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The member will be aware that since the fiscal plan was released since the fiscal plan was released by since the fiscal plan was released by the since the fiscal plan was released by the Labour since the fiscal plan was released by the Labour Party, since the fiscal plan was released by the Labour Party, a since the fiscal plan was released by the Labour Party, a Government by the Labour Party, a Government has by the Labour Party, a Government has been by the Labour Party, a Government has been formed by the Labour Party, a Government has been formed involving by the Labour Party, a Government has been formed involving the by the Labour Party, a Government has been formed involving the Labour has been formed involving the Labour Party, has been formed involving the Labour Party, New has been formed involving the Labour Party, New Zealand has been formed involving the Labour Party, New Zealand First has been formed involving the Labour Party, New Zealand First and has been formed involving the Labour Party, New Zealand First and the Party, New Zealand First and the Greens Party, New Zealand First and the Greens and Party, New Zealand First and the Greens and perhaps Party, New Zealand First and the Greens and perhaps his Party, New Zealand First and the Greens and perhaps his lack Party, New Zealand First and the Greens and perhaps his lack of Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding of Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding of MMP Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding of MMP explains Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding of MMP explains why Greens and perhaps his lack of understanding of MMP explains why he understanding of MMP explains why he plan? understanding of MMP explains why he is understanding of MMP explains why he is sitting where he understanding of MMP explains why he is sitting where he is. is sitting where he is. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Apressuring <INTERRUPTION> Apressuring the <INTERRUPTION> Apressuring the maturity <INTERRUPTION> Apressuring the maturity of <INTERRUPTION> Apressuring the maturity of the Apressuring the maturity of the Apressuring the maturity of the Apressuring the maturity of the minister... 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In 2009 Government spending on health 2009 Government spending on health and 2009 Government spending on health and education 2009 Government spending on health and education was 2009 Government spending on health and education was a 2009 Government spending on health and education was a combined 2009 Government spending on health and education was a combined 12.5% and education was a combined 12.5% and education was a combined 12.5% and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By last and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By last year and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By last year this and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By last year this had and education was a combined 12.5% of GDP. By last year this had fallen of GDP. By last year this had fallen to of GDP. By last year this had fallen to 11.1% of GDP. By last year this had fallen to 11.1% of of GDP. 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That's stop the erosion of land. That's enough, stop the erosion of land. That's enough, Paula! stop the erosion of land. That's enough, Paula! I stop the erosion of land. That's enough, Paula! I will stop the erosion of land. That's enough, Paula! I will accelerate enough, Paula! I will accelerate erosion enough, Paula! I will accelerate erosion where enough, Paula! I will accelerate erosion where you're enough, Paula! I will accelerate erosion where you're concerned. erosion where you're concerned. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Hilarious! <INTERRUPTION> Hilarious! Supplementary. <INTERRUPTION> Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And unnecessary. Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And unnecessary. What Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And unnecessary. What is Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And unnecessary. What is the Hilarious! Supplementary. Just... And unnecessary. What is the current And unnecessary. 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What I can tell this House is that there will be no-one House is that there will be no-one coming House is that there will be no-one coming to House is that there will be no-one coming to New House is that there will be no-one coming to New Zealand House is that there will be no-one coming to New Zealand from House is that there will be no-one coming to New Zealand from Manus coming to New Zealand from Manus Island coming to New Zealand from Manus Island or, coming to New Zealand from Manus Island or, for coming to New Zealand from Manus Island or, for that coming to New Zealand from Manus Island or, for that matter, coming to New Zealand from Manus Island or, for that matter, from Island or, for that matter, from Nauru Island or, for that matter, from Nauru Island, Island or, for that matter, from Nauru Island, without Island or, for that matter, from Nauru Island, without a Island or, for that matter, from Nauru Island, without a properly, Nauru Island, without a properly, thoroughly, Nauru Island, without a properly, thoroughly, cop Nauru Island, without a properly, thoroughly, cop present Nauru Island, without a properly, thoroughly, cop present civil Nauru Island, without a properly, thoroughly, cop present civil -- thoroughly, cop present civil -- comprehensively thoroughly, cop present civil -- comprehensively screened thoroughly, cop present civil -- comprehensively screened and thoroughly, cop present civil -- comprehensively screened and vetted. comprehensively screened and vetted. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> If <INTERRUPTION> If they <INTERRUPTION> If they are <INTERRUPTION> If they are going <INTERRUPTION> If they are going to <INTERRUPTION> If they are going to be <INTERRUPTION> If they are going to be properly If they are going to be properly screened If they are going to be properly screened and If they are going to be properly screened and vetted, If they are going to be properly screened and vetted, wouldn't If they are going to be properly screened and vetted, wouldn't it If they are going to be properly screened and vetted, wouldn't it be screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea for screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea for the screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea for the Minister screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea for the Minister to screened and vetted, wouldn't it be a good idea for the Minister to be a good idea for the Minister to be able a good idea for the Minister to be able to a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell the a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell the House a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell the House that a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell the House that he a good idea for the Minister to be able to tell the House that he knows able to tell the House that he knows the able to tell the House that he knows the status able to tell the House that he knows the status of able to tell the House that he knows the status of the able to tell the House that he knows the status of the 400 able to tell the House that he knows the status of the 400 protesting the status of the 400 protesting detainees, the status of the 400 protesting detainees, and the status of the 400 protesting detainees, and that the status of the 400 protesting detainees, and that they the status of the 400 protesting detainees, and that they are, the status of the 400 protesting detainees, and that they are, in detainees, and that they are, in fact, detainees, and that they are, in fact, not detainees, and that they are, in fact, not able detainees, and that they are, in fact, not able to detainees, and that they are, in fact, not able to get detainees, and that they are, in fact, not able to get refugee detainees, and that they are, in fact, not able to get refugee status fact, not able to get refugee status and fact, not able to get refugee status and not fact, not able to get refugee status and not able fact, not able to get refugee status and not able to fact, not able to get refugee status and not able to claim fact, not able to get refugee status and not able to claim asylum fact, not able to get refugee status and not able to claim asylum seeker and not able to claim asylum seeker status and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? And and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? And then and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? And then tell and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? And then tell us and not able to claim asylum seeker status either? And then tell us why status either? And then tell us why he status either? And then tell us why he would status either? And then tell us why he would want status either? And then tell us why he would want them status either? And then tell us why he would want them in status either? And then tell us why he would want them in New status either? And then tell us why he would want them in New Zealand? he would want them in New Zealand? If he would want them in New Zealand? If that he would want them in New Zealand? If that is he would want them in New Zealand? If that is the he would want them in New Zealand? If that is the case, he would want them in New Zealand? If that is the case, why he would want them in New Zealand? If that is the case, why on he would want them in New Zealand? If that is the case, why on earth If that is the case, why on earth did If that is the case, why on earth did the If that is the case, why on earth did the brave If that is the case, why on earth did the brave Government If that is the case, why on earth did the brave Government make If that is the case, why on earth did the brave Government make an did the brave Government make an offer did the brave Government make an offer in did the brave Government make an offer in 2013 did the brave Government make an offer in 2013 to did the brave Government make an offer in 2013 to do did the brave Government make an offer in 2013 to do just did the brave Government make an offer in 2013 to do just that? offer in 2013 to do just that? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> The <INTERRUPTION> The difference <INTERRUPTION> The difference is <INTERRUPTION> The difference is - <INTERRUPTION> The difference is - the <INTERRUPTION> The difference is - the difference The difference is - the difference is The difference is - the difference is the The difference is - the difference is the information The difference is - the difference is the information - The difference is - the difference is the information - the The difference is - the difference is the information - the information is the information - the information on is the information - the information on which is the information - the information on which Mr is the information - the information on which Mr Brownlee is the information - the information on which Mr Brownlee seeks is the information - the information on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today is on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today is whether on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today is whether - on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today is whether - exclusively on which Mr Brownlee seeks clarity today is whether - exclusively the today is whether - exclusively the Australian today is whether - exclusively the Australian and today is whether - exclusively the Australian and other today is whether - exclusively the Australian and other people, today is whether - exclusively the Australian and other people, and today is whether - exclusively the Australian and other people, and not Australian and other people, and not New Australian and other people, and not New Zealand Australian and other people, and not New Zealand authorities. Australian and other people, and not New Zealand authorities. And Australian and other people, and not New Zealand authorities. And I Australian and other people, and not New Zealand authorities. And I want New Zealand authorities. And I want to New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm again New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm again - New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm again - no-one New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm again - no-one will New Zealand authorities. And I want to confirm again - no-one will come to confirm again - no-one will come here to confirm again - no-one will come here who to confirm again - no-one will come here who has to confirm again - no-one will come here who has not to confirm again - no-one will come here who has not been to confirm again - no-one will come here who has not been properly here who has not been properly vetted here who has not been properly vetted and here who has not been properly vetted and screened here who has not been properly vetted and screened by here who has not been properly vetted and screened by the vetted and screened by the authorities vetted and screened by the authorities in vetted and screened by the authorities in the vetted and screened by the authorities in the first vetted and screened by the authorities in the first place, vetted and screened by the authorities in the first place, as authorities in the first place, as he authorities in the first place, as he was authorities in the first place, as he was advised authorities in the first place, as he was advised just authorities in the first place, as he was advised just three authorities in the first place, as he was advised just three weeks he was advised just three weeks before he was advised just three weeks before he he was advised just three weeks before he left he was advised just three weeks before he left the he was advised just three weeks before he left the job before he left the job unceremoniously. before he left the job unceremoniously. Right. before he left the job unceremoniously. Right. I before he left the job unceremoniously. Right. I want before he left the job unceremoniously. Right. I want to unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to the unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to the House. unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to the House. I unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to the House. I shared unceremoniously. Right. I want to apologise to the House. I shared Ms apologise to the House. I shared Ms Bennett's apologise to the House. I shared Ms Bennett's enthusiasm apologise to the House. I shared Ms Bennett's enthusiasm to apologise to the House. I shared Ms Bennett's enthusiasm to get apologise to the House. I shared Ms Bennett's enthusiasm to get to Bennett's enthusiasm to get to questions Bennett's enthusiasm to get to questions and Bennett's enthusiasm to get to questions and we Bennett's enthusiasm to get to questions and we skipped Bennett's enthusiasm to get to questions and we skipped over questions and we skipped over papers. questions and we skipped over papers. But questions and we skipped over papers. But no questions and we skipped over papers. But no papers questions and we skipped over papers. But no papers or questions and we skipped over papers. But no papers or sledge papers. But no papers or sledge committee papers. But no papers or sledge committee reports papers. But no papers or sledge committee reports have papers. But no papers or sledge committee reports have been committee reports have been presented. committee reports have been presented. No committee reports have been presented. No bills committee reports have been presented. No bills have committee reports have been presented. No bills have been