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Can he confirm that single people with no children, that single people with no children, families that single people with no children, families with that single people with no children, families with grown that single people with no children, families with grown up that single people with no children, families with grown up children that single people with no children, families with grown up children and families with grown up children and young families with grown up children and young couples families with grown up children and young couples with families with grown up children and young couples with no families with grown up children and young couples with no children young couples with no children starting young couples with no children starting out, young couples with no children starting out, will young couples with no children starting out, will all young couples with no children starting out, will all be young couples with no children starting out, will all be worse young couples with no children starting out, will all be worse off starting out, will all be worse off starting out, will all be worse off starting out, will all be worse off under his starting out, will all be worse off under his proposals starting out, will all be worse off under his proposals for starting out, will all be worse off under his proposals for personal under his proposals for personal under his proposals for personal under his proposals for personal taxation? 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Question the cost of access to primary care. Question No. the cost of access to primary care. Question No. 8. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: Education: How Education: How will Education: How will the Education: How will the Government's How will the Government's fees-free How will the Government's fees-free policy How will the Government's fees-free policy benefit fees-free policy benefit workers fees-free policy benefit workers and fees-free policy benefit workers and employers? 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What's more - their employers will not have to pay any employers will not have to pay any such employers will not have to pay any such fee employers will not have to pay any such fee either employers will not have to pay any such fee either so employers will not have to pay any such fee either so small employers will not have to pay any such fee either so small businesses such fee either so small businesses will such fee either so small businesses will be such fee either so small businesses will be better such fee either so small businesses will be better off such fee either so small businesses will be better off from such fee either so small businesses will be better off from this such fee either so small businesses will be better off from this policy will be better off from this policy as will be better off from this policy as a will be better off from this policy as a result will be better off from this policy as a result of will be better off from this policy as a result of this will be better off from this policy as a result of this policy will be better off from this policy as a result of this policy as will be better off from this policy as a result of this policy as well. as a result of this policy as well. What as a result of this policy as well. What sort as a result of this policy as well. What sort of as a result of this policy as well. What sort of financial as a result of this policy as well. What sort of financial difference What sort of financial difference will What sort of financial difference will fees-free What sort of financial difference will fees-free make What sort of financial difference will fees-free make for What sort of financial difference will fees-free make for trainees What sort of financial difference will fees-free make for trainees and will fees-free make for trainees and their will fees-free make for trainees and their employees? will fees-free make for trainees and their employees? Mr will fees-free make for trainees and their employees? Mr Speaker, will fees-free make for trainees and their employees? Mr Speaker, the their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest estimate their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest estimate I their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest estimate I have their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest estimate I have is their employees? Mr Speaker, the latest estimate I have is that latest estimate I have is that around latest estimate I have is that around 6,000 latest estimate I have is that around 6,000 apprentices latest estimate I have is that around 6,000 apprentices and around 6,000 apprentices and trainees around 6,000 apprentices and their around 6,000 apprentices and trainees will be around 6,000 apprentices and trainees will be eligible around 6,000 apprentices and trainees will be eligible for trainees will be eligible for fees-free trainees will be eligible for fees-free next trainees will be eligible for fees-free next year. trainees will be eligible for fees-free next year. And trainees will be eligible for fees-free next year. And the fees-free next year. And the estimates fees-free next year. And the estimates are fees-free next year. And the estimates are that fees-free next year. And the estimates are that they fees-free next year. And the estimates are that they and fees-free next year. And the estimates are that they and their estimates are that they and their employers estimates are that they and their employers will estimates are that they and their employers will save estimates are that they and their employers will save around estimates are that they and their employers will save around $2,000 estimates are that they and their employers will save around $2,000 in employers will save around $2,000 in fees employers will save around $2,000 in fees on employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average in employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average in 2018 employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average in 2018 but employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average in 2018 but there employers will save around $2,000 in fees on average in 2018 but there is fees on average in 2018 but there is a fees on average in 2018 but there is a range fees on average in 2018 but there is a range within fees on average in 2018 but there is a range within that. fees on average in 2018 but there is a range within that. 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How long can trainees receive fees-free? 4,000 or even higher. How long can trainees receive fees-free? Mr trainees receive fees-free? Mr Speaker, trainees receive fees-free? Mr Speaker, there's trainees receive fees-free? Mr Speaker, there's very trainees receive fees-free? Mr Speaker, there's very good trainees receive fees-free? Mr Speaker, there's very good news Speaker, there's very good news here. Speaker, there's very good news here. The Speaker, there's very good news here. The fees-free Speaker, there's very good news here. The fees-free entitlement Speaker, there's very good news here. The fees-free entitlement for here. The fees-free entitlement for those here. The fees-free entitlement for those in here. The fees-free entitlement for those in provider-base here. The fees-free entitlement for those in provider-base training here. The fees-free entitlement for those in provider-base training is those in provider-base training is for those in provider-base training is for one those in provider-base training is for one year, those in provider-base training is for one year, however those in provider-base training is for one year, however for those in provider-base training is for one year, however for those those in provider-base training is for one year, however for those on for one year, however for those on job for one year, however for those on job training, for one year, however for those on job training, the for one year, however for those on job training, the entitlement for one year, however for those on job training, the entitlement will job training, the entitlement will be job training, the entitlement will be extended job training, the entitlement will be extended to job training, the entitlement will be extended to two job training, the entitlement will be extended to two years. job training, the entitlement will be extended to two years. 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Mr Speaker, this policy will go through a robust policy will go through a robust budget policy will go through a robust budget process policy will go through a robust budget process and policy will go through a robust budget process and we policy will go through a robust budget process and we expect policy will go through a robust budget process and we expect that budget process and we expect that New budget process and we expect that New Zealanders budget process and we expect that New Zealanders will budget process and we expect that New Zealanders will be budget process and we expect that New Zealanders will be able budget process and we expect that New Zealanders will be able to New Zealanders will be able to access New Zealanders will be able to access cheaper New Zealanders will be able to access cheaper GP New Zealanders will be able to access cheaper GP visits New Zealanders will be able to access cheaper GP visits from New Zealanders will be able to access cheaper GP visits from July access cheaper GP visits from July next access cheaper GP visits from July next year. access cheaper GP visits from July next year. What access cheaper GP visits from July next year. What other access cheaper GP visits from July next year. What other future access cheaper GP visits from July next year. What other future changes next year. What other future changes will next year. What other future changes will the next year. What other future changes will the Government next year. What other future changes will the Government make next year. What other future changes will the Government make to next year. What other future changes will the Government make to primary will the Government make to primary care? will the Government make to primary care? Mr will the Government make to primary care? Mr Speaker, will the Government make to primary care? Mr Speaker, improving will the Government make to primary care? Mr Speaker, improving access care? Mr Speaker, improving access to care? Mr Speaker, improving access to primary care? Mr Speaker, improving access to primary care care? 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I and consequently in to Speaker's rulings. I think and consequently in to Speaker's rulings. I think it and consequently in to Speaker's rulings. I think it is and consequently in to Speaker's rulings. I think it is a and consequently in to Speaker's rulings. I think it is a very rulings. I think it is a very dangerous rulings. I think it is a very dangerous precedent rulings. I think it is a very dangerous precedent that rulings. I think it is a very dangerous precedent that could rulings. I think it is a very dangerous precedent that could be dangerous precedent that could be potentially dangerous precedent that could be potentially made dangerous precedent that could be potentially made by dangerous precedent that could be potentially made by your dangerous precedent that could be potentially made by your initial potentially made by your initial ruling potentially made by your initial ruling today potentially made by your initial ruling today that potentially made by your initial ruling today that unless potentially made by your initial ruling today that unless matters potentially made by your initial ruling today that unless matters are ruling today that unless matters are raised ruling today that unless matters are raised instantly, ruling today that unless matters are raised instantly, they ruling today that unless matters are raised instantly, they cannot ruling today that unless matters are raised instantly, they cannot be raised instantly, they cannot be raised raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. And raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. And I raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. And I ask raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. And I ask you raised instantly, they cannot be raised at all. And I ask you whether raised at all. And I ask you whether you raised at all. And I ask you whether you would raised at all. And I ask you whether you would consider raised at all. And I ask you whether you would consider the raised at all. And I ask you whether you would consider the points raised at all. And I ask you whether you would consider the points that raised at all. And I ask you whether you would consider the points that I you would consider the points that I think you would consider the points that I think were you would consider the points that I think were raised you would consider the points that I think were raised considerately you would consider the points that I think were raised considerately by think were raised considerately by members think were raised considerately by think think were raised considerately by members at the think were raised considerately by members at the start think were raised considerately by members at the start of think were raised considerately by members at the start of question members at the start of question time, members at the start of question time, particularly members at the start of question time, particularly by members at the start of question time, particularly by Opposition time, particularly by Opposition members, time, particularly by Opposition members, have time, particularly by Opposition members, have a time, particularly by Opposition members, have a look time, particularly by Opposition members, have a look at time, particularly by Opposition members, have a look at the time, particularly by Opposition members, have a look at the Hansard members, have a look at the Hansard again, members, have a look at the Hansard again, and members, have a look at the Hansard again, and perhaps members, have a look at the Hansard again, and perhaps come members, have a look at the Hansard again, and perhaps come back members, have a look at the Hansard again, and perhaps come back to members, have a look at the Hansard again, and perhaps come back to the again, and perhaps come back to the House again, and perhaps come back to the House with again, and perhaps come back to the House with a again, and perhaps come back to the House with a considered again, and perhaps come back to the House with a considered ruling again, and perhaps come back to the House with a considered ruling and House with a considered ruling and the House with a considered ruling and the ability House with a considered ruling and the ability for House with a considered ruling and the ability for us House with a considered ruling and the ability for us to House with a considered ruling and the ability for us to raise the ability for us to raise retrospectively the ability for us to raise retrospectively points the ability for us to raise retrospectively points of the ability for us to raise retrospectively points of order retrospectively points of order which retrospectively points of order which we retrospectively points of order which we think retrospectively points of order which we think are retrospectively points of order which we think are worthwhile which we think are worthwhile raising. which we think are worthwhile raising. There which we think are worthwhile raising. There was which we think are worthwhile raising. There was no which we think are worthwhile raising. There was no discussion raising. There was no discussion that raising. There was no discussion that I raising. There was no discussion that I recall raising. There was no discussion that I recall during raising. There was no discussion that I recall during the that I recall during the deliberations that I recall during the deliberations of that I recall during the deliberations of the that I recall during the deliberations of the Standing that I recall during the deliberations of the Standing Orders deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee about deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee about a deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee about a stage deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee about a stage by deliberations of the Standing Orders Committee about a stage by which Committee about a stage by which such Committee about a stage by which such concerns Committee about a stage by which such concerns were Committee about a stage by which such concerns were raised Committee about a stage by which such concerns were raised privately such concerns were raised privately with such concerns were raised privately with the such concerns were raised privately with the Speaker such concerns were raised privately with the Speaker in such concerns were raised privately with the Speaker in his such concerns were raised privately with the Speaker in his office. with the Speaker in his office. Members with the Speaker in his office. Members of with the Speaker in his office. Members of Parliament, with the Speaker in his office. Members of Parliament, opposition Members of Parliament, opposition and Members of Parliament, opposition such Members of Parliament, opposition and Government have Members of Parliament, opposition and Government have rights Members of Parliament, opposition and Government have rights to Members of Parliament, opposition and Government have rights to raise and Government have rights to raise points and Government have rights to raise points of and Government have rights to raise points of order and Government have rights to raise points of order and and Government have rights to raise points of order and I and Government have rights to raise points of order and I ask and Government have rights to raise points of order and I ask you and Government have rights to raise points of order and I ask you to points of order and I ask you to reconsider points of order and I ask you to reconsider very points of order and I ask you to reconsider very carefully points of order and I ask you to reconsider very carefully your reconsider very carefully your original reconsider very carefully your original initial reconsider very carefully your original initial ruling reconsider very carefully your original initial ruling at reconsider very carefully your original initial ruling at the reconsider very carefully your original initial ruling at the start original initial ruling at the start of original initial ruling at the start of question original initial ruling at the start of question time original initial ruling at the start of question time today. original initial ruling at the start of question time today. No, original initial ruling at the start of question time today. No, no, original initial ruling at the start of question time today. No, no, I of question time today. No, no, I don't of question time today. No, no, I don't want of question time today. No, no, I don't want any of question time today. No, no, I don't want any assistance of question time today. No, no, I don't want any assistance with of question time today. No, no, I don't want any assistance with this. don't want any assistance with this. I don't want any assistance with this. I want don't want any assistance with this. I want to don't want any assistance with this. I want to thank don't want any assistance with this. I want to thank my don't want any assistance with this. I want to thank my Rt don't want any assistance with this. I want to thank my Rt Hon I want to thank my Rt Hon predecessor I want to thank my Rt Hon predecessor for I want to thank my Rt Hon predecessor for his I want to thank my Rt Hon predecessor for his intervention. I want to thank my Rt Hon predecessor for his intervention. I predecessor for his intervention. I will predecessor for his intervention. I will seek predecessor for his intervention. I will seek further predecessor for his intervention. I will seek further advice predecessor for his intervention. I will seek further advice on predecessor for his intervention. I will seek further advice on this. will seek further advice on this. Clearly will seek further advice on this. Clearly we will seek further advice on this. Clearly we have will seek further advice on this. Clearly we have different will seek further advice on this. Clearly we have different memories Clearly we have different memories of Clearly we have different memories of the Clearly we have different memories of the reasoning Clearly we have different memories of the reasoning behind Clearly we have different memories of the reasoning behind this Clearly we have different memories of the reasoning behind this and Clearly we have different memories of the reasoning behind this and the of the reasoning behind this and the methodology of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be used of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be used and of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be used and if of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be used and if - of the reasoning behind this and the methodology to be used and if - if methodology to be used and if - if it's methodology to be used and if - if it's shown methodology to be used and if - if it's shown that methodology to be used and if - if it's shown that his methodology to be used and if - if it's shown that his memory methodology to be used and if - if it's shown that his memory is methodology to be used and if - if it's shown that his memory is better it's shown that his memory is better than it's shown that his memory is better than mine, it's shown that his memory is better than mine, which it's shown that his memory is better than mine, which I it's shown that his memory is better than mine, which I wouldn't it's shown that his memory is better than mine, which I wouldn't be it's shown that his memory is better than mine, which I wouldn't be at than mine, which I wouldn't be at all than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised by, than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised by, then than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised by, then I than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised by, then I will than mine, which I wouldn't be at all surprised by, then I will come all surprised by, then I will come back all surprised by, then I will come back to all surprised by, then I will come back to the all surprised by, then I will come back to the House. all surprised by, then I will come back to the House. We all surprised by, then I will come back to the House. We come all surprised by, then I will come back to the House. We come now all surprised by, then I will come back to the House. We come now to back to the House. We come now to the back to the House. We come now to the general