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And And acknowledging And acknowledging the And acknowledging the Independence And acknowledging the Independence Day And acknowledging the Independence Day of And acknowledging the Independence Day of Pakistan. And acknowledging the Independence Day of Pakistan. Leave And acknowledging the Independence Day of Pakistan. Leave is And acknowledging the Independence Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought And acknowledging the Independence Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course of Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course of action. Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course of action. Is Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there Day of Pakistan. Leave is sought for that course of action. Is there any that course of action. Is there any objection? that course of action. Is there any objection? 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Mr Speaker, I move that this House congratulates the that this House congratulates the Republic that this House congratulates the Republic of that this House congratulates the Republic of India that this House congratulates the Republic of India on that this House congratulates the Republic of India on the that this House congratulates the Republic of India on the occasion that this House congratulates the Republic of India on the occasion of Republic of India on the occasion of 70th Republic of India on the occasion of 70th anniversary Republic of India on the occasion of 70th anniversary of Republic of India on the occasion of 70th anniversary of Independence, 70th anniversary of Independence, marking 70th anniversary of Independence, marking the 70th anniversary of Independence, marking the day 70th anniversary of Independence, marking the day on 70th anniversary of Independence, marking the day on which 70th anniversary of Independence, marking the day on which United marking the day on which United Kingdom's marking the day on which United Kingdom's Parliament marking the day on which United Kingdom's Parliament passed marking the day on which United Kingdom's Parliament passed the Kingdom's Parliament passed the Indian Kingdom's Parliament passed the Indian Independence Kingdom's Parliament passed the Indian Independence Act Kingdom's Parliament passed the Indian Independence Act 1947, Kingdom's Parliament passed the Indian Independence Act 1947, and Indian Independence Act 1947, and that Indian Independence Act 1947, and that the Indian Independence Act 1947, and that the House Indian Independence Act 1947, and that the House also Indian Independence Act 1947, and that the House also acknowledges that the House also acknowledges Pakistan's that the House also acknowledges Pakistan's Independence that the House also acknowledges Pakistan's Independence Day, that the House also acknowledges Pakistan's Independence Day, which Pakistan's Independence Day, which was Pakistan's Independence Day, which was yesterday, Pakistan's Independence Day, which was yesterday, 14 Pakistan's Independence Day, which was yesterday, 14 August. 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And in this case, 150 young people And in this case, 150 young people who And in this case, 150 young people who have And in this case, 150 young people who have been And in this case, 150 young people who have been convicted And in this case, 150 young people who have been convicted of And in this case, 150 young people who have been convicted of the And in this case, 150 young people who have been convicted of the most who have been convicted of the most serious who have been convicted of the most serious crimes who have been convicted of the most serious crimes with who have been convicted of the most serious crimes with sentences who have been convicted of the most serious crimes with sentences up who have been convicted of the most serious crimes with sentences up to serious crimes with sentences up to 14 serious crimes with sentences up to 14 weeks. serious crimes with sentences up to 14 weeks. Labour's serious crimes with sentences up to 14 weeks. 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Did he consult the Children's Commissioner and Jacinda Ardern. 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And we want - well, we never give up on these young people. never give up on these young people. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> We <INTERRUPTION> We believe <INTERRUPTION> We believe there's <INTERRUPTION> We believe there's always <INTERRUPTION> We believe there's always hope <INTERRUPTION> We believe there's always hope and We believe there's always hope and we We believe there's always hope and we can We believe there's always hope and we can always We believe there's always hope and we can always do We believe there's always hope and we can always do better We believe there's always hope and we can always do better than We believe there's always hope and we can always do better than sending we can always do better than sending them we can always do better than sending them to we can always do better than sending them to prison, we can always do better than sending them to prison, where we can always do better than sending them to prison, where they we can always do better than sending them to prison, where they learn we can always do better than sending them to prison, where they learn how them to prison, where they learn how to them to prison, where they learn how to live them to prison, where they learn how to live a them to prison, where they learn how to live a life them to prison, where they learn how to live a life of them to prison, where they learn how to live a life of crime. 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We care about changing the lives of these about changing the lives of these most about changing the lives of these most challenging about changing the lives of these most challenging young about changing the lives of these most challenging young people. Question Question No. Question No. 2 Question No. 2 - Question No. 2 - James Question No. 2 - James Shaw. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Prime Minister: Does Prime Minister: Does he Prime Minister: Does he stand Prime Minister: Does he stand by Prime Minister: Does he stand by all Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his Prime Minister: Does he stand by all his policies? 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Including the water in our waterways. Including the the water in our waterways. Including the $100 the water in our waterways. Including the $100 million Including the $100 million improvement Including the $100 million improvement fund Including the $100 million improvement fund set Including the $100 million improvement fund set aside Including the $100 million improvement fund set aside in Including the $100 million improvement fund set aside in the improvement fund set aside in the Budget, improvement fund set aside in the Budget, and improvement fund set aside in the Budget, and the improvement fund set aside in the Budget, and the $45 improvement fund set aside in the Budget, and the $45 million improvement fund set aside in the Budget, and the $45 million of Budget, and the $45 million of projects Budget, and the $45 million of projects that Budget, and the $45 million of projects that we Budget, and the $45 million of projects that we announced Budget, and the $45 million of projects that we announced recently projects that we announced recently right projects that we announced recently right around projects that we announced recently right around New projects that we announced recently right around New Zealand, projects that we announced recently right around New Zealand, which right around New Zealand, which engage right around New Zealand, which engage communities right around New Zealand, which engage communities in right around New Zealand, which engage communities in the right around New Zealand, which engage communities in the project right around New Zealand, which engage communities in the project of engage communities in the project of raising engage communities in the project of raising the engage communities in the project of raising the quality engage communities in the project of raising the quality of engage communities in the project of raising the quality of their raising the quality of their waterways raising the quality of their waterways that raising the quality of their waterways that they raising the quality of their waterways that they care raising the quality of their waterways that they care about. raising the quality of their waterways that they care about. And waterways that they care about. And I waterways that they care about. And I would waterways that they care about. And I would welcome waterways that they care about. And I would welcome the waterways that they care about. And I would welcome the Greens' waterways that they care about. And I would welcome the Greens' support I would welcome the Greens' support for I would welcome the Greens' support for such I would welcome the Greens' support for such a I would welcome the Greens' support for such a move I would welcome the Greens' support for such a move now I would welcome the Greens' support for such a move now that I would welcome the Greens' support for such a move now that they've for such a move now that they've decided for such a move now that they've decided to for such a move now that they've decided to be for such a move now that they've decided to be a for such a move now that they've decided to be a Green for such a move now that they've decided to be a Green Party. decided to be a Green Party. Supplementary decided to be a Green Party. Supplementary question, decided to be a Green Party. Supplementary question, James decided to be a Green Party. Supplementary question, James Shaw. Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did real Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did real average Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did real average wages Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did real average wages in Supplementary question, James Shaw. Why did real average wages in the Why did real average wages in the private Why did real average wages in the private sector Why did real average wages in the private sector fall Why did real average wages in the private sector fall by Why did real average wages in the private sector fall by 0.5% Why did real average wages in the private sector fall by 0.5% in Why did real average wages in the private sector fall by 0.5% in the private sector fall by 0.5% in the year private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to June private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to June 2017, private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to June 2017, despite private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to June 2017, despite a private sector fall by 0.5% in the year to June 2017, despite a growing year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? Mr year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? Mr Speaker, year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? Mr Speaker, over year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? Mr Speaker, over the year to June 2017, despite a growing economy? Mr Speaker, over the last economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight years, economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight years, the economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight years, the average economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight years, the average wage economy? Mr Speaker, over the last eight years, the average wage has eight years, the average wage has risen eight years, the average wage has risen by eight years, the average wage has risen by twice eight years, the average wage has risen by twice the eight years, the average wage has risen by twice the rate eight years, the average wage has risen by twice the rate of risen by twice the rate of inflation. risen by twice the rate of inflation. And risen by twice the rate of inflation. 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These are serious issues to interfere in serious issues to interfere in another serious issues to interfere in another country's serious issues to interfere in another country's politics, serious issues to interfere in another country's politics, and serious issues to interfere in another country's politics, and it another country's politics, and it appears another country's politics, and it appears there's another country's politics, and it appears there's been another country's politics, and it appears there's been significant appears there's been significant misjudgments appears there's been significant misjudgments by appears there's been significant misjudgments by the appears there's been significant misjudgments by the member's appears there's been significant misjudgments by the member's fellow misjudgments by the member's fellow opposition misjudgments by the member's fellow opposition party. misjudgments by the member's fellow opposition party. Order! opposition party. 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If members want to have a well-controlled as it has been. If members want to have a discussion members want to have a discussion with members want to have a discussion with their members want to have a discussion with their parliamentary members want to have a discussion with their parliamentary colleagues, with their parliamentary colleagues, go with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside and with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside and do with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside and do so. with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside and do so. But with their parliamentary colleagues, go outside and do so. But don't go outside and do so. But don't continue go outside and do so. But don't continue to go outside and do so. But don't continue to chat go outside and do so. But don't continue to chat across go outside and do so. But don't continue to chat across the go outside and do so. But don't continue to chat across the Chamber. continue to chat across the Chamber. There's continue to chat across the Chamber. There's one continue to chat across the Chamber. There's one or continue to chat across the Chamber. There's one or two continue to chat across the Chamber. There's one or two members continue to chat across the Chamber. There's one or two members I There's one or two members I specifically There's one or two members I specifically have There's one or two members I specifically have my There's one or two members I specifically have my eye There's one or two members I specifically have my eye on. There's one or two members I specifically have my eye on. If There's one or two members I specifically have my eye on. If they specifically have my eye on. If they continue specifically have my eye on. If they continue to specifically have my eye on. If they continue to interject, specifically have my eye on. If they continue to interject, I specifically have my eye on. If they continue to interject, I may specifically have my eye on. If they continue to interject, I may well continue to interject, I may well ask continue to interject, I may well ask them continue to interject, I may well ask them to continue to interject, I may well ask them to leave. continue to interject, I may well ask them to leave. Supplementary ask them to leave. Supplementary question, ask them to leave. Supplementary question, James ask them to leave. Supplementary question, James Shaw. ask them to leave. Supplementary question, James Shaw. Thank ask them to leave. Supplementary question, James Shaw. Thank you, ask them to leave. Supplementary question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why are question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why are people's question, James Shaw. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Why are people's wages Speaker. Why are people's wages going Speaker. Why are people's wages going backwards Speaker. Why are people's wages going backwards when Speaker. Why are people's wages going backwards when we Speaker. Why are people's wages going backwards when we have going backwards when we have historically going backwards when we have historically low going backwards when we have historically low interest going backwards when we have historically low interest rates, historically low interest rates, highly historically low interest rates, highly favourable historically low interest rates, highly favourable terms historically low interest rates, highly favourable terms of historically low interest rates, highly favourable terms of trade, highly favourable terms of trade, and highly favourable terms of trade, and economic highly favourable terms of trade, and economic stimulus highly favourable terms of trade, and economic stimulus from and economic stimulus from rebuilding and economic stimulus from rebuilding Christchurch and economic stimulus from rebuilding Christchurch and and economic stimulus from rebuilding Christchurch and the rebuilding Christchurch and the housing rebuilding Christchurch and the housing shortage rebuilding Christchurch and the housing shortage in rebuilding Christchurch and the housing shortage in Auckland, rebuilding Christchurch and the housing shortage in Auckland, and rebuilding Christchurch and the housing shortage in Auckland, and a housing shortage in Auckland, and a booming housing shortage in Auckland, and a booming tourism housing shortage in Auckland, and a booming tourism sector? housing shortage in Auckland, and a booming tourism sector? Is housing shortage in Auckland, and a booming tourism sector? Is this booming tourism sector? Is this honestly booming tourism sector? Is this honestly the booming tourism sector? Is this honestly the best booming tourism sector? Is this honestly the best his booming tourism sector? Is this honestly the best his Government booming tourism sector? Is this honestly the best his Government can honestly the best his Government can do? honestly the best his Government can do? Mr honestly the best his Government can do? Mr Speaker, honestly the best his Government can do? Mr Speaker, as honestly the best his Government can do? Mr Speaker, as I've honestly the best his Government can do? Mr Speaker, as I've said honestly the best his Government can do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the real do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the real wages do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the real wages have do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the real wages have risen do? Mr Speaker, as I've said over time, the real wages have risen - time, the real wages have risen - wages time, the real wages have risen - wages have time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone up time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone up twice time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone up twice the time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone up twice the rate time, the real wages have risen - wages have gone up twice the rate of wages have gone up twice the rate of inflation. wages have gone up twice the rate of inflation. I'm wages have gone up twice the rate of inflation. I'm particularly wages have gone up twice the rate of inflation. I'm particularly pleased inflation. I'm particularly pleased with inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the number inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the number of inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the number of jobs inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the number of jobs that inflation. I'm particularly pleased with the number of jobs that this with the number of jobs that this economy with the number of jobs that this economy has with the number of jobs that this economy has been with the number of jobs that this economy has been generating with the number of jobs that this economy has been generating - economy has been generating - 180,000 economy has been generating - 180,000 over economy has been generating - 180,000 over the economy has been generating - 180,000 over the last economy has been generating - 180,000 over the last two economy has been generating - 180,000 over the last two years, 180,000 over the last two years, which 180,000 over the last two years, which means 180,000 over the last two years, which means that 180,000 over the last two years, which means that more 180,000 over the last two years, which means that more older 180,000 over the last two years, which means that more older people which means that more older people are which means that more older people are staying which means that more older people are staying on which means that more older people are staying on in which means that more older people are staying on in the which means that more older people are staying on in the workforce, are staying on in the workforce, thousands are staying on in the workforce, thousands of are staying on in the workforce, thousands of people are staying on in the workforce, thousands of people have are staying on in the workforce, thousands of people have come are staying on in the workforce, thousands of people have come off thousands of people have come off benefit thousands of people have come off benefit into thousands of people have come off benefit into work, thousands of people have come off benefit into work, and thousands of people have come off benefit into work, and school benefit into work, and school leaveers benefit into work, and school leaveers now benefit into work, and school leaveers now have benefit into work, and school leaveers now have more benefit into work, and school leaveers now have more opportunity leaveers now have more opportunity to leaveers now have more opportunity to find leaveers now have more opportunity to find a leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job than leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job than has leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job than has been leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job than has been the leaveers now have more opportunity to find a job than has been the case to find a job than has been the case for to find a job than has been the case for decades. to find a job than has been the case for decades. Some to find a job than has been the case for decades. Some of to find a job than has been the case for decades. Some of those to find a job than has been the case for decades. Some of those people for decades. Some of those people won't for decades. Some of those people won't be for decades. Some of those people won't be as for decades. Some of those people won't be as productive for decades. Some of those people won't be as productive as for decades. Some of those people won't be as productive as they for decades. Some of those people won't be as productive as they will won't be as productive as they will end won't be as productive as they will end up won't be as productive as they will end up being, won't be as productive as they will end up being, but won't be as productive as they will end up being, but they won't be as productive as they will end up being, but they are won't be as productive as they will end up being, but they are most end up being, but they are most welcome end up being, but they are most welcome in end up being, but they are most welcome in our end up being, but they are most welcome in our workforce. end up being, but they are most welcome in our workforce. If end up being, but they are most welcome in our workforce. If the welcome in our workforce. If the member's welcome in our workforce. If the member's suggesting welcome in our workforce. If the member's suggesting there's welcome in our workforce. If the member's suggesting there's too welcome in our workforce. If the member's suggesting there's too many member's suggesting there's too many jobs member's suggesting there's too many jobs - member's suggesting there's too many jobs - and member's suggesting there's too many jobs - and we'd member's suggesting there's too many jobs - and we'd be member's suggesting there's too many jobs - and we'd be more member's suggesting there's too many jobs - and we'd be more productive jobs - and we'd be more productive and jobs - and we'd be more productive and have jobs - and we'd be more productive and have higher jobs - and we'd be more productive and have higher wages jobs - and we'd be more productive and have higher wages if jobs - and we'd be more productive and have higher wages if we jobs - and we'd be more productive and have higher wages if we had and have higher wages if we had fewer and have higher wages if we had fewer new and have higher wages if we had fewer new jobs and have higher wages if we had fewer new jobs - and have higher wages if we had fewer new jobs - then and have higher wages if we had fewer new jobs - then I and have higher wages if we had fewer new jobs - then I simply fewer new jobs - then I simply disagree fewer new jobs - then I simply disagree with fewer new jobs - then I simply disagree with him. fewer new jobs - then I simply disagree with him. Speaking fewer new jobs - then I simply disagree with him. Speaking of disagree with him. Speaking of productivity, disagree with him. Speaking of productivity, is disagree with him. Speaking of productivity, is the disagree with him. Speaking of productivity, is the real disagree with him. Speaking of productivity, is the real problem productivity, is the real problem with productivity, is the real problem with wage productivity, is the real problem with wage stagnation productivity, is the real problem with wage stagnation that productivity, is the real problem with wage stagnation that labour with wage stagnation that labour productivity with wage stagnation that labour productivity growth with wage stagnation that labour productivity growth has with wage stagnation that labour productivity growth has been with wage stagnation that labour productivity growth has been zero productivity growth has been zero for productivity growth has been zero for the productivity growth has been zero for the last productivity growth has been zero for the last four productivity growth has been zero for the last four years, productivity growth has been zero for the last four years, as productivity growth has been zero for the last four years, as Treasury for the last four years, as Treasury has for the last four years, as Treasury has found, for the last four years, as Treasury has found, and for the last four years, as Treasury has found, and without for the last four years, as Treasury has found, and without labour has found, and without labour productivity has found, and without labour productivity growth, has found, and without labour productivity growth, there has found, and without labour productivity growth, there can has found, and without labour productivity growth, there can be has found, and without labour productivity growth, there can be no productivity growth, there can be no meaningful productivity growth, there can be no meaningful long-term productivity growth, there can be no meaningful long-term gains productivity growth, there can be no meaningful long-term gains for meaningful long-term gains for working meaningful long-term gains for working people? meaningful long-term gains for working people? First, meaningful long-term gains for working people? First, I meaningful long-term gains for working people? First, I understand working people? First, I understand the working people? First, I understand the member's working people? First, I understand the member's calculations working people? First, I understand the member's calculations are working people? First, I understand the member's calculations are wrong. the member's calculations are wrong. As the member's calculations are wrong. As I the member's calculations are wrong. As I said the member's calculations are wrong. As I said before, the member's calculations are wrong. As I said before, this the member's calculations are wrong. As I said before, this is the member's calculations are wrong. As I said before, this is an the member's calculations are wrong. As I said before, this is an economy As I said before, this is an economy producing As I said before, this is an economy producing thousands As I said before, this is an economy producing thousands of As I said before, this is an economy producing thousands of new As I said before, this is an economy producing thousands of new jobs As I said before, this is an economy producing thousands of new jobs - producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 over producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 over the producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 over the last producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 over the last two producing thousands of new jobs - 180,000 over the last two years. 180,000 over the last two years. That 180,000 over the last two years. That means 180,000 over the last two years. That means a 180,000 over the last two years. That means a lot 180,000 over the last two years. That means a lot of 180,000 over the last two years. That means a lot of people 180,000 over the last two years. That means a lot of people with That means a lot of people with lower That means a lot of people with lower skills That means a lot of people with lower skills and That means a lot of people with lower skills and less That means a lot of people with lower skills and less experience That means a lot of people with lower skills and less experience now lower skills and less experience now have lower skills and less experience now have the lower skills and less experience now have the opportunity lower skills and less experience now have the opportunity to lower skills and less experience now have the opportunity to join lower skills and less experience now have the opportunity to join the have the opportunity to join the workforce, have the opportunity to join the workforce, so have the opportunity to join the workforce, so much have the opportunity to join the workforce, so much so have the opportunity to join the workforce, so much so that have the opportunity to join the workforce, so much so that we have the opportunity to join the workforce, so much so that we have workforce, so much so that we have the workforce, so much so that we have the highest workforce, so much so that we have the highest proportion workforce, so much so that we have the highest proportion of workforce, so much so that we have the highest proportion of the workforce, so much so that we have the highest proportion of the adult the highest proportion of the adult population the highest proportion of the adult population in the highest proportion of the adult population in work the highest proportion of the adult population in work than the highest proportion of the adult population in work than New the highest proportion of the adult population in work than New Zealand population in work than New Zealand has population in work than New Zealand has ever population in work than New Zealand has ever had population in work than New Zealand has ever had - population in work than New Zealand has ever had - more population in work than New Zealand has ever had - more of population in work than New Zealand has ever had - more of our population in work than New Zealand has ever had - more of our adult has ever had - more of our adult population has ever had - more of our adult population in has ever had - more of our adult population in work has ever had - more of our adult population in work than has ever had - more of our adult population in work than has has ever had - more of our adult population in work than has ever population in work than has ever been population in work than has ever been the population in work than has ever been the case. population in work than has ever been the case. 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Now, if the member believes they should all be more believes they should all be more productive, believes they should all be more productive, he's believes they should all be more productive, he's welcome believes they should all be more productive, he's welcome to believes they should all be more productive, he's welcome to turn believes they should all be more productive, he's welcome to turn up productive, he's welcome to turn up to productive, he's welcome to turn up to the productive, he's welcome to turn up to the workplace productive, he's welcome to turn up to the workplace and productive, he's welcome to turn up to the workplace and shout productive, he's welcome to turn up to the workplace and shout at productive, he's welcome to turn up to the workplace and shout at them, to the workplace and shout at them, tell to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to work to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to work harder. to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to work harder. But to the workplace and shout at them, tell them to work harder. But we tell them to work harder. But we welcome tell them to work harder. But we welcome them tell them to work harder. But we welcome them coming tell them to work harder. But we welcome them coming into tell them to work harder. But we welcome them coming into the welcome them coming into the workforce. welcome them coming into the workforce. Does welcome them coming into the workforce. Does he welcome them coming into the workforce. Does he agree welcome them coming into the workforce. Does he agree with workforce. Does he agree with business workforce. Does he agree with business journalist workforce. Does he agree with business journalist Brian workforce. 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There's also the Reserve Bank Monetary Policy Statement. There's also the latest Statement. There's also the latest performance Statement. There's also the latest performance of Statement. There's also the latest performance of serves Statement. There's also the latest performance of serves index Statement. 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That sector's overall activity remains above the long-term average, remains above the long-term average, with remains above the long-term average, with the remains above the long-term average, with the employment remains above the long-term average, with the employment and remains above the long-term average, with the employment and new remains above the long-term average, with the employment and new business with the employment and new business expectations with the employment and new business expectations the with the employment and new business expectations the clear with the employment and new business expectations the clear standouts with the employment and new business expectations the clear standouts in expectations the clear standouts in July. expectations the clear standouts in July. The expectations the clear standouts in July. The services expectations the clear standouts in July. The services sector expectations the clear standouts in July. The services sector accounts July. The services sector accounts for July. The services sector accounts for around July. The services sector accounts for around two-thirds July. The services sector accounts for around two-thirds of July. The services sector accounts for around two-thirds of the July. The services sector accounts for around two-thirds of the New for around two-thirds of the New Zealand for around two-thirds of the New Zealand economy, for around two-thirds of the New Zealand economy, has for around two-thirds of the New Zealand economy, has now for around two-thirds of the New Zealand economy, has now been for around two-thirds of the New Zealand economy, has now been in Zealand economy, has now been in expansion Zealand economy, has now been in expansion for Zealand economy, has now been in expansion for six Zealand economy, has now been in expansion for six continuous Zealand economy, has now been in expansion for six continuous years. expansion for six continuous years. How expansion for six continuous years. How is expansion for six continuous years. How is the expansion for six continuous years. How is the manufacturing expansion for six continuous years. How is the manufacturing side expansion for six continuous years. How is the manufacturing side of expansion for six continuous years. How is the manufacturing side of the How is the manufacturing side of the economy How is the manufacturing side of the economy faring? How is the manufacturing side of the economy faring? Good How is the manufacturing side of the economy faring? Good question. How is the manufacturing side of the economy faring? Good question. Like economy faring? Good question. Like the economy faring? Good question. Like the services economy faring? Good question. Like the services sector, economy faring? Good question. 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In almost six years of continuous expansion. In fact, almost six years of continuous expansion. In fact, roughly almost six years of continuous expansion. In fact, roughly since expansion. In fact, roughly since the expansion. In fact, roughly since the Labour expansion. In fact, roughly since the Labour Party expansion. In fact, roughly since the Labour Party started expansion. In fact, roughly since the Labour Party started declaring the Labour Party started declaring it the Labour Party started declaring it a the Labour Party started declaring it a crisis. the Labour Party started declaring it a crisis. The the Labour Party started declaring it a crisis. The momentum the Labour Party started declaring it a crisis. The momentum looks the Labour Party started declaring it a crisis. The momentum looks set it a crisis. The momentum looks set to it a crisis. The momentum looks set to continue, it a crisis. The momentum looks set to continue, with it a crisis. The momentum looks set to continue, with BNZ it a crisis. The momentum looks set to continue, with BNZ economist it a crisis. The momentum looks set to continue, with BNZ economist Doug to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele saying to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele saying it to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele saying it bodes to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele saying it bodes well to continue, with BNZ economist Doug Steele saying it bodes well for Steele saying it bodes well for manufacturing Steele saying it bodes well for manufacturing GDP Steele saying it bodes well for manufacturing GDP growth Steele saying it bodes well for manufacturing GDP growth to Steele saying it bodes well for manufacturing GDP growth to continue manufacturing GDP growth to continue outperforming manufacturing GDP growth to continue outperforming its manufacturing GDP growth to continue outperforming its long-run manufacturing GDP growth to continue outperforming its long-run average, outperforming its long-run average, as outperforming its long-run average, as it outperforming its long-run average, as it has outperforming its long-run average, as it has for outperforming its long-run average, as it has for the outperforming its long-run average, as it has for the last outperforming its long-run average, as it has for the last three outperforming its long-run average, as it has for the last three years. as it has for the last three years. 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Why don't you tell the down the bottom of the OECD. Why don't you tell the public down the bottom of the OECD. Why don't you tell the public the down the bottom of the OECD. Why don't you tell the public the truth? don't you tell the public the truth? The don't you tell the public the truth? The member, don't you tell the public the truth? The member, I don't you tell the public the truth? The member, I think, don't you tell the public the truth? The member, I think, suffers don't you tell the public the truth? The member, I think, suffers from The member, I think, suffers from what The member, I think, suffers from what I The member, I think, suffers from what I call The member, I think, suffers from what I call the The member, I think, suffers from what I call the Peters The member, I think, suffers from what I call the Peters fallacy, what I call the Peters fallacy, which what I call the Peters fallacy, which is what I call the Peters fallacy, which is - what I call the Peters fallacy, which is - he what I call the Peters fallacy, which is - he thinks what I call the Peters fallacy, which is - he thinks that what I call the Peters fallacy, which is - he thinks that it's which is - he thinks that it's immigration which is - he thinks that it's immigration that which is - he thinks that it's immigration that drives which is - he thinks that it's immigration that drives growth which is - he thinks that it's immigration that drives growth and immigration that drives growth and it's immigration that drives growth and it's growth immigration that drives growth and it's growth that immigration that drives growth and it's growth that drives immigration that drives growth and it's growth that drives immigration. it's growth that drives immigration. The it's growth that drives immigration. The reason it's growth that drives immigration. The reason people it's growth that drives immigration. The reason people want it's growth that drives immigration. The reason people want to it's growth that drives immigration. The reason people want to work it's growth that drives immigration. 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In the last five years 150,000 people who were years 150,000 people who were predicted years 150,000 people who were predicted to years 150,000 people who were predicted to leave years 150,000 people who were predicted to leave New predicted to leave New Zealand predicted to leave New predicted to leave New Zealand actually stayed predicted to leave New Zealand actually stayed here predicted to leave New Zealand actually stayed here and predicted to leave New Zealand actually stayed here and that predicted to leave New Zealand actually stayed here and that is actually stayed here and that is success. actually stayed here and that is success. Question actually stayed here and that is success. Question No.6. success. success. Question success. Question No.6. 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Yesterday the Government announced a in recent times. Yesterday the Government announced a package in recent times. Yesterday the Government announced a package of in recent times. Yesterday the Government announced a package of 17 Government announced a package of 17 new Government announced a package of 17 new initiatives Government announced a package of 17 new initiatives designed Government announced a package of 17 new initiatives designed to Government announced a package of 17 new initiatives designed to improve new initiatives designed to improve access new initiatives designed to improve access to new initiatives designed to improve access to effective new initiatives designed to improve access to effective and new initiatives designed to improve access to effective and responsive access to effective and responsive mental access to effective and responsive mental health access to effective and responsive mental health services access to effective and responsive mental health services while access to effective and responsive mental health services while at access to effective and responsive mental health services while at the mental health services while at the same mental health services while at the same time mental health services while at the same time starting mental health services while at the same time starting to mental health services while at the same time starting to shift mental health services while at the same time starting to shift our same time starting to shift our focus same time starting to shift our focus towards same time starting to shift our focus towards prevention, same time starting to shift our focus towards prevention, early focus towards prevention, early intervention focus towards prevention, early intervention and focus towards prevention, early intervention and resilience intervention and resilience building. intervention and resilience building. 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The new approach includes improving mental health across the improving mental health across the life improving mental health across the life course improving mental health across the life course by improving mental health across the life course by helping improving mental health across the life course by helping the improving mental health across the life course by helping the build life course by helping the build resilience life course by helping the build resilience in life course by helping the build resilience in children life course by helping the build resilience in children and life course by helping the build resilience in children and young resilience in children and young people resilience in children and young people and resilience in children and young people and by resilience in children and young people and by addressing resilience in children and young people and by addressing known resilience in children and young people and by addressing known risk people and by addressing known risk factors, people and by addressing known risk factors, including people and by addressing known risk factors, including trauma, people and by addressing known risk factors, including trauma, early on factors, including trauma, early on in factors, including trauma, early on in life. factors, including trauma, early on in life. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Housing: Minister for Social Housing: Does Minister for Social Housing: Does she Minister for Social Housing: Does she agree Does she agree with Does she agree with the Does she agree with the Salvation Does she agree with the Salvation Army with the Salvation Army that with the Salvation Army that the with the Salvation Army that the Government with the Salvation Army that the Government needs that the Government needs to that the Government needs to increase to increase the to increase the number to increase the number of to increase the number of social to increase the number of social houses the number of social houses it the number of social houses it builds the number of social houses it builds by the number of social houses it builds by 20 the number of social houses it builds by 20 times it builds by 20 times to it builds by 20 times to meet it builds by 20 times to meet demand? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: Minister of Education: Does Minister of Education: Does she Minister of Education: Does she stand Minister of Education: Does she stand by Minister of Education: Does she stand by all Minister of Education: Does she stand by all her Minister of Education: Does she stand by all her comments Does she stand by all her comments on Does she stand by all her comments on education Does she stand by all her comments on education affordability; on education affordability; if on education affordability; if so, on education affordability; if so, how? Yes Yes in Yes in the Yes in the context Yes in the context in Yes in the context in which Yes in the context in which they Yes in the context in which they were Yes in the context in which they were made. Yes in the context in which they were made. This Yes in the context in which they were made. This financial Yes in the context in which they were made. This financial year Yes in the context in which they were made. This financial year our were made. This financial year our investment were made. This financial year our investment education were made. This financial year our investment education amounts were made. This financial year our investment education amounts to were made. This financial year our investment education amounts to over investment education amounts to over $11 investment education amounts to over $11 billion, investment education amounts to over $11 billion, the investment education amounts to over $11 billion, the highest investment education amounts to over $11 billion, the highest ever $11 billion, the highest ever investment $11 billion, the highest ever investment in $11 billion, the highest ever investment in public $11 billion, the highest ever investment in public education. investment in public education. Funding investment in public education. Funding for investment in public education. Funding for schools investment in public education. Funding for schools has investment in public education. Funding for schools has gone investment in public education. Funding for schools has gone up investment in public education. Funding for schools has gone up by Funding for schools has gone up by 35% Funding for schools has gone up by 35% since Funding for schools has gone up by 35% since 2008/09 Funding for schools has gone up by 35% since 2008/09 and Funding for schools has gone up by 35% since 2008/09 and operational 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant funding 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant funding has 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant funding has increased 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant funding has increased by 35% since 2008/09 and operational grant funding has increased by 37%. grant funding has increased by 37%. In grant funding has increased by 37%. In fact, grant funding has increased by 37%. In fact, no grant funding has increased by 37%. In fact, no other grant funding has increased by 37%. In fact, no other OECD grant funding has increased by 37%. In fact, no other OECD country In fact, no other OECD country spends In fact, no other OECD country spends a In fact, no other OECD country spends a higher In fact, no other OECD country spends a higher percentage In fact, no other OECD country spends a higher percentage of In fact, no other OECD country spends a higher percentage of the spends a higher percentage of the public spends a higher percentage of the public funding spends a higher percentage of the public funding on spends a higher percentage of the public funding on education. spends a higher percentage of the public funding on education. As spends a higher percentage of the public funding on education. As the public funding on education. As the over public funding on education. As the over arching public funding on education. As the over arching Education public funding on education. As the over arching Education Minister, over arching Education Minister, what over arching Education Minister, what reports over arching Education Minister, what reports has over arching Education Minister, what reports has she over arching Education Minister, what reports has she seen over arching Education Minister, what reports has she seen regarding what reports has she seen regarding the what reports has she seen regarding the Government's what reports has she seen regarding the Government's reduction what reports has she seen regarding the Government's reduction in what reports has she seen regarding the Government's reduction in the the Government's reduction in the post the Government's reduction in the post secondary the Government's reduction in the post secondary education the Government's reduction in the post secondary education budget the Government's reduction in the post secondary education budget from post secondary education budget from 2.9% post secondary education budget from 2.9% of post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in 2019 post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% post secondary education budget from 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of GDP 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of GDP according 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of GDP according to 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of GDP according to Treasury's 2.9% of GDP in 2019 to only 1.67% of GDP according to Treasury's budget GDP according to Treasury's budget and GDP according to Treasury's budget and economic GDP according to Treasury's budget and economic fiscal GDP according to Treasury's budget and economic fiscal update GDP according to Treasury's budget and economic fiscal update 2016? 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So there is a range of other measures out there range of other measures out there that range of other measures out there that show range of other measures out there that show we range of other measures out there that show we are range of other measures out there that show we are improving range of other measures out there that show we are improving the that show we are improving the affordability that show we are improving the affordability of that show we are improving the affordability of education. that show we are improving the affordability of education. As that show we are improving the affordability of education. As the affordability of education. As the overarching affordability of education. As the overarching Education affordability of education. As the overarching Education Minister affordability of education. As the overarching Education Minister does overarching Education Minister does overarching Education Minister does overarching Education Minister does she stand overarching Education Minister does she stand by overarching Education Minister does she stand by her overarching Education Minister does she stand by her statement overarching Education Minister does she stand by her statement that, overarching Education Minister does she stand by her statement that, "We she stand by her statement that, "We are she stand by her statement that, "We are incredibly she stand by her statement that, "We are incredibly focused she stand by her statement that, "We are incredibly focused on she stand by her statement that, "We are incredibly focused on ensuring are incredibly focused on ensuring that are incredibly focused on ensuring that we are incredibly focused on ensuring that we have are incredibly focused on ensuring that we have reform are incredibly focused on ensuring that we have reform of are incredibly focused on ensuring that we have reform of our are incredibly focused on ensuring that we have reform of our tertiary that we have reform of our tertiary education that we have reform of our tertiary education system"? that we have reform of our tertiary education system"? 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It is a lot better than he is saying. onboard and cheer up. It is a lot better than he is saying. Question better than he is saying. Question No.11. No.11. 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I'd like to carry on, another Further supplementary. I'd like to carry on, another important Further supplementary. I'd like to carry on, another important point Further supplementary. I'd like to carry on, another important point to carry on, another important point to conclude carry on, another important point to conclude this carry on, another important point to conclude this question carry on, another important point to conclude this question is carry on, another important point to conclude this question is a carry on, another important point to conclude this question is a recent conclude this question is a recent conclude this question is a recent conclude this question is a recent report estimated conclude this question is a recent report estimated that conclude this question is a recent report estimated that the conclude this question is a recent report estimated that the economic report estimated that the economic cost report estimated that the economic cost to report estimated that the economic cost to the report estimated that the economic cost to the Nelson-Tasman report estimated that the economic cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building the cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building the dam cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building the dam would cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building the dam would be cost to the Nelson-Tasman region, not building the dam would be more not building the dam would be more than not building the dam would be more than $1 not building the dam would be more than $1 billion not building the dam would be more than $1 billion over not building the dam would be more than $1 billion over 25 not building the dam would be more than $1 billion over 25 years. Supplementary Supplementary question, Supplementary question, Maureen Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is Supplementary question, Maureen Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Waimea Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Waimea Community Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Waimea Community Dam Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Waimea Community Dam weak Pugh. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is the Waimea Community Dam weak compared Waimea Community Dam weak compared to Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest of Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest of the Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest of the country? Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest of the country? I Waimea Community Dam weak compared to the rest of the country? I don't to the rest of the country? I don't think to the rest of the country? I don't think that to the rest of the country? I don't think that it to the rest of the country? I don't think that it is to the rest of the country? I don't think that it is too to the rest of the country? I don't think that it is too dissimilar to the rest of the country? 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I supplied to town municipal supplies. I would supplied to town municipal supplies. I would say supplied to town municipal supplies. I would say that supplied to town municipal supplies. I would say that agreeing supplied to town municipal supplies. I would say that agreeing to supplied to town municipal supplies. 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This kind of position would really highlight a position would really highlight a policy position would really highlight a policy for position would really highlight a policy for what position would really highlight a policy for what it position would really highlight a policy for what it is position would really highlight a policy for what it is - position would really highlight a policy for what it is - it's policy for what it is - it's ill-thought-out policy for what it is - it's ill-thought-out and policy for what it is - it's ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a blatant ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a blatant attack ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a blatant attack on ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a blatant attack on farmers ill-thought-out and ill-conceived, and a blatant attack on farmers who, and a blatant attack on farmers who, ultimately, and a blatant attack on farmers who, ultimately, may and a blatant attack on farmers who, ultimately, may transfer and a blatant attack on farmers who, ultimately, may transfer to and a blatant attack on farmers who, ultimately, may transfer to growing ultimately, may transfer to growing apples. ultimately, may transfer to growing apples. 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I seek leave to table a detailed policy that hasn't publicly detailed policy that hasn't publicly been detailed policy that hasn't publicly been released detailed policy that hasn't publicly been released yet detailed policy that hasn't publicly been released yet that detailed policy that hasn't publicly been released yet that confirms detailed policy that hasn't publicly been released yet that confirms the been released yet that confirms the Waimea been released yet that confirms the Waimea Community been released yet that confirms the Waimea Community Dam been released yet that confirms the Waimea Community Dam will been released yet that confirms the Waimea Community Dam will proceed Waimea Community Dam will proceed under Waimea Community Dam will proceed under a Waimea Community Dam will proceed under a Labour Waimea Community Dam will proceed under a Labour government. Waimea Community Dam will proceed under a Labour government. Order! under a Labour government. Order! No, under a Labour government. Order! No, there under a Labour government. Order! No, there is under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no need under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no need for under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no need for me under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no need for me to under a Labour government. Order! No, there is no need for me to put No, there is no need for me to put that No, there is no need for me to put that leave No, there is no need for me to put that leave to No, there is no need for me to put that leave to the No, there is no need for me to put that leave to the House. that leave to the House. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Question <INTERRUPTION> Question No. <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 12 <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 12 - <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 12 - Marama <INTERRUPTION> Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is a Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is a point Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is a point of Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is a point of order. Question No. 12 - Marama Davidson. Order! This is a point of order. I Order! This is a point of order. I seek Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave to Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave to table Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave to table a Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave to table a report Order! This is a point of order. I seek leave to table a report on Order! This is a point of order. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Housing: Minister for Social Housing: Why Minister for Social Housing: Why has Minister for Social Housing: Why has Housing Minister for Social Housing: Why has Housing New Minister for Social Housing: Why has Housing New Zealand Why has Housing New Zealand built Why has Housing New Zealand built only Why has Housing New Zealand built only 125 Why has Housing New Zealand built only 125 more Why has Housing New Zealand built only 125 more houses built only 125 more houses than built only 125 more houses than it built only 125 more houses than it has built only 125 more houses than it has demolished than it has demolished across than it has demolished across New than it has demolished across New Zealand than it has demolished across New Zealand since than it has demolished across New Zealand since June than it has demolished across New Zealand since June 2009? 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Since changes under the Auckland Unitary Plan took place. Since that's changes under the Auckland Unitary Plan took place. Since that's been Plan took place. Since that's been confirmed Plan took place. Since that's been confirmed the, Plan took place. Since that's been confirmed the, Government Plan took place. Since that's been confirmed the, Government signed Plan took place. Since that's been confirmed the, Government signed off confirmed the, Government signed off on confirmed the, Government signed off on a confirmed the, Government signed off on a multibillion-dollar confirmed the, Government signed off on a multibillion-dollar programme on a multibillion-dollar programme to on a multibillion-dollar programme to build on a multibillion-dollar programme to build 13,500 on a multibillion-dollar programme to build 13,500 new on a multibillion-dollar programme to build 13,500 new social on a multibillion-dollar programme to build 13,500 new social houses on a multibillion-dollar programme to build 13,500 new social houses in to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland alone, to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland alone, as to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland alone, as well to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland alone, as well as to build 13,500 new social houses in Auckland alone, as well as large Auckland alone, as well as large build Auckland alone, as well as large build programmes Auckland alone, as well as large build programmes in Auckland alone, as well as large build programmes in areas Auckland alone, as well as large build programmes in areas like build programmes in areas like Christchurch, build programmes in areas like Christchurch, Wellington build programmes in areas like Christchurch, Wellington and build programmes in areas like Christchurch, Wellington and the Christchurch, Wellington and the Hutt Christchurch, Wellington and the Hutt Valley. 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Does the minister think it is acceptable that pensioners, is acceptable that pensioners, beneficiaries is acceptable that pensioners, beneficiaries and is acceptable that pensioners, beneficiaries and other is acceptable that pensioners, beneficiaries and other low-income beneficiaries and other low-income New beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders may beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders may be beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders may be paying beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders may be paying up beneficiaries and other low-income New Zealanders may be paying up to New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their income New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their income in New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their income in rents New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their income in rents due New Zealanders may be paying up to 75% of their income in rents due to 75% of their income in rents due to the 75% of their income in rents due to the shortage 75% of their income in rents due to the shortage of 75% of their income in rents due to the shortage of state 75% of their income in rents due to the shortage of state housing 75% of their income in rents due to the shortage of state housing caused the shortage of state housing caused by the shortage of state housing caused by the the shortage of state housing caused by the Government's the shortage of state housing caused by the Government's failure the shortage of state housing caused by the Government's failure to the shortage of state housing caused by the Government's failure to build by the Government's failure to build enough by the Government's failure to build enough state by the Government's failure to build enough state houses? by the Government's failure to build enough state houses? 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Mr the latest water-contamination scare in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the latest water-contamination scare in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the report in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the report of in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the report of the in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the report of the Havelock in North Dunedin? Mr Speaker, the report of the Havelock North report of the Havelock North Drinking report of the Havelock North Drinking Water report of the Havelock North Drinking Water Inquiry report of the Havelock North Drinking Water Inquiry stated report of the Havelock North Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: "Responses Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: "Responses to Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: "Responses to the Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: "Responses to the August Drinking Water Inquiry stated that: "Responses to the August 2016 "Responses to the August 2016 outbreak "Responses to the August 2016 outbreak were "Responses to the August 2016 outbreak were generally outbreak were generally well-handled, outbreak were generally well-handled, particularly outbreak were generally well-handled, particularly by outbreak were generally well-handled, particularly by the well-handled, particularly by the Hawke's well-handled, particularly by the Hawke's Bay well-handled, particularly by the Hawke's Bay DHB." well-handled, particularly by the Hawke's Bay DHB." 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I call on Government order of the day call on Government order of the day number call on Government order of the day number 1. number 1. Enhancing number 1. Enhancing Identity number 1. Enhancing Identity Verification number 1. Enhancing Identity Verification and Enhancing Identity Verification and Border Enhancing Identity Verification and Border Processes Enhancing Identity Verification and Border Processes Legislation Enhancing Identity Verification and Border Processes Legislation Bill Enhancing Identity Verification and Border Processes Legislation Bill - Border Processes Legislation Bill - committee Border Processes Legislation Bill - committee stage. I I declare I declare the I declare the House I declare the House in I declare the House in committee I declare the House in committee for I declare the House in committee for consideration I declare the House in committee for consideration of I declare the House in committee for consideration of the I declare the House in committee for consideration of the Enhancing consideration of the Enhancing Identity consideration of the Enhancing Identity Verification consideration of the Enhancing Identity Verification and