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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for humbly acknowledging our need for your humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all humbly acknowledging our need for your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant we ask that you grant that we ask that you grant that we we ask that you grant that we may we ask that you grant that we may conduct we ask that you grant that we may conduct the we ask that you grant that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House that we may conduct the affairs of this House and that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our that we may conduct the affairs of this House and of our country of this House and of our country to of this House and of our country to the of this House and of our country to the glory of this House and of our country to the glory of of this House and of our country to the glory of your of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy of this House and of our country to the glory of your holy name, to the glory of your holy name, the to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true to the glory of your holy name, the maintenance of true religion the maintenance of true religion and the maintenance of true religion and justice, and justice, the and justice, the honour and justice, the honour of and justice, the honour of the and justice, the honour of the Queen, the honour of the Queen, and the honour of the Queen, and the the honour of the Queen, and the public the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, the honour of the Queen, and the public welfare, peace, and the public welfare, peace, and and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New and the public welfare, peace, and tranquillity of New Zealand, and tranquillity of New Zealand, through and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our and tranquillity of New Zealand, through Jesus Christ our Lord. through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen. When When the When the House When the House resumes When the House resumes on When the House resumes on Tuesday, When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 August When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 August the When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 August the Government When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 August the Government will When the House resumes on Tuesday, 15 August the Government will look 15 August the Government will look to 15 August the Government will look to complete 15 August the Government will look to complete enhancing 15 August the Government will look to complete enhancing identity to complete enhancing identity verification to complete enhancing identity verification and to complete enhancing identity verification and border to complete enhancing identity verification and border processes verification and border processes legislation verification and border processes legislation bill verification and border processes legislation bill and verification and border processes legislation bill and progress verification and border processes legislation bill and progress a legislation bill and progress a number legislation bill and progress a number of legislation bill and progress a number of other legislation bill and progress a number of other bills legislation bill and progress a number of other bills on legislation bill and progress a number of other bills on the legislation bill and progress a number of other bills on the Order number of other bills on the Order Paper. number of other bills on the Order Paper. 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On Wednesday morning the House will sit under extended hours House will sit under extended hours for House will sit under extended hours for the House will sit under extended hours for the first House will sit under extended hours for the first reading House will sit under extended hours for the first reading of House will sit under extended hours for the first reading of the House will sit under extended hours for the first reading of the Claims for the first reading of the Claims Settlement for the first reading of the Claims Settlement Bills for the first reading of the Claims Settlement Bills and for the first reading of the Claims Settlement Bills and the for the first reading of the Claims Settlement Bills and the third Settlement Bills and the third reading Settlement Bills and the third reading of Settlement Bills and the third reading of the Settlement Bills and the third reading of the Bill. Settlement Bills and the third reading of the Bill. The Settlement Bills and the third reading of the Bill. The House Settlement Bills and the third reading of the Bill. The House will reading of the Bill. The House will rise reading of the Bill. The House will rise on reading of the Bill. The House will rise on Thursday reading of the Bill. The House will rise on Thursday 17 reading of the Bill. The House will rise on Thursday 17 August reading of the Bill. The House will rise on Thursday 17 August at reading of the Bill. The House will rise on Thursday 17 August at the rise on Thursday 17 August at the conclusion rise on Thursday 17 August at the conclusion of rise on Thursday 17 August at the conclusion of the rise on Thursday 17 August at the conclusion of the adjournment conclusion of the adjournment debate, conclusion of the adjournment debate, and conclusion of the adjournment debate, and the conclusion of the adjournment debate, and the dissolution conclusion of the adjournment debate, and the dissolution of conclusion of the adjournment debate, and the dissolution of the conclusion of the adjournment debate, and the dissolution of the a debate, and the dissolution of the a 1st debate, and the dissolution of the a 1st Parliament debate, and the dissolution of the a 1st Parliament will debate, and the dissolution of the a 1st Parliament will occur debate, and the dissolution of the a 1st Parliament will occur on 1st Parliament will occur on Tuesday, 1st Parliament will occur on Tuesday, 22 1st Parliament will occur on Tuesday, 22 August. 1st Parliament will occur on Tuesday, 22 August. The Tuesday, 22 August. The Governor-General Tuesday, 22 August. The Governor-General will Tuesday, 22 August. The Governor-General will summon Tuesday, 22 August. The Governor-General will summon the Governor-General will summon the 52nd Governor-General will summon the 52nd Parliament Governor-General will summon the 52nd Parliament to Governor-General will summon the 52nd Parliament to feet Governor-General will summon the 52nd Parliament to feet following 52nd Parliament to feet following the 52nd Parliament to feet following the election 52nd Parliament to feet following the election -- 52nd Parliament to feet following the election -- meet 52nd Parliament to feet following the election -- meet following 52nd Parliament to feet following the election -- meet following the the election -- meet following the election. 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We have also passed legislation that stamp it out. We have also passed legislation that makes stamp it out. 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The bank's MPS highlights New Zealand's Policy Statement. The bank's MPS highlights New Zealand's strong highlights New Zealand's strong growth highlights New Zealand's strong growth prospects, highlights New Zealand's strong growth prospects, stating, highlights New Zealand's strong growth prospects, stating, "Annual growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth is growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth is expected growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth is expected to growth prospects, stating, "Annual GDP growth is expected to average GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% over GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% over the GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% over the next GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% over the next two GDP growth is expected to average 3.4% over the next two years." 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Where they already contribute some $1.2 (INTERJECTIONS) No, no! Where they already contribute some $1.2 billion already contribute some $1.2 billion per already contribute some $1.2 billion per annum. already contribute some $1.2 billion per annum. I already contribute some $1.2 billion per annum. I don't already contribute some $1.2 billion per annum. I don't think, already contribute some $1.2 billion per annum. I don't think, though, per annum. I don't think, though, that per annum. I don't think, though, that it per annum. I don't think, though, that it is per annum. I don't think, though, that it is right per annum. I don't think, though, that it is right to per annum. I don't think, though, that it is right to double per annum. I don't think, though, that it is right to double down per annum. 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Supplementary before election time. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question. before election time. <INTERRUPTION> Order! Supplementary question. Point Order! Supplementary question. Point of Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Point Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Point of Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Point of order. Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Point of order. I Order! Supplementary question. Point of order. Point of order. I seek of order. Point of order. I seek leave of order. Point of order. I seek leave to of order. Point of order. I seek leave to table of order. Point of order. I seek leave to table the of order. Point of order. I seek leave to table the Auckland leave to table the Auckland transport leave to table the Auckland transport Alignment leave to table the Auckland transport Alignment Project leave to table the Auckland transport Alignment Project yet leave to table the Auckland transport Alignment Project yet to transport Alignment Project yet to be transport Alignment Project yet to be released transport Alignment Project yet to be released report transport Alignment Project yet to be released report that transport Alignment Project yet to be released report that details transport Alignment Project yet to be released report that details the be released report that details the blow-out be released report that details the blow-out in be released report that details the blow-out in transport be released report that details the blow-out in transport spending. blow-out in transport spending. Leave blow-out in transport spending. Leave is blow-out in transport spending. 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I would also note the very strong economic benefits that come strong economic benefits that come from strong economic benefits that come from this strong economic benefits that come from this project strong economic benefits that come from this project to strong economic benefits that come from this project to the strong economic benefits that come from this project to the people strong economic benefits that come from this project to the people of from this project to the people of Taranaki. from this project to the people of Taranaki. Is from this project to the people of Taranaki. Is the from this project to the people of Taranaki. Is the Minister Taranaki. Is the Minister comfortable Taranaki. Is the Minister comfortable with Taranaki. Is the Minister comfortable with the Taranaki. Is the Minister comfortable with the fact Taranaki. 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I casting vote in order to grant the application? I don't casting vote in order to grant the application? I don't accept casting vote in order to grant the application? I don't accept that casting vote in order to grant the application? I don't accept that at application? I don't accept that at all. application? I don't accept that at all. I application? I don't accept that at all. I think application? I don't accept that at all. I think they application? I don't accept that at all. I think they have application? I don't accept that at all. I think they have seen application? I don't accept that at all. I think they have seen these all. I think they have seen these sort all. I think they have seen these sort of all. I think they have seen these sort of things all. I think they have seen these sort of things happen all. I think they have seen these sort of things happen around all. I think they have seen these sort of things happen around the sort of things happen around the world. sort of things happen around the world. I sort of things happen around the world. I think sort of things happen around the world. I think it sort of things happen around the world. I think it is sort of things happen around the world. I think it is a sort of things happen around the world. I think it is a very sort of things happen around the world. I think it is a very rigorous world. I think it is a very rigorous process world. I think it is a very rigorous process where world. I think it is a very rigorous process where the world. I think it is a very rigorous process where the EPA world. I think it is a very rigorous process where the EPA is world. I think it is a very rigorous process where the EPA is weighing process where the EPA is weighing the process where the EPA is weighing the environmental process where the EPA is weighing the environmental effects process where the EPA is weighing the environmental effects and process where the EPA is weighing the environmental effects and the the environmental effects and the economic the environmental effects and the economic benefits the environmental effects and the economic benefits and the environmental effects and the economic benefits and I the environmental effects and the economic benefits and I think the environmental effects and the economic benefits and I think the economic benefits and I think the conditions economic benefits and I think the conditions imposed economic benefits and I think the conditions imposed here economic benefits and I think the conditions imposed here show economic benefits and I think the conditions imposed here show they conditions imposed here show they have conditions imposed here show they have done conditions imposed here show they have done that conditions imposed here show they have done that very conditions imposed here show they have done that very carefully have done that very carefully indeed. have done that very carefully indeed. 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Well, that seabed mining will have on the South Taranaki Bight? Well, I that seabed mining will have on the South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they have South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they have been South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they have been through South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they have been through a South Taranaki Bight? Well, I think they have been through a strong they have been through a strong process, they have been through a strong process, of they have been through a strong process, of course they have been through a strong process, of course we they have been through a strong process, of course we are they have been through a strong process, of course we are in they have been through a strong process, of course we are in an process, of course we are in an appeal process, of course we are in an appeal period process, of course we are in an appeal period now. process, of course we are in an appeal period now. I process, of course we are in an appeal period now. I have process, of course we are in an appeal period now. I have already appeal period now. I have already seen appeal period now. I have already seen reports appeal period now. I have already seen reports there appeal period now. I have already seen reports there will appeal period now. I have already seen reports there will be appeal period now. I have already seen reports there will be appeals. seen reports there will be appeals. Let's seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. I seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. I would seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. I would say seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. I would say to seen reports there will be appeals. Let's see that. I would say to the Let's see that. I would say to the member Let's see that. I would say to the member - Let's see that. I would say to the member - I Let's see that. I would say to the member - I appreciate Let's see that. I would say to the member - I appreciate he Let's see that. I would say to the member - I appreciate he is Let's see that. I would say to the member - I appreciate he is trying member - I appreciate he is trying to member - I appreciate he is trying to get member - I appreciate he is trying to get his member - I appreciate he is trying to get his green member - I appreciate he is trying to get his green brand member - I appreciate he is trying to get his green brand back member - I appreciate he is trying to get his green brand back after to get his green brand back after thoroughly to get his green brand back after thoroughly trashing to get his green brand back after thoroughly trashing it to get his green brand back after thoroughly trashing it over to get his green brand back after thoroughly trashing it over the to get his green brand back after thoroughly trashing it over the last thoroughly trashing it over the last couple thoroughly trashing it over the last couple of thoroughly trashing it over the last couple of weeks... thoroughly trashing it over the last couple of weeks... 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Shouldn't the job of the Environmental the job of the Environmental Protection the job of the Environmental Protection Agency the job of the Environmental Protection Agency be the job of the Environmental Protection Agency be to the job of the Environmental Protection Agency be to protect the job of the Environmental Protection Agency be to protect the Protection Agency be to protect the environment Protection Agency be to protect the environment rather Protection Agency be to protect the environment rather than Protection Agency be to protect the environment rather than the environment rather than the interests environment rather than the interests of environment rather than the interests of a environment rather than the interests of a mining environment rather than the interests of a mining company? interests of a mining company? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> I <INTERRUPTION> I think <INTERRUPTION> I think as <INTERRUPTION> I think as the <INTERRUPTION> I think as the environment <INTERRUPTION> I think as the environment - <INTERRUPTION> I think as the environment - as <INTERRUPTION> I think as the environment - as we I think as the environment - as we know I think as the environment - as we know - I think as the environment - as we know - is I think as the environment - as we know - is incredibly I think as the environment - as we know - is incredibly important I think as the environment - as we know - is incredibly important and know - is incredibly important and we know - is incredibly important and we must know - is incredibly important and we must protect know - is incredibly important and we must protect it. know - is incredibly important and we must protect it. 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SEQ been put in place to safeguard the environment. SEQ -- been put in place to safeguard the environment. SEQ -- supplementary environment. SEQ -- supplementary question environment. SEQ -- supplementary question What environment. SEQ -- supplementary question What is environment. SEQ -- supplementary question What is the environment. SEQ -- supplementary question What is the response environment. SEQ -- supplementary question What is the response to environment. 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I'm sure the EPA weighed up all the evidence in weighed up all the evidence in relation weighed up all the evidence in relation to weighed up all the evidence in relation to the weighed up all the evidence in relation to the physical weighed up all the evidence in relation to the physical environment relation to the physical environment throughout relation to the physical environment throughout their relation to the physical environment throughout their very relation to the physical environment throughout their very thorough throughout their very thorough process. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Is My question is to the Minister of Education: Is she My question is to the Minister of Education: Is she satisfied My question is to the Minister of Education: Is she satisfied that Education: Is she satisfied that after Education: Is she satisfied that after 9 Education: Is she satisfied that after 9 years Education: Is she satisfied that after 9 years of Education: Is she satisfied that after 9 years of a Education: Is she satisfied that after 9 years of a National after 9 years of a National Government after 9 years of a National Government that after 9 years of a National Government that all after 9 years of a National Government that all children after 9 years of a National Government that all children and Government that all children and young Government that all children and young people Government that all children and young people are Government that all children and young people are receiving Government that all children and young people are receiving all Government that all children and young people are receiving all the young people are receiving all the support young people are receiving all the support that young people are receiving all the support that they young people are receiving all the support that they need young people are receiving all the support that they need to young people are receiving all the support that they need to succeed young people are receiving all the support that they need to succeed in support that they need to succeed in education? On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the Minister On behalf of the Minister of On behalf of the Minister of Education, On behalf of the Minister of Education, I On behalf of the Minister of Education, I am On behalf of the Minister of Education, I am satisfied On behalf of the Minister of Education, I am satisfied that On behalf of the Minister of Education, I am satisfied that this Education, I am satisfied that this National-led Education, I am satisfied that this National-led Government Education, I am satisfied that this National-led Government made Education, I am satisfied that this National-led Government made a National-led Government made a significant National-led Government made a significant investment National-led Government made a significant investment in National-led Government made a significant investment in the significant investment in the education significant investment in the education of significant investment in the education of our significant investment in the education of our children significant investment in the education of our children and significant investment in the education of our children and young education of our children and young people. education of our children and young people. 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This financial year our investment in education amounts to investment in education amounts to over investment in education amounts to over $11 investment in education amounts to over $11 billion investment in education amounts to over $11 billion - investment in education amounts to over $11 billion - the investment in education amounts to over $11 billion - the highest investment in education amounts to over $11 billion - the highest ever over $11 billion - the highest ever investment over $11 billion - the highest ever investment in over $11 billion - the highest ever investment in public over $11 billion - the highest ever investment in public education. investment in public education. However, investment in public education. However, we investment in public education. However, we recognise investment in public education. However, we recognise that investment in public education. However, we recognise that there investment in public education. 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Why does he believe that schools achieve that. Why does he believe that schools are achieve that. Why does he believe that schools are getting achieve that. Why does he believe that schools are getting all achieve that. 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Thirdly - the NPS introduces new ecological health introduces new ecological health requirements introduces new ecological health requirements with introduces new ecological health requirements with councils introduces new ecological health requirements with councils being requirements with councils being required requirements with councils being required to requirements with councils being required to take requirements with councils being required to take specific requirements with councils being required to take specific actions requirements with councils being required to take specific actions if required to take specific actions if the required to take specific actions if the MCI required to take specific actions if the MCI drops required to take specific actions if the MCI drops below required to take specific actions if the MCI drops below 80. required to take specific actions if the MCI drops below 80. What the MCI drops below 80. What parallel the MCI drops below 80. 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The not making farmers fence in areas where it's impractical. The new where it's impractical. The new forestry where it's impractical. The new forestry regulations where it's impractical. The new forestry regulations that where it's impractical. 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The Government is also supporting Government is also supporting councils Government is also supporting councils with Government is also supporting councils with these Government is also supporting councils with these targets Government is also supporting councils with these targets by councils with these targets by investing councils with these targets by investing a councils with these targets by investing a further councils with these targets by investing a further $44 councils with these targets by investing a further $44 million councils with these targets by investing a further $44 million in investing a further $44 million in river investing a further $44 million in river and investing a further $44 million in river and lake investing a further $44 million in river and lake clean-ups investing a further $44 million in river and lake clean-ups this investing a further $44 million in river and lake clean-ups this week. river and lake clean-ups this week. What river and lake clean-ups this week. What is river and lake clean-ups this week. What is the river and lake clean-ups this week. What is the estimated river and lake clean-ups this week. What is the estimated cost river and lake clean-ups this week. 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What more operations than eight years ago. What assurance more operations than eight years ago. What assurance will more operations than eight years ago. What assurance will he more operations than eight years ago. What assurance will he give ago. What assurance will he give that ago. What assurance will he give that IT ago. What assurance will he give that IT glitches ago. What assurance will he give that IT glitches aren't ago. What assurance will he give that IT glitches aren't impacting ago. What assurance will he give that IT glitches aren't impacting on that IT glitches aren't impacting on delivering that IT glitches aren't impacting on delivering the that IT glitches aren't impacting on delivering the operations that IT glitches aren't impacting on delivering the operations that that IT glitches aren't impacting on delivering the operations that are delivering the operations that are needed? delivering the operations that are delivering delivering the operations that are needed? Like the delivering the operations that are needed? Like the one delivering the operations that are needed? Like the one that delivering the operations that are needed? Like the one that stopped needed? Like the one that stopped medical needed? Like the one that stopped medical professionals needed? 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I'm surprised Speaker, that sounds deeply operational. I'm surprised that Speaker, that sounds deeply operational. I'm surprised that at operational. I'm surprised that at this operational. I'm surprised that at operational. operational. I'm surprised that at this time of operational. I'm surprised that at this time of the operational. I'm surprised that at this time of the political operational. I'm surprised that at this time of the political cycle, this time of the political cycle, the this time of the political cycle, the member this time of the political cycle, the member is this time of the political cycle, the member is not this time of the political cycle, the member is not trying this time of the political cycle, the member is not trying to this time of the political cycle, the member is not trying to raise the member is not trying to raise this the member is not trying to raise this game the member is not trying to raise this game to the member is not trying to raise this game to a the member is not trying to raise this game to a more the member is not trying to raise this game to a more and the member is not trying to raise this game to a more and political this game to a more and political level, this game to a more and political level, but this game to a more and political level, but I'll this game to a more and political level, but I'll go this game to a more and political level, but I'll go back this game to a more and political level, but I'll go back and this game to a more and political level, but I'll go back and ask this game to a more and political level, but I'll go back and ask the level, but I'll go back and ask the question level, but I'll go back and ask the question about level, but I'll go back and ask the question about that. level, but I'll go back and ask the question about that. 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I seek leave to table a order, Dr David Clark. I seek leave to table a message order, Dr David Clark. I seek leave to table a message to order, Dr David Clark. I seek leave to table a message to Counties to table a message to Counties Manukauu to table a message to Counties Manukauu staff to table a message to Counties Manukauu staff relating to table a message to Counties Manukauu staff relating to to table a message to Counties Manukauu staff relating to clinical Manukauu staff relating to clinical letters Manukauu staff relating to clinical letters being Manukauu staff relating to clinical letters being unable Manukauu staff relating to clinical letters being unable to Manukauu staff relating to clinical letters being unable to medical letters being unable to medical staff letters being unable to medical staff for letters being unable to medical staff for 2.5 letters being unable to medical staff for 2.5 hours. letters being unable to medical staff for 2.5 hours. Leave letters being unable to medical staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is letters being unable to medical staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to table staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to table that staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to table that particular staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to table that particular letter. staff for 2.5 hours. Leave is sought to table that particular letter. Is to table that particular letter. Is there to table that particular letter. Is there any to table that particular letter. Is there any objection to table that particular letter. Is there any objection to to table that particular letter. Is there any objection to it to table that particular letter. Is there any objection to it being there any objection to it being tabled? there any objection to it being tabled? There there any objection to it being tabled? There is there any objection to it being tabled? There is not, there any objection to it being tabled? There is not, it there any objection to it being tabled? There is not, it can there any objection to it being tabled? There is not, it can be tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. Does tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. Does he tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. Does he believe tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. Does he believe there tabled? There is not, it can be tabled. Does he believe there are tabled. Does he believe there are enough tabled. Does he believe there are enough hospital tabled. Does he believe there are enough hospital beds tabled. Does he believe there are enough hospital beds for tabled. Does he believe there are enough hospital beds for patients tabled. Does he believe there are enough hospital beds for patients to enough hospital beds for patients to meet enough hospital beds for patients to meet demand enough hospital beds for patients to meet demand pressures enough hospital beds for patients to meet demand pressures when enough hospital beds for patients to meet demand pressures when at enough hospital beds for patients to meet demand pressures when at the meet demand pressures when at the beginning meet demand pressures when at the beginning of meet demand pressures when at the beginning of August, meet demand pressures when at the beginning of August, two meet demand pressures when at the beginning of August, two weeks meet demand pressures when at the beginning of August, two weeks ago, beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal hospital beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal hospital was beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal hospital was at beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal hospital was at 116% beginning of August, two weeks ago, minimal hospital was at 116% full minimal hospital was at 116% full capacity minimal hospital was at 116% full capacity in minimal hospital was at 116% full capacity in medical, minimal hospital was at 116% full capacity in medical, surgical minimal hospital was at 116% full capacity in medical, surgical and capacity in medical, surgical and adult capacity in medical, surgical and adult rehabilitation capacity in medical, surgical and adult rehabilitation and capacity in medical, surgical and adult rehabilitation and health capacity in medical, surgical and adult rehabilitation and health of adult rehabilitation and health of older adult rehabilitation and health of older people adult rehabilitation and health of older people wards, adult rehabilitation and health of older people wards, with adult rehabilitation and health of older people wards, with 358 older people wards, with 358 patients older people wards, with 358 patients going older people wards, with 358 patients going through older people wards, with 358 patients going through ED older people wards, with 358 patients going through ED in older people wards, with 358 patients going through ED in one older people wards, with 358 patients going through ED in one day patients going through ED in one day and patients going through ED in one day and 52 patients going through ED in one day and 52 patients patients going through ED in one day and 52 patients left patients going through ED in one day and 52 patients left sitting patients going through ED in one day and 52 patients left sitting waiting and 52 patients left sitting waiting for and 52 patients left sitting waiting for an and 52 patients left sitting waiting for an inpatient and 52 patients left sitting waiting for an inpatient bed? and 52 patients left sitting waiting for an inpatient bed? 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Mr Speaker, I think the member needs to just reread his member needs to just reread his question member needs to just reread his question in member needs to just reread his question in his member needs to just reread his question in his mind, member needs to just reread his question in his mind, frankly member needs to just reread his question in his mind, frankly the question in his mind, frankly the whole question in his mind, frankly the whole thing question in his mind, frankly the whole thing just question in his mind, frankly the whole thing just doesn't question in his mind, frankly the whole thing just doesn't make question in his mind, frankly the whole thing just doesn't make sense. whole thing just doesn't make sense. But whole thing just doesn't make sense. But despite whole thing just doesn't make sense. But despite that, whole thing just doesn't make sense. But despite that, what whole thing just doesn't make sense. 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After nine years, what does he say After nine years, what does he say to After nine years, what does he say to clinicians After nine years, what does he say to clinicians across After nine years, what does he say to clinicians across the After nine years, what does he say to clinicians across the country After nine years, what does he say to clinicians across the country who to clinicians across the country who are to clinicians across the country who are pleading to clinicians across the country who are pleading for to clinicians across the country who are pleading for their to clinicians across the country who are pleading for their hospitals to clinicians across the country who are pleading for their hospitals to are pleading for their hospitals to be are pleading for their hospitals to be given are pleading for their hospitals to be given more are pleading for their hospitals to be given more operating are pleading for their hospitals to be given more operating theatres are pleading for their hospitals to be given more operating theatres for be given more operating theatres for more be given more operating theatres for more specialist be given more operating theatres for more specialist doctors be given more operating theatres for more specialist doctors and be given more operating theatres for more specialist doctors and for be given more operating theatres for more specialist doctors and for more more specialist doctors and for more funding more specialist doctors and for more funding and more specialist doctors and for more funding and is more specialist doctors and for more funding and is this more specialist doctors and for more funding and is this the more specialist doctors and for more funding and is this the quote more specialist doctors and for more funding and is this the quote health funding and is this the quote health system funding and is this the quote health system that's funding and is this the quote health system that's the funding and is this the quote health system that's the envy funding and is this the quote health system that's the envy of funding and is this the quote health system that's the envy of the funding and is this the quote health system that's the envy of the world, system that's the envy of the world, end system that's the envy of the world, end quote, system that's the envy of the world, end quote, that system that's the envy of the world, end quote, that he system that's the envy of the world, end quote, that he envisaged. system that's the envy of the world, end quote, that he envisaged. Mr end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, the end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, the member end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, the member needs end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, the member needs to end quote, that he envisaged. Mr Speaker, the member needs to start Speaker, the member needs to start becoming Speaker, the member needs to start becoming a Speaker, the member needs to start becoming a bit Speaker, the member needs to start becoming a bit more Speaker, the member needs to start becoming a bit more positive Speaker, the member needs to start becoming a bit more positive about becoming a bit more positive about New becoming a bit more positive about New Zealand becoming a bit more positive about New Zealand and becoming a bit more positive about New Zealand and our becoming a bit more positive about New Zealand and our health becoming a bit more positive about New Zealand and our health system New Zealand and our health system because New Zealand and our health system because actually New Zealand and our health system because actually it New Zealand and our health system because actually it stacks New Zealand and our health system because actually it stacks up New Zealand and our health system because actually it stacks up pretty because actually it stacks up pretty well. because actually it stacks up pretty well. And because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can tell because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can tell you because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can tell you - because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can tell you - if because actually it stacks up pretty well. And I can tell you - if you well. And I can tell you - if you look well. And I can tell you - if you look at well. And I can tell you - if you look at the well. And I can tell you - if you look at the facilities well. And I can tell you - if you look at the facilities we well. And I can tell you - if you look at the facilities we have well. And I can tell you - if you look at the facilities we have built look at the facilities we have built in look at the facilities we have built in the look at the facilities we have built in the health look at the facilities we have built in the health across look at the facilities we have built in the health across the look at the facilities we have built in the health across the country, look at the facilities we have built in the health across the country, I in the health across the country, I mean, in the health across the country, I mean, a in the health across the country, I mean, a billion in the health across the country, I mean, a billion dollars in the health across the country, I mean, a billion dollars of in the health across the country, I mean, a billion dollars of health mean, a billion dollars of health rebuild mean, a billion dollars of health rebuild in mean, a billion dollars of health rebuild in Christchurch, mean, a billion dollars of health rebuild in Christchurch, West mean, a billion dollars of health rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is being rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is being done, rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is being done, Dunedin rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is being done, Dunedin is rebuild in Christchurch, West Coast is being done, Dunedin is next, is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 6,900 is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 6,900 more is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 6,900 more doctors is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 6,900 more doctors and is being done, Dunedin is next, 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in our 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in our hospital 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in our hospital system, 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in our hospital system, 50,000 6,000 6,900 more doctors and nurses in our hospital system, 50,000 more in our hospital system, 50,000 more operations. in our hospital system, 50,000 more operations. 150,000 in our hospital system, 50,000 more operations. 150,000 more in our hospital system, 50,000 more operations. 150,000 more specialist operations. 150,000 more specialist assessments, operations. 150,000 more specialist rebuild operations. 150,000 more specialist assessments, what I operations. 150,000 more specialist assessments, what I would operations. 150,000 more specialist assessments, what I would say operations. 150,000 more specialist assessments, what I would say to assessments, what I would say to those assessments, what I would say to those specialist assessments, what I would say to those specialist doctors assessments, what I would say to those specialist doctors is assessments, what I would say to those specialist doctors is actually those specialist doctors is actually - those specialist doctors is actually those those specialist doctors is actually - if this those specialist doctors is actually - if this guy those specialist doctors is actually - if this guy was those specialist doctors is actually - if this guy was ever those specialist doctors is actually - if this guy was ever running those specialist doctors is actually - if this guy was ever running the - if this guy was ever running the health - if this guy was ever running the health system, - if this guy was ever running the health system, you'd - if this guy was ever running the health system, you'd be - if this guy was ever running the health system, you'd be in - if this guy was ever running the health system, you'd be in really health system, you'd be in really big health system, you'd be in really big trouble. health system, you'd be in really big trouble. Order! health system, you'd be in really big trouble. Order! We health system, you'd be in really big trouble. Order! We don't health system, you'd be in really big trouble. Order! We don't need health system, you'd be in really big trouble. Order! We don't need to big trouble. Order! We don't need to go big trouble. Order! We don't need to go there. big trouble. Order! We don't need to go there. Question big trouble. Order! We don't need to go there. Question No. big trouble. Order! We don't need to go there. Question No. 8. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he agree My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he agree with My question is to the Minister of Transport: Does he agree with the Transport: Does he agree with the Prime Transport: Does he agree with the Prime Minister's Transport: Does he agree with the Prime Minister's reported Transport: Does he agree with the Prime Minister's reported statement Prime Minister's reported statement that Prime Minister's reported statement that there Prime Minister's reported statement that there is Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no need Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no need for Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no need for a Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no need for a fuel Prime Minister's reported statement that there is no need for a fuel tax that there is no need for a fuel tax to that there is no need for a fuel tax to pay that there is no need for a fuel tax to pay for that there is no need for a fuel tax to pay for Auckland's that there is no need for a fuel tax to pay for Auckland's transport? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, yes, Mr Speaker, yes, I Mr Speaker, yes, I agree Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement that Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement that we Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement that we don't Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement that we don't need Mr Speaker, yes, I agree with the prior statement that we don't need a prior statement that we don't need a regional prior statement that we don't need a regional full prior statement that we don't need a regional full tax. prior statement that we don't need a regional full tax. We prior statement that we don't need a regional full tax. We don't prior statement that we don't need a regional full tax. We don't need regional full tax. We don't need that regional full tax. We don't need that additional regional full tax. We don't need that additional opportunity regional full tax. We don't need that additional opportunity to that additional opportunity to contribute. that additional opportunity to contribute. That's that additional opportunity to contribute. That's because that additional opportunity to contribute. That's because this contribute. That's because this Government contribute. That's because this Government has contribute. That's because this Government has shown contribute. That's because this Government has shown that contribute. That's because this Government has shown that with contribute. That's because this Government has shown that with a Government has shown that with a growing Government has shown that with a growing economy, Government has shown that with a growing economy, if Government has shown that with a growing economy, if we Government has shown that with a growing economy, if we managed Government has shown that with a growing economy, if we managed the growing economy, if we managed the country's growing economy, if we managed the country's finances growing economy, if we managed the country's finances well, growing economy, if we managed the country's finances well, we growing economy, if we managed the country's finances well, we can growing economy, if we managed the country's finances well, we can do country's finances well, we can do large country's finances well, we can do large projects country's finances well, we can do large projects across country's finances well, we can do large projects across the country's finances well, we can do large projects across the country, large projects across the country, not large projects across the country, not just large projects across the country, not just in large projects across the country, not just in Auckland, large projects across the country, not just in Auckland, without large projects across the country, not just in Auckland, without new not just in Auckland, without new taxes not just in Auckland, without new taxes and not just in Auckland, without new taxes and certainly not just in Auckland, without new taxes and certainly not not just in Auckland, without new taxes and certainly not by taxes and certainly not by cancelling taxes and certainly not by cancelling projects taxes and certainly not by cancelling projects by taxes and certainly not by cancelling projects by the taxes and certainly not by cancelling projects by the new taxes and certainly not by cancelling projects by the new East cancelling projects by the new East West cancelling projects by the new East West Link cancelling projects by the new East West Link state cancelling projects by the new East West Link state highway cancelling projects by the new East West Link state highway project West Link state highway project which West Link state highway project West West Link state highway project which would be West Link state highway project which would be a West Link state highway project which would be a disaster West Link state highway project which would be a disaster for which would be a disaster for congestion which would be a disaster for congestion in which would be a disaster for congestion in Auckland. which would be a disaster for congestion in Auckland. In which would be a disaster for congestion in Auckland. In that congestion in Auckland. In that case... congestion in Auckland. In that case... Supplementary congestion in Auckland. In that case... Supplementary question? case... Supplementary question? Supplementary case... Supplementary question? case... case... Supplementary question? Supplementary question, Julie case... Supplementary question? Supplementary question, Julie Anne Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in that Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in that case, Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in that case, how Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in that case, how is Supplementary question, Julie Anne Genter. So in that case, how is he Genter. So in that case, how is he going Genter. So in that case, how is he going to Genter. 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Is he going to scrap existing projects projects for Auckland? Is he going to scrap existing projects or projects for Auckland? Is he going to scrap existing projects or is projects for Auckland? Is he going to scrap existing projects or is he to scrap existing projects or is he going to scrap existing projects or is he going to to scrap existing projects or is he going to raise to scrap existing projects or is he going to raise full to scrap existing projects or is he going to raise full taxes? to scrap existing projects or is he going to raise full taxes? Where to scrap existing projects or is he going to raise full taxes? Where is going to raise full taxes? Where is the going to raise full taxes? Where is the money going to raise full taxes? Where is the money going going to raise full taxes? Where is the money going to going to raise full taxes? Where is the money going to come going to raise full taxes? Where is the money going to come from? going to raise full taxes? 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A couple of things - it's not up to us, Simon Bridges. A couple of things - it's not up to us, the Simon Bridges. A couple of things - it's not up to us, the council Simon Bridges. 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And billion over the next four years. And headroom billion over the next four years. And headroom there billion over the next four years. And headroom there to billion over the next four years. And headroom there to do billion over the next four years. And headroom there to do a billion over the next four years. And headroom there to do a really And headroom there to do a really effective And headroom there to do a really effective job And headroom there to do a really effective job to And headroom there to do a really effective job to continue And headroom there to do a really effective job to continue to And headroom there to do a really effective job to continue to do And headroom there to do a really effective job to continue to do the effective job to continue to do the big effective job to continue to do the big projects effective job to continue to do the big projects but effective job to continue to do the big projects but also effective job to continue to do the big projects but also good big projects but also good management big projects but also good management of big projects but also good management of a big projects but also good management of a strong big projects but also good management of a strong economy. big projects but also good management of a strong economy. So management of a strong economy. So which management of a strong economy. So which budget management of a strong economy. So which budget is management of a strong economy. So which budget is it management of a strong economy. So which budget is it going management of a strong economy. So which budget is it going to management of a strong economy. So which budget is it going to come which budget is it going to come from? which budget is it going to come from? The which budget is it going to come from? The national which budget is it going to come from? The national and which budget is it going to come from? The national and transport from? The national and transport fund, from? The national and transport fund, or from? The national and transport fund, or general from? The national and transport fund, or general taxation? from? The national and transport fund, or general taxation? Mr fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, I fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, I think fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, I think we fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, I think we have fund, or general taxation? Mr Speaker, I think we have already Speaker, I think we have already seen Speaker, I think we have already seen from Speaker, I think we have already seen from this Speaker, I think we have already seen from this government, Speaker, I think we have already seen from this government, a Speaker, I think we have already seen from this government, a mixture seen from this government, a mixture of seen from this government, a mixture of these seen from this government, a mixture of these things. seen from this government, a mixture of these things. But seen from this government, a mixture of these things. But I seen from this government, a mixture of these things. But I repeat seen from this government, a mixture of these things. But I repeat what seen from this government, a mixture of these things. But I repeat what I of these things. But I repeat what I said of these things. But I repeat what I said - of these things. But I repeat what I said - the of these things. But I repeat what I said - the land of these things. But I repeat what I said - the land transport of these things. But I repeat what I said - the land transport system of these things. But I repeat what I said - the land transport system is said - the land transport system is delivering said - the land transport system is delivering strong said - the land transport system is delivering strong revenues said - the land transport system is delivering strong revenues which delivering strong revenues which allows delivering strong revenues which allows us delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom to delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom to get delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom to get in delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom to get in to delivering strong revenues which allows us headroom to get in to deal allows us headroom to get in to deal with allows us headroom to get in to deal with the allows us headroom to get in to deal with the growth, allows us headroom to get in to deal with the growth, not allows us headroom to get in to deal with the growth, not just allows us headroom to get in to deal with the growth, not just in with the growth, not just in Auckland, with the growth, not just in Auckland, all with the growth, not just in Auckland, all over with the growth, not just in Auckland, all over New with the growth, not just in Auckland, all over New Zealand. with the growth, not just in Auckland, all over New Zealand. But Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as you Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as you said Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as you said from Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as you said from that Auckland, all over New Zealand. But as you said from that rail as you said from that rail announcement as you said from that rail announcement that as you said from that rail announcement that we as you said from that rail announcement that we made as you said from that rail announcement that we made in as you said from that rail announcement that we made in the as you said from that rail announcement that we made in the a announcement that we made in the a weekend announcement that we made in the a weekend is announcement that we made in the a weekend is 267, announcement that we made in the a weekend is 267, I announcement that we made in the a weekend is 267, I think, announcement that we made in the a weekend is 267, I think, million weekend is 267, I think, million dollars weekend is 267, I think, million dollars from weekend is 267, I think, million dollars from the weekend is 267, I think, million dollars from the Crown. weekend is 267, I think, million dollars from the Crown. 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Can he confirm that if the extra $2.6 billion for House. Can he confirm that if the extra $2.6 billion for Auckland extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes from extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes from the extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes from the transport extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes from the transport budget, extra $2.6 billion for Auckland comes from the transport budget, it comes from the transport budget, it will comes from the transport budget, it will require comes from the transport budget, it will require at comes from the transport budget, it will require at least comes from the transport budget, it will require at least a comes from the transport budget, it will require at least a five comes from the transport budget, it will require at least a five cent will require at least a five cent per will require at least a five cent per litre will require at least a five cent per litre increase will require at least a five cent per litre increase in will require at least a five cent per litre increase in full will require at least a five cent per litre increase in full tax will require at least a five cent per litre increase in full tax right per litre increase in full tax right across per litre increase in full tax right across the per litre increase in full tax right across the country? per litre increase in full tax right across the country? Mr per litre increase in full tax right across the country? Mr Speaker, per litre increase in full tax right across the country? Mr Speaker, I across the country? Mr Speaker, I don't across the country? Mr Speaker, I don't think across the country? Mr Speaker, I don't think that's across the country? Mr Speaker, I don't think that's necessarily across the country? Mr Speaker, I don't think that's necessarily true. don't think that's necessarily true. I don't think that's necessarily true. I say don't think that's necessarily true. I say - don't think that's necessarily true. I say - from don't think that's necessarily true. I say - from a don't think that's necessarily true. I say - from a variety don't think that's necessarily true. I say - from a variety of don't think that's necessarily true. I say - from a variety of sources, I say - from a variety of sources, both I say - from a variety of sources, both here I say - from a variety of sources, both here in I say - from a variety of sources, both here in Wellington, I say - from a variety of sources, both here in Wellington, the I say - from a variety of sources, both here in Wellington, the petrol both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes and both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes and the both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes and the land both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes and the land transport both here in Wellington, the petrol taxes and the land transport system taxes and the land transport system across taxes and the land transport system across New taxes and the land transport system across New Zealand, taxes and the land transport system across New Zealand, we taxes and the land transport system across New Zealand, we got taxes and the land transport system across New Zealand, we got real across New Zealand, we got real headroom across New Zealand, we got real headroom in across New Zealand, we got real headroom in this across New Zealand, we got real headroom in this growing across New Zealand, we got real headroom in this growing economy across New Zealand, we got real headroom in this growing economy to headroom in this growing economy to do headroom in this growing economy to do big headroom in this growing economy to do big projects. headroom in this growing economy to do big projects. We're headroom in this growing economy to do big projects. We're already headroom in this growing economy to do big projects. We're already doing do big projects. We're already doing it do big projects. We're already doing it with do big projects. We're already doing it with CRL, do big projects. We're already doing it with CRL, with do big projects. We're already doing it with CRL, with east-west, do big projects. We're already doing it with CRL, with east-west, with it with CRL, with east-west, with Waterview, it with CRL, with east-west, with Waterview, and it with CRL, with east-west, with Waterview, and as it with CRL, with east-west, with Waterview, and as the it with CRL, with east-west, with Waterview, and as the programme, Waterview, and as the programme, there's Waterview, and as the programme, Waterview, Waterview, and as the programme, there's more to Waterview, and as the programme, there's more to come. Waterview, and as the programme, there's more to come. 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I seek leaf to table a Treasury and Ministry of Transport Treasury and Ministry of Transport report Treasury and Ministry of Transport Treasury Treasury and Ministry of Transport report which shows Treasury and Ministry of Transport report which shows an Treasury and Ministry of Transport report which shows an order Treasury and Ministry of Transport report which shows an order to Treasury and Ministry of Transport report which shows an order to raise report which shows an order to raise just report which shows an order to raise just $50 report which shows an order to raise just $50 million report which shows an order to raise just $50 million extra report which shows an order to raise just $50 million extra per report which shows an order to raise just $50 million extra per year report which shows an order to raise just $50 million extra per year for just $50 million extra per year for the just $50 million extra per year for the transport just $50 million extra per year for the transport budget just $50 million extra per year for the transport budget one just $50 million extra per year for the transport budget one cent just $50 million extra per year for the transport budget one cent per the transport budget one cent per litre the transport budget one cent per litre is the transport budget one cent per litre is needed the transport budget one cent per litre is needed increase the transport budget one cent per litre is needed increase nationwide. litre is needed increase nationwide. Is litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that report litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that report the litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that report the member litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that report the member seeking litre is needed increase nationwide. Is that report the member seeking to Is that report the member seeking to table Is that report the member seeking to table readily Is that report the member seeking to table readily available Is that report the member seeking to table readily available on Is that report the member seeking to table readily available on the Is that report the member seeking to table readily available on the net? table readily available on the net? It table readily available on the net? It says table readily available on the net? It says it's table readily available on the net? It says it's in table readily available on the net? 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I because I think it's important it's a team effort. I think because I think it's important it's a team effort. I think the because I think it's important it's a team effort. I think the council a team effort. I think the council understands a team effort. I think the council understands that. a team effort. I think the council understands that. Point a team effort. I think the council understands that. Point of a team effort. I think the council understands that. Point of order? understands that. Point of order? Order! understands that. Point of order? Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Point Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Point of Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Point of order. Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Point of order. Point Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Point of order. Point of Order! Point of order. Point of order, Order! Point of order. Point of order, Julie Order! Point of order. Point of order, Julie Anne Order! Point of order. Point of order, Julie Anne Genter. Order! Point of order. Point of order, Julie Anne Genter. I Order! Point of order. Point of order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek leave order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek leave to order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek leave to table order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek leave to table the order, Julie Anne Genter. I seek leave to table the Auckland leave to table the Auckland transport leave to table the Auckland transport alignment leave to table the Auckland transport alignment report leave to table the Auckland transport alignment report which transport alignment report which says transport alignment report which says the transport alignment report which says the additional transport alignment report which says the additional revenue transport alignment report which says the additional revenue from says the additional revenue from fuel says the additional revenue from fuel tax says the additional revenue from fuel tax is says the additional revenue from fuel tax is not says the additional revenue from fuel tax is not enough says the additional revenue from fuel tax is not enough to says the additional revenue from fuel tax is not enough to plug says the additional revenue from fuel tax is not enough to plug the fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... Order! fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... Order! Leave fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... Order! Leave is fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... Order! Leave is sought fuel tax is not enough to plug the gap... Order! Leave is sought to gap... Order! Leave is sought to table gap... Order! Leave is sought to table that gap... Order! Leave is sought to table that particular gap... Order! Leave is sought to table that particular document. gap... Order! Leave is sought to table that particular document. Is table that particular document. Is there table that particular document. Is there any table that particular document. Is there any objection? table that particular document. Is there any objection? . table that particular document. Is there any objection? . Yes table that particular document. Is there any objection? . Yes There table that particular document. Is there any objection? . Yes There is there any objection? . Yes There is objection. there any objection? . Yes There is objection. <INTERRUPTION> objection. <INTERRUPTION> Question objection. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. objection. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 9. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: How My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much was My question is to the Minister of Transport: How much was originally Transport: How much was originally funded Transport: How much was originally funded by Transport: How much was originally funded by the Transport: How much was originally funded by the New Transport: How much was originally funded by the New Zealand Transport: How much was originally funded by the New Zealand Transport funded by the New Zealand Transport Agency funded by the New Zealand Transport Agency to funded by the New Zealand Transport Agency to complete funded by the New Zealand Transport Agency to complete the funded by the New Zealand Transport Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Hills Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Hills Road Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Hills Road improvements; Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Hills Road improvements; and Agency to complete the Brynderwyn Hills Road improvements; and how Hills Road improvements; and how much Hills Road improvements; and how much is Hills Road improvements; and how much is it Hills Road improvements; and how much is it now? Mr Mr Speaker, Mr Speaker, the Mr Speaker, the original Mr Speaker, the original funding Mr Speaker, the original funding was Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a total Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a total cost Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a total cost now Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a total cost now is Mr Speaker, the original funding was $16 million, a total cost now is 20 $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with a $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with a benefit $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with a benefit cost $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with a benefit cost ratio $16 million, a total cost now is 20 million with a benefit cost ratio of million with a benefit cost ratio of two. million with a benefit cost ratio of two. I'm million with a benefit cost ratio of two. I'm advised million with a benefit cost ratio of two. I'm advised that million with a benefit cost ratio of two. I'm advised that the million with a benefit cost ratio of two. I'm advised that the increased two. I'm advised that the increased cost two. I'm advised that the increased cost is two. I'm advised that the increased cost is mainly two. I'm advised that the increased cost is mainly due two. I'm advised that the increased cost is mainly due to two. I'm advised that the increased cost is mainly due to two two. I'm advised that the increased cost is mainly due to two large cost is mainly due to two large slips cost is mainly due to two large slips and cost is mainly due to two large slips and a cost is mainly due to two large slips and a significant cost is mainly due to two large slips and a significant weather slips and a significant weather event slips and a significant weather event in slips and a significant weather event in December slips and a significant weather event in December 2014 slips and a significant weather event in December 2014 which event in December 2014 which required event in December 2014 which required two event in December 2014 which required two large event in December 2014 which required two large new event in December 2014 which required two large new retaining required two large new retaining walls. required two large new retaining walls. I'm required two large new retaining walls. I'm sure required two large new retaining walls. I'm sure the required two large new retaining walls. I'm sure the local required two large new retaining walls. I'm sure the local member walls. I'm sure the local member will walls. I'm sure the local member will welcome walls. I'm sure the local member will welcome this walls. I'm sure the local member will welcome this addition, walls. I'm sure the local member will welcome this addition, albeit will welcome this addition, albeit in will welcome this addition, albeit in the will welcome this addition, albeit in the scheme will welcome this addition, albeit in the scheme of will welcome this addition, albeit in the scheme of things, will welcome this addition, albeit in the scheme of things, a in the scheme of things, a relatively in the scheme of things, a relatively small in the scheme of things, a relatively small spend, in the scheme of things, a relatively small spend, to in the scheme of things, a relatively small spend, to make in the scheme of things, a relatively small spend, to make it relatively small spend, to make it more relatively small spend, to make it more reliable relatively small spend, to make it more reliable and relatively small spend, to make it more reliable and most relatively small spend, to make it more reliable and most importantly more reliable and most importantly safe. more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank you, more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank you, Mr more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To more reliable and most importantly safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the Minister safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the Minister - safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the Minister - if safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the Minister - if the safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. To the Minister - if the Brynderwyn safe. Thank you, Mr Speaker. 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Question Question No.12. Question Question No.12. 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This of the Rural Broadband Initiative is complete. This means of the Rural Broadband Initiative is complete. This means that of the Rural Broadband Initiative is complete. This means that almost of the Rural Broadband Initiative is complete. This means that almost 1.1 complete. This means that almost 1.1 million complete. This means that almost 1.1 million New complete. This means that almost 1.1 million New Zealand complete. This means that almost 1.1 million New Zealand households complete. This means that almost 1.1 million New Zealand households and million New Zealand households and businesses million New Zealand households and businesses now million New Zealand households and businesses now have million New Zealand households and businesses now have access million New Zealand households and businesses now have access to businesses now have access to ultrafast businesses now have access to ultrafast and businesses now have access to ultrafast and rural businesses now have access to ultrafast and rural broadband ultrafast and rural broadband ultrafast and rural broadband ultrafast and rural broadband nationwide. Today's ultrafast and rural broadband nationwide. Today's update ultrafast and rural broadband nationwide. Today's update also nationwide. Today's update also shows nationwide. Today's update also shows that nationwide. Today's update also shows that the nationwide. Today's update also shows that the UFB nationwide. Today's update also shows that the UFB build nationwide. Today's update also shows that the UFB build is nationwide. Today's update also shows that the UFB build is now shows that the UFB build is now fully shows that the UFB build is now fully completed shows that the UFB build is now fully completed in shows that the UFB build is now fully completed in 22 shows that the UFB build is now fully completed in 22 cities shows that the UFB build is now fully completed in 22 cities and fully completed in 22 cities and towns fully completed in 22 cities and towns across fully completed in 22 cities and towns across New fully completed in 22 cities and towns across New Zealand fully completed in 22 cities and towns across New Zealand and fully completed in 22 cities and towns across New Zealand and as fully completed in 22 cities and towns across New Zealand and as the towns across New Zealand and as the rollout towns across New Zealand and as the rollout gathers towns across New Zealand and as the rollout gathers pace towns across New Zealand and as the rollout gathers pace many towns across New Zealand and as the rollout gathers pace many more towns across New Zealand and as the rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon have rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon have access rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon have access to rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon have access to this rollout gathers pace many more Kiwis will soon have access to this world will soon have access to this world class will soon have access to this world class fibre. will soon have access to this world class fibre. Supplementary will soon have access to this world class fibre. Supplementary question. class fibre. Supplementary question. To class fibre. Supplementary question. To the class fibre. Supplementary question. To the Minister, class fibre. Supplementary question. To the Minister, how class fibre. Supplementary question. To the Minister, how are class fibre. Supplementary question. To the Minister, how are the To the Minister, how are the broadband To the Minister, how are the broadband programmes To the Minister, how are the broadband programmes tracking broadband programmes tracking against broadband programmes tracking against the broadband programmes tracking against the Government's broadband programmes tracking against the Government's targets? broadband programmes tracking against the Government's targets? We against the Government's targets? We are against the Government's targets? We are fast against the Government's targets? We are fast approaching against the Government's targets? We are fast approaching our against the Government's targets? We are fast approaching our target, are fast approaching our target, which are fast approaching our target, which is are fast approaching our target, which is for are fast approaching our target, which is for 1.5 are fast approaching our target, which is for 1.5 million are fast approaching our target, which is for 1.5 million households which is for 1.5 million households and which is for 1.5 million households and businesses which is for 1.5 million households and businesses to which is for 1.5 million households and businesses to be which is for 1.5 million households and businesses to be able which is for 1.5 million households and businesses to be able to which is for 1.5 million households and businesses to be able to connect and businesses to be able to connect to and businesses to be able to connect to UFB and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. For and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. For 85% and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. For 85% of and businesses to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to be to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to be able to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to be able to to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to be able to connect to UFB by 2019. For 85% of New Zealanders to be able to connect by Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. The Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. The update Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. The update also Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. The update also shows Zealanders to be able to connect by 2024. The update also shows New 2024. The update also shows New Zealanders 2024. The update also shows New Zealanders strong 2024. The update also shows New Zealanders strong demand 2024. The update also shows New Zealanders strong demand for 2024. The update also shows New Zealanders strong demand for UFB Zealanders strong demand for UFB with Zealanders strong demand for UFB with the Zealanders strong demand for UFB with the number Zealanders strong demand for UFB with the number of Zealanders strong demand for UFB with the number of households, with the number of households, businesses with the number of households, businesses and with the number of households, businesses and schools with the number of households, businesses and schools and with the number of households, businesses and schools and holds businesses and schools and holds connected businesses and schools and holds connected to businesses and schools and holds connected to UFB businesses and schools and holds connected to UFB increases businesses and schools and holds connected to UFB increases 12% businesses and schools and holds connected to UFB increases 12% in connected to UFB increases 12% in the connected to UFB increases 12% in the past connected to UFB increases 12% in the past three connected to UFB increases 12% in the past three months connected to UFB increases 12% in the past three months alone. connected to UFB increases 12% in the past three months alone. The the past three months alone. The first the past three months alone. The first phase the past three months alone. The first phase of the past three months alone. The first phase of RBI the past three months alone. The first phase of RBI delivered the past three months alone. 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I look forward hospitals outside of UFB areas. I look forward to hospitals outside of UFB areas. I look forward to making hospitals outside of UFB areas. 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