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INTERPRETER: INTERPRETER: Almighty INTERPRETER: Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Today Today the Today the House Today the House will Today the House will go Today the House will go in Today the House will go in urgency Today the House will go in urgency to Today the House will go in urgency to pass Today the House will go in urgency to pass the Today the House will go in urgency to pass the Families Today the House will go in urgency to pass the Families Package Today the House will go in urgency to pass the Families Package (Income to pass the Families Package (Income Tax to pass the Families Package (Income Tax and to pass the Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) to pass the Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) Bill to pass the Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) Bill - to pass the Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) Bill - a Tax and Benefits) Bill - a cornerstone Tax and Benefits) Bill - a of Tax and Benefits) Bill - a cornerstone of the Tax and Benefits) Bill - a cornerstone of the Government's Tax and Benefits) Bill - a cornerstone of the Government's 100 cornerstone of the Government's 100 day cornerstone of the Government's 100 day plan. cornerstone of the Government's 100 day plan. On cornerstone of the Government's 100 day plan. On Tuesday, cornerstone of the Government's 100 day plan. On Tuesday, 19 cornerstone of the Government's 100 day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the House day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the House will day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the House will consider day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the House will consider the day plan. On Tuesday, 19 December the House will consider the first the House will consider the first reading the House will consider the first reading of the House will consider the first reading of the the House will consider the first reading of the overseas the House will consider the first reading of the overseas investment reading of the overseas investment Bill reading of the overseas investment Bill and reading of the overseas investment Bill and the reading of the overseas investment Bill and the remaining reading of the overseas investment Bill and the remaining stages reading of the overseas investment Bill and the remaining stages of reading of the overseas investment Bill and the remaining stages of the Bill and the remaining stages of the Christ Bill and the remaining stages of the Christ Church Bill and the remaining stages of the Christ Church cathedral Bill and the remaining stages of the Christ Church cathedral reinstate Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On 20 Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On 20 December Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On 20 December there Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On 20 December there will Christ Church cathedral reinstate bill. On 20 December there will be bill. On 20 December there will be an bill. On 20 December there will be an extended bill. On 20 December there will be an extended sitting bill. On 20 December there will be an extended sitting for bill. On 20 December there will be an extended sitting for the bill. On 20 December there will be an extended sitting for the first an extended sitting for the first reading an extended sitting for the first reading of an extended sitting for the first reading of the an extended sitting for the first reading of the settlement an extended sitting for the first reading of the settlement bill, an extended sitting for the first reading of the settlement bill, and reading of the settlement bill, and the reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading of reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading of the reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading of the iwi reading of the settlement bill, and the second reading of the iwi and the second reading of the iwi and hapu the second reading of the iwi and hapu claims the second reading of the iwi and hapu claims settlement the second reading of the iwi and hapu claims settlement bill. the second reading of the iwi and hapu claims settlement bill. On hapu claims settlement bill. On Wednesday hapu claims settlement bill. On hapu hapu claims settlement bill. On Wednesday afternoon, the hapu claims settlement bill. On Wednesday afternoon, the House hapu claims settlement bill. On Wednesday afternoon, the House will Wednesday afternoon, the House will consider Wednesday afternoon, the House will consider motions Wednesday afternoon, the House will consider motions relating Wednesday afternoon, the House will consider motions relating to Wednesday afternoon, the House will consider motions relating to the Wednesday afternoon, the House will intelligence and Wednesday afternoon, the House will intelligence and security Wednesday afternoon, the House will intelligence and security committee intelligence and security committee and intelligence and security committee and will intelligence and security committee and will confirm intelligence and security committee and will confirm the intelligence and security committee and will confirm the sitting and will confirm the sitting programme and will confirm the sitting programme for and will confirm the sitting programme for next and will confirm the sitting programme for next year and will confirm the sitting programme for next year during and will confirm the sitting programme for next year during the programme for next year during the adjournment programme for next year during the adjournment debate. programme for next year during the adjournment debate. The programme for next year during the adjournment debate. The House programme for next year during the adjournment debate. The House will adjournment debate. The House will then adjournment debate. The House will then adjourn adjournment debate. The House will then adjourn until adjournment debate. The House will then adjourn until Tuesday, adjournment debate. The House will then adjourn until Tuesday, 30 then adjourn until Tuesday, 30 then then adjourn until Tuesday, 30 January 2018. Gerry then adjourn until Tuesday, 30 January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. then adjourn until Tuesday, 30 January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder if January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder if the January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder if the Leader January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder if the Leader of January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. I wonder if the Leader of the January 2018. Gerry Brownlee. 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A select committee report has been delivered committee report has been delivered for committee report has been delivered committee Report Report of Report of the Report of the Health Report of the Health Committee Report of the Health Committee on Report of the Health Committee on the Report of the Health Committee on the Petition on the Petition of on the Petition of Corinda on the Petition of Corinda Taylor on the Petition of Corinda Taylor on on the Petition of Corinda Taylor on behalf on the Petition of Corinda Taylor on behalf of of Corinda Taylor on behalf of the of Corinda Taylor on behalf of the Life of Corinda Taylor on behalf of the Life Matters of Corinda Taylor on behalf of the Life Matters Suicide of Corinda Taylor on behalf of the Life Matters Suicide Prevention the Life Matters Suicide Prevention Trust the Life Matters Suicide Prevention Trust and the Life Matters Suicide Prevention Trust and 1,740 the Life Matters Suicide Prevention Trust and 1,740 others. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed of The Clerk has been informed of the The Clerk has been informed of the introduction The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills. Families Families Package Families Package (Income Families Package (Income Tax Families Package (Income Tax and Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) Families Package (Income Tax and Benefits) Bill. Overseas Overseas Investment Overseas Investment Amendment Overseas Investment Amendment Bill Overseas Investment Amendment Bill - Overseas Investment Amendment Bill - introduction. introduction. Sale introduction. Sale and introduction. Sale and Supply introduction. Sale and Supply of introduction. Sale and Supply of Alcohol introduction. Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal of Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal of Licences) Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal of Licences) Amendment Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal of Licences) Amendment Bill Sale and Supply of Alcohol (Renewal of Licences) Amendment Bill - of Licences) Amendment Bill - introduction introduction The introduction The Bills introduction The Bills have introduction The Bills have been introduction The Bills have been set introduction The Bills have been set down introduction The Bills have been set down for The Bills have been set down for first The Bills have been set down for first reading. first reading. The first reading. The House first reading. The House comes first reading. The House comes to first reading. The House comes to Oral first reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. 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Will 100 million trees be new planting programme - yes. Will 100 million trees be planted new planting programme - yes. Will 100 million trees be planted each 100 million trees be planted each year? 100 million trees be planted each year? Yes. 100 million trees be planted each year? Yes. Does 100 million trees be planted each year? Yes. Does 100 100 million trees be planted each year? Yes. Does 100 million 100 million trees be planted each year? Yes. Does 100 million years year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied by year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied by ten year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied by ten years year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied by ten years equal year? Yes. Does 100 million years multiplied by ten years equal 1 multiplied by ten years equal 1 billion multiplied by ten years equal 1 billion trees? multiplied by ten years equal 1 billion trees? Yes. multiplied by ten years equal 1 billion trees? 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Energy My question is to the Minister of Energy and My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Is My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: Is she Energy and Resources: Is she satisfied Energy and Resources: Is she satisfied that Energy and Resources: Is she satisfied that all Energy and Resources: Is she satisfied that all New Energy and Resources: Is she satisfied that all New Zealanders satisfied that all New Zealanders are satisfied that all New Zealanders are able satisfied that all New Zealanders are able to satisfied that all New Zealanders are able to properly satisfied that all New Zealanders are able to properly meet satisfied that all New Zealanders are able to properly meet their are able to properly meet their heating are able to properly meet their heating and are able to properly meet their heating and energy are able to properly meet their heating and energy needs are able to properly meet their heating and energy needs over are able to properly meet their heating and energy needs over the heating and energy needs over the winter heating and energy needs over the winter months; heating and energy needs over the winter months; if heating and energy needs over the winter months; if not, heating and energy needs over the winter months; if not, what heating and energy needs over the winter months; if not, what is heating and energy needs over the winter months; if not, what is the winter months; if not, what is the Government winter months; if not, what is the Government doing winter months; if not, what is the Government doing to winter months; if not, what is the Government doing to support winter months; if not, what is the Government doing to support them? No. No. Too No. Too many No. Too many New No. Too many New Zealanders No. Too many New Zealanders are No. Too many New Zealanders are facing No. Too many New Zealanders are facing ever-rising No. Too many New Zealanders are facing ever-rising power No. Too many New Zealanders are facing ever-rising power bills No. Too many New Zealanders are facing ever-rising power bills and facing ever-rising power bills and this facing ever-rising power bills and this is facing ever-rising power bills and this is forcing facing ever-rising power bills and this is forcing some facing ever-rising power bills and this is forcing some people facing ever-rising power bills and this is forcing some people to facing ever-rising power bills and this is forcing some people to avoid this is forcing some people to avoid heating this is forcing some people to avoid heating their this is forcing some people to avoid heating their homes this is forcing some people to avoid heating their homes or this is forcing some people to avoid heating their homes or unable this is forcing some people to avoid heating their homes or unable to heating their homes or unable to cover heating their homes or unable to cover other heating their homes or unable to cover other expenses heating their homes or unable to cover other expenses to heating their homes or unable to cover other expenses to ensure heating their homes or unable to cover other expenses to ensure that cover other expenses to ensure that they, cover other expenses to ensure that they, and/or cover other expenses to ensure that they, and/or their cover other expenses to ensure that they, and/or their families cover other expenses to ensure that they, and/or their families are cover other expenses to ensure that they, and/or their families are kept they, and/or their families are kept warm they, and/or their families are kept warm and they, and/or their families are kept warm and healthy. they, and/or their families are kept warm and healthy. This they, and/or their families are kept warm and healthy. This Government warm and healthy. This Government doesn't warm and healthy. This Government doesn't think warm and healthy. This Government doesn't think that's warm and healthy. This Government doesn't think that's good warm and healthy. This Government doesn't think that's good enough. doesn't think that's good enough. That doesn't think that's good enough. That is doesn't think that's good enough. That is why doesn't think that's good enough. That is why today doesn't think that's good enough. That is why today the doesn't think that's good enough. That is why today the Government doesn't think that's good enough. That is why today the Government has That is why today the Government has announced That is why today the Government has announced a That is why today the Government has announced a Winter That is why today the Government has announced a Winter Energy That is why today the Government has announced a Winter Energy Payment announced a Winter Energy Payment from announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 July announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 July 2018 announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 July 2018 available announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 July 2018 available to announced a Winter Energy Payment from 1 July 2018 available to those from 1 July 2018 available to those receiving from 1 July 2018 available to those receiving New from 1 July 2018 available to those receiving New Zealand from 1 July 2018 available to those receiving New Zealand superannuation receiving New Zealand superannuation or receiving New Zealand superannuation or a receiving New Zealand superannuation or a veterans receiving New Zealand superannuation or a veterans pension receiving New Zealand superannuation or a veterans pension as receiving New Zealand superannuation or a veterans pension as well receiving New Zealand superannuation or a veterans pension as well as or a veterans pension as well as people or a veterans pension as well as people receiving or a veterans pension as well as people receiving a or a veterans pension as well as people receiving a main or a veterans pension as well as people receiving a main benefit. people receiving a main benefit. This people receiving a main benefit. This will people receiving a main benefit. This will help people receiving a main benefit. This will help nearly people receiving a main benefit. This will help nearly 1 people receiving a main benefit. This will help nearly 1 million people receiving a main benefit. This will help nearly 1 million New This will help nearly 1 million New Zealanders This will help nearly 1 million New Zealanders afford This will help nearly 1 million New Zealanders afford the This will help nearly 1 million New Zealanders afford the heating This will help nearly 1 million New Zealanders afford the heating they Zealanders afford the heating they need Zealanders afford the heating they need to Zealanders afford the heating they need to keep Zealanders afford the heating they need to keep their Zealanders afford the heating they need to keep their houses Zealanders afford the heating they need to keep their houses warm Zealanders afford the heating they need to keep their houses warm and need to keep their houses warm and healthy. need to keep their houses warm and healthy. Supplementary. need to keep their houses warm and healthy. Supplementary. How need to keep their houses warm and healthy. Supplementary. How long healthy. Supplementary. How long will healthy. 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The Winter Energy period important? The Winter Energy period period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run for period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run for 13 period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run for 13 weeks period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run for 13 weeks from period important? The Winter Energy Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 period Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July 2018 next Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July 2018 next year. Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July 2018 next year. In Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July 2018 next year. In future Payment will run for 13 weeks from 1 July 2018 next year. In future years July 2018 next year. In future years it July 2018 next year. In future years it will July 2018 next year. In future years it will start July 2018 next year. In future years it will start on July 2018 next year. In future years it will start on 1 July 2018 next year. In future years it will start on 1 May July 2018 next year. In future years it will start on 1 May and July 2018 next year. In future years it will start on 1 May and continue it will start on 1 May and continue for it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 weeks. it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 weeks. These it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 weeks. These months it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 weeks. These months are it will start on 1 May and continue for 22 weeks. These months are when for 22 weeks. These months are when we for 22 weeks. These months are when we face for 22 weeks. These months are when we face some for 22 weeks. These months are when we face some of for 22 weeks. These months are when we face some of the for 22 weeks. These months are when we face some of the worst for 22 weeks. These months are when we face some of the worst weather we face some of the worst weather conditions we face some of the worst weather conditions in we face some of the worst weather conditions in New we face some of the worst weather conditions in New Zealand we face some of the worst weather conditions in New Zealand in we face some of the worst weather conditions in New Zealand in helping conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly 1 conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly 1 million conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly 1 million people conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly 1 million people keep conditions in New Zealand in helping nearly 1 million people keep their nearly 1 million people keep their nearly 1 million people keep their nearly 1 million people keep their home warm nearly 1 million people keep their home warm at nearly 1 million people keep their home warm at these nearly 1 million people keep their home warm at these times nearly 1 million people keep their home warm at these times is nearly 1 million people keep their home warm at these times is vital. home warm at these times is vital. It home warm at these times is vital. It is home warm at these times is vital. It is important home warm at these times is vital. It is important to home warm at these times is vital. It is important to note home warm at these times is vital. It is important to note that home warm at these times is vital. It is important to note that there It is important to note that there are It is important to note that there are 184,000 It is important to note that there are 184,000 children It is important to note that there are 184,000 children living It is important to note that there are 184,000 children living in are 184,000 children living in are 184,000 children living in are 184,000 children living in households who are 184,000 children living in households who will are 184,000 children living in households who will receive are 184,000 children living in households who will receive this households who will receive this payment. households who will receive this payment. Supplementary. households who will receive this payment. Supplementary. How households who will receive this payment. Supplementary. How much payment. Supplementary. How much will payment. Supplementary. How much will recipients payment. Supplementary. How much will recipients receive payment. Supplementary. How much will recipients receive to payment. Supplementary. How much will recipients receive to help payment. Supplementary. How much will recipients receive to help them will recipients receive to help them warm will recipients receive to help them warm their will recipients receive to help them warm their homes? will recipients receive to help them warm their homes? When will recipients receive to help them warm their homes? When fully warm their homes? When fully implemented, warm their homes? When fully implemented, superannuitants warm their homes? When fully implemented, superannuitants and implemented, superannuitants and those implemented, superannuitants and those on implemented, superannuitants and those on a implemented, superannuitants and those on a main implemented, superannuitants and those on a main men implemented, superannuitants and those on a main men fit implemented, superannuitants and those on a main men fit will implemented, superannuitants and those on a main men fit will receive those on a main men fit will receive a those on a main men fit will receive a total those on a main men fit will receive a total of those on a main men fit will receive a total of $450 those on a main men fit will receive a total of $450 if those on a main men fit will receive a total of $450 if they those on a main men fit will receive a total of $450 if they are those on a main men fit will receive a total of $450 if they are single a total of $450 if they are single with a total of $450 if they are single with no a total of $450 if they are single with no dependent a total of $450 if they are single with no dependent children a total of $450 if they are single with no dependent children or a total of $450 if they are single with no dependent children or $700 with no dependent children or $700 with no dependent children or $700 with no dependent children or $700 for couples. with no dependent children or $700 for couples. This with no dependent children or $700 for couples. This is with no dependent children or $700 for couples. This is important, for couples. This is important, especially for couples. This is important, especially for for couples. This is important, especially for older for couples. This is important, especially for older people for couples. This is important, especially for older people on for couples. 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Question lives and help them keep their homes warm and dry. Question No. lives and help them keep their homes warm and dry. Question No. 10. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Research, My question is to the Minister of Research, Science My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and My question is to the Minister of Research, Science and Innovation: Research, Science and Innovation: What Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, if Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, if any, Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, if any, has Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, if any, has she Research, Science and Innovation: What progress, if any, has she made What progress, if any, has she made lifting What progress, if any, has she made lifting research What progress, if any, has she made lifting research and What progress, if any, has she made lifting research and development lifting research and development expenditure lifting research and development expenditure towards lifting research and development expenditure towards the lifting research and development expenditure towards the Government's expenditure towards the Government's target expenditure towards the Government's target of expenditure towards the Government's target of 2 expenditure towards the Government's target of 2 percent expenditure towards the Government's target of 2 percent of expenditure towards the Government's target of 2 percent of GDP? 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That is, a mix of Government and economy-wide target. That is, a mix of Government and business of Government and business of Government and business of Government and business expenditure. So of Government and business expenditure. So I of Government and business expenditure. So I am of Government and business expenditure. So I am happy of Government and business expenditure. So I am happy to of Government and business expenditure. So I am happy to report expenditure. So I am happy to report that expenditure. So I am happy to report that I expenditure. So I am happy to report that I am expenditure. So I am happy to report that I am making expenditure. So I am happy to report that I am making good expenditure. So I am happy to report that I am making good progress that I am making good progress towards that I am making good progress towards that that I am making good progress towards that target that I am making good progress towards that target with that I am making good progress towards that target with the that I am making good progress towards that target with the design towards that target with the design of towards that target with the design of an towards that target with the design of an R&D towards that target with the design of an R&D tax towards that target with the design of an R&D tax credit towards that target with the design of an R&D tax credit that towards that target with the design of an R&D tax credit that will towards that target with the design of an R&D tax credit that will lift of an R&D tax credit that will lift New of an R&D tax credit that will lift New Zealand's of an R&D tax credit that will lift New Zealand's business of an R&D tax credit that will lift New Zealand's business expenditure New Zealand's business expenditure to New Zealand's business expenditure to be New Zealand's business expenditure to be more New Zealand's business expenditure to be more in New Zealand's business expenditure to be more in line New Zealand's business expenditure to be more in line with New Zealand's business expenditure to be more in line with OECD to be more in line with OECD countries to be more in line with OECD countries that to be more in line with OECD countries that have to be more in line with OECD countries that have innovation to be more in line with OECD countries that have innovation at countries that have innovation at countries that have innovation at countries that have innovation at the heart countries that have innovation at the heart of countries that have innovation at the heart of their countries that have innovation at the heart of their economies. countries that have innovation at the heart of their economies. Detail the heart of their economies. Detail of the heart of their economies. Detail of the the heart of their economies. Detail of the expenditure the heart of their economies. Detail of the expenditure will, the heart of their economies. Detail of the expenditure will, of the heart of their economies. Detail of the expenditure will, of course, of the expenditure will, of course, be of the expenditure will, of course, be part of the expenditure will, of course, be part of of the expenditure will, of course, be part of the of the expenditure will, of course, be part of the budget of the expenditure will, of course, be part of the budget 2018 of the expenditure will, of course, be part of the budget 2018 process. be part of the budget 2018 process. be part of the budget 2018 process. be part of the budget 2018 process. This is be part of the budget 2018 process. This is an be part of the budget 2018 process. This is an important be part of the budget 2018 process. This is an important part be part of the budget 2018 process. This is an important part of be part of the budget 2018 process. This is an important part of our This is an important part of our Government's This is an important part of our Government's plan This is an important part of our Government's plan for This is an important part of our Government's plan for a This is an important part of our Government's plan for a higher Government's plan for a higher productivity Government's plan for a higher productivity and Government's plan for a higher productivity and high-wage Government's plan for a higher productivity and high-wage economy. productivity and high-wage economy. How productivity and high-wage economy. How can productivity and high-wage economy. How can she productivity and high-wage economy. How can she increase productivity and high-wage economy. How can she increase R&D productivity and high-wage economy. How can she increase R&D spending productivity and high-wage economy. How can she increase R&D spending by How can she increase R&D spending by taking How can she increase R&D spending by taking money How can she increase R&D spending by taking money away How can she increase R&D spending by taking money away from How can she increase R&D spending by taking money away from the taking money away from the Primary taking money away from the taking money away from the Primary Growth Partnership taking money away from the Primary Growth Partnership fund taking money away from the Primary Growth Partnership fund that taking money away from the Primary Growth Partnership fund that was Growth Partnership fund that was going Growth Partnership fund that was going to Growth Partnership fund that was going to fund Growth Partnership fund that was going to fund research Growth Partnership fund that was going to fund research and going to fund research and development going to fund research and development but going to fund research and development but has going to fund research and development but has now going to fund research and development but has now been development but has now been diverted development but has now been diverted to development but has now been diverted to fund development but has now been diverted to fund bureaucratic diverted to fund bureaucratic reshuffling diverted to fund bureaucratic reshuffling in diverted to fund bureaucratic reshuffling in Wellington? diverted to fund bureaucratic reshuffling in Wellington? 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The members will learn to not use ironic expressions learn to not use ironic expressions as learn to not use ironic expressions as part learn to not use ironic expressions as part of learn to not use ironic expressions as part of their learn to not use ironic expressions as part of their questions. learn to not use ironic expressions as part of their questions. I learn to not use ironic expressions as part of their questions. I will as part of their questions. I will finish as part of their questions. I will finish ruling as part of their questions. I will finish ruling first. as part of their questions. I will finish ruling first. I as part of their questions. I will finish ruling first. I will as part of their questions. I will finish ruling first. I will allow finish ruling first. I will allow the finish ruling first. I will allow the member finish ruling first. I will allow the member to finish ruling first. I will allow the member to rephrase finish ruling first. 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My priorities include enhancing the My priorities include enhancing the voice My priorities include enhancing the voice of My priorities include enhancing the voice of independent, My priorities include enhancing the voice of independent, non-commercial voice of independent, non-commercial public voice of independent, non-commercial Broadcasting, voice of independent, non-commercial public service media voice of independent, non-commercial public service media to voice of independent, non-commercial public service media to increase voice of independent, non-commercial public service media to increase the public service media to increase the variety public service media to increase the variety of public service media to increase the variety of media public service media to increase the variety of media platforms public service media to increase the variety of media platforms people variety of media platforms people can variety of media platforms people variety variety of media platforms people can access public variety of media platforms people can access public media, variety of media platforms people can access public media, to variety of media platforms people can access public media, to support can access public media, to support can access public media, to support can access public media, to support the people can access public media, to support the people to can access public media, to support the people to tell can access public media, to support the people to tell New can access public media, to support the people to tell New Zealand the people to tell New Zealand story, the people to tell New Zealand story, which the people to tell New Zealand story, which reflect the people to tell New Zealand story, which reflect and story, which reflect and reinforce story, which reflect and story, which reflect and reinforce our unique story, which reflect and reinforce our unique culture. story, which reflect and reinforce our unique culture. 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Does the minister agree that Does the minister agree that Does the minister agree that Does the minister agree that internet freedom Does the minister agree that internet freedom and Does the minister agree that internet freedom and a Does the minister agree that internet freedom and a strong internet freedom and a strong internet freedom and a strong internet freedom and a strong telecommunications system internet freedom and a strong telecommunications system in internet freedom and a strong telecommunications system in New telecommunications system in New telecommunications system in New telecommunications system in New Zealand means telecommunications system in New Zealand means the telecommunications system in New Zealand means the freedom telecommunications system in New Zealand means the freedom to telecommunications system in New Zealand means the freedom to access Zealand means the freedom to access lawful Zealand means the freedom to access lawful content, Zealand means the freedom to access lawful content, the Zealand means the freedom to access lawful content, the freedom Zealand means the freedom to access lawful content, the freedom to Zealand means the freedom to access lawful content, the freedom to use lawful content, the freedom to use applications, lawful content, the freedom to use applications, the lawful content, the freedom to use applications, the freedom lawful content, the freedom to use applications, the freedom to lawful content, the freedom to use applications, the freedom to attach applications, the freedom to attach personal applications, the freedom to attach personal devices applications, the freedom to attach personal devices to applications, the freedom to attach personal devices to the applications, the freedom to attach personal devices to the network applications, the freedom to attach personal devices to the network and personal devices to the network and the personal devices to the network and the freedom personal devices to the network and the freedom to personal devices to the network and the freedom to obtain personal devices to the network and the freedom to obtain service personal devices to the network and the freedom to obtain service plan the freedom to obtain service plan information the freedom to obtain service plan information and the freedom to obtain service plan information and to the freedom to obtain service plan information and to achieve the freedom to obtain service plan information and to achieve this the freedom to obtain service plan information and to achieve this the information and to achieve this the telecommunications information and to achieve this the telecommunications sector information and to achieve this the telecommunications sector needs information and to achieve this the telecommunications sector needs a telecommunications sector needs a light telecommunications sector needs a light touch telecommunications sector needs a light touch registry telecommunications sector needs a light touch registry framework telecommunications sector needs a light touch registry framework under light touch registry framework under which light touch registry framework under light light touch registry framework under which a free light touch registry framework under which a free and light touch registry framework under which a free and open light touch registry framework under which a free and open internet light touch registry framework under which a free and open internet can which a free and open internet can thrive? which a free and open internet can thrive? 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This This Government This Government recognises This Government recognises that This Government recognises that financial This Government recognises that financial support This Government recognises that financial support provides financial support provides much-needed financial support provides much-needed stability financial support provides much-needed stability to financial support provides much-needed stability to families much-needed stability to families that much-needed stability to families that struggle much-needed stability to families that struggle to much-needed stability to families that struggle to hold much-needed stability to families that struggle to hold down much-needed stability to families that struggle to hold down a much-needed stability to families that struggle to hold down a job that struggle to hold down a job while that struggle to hold down a job while caring that struggle to hold down a job while caring for that struggle to hold down a job while caring for children. that struggle to hold down a job while caring for children. 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