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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, humbly Almighty God, humbly acknowledging Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need Almighty God, humbly acknowledging our need for your your guidance your guidance in your guidance in all your guidance in all things, your guidance in all things, and your guidance in all things, and laying your guidance in all things, and laying aside your guidance in all things, and laying aside all your guidance in all things, and laying aside all private and laying aside all private and and laying aside all private and personal and laying aside all private and personal interests, and personal interests, we and personal interests, we ask and personal interests, we ask that and personal interests, we ask that you and personal interests, we ask that you grant INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: We INTERPRETER: We pray INTERPRETER: We pray for INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in our INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in our deliberations INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in our deliberations that INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in our deliberations that we INTERPRETER: We pray for guidance in our deliberations that we may our deliberations that we may conduct our deliberations that we may conduct the our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this our deliberations that we may conduct the affairs of this House conduct the affairs of this House with conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility for conduct the affairs of this House with wisdom and humility for the with wisdom and humility for the public with wisdom and humility for the public welfare with wisdom and humility for the public welfare and with wisdom and humility for the public welfare and peace with wisdom and humility for the public welfare and peace of with wisdom and humility for the public welfare and peace of New public welfare and peace of New Zealand. public welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Mr Mr Speaker. Mr Speaker. A Mr Speaker. A point Mr Speaker. A point of Mr Speaker. A point of order. Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Hon Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Hon Chris Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. A Mr Speaker. A point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. A business Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Mr Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Mr Speaker. Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you Hon Chris Hipkins. A business statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do it statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do it off statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do it off a statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do it off a point statement, Mr Speaker. Yes, you do it off a point of statement, Mr Speaker. 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On questions. There'll be maiden speeches each day. On Tuesday questions. There'll be maiden speeches each day. On Tuesday and speeches each day. On Tuesday and Wednesday speeches each day. On Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, speeches each day. On Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, the speeches each day. On Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, the House speeches each day. On Tuesday and Wednesday evenings, the House will Wednesday evenings, the House will consider Wednesday evenings, the House will consider Government Wednesday evenings, the House will consider Government business, consider Government business, including consider Government business, including the consider Government business, including the remaining consider Government business, including the remaining stages consider Government business, including the remaining stages of including the remaining stages of the including the remaining stages of the Parental including the remaining stages of the Parental Leave including the remaining stages of the Parental Leave and including the remaining stages of the Parental Leave and Employment the Parental Leave and Employment Protection the Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment the Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill. the Parental Leave and Employment Protection Amendment Bill. On Protection Amendment Bill. On Thursday, Protection Amendment Bill. On Thursday, the Protection Amendment Bill. On Thursday, the House Protection Amendment Bill. On Thursday, the House will Protection Amendment Bill. On Thursday, the House will adjourn Thursday, the House will adjourn until Thursday, the House will adjourn until Tuesday, Thursday, the House will adjourn until Tuesday, 28 Thursday, the House will adjourn until Tuesday, 28 November. until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering from until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering from the until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering from the new until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering from the new Leader until Tuesday, 28 November. I'm wondering from the new Leader of I'm wondering from the new Leader of the I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House when I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House when we I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House when we can I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House when we can expect I'm wondering from the new Leader of the House when we can expect the the House when we can expect the real the House when we can expect the real legislation. the House when we can expect the real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker there real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker there is real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker there is plenty real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation. <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker there is plenty of real Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation in Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation in the Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation in the pipeline. Mr Speaker there is plenty of real legislation in the pipeline. The legislation in the pipeline. The member legislation in the pipeline. The member will legislation in the pipeline. The member will just legislation in the pipeline. The member will just need legislation in the pipeline. The member will just need to legislation in the pipeline. The member will just need to hold legislation in the pipeline. The member will just need to hold his member will just need to hold his horses member will just need to hold his horses a member will just need to hold his horses a little member will just need to hold his horses a little bit member will just need to hold his horses a little bit longer. member will just need to hold his horses a little bit longer. Order. 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Does he agree with the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, that the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, that the the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, that the need the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, that the need for the statement of Phil Twyford on 28 June 2013, that the need for the June 2013, that the need for the June 2013, that the need for the June 2013, that the need for the East West June 2013, that the need for the East West Link June 2013, that the need for the East West Link has June 2013, that the need for the East West Link has long June 2013, that the need for the East West Link has long been June 2013, that the need for the East West Link has long been obvious East West Link has long been obvious to East West Link has long been obvious to New East West Link has long been obvious to New Zealanders. 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Can he confirm the funding is $1 Can he confirm the funding is $1 billion Can he confirm the funding is $1 billion allocated Can he confirm the funding is $1 billion allocated every Can he confirm the funding is $1 billion allocated every year Can he confirm the funding is $1 billion allocated every year will billion allocated every year will billion allocated every year will billion allocated every year will all be billion allocated every year will all be new billion allocated every year will all be new funding billion allocated every year will all be new funding rather billion allocated every year will all be new funding rather than billion allocated every year will all be new funding rather than from all be new funding rather than from existing all be new funding rather than from existing funding? all be new funding rather than from existing funding? I all be new funding rather than from existing funding? I can all be new funding rather than from existing funding? 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I repeat again, sir, that the full content, budget '18? I repeat again, sir, that the full content, structure budget '18? I repeat again, sir, that the full content, structure and that the full content, structure and character that the full content, structure and character of that the full content, structure and character of the that the full content, structure and character of the fund that the full content, structure and character of the fund will that the full content, structure and character of the fund will be that the full content, structure and character of the fund will be dealt character of the fund will be dealt with character of the fund will be dealt with conclusionively character of the fund will be dealt with conclusionively in character of the fund will be dealt with conclusionively in the character of the fund will be dealt with conclusionively in the budget with conclusionively in the budget policy with conclusionively in the budget policy process with conclusionively in the budget policy process -- with conclusionively in the budget policy process -- conclusionively with conclusionively in the budget policy process -- conclusionively in policy process -- conclusionively in the policy process -- conclusionively in the budget policy process -- conclusionively in the budget process. policy process -- conclusionively in the budget process. Just the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold on. the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give the budget process. Just INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail at INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail at all INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail at all about INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail at all about where INTERPRETER: Hold on. Can he give me any detail at all about where the any detail at all about where the money any detail at all about where the money is any detail at all about where the money is coming any detail at all about where the money is coming from, any detail at all about where the money is coming from, is any detail at all about where the money is coming from, is it any detail at all about where the money is coming from, is it existing money is coming from, is it existing money money is coming from, is it existing money or money is coming from, is it existing money or new? money is coming from, is it existing money or new? I money is coming from, is it existing money or new? I can money is coming from, is it existing money or new? I can confirm money is coming from, is it existing money or new? I can confirm that money is coming from, is it existing money or new? I can confirm that I money or new? I can confirm that I am money or new? I can confirm that I am picking money or new? 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I can confirm that there are substantial amounts of there are substantial amounts of funds there are substantial amounts of funds that there are substantial amounts of funds that were there are substantial amounts of funds that were not there are substantial amounts of funds that were not dedicated, there are substantial amounts of funds that were not dedicated, yet funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but the funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but the full funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but the full extent funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but the full extent of funds that were not dedicated, yet promised, but the full extent of the promised, but the full extent of the provincial promised, but the full extent of the provincial growth promised, but the full extent of the provincial growth fund promised, but the full extent of the provincial growth fund will promised, but the full extent of the provincial growth fund will be provincial growth fund will be tidied provincial growth fund will be tidied up provincial growth fund will be tidied up in provincial growth fund will be tidied up in the provincial growth fund will be tidied up in the policy provincial growth fund will be tidied up in the policy budget tidied up in the policy budget statement tidied up in the policy budget statement announcement. tidied up in the policy budget statement announcement. 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I costing this country hundreds of millions of dollars. I call costing this country hundreds of millions of dollars. I call on costing this country hundreds of millions of dollars. I call on the millions of dollars. I call on the adjourned