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Can the PM tell us what jobs will be available tell us what jobs will be available in tell us what jobs will be available in addition tell us what jobs will be available in addition to tell us what jobs will be available in addition to those tell us what jobs will be available in addition to those already in addition to those already struggling in addition to those already struggling to in addition to those already struggling to be in addition to those already struggling to be filled in addition to those already struggling to be filled in in addition to those already struggling to be filled in the struggling to be filled in the horticulture struggling to be filled in the horticulture industry struggling to be filled in the horticulture industry and horticulture industry and hospitality horticulture industry and hospitality industry horticulture industry and hospitality industry in horticulture industry and hospitality industry in the horticulture industry and hospitality industry in the regions hospitality industry in the regions that hospitality industry in the regions that she hospitality industry in the regions that she has hospitality industry in the regions that she has referred hospitality industry in the regions that she has referred to? hospitality industry in the regions that she has referred to? 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Paul a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How long a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How long will a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How long will it a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How long will it take a disgraceful opposition, sir. Paul Goldsmith. How long will it take to Goldsmith. How long will it take to get Goldsmith. How long will it take to get to Goldsmith. How long will it take to get to that Goldsmith. How long will it take to get to that target? Goldsmith. How long will it take to get to that target? Sorry, Goldsmith. How long will it take to get to that target? Sorry, Mr get to that target? Sorry, Mr get to that target? Sorry, Mr get to that target? Sorry, Mr Speaker, if get to that target? Sorry, Mr Speaker, if the get to that target? Sorry, Mr Speaker, if the minister's get to that target? 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We will now move on to the to a liveable wage. 2020. We will now move on to the next to a liveable wage. 2020. We will now move on to the next question. to a liveable wage. 2020. We will now move on to the next question. I now move on to the next question. I am now move on to the next question. I am going now move on to the next question. I am going to now move on to the next question. I am going to remind now move on to the next question. I am going to remind the now move on to the next question. I am going to remind the minister now move on to the next question. 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