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Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we pray Laying aside all personal interests, we pray for Laying aside all personal interests, we pray for guidance we pray for guidance in we pray for guidance in our we pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct in our deliberations, that we may conduct the in our deliberations, that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House of this House with of this House with wisdom of this House with wisdom and of this House with wisdom and humility, with wisdom and humility, for with wisdom and humility, for the with wisdom and humility, for the public with wisdom and humility, for the public welfare with wisdom and humility, for the public welfare and with wisdom and humility, for the public welfare and peace for the public welfare and peace of for the public welfare and peace of New for the public welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the public welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Can I ask the minister whether or not The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the minister whether or not even The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Can I ask the minister whether or not even as the minister whether or not even as a the minister whether or not even as a matter the minister whether or not even as a matter of the minister whether or not even as a matter of personal the minister whether or not even as a matter of personal opinion the minister whether or not even as a matter of personal opinion formed a matter of personal opinion formed after a matter of personal opinion formed after some a matter of personal opinion formed after some time a matter of personal opinion formed after some time in a matter of personal opinion formed after some time in this a matter of personal opinion formed after some time in this House, after some time in this House, whether after some time in this House, whether he after some time in this House, whether he thinks after some time in this House, whether he thinks these after some time in this House, whether he thinks these questions whether he thinks these questions whether he thinks these questions whether he thinks these questions are in whether he thinks these questions are in danger whether he thinks these questions are in danger of whether he thinks these questions are in danger of putting whether he thinks these questions are in danger of putting Mogadon whether he thinks these questions are in danger of putting Mogadon out are in danger of putting Mogadon out of are in danger of putting Mogadon out of business? are in danger of putting Mogadon out of business? 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I don't believe it is in the public don't believe it is in the public interest don't believe it is in the public interest to don't believe it is in the public interest to release don't believe it is in the public interest to release further interest to release further information, interest to release further information, legal interest to release further information, legal or interest to release further information, legal or otherwise, interest to release further information, legal or otherwise, on information, legal or otherwise, on information, information, legal or otherwise, on the only publications information, legal or otherwise, on the only publications of information, legal or otherwise, on the only publications of the information, legal or otherwise, on the only publications of the removal the only publications of the removal of the only publications of the removal of the the only publications of the removal of the charter the only publications of the removal of the charter school the only publications of the removal of the charter school model the only publications of the removal of the charter school model could of the charter school model could have of the charter school model could have for of the charter school model could have for those of the charter school model could have for those schools of the charter school model could have for those schools while of the charter school model could have for those schools while those have for those schools while those discussions have for those schools while those discussions are have for those schools while those discussions are taking discussions are taking place. discussions are taking discussions are taking place. 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Is it not in the interests of the parents and interests of the parents and children interests of the parents and children considering interests of the parents and children considering those interests of the parents and children considering those schools children considering those schools and children considering those schools and other children considering those schools and other partnership children considering those schools and other partnership schools children considering those schools and other partnership schools to children considering those schools and children considering those schools know at least children considering those schools know at least what children considering those schools know at least what sort children considering those schools know at least what sort of children considering those schools know at least what sort of timeline know at least what sort of timeline the know at least what sort of timeline the minister know at least what sort of timeline the minister might know at least what sort of timeline the minister might have know at least what sort of timeline the minister might have for know at least what sort of timeline the minister might have for a the minister might have for a decision? the minister might have for a decision? Yes, the minister might have for a decision? Yes, Mr the minister might have for a decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, the minister might have for a decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that the minister might have for a decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is the minister might have for a decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing for decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing for them decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing for them to decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing for them to ask decision? Yes, Mr Speaker, that is a reasonable thing for them to ask and reasonable thing for them to ask and I reasonable thing for them to ask and I have reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been very reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been very clear reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been very clear that reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been very clear that we reasonable thing for them to ask and I have been very clear that we won't I have been very clear that we won't be I have been very clear that we won't be rushing I have been very clear that we won't be rushing that I have been very clear that we won't be rushing that discussion I have been very clear that we won't be rushing that discussion process. be rushing that discussion process. We be rushing that discussion process. We won't be rushing that discussion process. We won't be be rushing that discussion process. We won't be pre-empting be rushing that discussion process. We won't be pre-empting it be rushing that discussion process. We won't be pre-empting it either We won't be pre-empting it either and We won't be pre-empting it either and we We won't be pre-empting it either and we will We won't be pre-empting it either and we will certainly We won't be pre-empting it either and we will certainly give We won't be pre-empting it either and we will certainly give plenty We won't be pre-empting it either and we will certainly give plenty of and we will certainly give plenty of notice and we will certainly give plenty of notice before and we will certainly give plenty of notice before any and we will certainly give plenty of notice before any change and we will certainly give plenty of notice before any change was and we will certainly give plenty of notice before any change was made and we will certainly give plenty of notice before any change was made or notice before any change was made or implemented. notice before any change was made or implemented. Supplementary. notice before any change was made or implemented. Supplementary. Why notice before any change was made or implemented. Supplementary. Why did implemented. Supplementary. Why did the implemented. Supplementary. Why did the throne implemented. Supplementary. Why did the throne speech implemented. Supplementary. Why did the throne speech say implemented. Supplementary. Why did the throne speech say that implemented. Supplementary. Why did the throne speech say that all the throne speech say that all pre-committed the throne speech say that all pre-committed irrigation the throne speech say that all pre-committed irrigation projects pre-committed irrigation projects pre-committed irrigation projects pre-committed irrigation projects would go pre-committed irrigation projects would go ahead pre-committed irrigation projects would go ahead while pre-committed irrigation projects would go ahead while partnership would go ahead while partnership schools would go ahead while partnership schools face would go ahead while partnership schools face such would go ahead while partnership schools face such uncertainty would go ahead while partnership schools face such uncertainty to schools face such uncertainty to schools schools face such uncertainty to wit, does this schools face such uncertainty to wit, does this Government schools face such uncertainty to wit, does this Government put wit, does this Government put wit, does this Government put wit, does this Government put culverts ahead wit, does this Government put culverts ahead of wit, does this Government put culverts ahead of kids? wit, does this Government put culverts ahead of kids? 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Mr Speaker, I was asking about partnership schools simply about partnership schools simply with about partnership schools simply with reference about partnership schools simply with reference to about partnership schools simply with reference to another about partnership schools simply with reference to another policy, about partnership schools simply with about partnership schools simply not asking about about partnership schools simply not asking about the about partnership schools simply not asking about the policy about partnership schools simply not asking about the policy at about partnership schools simply not asking about the policy at all. not asking about the policy at all. The not asking about the policy at all. The member not asking about the policy at all. The member tried not asking about the policy at all. The member tried a not asking about the policy at all. The member tried a relatively not asking about the policy at all. 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I wonder if the Leader of the House might be generous to give Act House might be generous to give Act another House might be generous to give Act another supplementary House might be generous to give Act another supplementary so House might be generous to give Act another supplementary so I House might be generous to give Act another supplementary so I might another supplementary so I might continue another supplementary so I might continue this another supplementary so I might continue this route another supplementary so I might continue this route of another supplementary so I might continue this route of the another supplementary so I might continue this route of the Minister continue this route of the Minister of continue this route of the Minister of Education. continue this route of the Minister of Education. <INTERRUPTION> of Education. <INTERRUPTION> David of Education. <INTERRUPTION> David Seymour. of Education. <INTERRUPTION> David Seymour. Supplementary. of Education. <INTERRUPTION> David Seymour. Supplementary. Will David Seymour. Supplementary. Will the David Seymour. Supplementary. Will the minister David Seymour. Supplementary. Will the minister visit David Seymour. Supplementary. Will the minister visit any David Seymour. Supplementary. Will the minister visit any partnership the minister visit any partnership schools the minister visit any partnership schools before the minister visit any partnership schools before he the minister visit any partnership schools before he closes the minister visit any partnership schools before he closes them? the minister visit any partnership schools before he closes them? I schools before he closes them? I don't schools before he closes them? I don't want schools before he closes them? I don't want to schools before he closes them? I don't want to pre-empt schools before he closes them? I don't want to pre-empt the don't want to pre-empt the discussions don't want to pre-empt the discussions that don't want to pre-empt the discussions that we don't want to pre-empt the discussions that we might don't want to pre-empt the discussions that we might have don't want to pre-empt the discussions that we might have with discussions that we might have with them, discussions that we might have with them, as discussions that we might have with them, as the discussions that we might have with them, as the member discussions that we might have with them, as the member did discussions that we might have with them, as the member did in discussions that we might have with them, as the member did in the discussions that we might have with them, as the member did in the final them, as the member did in the final part them, as the member did in the final don't them, as the member did in the final part of his them, as the member did in the final part of his question. them, as the member did in the final part of his question. Question them, as the member did in the final part of his question. Question No. part of his question. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: How My question is to the Minister of Education: How many My question is to the Minister of Education: How many students of Education: How many students will of Education: How many students will receive of Education: How many students will receive additional of Education: How many students will receive additional assistance will receive additional assistance with will receive additional assistance with living will receive additional assistance with living costs will receive additional assistance with living costs in will receive additional assistance with living costs in 2018? Good Good news, Good news, more Good news, more than Good news, more than 130,000 Good news, more than 130,000 students Good news, more than 130,000 students will Good news, more than 130,000 students will be Good news, more than 130,000 students will be $50 Good news, more than 130,000 students will be $50 a Good news, more than 130,000 students will be $50 a week Good news, more than 130,000 students will be $50 a week better students will be $50 a week better off students will be $50 a week better with students will be $50 a week better off from 1 students will be $50 a week better off from 1 January students will be $50 a week better off from 1 January as students will be $50 a week better off from 1 January as a students will be $50 a week better off from 1 January as a result students will be $50 a week better off from 1 January as a result of off from 1 January as a result of this off from 1 January as a result of this Government's off from 1 January as a result of this Government's commitment off from 1 January as a result of this Government's commitment to this Government's commitment to increased this Government's commitment to increased student this Government's commitment to increased student allowance this Government's commitment to increased student allowance base increased student allowance base rates increased student allowance base rates and increased student allowance base rates and the increased student allowance base rates and the amount increased student allowance base rates and the amount that increased student allowance base rates and the amount that students rates and the amount that students can rates and the amount that students can borrow rates and the amount that students can borrow for rates and the amount that students can borrow for living rates and the amount that students can borrow for living costs. rates and the amount that students can borrow for living costs. This can borrow for living costs. This Government can borrow for living costs. This Government understands can borrow for living costs. This Government understands the can borrow for living costs. This Government understands the pleasure Government understands the pleasure Government understands the pleasure Government understands the pleasure that students Government understands the pleasure that students and Government understands the pleasure that students and their Government understands the pleasure that students and their families Government understands the pleasure that students and their families are that students and their families are that students and their families are that students and their families are under as that students and their families are under as they that students and their families are under as they seek that students and their families are under as they seek to that students and their families are under as they seek to gain that students and their families are under as they seek to gain the under as they seek to gain the skills under as they seek to gain the skills and under as they seek to gain the skills and qualifications under as they seek to gain the skills and qualifications they under as they seek to gain the skills and qualifications they need skills and qualifications they need skills and qualifications they need skills and qualifications they need to get skills and qualifications they need to get ahead skills and qualifications they need to get ahead in skills and qualifications they need to get ahead in life skills and qualifications they need to get ahead in life and skills and qualifications they need to get ahead in life and we skills and qualifications they need to get ahead in life and we will to get ahead in life and we will back to get ahead in life and we will back them. to get ahead in life and we will back them. Supplementary. to get ahead in life and we will back them. Supplementary. Will to get ahead in life and we will back them. Supplementary. Will the back them. Supplementary. Will the support back them. Supplementary. Will the support go back them. Supplementary. Will the support go only back them. Supplementary. Will the support go only to back them. Supplementary. Will the support go only to university support go only to university support go only to university support go only to university students or support go only to university students or will support go only to university students or will other support go only to university students or will other tertiary students or will other tertiary students students or will other tertiary students benefit as students or will other tertiary students benefit as well? students or will other tertiary students benefit as well? I students or will other tertiary students benefit as well? I am students benefit as well? I am students benefit as well? I am students benefit as well? I am advised that students benefit as well? I am advised that more students benefit as well? I am advised that more than students benefit as well? I am advised that more than half students benefit as well? I am advised that more than half of advised that more than half of student advised that more than half of student allowance advised that more than half of student allowance recipients advised that more than half of student allowance recipients and student allowance recipients and more student allowance recipients and students student allowance recipients and more than a student allowance recipients and more than a third student allowance recipients and more than a third of student allowance recipients and more than a third of students student allowance recipients and more than a third of students who more than a third of students who borrow more than a third of students who borrow for more than a third of students who borrow for living more than a third of students who borrow for living costs more than a third of students who borrow for living costs come more than a third of students who borrow for living costs come from borrow for living costs come from outside borrow for living costs come from outside the borrow for living costs come from outside the university borrow for living costs come from outside the university sector, outside the university sector, including outside the university sector, including Polytechnics outside the university sector, including Polytechnics and outside the university sector, including Polytechnics and other including Polytechnics and other tertiary including Polytechnics and other tertiary education including Polytechnics and other tertiary education providers. including Polytechnics and other tertiary education providers. This tertiary education providers. This is tertiary education providers. This is a tertiary education providers. This is a broad-based tertiary education providers. This is a broad-based change tertiary education providers. This is a broad-based change that is a broad-based change that is a broad-based change that is a broad-based change that benefits a is a broad-based change that benefits a wide is a broad-based change that benefits a wide range is a broad-based change that benefits a wide range of is a broad-based change that benefits a wide range of students benefits a wide range of students studying benefits a wide range of students studying in benefits a wide range of students studying in all benefits a wide range of students studying in all kind benefits a wide range of students studying in all kind of benefits a wide range of students studying in all kind of occupations. studying in all kind of occupations. To studying in all kind of occupations. To the studying in all kind of occupations. To the Minister, studying in all kind of occupations. To the Minister, can studying in all kind of occupations. To the Minister, can he studying in all kind of occupations. To the Minister, can he tell studying in all kind of occupations. To the Minister, can he tell the To the Minister, can he tell the House To the Minister, can he tell the House why To the Minister, can he tell the House why if To the Minister, can he tell the House why if the To the Minister, can he tell the House why if the student To the Minister, can he tell the House why if the student allowance House why if the student allowance remains House why if the student allowance remains targeted House why if the student allowance remains targeted to House why if the student allowance remains targeted to those House why if the student allowance remains targeted to those most House why if the student allowance remains targeted to those most in remains targeted to those most in need, remains targeted to those most in need, his remains targeted to those most in need, his free-fees remains targeted to those most in need, his free-fees policy remains targeted to those most in need, his free-fees policy is remains targeted to those most in need, his free-fees policy is not? need, his free-fees policy is not? The need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government has need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government has made need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government has made a need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government has made a very need, his free-fees policy is not? The Government has made a very clear The Government has made a very clear commitment The Government has made a very clear commitment to The Government has made a very clear commitment to progressively The Government has made a very clear commitment to progressively remove commitment to progressively remove the commitment to progressively remove the financial commitment to progressively remove the financial barriers commitment to progressively remove the financial barriers to the financial barriers to participation the financial barriers to participation in the financial barriers to participation in education. the financial barriers to participation in education. 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