. I got ahead of myself. It will primary question. I got ahead of myself. It will happen primary question. I got ahead of myself. It will happen in primary question. I got ahead of myself. It will happen in this myself. It will happen in this campaign. myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap Order! myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap Order! I myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap Order! I got myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap Order! I got ahead myself. It will happen in this campaign. trap Order! I got ahead of campaign. trap Order! I got ahead of myself. myself. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Immigration: of Immigration: Does of Immigration: Does his of Immigration: Does his Government Does his Government take Does his Government take immigration Does his Government take immigration fraud take immigration fraud seriously; take immigration fraud seriously; if take immigration fraud seriously; if so, take immigration fraud seriously; if so, how? This This Government This Government takes This Government takes any This Government takes any kind This Government takes any kind of This Government takes any kind of visa This Government takes any kind of visa or This Government takes any kind of visa or immigration This Government takes any kind of visa or immigration fraud This Government takes any kind of visa or immigration fraud very visa or immigration fraud very visa or immigration fraud very visa or immigration fraud very seriously. We visa or immigration fraud very seriously. We have visa or immigration fraud very seriously. We have done visa or immigration fraud very seriously. We have done this visa or immigration fraud very seriously. We have done this by seriously. We have done this by investing seriously. We have done this by investing heavily seriously. We have done this by investing heavily in seriously. We have done this by investing heavily in verification investing heavily in verification and investing heavily in verification and risk investing heavily in verification and risk resources, investing heavily in verification and risk resources, including investing heavily in verification and risk resources, including a and risk resources, including a world-class and risk resources, including a world-class identity and risk resources, including a world-class identity management world-class identity management system world-class identity management system that world-class identity management system that enables world-class identity management system that enables face world-class identity management system that enables face photos world-class identity management system that enables face photos and system that enables face photos and fingerprint system that enables face photos and fingerprint information system that enables face photos and fingerprint information from fingerprint information from applications fingerprint information from applications to fingerprint information from applications to be fingerprint information from applications to be captured fingerprint information from applications to be captured online applications to be captured online and applications to be captured online and automatically applications to be captured online and automatically matched applications to be captured online and automatically matched against and automatically matched against and automatically matched against and automatically matched against personal data and automatically matched against personal data held and automatically matched against personal data held by and automatically matched against personal data held by INZ. and automatically matched against personal data held by INZ. We and automatically matched against personal data held by INZ. We also personal data held by INZ. We also amended personal data held by INZ. We also amended the personal data held by INZ. We also amended the Immigration personal data held by INZ. We also amended the Immigration Act personal data held by INZ. We also amended the Immigration Act in personal data held by INZ. We also amended the Immigration Act in 2015 amended the Immigration Act in 2015 so amended the Immigration Act in 2015 so that amended the Immigration Act in 2015 so that residents amended the Immigration Act in 2015 so that residents classed amended the Immigration Act in 2015 so that residents classed visa so that residents classed visa holders so that residents classed visa holders are so that residents classed visa holders are liable so that residents classed visa holders are liable for so that residents classed visa holders are liable for deportation holders are liable for deportation where holders are liable for deportation where it holders are liable for deportation where it is holders are liable for deportation where it is established holders are liable for deportation where it is established that holders are liable for deportation where it is established that any holders are liable for deportation where it is established that any of where it is established that any of the where it is established that any of the information where it is established that any of the information provided where it is established that any of the information provided in where it is established that any of the information provided in relation the information provided in relation to the information provided in relation to their the information provided in relation to their application the information provided in relation to their application was the information provided in relation to their application was fraudulent, to their application was fraudulent, false, to their application was fraudulent, false, misleading to their application was fraudulent, false, misleading or to their application was fraudulent, false, misleading or any to their application was fraudulent, false, misleading or any information false, misleading or any information false, misleading or any information false, misleading or any information was withheld. false, misleading or any information was withheld. Supplementary was withheld. Supplementary question. was withheld. Supplementary question. If was withheld. Supplementary question. If any was withheld. Supplementary question. If any of was withheld. Supplementary question. If any of that was withheld. Supplementary question. If any of that the question. If any of that the remotely question. If any of that the remotely true, question. If any of that the remotely true, what question. If any of that the remotely true, what is question. If any of that the remotely true, what is his question. If any of that the remotely true, what is his priority remotely true, what is his priority to remotely true, what is his priority to manage remotely true, what is his priority to manage fraud remotely true, what is his priority to manage fraud in remotely true, what is his priority to manage fraud in the remotely true, what is his priority to manage fraud in the Mumbai remotely true, what is his priority to manage fraud in the Mumbai and to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi offices to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi offices and to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi offices and why to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi offices and why has to manage fraud in the Mumbai and New Delhi offices and why has he New Delhi offices and why has he excluded New Delhi offices and why has he excluded the New Delhi offices and why has he excluded the Manila, New Delhi offices and why has he excluded the Manila, Beijing, excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai and excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong offices excluded the Manila, Beijing, Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates for Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates for March Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates for March 2017 Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates for March 2017 to Shanghai and Hong Kong offices where fraud updates for March 2017 to his fraud updates for March 2017 to his departments fraud updates for March 2017 to his departments identified fraud updates for March 2017 to his departments identified fraudulent departments identified fraudulent document departments identified fraudulent document concerns departments identified fraudulent document concerns regarding departments identified fraudulent document concerns regarding hundreds document concerns regarding hundreds and document concerns regarding hundreds and hundreds document concerns regarding hundreds and hundreds of document concerns regarding hundreds and hundreds of applications? and hundreds of applications? Immigration and hundreds of applications? Immigration NZ and hundreds of applications? Immigration NZ has and hundreds of applications? Immigration NZ has been and hundreds of applications? Immigration NZ has been working and hundreds of applications? Immigration NZ has been working very Immigration NZ has been working very hard Immigration NZ has been working very hard in Immigration NZ has been working very hard in that Immigration NZ has been working very hard in that Mumbai Immigration NZ has been working very hard in that Mumbai market, hard in that Mumbai market, particularly hard in that Mumbai market, particularly in hard in that Mumbai market, particularly in the hard in that Mumbai market, particularly in the high hard in that Mumbai market, particularly in the high risk hard in that Mumbai market, particularly in the high risk areas particularly in the high risk areas in particularly in the high risk areas in the particularly in the high risk areas in the north particularly in the high risk areas in the north of particularly in the high risk areas in the north of India. particularly in the high risk areas in the north of India. I particularly in the high risk areas in the north of India. I stress, particularly in the high risk areas in the north of India. I stress, the in the north of India. I stress, the Indian in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market is in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market is both in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market is both a in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market is both a valuable in the north of India. I stress, the Indian market is both a valuable one Indian market is both a valuable one for Indian market is both a valuable one for export Indian market is both a valuable one for export education Indian market is both a valuable one for export education but Indian market is both a valuable one for export education but it Indian market is both a valuable one for export education but it also for export education but it also carries for export education but it also carries risks for export education but it also carries risks not for export education but it also carries risks not only for export education but it also carries risks not only to for export education but it also carries risks not only to New carries risks not only to New Zealand carries risks not only to New Zealand but carries risks not only to New Zealand but a carries risks not only to New Zealand but a number carries risks not only to New Zealand but a number of carries risks not only to New Zealand but a number of countries Zealand but a number of countries that Zealand but a number of countries that trade Zealand but a number of countries that trade in that trade in international that trade in that trade in international education. We that trade in international education. We have that trade in international education. We have seen that trade in international education. We have seen significant education. We have seen significant reductions education. We have seen significant reductions in education. We have seen significant reductions in the education. We have seen significant reductions in the number education. We have seen significant reductions in the number of reductions in the number of fraudulent reductions in the number of fraudulent visas, reductions in the number of fraudulent visas, the reductions in the number of fraudulent visas, the decline reductions in the number of fraudulent visas, the decline rates fraudulent visas, the decline rates are fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now starting fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now starting to fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now starting to drop fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now starting to drop and fraudulent visas, the decline rates are now starting to drop and there are now starting to drop and there has are now starting to drop and there has been are now starting to drop and there has been a are now starting to drop and there has been a 90% are now starting to drop and there has been a 90% reduction are now starting to drop and there has been a 90% reduction in are now starting to drop and there has been a 90% reduction in fact has been a 90% reduction in fact year has been a 90% reduction in fact year on has been a 90% reduction in fact year on year has been a 90% reduction in fact year on year in has been a 90% reduction in fact year on year in terms has been a 90% reduction in fact year on year in terms of has been a 90% reduction in fact year on year in terms of fraud year on year in terms of fraud detection. year on year in terms of fraud detection. How year on year in terms of fraud detection. How can year on year in terms of fraud detection. How can a year on year in terms of fraud detection. How can a self-respecting detection. How can a self-respecting first detection. How can a self-respecting first world detection. How can a self-respecting first world country detection. How can a self-respecting first world country like detection. How can a self-respecting first world country like New detection. How can a self-respecting first world country like New Zealand first world country like New Zealand have first world country like New Zealand have a first world country like New Zealand have a Mr first world country like New Zealand have a Mr Big first world country like New Zealand have a Mr Big and first world country like New Zealand have a Mr Big and old first world country like New Zealand have a Mr Big and old boys first world country like New Zealand have a Mr Big and old boys club have a Mr Big and old boys club controlling have a Mr Big and old boys club controlling the have a Mr Big and old boys club controlling the Indian have a Mr Big and old boys club controlling the Indian student controlling the Indian student market, controlling the Indian student market, exporting controlling the Indian student market, exporting Indian controlling the Indian student market, exporting Indian students controlling the Indian student market, exporting Indian students as market, exporting Indian students as cheap market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour and market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour and charging market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour and charging them market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour and charging them up market, exporting Indian students as cheap labour and charging them up to cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to get cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to get a cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to get a job. cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to get a job. Why cheap labour and charging them up to 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do the 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do the world 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do the world a 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do the world a favour 20,000 just to get a job. Why don't you do the world a favour and you do the world a favour and resign? I I would I would encourage I would encourage the I would encourage the member, I would encourage the member, if I would encourage the member, if he I would encourage the member, if he has I would encourage the member, if he has any I would encourage the member, if he has any information I would encourage the member, if he has any information other I would encourage the member, if he has any information other than I would encourage the member, if he has any information other than that has any information other than that which has any information other than that which he has any information other than that which he got has any information other than that which he got from has any information other than that which he got from the has any information other than that which he got from the Radio has any information other than that which he got from the Radio NZ which he got from the Radio NZ website which he got from the Radio NZ website to which he got from the Radio NZ website to provide which he got from the Radio NZ website to provide it which he got from the Radio NZ website to provide it to which he got from the Radio NZ website to provide it to the website to provide it to the immigration website to provide it to the immigration authorities. website to provide it to the immigration authorities. I website to provide it to the immigration authorities. I frankly, immigration authorities. I frankly, immigration authorities. I frankly, immigration authorities. I frankly, won't be immigration authorities. I frankly, won't be holding immigration authorities. I frankly, won't be holding my immigration authorities. I frankly, won't be holding my breath. immigration authorities. I frankly, won't be holding my breath. Question won't be holding my breath. Question No.12. No.12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister for My question is to the Associate Minister for Primary My question is to the Associate Minister for Primary Industries: Minister for Primary Industries: What Minister for Primary Industries: What recent Minister for Primary Industries: What recent announcement What recent announcement has What recent announcement has the What recent announcement has the Government What recent announcement has the Government made has the Government made regarding has the Government made regarding forestry has the Government made regarding forestry regulations? 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Zealand's $1.8 million hectares of plantation forestry. Forestry Zealand's $1.8 million hectares of plantation forestry. Forestry is Zealand's $1.8 million hectares of plantation forestry. Forestry is New plantation forestry. Forestry is New Zealand's plantation forestry. Forestry is New Zealand's third plantation forestry. Forestry is New Zealand's third largest plantation forestry. Forestry is New Zealand's third largest primary Zealand's third largest primary industry Zealand's third largest primary industry but Zealand's third largest primary industry but its Zealand's third largest primary industry but its efficiency Zealand's third largest primary industry but its efficiency is industry but its efficiency is hampered industry but its efficiency is hampered by industry but its efficiency is hampered by the industry but its efficiency is hampered by the confusing industry but its efficiency is hampered by the confusing mix industry but its efficiency is hampered by the confusing mix of hampered by the confusing mix of planning hampered by the confusing mix of planning rules hampered by the confusing mix of planning rules across hampered by the confusing mix of planning rules across our hampered by the confusing mix of planning rules across our 86 planning rules across our 86 councils. planning rules across our 86 councils. This planning rules across our 86 councils. This new planning rules across our 86 councils. This new national planning rules across our 86 councils. This new national approach councils. This new national approach will councils. This new national approach will better councils. This new national approach will better protect councils. This new national approach will better protect the councils. This new national approach will better protect the environment will better protect the environment while will better protect the environment while improving will better protect the environment while improving productivity, will better protect the environment while improving productivity, by while improving productivity, by while improving productivity, by while improving productivity, by reducing consenting while improving productivity, by reducing consenting costs while improving productivity, by reducing consenting costs and reducing consenting costs and applying reducing consenting costs and applying consistent reducing consenting costs and applying consistent environmental applying consistent environmental standards. applying consistent environmental standards. This applying consistent environmental standards. This new applying consistent environmental standards. This new national standards. This new national forestry standards. This new national forestry standard standards. This new national forestry standard is standards. This new national forestry standard is an standards. This new national forestry standard is an important forestry standard is an important forestry standard is an important forestry standard is an important part of forestry standard is an important part of the forestry standard is an important part of the Government's forestry standard is an important part of the Government's RMA part of the Government's RMA changes, part of the Government's RMA changes, facilitated part of the Government's RMA changes, facilitated by part of the Government's RMA changes, facilitated by amendments changes, facilitated by amendments passed changes, facilitated by amendments passed in changes, facilitated by amendments passed in May changes, facilitated by amendments passed in May and changes, facilitated by amendments passed in May and aimed changes, facilitated by amendments passed in May and aimed at changes, facilitated by amendments passed in May and aimed at getting passed in May and aimed at getting better passed in May and aimed at getting better environmental passed in May and aimed at getting better environmental outcomes passed in May and aimed at getting better environmental outcomes with better environmental outcomes with less better environmental outcomes with less cost better environmental outcomes with less cost and better environmental outcomes with less cost and bureaucracy. less cost and bureaucracy. 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Planning rules at local Government level mean there local Government level mean there could local Government level mean there could be local Government level mean there could be as local Government level mean there could be as many local Government level mean there could be as many as local Government level mean there could be as many as three local Government level mean there could be as many as three sets local Government level mean there could be as many as three sets of could be as many as three sets of regional could be as many as three sets of local could be as many as three sets of regional or district could be as many as three sets of regional or district plan could be as many as three sets of regional or district plan rules. could be as many as three sets of regional or district plan rules. The regional or district plan rules. The forestry regional or district plan rules. The forestry sector regional or district plan rules. The forestry sector employs regional or district plan rules. The forestry sector employs over regional or district plan rules. 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