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Mr between 1984 and 2011. Mr Anderton between 1984 and 2011. Mr Anderton was between 1984 and 2011. Mr Anderton was Deputy between 1984 and 2011. Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Minister Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Minister from Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Minister from 1999 Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Minister from 1999 to Mr Anderton was Deputy Prime Minister from 1999 to 2002. Minister from 1999 to 2002. During Minister from 1999 to 2002. During his Minister from 1999 to 2002. During his membership Minister from 1999 to 2002. During his membership of Minister from 1999 to 2002. During his membership of this Minister from 1999 to 2002. During his membership of this House During his membership of this House he During his membership of this House he held During his membership of this House he held a During his membership of this House he held a number During his membership of this House he held a number of During his membership of this House he held a number of ministerial he held a number of ministerial positions, he held a number of ministerial positions, including he held a number of ministerial positions, including Minister positions, including Minister for positions, including Minister for Economic positions, including Minister for Economic Development, for Economic Development, Minister for Economic Development, Minister for for Economic Development, Minister for Industry Minister for Industry and Minister for Industry and Regional Minister for Industry and Regional Development, and Regional Development, Minister and Regional Development, Minister of and Regional Development, Minister of Forestry, Minister of Forestry, and Minister of Forestry, and Minister Minister of Forestry, and Minister of Minister of Forestry, and Minister of Agriculture. and Minister of Agriculture. I and Minister of Agriculture. I also and Minister of Agriculture. I also regret and Minister of Agriculture. I also regret to and Minister of Agriculture. I also regret to inform and Minister of Agriculture. I also regret to inform the and Minister of Agriculture. I also regret to inform the House I also regret to inform the House of I also regret to inform the House of the I also regret to inform the House of the death I also regret to inform the House of the death on I also regret to inform the House of the death on 4 I also regret to inform the House of the death on 4 January I also regret to inform the House of the death on 4 January 2018 of the death on 4 January 2018 of of the death on 4 January 2018 of Gail of the death on 4 January 2018 of Gail Helen of the death on 4 January 2018 of Gail Helen McIntosh, of Gail Helen McIntosh, who of Gail Helen McIntosh, who represented of Gail Helen McIntosh, who represented the of Gail Helen McIntosh, who represented the electorate who represented the electorate of who represented the electorate of Lyttelton who represented the electorate of Lyttelton for who represented the electorate of Lyttelton for the who represented the electorate of Lyttelton for the National who represented the electorate of Lyttelton for the National Party of Lyttelton for the National Party from of Lyttelton for the National Party from 1990 of Lyttelton for the National Party from 1990 to of Lyttelton for the National Party from 1990 to 1993. from 1990 to 1993. I from 1990 to 1993. I desire, from 1990 to 1993. I desire, on from 1990 to 1993. I desire, on behalf from 1990 to 1993. I desire, on behalf of from 1990 to 1993. I desire, on behalf of this from 1990 to 1993. I desire, on behalf of this House, I desire, on behalf of this House, to I desire, on behalf of this House, to express I desire, on behalf of this House, to express our I desire, on behalf of this House, to express our sense I desire, on behalf of this House, to express our sense of I desire, on behalf of this House, to express our sense of the I desire, on behalf of this House, to express our sense of the loss to express our sense of the loss we to express our sense of the loss we have to express our sense of the loss we have sustained to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and to express our sense of the loss we have sustained and our we have sustained and our sympathy we have sustained and our sympathy with we have sustained and our sympathy with the we have sustained and our sympathy with the relatives sympathy with the relatives of sympathy with the relatives of the sympathy with the relatives of the late sympathy with the relatives of the late former sympathy with the relatives of the late former members. of the late former members. I of the late former members. I ask of the late former members. I ask members of the late former members. I ask members to of the late former members. I ask members to stand of the late former members. I ask members to stand with of the late former members. I ask members to stand with me I ask members to stand with me and I ask members to stand with me and observe I ask members to stand with me and observe a I ask members to stand with me and observe a period I ask members to stand with me and observe a period of I ask members to stand with me and observe a period of silence and observe a period of silence as and observe a period of silence as a and observe a period of silence as a mark and observe a period of silence as a mark of and observe a period of silence as a mark of respect as a mark of respect in as a mark of respect in their as a mark of respect in their memory. <SILENCE> <SILENCE> Thank <SILENCE> Thank you. <SILENCE> Thank you. The <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move a <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move a motion <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move a motion on <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move a motion on the <SILENCE> Thank you. The PM. I seek leave to move a motion on the notice leave to move a motion on the notice of leave to move a motion on the notice of the leave to move a motion on the notice of the death leave to move a motion on the notice of the death of leave to move a motion on the notice of the death of the leave to move a motion on the notice of the death of the Hon leave to move a motion on the notice of the death of the Hon James of the death of the Hon James Patrick of the death of the Hon James Patrick Anderton. of the death of the Hon James Patrick Anderton. Any of the death of the Hon James Patrick Anderton. Any objection of the death of the Hon James Patrick Anderton. Any objection to Patrick Anderton. Any objection to that Patrick Anderton. Any objection to that course Patrick Anderton. Any objection to that course of Patrick Anderton. Any objection to that course of action Patrick Anderton. Any objection to that course of action being that course of action being followed? that course of action being followed? There that course of action being followed? There appears that course of action being followed? There appears to that course of action being followed? There appears to be that course of action being followed? There appears to be none. followed? There appears to be none. On followed? There appears to be none. On behalf followed? There appears to be none. On behalf of followed? There appears to be none. On behalf of all followed? There appears to be none. On behalf of all New followed? There appears to be none. On behalf of all New Zealanders, followed? There appears to be none. On behalf of all New Zealanders, I On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to pay On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to pay tribute On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to pay tribute to On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to pay tribute to a On behalf of all New Zealanders, I rise today to pay tribute to a man rise today to pay tribute to a man of rise today to pay tribute to a man of enormous rise today to pay tribute to a man of enormous character, rise today to pay tribute to a man of enormous character, compassion of enormous character, compassion and of enormous character, compassion On of enormous character, compassion and integrity. There of enormous character, compassion and integrity. There have of enormous character, compassion and integrity. There have been of enormous character, compassion and integrity. There have been very and integrity. There have been very few and integrity. There have been very few people and integrity. There have been very few people like and integrity. There have been very few people like Jim and integrity. There have been very few people like Jim Anderton and integrity. There have been very few people like Jim Anderton in and integrity. There have been very few people like Jim Anderton in New few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand politics. few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand politics. Jim few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand politics. Jim spent few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand politics. Jim spent his few people like Jim Anderton in New Zealand politics. Jim spent his live Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public service Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public service in Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public service in the Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public service in the best Zealand politics. Jim spent his live in public service in the best sense in public service in the best sense of in public service in the best sense of the in public service in the best sense of the word. in public service in the best sense of the word. He in public service in the best sense of the word. He was in public service in the best sense of the word. He was motivated in public service in the best sense of the word. He was motivated by in public service in the best sense of the word. He was motivated by his of the word. He was motivated by his profound of the word. He was motivated by his profound sense of the word. He was motivated by his profound sense of of the word. He was motivated by his profound sense of compassion of the word. He was motivated by his profound sense of compassion for profound sense of compassion for people, profound sense of compassion for profound profound sense of compassion for people, from his profound sense of compassion for people, from his belief profound sense of compassion for people, from his belief that profound sense of compassion for people, from his belief that the people, from his belief that the dignity people, from his belief that the dignity of people, from his belief that the dignity of people people, from his belief that the dignity of people mattered people, from his belief that the dignity of people mattered the people, from his belief that the dignity of people mattered the most. dignity of people mattered the most. Jim dignity of people mattered the most. Jim also dignity of people mattered the most. Jim also married dignity of people mattered the most. Jim also married a dignity of people mattered the most. 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When I attended Jim's funeral in attended Jim's funeral in Christchurch attended Jim's funeral in Christchurch we attended Jim's funeral in Christchurch we heard attended Jim's funeral in Christchurch we heard from attended Jim's funeral in Christchurch we heard from his Christchurch we heard from his family Christchurch we heard from his family and Christchurch we heard from his family and those Christchurch we heard from his family and those closest Christchurch we heard from his family and those closest that Christchurch we heard from his family and those closest that for family and those closest that for him family and those closest that for him words family and those closest that for him words were family and those closest that for him words were never family and those closest that for him words were never enough. family and those closest that for him words were never enough. He family and those closest that for him words were never enough. He knew him words were never enough. 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Because of this, he leaves people's lives was what mattered. Because of this, he leaves a people's lives was what mattered. Because of this, he leaves a legacy Because of this, he leaves a legacy of Because of this, he leaves a legacy of enduring Because of this, he leaves a legacy of enduring accomplishments. Because of this, he leaves a legacy of enduring accomplishments. From of enduring accomplishments. From his of enduring accomplishments. From his years of enduring accomplishments. From his years as of enduring accomplishments. From his years as a of enduring accomplishments. From his years as a City of enduring accomplishments. From his years as a City Councillor, of enduring accomplishments. From his years as a City Councillor, to his years as a City Councillor, to being his years as a City Councillor, to being a his years as a City Councillor, to being a reforming his years as a City Councillor, to being a reforming president his years as a City Councillor, to being a reforming president of his years as a City Councillor, to being a reforming president of the being a reforming president of the Labour being a reforming president of the Labour Party, being a reforming president of the Labour Party, who's being a reforming president of the Labour Party, who's organisational Labour Party, who's organisational legacy Labour Party, who's organisational his Labour Party, who's organisational legacy endures today, Labour Party, who's organisational legacy endures today, to Labour Party, who's organisational legacy endures today, to founding legacy endures today, to founding two legacy endures today, to founding two political legacy endures today, to founding two political parties legacy endures today, to founding two political parties through legacy endures today, to founding two political parties through to legacy endures today, to founding two political parties through to his two political parties through to his service two political parties through to his service as two political parties through to his service as a two political parties through to his service as a Cabinet two political parties through to his service as a Cabinet Minister, two political parties through to his service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man who service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man who got service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man who got things service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man who got things done. service as a Cabinet Minister, Jim was a man who got things done. My was a man who got things done. My colleague, was a man who got things done. My colleague, Andrew was a man who got things done. My colleague, Andrew Little, was a man who got things done. My colleague, Andrew Little, described colleague, Andrew Little, described him colleague, Andrew Little, described him as colleague, Andrew Little, described him as always colleague, Andrew Little, described him as always deeply colleague, Andrew Little, described him as always deeply principled, him as always deeply principled, thoughtful him as always deeply principled, thoughtful and him as always deeply principled, thoughtful and determined him as always deeply principled, thoughtful and determined to him as always deeply principled, thoughtful and determined to do him as always deeply principled, thoughtful and determined to do the thoughtful and determined to do the right thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He was thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He was a thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He was a man thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He was a man before thoughtful and determined to do the right thing. He was a man before his right thing. He was a man before his time. right thing. He was a man before his time. A right thing. He was a man before his time. A true right thing. He was a man before his time. A true progressive. right thing. He was a man before his time. A true progressive. He right thing. He was a man before his time. A true progressive. He was right thing. He was a man before his time. A true progressive. He was at time. A true progressive. He was at the time. A true progressive. He was at the forefront time. A true progressive. He was at the forefront of time. A true progressive. He was at the forefront of antinuclear time. A true progressive. He was at the forefront of antinuclear policy the forefront of antinuclear policy and the forefront of antinuclear policy and the the forefront of antinuclear policy and the anti-racism the forefront of antinuclear policy and the anti-racism movement the forefront of antinuclear policy and the anti-racism movement during and the anti-racism movement during the and the anti-racism movement during the spring and the anti-racism movement during the spring pock and the anti-racism movement during the spring pock Tour and the anti-racism movement during the spring pock Tour -- and the anti-racism movement during the spring pock Tour -- Springbok the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the '80s. the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the '80s. He the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the '80s. He will the spring pock Tour -- Springbok Tour in the '80s. He will be Tour in the '80s. He will be remembered Tour in the '80s. He will be remembered as Tour in the '80s. He will be remembered as a Tour in the '80s. He will be remembered as a statesman Tour in the '80s. He will be remembered as a statesman who remembered as a statesman who delivered remembered as a statesman who delivered a remembered as a statesman who delivered a number remembered as a statesman who delivered a number of remembered as a statesman who delivered a number of lasting delivered a number of lasting legacies. delivered a number of lasting delivered delivered a number of lasting legacies. We have delivered a number of lasting legacies. We have Jim delivered a number of lasting legacies. We have Jim to delivered a number of lasting legacies. We have Jim to thank delivered a number of lasting legacies. We have Jim to thank for legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He was legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He was the legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He was the person legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He was the person who legacies. We have Jim to thank for Kiwibank. He was the person who made Kiwibank. He was the person who made sure Kiwibank. He was the person who made sure Government Kiwibank. He was the person who made sure Government didn't Kiwibank. He was the person who made sure Government didn't ignore Kiwibank. He was the person who made sure Government didn't ignore the sure Government didn't ignore the regions, sure Government didn't ignore the regions, playing sure Government didn't ignore the regions, playing a sure Government didn't ignore the regions, playing a big sure Government didn't ignore the regions, playing a big part sure Government didn't ignore the regions, playing a big part in regions, playing a big part in ensuring regions, playing a big part in ensuring economic regions, playing a big part in ensuring economic development regions, playing a big part in ensuring economic development also ensuring economic development also happened ensuring economic development also happened outside ensuring economic development also happened outside of ensuring economic development also happened outside of our ensuring economic development also happened outside of our main happened outside of our main centres. happened outside of our main centres. That happened outside of our main centres. That reputation happened outside of our main centres. That reputation is happened outside of our main centres. That reputation is also happened outside of our main centres. That reputation is also why centres. That reputation is also why she centres. That reputation is also why happened centres. That reputation is also why she was such centres. That reputation is also why she was such a centres. That reputation is also why she was such a beloved centres. That reputation is also why she was such a beloved -- centres. That reputation is also why she was such a beloved -- he centres. That reputation is also why she was such a beloved -- he was she was such a beloved -- he was such she was such a beloved -- he was such a she was such a beloved -- he was such a beloved she was such a beloved -- he was such a beloved local she was such a beloved -- he was such a beloved local MP she was such a beloved -- he was such a beloved local MP to she was such a beloved -- he was such a beloved local MP to the such a beloved local MP to the people such a beloved local MP to the people of such a beloved local MP to the people of his such a beloved local MP to the people of his electorate such a beloved local MP to the people of his electorate who such a beloved local MP to the people of his electorate who he people of his electorate who he represented people of his electorate who he represented unfailingly people of his electorate who he represented unfailingly for people of his electorate who he represented unfailingly for 30 represented unfailingly for 30 years. represented unfailingly for 30 such represented unfailingly for 30 years. He will represented unfailingly for 30 years. He will be represented unfailingly for 30 years. He will be remember represented unfailingly for 30 years. He will be remember as years. He will be remember as someone years. He will be remember as someone who years. He will be remember as someone who stood years. He will be remember as someone who stood up years. He will be remember as someone who stood up for years. He will be remember as someone who stood up for the someone who stood up for the principles someone who stood up for the principles and someone who stood up for the principles and the someone who stood up for the principles and the people someone who stood up for the principles and the people he principles and the people he represented. principles and the people he represented. I principles and the people he represented. I want principles and the people he represented. I want to principles and the people he represented. 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I would like on behalf of the National Party to acknowledge of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his wife, of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his wife, and of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his wife, and the of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his wife, and the family of the National Party to acknowledge Carol, his wife, and the family and Carol, his wife, and the family and to Carol, his wife, and the family and to make Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the comment Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the comment that Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the comment that I Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the comment that I think Carol, his wife, and the family and to make the comment that I think the to make the comment that I think the tributes to make the comment that I think the tributes that to make the comment that I think the tributes that were to make the comment that I think the tributes that were paid to make the comment that I think the tributes that were paid to to make the comment that I think the tributes that were paid to him to make the comment that I think the tributes that were paid to him at tributes that were paid to him at his tributes that were paid to him at his funeral tributes that were paid to him at his funeral by tributes that were paid to him at his funeral by his tributes that were paid to him at his funeral by his family, tributes that were paid to him at his funeral by his family, despite his funeral by his family, despite everything his funeral by his family, despite everything else his funeral by his family, despite everything else he his funeral by his family, despite everything else he achieved his funeral by his family, despite everything else he achieved in his funeral by his family, despite everything else he achieved in life, everything else he achieved in life, were everything else he achieved in life, were perhaps everything else he achieved in life, were perhaps the everything else he achieved in life, were perhaps the greatest everything else he achieved in life, were perhaps the greatest mark everything else he achieved in life, were perhaps the greatest mark of were perhaps the greatest mark of the were perhaps the greatest mark of tributes were perhaps the greatest mark of the man he were perhaps the greatest mark of the man he was. were perhaps the greatest mark of the man he was. Hear, were perhaps the greatest mark of the man he was. Hear, hear. were perhaps the greatest mark of the man he was. Hear, hear. The the man he was. Hear, hear. The honourable the man he was. Hear, hear. The honourable member the man he was. Hear, hear. The honourable member Winston the man he was. Hear, hear. The honourable member Winston Peters. the man he was. Hear, hear. The honourable member Winston Peters. We honourable member Winston Peters. We wish honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to pay honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to pay our honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to pay our respects honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to pay our respects to honourable member Winston Peters. We wish to pay our respects to Gail wish to pay our respects to Gail Helen wish to pay our respects to Gail Helen McIntosh's wish to pay our respects to Gail Helen McIntosh's family wish to pay our respects to Gail Helen McIntosh's family and wish to pay our respects to Gail Helen McIntosh's family and on Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf of Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf of New Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf of New Zealand Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf of New Zealand First Helen McIntosh's family and on behalf of New Zealand First pay behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to the behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to the late behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to the late Jim behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to the late Jim Anderton behalf of New Zealand First pay tribute to the late Jim Anderton and tribute to the late Jim Anderton and acknowledge tribute to the late Jim Anderton and acknowledge his tribute to the late Jim Anderton and acknowledge his remarkable tribute to the late Jim Anderton and acknowledge his remarkable service acknowledge his remarkable service as acknowledge his remarkable service tribute acknowledge his remarkable service as a Parliamentarian acknowledge his remarkable service as a Parliamentarian and acknowledge his remarkable service as a Parliamentarian and his as a Parliamentarian and his commitment as a Parliamentarian and his commitment to as a Parliamentarian and his commitment to public as a Parliamentarian and his commitment to public life. as a Parliamentarian and his commitment to public life. Simply commitment to public life. Simply put commitment to public life. Simply put - commitment to public life. Simply put - Jim commitment to public life. Simply put - Jim Anderton commitment to public life. Simply put - Jim Anderton committed commitment to public life. 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Whatever Government and the restoration of the cathedral. Whatever you Government and the restoration of the cathedral. Whatever you thought the cathedral. Whatever you thought of the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his politics, the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his politics, Jim the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his politics, Jim Anderton the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his politics, Jim Anderton was the cathedral. Whatever you thought of his politics, Jim Anderton was a of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of principle of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of principle - of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of principle - that of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of principle - that isn't of his politics, Jim Anderton was a man of principle - that isn't common man of principle - that isn't common in man of principle - that isn't common in a man of principle - that isn't common in a modern man of principle - that isn't common in a modern politics man of principle - that isn't common in a modern politics in man of principle - that isn't common in a modern politics in the man of principle - that isn't common in a modern politics in the Western in a modern politics in the Western world. in a modern politics in the Western world. He in a modern politics in the Western world. He held in a modern politics in the Western world. He held true in a modern politics in the Western world. He held true to in a modern politics in the Western world. He held true to his world. He held true to his principles world. He held true to his principles from world. He held true to his principles from the world. He held true to his principles from the very world. He held true to his principles from the very beginning, principles from the very beginning, to principles from the very beginning, to the principles from the very beginning, to the very principles from the very beginning, to the very end. principles from the very beginning, to the very end. Along principles from the very beginning, to the very end. Along the principles from the very beginning, to the very end. Along the way principles from the very beginning, to the very end. Along the way he to the very end. Along the way he was to the very end. Along the way he was a to the very end. Along the way he was a fierce to the very end. Along the way he was a fierce critic to the very end. Along the way he was a fierce critic of to the very end. Along the way he was a fierce critic of the to the very end. Along the way he was a fierce critic of the ravages was a fierce critic of the ravages of was a fierce critic of the ravages of neo-liberal was a fierce critic of the ravages of neo-liberal agenda, was a fierce critic of the ravages of neo-liberal agenda, and was a fierce critic of the ravages of neo-liberal agenda, and a was a fierce critic of the ravages of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong advocate of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong advocate of of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong advocate of economic of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong advocate of economic development of neo-liberal agenda, and a strong advocate of economic development and advocate of economic development and governance advocate of economic development and governance involvement advocate of economic development and governance involvement and advocate of economic development and governance involvement and in governance involvement and in particular governance involvement and in particular regional governance involvement and in particular regional economic particular regional economic development. particular regional economic development. He particular regional economic development. He believed particular regional economic development. He believed in particular regional economic development. He believed in the development. He believed in the sovereignty development. He believed in the sovereignty of development. He believed in the sovereignty of his development. He believed in the sovereignty of his country development. He believed in the sovereignty of his country and development. He believed in the sovereignty of his country and we sovereignty of his country and we should sovereignty of his country and we should remain sovereignty of his country and we should remain grateful sovereignty of his country and we should remain grateful for sovereignty of his country and we should remain grateful for his sovereignty of his country and we should remain grateful for his role should remain grateful for his role in should remain grateful for his role in which should remain grateful for his role in which bank should remain grateful for his role in which bank and should remain grateful for his role in which bank and -- should remain grateful for his role in which bank and -- Kiwibank should remain grateful for his role in which bank and -- Kiwibank and in which bank and -- Kiwibank and the in which bank and -- Kiwibank and the superannuation in which bank and -- Kiwibank and the superannuation fund. in which bank and -- Kiwibank and the superannuation fund. 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He led an alliance of five political parties - alliance of five political parties - and alliance of five political parties - in alliance of five political parties - and that could alliance of five political parties - and that could not alliance of five political parties - and that could not from alliance of five political parties - and that could not from a alliance of five political parties - and that could not from a little and that could not from a little personal and that could not from a little personal experience and that could not from a little personal experience - and that could not from a little personal experience - have and that could not from a little personal experience - have been personal experience - have been easy. personal experience - have been easy. It's personal experience - have been easy. It's now personal experience - have been easy. It's now only personal experience - have been easy. It's now only indeed personal experience - have been easy. 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It's now only indeed we speak today at this time, bringing in the today at this time, bringing in the waka-jumping today at this time, bringing in the waka-jumping legislation today at this time, bringing in the waka-jumping legislation to today at this time, bringing in the waka-jumping legislation to its waka-jumping legislation to its first waka-jumping legislation to its first reading waka-jumping legislation to its first reading in waka-jumping legislation to its first reading in the waka-jumping legislation to its first reading in the House. waka-jumping legislation to its first reading in the House. New first reading in the House. New Zealand first reading in the House. New Zealand First first reading in the House. New Zealand First adds first reading in the House. New Zealand First adds it first reading in the House. New Zealand First adds it voice first reading in the House. New Zealand First adds it voice and first reading in the House. New Zealand First adds it voice and pays Zealand First adds it voice and pays respect Zealand First adds it voice and pays respect for Zealand First adds it voice and pays respect for Jim Zealand First adds it voice and pays respect for Jim Anderton's respect for Jim Anderton's contribution respect for Jim Anderton's contribution to respect for Jim Anderton's contribution to this respect for Jim Anderton's contribution to this House respect for Jim Anderton's contribution to this House and respect for Jim Anderton's contribution to this House and to contribution to this House and to the contribution to this House and to the people contribution to this House and to the people of contribution to this House and to the people of New contribution to this House and to the people of New Zealand contribution to this House and to the people of New Zealand and contribution to this House and to the people of New Zealand and we contribution to this House and to the people of New Zealand and we say the people of New Zealand and we say thank the people of New Zealand and we say thank you the people of New Zealand and we say thank you to the people of New Zealand and we say thank you to his the people of New Zealand and we say thank you to his wife the people of New Zealand and we say thank you to his wife and the people of New Zealand and we say thank you to his wife and his thank you to his wife and his family. family. <SPEAKS family. <SPEAKS TE family. <SPEAKS TE REO family. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> . 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It was this House, progressive politics and of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge sadness of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge sadness that of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge sadness that the of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge sadness that the Green of Aotearoa New Zealand. It was with huge sadness that the Green Party huge sadness that the Green Party learnt huge sadness that the Green Party learnt of huge sadness that the Green Party learnt of Jim huge sadness that the Green Party learnt of Jim Anderton's huge sadness that the Green Party learnt of Jim Anderton's death. huge sadness that the Green Party learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was a learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was a great learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was a great defender learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was a great defender of learnt of Jim Anderton's death. He was a great defender of the was a great defender of the underdog. was a great defender of the underdog. He was a great defender of the underdog. He stood was a great defender of the underdog. He stood up was a great defender of the underdog. He stood up for was a great defender of the underdog. He stood up for New underdog. He stood up for New Zealanders underdog. He stood up for New of underdog. He stood up for New Zealanders hurt by underdog. He stood up for New Zealanders hurt by the underdog. He stood up for New Zealanders hurt by the economic Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the '80s Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the '80s and Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the '80s and '90s Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the '80s and '90s and Zealanders hurt by the economic reforms of the '80s and '90s and he reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted his reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted his life reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted his life to reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted his life to public reforms of the '80s and '90s and he devoted his life to public service devoted his life to public service and devoted his life to public service and to devoted his life to public service and to ensuring devoted his life to public service and to ensuring a devoted his life to public service and to ensuring a fair devoted his life to public service and to ensuring a fair deal devoted his life to public service and to ensuring a fair deal for devoted his life to public service and to ensuring a fair deal for all. and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he formed and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he formed first and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he formed first the and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he formed first the new and to ensuring a fair deal for all. When he formed first the new Labour When he formed first the new Labour Party When he formed first the new Labour Party and When he formed first the new Labour Party and then When he formed first the new Labour Party and then the When he formed first the new Labour Party and then the alliance, When he formed first the new Labour Party and then the alliance, which Party and then the alliance, which of Party and then the alliance, which of course Party and then the alliance, which of course included Party and then the alliance, which of course included the Party and then the alliance, which of course included the Greenses Party and then the alliance, which of course included the Greenses for of course included the Greenses for a of course included the Greenses for a time, of course included the Greenses for a time, Jim of course included the Greenses for a time, Jim Anderton of course included the Greenses for a time, Jim Anderton also of course included the Greenses for a time, Jim Anderton also played of course included the Greenses for a time, Jim Anderton also played a a time, Jim Anderton also played a big a time, Jim Anderton also played a big part a time, Jim Anderton also played a big part in a time, Jim Anderton also played a big part in ensuring a time, Jim Anderton also played a big part in ensuring greater big part in ensuring greater proportional big part in ensuring greater proportional representation big part in ensuring greater proportional representation in big part in ensuring greater proportional representation in our proportional representation in our Parliament. proportional representation in our Parliament. His proportional representation in our Parliament. His success proportional representation in our Parliament. His success in proportional representation in our Parliament. His success in leading Parliament. His success in leading those Parliament. His success in leading those challenger Parliament. His success in leading those challenger parties Parliament. His success in leading those challenger parties paved Parliament. His success in leading those challenger parties paved the those challenger parties paved the way those challenger parties paved the way for those challenger parties paved the way for more those challenger parties paved the way for more diverse those challenger parties paved the way for more diverse views those challenger parties paved the way for more diverse views to those challenger parties paved the way for more diverse views to be way for more diverse views to be given way for more diverse views to be given a way for more diverse views to be given a voice way for more diverse views to be given a voice in way for more diverse views to be given a voice in the way for more diverse views to be given a voice in the Parliament way for more diverse views to be given a voice in the Parliament and given a voice in the Parliament and in given a voice in the Parliament and in our given a voice in the Parliament and in our Government. given a voice in the Parliament and in our Government. Jim given a voice in the Parliament and in our Government. Jim Anderton given a voice in the Parliament and in our Government. Jim Anderton made in our Government. Jim Anderton made and in our Government. Jim Anderton made and shaped in our Government. Jim Anderton made and shaped decisions in our Government. Jim Anderton made and shaped decisions affecting in our Government. Jim Anderton made and shaped decisions affecting a and shaped decisions affecting a huge and shaped decisions affecting a huge span and shaped decisions affecting a huge span of and shaped decisions affecting a huge span of life and shaped decisions affecting a huge span of life in and shaped decisions affecting a huge span of life in New and shaped decisions affecting a huge span of life in New Zealand, huge span of life in New Zealand, from huge span of life in New Zealand, from establishing huge span of life in New Zealand, from establishing Kiwibank, from establishing Kiwibank, supporting from establishing Kiwibank, from from establishing Kiwibank, supporting regional develop, from establishing Kiwibank, supporting regional develop, and supporting regional develop, and recently supporting regional develop, and recently in supporting regional develop, and recently in the supporting regional develop, and recently in the Christchurch recently in the Christchurch rebuild, recently in the Christchurch rebuild, with recently in the Christchurch rebuild, with his recently in the Christchurch rebuild, with his work recently in the Christchurch rebuild, with his work on recently in the Christchurch rebuild, with his work on the rebuild, with his work on the stadium rebuild, with his work on the stadium and rebuild, with his work on the stadium and his rebuild, with his work on the stadium and his work rebuild, with his work on the stadium and his work in rebuild, with his work on the stadium and his work in achieving rebuild, with his work on the stadium and his work in achieving a stadium and his work in achieving a commitment stadium and his work in achieving a commitment to stadium and his work in achieving a commitment to repair stadium and his work in achieving a commitment to repair and stadium and his work in achieving a commitment to repair and restore stadium and his work in achieving a commitment to repair and restore the commitment to repair and restore the Christ commitment to repair and restore the Christ Church commitment to repair and restore the Christ Church cathedral. commitment to repair and restore the Christ Church cathedral. A commitment to repair and restore the Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, he Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, he gave Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, he gave his Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, he gave his all Christ Church cathedral. A deeply Catholic man, he gave his all to Catholic man, he gave his all to restoring Catholic man, he gave his all to restoring the Catholic man, he gave his all to restoring the city's Catholic man, he gave his all to restoring the city's Anglican restoring the city's Anglican cathedral. restoring the city's Anglican cathedral. As restoring the city's Anglican cathedral. As Minister restoring the city's Anglican cathedral. As Minister of restoring the city's Anglican cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood up cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood up to cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood up to the cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood up to the industry. cathedral. As Minister of Fisheries he stood up to the industry. He he stood up to the industry. He introduced he stood up to the industry. He introduced regulations he stood up to the industry. He introduced regulations around he stood up to the industry. He introduced regulations around the introduced regulations around the South introduced regulations around the South Island introduced regulations around the South Island which introduced regulations around the South Island which reduced introduced regulations around the South Island which reduced the South Island which reduced the number South Island which reduced the number of South Island which reduced the number of dolphins South Island which reduced the number of dolphins being South Island which reduced the number of dolphins being drowned. South Island which reduced the number of dolphins being drowned. He number of dolphins being drowned. He had number of dolphins being drowned. He had a number of dolphins being drowned. He had a huge number of dolphins being drowned. He had a huge range number of dolphins being drowned. He had a huge range of number of dolphins being drowned. He had a huge range of achievements. number of dolphins being drowned. He had a huge range of achievements. So had a huge range of achievements. So our had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring memory had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring memory in had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring memory in the had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring memory in the Greens had a huge range of achievements. So our enduring memory in the Greens of our enduring memory in the Greens of him our enduring memory in the Greens of him will our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be the our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be the stand our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be the stand that our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be the stand that he our enduring memory in the Greens of him will be the stand that he took him will be the stand that he took on him will be the stand that he took on principle, him will be the stand that he took on principle, consistently, on principle, consistently, passionately on principle, consistently, passionately and on principle, consistently, passionately and effectively on principle, consistently, passionately and effectively to passionately and effectively to defend passionately and effectively to defend and passionately and effectively to defend and advocate passionately and effectively to defend and advocate for passionately and effectively to defend and advocate for a passionately and effectively to defend and advocate for a fairer passionately and effectively to defend and advocate for a fairer and defend and advocate for a fairer and more defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian way defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian way of defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian way of life defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian way of life for defend and advocate for a fairer and more egalitarian way of life for all more egalitarian way of life for all New more egalitarian way of life for all New Zealanders. more egalitarian way of life for all New Zealanders. Our more egalitarian way of life for all New Zealanders. Our condolence more egalitarian way of life for all New Zealanders. Our condolence go more egalitarian way of life for all New Zealanders. Our condolence go to New Zealanders. Our condolence go to Jim's New Zealanders. Our condolence go to Jim's family, New Zealanders. Our condolence go to Jim's family, friend New Zealanders. Our condolence go to Jim's family, friend and New Zealanders. Our condolence go to Jim's family, friend and supporters Jim's family, friend and supporters and Jim's family, friend and supporters Jim's Jim's family, friend and supporters and especially his Jim's family, friend and supporters and especially his wife Jim's family, friend and supporters and especially his wife and and especially his wife and political and especially his wife and political partner, and especially his wife and political partner, Carol. and especially his wife and political partner, Carol. He and especially his wife and political partner, Carol. He was and especially his wife and political partner, Carol. He was a political partner, Carol. He was a family political partner, Carol. He was a family man political partner, Carol. He was a family man as political partner, Carol. He was a family man as well political partner, Carol. He was a family man as well as political partner, Carol. He was a family man as well as a political partner, Carol. He was a family man as well as a huge political partner, Carol. He was a family man as well as a huge servant family man as well as a huge servant of family man as well as a huge servant of the family man as well as a huge servant of the public. of the public. <SPEAKS of the public. <SPEAKS TE of the public. <SPEAKS TE REO of the public. <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf of <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf of the <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf of the ACT <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf of the ACT Party <SPEAKS TE REO MAORI> I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to give I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to give our I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to give our condolence I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to give our condolence to I rise on behalf of the ACT Party to give our condolence to Jim give our condolence to Jim Anderton's give our condolence to Jim Anderton's family give our condolence to Jim Anderton's family and give our condolence to Jim Anderton's family and pay give our condolence to Jim Anderton's family and pay tribute give our condolence to Jim Anderton's family and pay tribute to Anderton's family and pay tribute to his Anderton's family and pay tribute to his life Anderton's family and pay tribute to his life and Anderton's family and pay tribute to his life and career. 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It listen lying areas -- low-lying areas of Dunedin. It is listen lying areas -- low-lying areas of Dunedin. It is apparent listen lying areas -- low-lying areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this is areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this is a areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this is a community areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this is a community that areas of Dunedin. It is apparent to me that this is a community that is me that this is a community that is deeply me that this is a community that is deeply engaged me that this is a community that is deeply engaged with me that this is a community that is deeply engaged with the me that this is a community that is deeply engaged with the questions deeply engaged with the questions around deeply engaged with the questions around the deeply engaged with the questions around the need deeply engaged with the questions around the need for deeply engaged with the questions around the need for a deeply engaged with the questions around the need for a long-term around the need for a long-term strategic around the need for a long-term strategic plan around the need for a long-term strategic plan to around the need for a long-term strategic plan to deal around the need for a long-term strategic plan to deal with around the need for a long-term strategic plan to deal with the strategic plan to deal with the effects strategic plan to deal with the effects of strategic plan to deal with the effects of climate strategic plan to deal with the effects of climate change strategic plan to deal with the effects of climate change and strategic plan to deal with the effects of climate change and to effects of climate change and to adapt effects of climate change and to adapt to effects of climate change and to adapt to it. effects of climate change and to adapt to it. I effects of climate change and to adapt to it. I was effects of climate change and to adapt to it. I was very effects of climate change and to adapt to it. I was very encouraged adapt to it. I was very encouraged that adapt to it. I was very encouraged that that adapt to it. I was very encouraged that that community adapt to it. I was very encouraged that that community is adapt to it. I was very encouraged that that community is looking adapt to it. I was very encouraged that that community is looking to that that community is looking to take that that community is looking to take a that that community is looking to take a leadership that that community is looking to take a leadership position that that community is looking to take a leadership position and that that community is looking to take a leadership position and see take a leadership position and see it take a leadership position and see it as take a leadership position and see it as an take a leadership position and see it as an opportunity take a leadership position and see it as an opportunity to take a leadership position and see it as an opportunity to get take a leadership position and see it as an opportunity to get ahead take a leadership position and see it as an opportunity to get ahead of it as an opportunity to get ahead of the it as an opportunity to get ahead of the adaptation it as an opportunity to get ahead of the adaptation challenge it as an opportunity to get ahead of the adaptation challenge and it as an opportunity to get ahead of the adaptation challenge and then it as an opportunity to get ahead of the adaptation challenge and then to the adaptation challenge and then to offer the adaptation challenge and then to offer the the adaptation challenge and then to offer the lessons the adaptation challenge and then to offer the lessons learned the adaptation challenge and then to offer the lessons learned to the adaptation challenge and then to offer the lessons learned to other offer the lessons learned to other communities offer the lessons learned to other communities around offer the lessons learned to other communities around the offer the lessons learned to other communities around the country offer the lessons learned to other communities around the country that communities around the country that will communities around the country that communities communities around the country that will also be communities around the country that will also be dealing communities around the country that will also be dealing with communities around the country that will also be dealing with the communities around the country that will also be dealing with the same will also be dealing with the same set will also be dealing with the same set of will also be dealing with the same set of challenges. will also be dealing with the same set of challenges. Is will also be dealing with the same set of challenges. Is the will also be dealing with the same set of challenges. Is the Minister set of challenges. Is the Minister satisfied set of challenges. Is the Minister satisfied with set of challenges. Is the Minister satisfied with the set of challenges. Is the Minister satisfied with the progress set of challenges. Is the Minister satisfied with the progress being satisfied with the progress being made satisfied with the progress being made on satisfied with the progress being made on adapting satisfied with the progress being made on adapting to satisfied with the progress being made on adapting to climate satisfied with the progress being made on adapting to climate change? made on adapting to climate change? No, made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm not made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm not satisfied made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm not satisfied at made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm not satisfied at the made on adapting to climate change? No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think that No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think that there No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think that there have No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think that there have been No, I'm not satisfied at the moment. I think that there have been a I think that there have been a number I think that there have been a number of I think that there have been a number of very I think that there have been a number of very significant I think that there have been a number of very significant and number of very significant and useful number of very significant and useful pieces number of very significant and useful pieces of number of very significant and useful pieces of work, number of very significant and useful pieces of work, some number of very significant and useful pieces of work, some of number of very significant and useful pieces of work, some of which useful pieces of work, some of which were useful pieces of work, some of which were initiated useful pieces of work, some of which were initiated by useful pieces of work, some of which were initiated by the useful pieces of work, some of which were initiated by the previous were initiated by the previous Government, were initiated by the previous Government, such were initiated by the previous Government, such as were initiated by the previous Government, such as the were initiated by the previous Government, such as the stocktake Government, such as the stocktake report Government, such as the stocktake report and Government, such as the stocktake report and the Government, such as the stocktake report and the coastal Government, such as the stocktake report and the coastal hazards report and the coastal hazards guidance report and the coastal hazards guidance I report and the coastal hazards guidance I referred report and the coastal hazards guidance I referred to report and the coastal hazards guidance I referred to before, report and the coastal hazards guidance I referred to before, which guidance I referred to before, which give guidance I referred to before, which give us guidance I referred to before, which give us an guidance I referred to before, which give us an indication guidance I referred to before, which give us an indication of guidance I referred to before, which give us an indication of the guidance I referred to before, which give us an indication of the scale give us an indication of the scale of give us an indication of the scale of the give us an indication of the scale of the challenge. give us an indication of the scale of the challenge. Certainly give us an indication of the scale of the challenge. Certainly there of the challenge. Certainly there are of the challenge. Certainly there are some of the challenge. Certainly there are some councils of the challenge. Certainly there are some councils and of the challenge. Certainly there are some councils and organisations are some councils and organisations around are some councils and organisations around the are some councils and organisations around the country are some councils and organisations around the country that are some councils and organisations around the country that are are some councils and organisations around the country that are leading around the country that are leading on around the country that are leading on this. around the country that are leading on this. But around the country that are leading on this. But - around the country that are leading on this. But - I around the country that are leading on this. But - I do around the country that are leading on this. But - I do want around the country that are leading on this. But - I do want to on this. But - I do want to acknowledge on this. But - I do want to acknowledge their on this. But - I do want to acknowledge their work. on this. But - I do want to acknowledge their work. But on this. But - I do want to acknowledge their work. But I on this. But - I do want to acknowledge their work. But I have acknowledge their work. But I have to acknowledge their work. But I have are acknowledge their work. But I have to say I acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not think acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not think that acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not think that we acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not think that we are acknowledge their work. But I have to say I do not think that we are - to say I do not think that we are - we to say I do not think that we are - we are to say I do not think that we are - we are there to say I do not think that we are - we are there yet. to say I do not think that we are - we are there yet. It to say I do not think that we are - we are there yet. It is to say I do not think that we are - we are there yet. It is very to say I do not think that we are - we are there yet. It is very clear we are there yet. It is very clear to we are there yet. It is very clear to me we are there yet. It is very clear to me - we are there yet. It is very clear to me - particularly we are there yet. It is very clear to me - particularly after we are there yet. It is very clear to me - particularly after this to me - particularly after this summer to me - particularly after this summer - to me - particularly after this summer - that to me - particularly after this summer - that we to me - particularly after this summer - that we need to me - particularly after this summer - that we need a to me - particularly after this summer - that we need a more summer - that we need a more comprehensive summer - that we need a more comprehensive nationwide summer - that we need a more comprehensive nationwide risk comprehensive nationwide risk assessment comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and to comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and to plan comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and to plan as comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and to plan as a comprehensive nationwide risk assessment and to plan as a country assessment and to plan as a country rather assessment and to plan as a country rather than assessment and to plan as a country rather than to assessment and to plan as a country rather than to leave assessment and to plan as a country rather than to leave it assessment and to plan as a country rather than to leave it up assessment and to plan as a country rather than to leave it up to rather than to leave it up to individual rather than to leave it up to individual councils. rather than to leave it up to individual councils. That rather than to leave it up to individual councils. That is rather than to leave it up to individual councils. That is why rather than to leave it up to individual councils. That is why I'm individual councils. That is why I'm making individual councils. That is why I'm making adaptation individual councils. That is why I'm making adaptation to individual councils. That is why I'm making adaptation to the individual councils. That is why I'm making adaptation to the effects individual councils. That is why I'm making adaptation to the effects of making adaptation to the effects of climate making adaptation to the effects of climate change making adaptation to the effects of climate change one making adaptation to the effects of climate change one of making adaptation to the effects of climate change one of our making adaptation to the effects of climate change one of our top climate change one of our top priorities climate change one of our top priorities of climate change one of our top priorities of work climate change one of our top priorities of work for climate change one of our top priorities of work for our climate change one of our top priorities of work for our programme priorities of work for our programme this priorities of work for our programme rather My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: Minister: Does Minister: Does her Minister: Does her Government Minister: Does her Government intend Does her Government intend to Does her Government intend to retain Does her Government intend to retain the Does her Government intend to retain the Better Does her Government intend to retain the Better Public Does her Government intend to retain the Better Public Service to retain the Better Public Service Targets to retain the Better Public Service Targets to to retain the Better Public Service Targets to reduce to retain the Better Public Service Targets to reduce the to retain the Better Public Service Targets to reduce the number Targets to reduce the number of Targets to reduce the number of people Targets to reduce the number of people on Targets to reduce the number of people on a Targets to reduce the number of people on a benefit Targets to reduce the number of people on a benefit by Targets to reduce the number of people on a benefit by 25 of people on a benefit by 25 percent, of people on a benefit by 25 percent, reduce of people on a benefit by 25 percent, reduce the of people on a benefit by 25 percent, reduce the number percent, reduce the number of percent, reduce the number of serious percent, reduce the number of serious crimes percent, reduce the number of serious crimes being percent, reduce the number of serious crimes being committed of serious crimes being committed by of serious crimes being committed by 10,000, of serious crimes being committed by 10,000, and of serious crimes being committed by 10,000, and reduce of serious crimes being committed by 10,000, and reduce the of serious crimes being committed by 10,000, and reduce the number by 10,000, and reduce the number of by 10,000, and reduce the number of children by 10,000, and reduce the number of children hospitalised of children hospitalised for of children hospitalised for preventable of children hospitalised for preventable conditions for preventable conditions by for preventable conditions by 25 for preventable conditions by 25 percent? No. No. We No. We will No. We will have No. We will have our No. We will have our own No. We will have our own system No. We will have our own system for No. We will have our own system for monitoring No. We will have our own system for monitoring and No. We will have our own system for monitoring and reporting No. We will have our own system for monitoring and reporting on monitoring and reporting on performance monitoring and reporting on performance against monitoring and reporting on performance against our monitoring and reporting on performance against our priorities. performance against our priorities. Our performance against our priorities. Our targets performance against our priorities. Our targets will performance against our priorities. Our targets will reflect performance against our priorities. Our targets will reflect our Our targets will reflect our different Our targets will reflect our different priorities Our targets will reflect our different priorities from Our targets will reflect our different priorities from the different priorities from the previous different priorities from the previous Government, different priorities from the previous Government, and different priorities from the previous Government, and will different priorities from the previous Government, and will look previous Government, and will look beyond previous Government, and will look beyond simple previous Government, and will look beyond simple measures previous Government, and will look beyond simple measures and, previous Government, and will look beyond simple measures and, in previous Government, and will look beyond simple measures and, in fact, beyond simple measures and, in fact, to beyond simple measures and, in fact, to underlying beyond simple measures and, in fact, to underlying causes. beyond simple measures and, in fact, to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the PM to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the PM consider to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the PM consider past to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the PM consider past success to underlying causes. <INTERRUPTION> Did the PM consider past success of Did the PM consider past success of selected Did the PM consider past success of selected targets Did the PM consider past success of selected targets that Did the PM consider past success of selected targets that addressed selected targets that addressed areas selected targets that addressed areas of selected targets that addressed areas of per selected targets that addressed areas of per SIS selected targets that addressed areas of per SIS sentence selected targets that addressed areas of per SIS sentence -- areas of per SIS sentence -- persistent areas of per SIS sentence -- persistent social areas of per SIS sentence -- persistent social dysfunction, areas of per SIS sentence -- persistent social dysfunction, such persistent social dysfunction, such as persistent social dysfunction, such as reducing persistent social dysfunction, such as reducing welfare persistent social dysfunction, such as reducing welfare defend persistent social dysfunction, such as reducing welfare defend say, as reducing welfare defend say, reducing as reducing welfare defend say, reducing reoffending as reducing welfare defend say, reducing reoffending rates as reducing welfare defend say, reducing reoffending rates for reducing reoffending rates for criminals, reducing reoffending rates for criminals, holding reducing reoffending rates for criminals, holding the reducing reoffending rates for criminals, holding the numbers reducing reoffending rates for criminals, holding the numbers of criminals, holding the numbers of children criminals, holding the numbers of children affected criminals, holding the numbers of children affected by criminals, holding the numbers of children affected by child criminals, holding the numbers of children affected by child abuse criminals, holding the numbers of children affected by child abuse and children affected by child abuse and lifting children affected by child abuse and lifting educational children affected by child abuse and lifting educational attainment children affected by child abuse and lifting educational attainment among lifting educational attainment among Maori lifting educational attainment among Maori and lifting educational attainment among Maori and Pacific lifting educational attainment among Maori and Pacific students? lifting educational attainment among Maori and Pacific students? I lifting educational attainment among Maori and Pacific students? I think Maori and Pacific students? I think it's Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair to Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair to say Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair to say that Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair to say that probably Maori and Pacific students? I think it's fair to say that probably all it's fair to say that probably all Governments it's fair to say that probably all Governments share it's fair to say that probably all Governments share an it's fair to say that probably all Governments share an ambition it's fair to say that probably all Governments share an ambition for Governments share an ambition for reducing Governments share an ambition for reducing crime Governments share an ambition for reducing crime and Governments share an ambition for reducing crime and improving reducing crime and improving employment. reducing crime and improving employment. <INTERRUPTION> employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that we employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that we have employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that we have a employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that we have a set employment. <INTERRUPTION> Our point is that we have a set of Our point is that we have a set of priorities Our point is that we have a set of priorities that Our point is that we have a set of priorities that gets Our point is that we have a set of priorities that gets to Our point is that we have a set of priorities that gets to the Our point is that we have a set of priorities that gets to the root priorities that gets to the root causes priorities that gets to the root causes of priorities that gets to the root causes of some priorities that gets to the root causes of some of priorities that gets to the root causes of some of the priorities that gets to the root causes of some of the issues priorities that gets to the root causes of some of the issues that priorities that gets to the root causes of some of the issues that we causes of some of the issues that we see causes of some of the issues that we see in causes of some of the issues that we see in New causes of some of the issues that we see in New Zealand. causes of some of the issues that we see in New Zealand. A causes of some of the issues that we see in New Zealand. A great causes of some of the issues that we see in New Zealand. A great example, see in New Zealand. A great example, for see in New Zealand. A great example, for instance, see in New Zealand. A great example, for instance, would see in New Zealand. A great example, for instance, would be see in New Zealand. A great example, for instance, would be our see in New Zealand. A great example, for instance, would be our ambition for instance, would be our ambition to for instance, would be our ambition to measure for instance, would be our ambition to measure and for instance, would be our ambition to measure and target for instance, would be our ambition to measure and target directly to measure and target directly issues to measure and target directly issues like to measure and target directly issues like child to measure and target directly issues like child poverty. to measure and target directly issues like child poverty. That's issues like child poverty. That's getting issues like child poverty. That's getting to issues like child poverty. That's getting to the issues like child poverty. That's getting to the root issues like child poverty. That's getting to the root cause issues like child poverty. That's getting to the root cause of issues like child poverty. That's getting to the root cause of an getting to the root cause of an issue, getting to the root cause of an issue, rather getting to the root cause of an issue, rather than getting to the root cause of an issue, rather than just getting to the root cause of an issue, rather than just some getting to the root cause of an issue, rather than just some of getting to the root cause of an issue, rather than just some of the issue, rather than just some of the symptoms issue, rather than just some of the symptoms as issue, rather than just some of the symptoms as past issue, rather than just some of the symptoms as past targets issue, rather than just some of the symptoms as past targets did. symptoms as past targets did. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Why <INTERRUPTION> Why does <INTERRUPTION> Why does the <INTERRUPTION> Why does the Government <INTERRUPTION> Why does the Government persist <INTERRUPTION> Why does the Government persist with Why does the Government persist with the Why does the Government persist with the view Why does the Government persist with the view that Why does the Government persist with the view that poverty Why does the Government persist with the view that poverty in Why does the Government persist with the view that poverty in New Why does the Government persist with the view that poverty in New Zealand the view that poverty in New Zealand is the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely a the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely a function the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely a function of the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely a function of income the view that poverty in New Zealand is purely a function of income when is purely a function of income when the is purely a function of income when the evidence is purely a function of income when the evidence is is purely a function of income when the evidence is overwhelming is purely a function of income when the evidence is overwhelming that the evidence is overwhelming that low the evidence is overwhelming that low educational the evidence is overwhelming that low educational achievement, the evidence is overwhelming that low educational achievement, family low educational achievement, family violence, low educational achievement, family violence, long-term low educational achievement, family violence, long-term welfare violence, long-term welfare dependency violence, long-term welfare dependency also violence, long-term welfare dependency also - violence, long-term welfare dependency also - and violence, long-term welfare dependency also - and serial dependency also - and serial criminal dependency also - and serial criminal offending dependency also - and serial criminal offending have dependency also - and serial criminal offending have a dependency also - and serial criminal offending have a huge criminal offending have a huge impact criminal offending have a huge impact on criminal offending have a huge impact on persistent criminal offending have a huge impact on persistent deprivation criminal offending have a huge impact on persistent deprivation and impact on persistent deprivation and material impact on persistent deprivation and material hardship? impact on persistent deprivation and material hardship? Hear, impact on persistent deprivation and material hardship? Hear, hear! material hardship? Hear, hear! Because material hardship? Hear, hear! Because the material hardship? Hear, hear! Because the evidence material hardship? Hear, hear! Because the evidence points material hardship? Hear, hear! Because the evidence points to Because the evidence points to material Because the evidence points to material hardship Because the evidence points to material hardship as Because the evidence points to material hardship as being Because the evidence points to material hardship as being one Because the evidence points to material hardship as being one of material hardship as being one of the material hardship as being one of Because material hardship as being one of the most consistent material hardship as being one of the most consistent drivers material hardship as being one of the most consistent drivers of material hardship as being one of the most consistent drivers of poor the most consistent drivers of poor outcomes the most consistent drivers of poor outcomes for the most consistent drivers of poor outcomes for children. the most consistent drivers of poor outcomes for children. We've the most consistent drivers of poor outcomes for children. We've never outcomes for children. We've never argued outcomes for children. We've never argued that outcomes for children. We've never argued that that outcomes for children. We've never argued that that in outcomes for children. We've never argued that that in and outcomes for children. We've never argued that that in and of outcomes for children. We've never argued that that in and of itself argued that that in and of itself was argued that that in and of itself was the argued that that in and of itself was the only argued that that in and of itself was the only issue argued that that in and of itself was the only issue that argued that that in and of itself was the only issue that needs argued that that in and of itself was the only issue that needs to argued that that in and of itself was the only issue that needs to be was the only issue that needs to be looked was the only issue that needs to be looked at, was the only issue that needs to be looked at, which was the only issue that needs to be looked at, which is was the only issue that needs to be looked at, which is why, was the only issue that needs to be looked at, which is why, of was the only issue that needs to be looked at, which is why, of course, looked at, which is why, of course, we've looked at, which is why, of course, we've also looked at, which is why, of course, we've also requiring looked at, which is why, of course, we've also requiring and looked at, which is why, of course, we've also requiring and will, looked at, which is why, of course, we've also requiring and will, as looked at, which is why, of course, we've also requiring and will, as a we've also requiring and will, as a Government, we've also requiring and will, as a Government, focus we've also requiring and will, as a Government, focus more we've also requiring and will, as a Government, focus more broadly we've also requiring and will, as a Government, focus more broadly on we've also requiring and will, as a Government, focus more broadly on a Government, focus more broadly on a child Government, focus more broadly on a child wellbeing Government, focus more broadly on a child wellbeing strategy Government, focus more broadly on a child wellbeing strategy for Government, focus more broadly on a child wellbeing strategy for the child wellbeing strategy for the very child wellbeing strategy for the child child wellbeing strategy for the very issues, reasons child wellbeing strategy for the very issues, reasons that child wellbeing strategy for the very issues, reasons that the very issues, reasons that the minister very issues, reasons that the very very issues, reasons that the minister - that very issues, reasons that the minister - that the very issues, reasons that the minister - that the past very issues, reasons that the minister - that the past minister minister - that the past minister points minister - that the past minister points out. minister - that the past minister points out. Can minister - that the past minister points out. Can the minister - that the past minister points out. Can the PM minister - that the past minister points out. Can the PM confirm minister - that the past minister points out. Can the PM confirm that points out. Can the PM confirm that the points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government is points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government is going points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government is going to points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government is going to abandon points out. Can the PM confirm that the Government is going to abandon a the Government is going to abandon a focused the Government is going to abandon a focused approach the Government is going to abandon a focused approach to the Government is going to abandon a focused approach to social focused approach to social dysfunction focused approach to social dysfunction caused focused approach to social dysfunction caused by focused approach to social dysfunction caused by the focused approach to social dysfunction caused by the factors dysfunction caused by the factors they dysfunction caused by the factors they have dysfunction caused by the factors they have referred dysfunction caused by the factors they have referred to? dysfunction caused by the factors they have referred to? And dysfunction caused by the factors they have referred to? And limit dysfunction caused by the factors they have referred to? And limit her they have referred to? And limit her approach they have referred to? And limit her approach to they have referred to? And limit her approach to addressing they have referred to? And limit her approach to addressing deprivation approach to addressing deprivation simply approach to addressing deprivation simply to approach to addressing deprivation simply to the approach to addressing deprivation simply to the measurement approach to addressing deprivation simply to the measurement of approach to addressing deprivation simply to the measurement of income? simply to the measurement of income? No. simply to the measurement of income? No. Because, simply to the measurement of income? No. Because, in simply to the measurement of income? No. Because, in fact, simply to the measurement of income? No. Because, in fact, as... No. Because, in fact, as... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> As <INTERRUPTION> As the <INTERRUPTION> As the member <INTERRUPTION> As the member well <INTERRUPTION> As the member well knows, <INTERRUPTION> As the member well knows, we've <INTERRUPTION> As the member well knows, we've also As the member well knows, we've also included As the member well knows, we've also included material As the member well knows, we've also included material hardship As the member well knows, we've also included material hardship as As the member well knows, we've also included material hardship as one As the member well knows, we've also included material hardship as one of included material hardship as one of the included material hardship as one of the things included material hardship as one of the things that included material hardship as one of the things that we included material hardship as one of the things that we would included material hardship as one of the things that we would like included material hardship as one of the things that we would like to the things that we would like to include the things that we would like to include and the things that we would like to include and hold the things that we would like to include and hold ourselves the things that we would like to include and hold ourselves to include and hold ourselves to account include and hold ourselves to include include and hold ourselves to account on. Our include and hold ourselves to account on. Our point include and hold ourselves to account on. Our point is include and hold ourselves to account on. Our point is that include and hold ourselves to account on. Our point is that we, include and hold ourselves to account on. Our point is that we, in account on. Our point is that we, in fact, account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want to account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want to be account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want to be broader account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want to be broader in account on. Our point is that we, in fact, want to be broader in the fact, want to be broader in the accountabilities fact, want to be broader in the accountabilities we fact, want to be broader in the accountabilities we hold fact, want to be broader in the accountabilities we hold ourselves accountabilities we hold ourselves to accountabilities we hold ourselves to as accountabilities we hold ourselves to as a accountabilities we hold ourselves to as a Government. accountabilities we hold ourselves to as a Government. The accountabilities we hold ourselves to as a Government. The BPS accountabilities we hold ourselves to as a Government. The BPS targets to as a Government. The BPS targets that to as a Government. The BPS targets that the to as a Government. The BPS targets that the last to as a Government. The BPS targets that the last Government to as a Government. The BPS targets that the last Government had to as a Government. The BPS targets that the last Government had were that the last Government had were quite that the last Government had were quite narrowly that the last Government had were quite narrowly focused, that the last Government had were quite narrowly focused, looked that the last Government had were quite narrowly focused, looked at quite narrowly focused, looked at symptoms quite narrowly focused, looked at symptoms rather quite narrowly focused, looked at symptoms rather than quite narrowly focused, looked at symptoms rather than root quite narrowly focused, looked at symptoms rather than root causes, symptoms rather than root causes, and symptoms rather than root causes, and in symptoms rather than root causes, and in some symptoms rather than root causes, and in some cases symptoms rather than root causes, and in some cases were symptoms rather than root causes, and in some cases were manipulated and in some cases were manipulated and and in some cases were manipulated symptoms and in some cases were manipulated and didn't lead and in some cases were manipulated and didn't lead to and in some cases were manipulated and didn't lead to improved and didn't lead to improved outcomes. and didn't lead to improved outcomes. <INTERRUPTION> outcomes. <INTERRUPTION> supplementary outcomes. <INTERRUPTION> supplementary question. outcomes. <INTERRUPTION> supplementary question. 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I ask the PM: Will it help in the efficacy of PM: Will it help in the efficacy of future PM: Will it help in the efficacy of future measurements PM: Will it help in the efficacy of future measurements that PM: Will it help in the efficacy of future measurements that she future measurements that she discovered future measurements that she discovered family future measurements that she discovered family and future measurements that she discovered family and child future measurements that she discovered family and child poverty discovered family and child poverty before discovered family and child poverty before she discovered family and child poverty before she became discovered family and child poverty before she became the discovered family and child poverty before she became the Government, before she became the Government, not before she became the Government, not nine before she became the Government, not nine years before she became the Government, not nine years after before she became the Government, not nine years after it? not nine years after it? <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Mr <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, the <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, the Deputy <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM makes <INTERRUPTION> Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM makes a Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM makes a very Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM makes a very good Mr Speaker, the Deputy PM makes a very good point. 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But we're also saying that this Government's saying that this Government's priority saying that this Government's priority is saying that this Government's priority is that saying that this Government's priority is that those saying that this Government's priority is that those mothers saying that this Government's priority is that those mothers also priority is that those mothers also have priority is that those mothers also have decent priority is that those mothers also have decent housing priority is that those mothers also have decent housing that, priority is that those mothers also have decent housing that, they priority is that those mothers also have decent housing that, they are have decent housing that, they are free have decent housing that, they are free of have decent housing that, they are free of harm have decent housing that, they are free of harm and have decent housing that, they are free of harm and abuse, have decent housing that, they are free of harm and abuse, that have decent housing that, they are free of harm and abuse, that they free of harm and abuse, that they have free of harm and abuse, that they have decent free of harm and abuse, that they have decent incomes. free of harm and abuse, that they have decent incomes. 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Question no. 5. A point forecast of 22.5%. Question no. 5. A point of forecast of 22.5%. Question no. 5. A point of order. forecast of 22.5%. Question no. 5. A point of order. The forecast of 22.5%. Question no. 5. A point of order. The Hon forecast of 22.5%. Question no. 5. A point of order. The Hon Chris point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I understand point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I understand that point of order. The Hon Chris Hipkins. I understand that you've Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed Hipkins. I understand that you've Hipkins. Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed this question Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed this question to Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed this question to be Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed this question to be put Hipkins. I understand that you've allowed this question to be put down allowed this question to be put down to allowed this question to be put down to the allowed this question to be put down to the Minister allowed this question to be put down to the Minister for allowed this question to be put down to the Minister for Finance? allowed this question to be put down to the Minister for Finance? That's to the Minister for Finance? That's absolutely to the Minister for Finance? That's absolutely right. to the Minister for Finance? That's absolutely right. However, to the Minister for Finance? That's absolutely right. However, your absolutely right. However, your ruling absolutely right. However, your ruling before absolutely right. However, your ruling before Christmas absolutely right. However, your ruling before Christmas was absolutely right. However, your ruling before Christmas was this ruling before Christmas was this this ruling before Christmas was this this minister ruling before Christmas was this this minister did ruling before Christmas was this this minister did not ruling before Christmas was this this minister did not have ruling before Christmas was this this minister did not have the this minister did not have the responsibility this minister did not have the responsibility for this minister did not have the responsibility for financial responsibility for financial reports. responsibility for financial reports. We responsibility for financial reports. We will responsibility for financial reports. We will see responsibility for financial reports. We will see what responsibility for financial reports. We will see what happens. reports. We will see what happens. The reports. We will see what happens. The Hon reports. We will see what happens. The Hon Steven reports. We will see what happens. 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What What is What is the What is the current What is the current level What is the current level of What is the current level of net What is the current level of net business What is the current level of net business confidence business confidence as business confidence as expressed business confidence as expressed by business confidence as expressed by each business confidence as expressed by each of business confidence as expressed by each of the business confidence as expressed by each of the ANZ as expressed by each of the ANZ Business as expressed by each of the ANZ Business Outlook as expressed by each of the ANZ Business Outlook Survey Business Outlook Survey and Business Outlook Survey and the Business Outlook Survey and the NZIER Business Outlook Survey and the NZIER Quarterly Business Outlook Survey and the NZIER Quarterly Survey and the NZIER Quarterly Survey of and the NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business and the NZIER Quarterly Survey of Business Opinion? 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Is the minister aware exactly how long it has been since exactly how long it has been since the exactly how long it has been since the ANZ exactly how long it has been since the ANZ Business exactly how long it has been since the ANZ Business Outlook exactly how long it has been since the ANZ Business Outlook Survey exactly how long it has been since the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met business the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met business confidence the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met business confidence so the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met business confidence so low the ANZ Business Outlook Survey had met business confidence so low -38 met business confidence so low -38 and met business confidence so low -38 and -39, met business confidence so low -38 and -39, in met business confidence so low -38 and -39, in the met business confidence so low -38 and -39, in the last met business confidence so low -38 and -39, in the last two met business confidence so low -38 and -39, in the last two monthly and -39, in the last two monthly surveys and -39, in the last two monthly surveys respectively? and -39, in the last two monthly surveys respectively? 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What is the current level of net small business level of net small business confidence level of net small business confidence as level of net small business confidence as expressed level of net small business confidence as expressed in level of net small business confidence as expressed in the level of net small business confidence as expressed in the ANZ confidence as expressed in the ANZ Business confidence as expressed in the ANZ Business Microscope confidence as expressed in the ANZ Business Microscope Survey, confidence as expressed in the ANZ Business Microscope Survey, and confidence as expressed in the ANZ Business Microscope Survey, and how Business Microscope Survey, and how long Business Microscope Survey, and how Business Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it been Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it been since Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it been since the Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it been since the level Business Microscope Survey, and how long has it been since the level of long has it been since the level of small long has it been since the level of small business long has it been since the level of small business confidence long has it been since the level of small business confidence has long has it been since the level of small business confidence has been small business confidence has been so small business confidence has been so low small business confidence has been so low in small business confidence has been so low in that small business confidence has been so low in that sector? small business confidence has been so low in that sector? 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In light of the information in my previously information in my previously supplementaries, information in my previously decision information in my previously supplementaries, why does information in my previously supplementaries, why does the supplementaries, why does the minister supplementaries, why does the minister want supplementaries, why does the minister want younger, supplementaries, why does the minister want younger, intoed minister want younger, intoed vulnerable minister want younger, intoed vulnerable workers minister want younger, intoed vulnerable workers to minister want younger, intoed vulnerable workers to -- vulnerable workers to -- inexperienced, vulnerable workers to -- inexperienced, vulnerable vulnerable workers to -- inexperienced, vulnerable workers vulnerable workers to -- inexperienced, vulnerable workers to inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on jobs inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on jobs now inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on jobs now included inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on jobs now included in inexperienced, vulnerable workers to miss out on jobs now included in the miss out on jobs now included in the 90-day miss out on jobs now included in the 90-day trials? miss out on jobs now included in the 90-day trials? 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Mr a month, as it has for the past two years? Mr Speaker, a month, as it has for the past two years? Mr Speaker, I a month, as it has for the past two years? Mr Speaker, I am a month, as it has for the past two years? Mr Speaker, I am confident years? Mr Speaker, I am confident that years? Mr Speaker, I am confident that New years? Mr Speaker, I am confident that New Zealand years? Mr Speaker, I am confident that New Zealand will years? Mr Speaker, I am confident that New Zealand will continue years? 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Question no. No. 7, Jan National Party back in 2010. Question no. No. 7, Jan Tinetti. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: of Education: Is of Education: Is the of Education: Is the Government of Education: Is the Government committed of Education: Is the Government committed to Is the Government committed to raising Is the Government committed to raising the Is the Government committed to raising the status raising the status of raising the status of the raising the status of the teaching raising the status of the teaching profession of the teaching profession and of the teaching profession and giving of the teaching profession and giving it of the teaching profession and giving it more of the teaching profession and giving it more control and giving it more control of and giving it more control of its and giving it more control of its own and giving it more control of its own affairs; and giving it more control of its own affairs; if and giving it more control of its own affairs; if so, of its own affairs; if so, what of its own affairs; if so, what actions of its own affairs; if so, what actions is of its own affairs; if so, what actions is he of its own affairs; if so, what actions is he taking what actions is he taking to what actions is he taking to fulfil what actions is he taking to fulfil this what actions is he taking to fulfil this commitment? The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, absolutely, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, absolutely, yes. The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, absolutely, yes. Today, The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, absolutely, yes. Today, the The Hon Chris Hipkins. Mr Speaker, absolutely, yes. Today, the House absolutely, yes. Today, the House will absolutely, yes. Today, the House will be absolutely, yes. Today, the House will be debating absolutely, yes. Today, the House will be debating the absolutely, yes. Today, the House will be debating the first absolutely, yes. Today, the House will be debating the first reading will be debating the first reading of will be debating the first reading of the will be debating the first reading of the Education will be debating the first reading of the Education (Teaching will be debating the first reading of the Education (Teaching Council of the Education (Teaching Council of of the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa) Amendment of the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. of the Education (Teaching Council of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This bill of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This bill restores of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This bill restores democracy of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This bill restores democracy to of Aotearoa) Amendment Bill. This bill restores democracy to the bill restores democracy to the teaching bill restores democracy to the teaching profession, bill restores democracy to the teaching profession, giving bill restores democracy to the teaching profession, giving teachers teaching profession, giving teachers the teaching profession, giving teachers the right teaching profession, giving teachers the right to teaching profession, giving teachers the right to elect teaching profession, giving teachers the right to elect members teaching profession, giving teachers the right to elect members to teaching profession, giving teachers the right to elect members to the the right to elect members to the governing the right to elect members to the governing body the right to elect members to the governing body of the right to elect members to the governing body of their the right to elect members to the governing body of their own governing body of their own professional governing body of their own professional organisation. governing body of their own professional organisation. This governing body of their own professional organisation. This yet professional organisation. This yet another professional organisation. This yet another step professional organisation. This yet another step this professional organisation. This yet another step this government professional organisation. This yet another step this government is another step this government is taking another step this government is taking to another step this government is taking to begin another step this government is taking to begin to another step this government is taking to begin to restore another step this government is taking to begin to restore trust another step this government is taking to begin to restore trust and taking to begin to restore trust and confidence taking to begin to restore trust and confidence within taking to begin to restore trust and confidence within the taking to begin to restore trust and confidence within the teaching confidence within the teaching community. confidence within the teaching community. How confidence within the teaching community. How will confidence within the teaching community. How will the confidence within the teaching community. How will the different community. How will the different parts community. How will the different parts of community. How will the different parts of the community. How will the different parts of the teaching community. How will the different parts of the teaching profession community. How will the different parts of the teaching profession be parts of the teaching profession be represented parts of the teaching profession be represented on parts of the teaching profession be represented on this parts of the teaching profession be represented on this teaching represented on this teaching council? represented on this teaching council? Mr represented on this teaching council? Mr Speaker, represented on this teaching council? Mr Speaker, there'll represented on this teaching council? Mr Speaker, there'll be council? Mr Speaker, there'll be seven council? Mr Speaker, there'll be seven elected council? Mr Speaker, there'll be seven elected representatives council? Mr Speaker, there'll be seven elected representatives on council? Mr Speaker, there'll be seven elected representatives on the seven elected representatives on the teaching seven elected representatives on the seven seven elected representatives on the teaching council. They're teaching council. They're representative teaching council. They're representative of teaching council. They're representative of primary teaching council. They're representative of primary teachers, representative of primary teachers, secondary representative of primary teachers, secondary teachers representative of primary teachers, secondary teachers and representative of primary teachers, secondary teachers and early secondary teachers and early childhood secondary teachers and early childhood teachers, secondary teachers and early childhood teachers, a secondary teachers and early childhood teachers, a representative childhood teachers, a representative of childhood teachers, a representative of primary childhood teachers, a representative of primary and childhood teachers, a representative of primary and secondary childhood teachers, a representative of primary and secondary principals, of primary and secondary principals, one of primary and secondary principals, one each. of primary and secondary principals, one each. Teaching of primary and secondary principals, one each. Teaching is of primary and secondary principals, one each. Teaching is a of primary and secondary principals, one each. Teaching is a diverse one each. Teaching is a diverse community one each. Teaching is a diverse community and one each. Teaching is a diverse community and the one each. Teaching is a diverse community and the membership one each. Teaching is a diverse community and the membership of one each. Teaching is a diverse community and the membership of the community and the membership of the council community and the membership of the council reflects community and the membership of the council reflects that. community and the membership of the council reflects that. The community and the membership of the council reflects that. The balance council reflects that. The balance of council reflects that. The balance of six council reflects that. The balance of six members council reflects that. The balance of six members will council reflects that. The balance of six members will be council reflects that. The balance of six members will be appointed council reflects that. The balance of six members will be appointed by of six members will be appointed by the of six members will be appointed by the minister. the minister. What the minister. What advice the minister. What advice has the minister. What advice has he the minister. What advice has he seen the minister. What advice has he seen about the minister. What advice has he seen about the What advice has he seen about the merits What advice has he seen about the merits of What advice has he seen about the merits of the What advice has he seen about the merits of the current What advice has he seen about the merits of the current provisions What advice has he seen about the merits of the current provisions for merits of the current provisions for the merits of the current provisions for What merits of the current provisions for the minister to merits of the current provisions for the minister to appoint merits of the current provisions for the minister to appoint all merits of the current provisions for the minister to appoint all members the minister to appoint all members of the minister to appoint all members of the the minister to appoint all members of the education the minister to appoint all members of the education council? the minister to appoint all members of the education council? Mr of the education council? Mr Speaker, of the education council? Mr Speaker, when of the education council? Mr Speaker, when these of the education council? Mr Speaker, when these provisions of the education council? Mr Speaker, when these provisions were Speaker, when these provisions were introduced Speaker, when these provisions were introduced they Speaker, when these provisions were introduced they were Speaker, when these provisions were introduced they were overwhelming introduced they were overwhelming opposed. introduced they were overwhelming opposed. We introduced they were overwhelming opposed. We saw introduced they were overwhelming opposed. We saw quotes introduced they were overwhelming opposed. We saw quotes including opposed. We saw quotes including "democracy opposed. We saw quotes including "democracy appears opposed. We saw quotes including "democracy appears to opposed. We saw quotes including "democracy appears to be opposed. We saw quotes including "democracy appears to be so "democracy appears to be so inconvenient "democracy appears to be so inconvenient for "democracy appears to be so inconvenient for the "democracy appears to be so inconvenient for the previous inconvenient for the previous government inconvenient for the previous government that inconvenient for the previous government that the inconvenient for the previous government that the only inconvenient for the previous government that the only way inconvenient for the previous government that the only way they government that the only way they can government that the only way they can control government that the only way they can control and government that the only way they can control and incorporateise can control and incorporateise legislation can control and incorporateise legislation is can control and incorporateise legislation is to can control and incorporateise legislation is to legislate can control and incorporateise legislation is to legislate it." legislation is to legislate it." This legislation is to legislate it." This government legislation is to legislate it." This government believes legislation is to legislate it." This government believes to legislation is to legislate it." This government believes to give legislation is to legislate it." This government believes to give the This government believes to give the teaching This government believes to give the teaching profession This government believes to give the teaching profession the This government believes to give the teaching profession the same teaching profession the same autonomy teaching profession the same autonomy we teaching profession the same autonomy we give teaching profession the same autonomy we give to teaching profession the same autonomy we give to doctors, teaching profession the same autonomy we give to doctors, to autonomy we give to doctors, to nurses autonomy we give to doctors, to nurses and autonomy we give to doctors, to nurses and many autonomy we give to doctors, to nurses and many other autonomy we give to doctors, to nurses and many other professions. nurses and many other professions. We nurses and many other professions. We trust nurses and many other professions. We trust teachers, nurses and many other professions. We trust teachers, we nurses and many other professions. We trust teachers, we respect nurses and many other professions. We trust teachers, we respect them We trust teachers, we respect them and We trust teachers, we respect them and believe We trust teachers, we respect them and believe they We trust teachers, we respect them and believe they should We trust teachers, we respect them and believe they should have We trust teachers, we respect them and believe they should have a We trust teachers, we respect them and believe they should have a say and believe they should have a say in and believe they should have a say in their and believe they should have a say in their how and believe they should have a say in their how profession and believe they should have a say in their how profession is and believe they should have a say in their how profession is governed. in their how profession is governed. Question in their how profession is governed. Question no. in their how profession is governed. Question no. 8, in their how profession is governed. Question no. 8, Nikki in their how profession is governed. Question no. 8, Nikki Kaye. 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The The Hon The Hon Chris The Hon Chris Hipkins. The Hon Chris Hipkins. National The Hon Chris Hipkins. National standards The Hon Chris Hipkins. National standards are The Hon Chris Hipkins. National standards are no The Hon Chris Hipkins. National standards are no longer The Hon Chris Hipkins. National standards are no longer an standards are no longer an instrument standards are no longer an instrument of standards are no longer an instrument of government standards are no longer an instrument of government policy. standards are no longer an instrument of government policy. The instrument of government policy. The Ministry instrument of government policy. The instrument instrument of government policy. The Ministry of Education instrument of government policy. The Ministry of Education does instrument of government policy. The Ministry of Education does not Ministry of Education does not require Ministry of Education does not require skills Ministry of Education does not require skills to Ministry of Education does not require skills to fill Ministry of Education does not require skills to fill in Ministry of Education does not require skills to fill in paperwork require skills to fill in paperwork about require skills to fill in paperwork about any require skills to fill in paperwork about any tools require skills to fill in paperwork about any tools they require skills to fill in paperwork about any tools they might require skills to fill in paperwork about any tools they might choose require skills to fill in paperwork about any tools they might choose to about any tools they might choose to use about any tools they might choose to use to about any tools they might choose to use to assess about any tools they might choose to use to assess and about any tools they might choose to use to assess and report about any tools they might choose to use to assess and report on use to assess and report on students' use to assess and report on students' progress, use to assess and report on students' progress, whether use to assess and report on students' progress, whether they use to assess and report on students' progress, whether they be students' progress, whether they be ASTIL, students' progress, whether they be ASTIL, national students' progress, whether they be ASTIL, national standards students' progress, whether they be ASTIL, national standards or students' progress, whether they be ASTIL, national standards or any ASTIL, national standards or any other ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. I ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. I have ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. I have been ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. I have been clear ASTIL, national standards or any other tool. I have been clear that other tool. I have been clear that schools other tool. I have been clear that schools should other tool. I have been clear that schools should choose other tool. I have been clear that schools should choose an other tool. I have been clear that schools should choose an approach schools should choose an approach that schools should choose an approach that works schools should choose an approach that works best schools should choose an approach that works best for schools should choose an approach that works best for their that works best for their communities that works best for their communities whilst that works best for their communities whilst ensuring that works best for their communities whilst ensuring that communities whilst ensuring that parents communities whilst ensuring that parents receive communities whilst ensuring that parents receive clear communities whilst ensuring that parents receive clear and communities whilst ensuring that parents receive clear and regular parents receive clear and regular reporting. parents receive clear and regular reporting. The parents receive clear and regular reporting. The Hon parents receive clear and regular reporting. The Hon Nikki parents receive clear and regular reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. parents receive clear and regular reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr Speaker. reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is he reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is he now reporting. The Hon Nikki Kaye. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no school you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no school is you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no school is allowed you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no school is allowed to you, Mr Speaker. Is he now saying that no school is allowed to keep that no school is allowed to keep their that no school is allowed to keep their system that no school is allowed to keep their system of that no school is allowed to keep their system of national that no school is allowed to keep their system of national standards? their system of national standards? No. No. Mr No. Mr Speaker, No. Mr Speaker, given No. Mr Speaker, given that No. Mr Speaker, given that he No. Mr Speaker, given that he can't No. Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the country Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the country how Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the country how many Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the country how many schools Mr Speaker, given that he can't tell the country how many schools are the country how many schools are keeping the country how many schools are keeping national the country how many schools are keeping national standards, the country how many schools are keeping national standards, what keeping national standards, what information keeping national standards, what information enabled keeping national standards, what information enabled him keeping national standards, what information enabled him to keeping national standards, what information enabled him to make keeping national standards, what information enabled him to make the information enabled him to make the claim information enabled him to make the claim that information enabled him to make the claim that the information enabled him to make the claim that the vast information enabled him to make the claim that the vast bulk information enabled him to make the claim that the vast bulk of information enabled him to make the claim that the vast bulk of them information enabled him to make the claim that the vast bulk of them do claim that the vast bulk of them do agree claim that the vast bulk of them do agree with claim that the vast bulk of them do agree with getting claim that the vast bulk of them do agree with getting rid claim that the vast bulk of them do agree with getting rid of claim that the vast bulk of them do agree with getting rid of national agree with getting rid of national standards? agree with getting rid of national standards? Mr agree with getting rid of national standards? Mr Speaker, agree with getting rid of national standards? Mr Speaker, because agree with getting rid of national standards? Mr Speaker, because I standards? Mr Speaker, because I read standards? Mr Speaker, because I read the standards? Mr Speaker, because I read the newspaper, standards? Mr Speaker, because I read the newspaper, I standards? Mr Speaker, because I read the newspaper, I watch standards? 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Is he accusing all schools who have chosen accusing all schools who have chosen to accusing all schools who have chosen to keep accusing all schools who have chosen to keep national accusing all schools who have chosen to keep national standards, accusing all schools who have chosen to keep national standards, as to keep national standards, as failing to keep national standards, as failing to to keep national standards, as failing to understand to keep national standards, as failing to understand him, to keep national standards, as failing to understand him, or to keep national standards, as failing to understand him, or being failing to understand him, or being politically? failing to understand him, or being politically? Mr failing to understand him, or being politically? Mr Speaker, failing to understand him, or being politically? Mr Speaker, no, failing to understand him, or being politically? Mr Speaker, no, and failing to understand him, or being politically? 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On 23 December 2017 a medium scale drought was 2017 a medium scale drought was announced 2017 a medium scale drought was announced for 2017 a medium scale drought was announced for parts 2017 a medium scale drought was announced for parts of 2017 a medium scale drought was announced for parts of the 2017 a medium scale drought was announced for parts of the Taranaki, announced for parts of the Taranaki, Manurewaty, announced for parts of the Taranaki, Manurewaty, Wanganui announced for parts of the Taranaki, Manurewaty, Wanganui and announced for parts of the Taranaki, Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region and Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region and extended Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region and extended the Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region and extended the Grey Manurewaty, Wanganui and Wellington region and extended the Grey and region and extended the Grey and Buller region and extended the Grey and Buller districts region and extended the Grey and Buller districts on region and extended the Grey and Buller districts on 10 region and extended the Grey and Buller districts on 10 January region and extended the Grey and Buller districts on 10 January 2018. 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