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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Can I ask if the Minister will maintain I ask if the Minister will maintain the I ask if the Minister will maintain the better I ask if the Minister will maintain the better public I ask if the Minister will maintain the better public service I ask if the Minister will maintain the better public service targets the better public service targets which the better public service targets which are the better public service targets which are tailored the better public service targets which are tailored to the better public service targets which are tailored to reduce which are tailored to reduce hardship which are tailored to reduce hardship by which are tailored to reduce hardship by using which are tailored to reduce hardship by using a which are tailored to reduce hardship by using a multi-agency hardship by using a multi-agency approach. hardship by using a multi-agency hardship hardship by using a multi-agency approach. The Government hardship by using a multi-agency approach. 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Today I've announced particularly around Auckland. Today I've announced an particularly around Auckland. Today I've announced an immediate particularly around Auckland. Today I've announced an immediate teacher I've announced an immediate teacher supply I've announced an immediate teacher supply package I've announced an immediate teacher supply package of I've announced an immediate teacher supply package of $9.5 I've announced an immediate teacher supply package of $9.5 million I've announced an immediate teacher supply package of $9.5 million to supply package of $9.5 million to help supply package of $9.5 million to help get supply package of $9.5 million to help get teachers supply package of $9.5 million to help get teachers into supply package of $9.5 million to help get teachers into classrooms supply package of $9.5 million to help get teachers into classrooms or help get teachers into classrooms or back help get teachers into classrooms or back into help get teachers into classrooms or back into classrooms help get teachers into classrooms or back into classrooms for help get teachers into classrooms or back into classrooms for the back into classrooms for the beginning back into classrooms for the beginning of back into classrooms for the beginning of the back into classrooms for the beginning of the next back into classrooms for the beginning of the next school back into classrooms for the beginning of the next school year. beginning of the next school year. The beginning of the next school year. The funding, beginning of the next school year. The funding, which beginning of the next school year. The funding, which has beginning of the next school year. The funding, which has been beginning of the next school year. 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What graduates into teaching. What initiatives graduates into teaching. What initiatives are graduates into teaching. What initiatives are contained graduates into teaching. What initiatives are contained within initiatives are contained within this initiatives are contained within this teacher initiatives are contained within this teacher supply initiatives are contained within this teacher supply package? initiatives are contained within this teacher supply package? There this teacher supply package? There are this teacher supply package? There are many this teacher supply package? There are many elements this teacher supply package? There are many elements to this teacher supply package? There are many elements to the this teacher supply package? There are many elements to the package this teacher supply package? 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This has cost the taxpayer a further offer had to be renegotiated. 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What has the minister done to resolve this cost blowout? to resolve this cost blowout? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Mr <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, as <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, as soon <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, as soon as <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, as soon as I <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, as soon as I received Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this information Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this information I Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this information I acted. Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this information I acted. On Mr Speaker, as soon as I received this information I acted. On Monday this information I acted. On Monday Mr this information I acted. On Monday Cabinet agreed to this information I acted. On Monday Cabinet agreed to provide this information I acted. 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Strong leadership and local Strong leadership and local knowledge Strong leadership and local knowledge was Strong leadership and local knowledge was needed Strong leadership and local knowledge was needed to Strong leadership and local knowledge was needed to get Strong leadership and local knowledge was needed to get the knowledge was needed to get the Dunedin knowledge was needed to get the Dunedin hospital knowledge was needed to get the Dunedin hospital rebuild knowledge was needed to get the Dunedin hospital rebuild on knowledge was needed to get the Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Hodgson Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Hodgson is Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Hodgson is a Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Hodgson is a former Dunedin hospital rebuild on track. Peter Hodgson is a former Minister Peter Hodgson is a former Minister Peter Hodgson is a former Minister Peter Hodgson is a former Minister of Health Peter Hodgson is a former Minister of Health and Peter Hodgson is a former Minister of Health and understands Peter Hodgson is a former Minister of Health and understands the of Health and understands the of Health and understands the of Health and understands the complexities of of Health and understands the complexities of the of Health and understands the complexities of the portfolio. of Health and understands the complexities of the portfolio. He complexities of the portfolio. He was complexities of the portfolio. He was also complexities of the portfolio. He was also the complexities of the portfolio. He was also the member complexities of the portfolio. He was also the member of complexities of the portfolio. He was also the member of Parliament was also the member of Parliament for was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin North was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin North for was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin North for 21 was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin North for 21 years was also the member of Parliament for Dunedin North for 21 years and for Dunedin North for 21 years and has for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an excellent for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an excellent grasp for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an excellent grasp of for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an excellent grasp of the for Dunedin North for 21 years and has an excellent grasp of the local has an excellent grasp of the local issues has an excellent grasp of the local issues involved. has an excellent grasp of the local issues involved. Stephen has an excellent grasp of the local issues involved. Stephen Willis has an excellent grasp of the local issues involved. Stephen Willis has issues involved. Stephen Willis has issues involved. Stephen Willis has issues involved. Stephen Willis has a nursing issues involved. Stephen Willis has a nursing background issues involved. Stephen Willis has a nursing background and issues involved. Stephen Willis has a nursing background and is issues involved. Stephen Willis has a nursing background and is Otago a nursing background and is Otago University's a nursing background and is Otago University's chief a nursing background and is Otago University's chief operating a nursing background and is Otago University's chief operating office University's chief operating office and University's chief operating office and has University's chief operating office and has managed University's chief operating office and has managed significant and has managed significant health-related and has managed significant health-related projects and has managed significant health-related projects abroad. and has managed significant health-related projects abroad. Has health-related projects abroad. Has he health-related projects abroad. Has he received health-related projects abroad. Has he received any health-related projects abroad. Has he received any briefings health-related projects abroad. Has he received any briefings or health-related projects abroad. Has he received any briefings or advice he received any briefings or advice from he received any briefings or advice from the he received any briefings or advice from the Southern he received any briefings or advice from the Southern Partnership he received any briefings or advice from the Southern Partnership Group from the Southern Partnership Group since from the Southern Partnership Group since being from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn in from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn in as from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn in as min from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn in as min ster from the Southern Partnership Group since being sworn in as min ster of since being sworn in as min ster of health since being sworn in as min ster of from since being sworn in as min ster of health and prior since being sworn in as min ster of health and prior to since being sworn in as min ster of health and prior to the since being sworn in as min ster of health and prior to the appointment health and prior to the appointment of health and prior to the appointment of Pete health and prior to the appointment of Pete Hodgson health and prior to the appointment of Pete Hodgson as health and prior to the appointment of Pete Hodgson as SPG health and prior to the appointment of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? health and prior to the appointment of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. Supplementary. of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. Supplementary. How of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. Supplementary. How will of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. Supplementary. How will he of Pete Hodgson as SPG chair? Yes. Supplementary. How will he ensure Supplementary. How will he ensure that Supplementary. How will he ensure that he Supplementary. How will he ensure that he received Supplementary. How will he ensure that he received independent Supplementary. How will he ensure that he received independent advice that he received independent advice that he received independent advice that he received independent advice on the that he received independent advice on the Dunedin that he received independent advice on the Dunedin hospital that he received independent advice on the Dunedin hospital rebuild that he received independent advice on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he has on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he has sacked on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he has sacked the on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he has sacked the two on the Dunedin hospital rebuild now that he has sacked the two members that he has sacked the two members of that he has sacked the two members of the that he has sacked the two members of the SPG that he has sacked the two members of the SPG who that he has sacked the two members of the SPG who provided that he has sacked the two members of the SPG who provided that of the SPG who provided that perspective of the SPG who provided that perspective and of the SPG who provided that perspective and replaced of the SPG who provided that perspective and replaced him of the SPG who provided that perspective and replaced him with perspective and replaced him with his perspective and replaced him with his close perspective and replaced him with his close personal perspective and replaced him with his close personal friend perspective and replaced him with his close personal friend and perspective and replaced him with his close personal friend and Labour his close personal friend and Labour Party his close personal friend and Labour Party hack his close personal friend and Labour Party hack Pete his close personal friend and Labour Party hack Pete Hodgson? his close personal friend and Labour Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, his close personal friend and Labour Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will resume Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will resume his Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will resume his seat. Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will resume his seat. To Party hack Pete Hodgson? No, the member will resume his seat. To the member will resume his seat. To the minister member will resume his seat. To the minister - member will resume his seat. To the minister - supplementary, member will resume his seat. To the minister - supplementary, what minister - supplementary, what further minister - supplementary, what further reports minister - supplementary, what further reports has minister - supplementary, what further reports has he minister - supplementary, what further reports has he received further reports has he received further reports has he received further reports has he received about the further reports has he received about the Southern further reports has he received about the Southern Partnership about the Southern Partnership Group? about the Southern Partnership Group? I about the Southern Partnership Group? I have about the Southern Partnership Group? I have received about the Southern Partnership Group? I have received plenty about the Southern Partnership Group? I have received plenty of Group? I have received plenty of compliments Group? I have received plenty of compliments on Group? I have received plenty of compliments on the Group? I have received plenty of compliments on the appointment Group? I have received plenty of compliments on the appointment of compliments on the appointment of Pete compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on as compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on as head compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on as head of compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on as head of the compliments on the appointment of Pete Hodge-on as head of the earn Pete Hodge-on as head of the earn partnership Pete Hodge-on as head of the earn partnership group. Pete Hodge-on as head of the earn partnership group. Votes Pete Hodge-on as head of the earn partnership group. Votes of partnership group. Votes of congratulations partnership group. Votes of congratulations have partnership group. Votes of congratulations have come partnership group. Votes of congratulations have come from congratulations have come from across congratulations have come from across the congratulations have come from across the political congratulations have come from across the political spectrum, across the political spectrum, including across the political spectrum, including members across the political spectrum, including members of across the political spectrum, including members of the across the political spectrum, including members of the National including members of the National including members of the National including members of the National Party both including members of the National Party both former including members of the National Party both former and including members of the National Party both former and present. Party both former and present. Question Party both former and present. Question No. Party both former and present. Question No. 11. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Social My question is to the Minister for Social Development: My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Of My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Of the My question is to the Minister for Social Development: Of the 276,041 Social Development: Of the 276,041 people Social Development: Of the 276,041 people currently Social Development: Of the 276,041 people currently on Social Development: Of the 276,041 people currently on working-age people currently on working-age benefits, people currently on working-age benefits, how people currently on working-age benefits, how many people currently on working-age benefits, how many have people currently on working-age benefits, how many have been people currently on working-age benefits, how many have been on people currently on working-age benefits, how many have been on a benefits, how many have been on a benefit benefits, how many have been on a benefit for benefits, how many have been on a benefit for more benefits, how many have been on a benefit for more than benefits, how many have been on a benefit for more than 20 benefits, how many have been on a benefit for more than 20 years benefits, how many have been on a benefit for more than 20 years and benefit for more than 20 years and how benefit for more than 20 years and how many benefit for more than 20 years and how many people benefit for more than 20 years and how many people will benefit for more than 20 years and how many people will she benefit for more than 20 years and how many people will she reduce benefit for more than 20 years and how many people will she reduce it how many people will she reduce it by how many people will she reduce it by in how many people will she reduce it by in the how many people will she reduce it by in the next how many people will she reduce it by in the next year? As As of As of September As of September this As of September this year, As of September this year, almost As of September this year, almost 26,000 As of September this year, almost 26,000 people As of September this year, almost 26,000 people have As of September this year, almost 26,000 people have been As of September this year, almost 26,000 people have been on As of September this year, almost 26,000 people have been on a As of September this year, almost 26,000 people have been on a main 26,000 people have been on a main benefit 26,000 people have been on a main benefit for 26,000 people have been on a main benefit for over 26,000 people have been on a main benefit for over 20 26,000 people have been on a main benefit for over 20 years. 26,000 people have been on a main benefit for over 20 years. It's benefit for over 20 years. It's clear benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to me benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to me that benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to me that anybody benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to me that anybody reliant benefit for over 20 years. It's clear to me that anybody reliant on clear to me that anybody reliant on a clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit for clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit for over clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit for over two clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit for over two decades clear to me that anybody reliant on a benefit for over two decades faces a benefit for over two decades faces many a benefit for over two decades faces many barriers a benefit for over two decades faces many barriers to a benefit for over two decades faces many barriers to employment. a benefit for over two decades faces many barriers to employment. It a benefit for over two decades faces many barriers to employment. It is many barriers to employment. It is highly many barriers to employment. It is highly likely many barriers to employment. It is highly likely that many barriers to employment. It is highly likely that the many barriers to employment. It is highly likely that the vast many barriers to employment. It is highly likely that the vast majority highly likely that the vast majority of highly likely that the vast majority of these highly likely that the vast majority of these do highly likely that the vast majority of these do not highly likely that the vast majority of these do not have highly likely that the vast majority of these do not have work of these do not have work obligations of these do not have work obligations due of these do not have work obligations due to obligations due to disability, obligations due to obligations due to disability, ongoing illness obligations due to disability, ongoing illness or obligations due to disability, ongoing illness or because obligations due to disability, ongoing illness or because they obligations due to disability, ongoing illness or because they are ongoing illness or because they are caring ongoing illness or because they are caring for ongoing illness or because they are caring for others. ongoing illness or because they are caring for others. Where ongoing illness or because they are caring for others. Where any ongoing illness or because they are caring for others. Where any of caring for others. Where any of these caring for others. Where any of these people caring for others. Where any of these people can caring for others. Where any of these people can work, caring for others. Where any of these people can work, we caring for others. Where any of these people can work, we will these people can work, we will support these people can work, we will support them, these people can work, we will support them, but these people can work, we will support them, but we these people can work, we will support them, but we will these people can work, we will support them, but we will not these people can work, we will support them, but we will not be support them, but we will not be setting support them, but we will not be setting crude support them, but we will not be setting crude arbitrary support them, but we will not be setting crude arbitrary targets. support them, but we will not be setting crude arbitrary targets. How setting crude arbitrary targets. How will setting crude arbitrary targets. How will the setting crude arbitrary targets. How will the minister setting crude arbitrary targets. How will the minister reduce setting crude arbitrary targets. How will the minister reduce the will the minister reduce the long-term will the minister reduce the long-term benefit will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt of will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt of the long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who have long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who have been long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who have been on long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who have been on a long-term benefit receipt of the 67,891 people who have been on a job 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker benefit 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker benefit for 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker benefit for more 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker benefit for more than 67,891 people who have been on a job Seeker benefit for more than one Seeker benefit for more than one year? Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some of Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some of the Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some of the figures Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some of the figures we Seeker benefit for more than one year? Some of the figures we weren't year? Some of the figures we weren't able year? Some of the figures we weren't able to year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get going year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get going back year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get going back 20 year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get going back 20 years year? Some of the figures we weren't able to get going back 20 years but able to get going back 20 years but able to get going back 20 years but able to get going back 20 years but I do able to get going back 20 years but I do want able to get going back 20 years but I do want to able to get going back 20 years but I do want to share able to get going back 20 years but I do want to share with able to get going back 20 years but I do want to share with the able to get going back 20 years but I do want to share with the member I do want to share with the member that I do want to share with the member year? I do want to share with the member that over the I do want to share with the member that over the last I do want to share with the member that over the last ten I do want to share with the member that over the last ten years I do want to share with the member that over the last ten years the that over the last ten years the 45,000 that over the last ten years the 45,000 of that over the last ten years the 45,000 of the that over the last ten years the 45,000 of the 63,000 that over the last ten years the 45,000 of the 63,000 who that over the last ten years the 45,000 of the 63,000 who have 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently been 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently been on 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently been on benefits 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently been on benefits have 45,000 of the 63,000 who have consistently been on benefits have a consistently been on benefits have a disabling consistently been on benefits have a disabling illness consistently been on benefits have a disabling illness or consistently been on benefits have a disabling illness or a consistently been on benefits have a disabling illness or a disability disabling illness or a disability that disabling illness or a disability that impacted disabling illness or a disability that impacted on disabling illness or a disability that impacted on their disabling illness or a disability that impacted on their ability disabling illness or a disability that impacted on their ability to that impacted on their ability to work. that impacted on their ability to work. We that impacted on their ability to work. We are that impacted on their ability to work. We are committed that impacted on their ability to work. We are committed to that impacted on their ability to work. We are committed to working that impacted on their ability to disabling that impacted on their ability to with all communities that impacted on their ability to with all communities to that impacted on their ability to with all communities to get that impacted on their ability to with all communities to get them with all communities to get them into with all communities to get them into meaningful, with all communities to get them into meaningful, paid, with all communities to get them into meaningful, paid, sustainable into meaningful, paid, sustainable into meaningful, paid, sustainable into meaningful, paid, sustainable employment and, into meaningful, paid, sustainable employment and, as into meaningful, paid, sustainable employment and, as I've into meaningful, paid, sustainable employment and, as I've said into meaningful, paid, sustainable employment and, as I've said before employment and, as I've said before employment and, as I've said before employment and, as I've said before in the employment and, as I've said before in the House, employment and, as I've said before in the House, one employment and, as I've said before in the House, one of employment and, as I've said before in the House, one of the employment and, as I've said before in the House, one of the ways employment and, as I've said before in the House, one of the ways in in the House, one of the ways in which in the House, one of the ways in which we in the House, one of the ways in which we will in the House, one of the ways in which we will do in the House, one of the ways in which we will do that in the House, one of the ways in which we will do that is in the House, one of the ways in which we will do that is by which we will do that is by investing which we will do that is by investing in which we will do that is by investing in upskilling which we will do that is by investing in upskilling and which we will do that is by investing in upskilling and training investing in upskilling and training and investing in upskilling and training and providing investing in upskilling and training and providing people investing in upskilling and training and providing people with and providing people with those and providing people with and providing people with those opportunities. I and providing people with those opportunities. I asked and providing people with those opportunities. I asked about and providing people with those opportunities. I asked about the opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 on opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 on a opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 on a job-seeker opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. opportunities. I asked about the 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I think 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I think the 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I think the question 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I think the question was addressed. 67,000 on a job-seeker benefit. I think the question was addressed. It think the question was addressed. It mightn't think the question was addressed. It mightn't have think the question was addressed. It mightn't have been think the question was addressed. It mightn't have been answered think the question was addressed. It mightn't have been answered to think the question was addressed. It mightn't have been answered to the mightn't have been answered to the member's mightn't have been answered to the member's satisfaction mightn't have been answered to the member's satisfaction but mightn't have been answered to the member's satisfaction but it mightn't have been answered to the member's satisfaction but it was member's satisfaction but it was addressed. member's satisfaction but it was addressed. To member's satisfaction but it was addressed. To the member's satisfaction but it was addressed. To the minister. member's satisfaction but it was addressed. To the minister. In addressed. To the minister. In regards addressed. To the minister. In regards to addressed. To the minister. In regards to those addressed. To the minister. In regards to those on addressed. To the minister. In regards to those on the addressed. To the minister. In regards to those on the job addressed. To the minister. In regards to those on the job seeker regards to those on the job seeker benefit, regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how will regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how will the regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how will the minister regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how will the minister - regards to those on the job seeker benefit, how will the minister - how benefit, how will the minister - how will benefit, how will the minister - how will the benefit, how will the minister - how will the minister benefit, how will the minister - how will the minister reduce benefit, how will the minister - how will the minister reduce the will the minister reduce the long-term will the minister reduce the long-term benefit will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt? will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt? We will the minister reduce the long-term benefit receipt? We are long-term benefit receipt? We are committed long-term benefit receipt? We are committed to long-term benefit receipt? We are committed to providing long-term benefit receipt? We are committed to providing people long-term benefit receipt? We are committed to providing people who committed to providing people who find committed to providing people who find themselves committed to providing people who find themselves in committed to providing people who find themselves in periods committed to providing people who find themselves in periods of find themselves in periods of find themselves in periods of find themselves in periods of unemployment with find themselves in periods of unemployment with opportunity find themselves in periods of unemployment with opportunity to unemployment with opportunity to upskill unemployment with opportunity to upskill and unemployment with opportunity to upskill and train. unemployment with opportunity to upskill and train. Recently unemployment with opportunity to upskill and train. Recently we unemployment with opportunity to upskill and train. Recently we have upskill and train. Recently we have had upskill and train. Recently we have had announced upskill and train. Recently we have had announced that upskill and train. Recently we have had announced that we upskill and train. Recently we have had announced that we will upskill and train. Recently we have had announced that we will be upskill and train. Recently we have had announced that we will be making had announced that we will be making the had announced that we will be making the first had announced that we will be making the first year had announced that we will be making the first year free had announced that we will be making the first year free for had announced that we will be making the first year free for anyone had announced that we will be making the first year free for anyone who the first year free for anyone who hasn't the first year free for anyone who hasn't undertaken the first year free for anyone who hasn't undertaken any the first year free for anyone who hasn't undertaken any study. the first year free for anyone who hasn't undertaken any study. That hasn't undertaken any study. That extends hasn't undertaken any study. That extends just hasn't undertaken any study. That extends just beyond hasn't undertaken any study. That extends just beyond university extends just beyond university training, extends just beyond university training, that extends just beyond university training, that also extends just beyond university training, that also includes training, that also includes Polytechnic, training, that also includes Polytechnic, industry training, that also includes Polytechnic, industry training training, that also includes Polytechnic, industry training and Polytechnic, industry training and other Polytechnic, industry training and other opportunities. Polytechnic, industry training and other opportunities. We Polytechnic, industry training and other opportunities. We want Polytechnic, industry training and other opportunities. We want to other opportunities. We want to encourage other opportunities. We want to encourage people other opportunities. We want to encourage people who other opportunities. We want to encourage people who find other opportunities. We want to encourage people who find themselves encourage people who find themselves out encourage people who find themselves out of encourage people who find themselves out of work encourage people who find themselves out of work to encourage people who find themselves out of work to take encourage people who find themselves out of work to take up encourage people who find themselves out of work to take up upskilling out of work to take up upskilling and out of work to take up upskilling and training, out of work to take up upskilling and training, because out of work to take up upskilling and training, because in out of work to take up upskilling and training, because in the and training, because in the long-term and training, because in the long-term they and training, because in the long-term they are and training, because in the long-term they are more and training, because in the long-term they are more likely and training, because in the long-term they are more likely to and training, because in the long-term they are more likely to go long-term they are more likely to go into long-term they are more likely to go into meaningful, long-term they are more likely to go into meaningful, better-paid into meaningful, better-paid employment into meaningful, better-paid employment and into meaningful, better-paid employment and be into meaningful, better-paid employment and be able into meaningful, better-paid employment and be able to into meaningful, better-paid employment and be able to support employment and be able to support themselves employment and be able to support themselves and employment and be able to support themselves and their employment and be able to support themselves and their families. employment and be able to support themselves and their families. How themselves and their families. How can themselves and their families. How can the themselves and their families. How can the minister themselves and their families. How can the minister reconcile can the minister reconcile her can the minister reconcile can the minister reconcile her answers today can the minister reconcile her answers today with can the minister reconcile her answers today with a can the minister reconcile her answers today with a briefing can the minister reconcile her answers today with a briefing to can the minister reconcile her answers today with a briefing to the answers today with a briefing to the incoming answers today with a briefing to the incoming minister answers today with a briefing to the incoming minister that answers today with a briefing to the incoming minister that states, answers today with a briefing to the incoming minister that states, "That incoming minister that states, "That the incoming minister that states, "That the minister's incoming minister that states, "That the minister's responsibility incoming minister that states, "That the minister's responsibility is incoming minister that states, "That the minister's responsibility is for the minister's responsibility is for reducing the minister's responsibility is for reducing long-term the minister's responsibility is for reducing long-term benefit the minister's responsibility is for reducing long-term benefit receipt reducing long-term benefit receipt and reducing long-term benefit receipt and supporting reducing long-term benefit receipt and supporting people reducing long-term benefit receipt and supporting people into reducing long-term benefit receipt and supporting people into work"? and supporting people into work"? 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Given that the superior report that Given that the superior report that was Given that the superior report that was completed Given that the superior report that was completed under Given that the superior report that was completed under the Given that the superior report that was completed under the previous was completed under the previous Government's was completed under the previous Government's watch was completed under the previous Government's watch showed was completed under the previous Government's watch showed that Government's watch showed that a Government's watch showed that Government's watch showed that a large number Government's watch showed that a large number of Government's watch showed that a large number of people Government's watch showed that a large number of people were Government's watch showed that a large number of people were ending large number of people were ending up large number of people were ending up back large number of people were ending up back on large number of people were ending up back on benefit large number of people were ending up back on benefit after large number of people were ending up back on benefit after two large number of people were ending up back on benefit after two years, up back on benefit after two years, having up back on benefit after two years, having found up back on benefit after two years, having found employment up back on benefit after two years, having found employment but up back on benefit after two years, having found employment but then having found employment but then back having found employment but then back on having found employment but then back on benefit, having found employment but then back on benefit, I having found employment but then back on benefit, I think having found employment but then back on benefit, I think that having found employment but then back on benefit, I think that our back on benefit, I think that our commitment back on benefit, I think that our commitment to back on benefit, I think that our commitment to supporting back on benefit, I think that our commitment to supporting people back on benefit, I think that our commitment to supporting people who commitment to supporting people who are commitment to supporting people who are unemployed commitment to supporting people who are unemployed to commitment to supporting people who are unemployed to take commitment to supporting people who are unemployed to take up commitment to supporting people who are unemployed to take up upskilling are unemployed to take up upskilling and are unemployed to take up upskilling and training, are unemployed to take up upskilling and training, is are unemployed to take up upskilling and training, is a are unemployed to take up upskilling and training, is a better are unemployed to take up upskilling and training, is a better strategy and training, is a better strategy for and training, is a better strategy for ensuring and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that they and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that they do and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that they do not and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that they do not end and training, is a better strategy for ensuring that they do not end up for ensuring that they do not end up back for ensuring that they do not end up back on for ensuring that they do not end up back on a for ensuring that they do not end up back on a benefit for ensuring that they do not end up back on a benefit or for ensuring that they do not end up back on a benefit or become back on a benefit or become long-term back on a benefit or become long-term welfare back on a benefit or become long-term welfare dependent. long-term welfare dependent. Supplementary long-term welfare dependent. Supplementary question. long-term welfare dependent. Supplementary question. How long-term welfare dependent. Supplementary question. How does long-term welfare dependent. Supplementary question. How does she Supplementary question. How does she plan Supplementary question. How does she plan to Supplementary question. How does she plan to support Supplementary question. How does she plan to support people Supplementary question. How does she plan to support people on Supplementary question. How does she plan to support people on benefits plan to support people on benefits into plan to support people on benefits into work? plan to support people on benefits into work? This plan to support people on benefits into work? This Government plan to support people on benefits into work? This Government will into work? This Government will support into work? This Government will support people into work? This Government will support people into into work? This Government will support people into genuine into work? This Government will support people into genuine paid support people into genuine paid work support people into genuine paid work by support people into genuine paid work by focusing support people into genuine paid work by focusing on support people into genuine paid work by focusing on education, work by focusing on education, upskilling work by focusing on education, upskilling and work by focusing on education, upskilling and training work by focusing on education, upskilling and training those work by focusing on education, upskilling and training those who upskilling and training those who find upskilling and training those who find themselves upskilling and training those who find themselves in upskilling and training those who find themselves in need upskilling and training those who find themselves in need of upskilling and training those who find themselves in need of support find themselves in need of support and find themselves in need of support and on find themselves in need of support and on a find themselves in need of support and on a benefit. find themselves in need of support and on a benefit. We find themselves in need of support and on a benefit. We will find themselves in need of support and on a benefit. We will be and on a benefit. We will be focusing and on a benefit. We will be focusing on and on a benefit. We will be focusing on people's and on a benefit. We will be focusing on people's potential and on a benefit. We will be focusing on people's potential and focusing on people's potential and building focusing on people's potential and building skills focusing on people's potential and building skills and focusing on people's potential and building skills and capability focusing on people's potential and building skills and capability to building skills and capability to help building skills and capability to help them building skills and capability to help them into building skills and capability to help them into sustainable building skills and capability to help them into sustainable work. building skills and capability to help them into sustainable work. We help them into sustainable work. We intend help them into sustainable work. We intend for help them into sustainable work. We intend for people help them into sustainable work. We intend for people to help them into sustainable work. We intend for people to be help them into sustainable work. We intend for people to be better help them into sustainable work. We intend for people to be better off, intend for people to be better off, not intend for people to be better off, not just intend for people to be better off, not just off intend for people to be better off, not just off benefit. intend for people to be better off, not just off benefit. What intend for people to be better off, not just off benefit. What advice not just off benefit. What advice has not just off benefit. What advice has the not just off benefit. What advice has the minister not just off benefit. What advice has the minister received not just off benefit. What advice has the minister received about has the minister received about long-term has the minister received about long-term benefit has the minister received about long-term benefit receipt has the minister received about long-term benefit receipt and long-term benefit receipt and children long-term benefit receipt and children in long-term benefit receipt and children in poverty long-term benefit receipt and children in poverty and long-term benefit receipt and children in poverty and hardship? children in poverty and hardship? Children children in poverty and hardship? Children in children in poverty and hardship? Children in poverty children in poverty and hardship? Children in poverty and children in poverty and hardship? Children in poverty and hardship Children in poverty and hardship Children in poverty and hardship Children in poverty and hardship benefit from Children in poverty and hardship benefit from having Children in poverty and hardship benefit from having parents Children in poverty and hardship benefit from having parents who Children in poverty and hardship benefit from having parents who have benefit from having parents who have undertaken benefit from having parents who have undertaken education benefit from having parents who have undertaken education and benefit from having parents who have undertaken education and training undertaken education and training and undertaken education and training and have undertaken education and training and have higher undertaken education and training and have higher levels undertaken education and training and have higher levels of and have higher levels of and have higher levels of and have higher levels of educational achievement. and have higher levels of educational achievement. When educational achievement. When parents educational achievement. When parents role educational achievement. When parents role model educational achievement. When parents role model that educational achievement. When parents role model that in educational achievement. When parents role model that in the educational achievement. When parents role model that in the home parents role model that in the home kids parents role model that in the home kids are parents role model that in the home kids are more parents role model that in the home kids are more likely parents role model that in the home kids are more likely to parents role model that in the home kids are more likely to go parents role model that in the home kids are more likely to go on parents role model that in the home kids are more likely to go on and kids are more likely to go on and achieve kids are more likely to go on and achieve in kids are more likely to go on and achieve in those kids are more likely to go on and achieve in those areas kids are more likely to go on and achieve in those areas as kids are more likely to go on and achieve in those areas as well. kids are more likely to go on and achieve in those areas as well. That achieve in those areas as well. That is achieve in those areas as well. That is something achieve in those areas as well. That is something that achieve in those areas as well. That is something that we, achieve in those areas as well. That is something that we, as achieve in those areas as well. That is something that we, as a is something that we, as a Government, is something that we, as a Government, will is something that we, as a Government, will be is something that we, as a Government, will be supporting. Government, will be supporting. Question Government, will be supporting. Question No. Government, will be supporting. Question No. 12. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Associate My question is to the Associate Minister My question is to the Associate Minister of My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: What My question is to the Associate Minister of Health: What recent Minister of Health: What recent reports Minister of Health: What recent reports has Minister of Health: What recent reports has she Minister of Health: What recent reports has she received Minister of Health: What recent reports has she received on Minister of Health: What recent reports has she received on Maori reports has she received on Maori and reports has she received on Maori and Pacific reports has she received on Maori and Pacific adults' reports has she received on Maori and Pacific adults' access reports has she received on Maori and Pacific adults' access to and Pacific adults' access to primary and Pacific adults' access to primary health and Pacific adults' access to primary health care? I I have I have seen I have seen the I have seen the first I have seen the first release I have seen the first release of I have seen the first release of statistics I have seen the first release of statistics from I have seen the first release of statistics from the I have seen the first release of statistics from the 2016 I have seen the first release of statistics from the 2016 to I have seen the first release of statistics from the 2016 to 2017 I have seen the first release of statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New Zealand statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New Zealand health statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New Zealand health survey statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New Zealand health survey which statistics from the 2016 to 2017 New Zealand health survey which shows Zealand health survey which shows Zealand health survey which shows Zealand health survey which shows that the Zealand health survey which shows that the number Zealand health survey which shows that the number of Zealand health survey which shows that the number of Maori Zealand health survey which shows that the number of Maori adults Zealand health survey which shows that the number of Maori adults who that the number of Maori adults who reported that the number of Maori adults who reported not that the number of Maori adults who reported not visiting that the number of Maori adults who reported not visiting a that the number of Maori adults who reported not visiting a GP that the number of Maori adults who reported not visiting a GP due that the number of Maori adults who reported not visiting a GP due to reported not visiting a GP due to cost reported not visiting a GP due to cost in reported not visiting a GP due to cost in the reported not visiting a GP due to cost in the previous reported not visiting a GP due to cost in the previous year reported not visiting a GP due to cost in the previous year was cost in the previous year was estimated cost in the previous year was estimated to cost in the previous year was estimated to be cost in the previous year was estimated to be 110,000 cost in the previous year was estimated to be 110,000 and cost in the previous year was estimated to be 110,000 and the estimated to be 110,000 and the number estimated to be 110,000 and the number for estimated to be 110,000 and the number for Pacific estimated to be 110,000 and the number for Pacific adults estimated to be 110,000 and the number for Pacific adults was number for Pacific adults was number for Pacific adults was number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This is number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This is not number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This is not good number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This is not good enough number for Pacific adults was 42,000. This is not good enough and 42,000. This is not good enough and we 42,000. This is not good enough and we need 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to do 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to do better 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to do better to 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to do better to reduce 42,000. This is not good enough and we need to do better to reduce the we need to do better to reduce the cost we need to do better to reduce the cost barriers we need to do better to reduce the cost barriers that we need to do better to reduce the cost barriers that our we need to do better to reduce the cost barriers that our people we need to do better to reduce the cost barriers that our people are cost barriers that our people are having, cost barriers that our people are having, especially cost barriers that our people are having, especially in cost barriers that our people are having, especially in terms cost barriers that our people are having, especially in terms of cost barriers that our people are having, especially in terms of early having, especially in terms of early preventative having, especially in terms of early preventative healthcare having, especially in terms of early preventative healthcare services having, especially in terms of early preventative healthcare services and preventative healthcare services and treatment, preventative healthcare services and treatment, so preventative healthcare services and treatment, so that preventative healthcare services and treatment, so that they preventative healthcare services and treatment, so that they do preventative healthcare services and treatment, so that they do not preventative healthcare services and treatment, so that they do not end treatment, so that they do not end up treatment, so that they do not end up in treatment, so that they do not end up in emergency treatment, so that they do not end up in emergency departments. up in emergency departments. Supplementary. up in emergency departments. Supplementary. How up in emergency departments. Supplementary. How do up in emergency departments. Supplementary. How do these Supplementary. How do these statistics Supplementary. How do these statistics and Supplementary. How do these statistics and cost Supplementary. How do these statistics and cost barriers Supplementary. How do these statistics and cost barriers -- statistics and cost barriers -- statistics and cost barriers -- statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for visiting statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for visiting a statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for visiting a GP statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for visiting a GP for statistics and cost barriers -- barriers for visiting a GP for Maori barriers for visiting a GP for Maori barriers for visiting a GP for Maori barriers for visiting a GP for Maori and Pasifika barriers for visiting a GP for Maori and Pasifika adults barriers for visiting a GP for Maori and Pasifika adults compare barriers for visiting a GP for Maori and Pasifika adults compare to and Pasifika adults compare to and Pasifika adults compare to and Pasifika adults compare to recent years? and Pasifika adults compare to recent years? Sadly, and Pasifika adults compare to recent years? Sadly, these and Pasifika adults compare to recent years? Sadly, these reported recent years? Sadly, these reported numbers recent years? Sadly, these reported numbers are recent years? Sadly, these reported numbers are stayed recent years? Sadly, these reported numbers are stayed stubbornly recent years? Sadly, these reported numbers are stayed stubbornly high. numbers are stayed stubbornly high. Relatively numbers are stayed stubbornly high. Relatively unchanged numbers are stayed stubbornly high. Relatively unchanged from numbers are stayed stubbornly high. Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. numbers are stayed stubbornly high. Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want to Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want to emphasise Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want to emphasise that Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want to emphasise that Maori Relatively unchanged from 2011/12. I want to emphasise that Maori adults want to emphasise that Maori adults were want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly 1.6 want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly 1.6 times want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly 1.6 times more want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly 1.6 times more likely want to emphasise that Maori adults were nearly 1.6 times more likely to were nearly 1.6 times more likely to have were nearly 1.6 times more likely to have not were nearly 1.6 times more likely to have not visited were nearly 1.6 times more likely to have not visited their were nearly 1.6 times more likely to have not visited their general have not visited their general have not visited their general have not visited their general practice due have not visited their general practice due to have not visited their general practice due to cost have not visited their general practice due to cost than have not visited their general practice due to cost than non-Maori practice due to cost than non-Maori in practice due to cost than non-Maori in the practice due to cost than non-Maori in the past practice due to cost than non-Maori in the past 12 practice due to cost than non-Maori in the past 12 months practice due to cost than non-Maori in the past 12 months and practice due to cost than non-Maori in the past 12 months and for in the past 12 months and for Pacific in the past 12 months and for Pacific adults in the past 12 months and for Pacific adults 1.1 in the past 12 months and for Pacific adults 1.1 times in the past 12 months and for Pacific adults 1.1 times more in the past 12 months and for Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have visited Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have visited their Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have visited their GP Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have visited their GP due Pacific adults 1.1 times more likely not to have visited their GP due to not to have visited their GP due to not to have visited their GP due to not to have visited their GP due to cost. Supplementary. not to have visited their GP due to cost. Supplementary. What not to have visited their GP due to cost. Supplementary. What are not to have visited their GP due to cost. Supplementary. What are the cost. Supplementary. What are the Government's cost. Supplementary. What are the Government's plans cost. Supplementary. What are the Government's plans to cost. Supplementary. What are the Government's plans to reduce cost. Supplementary. What are the Government's plans to reduce the Government's plans to reduce the cost Government's plans to reduce the cost of Government's plans to reduce the cost of primary Government's plans to reduce the cost of primary care Government's plans to reduce the cost of primary care for Government's plans to reduce the cost of primary care for Maori Government's plans to reduce the cost of primary care for Maori and cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific adults? cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific adults? We cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific adults? We are cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific adults? We are committed cost of primary care for Maori and Pacific adults? We are committed to Pacific adults? We are committed to reducing Pacific adults? We are committed to reducing cost Pacific adults? We are committed to reducing cost barriers Pacific adults? We are committed to reducing cost barriers for Pacific adults? We are committed to reducing cost barriers for visiting reducing cost barriers for visiting general reducing cost barriers for visiting general practitioners reducing cost barriers for visiting general practitioners and reducing cost barriers for visiting general practitioners and we reducing cost barriers for visiting general practitioners and we are general practitioners and we are planning general practitioners and we are planning to general practitioners and we are planning to reduce general practitioners and we are planning to reduce the general practitioners and we are planning to reduce the cost, general practitioners and we are planning to reduce the cost, say, general practitioners and we are planning to reduce the cost, say, of planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a GP planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a GP by planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a GP by $10 planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a GP by $10 for planning to reduce the cost, say, of visiting a GP by $10 for New visiting a GP by $10 for New visiting a GP by $10 for New visiting a GP by $10 for New Zealanders. This visiting a GP by $10 for New Zealanders. This will visiting a GP by $10 for New Zealanders. This will go visiting a GP by $10 for New Zealanders. This will go through visiting a GP by $10 for New Zealanders. This will go through the Zealanders. This will go through the normal Zealanders. This will go through the normal budget Zealanders. This will go through the normal budget process Zealanders. This will go through the normal budget process and Zealanders. This will go through the normal budget process and we Zealanders. This will go through the normal budget process and we expect normal budget process and we expect that normal budget process and we expect that Maori normal budget process and we expect that Maori and normal budget process and we expect that Maori and Pacific normal budget process and we expect that Maori and Pacific will normal budget process and we expect that Maori and Pacific will be normal budget process and we expect that Maori and Pacific will be able that Maori and Pacific will be able to that Maori and Pacific will be able to access that Maori and Pacific will be able to access cheaper that Maori and Pacific will be able to access cheaper GP that Maori and Pacific will be able to access cheaper GP visits that Maori and Pacific will be able to access cheaper GP visits next to access cheaper GP visits next to access cheaper GP visits next to access cheaper GP visits next year. This to access cheaper GP visits next year. This Government to access cheaper GP visits next year. This Government is to access cheaper GP visits next year. This Government is committed year. This Government is committed to year. This Government is committed to ensuring year. This Government is committed to ensuring more year. This Government is committed to ensuring more New year. This Government is committed to ensuring more New Zealanders year. This Government is committed to ensuring more New Zealanders can to ensuring more New Zealanders can access to ensuring more New Zealanders can access primary to ensuring more New Zealanders can access primary care. to ensuring more New Zealanders can access primary care. That to ensuring more New Zealanders can access primary care. That concludes access primary care. That concludes Oral access primary care. That concludes Oral Questions. access primary care. That concludes Oral Questions. I access primary care. That concludes Oral Questions. I have access primary care. That concludes Oral Questions. I have received access primary care. That concludes Oral Questions. I have received a Oral Questions. I have received a letter Oral Questions. I have received a letter from Oral Questions. I have received a letter from the Oral Questions. I have received a letter from the Hon Oral Questions. I have received a letter from the Hon Nikki Oral Questions. I have received a letter from the Hon Nikki Kaye