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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Dairy Industry Restructuring Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill (Mo Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill (Mo 2) Dairy Industry Restructuring Amendment Bill (Mo 2) - Amendment Bill (Mo 2) - Introduction. Introduction. Those Introduction. Those bills Introduction. Those bills are Introduction. Those bills are set Introduction. Those bills are set down Introduction. Those bills are set down for Introduction. Those bills are set down for first Those bills are set down for first reading. reading. The reading. The House reading. The House comes reading. The House comes to reading. The House comes to Oral reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all of Minister: Does she stand by all of her Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's policies? Yes. Yes. Does Yes. Does she Yes. Does she stand Yes. Does she stand by Yes. Does she stand by her Yes. Does she stand by her statement Yes. Does she stand by her statement on Yes. Does she stand by her statement on behalf Yes. Does she stand by her statement on behalf of Yes. Does she stand by her statement on behalf of the Yes. Does she stand by her statement on behalf of the Government Yes. Does she stand by her statement on behalf of the Government that on behalf of the Government that "children on behalf of the Government that "children are on behalf of the Government that "children are at on behalf of the Government that "children are at the on behalf of the Government that "children are at the heart on behalf of the Government that "children are at the heart of "children are at the heart of everything "children are at the heart of everything we "children are at the heart of everything we do"? "children are at the heart of everything we do"? Mr "children are at the heart of everything we do"? Mr Speaker, "children are at the heart of everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can she everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can she explain everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can she explain then everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can she explain then how everything we do"? Mr Speaker, yes. Can she explain then how her Can she explain then how her Government's Can she explain then how her Government's policy Can she explain then how her Government's policy on Can she explain then how her Government's policy on partnership Government's policy on partnership schools Government's policy on partnership schools will Government's policy on partnership schools will benefit Government's policy on partnership schools will benefit the Government's policy on partnership schools will benefit the children Government's policy on partnership schools will benefit the children in schools will benefit the children in schools will benefit the children in schools will benefit the children in those schools? schools will benefit the children in those schools? Yes, schools will benefit the children in those schools? Yes, Mr schools will benefit the children in those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, schools will benefit the children in those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I can those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I can explain those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I can explain that. those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I can explain that. Every those schools? Yes, Mr Speaker, I can explain that. Every child can explain that. Every child deserves can explain that. Every child deserves to can explain that. Every child deserves to be can explain that. Every child deserves to be in can explain that. Every child deserves to be in a can explain that. Every child deserves to be in a school can explain that. Every child deserves to be in a school where deserves to be in a school where deserves to be in a school where deserves to be in a school where they have deserves to be in a school where they have registered deserves to be in a school where they have registered and deserves to be in a school where they have registered and qualified they have registered and qualified teachers, they have registered and qualified teachers, where they have registered and qualified teachers, where they they have registered and qualified teachers, where they have they have registered and qualified teachers, where they have the teachers, where they have the ability teachers, where they have the ability to teachers, where they have the ability to be teachers, where they have the ability to be taught teachers, where they have the ability to be taught our teachers, where they have the ability to be taught our fantastic ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. What ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. What we're ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. What we're keen ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. What we're keen to ability to be taught our fantastic curriculum. What we're keen to do curriculum. What we're keen to do and curriculum. What we're keen to do and what curriculum. What we're keen to do and what the curriculum. What we're keen to do and what the Minister curriculum. What we're keen to do and what the Minister of curriculum. 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There become schools of special character. There are become schools of special character. There are options become schools of special character. There are options for become schools of special character. There are options for them become schools of special character. There are options for them to become schools of special character. There are options for them to keep There are options for them to keep their There are options for them to keep their doors There are options for them to keep their doors open. There are options for them to keep their doors open. We're There are options for them to keep their doors open. We're keen There are options for them to keep their doors open. We're keen to There are options for them to keep their doors open. We're keen to work their doors open. We're keen to work with their doors open. We're keen to work with them their doors open. We're keen to work with them on their doors open. We're keen to work with them on finding their doors open. We're keen to work with them on finding that their doors open. We're keen to work with them on finding that path with them on finding that path forward. with them on finding that path forward. Has with them on finding that path forward. Has she with them on finding that path forward. Has she seen with them on finding that path forward. Has she seen a with them on finding that path forward. Has she seen a statement with them on finding that path forward. Has she seen a statement by forward. Has she seen a statement by a forward. Has she seen a statement by a student forward. Has she seen a statement by a student from forward. Has she seen a statement by a student from one forward. Has she seen a statement by a student from one of forward. Has she seen a statement by a student from one of the forward. Has she seen a statement by a student from one of the schools, a student from one of the schools, a student from one of the schools, a student from one of the schools, "Before attending a student from one of the schools, "Before attending this a student from one of the schools, "Before attending this school a student from one of the schools, "Before attending this school I "Before attending this school I barely "Before attending this school I barely did "Before attending this school I barely did anything "Before attending this school I barely did anything with "Before attending this school I barely did anything with my "Before attending this school I barely did anything with my life. "Before attending this school I barely did anything with my life. I barely did anything with my life. I barely did anything with my life. I barely did anything with my life. I hated school barely did anything with my life. I hated school and barely did anything with my life. I hated school and was barely did anything with my life. I hated school and was never barely did anything with my life. 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I have a chance on changing my life for the better"? I I have a chance on changing my life for the better"? I haven't I have a chance on changing my life for the better"? I haven't seen I have a chance on changing my life for the better"? I haven't seen that for the better"? I haven't seen that specific for the better"? I haven't seen that specific quote for the better"? I haven't seen that specific quote but for the better"? I haven't seen that specific quote but I for the better"? I haven't seen that specific quote but I am for the better"? I haven't seen that specific quote but I am delighted for the better"? 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We want those children though to in their education. We want those children though to make in their education. We want those children though to make sure in their education. We want those children though to make sure that children though to make sure that children though to make sure that children though to make sure that they are children though to make sure that they are being children though to make sure that they are being taught children though to make sure that they are being taught in children though to make sure that they are being taught in schools they are being taught in schools where they are being taught in schools where they they are being taught in schools where they have they are being taught in schools where they have registered they are being taught in schools where they have registered and where they have registered and qualified where they have registered and qualified teachers. where they have registered and qualified teachers. 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Will the PM visit at least one partnership school and talk to them. Will the PM visit at least one partnership school and talk to the partnership school and talk to the students partnership school and talk to the students about partnership school and talk to the students about their partnership school and talk to the students about their experience students about their experience and students about their experience students about their experience and their views students about their experience and their views on students about their experience and their views on whether students about their experience and their views on whether their students about their experience and their views on whether their school their views on whether their school should their views on whether their school should be their views on whether their school should be closed? their views on whether their school should be closed? Mr their views on whether their school should be closed? Mr Speaker, their views on whether their school should be closed? Mr Speaker, one should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will say should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will say is should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will say is that should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will say is that it should be closed? Mr Speaker, one thing I will say is that it is should be closed? 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That special treatment to that they be treated equally. That means treated equally. That means curriculum, treated equally. That means curriculum, that treated equally. That means curriculum, that means treated equally. That means curriculum, that means having curriculum, that means having qualified curriculum, that means having qualified teachers curriculum, that means having qualified teachers and curriculum, that means having qualified teachers and it curriculum, that means having qualified teachers and it means curriculum, that means having qualified teachers and it means the qualified teachers and it means the same qualified teachers and it means the same level qualified teachers and it means the same level of qualified teachers and it means the same level of funding. qualified teachers and it means the same level of funding. There qualified teachers and it means the same level of funding. There is qualified teachers and it means the same level of funding. 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If the PM's policy is that everyone be treated policy is that everyone be treated equally, policy is that everyone be treated equally, what policy is that everyone be treated equally, what does policy is that everyone be treated equally, what does she policy is that everyone be treated equally, what does she have policy is that everyone be treated equally, what does she have to policy is that everyone be treated equally, what does she have to say equally, what does she have to say to equally, what does she have to say to those equally, what does she have to say to those students equally, what does she have to say to those students who equally, what does she have to say to those students who believe equally, what does she have to say to those students who believe that to those students who believe that by to those students who believe that by going to those students who believe that by going to to those students who believe that by going to one to those students who believe that by going to one of to those students who believe that by going to one of these to those students who believe that by going to one of these schools by going to one of these schools they by going to one of these schools they are by going to one of these schools they are actually by going to one of these schools they are actually doing by going to one of these schools they are actually doing a by going to one of these schools they are actually doing a lot by going to one of these schools they are actually doing a lot better they are actually doing a lot better than they are actually doing a lot better than at they are actually doing a lot better than at the they are actually doing a lot better than at the school they are actually doing a lot better than at the school where they are actually doing a lot better than at the school where they they are actually doing a lot better than at the school where they were than at the school where they were than at the school where they were than at the school where they were treated equally. than at the school where they were treated equally. 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Will the PM visit a partnership school and speak to the partnership school and speak to the students partnership school and speak to the students to partnership school and speak to the students to ascertain partnership school and speak to the students to ascertain their partnership school and speak to the students to ascertain their views students to ascertain their views about students to ascertain their views about their students to ascertain their views about their school? students to ascertain their views about their school? Again, students to ascertain their views about their school? Again, the about their school? Again, the implication about their school? Again, the implication that about their school? Again, the implication that I've about their school? Again, the implication that I've never about their school? Again, the implication that I've never in about their school? 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Has the PM received any reports suggesting that the Maori reports suggesting that the Maori students reports suggesting that the Maori students of reports suggesting that the Maori students of this reports suggesting that the Maori students of this country reports suggesting that the Maori students of this country should reports suggesting that the Maori students of this country should not students of this country should not be students of this country should not be the students of this country should not be the victims students of this country should not be the victims of students of this country should not be the victims of blind students of this country should not be the victims of blind ideology be the victims of blind ideology when be the victims of blind ideology when it be the victims of blind ideology when it comes be the victims of blind ideology when it comes to be the victims of blind ideology when it comes to privatised when it comes to privatised when it comes to privatised when it comes to privatised education? 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Will the PM guarantee that all partnership guarantee that all partnership schools guarantee that all partnership schools with guarantee that all partnership schools with contracts guarantee that all partnership schools with contracts will guarantee that all partnership schools with contracts will remain schools with contracts will remain open schools with contracts will remain schools schools with contracts will remain open if they schools with contracts will remain open if they need schools with contracts will remain open if they need the schools with contracts will remain open if they need the three schools with contracts will remain open if they need the three criteria open if they need the three criteria that open if they need the three criteria that she open if they need the three criteria that she just open if they need the three criteria that she just mentioned open if they need the three criteria that she just mentioned - open if they need the three criteria that she just mentioned - registered that she just mentioned - registered teachers that she just mentioned - registered teachers - that she just mentioned - registered teachers - following that she just mentioned - registered teachers - following the that she just mentioned - registered teachers - following the curriculum teachers - following the curriculum teachers - following the curriculum teachers - following the curriculum and comparable teachers - following the curriculum and comparable funding? teachers - following the curriculum and comparable funding? 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This is yet another of our first 100-day promises fulfilled Order! This is yet another of our first 100-day promises fulfilled by first 100-day promises fulfilled by the first 100-day promises fulfilled by the Labour-led first 100-day promises fulfilled by the Labour-led Government. first 100-day promises fulfilled by the Labour-led Government. The first 100-day promises fulfilled by the Labour-led Government. The last the Labour-led Government. The last Government the Labour-led Government. The last Government spelt the Labour-led Government. The last Government spelt millions the Labour-led Government. The last Government spelt millions and the Labour-led Government. 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That is no solution to the housing crisis. providers. That is no solution to the housing crisis. This providers. That is no solution to the housing crisis. This Government the housing crisis. This Government is the housing crisis. This Government is focused the housing crisis. This Government is focused on the housing crisis. This Government is focused on building the housing crisis. This Government is focused on building more the housing crisis. This Government is focused on building more and the housing crisis. This Government is focused on building more and more is focused on building more and more houses is focused on building more and more houses through is focused on building more and more houses through KiwiBuild, is focused on building more and more houses through KiwiBuild, state houses through KiwiBuild, state housing houses through KiwiBuild, state housing and houses through KiwiBuild, state housing and by houses through KiwiBuild, state housing and by backing houses through KiwiBuild, state housing and by backing councils houses through KiwiBuild, state housing and by backing councils iwi housing and by backing councils iwi and housing and by backing councils iwi and community housing and by backing councils iwi and community housing housing and by backing councils iwi and community housing providers. and community housing providers. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Why <INTERRUPTION> Why has <INTERRUPTION> Why has the <INTERRUPTION> Why has the Government <INTERRUPTION> Why has the Government made <INTERRUPTION> Why has the Government made this Why has the Government made this announcement Why has the Government made this announcement now? Why has the Government made this announcement now? We Why has the Government made this announcement now? We felt Why has the Government made this announcement now? We felt it Why has the Government made this announcement now? We felt it was announcement now? We felt it was important announcement now? We felt it was <INTERRUPTION> announcement now? We felt it was important to get announcement now? We felt it was important to get this announcement now? We felt it was important to get this piece announcement now? We felt it was important to get this piece of announcement now? 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