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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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Would she please come forward to the of Allegiance. Would she please come forward to the Chair of Allegiance. Would she please come forward to the Chair on of Allegiance. Would she please come forward to the Chair on my of Allegiance. Would she please come forward to the Chair on my right? I, I, Nicola I, Nicola Valentine I, Nicola Valentine Willis, I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I will I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I will be I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I will be faithful I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I will be faithful and I, Nicola Valentine Willis, swear that I will be faithful and bear that I will be faithful and bear true that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty that I will be faithful and bear true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs true allegiance to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according to Elizabeth the Second, Her heirs and successors, according to law. 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Is the State Highway improvements class State Highway improvements class reducing State Highway improvements class reducing by State Highway improvements class reducing by $5 State Highway improvements class reducing by $5 billion State Highway improvements class reducing by $5 billion over State Highway improvements class reducing by $5 billion over the State Highway improvements class reducing by $5 billion over the next reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 years reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 years and reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 years and the reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 years and the various reducing by $5 billion over the next 10 years and the various public 10 years and the various public transport 10 years and the various public transport classes 10 years and the various public transport classes increasing 10 years and the various public transport classes increasing by transport classes increasing by around transport classes increasing by around $5 transport classes increasing by around $5 billion transport classes increasing by around $5 billion and transport classes increasing by around $5 billion and if transport classes increasing by around $5 billion and if so, transport classes increasing by around $5 billion and if so, why transport classes increasing by around $5 billion and if so, why is around $5 billion and if so, why is she around $5 billion and if so, why is she so around $5 billion and if so, why is she so afraid around $5 billion and if so, why is she so afraid of around $5 billion and if so, why is she so afraid of owning around $5 billion and if so, why is she so afraid of owning that around $5 billion and if so, why is she so afraid of owning that fact? she so afraid of owning that fact? 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Speaking The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Speaking about The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Speaking about investment The Rt Hon Winston Peters. Speaking about investment and The Rt Hon Winston Peters. 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Opposition have just lost three supplementaries. The Opposition have just lost three supplementaries. The Deputy Opposition have just lost three supplementaries. The Deputy PM Opposition have just lost three supplementaries. The Deputy PM will supplementaries. The Deputy PM will start supplementaries. The Deputy PM will start his supplementaries. The Deputy PM will start his question supplementaries. The Deputy PM will start his question again, supplementaries. The Deputy PM will start his question again, preferably start his question again, preferably in start his question again, preferably in a start his question again, preferably in a question start his question again, preferably in a question form. start his question again, preferably in a question form. Addressing start his question again, preferably in a question form. Addressing the in a question form. Addressing the issue in a question form. Addressing the issue of in a question form. Addressing the issue of financial in a question form. Addressing the issue of financial investment in a question form. Addressing the issue of financial investment and issue of financial investment and value issue of financial investment and value for issue of financial investment and value for money, issue of financial investment and value for money, is issue of financial investment and value for money, is it issue of financial investment and value for money, is it a issue of financial investment and value for money, is it a fact issue of financial investment and value for money, is it a fact that value for money, is it a fact that of value for money, is it a fact that of the value for money, is it a fact that of the three value for money, is it a fact that of the three toll value for money, is it a fact that of the three toll roads value for money, is it a fact that of the three toll roads in value for money, is it a fact that of the three toll roads in this of the three toll roads in this country, of the three toll roads in this country, two of the three toll roads in this country, two are of the three toll roads in this country, two are in of the three toll roads in this country, two are in Tauranga? of the three toll roads in this country, two are in Tauranga? A country, two are in Tauranga? A point country, two are in Tauranga? A point of country, two are in Tauranga? A point of order. country, two are in Tauranga? A point of order. Addressing country, two are in Tauranga? A point of order. Addressing is country, two are in Tauranga? A point of order. Addressing is not point of order. Addressing is not starting point of order. Addressing is not starting a point of order. Addressing is not starting a question point of order. Addressing is not starting a question with point of order. Addressing is not starting a question with a point of order. Addressing is not starting a question with a question. starting a question with a question. And starting a question with a question. And I starting a question with a question. And I will starting a question with a question. And I will - starting a question with a question. And I will - if starting a question with a question. And I will - if the starting a question with a question. And I will - if the member starting a question with a question. And I will - if the member wants And I will - if the member wants know And I will - if the member wants know be And I will - if the member wants know be absolute And I will - if the member wants know be absolute in And I will - if the member wants know be absolute in my And I will - if the member wants know be absolute in my tightening And I will - if the member wants know be absolute in my tightening up know be absolute in my tightening up for know be absolute in my tightening up for all know be absolute in my tightening up for all members, know be absolute in my tightening up for all members, I'm know be absolute in my tightening up for all members, I'm willing know be absolute in my tightening up for all members, I'm willing to know be absolute in my tightening up for all members, I'm willing to take for all members, I'm willing to take that for all members, I'm willing to take for for all members, I'm willing to take that approach. Yesterday, for all members, I'm willing to take that approach. Yesterday, twice, for all members, I'm willing to take that approach. Yesterday, twice, you that approach. Yesterday, twice, you that approach. Yesterday, twice, you that approach. Yesterday, twice, you pulled the that approach. Yesterday, twice, you pulled the Leader that approach. Yesterday, twice, you pulled the Leader of that approach. Yesterday, twice, you pulled the Leader of the Opposition pulled the Leader of the Opposition up pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for exactly pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for exactly that. pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for exactly that. Now pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for exactly that. Now surely pulled the Leader of the Opposition up for exactly that. Now surely the up for exactly that. Now surely the up for exactly that. Now surely the up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM who up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM who often up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM who often touts up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM who often touts his up for exactly that. Now surely the Deputy PM who often touts his vastly Deputy PM who often touts his vastly significantly Deputy PM who often touts his vastly significantly more Deputy PM who often touts his vastly significantly more experienced Deputy PM who often touts his vastly significantly more experienced than significantly more experienced than the significantly more experienced than the Leader significantly more experienced than the Leader of significantly more experienced than the Leader of the significantly more experienced than the Leader of the Opposition significantly more experienced than the Leader of the Opposition should the Leader of the Opposition should know the Leader of the Opposition should know that. the Leader of the Opposition should know that. I the Leader of the Opposition should know that. I will the Leader of the Opposition should know that. I will rule the Leader of the Opposition should know that. I will rule that the Leader of the Opposition should know that. I will rule that question know that. I will rule that question out. know that. I will rule that question out. I'm know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure the know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure the Deputy know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure the Deputy PM know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will know that. I will rule that question out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again in out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again in the out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again in the proper out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again in the proper format. out. I'm sure the Deputy PM will ask it again in the proper format. Could it again in the proper format. Could the it again in the proper format. Could the PM it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise has it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise has to it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise has to how it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise has to how the it again in the proper format. Could the PM advise has to how the latest the PM advise has to how the latest expenditure the PM advise has to how the latest expenditure compares the PM advise has to how the latest expenditure compares with the PM advise has to how the latest expenditure compares with recent expenditure compares with recent roading expenditure compares with recent roading expenditure expenditure compares with recent roading expenditure in expenditure compares with recent roading expenditure in this expenditure compares with recent roading expenditure in this country? roading expenditure in this country? When roading expenditure in this country? When it roading expenditure in this country? When it comes roading expenditure in this country? When it comes to roading expenditure in this country? When it comes to the roading expenditure in this country? When it comes to the regions, roading expenditure in this country? When it comes to the regions, as When it comes to the regions, as When it comes to the regions, as When it comes to the regions, as I've said, When it comes to the regions, as I've said, it When it comes to the regions, as I've said, it represents When it comes to the regions, as I've said, it represents a I've said, it represents a significant I've said, it represents a significant increase I've said, it represents a significant increase when I've said, it represents a significant increase when you significant increase when you compare significant increase when you compare that significant increase when you compare that to significant increase when you compare that to Simon significant increase when you compare that to Simon Bridges's compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy as compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy as a compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy as a Transport compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy as a Transport Minister, compare that to Simon Bridges's legacy as a Transport Minister, he legacy as a Transport Minister, he legacy as a Transport Minister, he legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding to legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding to the legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding to the West legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding to the West Coast legacy as a Transport Minister, he reduced funding to the West Coast by reduced funding to the West Coast by $54 reduced funding to the West Coast by $54 million, reduced funding to the West Coast by $54 million, Taranaki reduced funding to the West Coast by $54 million, Taranaki by reduced funding to the West Coast by $54 million, Taranaki by $74 $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, Southland $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, Southland by $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, Southland by 56, $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, Southland by 56, out $54 million, Taranaki by $74 million, Southland by 56, out taco million, Southland by 56, out taco by million, Southland by 56, out taco by 110, million, Southland by 56, out taco by 110, Northland million, Southland by 56, out taco by 110, Northland by million, Southland by 56, out taco by 110, Northland by 185, million, Southland by 56, out taco by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and Bay by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and Bay of by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by by 110, Northland by 185, Hawke's Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does a Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does a $70 Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does a $70 million Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does a $70 million increase Bay by 88 and Bay of Plenty by $179. How does a $70 million increase in How does a $70 million increase in the How does a $70 million increase in the regional How does a $70 million increase in the regional improvements How does a $70 million increase in the regional improvements cat by the regional improvements cat by nationwide the regional improvements cat by nationwide or the regional improvements cat by nationwide or $5 the regional improvements cat by nationwide or $5 million the regional improvements cat by nationwide or $5 million each the regional improvements cat by nationwide or $5 million each across nationwide or $5 million each across NZTA's nationwide or $5 million each across NZTA's 14 nationwide or $5 million each across NZTA's 14 regions nationwide or $5 million each across NZTA's 14 regions in nationwide or $5 million each across NZTA's 14 regions in anyway NZTA's 14 regions in anyway compensate NZTA's 14 regions in anyway compensate for NZTA's 14 regions in anyway compensate for taking NZTA's 14 regions in anyway compensate for taking away NZTA's 14 regions in anyway compensate for taking away $5 compensate for taking away $5 billion compensate for taking away $5 billion from State Highway billion from State Highway billion from State Highway billion from State Highway construction? As billion from State Highway construction? As I billion from State Highway construction? As I will billion from State Highway construction? As I will point billion from State Highway construction? As I will point out construction? As I will point out again, construction? As I will point out again, State construction? As I will point out again, State Highway construction? As I will point out again, State Highway construction again, State Highway construction that again, State Highway construction that benefited again, State Highway construction that benefited urban again, State Highway construction that benefited urban centres again, State Highway construction that benefited urban centres and that benefited urban centres and took that benefited urban centres and took money that benefited urban centres and took money out that benefited urban centres and took money out of that benefited urban centres and took money out of the that benefited urban centres and took money out of the regions, that benefited urban centres and took money out of the regions, and took money out of the regions, and as took money out of the regions, and as I've took money out of the regions, and as I've said, took money out of the regions, and as I've said, we took money out of the regions, and as I've said, we are took money out of the regions, and as I've said, we are doubling took money out of the regions, and as I've said, we are doubling the as I've said, we are doubling the funding as I've said, we are doubling the funding to as I've said, we are doubling the funding to the as I've said, we are doubling the funding to the regions as I've said, we are doubling the funding to the regions and as I've said, we are doubling the funding to the regions and local funding to the regions and local funding to the regions and local funding to the regions and local roads. Our funding to the regions and local roads. Our focus funding to the regions and local roads. Our focus is funding to the regions and local roads. Our focus is on funding to the regions and local roads. Our focus is on access funding to the regions and local roads. Our focus is on access for roads. Our focus is on access for regional roads. Our focus is on access for regional New roads. Our focus is on access for regional New Zealanders roads. Our focus is on access for regional New Zealanders as roads. Our focus is on access for regional New Zealanders as well, regional New Zealanders as well, unlike regional New Zealanders as well, unlike the regional New Zealanders as well, unlike the abysmal regional New Zealanders as well, unlike the abysmal track regional New Zealanders as well, unlike the abysmal track record regional New Zealanders as well, unlike the abysmal track record of unlike the abysmal track record of that unlike the abysmal track record of that member unlike the abysmal track record of that member who unlike the abysmal track record of that member who cut unlike the abysmal track record of that member who cut funding unlike the abysmal track record of that member who cut funding for unlike the abysmal track record of that member who cut funding for the that member who cut funding for the regions. that member who cut funding for the regions. <APPLAUSE> regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You are regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You are not regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You are not seals. regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You are not seals. How regions. <APPLAUSE> Order! You are not seals. How will Order! You are not seals. How will announcing Order! You are not seals. How will announcing petrol Order! You are not seals. How will announcing petrol tax Order! You are not seals. How will announcing petrol tax increases Order! You are not seals. How will announcing petrol tax increases on announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland motorists announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland motorists of announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland motorists of 25 announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland motorists of 25 cents announcing petrol tax increases on Auckland motorists of 25 cents per Auckland motorists of 25 cents per Auckland motorists of 25 cents per Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in just Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in just her Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in just her first Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in just her first six Auckland motorists of 25 cents per litre in just her first six months litre in just her first six months as litre in just her first six months as PM litre in just her first six months as PM help litre in just her first six months as PM help families litre in just her first six months as PM help families supporting litre in just her first six months as PM help families supporting their as PM help families supporting their kids? as PM help families supporting their kids? Because as PM help families supporting their kids? Because if as PM help families supporting their kids? Because if they as PM help families supporting their kids? Because if they elected kids? Because if they elected kids? Because if they elected kids? Because if they elected National they kids? Because if they elected National they would kids? Because if they elected National they would be kids? Because if they elected National they would be facing kids? Because if they elected National they would be facing up kids? Because if they elected National they would be facing up to National they would be facing up to 20 National they would be facing up to 20 cents National they would be facing up to 20 cents based National they would be facing up to 20 cents based on National they would be facing up to 20 cents based on the National they would be facing up to 20 cents based on the last National they would be facing up to 20 cents based on the last advice. 20 cents based on the last advice. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> How <INTERRUPTION> How many <INTERRUPTION> How many hours <INTERRUPTION> How many hours will <INTERRUPTION> How many hours will someone <INTERRUPTION> How many hours will someone on <INTERRUPTION> How many hours will someone on the How many hours will someone on the minimum How many hours will someone on the minimum wage How many hours will someone on the minimum wage in How many hours will someone on the minimum wage in Auckland How many hours will someone on the minimum wage in Auckland have How many hours will someone on the minimum wage in Auckland have to minimum wage in Auckland have to work minimum wage in Auckland have to work in minimum wage in Auckland have to work in order minimum wage in Auckland have to work in order to minimum wage in Auckland have to work in order to come minimum wage in Auckland have to work in order to come out minimum wage in Auckland have to work in order to come out ahead work in order to come out ahead after work in order to come out ahead after they work in order to come out ahead after they have work in order to come out ahead after they have filled work in order to come out ahead after they have filled up work in order to come out ahead after they have filled up the work in order to come out ahead after they have filled up the car work in order to come out ahead after work in order to come out ahead for work in order to come out ahead for the week? A work in order to come out ahead for the week? A lot work in order to come out ahead for the week? A lot less work in order to come out ahead for the week? A lot less given work in order to come out ahead for the week? A lot less given we for the week? A lot less given we raised for the week? A lot less given we raised the for the week? A lot less given we raised the minimum for the week? A lot less given we raised the minimum wage for the week? A lot less given we raised the minimum wage to for the week? A lot less given we raised the minimum wage to $16.50 for the week? A lot less given we raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We intend raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We intend to raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We intend to raise raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We intend to raise it raised the minimum wage to $16.50 on 1 April. We intend to raise it by 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to $20. 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to $20. And, 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to $20. And, Mr 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, 1 April. We intend to raise it by 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more than 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more than 300,000 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more than 300,000 families 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more than 300,000 families will 2021 to $20. And, Mr Speaker, more than 300,000 families will on than 300,000 families will on average than 300,000 families will on average get than 300,000 families will on average get $75 than 300,000 families will on average get $75 extraer than 300,000 families will on average get $75 extraer with than 300,000 families will on average get $75 extraer with peek average get $75 extraer with peek from average get $75 extraer with peek from this average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- extra average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- extra a average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- extra a week average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- extra a week from average get $75 extraer with peek from this -- extra a week from this from this -- extra a week from this Government from this -- extra a week from this Government because from this -- extra a week from this Government because we from this -- extra a week from this Government because we are from this -- extra a week from this Government because we are focused from this -- extra a week from this Government because we are focused on Government because we are focused on lifting Government because we are focused on lifting the Government because we are focused on lifting the Waynes Government because we are focused on lifting the Waynes of Government because we are focused on lifting the Waynes of low- lifting the Waynes of low- and lifting the Waynes of low- lifting the Waynes of low- and middle-income workers. lifting the Waynes of low- and middle-income workers. What lifting the Waynes of low- and middle-income workers. What is lifting the Waynes of low- and middle-income workers. What is he lifting the Waynes of low- and middle-income workers. What is he is middle-income workers. What is he is doing middle-income workers. What is he is doing to middle-income workers. What is he is doing to help middle-income workers. What is he is doing to help families middle-income workers. What is he is doing to help families with middle-income workers. What is he is doing to help families with the middle-income workers. What is he is doing to help families with the cost doing to help families with the cost of doing to help families with the cost of living doing to help families with the cost of living given doing to help families with the cost of living given the doing to help families with the cost of living given the Government doing to help families with the cost of living given the Government has of living given the Government has made of living given the Government has made renting of living given the Government has made renting more of living given the Government has made renting more expensive of living given the Government has made renting more expensive and made renting more expensive and petrol made renting more expensive and petrol more made renting more expensive and petrol more expensive made renting more expensive and petrol more expensive and made renting more expensive and petrol more expensive and the petrol more expensive and the pre-Christmas petrol more expensive and the pre-Christmas Families petrol more expensive and the pre-Christmas Families Package's pre-Christmas Families Package's took pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a year pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a year in pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a year in tax pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a year in tax cuts pre-Christmas Families Package's took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If he took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If he is took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If he is referring took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If he is referring to took $1,000 a year in tax cuts away from them? If he is referring to the from them? If he is referring to the fact from them? If he is referring to the fact that from them? If he is referring to the fact that we from them? If he is referring to the fact that we are from them? If he is referring to the fact that we are getting from them? If he is referring to the fact that we are getting rid from them? If he is referring to the fact that we are getting rid of fact that we are getting rid of letting fact that we are getting rid of letting fees fact that we are getting rid of letting fees or fact that we are getting rid of letting fees or the fact that we are getting rid of letting fees or the fact fact that we are getting rid of letting fees or the fact that fact that we are getting rid of letting fees or the fact that we letting fees or the fact that we have letting fees or the fact that we have put letting fees or the fact that we have put $5.5 letting fees or the fact that we have put $5.5 billion letting fees or the fact that we have put $5.5 billion into letting fees or the fact that we have put $5.5 billion into low- letting fees or the fact that we have put $5.5 billion into low- and have put $5.5 billion into low- and middle-income have put $5.5 billion into low- and middle-income earners have put $5.5 billion into low- and middle-income earners pockets have put $5.5 billion into low- and middle-income earners pockets from have put $5.5 billion into low- and middle-income earners pockets from 1 middle-income earners pockets from 1 middle-income earners pockets from 1 middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or we middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or we are middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or we are bringing middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or we are bringing in middle-income earners pockets from 1 July or we are bringing in the July or we are bringing in the Winter July or we are bringing in the Winter Energy July or we are bringing in the Winter Energy Payment July or we are bringing in the Winter Energy Payment for July or we are bringing in the Winter Energy Payment for those July or we are bringing in the Winter Energy Payment for those on Winter Energy Payment for those on low Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed incomes Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed incomes or Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed incomes or the Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed incomes or the fact Winter Energy Payment for those on low fixed incomes or the fact that low fixed incomes or the fact that we low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased the low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased the minimum low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased the minimum wage low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased the minimum wage and low fixed incomes or the fact that we increased the minimum wage and we we increased the minimum wage and we did we increased the minimum wage and we did all we increased the minimum wage and we did all of we increased the minimum wage and we did all of that we increased the minimum wage and we did all of that within we increased the minimum wage and we did all of that within 100 we increased the minimum wage and we did all of that within 100 days we increased the minimum wage and we did all of that within 100 days I did all of that within 100 days I think did all of that within 100 days I think people know where did all of that within 100 days I think people know where our think people know where our priorities think people know where our priorities are think people know where our priorities are and think people know where our priorities are and they think people know where our priorities are and they are think people know where our priorities are and they are not think people know where our priorities are and they are not with priorities are and they are not with priorities are and they are not with priorities are and they are not with the top priorities are and they are not with the top 10% priorities are and they are not with the top 10% of priorities are and they are not with the top 10% of income priorities are and they are not with the top 10% of income earners. priorities are and they are not with the top 10% of income earners. How the top 10% of income earners. How does the top 10% of income earners. How does a the top 10% of income earners. How does a petrol the top 10% of income earners. How does a petrol tax the top 10% of income earners. How does a petrol tax increase the top 10% of income earners. How does a petrol tax increase square does a petrol tax increase square with does a petrol tax increase square with her does a petrol tax increase square with her Government's does a petrol tax increase square with her Government's promise to does a petrol tax increase square with her Government's promise to New with her Government's promise to New Zealanders with her Government's promise to New Zealanders to with her Government's promise to New Zealanders to not with her Government's promise to New Zealanders to not increase with her Government's promise to New Zealanders to not increase taxes Zealanders to not increase taxes this Zealanders to not increase taxes this term? Zealanders to not increase taxes this term? Labour's Zealanders to not increase taxes this term? Labour's tax Zealanders to not increase taxes this term? Labour's tax policy this term? Labour's tax policy stated this term? Labour's tax policy stated alcohol, this term? Labour's tax policy stated alcohol, Brett this term? Labour's tax policy stated alcohol, Brett roll this term? Labour's tax policy stated alcohol, Brett roll and stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco levies stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco levies will stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco levies will be stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco levies will be adjusted stated alcohol, Brett roll and tobacco levies will be adjusted as tobacco levies will be adjusted as per tobacco levies will be adjusted as per normal tobacco levies will be adjusted as per normal Government tobacco levies will be adjusted as per normal Government practice tobacco levies will be adjusted as per normal Government practice and per normal Government practice and it's per normal Government practice and it's in per normal Government practice and it's in writing. per normal Government practice and it's in writing. What per normal Government practice and it's in writing. What we per normal Government practice and it's in writing. What we said per normal Government practice and it's in writing. What we said on per normal Government practice and it's in writing. What we said on the it's in writing. What we said on the trail it's in writing. What we said on the trail was it's in writing. What we said on the trail was amongst it's in writing. What we said on the trail was amongst the it's in writing. What we said on the trail was amongst the scaremongering trail was amongst the scaremongering of trail was amongst the scaremongering of the trail was amongst the scaremongering of the National trail was amongst the scaremongering of the National Party trail was amongst the scaremongering of the National Party we trail was amongst the scaremongering of the National Party we had trail was amongst the scaremongering of the National Party we had to of the National Party we had to of the National Party we had to of the National Party we had to dismiss their of the National Party we had to dismiss their claims of the National Party we had to dismiss their claims that of the National Party we had to dismiss their claims that we of the National Party we had to dismiss their claims that we were dismiss their claims that we were bringing dismiss their claims that we were bringing in dismiss their claims that we were bringing in new dismiss their claims that we were bringing in new top dismiss their claims that we were bringing in new top tax dismiss their claims that we were bringing in new top tax rates bringing in new top tax rates bringing in new top tax rates bringing in new top tax rates because it bringing in new top tax rates because it was bringing in new top tax rates because it was clearly bringing in new top tax rates because it was clearly incorrect. because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this a because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this a broken because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this a broken promise because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this a broken promise on because it was clearly incorrect. Isn't this a broken promise on a Isn't this a broken promise on a core Isn't this a broken promise on a core election Isn't this a broken promise on a core election issue Isn't this a broken promise on a core election issue only Isn't this a broken promise on a core election issue only months core election issue only months core election issue only months core election issue only months before the core election issue only months before the election? core election issue only months before the election? <INTERRUPTION> before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I would before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I would also before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I would also point before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I would also point out before the election? <INTERRUPTION> Order! I would also point out again Order! I would also point out again that Order! I would also point out again that the Order! I would also point out again that the last Order! I would also point out again that the last Government, Order! I would also point out again that the last Government, when Order! I would also point out again that the last Government, when they that the last Government, when they left that the last Government, when they left office, that the last Government, when they left office, were that the last Government, when they left office, were considering that the last Government, when they left office, were considering a that the last Government, when they left office, were considering a 10% left office, were considering a 10% to left office, were considering a 10% to 20% left office, were considering a 10% to 20% increase left office, were considering a 10% to 20% increase in left office, were considering a 10% to 20% increase in road left office, were considering a 10% to 20% increase in road user left office, were considering a 10% to 20% increase in road user charges to 20% increase in road user charges and to 20% increase in road user charges and excise. to 20% increase in road user charges and excise. I'd to 20% increase in road user charges and excise. 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I'd say that road users are better off with this Government are better off with this Government because are better off with this Government because we are better off with this Government because we are are better off with this Government because we are spending are better off with this Government because we are spending it are better off with this Government because we are spending it more because we are spending it more wisely because we are spending it more wisely and because we are spending it more wisely and we because we are spending it more wisely and we are because we are spending it more wisely and we are spending because we are spending it more wisely and we are spending less. wisely and we are spending less. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! I <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just want <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just want to <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just want to make <INTERRUPTION> Order! I just want to make it Order! 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Question fact, any other member, is asking a question. Question No. fact, any other member, is asking a question. Question No. 4. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Transport: My question is to the Minister of Transport: Why My question is to the Minister of Transport: Why is My question is to the Minister of Transport: Why is the My question is to the Minister of Transport: Why is the Government Transport: Why is the Government proposing Transport: Why is the Government proposing to Transport: Why is the Government proposing to cut Transport: Why is the Government proposing to cut the Transport: Why is the Government proposing to cut the state Transport: Why is the Government proposing to cut the state highway proposing to cut the state highway improvement proposing to cut the state highway improvement budget proposing to cut the state highway improvement budget by proposing to cut the state highway improvement budget by two-thirds improvement budget by two-thirds over improvement budget by two-thirds over the improvement budget by two-thirds over the next improvement budget by two-thirds over the next 10 improvement budget by two-thirds over the next 10 years, improvement budget by two-thirds over the next 10 years, from improvement budget by two-thirds over the next 10 years, from a over the next 10 years, from a mid-point over the next 10 years, from a mid-point of over the next 10 years, from a mid-point of $1.375 over the next 10 years, from a mid-point of $1.375 billion over the next 10 years, from a mid-point of $1.375 billion next mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to just mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to just $425 mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to just $425 million mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to just $425 million in mid-point of $1.375 billion next year, to just $425 million in 2028? Spending Spending on Spending on new Spending on new State Spending on new State Highways Spending on new State Highways will Spending on new State Highways will gradually Spending on new State Highways will gradually be Spending on new State Highways will gradually be reallocated Spending on new State Highways will gradually be reallocated to Spending on new State Highways will gradually be reallocated to deliver gradually be reallocated to deliver gradually be reallocated to deliver gradually be reallocated to deliver significantly greater gradually be reallocated to deliver significantly greater investment gradually be reallocated to deliver significantly greater investment in significantly greater investment in regional significantly greater investment in regional roads significantly greater investment in regional roads in significantly greater investment in regional roads in local significantly greater investment in regional roads in local roads significantly greater investment in regional roads in local roads and regional roads in local roads and the regional roads in local roads and the maintenance regional roads in local roads and the maintenance of regional roads in local roads and the maintenance of State regional roads in local roads and the maintenance of State Highways the maintenance of State Highways and the maintenance of State Highways and local the maintenance of State Highways and local roads, the maintenance of State Highways and local roads, in the maintenance of State Highways and local roads, in public the maintenance of State Highways and local roads, in public transport and local roads, in public transport and and local roads, in public transport and road and local roads, in public transport and road policing, and local roads, in public transport and road policing, in and local roads, in public transport and road policing, in safe and local roads, in public transport and road policing, in safe walking and road policing, in safe walking and and road policing, in safe walking and cycling and road policing, in safe walking and cycling infrastructure and road policing, in safe walking and cycling infrastructure and and road policing, in safe walking and cycling infrastructure and in and cycling infrastructure and in the and cycling infrastructure and in the rail and cycling infrastructure and in the rail network. and cycling infrastructure and in the rail network. Funding and cycling infrastructure and in the rail network. Funding for the rail network. Funding for regional the rail network. Funding for regional and the rail network. Funding for regional and local the rail network. Funding for regional and local roads the rail network. Funding for regional and local roads and the rail network. Funding for regional and local roads and road regional and local roads and road maintenance regional and local roads and road maintenance increases regional and local roads and road maintenance increases by regional and local roads and road maintenance increases by $1.2 maintenance increases by $1.2 billion maintenance increases by $1.2 billion over maintenance increases by $1.2 billion over the maintenance increases by $1.2 billion over the next maintenance increases by $1.2 billion over the next three maintenance increases by $1.2 billion over the next three years, billion over the next three years, far billion over the next three years, far outweighing billion over the next three years, far outweighing any billion over the next three years, far outweighing any reduction billion over the next three years, far outweighing any reduction in far outweighing any reduction in State far outweighing any reduction in State Highway far outweighing any reduction in State Highway improvements. far outweighing any reduction in State Highway improvements. Instead State Highway improvements. Instead State Highway improvements. Instead State Highway improvements. Instead of spending State Highway improvements. Instead of spending billions State Highway improvements. Instead of spending billions of State Highway improvements. Instead of spending billions of dollars State Highway improvements. Instead of spending billions of dollars on State Highway improvements. Instead of spending billions of dollars on a of spending billions of dollars on a few of spending billions of dollars on a few hand of spending billions of dollars on a few hand picked of spending billions of dollars on a few hand picked stretches of spending billions of dollars on a few hand picked stretches of few hand picked stretches of motorway, few hand picked stretches of motorway, we few hand picked stretches of motorway, we are few hand picked stretches of motorway, we are investing few hand picked stretches of motorway, we are investing to motorway, we are investing to improve motorway, we are investing to improve transport motorway, we are investing to improve transport right motorway, we are investing to improve transport right across improve transport right across New improve transport right across improve transport right across New Zealand. Why improve transport right across New Zealand. Why is improve transport right across New Zealand. Why is he improve transport right across New Zealand. Why is he proposing improve transport right across New Zealand. Why is he proposing to Zealand. Why is he proposing to stall Zealand. Why is he proposing to stall new Zealand. Why is he proposing to stall new State Zealand. Why is he proposing to stall new State Highway Zealand. Why is he proposing to stall new State Highway construction stall new State Highway construction that stall new State Highway construction that delivers stall new State Highway construction that delivers improved stall new State Highway construction that delivers improved safety, stall new State Highway construction that delivers improved safety, new that delivers improved safety, new jobs that delivers improved safety, new jobs and that delivers improved safety, new jobs and boosts that delivers improved safety, new jobs and boosts regional that delivers improved safety, new jobs and boosts regional economic jobs and boosts regional economic jobs and boosts regional economic jobs and boosts regional economic development? This jobs and boosts regional economic development? This Government's jobs and boosts regional economic development? This Government's not development? This Government's not stalling development? This Government's not stalling anything development? This Government's not stalling anything but development? This Government's not stalling anything but we development? This Government's not stalling anything but we are development? This Government's not stalling anything but we are going stalling anything but we are going to stalling anything but we are going to spend stalling anything but we are going to spend the stalling anything but we are going to spend the $5 stalling anything but we are going to spend the $5 billion stalling anything but we are going to spend the $5 billion of stalling anything but we are going to spend the $5 billion of transport to spend the $5 billion of transport expenditure to spend the $5 billion of transport expenditure every to spend the $5 billion of transport expenditure every year to spend the $5 billion of transport expenditure every year more to spend the $5 billion of transport expenditure every year more wisely expenditure every year more wisely expenditure every year more wisely expenditure every year more wisely for the expenditure every year more wisely for the good expenditure every year more wisely for the good of expenditure every year more wisely for the good of all expenditure every year more wisely for the good of all New expenditure every year more wisely for the good of all New Zealanders. for the good of all New Zealanders. 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Is of State Highway in this country. Is Bernard of State Highway in this country. Is Bernard Heckie of State Highway in this country. Is Bernard Heckie wrong of State Highway in this country. Is Bernard Heckie wrong when of State Highway in this country. 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Our proposal to increase fed and Ruck is petrol taxes. Our proposal to increase fed and Ruck is at petrol taxes. 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Will he rule out regional fuel to complain about rising fuel taxes. Will he rule out regional fuel taxes Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Auckland Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Auckland or Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Auckland or will Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Auckland or will they Will he rule out regional fuel taxes outside of Auckland or will they too outside of Auckland or will they too be outside of Auckland or will they too be paying outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 cents outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 cents a outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 cents a litre outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 cents a litre more outside of Auckland or will they too be paying 25 cents a litre more for be paying 25 cents a litre more for their be paying 25 cents a litre more for their petrol be paying 25 cents a litre more for their petrol soon? be paying 25 cents a litre more for their petrol soon? 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We years of neglect, that city is a transport basket case. We are years of neglect, that city is a transport basket case. We are losing transport basket case. We are losing $1.3 transport basket case. We are losing $1.3 billion transport basket case. We are losing $1.3 billion a transport basket case. We are losing $1.3 billion a year transport basket case. We are losing $1.3 billion a year in transport basket case. 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Nothing's happening with the funding for current level? Nothing's happening with the funding for Whanau current level? Nothing's happening with the funding for Whanau Ora. current level? Nothing's happening with the funding for Whanau Ora. In with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review - with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review - I with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review - I hope with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review - I hope - with the funding for Whanau Ora. In fact, the review - I hope - will fact, the review - I hope - will actually fact, the review - I hope - will actually increase fact, the review - I hope - will actually increase it. fact, the review - I hope - will actually increase it. But fact, the review - I hope - will actually increase it. 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Zealanders drivers and passengers from this unsafe airbag. A Zealanders drivers and passengers from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has been from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has been in from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has been in place from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has been in place since from this unsafe airbag. A voluntary recall has been in place since 2013. recall has been in place since 2013. But recall has been in place since 2013. But I'm recall has been in place since 2013. But I'm not recall has been in place since 2013. But I'm not satisfied recall has been in place since 2013. But I'm not satisfied with recall has been in place since 2013. But I'm not satisfied with the But I'm not satisfied with the progress But I'm not satisfied with the progress to But I'm not satisfied with the progress to date. 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New Zealanders can be assured this New Zealanders can be assured this Government New Zealanders can be assured this passengers New Zealanders can be assured this Government is committed New Zealanders can be assured this Government is committed to New Zealanders can be assured this Government is committed to ensure Government is committed to ensure thank Government is committed to ensure thank these Government is committed to ensure thank these unsafe Government is committed to ensure thank these unsafe airbags Government is committed to ensure thank these unsafe airbags are thank these unsafe airbags are removed thank these unsafe airbags are removed and thank these unsafe airbags are removed and replaced thank these unsafe airbags are removed and replaced as thank these unsafe airbags are removed and replaced as quickly thank these unsafe airbags are removed and replaced as quickly as removed and replaced as quickly as possible. removed and replaced as quickly as possible. 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Ill like to acknowledge the efforts of new vehicle industry. 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Making replacement of airbags was undertaken at their cost. Making the undertaken at their cost. Making the recall undertaken at their cost. Making the recall compulsory undertaken at their cost. Making the recall compulsory will undertaken at their cost. Making the recall compulsory will provide recall compulsory will provide guidance recall compulsory will provide the recall compulsory will provide guidance to suppliers recall compulsory will provide guidance to suppliers of recall compulsory will provide guidance to suppliers of both recall compulsory will provide guidance to suppliers of both new guidance to suppliers of both new and guidance to suppliers of both new and used guidance to suppliers of both new and used vehicles, guidance to suppliers of both new and used vehicles, so guidance to suppliers of both new and used vehicles, so that and used vehicles, so that replacement and used vehicles, so that and and used vehicles, so that replacement airbags can and used vehicles, so that replacement airbags can be and used vehicles, so that replacement airbags can be sourced replacement airbags can be sourced and replacement airbags can be sourced and installed replacement airbags can be sourced and installed as replacement airbags can be sourced and installed as quickly replacement airbags can be sourced and installed as quickly as and installed as quickly as possible. and installed as quickly as possible. 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Consumers can rest assured that if the vehicle is effected, that if the vehicle is effected, they that if the vehicle is effected, they can that if the vehicle is effected, they can seek that if the vehicle is effected, they can seek replacement that if the vehicle is effected, they can seek replacement airbags that if the vehicle is effected, they can seek replacement airbags at they can seek replacement airbags at no they can seek replacement airbags at no cost they can seek replacement airbags at no cost to they can seek replacement airbags at no cost to them. they can seek replacement airbags at no cost to them. I they can seek replacement airbags at no cost to them. I encourage they can seek replacement airbags at no cost to them. I encourage vehicle no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners to no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners to find no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners to find out no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners to find out more no cost to them. I encourage vehicle owners to find out more information owners to find out more information and owners to find out more information and to owners to find out more information and to check owners to find out more information and to check the owners to find out more information and to check the status owners to find out more information and to check the status of owners to find out more information and to check the status of their owners to find out more information and to check the status of their air and to check the status of their air beings and to check the status of their air beings at and to check the status of their air beings at the and to check the status of their air beings at the website beings at the website recalls.gov.nz. beings at the website recalls.gov.nz. In beings at the website recalls.gov.nz. In order beings at the website recalls.gov.nz. In order to beings at the website recalls.gov.nz. 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Why provide monthly reporting on the progress of the recall. Why is provide monthly reporting on the progress of the recall. Why is the progress of the recall. Why is the Minister progress of the recall. Why is the Minister taking progress of the recall. Why is the Minister taking action progress of the recall. Why is the Minister taking action now progress of the recall. Why is the Minister taking action now given Minister taking action now given reports Minister taking action now given reports of Minister taking action now given reports of issues Minister taking action now given reports of issues with Minister taking action now given reports of issues with faulty reports of issues with faulty airbags reports of issues with faulty airbags dating reports of issues with faulty airbags dating back reports of issues with faulty airbags dating back to reports of issues with faulty airbags dating back to 2013? reports of issues with faulty airbags dating back to 2013? . reports of issues with faulty airbags dating back to 2013? . Point airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of order. airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of order. Very airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of order. Very carefully. airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of order. Very carefully. Upon airbags dating back to 2013? . Point of order. 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Upon first learning of the seriousness of the learning of the seriousness of the issue, learning of the seriousness of the issue, the learning of the seriousness of the issue, the Associate learning of the seriousness of the issue, the Associate Minister learning of the seriousness of the issue, the Associate Minister Julie issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne Genter issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne Genter and issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne Genter and I issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne Genter and I commissioned issue, the Associate Minister Julie Anne Genter and I commissioned an Anne Genter and I commissioned an urgent Anne Genter and I commissioned an urgent report. Anne Genter and I commissioned an urgent report. Follying Anne Genter and I commissioned an urgent report. Follying the urgent report. Follying the compulsory urgent report. Follying the issue, urgent report. Follying the compulsory recall in urgent report. Follying the compulsory recall in Australia urgent report. 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This most appropriate action. This Government most appropriate action. This Government inherited most appropriate action. This Government inherited a most appropriate action. This Government inherited a situation Government inherited a situation where Government inherited a situation where 50,000 Government inherited a situation where 50,000 vehicles Government inherited a situation where 50,000 vehicles being Government inherited a situation where 50,000 vehicles being used where 50,000 vehicles being used every where 50,000 vehicles being used every debut where 50,000 vehicles being used every debut New where 50,000 vehicles being used every debut New Zealanders where 50,000 vehicles being used every debut New Zealanders were every debut New Zealanders were exposed every debut New Zealanders were exposed to every debut New Zealanders were exposed to a every debut New Zealanders were exposed to a significant every debut New Zealanders were exposed to a significant safety exposed to a significant safety risk. exposed to a significant safety exposed exposed to a significant safety risk. This Government exposed to a significant safety risk. This Government will exposed to a significant safety risk. This Government will not exposed to a significant safety risk. This Government will not allow risk. This Government will not allow this risk. This Government will not allow this issue risk. This Government will not allow this issue to risk. This Government will not allow this issue to go risk. This Government will not allow this issue to go unaddressed risk. This Government will not allow this issue to go unaddressed and this issue to go unaddressed and risk this issue to go unaddressed and risk the this issue to go unaddressed and risk the safety this issue to go unaddressed and risk the safety of this issue to go unaddressed and risk the safety of New this issue to go unaddressed and risk the safety of New Zealanders. risk the safety of New Zealanders. No risk the safety of New Zealanders. No further risk the safety of New Zealanders. No further supplementaries? risk the safety of New Zealanders. No further supplementaries? That No further supplementaries? That concludes No further supplementaries? That exposed No further supplementaries? That concludes Oral Questions. No further supplementaries? That concludes Oral Questions. We No further supplementaries? That concludes Oral Questions. We now concludes Oral Questions. We now come concludes Oral Questions. We now come to concludes Oral Questions. We now come to the concludes Oral Questions. We now come to the general concludes Oral Questions. We now come to the general debate. concludes Oral Questions. We now come to the general debate. Would come to the general debate. Would some come to the general debate. Would some honourable come to the general debate. Would some honourable member come to the general debate. Would some honourable member care come to the general debate. Would some honourable member care to come to the general debate. Would some honourable member care to move some honourable member care to move concludes some honourable member care to move the House take