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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. I I regret I regret to I regret to inform I regret to inform the I regret to inform the House I regret to inform the House of I regret to inform the House of the I regret to inform the House of the death I regret to inform the House of the death on I regret to inform the House of the death on 13 I regret to inform the House of the death on 13 December I regret to inform the House of the death on 13 December 2017 of the death on 13 December 2017 of of the death on 13 December 2017 of John of the death on 13 December 2017 of John Gerald of the death on 13 December 2017 of John Gerald O'Brien, of John Gerald O'Brien, who of John Gerald O'Brien, who represented of John Gerald O'Brien, who represented the of John Gerald O'Brien, who represented the electorate who represented the electorate of who represented the electorate of Island who represented the electorate of Island Bay who represented the electorate of Island Bay for who represented the electorate of Island Bay for the who represented the electorate of Island Bay for the New who represented the electorate of Island Bay for the New Zealand of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour Party of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour Party from of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour Party from 1969 of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour Party from 1969 to of Island Bay for the New Zealand Labour Party from 1969 to 1978. 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I now ask members of the late former member. I now ask members to of the late former member. I now ask members to stand of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with of the late former member. I now ask members to stand with me I now ask members to stand with me and I now ask members to stand with me and observe I now ask members to stand with me and observe a I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of I now ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence and observe a period of silence as and observe a period of silence as a and observe a period of silence as a mark and observe a period of silence as a mark of and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for his and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect for his memory. <SILENCE> <SILENCE> Thank <SILENCE> Thank you, <SILENCE> Thank you, members. 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UNICEF New Zealand said the package "feels like a positive. UNICEF New Zealand said the package "feels like a Christmas the package "feels like a Christmas present the package "feels like a Christmas present for the package "feels like a Christmas present for every the package "feels like a Christmas present for every family the package "feels like a Christmas present for every family across the package "feels like a Christmas present for every family across New present for every family across New Zealand". present for every family across New positive. present for every family across New Zealand". Hear, hear. present for every family across New Zealand". Hear, hear. A present for every family across New Zealand". Hear, hear. A spokesperson Zealand". Hear, hear. A spokesperson for Zealand". Hear, hear. A spokesperson for the Zealand". Hear, hear. A spokesperson for the Salvation Zealand". Hear, hear. A spokesperson for the Salvation Army Zealand". Hear, hear. 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The Auckland City Mission said the package will have a Mission said the package will have a significant Mission said the package will have a significant impact Mission said the package will have a significant impact on Mission said the package will have a significant impact on the Mission said the package will have a significant impact on the lives Mission said the package will have a significant impact on the lives of significant impact on the lives of many significant impact on the lives of many of significant impact on the lives of many of New significant impact on the lives of many of New Zealand's significant impact on the lives of many of New Zealand's most many of New Zealand's most vulnerable many of New Zealand's most many many of New Zealand's most vulnerable people - many of New Zealand's most vulnerable people - our many of New Zealand's most vulnerable people - our children. vulnerable people - our children. Finally, vulnerable people - our children. 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Does she stand by her policy to deliver Yes. Does she stand by her policy to deliver 100,000 Yes. Does she stand by her policy to deliver 100,000 affordable Yes. Does she stand by her policy to deliver 100,000 affordable homes deliver 100,000 affordable homes over deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years - deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years - over deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years - over and deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years - over and above deliver 100,000 affordable homes over 10 years - over and above that over 10 years - over and above that the over 10 years - over and above that the private over 10 years - over and above that the private market over 10 years - over and above that the private market or over 10 years - over and above that the private market or former the private market or former Government the private market or former Government were the private market or former Government were going the private market or former Government were going to the private market or former Government were going to deliver? 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A joint communique was issued yesterday with a group of issued yesterday with a group of nations issued yesterday with a group of nations expressing issued yesterday with a group of nations expressing opposition issued yesterday with a group of nations expressing opposition to nations expressing opposition to Japanese nations expressing opposition to Japanese whaling nations expressing opposition to Japanese whaling which nations expressing opposition to Japanese whaling which resumed nations expressing opposition to Japanese whaling which resumed in Japanese whaling which resumed in the Japanese whaling which resumed in the Southern Japanese whaling which resumed in the Southern Ocean Japanese whaling which resumed in the Southern Ocean this Japanese whaling which resumed in the Southern Ocean this summer. Japanese whaling which resumed in the Southern Ocean this summer. This the Southern Ocean this summer. This statement the Southern Ocean this summer. 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In particular, I am concerned that DHBs have signalled a concerned that DHBs have signalled a required concerned that DHBs have signalled a required capital concerned that DHBs have signalled a required capital spend concerned that DHBs have signalled a required capital spend of concerned that DHBs have signalled a required capital spend of $14 required capital spend of $14 billion required capital spend of $14 billion over required capital spend of $14 billion over the required capital spend of $14 billion over the next required capital spend of $14 billion over the next 10 required capital spend of $14 billion over the next 10 years, billion over the next 10 years, billion over the next 10 years, billion over the next 10 years, higher than billion over the next 10 years, higher than at billion over the next 10 years, higher than at any billion over the next 10 years, higher than at any time billion over the next 10 years, higher than at any time since billion over the next 10 years, higher than at any time since the higher than at any time since the DHBs higher than at any time since the DHBs were higher than at any time since the DHBs were established higher than at any time since the DHBs were established and, higher than at any time since the DHBs were established and, Mr DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, is DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, is a DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, is a legacy DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, is a legacy of DHBs were established and, Mr Speaker this, is a legacy of a Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure to Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure to budget Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure to budget for Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure to budget for future Speaker this, is a legacy of a failure to budget for future needs failure to budget for future needs during failure to budget for future needs during nine failure to budget for future needs during nine long failure to budget for future needs during nine long years failure to budget for future needs during nine long years of failure to budget for future needs during nine long years of neglect failure to budget for future needs during nine long years of neglect of during nine long years of neglect of the during nine long years of neglect of the health during nine long years of neglect of the health system. during nine long years of neglect of the health system. Yes during nine long years of neglect of the health system. Yes No. during nine long years of neglect of the health system. Yes No. 8. during nine long years of neglect of the health system. Yes No. 8. -- the health system. Yes No. 8. -- the health system. Yes No. 8. -- the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. 8. the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. 8. I the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. 8. I ask the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. 8. I ask this the health system. Yes No. 8. -- question, No. 8. I ask this question question, No. 8. I ask this question on question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf of question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf of Andhra question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf of Andhra Pradesh question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and question, No. 8. I ask this question on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as a on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as a -- on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as a -- Priyanca on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, on behalf of Andhra Pradesh and she as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is a as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is a bit as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is a bit crook. as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is a bit crook. I as a -- Priyanca Radhakrishnan, and I think she is a bit crook. I think I think she is a bit crook. I think the I think she is a bit crook. I think the member I think she is a bit crook. I think the member can I think she is a bit crook. I think the member can leave I think she is a bit crook. I think the member can leave his the member can leave his Wairarapa rabbits the member can leave his Wairarapa I the member can leave his Wairarapa rabbits at home. 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This This afternoon This afternoon parliament This afternoon parliament will This afternoon parliament will debate This afternoon parliament will debate the This afternoon parliament will debate the first This afternoon parliament will debate the first reading This afternoon parliament will debate the first reading of This afternoon parliament will debate the first reading of the debate the first reading of the debate the first reading of the debate the first reading of the Overseas Investment debate the first reading of the Overseas Investment Amendment Overseas Investment Amendment Bill. Overseas Investment Amendment Overseas Investment Amendment Bill. This bill Overseas Investment Amendment Bill. This bill correctlock Overseas Investment Amendment Bill. This bill correctlock nices Overseas Investment Amendment Bill. This bill correctlock nices and This bill correctlock nices and This bill correctlock nices and This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that it This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that it is This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that it is a This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that it is a privilege This bill correctlock nices and reaffirmed that it is a privilege to reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home in reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home in New reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home in New Zealand. reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home in New Zealand. Only reaffirmed that it is a privilege to own a home in New Zealand. Only New own a home in New Zealand. Only New Zealand own a home in New Zealand. Only New Zealand and own a home in New Zealand. Only New Zealand and Australian own a home in New Zealand. Only New Zealand and Australian citizens own a home in New Zealand. Only New Zealand and Australian citizens and Zealand and Australian citizens and permanent Zealand and Australian citizens and permanent residents Zealand and Australian citizens and permanent residents who Zealand and Australian citizens and permanent residents who reside Zealand and Australian citizens and permanent residents who reside here, permanent residents who reside here, will permanent residents who reside here, will be permanent residents who reside here, will be able permanent residents who reside here, will be able to permanent residents who reside here, will be able to buy permanent residents who reside here, will be able to buy an permanent residents who reside here, will be able to buy an existing permanent residents who reside here, will be able to buy an existing home will be able to buy an existing home in will be able to buy an existing home in New will be able to buy an existing home in New Zealand will be able to buy an existing home in New Zealand without will be able to buy an existing home in New Zealand without going will be able to buy an existing home in New Zealand without going through in New Zealand without going through screening in New Zealand without going through screening by in New Zealand without going through screening by the in New Zealand without going through screening by the Overseas in New Zealand without going through screening by the Overseas Investment screening by the Overseas Investment Office. screening by the Overseas Investment Office. This screening by the Overseas Investment Office. This is screening by the Overseas Investment Office. This is another screening by the Overseas Investment Office. This is another example screening by the Overseas Investment Office. This is another example of Office. This is another example of an Office. This is another example of an act Office. This is another example of an act of Office. This is another example of an act of Government Office. This is another example of an act of Government delivering Office. This is another example of an act of Government delivering on an act of Government delivering on its an act of Government delivering on its promises an act of Government delivering on its promises and an act of Government delivering on its promises and working an act of Government delivering on its promises and working in an act of Government delivering on its promises and working in the its promises and working in the interests its promises and working in the interests of its promises and working in the interests of New its promises and working in the interests of New Zealanders. its promises and working in the interests of New Zealanders. What interests of New Zealanders. What are interests of New Zealanders. What are the interests of New Zealanders. What are the objectives interests of New Zealanders. What are the objectives behind interests of New Zealanders. What are the objectives behind the are the objectives behind the Government's are the objectives behind the Government's ban are the objectives behind the Government's ban on are the objectives behind the Government's ban on overseas are the objectives behind the Government's ban on overseas buyer Government's ban on overseas buyer of Government's ban on overseas buyer of New Government's ban on overseas buyer of New Zealand Government's ban on overseas buyer of New Zealand homes? Government's ban on overseas buyer of New Zealand homes? Neither of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, New of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, New Zealand of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, New Zealand First of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, New Zealand First nor of New Zealand homes? Neither Labour, New Zealand First nor the Labour, New Zealand First nor the Greens Labour, New Zealand First nor the Greens believe Labour, New Zealand First nor the Greens believe that Labour, New Zealand First nor the Greens believe that New Labour, New Zealand First nor the Greens believe that New Zealand Greens believe that New Zealand homes Greens believe that New Zealand homes are Greens believe that New Zealand homes are commodities Greens believe that New Zealand homes are commodities to Greens believe that New Zealand homes are commodities to be Greens believe that New Zealand homes are commodities to be traded homes are commodities to be traded on homes are commodities to be traded on international homes are commodities to be traded on international markets homes are commodities to be traded on international markets in. homes are commodities to be traded on international markets in. Is homes are commodities to be traded on international markets in. Is a on international markets in. Is a clear on international markets in. Is a clear difference on international markets in. Is a clear difference between on international markets in. Is a clear difference between this clear difference between this Government clear difference between this Government and clear difference between this Government and the clear difference between this Government and the past clear difference between this Government and the past Government. Government and the past Government. This Government and the past Government. This Government Government and the past Government. This Government continues Government and the past Government. This Government continues to Government and the past Government. This Government continues to welcome This Government continues to welcome foreign This Government continues to welcome foreign investment This Government continues to welcome foreign investment which This Government continues to welcome foreign investment which brings foreign investment which brings foreign investment which brings foreign investment which brings benefits to foreign investment which brings benefits to New foreign investment which brings benefits to New Zealand, foreign investment which brings benefits to New Zealand, including benefits to New Zealand, including our benefits to New Zealand, including our businesses benefits to New Zealand, including our businesses and benefits to New Zealand, including our businesses and communities. benefits to New Zealand, including our businesses and communities. We our businesses and communities. We particularly our businesses and communities. We particularly want our businesses and communities. We particularly want to our businesses and communities. We particularly want to encourage particularly want to encourage foreign particularly want to encourage foreign investment particularly want to encourage foreign investment where particularly want to encourage foreign investment where it particularly want to encourage foreign investment where it adds particularly want to encourage foreign investment where it adds to foreign investment where it adds to our foreign investment where it adds to our economy. foreign investment where it adds to our economy. Investment foreign investment where it adds to our economy. Investment in foreign investment where it adds to our economy. Investment in existing our economy. Investment in existing homes our economy. Investment in existing homes by our economy. Investment in existing homes by those our economy. Investment in existing homes by those who our economy. Investment in existing homes by those who have our economy. Investment in existing homes by those who have no our economy. Investment in existing homes by those who have no right our economy. Investment in existing homes by those who have no right to homes by those who have no right to reside homes by those who have no right to reside here homes by those who have no right to reside here and homes by those who have no right to reside here and no homes by those who have no right to reside here and no intention homes by those who have no right to reside here and no intention to homes by those who have no right to reside here and no intention to live reside here and no intention to live here, reside here and no intention to live here, does reside here and no intention to live here, does not reside here and no intention to live here, does not achieve reside here and no intention to live here, does not achieve that here, does not achieve that objective. here, does not achieve that objective. How here, does not achieve that objective. How is here, does not achieve that objective. How is the here, does not achieve that objective. How is the ban here, does not achieve that objective. How is the ban on objective. How is the ban on overseas objective. How is the ban on overseas buyers objective. How is the ban on overseas buyers compatible objective. How is the ban on overseas buyers compatible with objective. How is the ban on overseas buyers compatible with New overseas buyers compatible with New Zealand's overseas buyers compatible with New Zealand's Free overseas buyers compatible with New Zealand's Free Trade overseas buyers compatible with New Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? overseas buyers compatible with New Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is compatible Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is compatible with Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is compatible with almost Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is compatible with almost all Zealand's Free Trade Agreements? The ban is compatible with almost all of ban is compatible with almost all of our ban is compatible with almost all of our existing ban is compatible with almost all of our existing trade ban is compatible with almost all of our existing trade arrangements ban is compatible with almost all of our existing trade arrangements but our existing trade arrangements but has our existing trade arrangements but has to our existing trade arrangements but has to be our existing trade arrangements but has to be in our existing trade arrangements but has to be in law our existing trade arrangements but has to be in law before our existing trade arrangements but has to be in law before CPTPP our existing trade arrangements but has to be in law before CPTPP comes has to be in law before CPTPP comes into has to be in law before CPTPP comes our has to be in law before CPTPP comes into effect. The has to be in law before CPTPP comes into effect. The past has to be in law before CPTPP comes into effect. The past Government into effect. The past Government said into effect. The past Government said it into effect. The past Government said it was into effect. The past Government said it was impossible into effect. The past Government said it was impossible to into effect. The past Government said it was impossible to ban said it was impossible to ban overseas said it was impossible to ban overseas buyers said it was impossible to ban overseas buyers but said it was impossible to ban overseas buyers but we're said it was impossible to ban overseas buyers but we're doing said it was impossible to ban overseas buyers but we're doing it. overseas buyers but we're doing it. They overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said we overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said we had overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said we had to overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said we had to choose overseas buyers but we're doing it. They said we had to choose between They said we had to choose between trade They said we had to choose between trade agreements They said we had to choose between trade agreements and They said we had to choose between trade agreements and controlling They said we had to choose between trade agreements and controlling our trade agreements and controlling our housing trade agreements and controlling our housing market trade agreements and controlling our housing market and trade agreements and controlling our housing market and we've trade agreements and controlling our housing market and we've shown trade agreements and controlling our housing market and we've shown that housing market and we've shown that housing market and we've shown that housing market and we've shown that was wrong. housing market and we've shown that was wrong. They housing market and we've shown that was wrong. They told housing market and we've shown that was wrong. They told New housing market and we've shown that was wrong. They told New Zealanders was wrong. They told New Zealanders before was wrong. They told New Zealanders before the was wrong. They told New Zealanders before the election, was wrong. They told New Zealanders before the election, trying was wrong. They told New Zealanders before the election, trying to was wrong. They told New Zealanders before the election, trying to wedge before the election, trying to wedge us before the election, trying to wedge us between before the election, trying to wedge us between our before the election, trying to wedge us between our belief before the election, trying to wedge us between our belief in before the election, trying to wedge us between our belief in open us between our belief in open trading us between our belief in open trading arrangements us between our belief in open trading arrangements and us between our belief in open trading arrangements and our us between our belief in open trading arrangements and our desire trading arrangements and our desire to trading arrangements and our desire to keep trading arrangements and our desire to keep New trading arrangements and our desire to keep New Zealand trading arrangements and our desire to keep New Zealand homes trading arrangements and our desire to keep New Zealand homes in trading arrangements and our desire to keep New Zealand homes in a trading arrangements and our desire to keep New Zealand homes in a New to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand market. to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand market. We've to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand market. We've shown to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand market. We've shown them to keep New Zealand homes in a New Zealand market. We've shown them to Zealand market. We've shown them to be Zealand market. We've shown them to be wrong Zealand market. We've shown them to be wrong and Zealand market. We've shown them to be wrong and they Zealand market. We've shown them to be wrong and they were Zealand market. We've shown them to be wrong and they were either be wrong and they were either incompetent be wrong and they were either incompetent or be wrong and they were either incompetent or disingenuous. incompetent or disingenuous. Probably incompetent or disingenuous. Probably both. incompetent or disingenuous. Probably both. Yes incompetent or disingenuous. Probably both. Yes No. incompetent or disingenuous. Probably both. Yes No. 9. 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Has he read the report of the interparliamentary report of the interparliamentary union report of the interparliamentary union on report of the interparliamentary union on the report of the interparliamentary union on the impact report of the interparliamentary union on the impact of report of the interparliamentary union on the impact of such union on the impact of such legislation union on the impact of such legislation that union on the impact of such legislation that concludes union on the impact of such legislation that concludes that union on the impact of such legislation that concludes that MPs legislation that concludes that MPs having legislation that concludes that MPs having a legislation that concludes that MPs having a free legislation that concludes that MPs having a free parliamentary legislation that concludes that MPs having a free parliamentary mandate having a free parliamentary mandate is having a free parliamentary mandate is an having a free parliamentary mandate is an essential having a free parliamentary mandate is an essential cornerstone having a free parliamentary mandate is an essential cornerstone of is an essential cornerstone of democracy is an essential cornerstone of democracy and is an essential cornerstone of democracy and views is an essential cornerstone of democracy and views laws is an essential cornerstone of democracy and views laws like is an essential cornerstone of democracy and views laws like the democracy and views laws like the one democracy and views laws like the one he democracy and views laws like the one he is democracy and views laws like the one he is proposing democracy and views laws like the one he is proposing as democracy and views laws like the one he is proposing as both one he is proposing as both unacceptable one he is proposing as both unacceptable political one he is proposing as both unacceptable political party unacceptable political party unacceptable political party unacceptable political party dictatorship and unacceptable political party dictatorship and a unacceptable political party dictatorship and a breach unacceptable political party dictatorship and a breach of dictatorship and a breach of fundamental dictatorship and a breach of fundamental human dictatorship and a breach of fundamental human rights? dictatorship and a breach of fundamental human rights? I dictatorship and a breach of fundamental human rights? I reject fundamental human rights? I reject those fundamental human rights? I reject those assertions. fundamental human rights? I reject those assertions. The fundamental human rights? I reject those assertions. The fundamental those assertions. The fundamental principle those assertions. The fundamental principle of those assertions. The fundamental principle of our those assertions. The fundamental principle of our electoral those assertions. The fundamental principle of our electoral system those assertions. The fundamental principle of our electoral system is principle of our electoral system is proportionality principle of our electoral system is proportionality of principle of our electoral system is proportionality of parties principle of our electoral system is proportionality of parties in proportionality of parties in proportionality of parties in proportionality of parties in parliament. 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Does she agree with the Minister for Rural Communities, the Minister for Rural Communities, the Minister for Rural Communities, the Minister for Rural Communities, Damien O'Connor the Minister for Rural Communities, Damien O'Connor who the Minister for Rural Communities, Damien O'Connor who said the Minister for Rural Communities, Damien O'Connor who said regarding Damien O'Connor who said regarding Damien O'Connor who said regarding Damien O'Connor who said regarding mining on Damien O'Connor who said regarding mining on conservation Damien O'Connor who said regarding mining on conservation land, mining on conservation land, "Current mining on conservation land, "Current mines mining on conservation land, "Current mines would mining on conservation land, "Current mines would not mining on conservation land, "Current mines would not be mining on conservation land, "Current mines would not be closed "Current mines would not be closed down"? "Current mines would not be closed down"? 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