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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings Almighty God, of Almighty God, which have been Almighty God, which have been bestowed Almighty God, which have been bestowed on Almighty God, which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. A A point A point of A point of order. A point of order. Next A point of order. Next week A point of order. Next week the A point of order. Next week the annual A point of order. Next week the annual review A point of order. Next week the annual review debate A point of order. Next week the annual review debate will A point of order. Next week the annual review debate will continue. annual review debate will continue. The annual review debate will continue. The House annual review debate will continue. The House will annual review debate will continue. The House will consider annual review debate will continue. The House will consider the annual review debate will continue. The House will consider the first The House will consider the first readings The House will consider the first readings of The House will consider the first readings of the The House will consider the first readings of the Coroners The House will consider the first readings of the Coroners (Access readings of the Coroners (Access to readings of the Coroners (Access readings of the Coroners (Access to Body of readings of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead readings of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) readings of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment readings of the Coroners (Access to Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, the privacy Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, the privacy bill, Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, the privacy bill, the Body of Dead Person) Amendment Bill, the privacy bill, the local the privacy bill, the local Government the privacy bill, the local Government community the privacy bill, the local Government community wellbeing Government community wellbeing amendment Government community wellbeing amendment bill. Government community wellbeing amendment bill. The Government community wellbeing amendment bill. The Hon Government community wellbeing amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan Coleman amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan Coleman will amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan Coleman will make amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan Coleman will make his amendment bill. The Hon Jonathan Coleman will make his valedictory Coleman will make his valedictory statement Coleman will make his valedictory statement at Coleman will make his valedictory statement at 5:40pm Coleman will make his valedictory statement at 5:40pm on Coleman will make his valedictory statement at 5:40pm on 11 Coleman will make his valedictory statement at 5:40pm on 11 April Coleman will make his valedictory statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday 12 statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday 12 April statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday 12 April the statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday 12 April the House statement at 5:40pm on 11 April and on Thursday 12 April the House will on Thursday 12 April the House will on Thursday 12 April the House will on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until Tuesday on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until Tuesday 1 on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The on Thursday 12 April the House will adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Thank adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Thank you adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to adjourn until Tuesday 1 May. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader of Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader of the Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader of the House. Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader of the House. Does Gerry Brownlee. Thank you to the Leader of the House. Does he Leader of the House. Does he anticipate Leader of the House. Does he anticipate the Leader of the House. Does he anticipate the financial Leader of the House. Does he anticipate the financial review anticipate the financial review debate anticipate the financial review debate will anticipate the financial review debate will conclude anticipate the financial review debate will conclude next anticipate the financial review debate will conclude next week anticipate the financial review debate will conclude next week or debate will conclude next week or will debate will conclude next week or will it debate will conclude next week or will it run debate will conclude next week or will it run beyond debate will conclude next week or will it run beyond the debate will conclude next week or will it run beyond the recess? debate will conclude next week or will it run beyond the recess? Has will it run beyond the recess? Has will it run beyond the recess? Has will it run beyond the recess? Has he considered will it run beyond the recess? Has he considered - will it run beyond the recess? Has he considered - would will it run beyond the recess? Has he considered - would he will it run beyond the recess? Has he considered - would he consider he considered - would he consider moving he considered - would he consider moving item he considered - would he consider moving item number he considered - would he consider moving item number 20 he considered - would he consider moving item number 20 on he considered - would he consider moving item number 20 on the he considered - would he consider moving item number 20 on the Order moving item number 20 on the Order moving item number 20 on the Order moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up so moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up so that moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up so that it moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up so that it might moving item number 20 on the Order Paper further up so that it might be Paper further up so that it might be dealt Paper further up so that it might be dealt with Paper further up so that it might be dealt with in Paper further up so that it might be dealt with in an Paper further up so that it might be dealt with in an expeditious Paper further up so that it might be dealt with in an expeditious manner? In In answer In answer to In answer to the In answer to the last In answer to the last part In answer to the last part of In answer to the last part of the In answer to the last part of the question, In answer to the last part of the question, no. In answer to the last part of the question, no. In In answer to the last part of the question, no. In answer In answer to the last part of the question, no. In answer to In answer to the last part of the question, no. In answer to the In answer to the last part of the question, no. In answer to the first question, no. In answer to the first question, question, no. In answer to the first question, that question, no. In answer to the first question, that depends question, no. In answer to the first question, that depends on question, no. In answer to the first question, that depends on progress question, that depends on progress on question, that depends on progress on other question, that depends on progress on other matters. question, that depends on progress on other matters. No question, that depends on progress on other matters. No petition, on other matters. No petition, papers on other matters. No petition, papers or on other matters. No petition, papers or select on other matters. No petition, papers or select committee on other matters. No petition, papers or select committee reports papers or select committee reports have papers or select committee reports have been papers or select committee reports have been delivered papers or select committee reports have been delivered to papers or select committee reports have been delivered to the papers or select committee reports have been delivered to the Clerk papers or select committee reports have been delivered to the Clerk for have been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. The The Clerk The Clerk has The Clerk has been The Clerk has been informed The Clerk has been informed of The Clerk has been informed of the The Clerk has been informed of the introduction The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of The Clerk has been informed of the introduction of bills. of the introduction of bills. Crown of the introduction of bills. Crown Minerals of the introduction of bills. Crown Minerals Amendment of the introduction of bills. Crown Minerals Amendment Bill of the introduction of bills. Crown Minerals Amendment Bill - Crown Minerals Amendment Bill - introduction. introduction. Local introduction. Local Government introduction. Local Government (Community Local Government (Community Well-being) Local Government (Community Well-being) Amendment Local Government (Community Well-being) Amendment Bill Local Government (Community Well-being) Amendment Bill - Well-being) Amendment Bill - introduction. introduction. Local introduction. Local Government introduction. Local Government Electoral introduction. Local Government Electoral Matters Local Government Electoral Matters Bill Local Government Electoral Matters Bill - Local Government Electoral Matters Bill - introduction. Bill - introduction. Patents Bill - introduction. Patents (Advancement Bill - introduction. Patents (Advancement Patents) Patents (Advancement Patents) Amendment Patents (Advancement Patents) Amendment Bill Patents (Advancement Patents) Amendment Bill - Patents (Advancement Patents) Amendment Bill - introduction. Amendment Bill - introduction. Companies Amendment Bill - introduction. Companies (Clarification Amendment Bill - introduction. Companies (Clarification of Amendment Bill - introduction. Companies (Clarification of Dividend Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules in Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules in Companies) Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules in Companies) Amendment Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules in Companies) Amendment Bill Companies (Clarification of Dividend Rules in Companies) Amendment Bill - Rules in Companies) Amendment Bill - introducion. introducion. KiwiSaver introducion. KiwiSaver (Foster introducion. KiwiSaver (Foster Parents introducion. KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting introducion. KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for Children KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for Children in KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for Children in Their KiwiSaver (Foster Parents Opting in for Children in Their Care) for Children in Their Care) Amendment for Children in Their Care) Amendment Bill for Children in Their Care) Amendment Bill - for Children in Their Care) Amendment Bill - introduction. Amendment Bill - introduction. Those Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills are Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills are set Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills are set down Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills are set down for Amendment Bill - introduction. Those bills are set down for first Those bills are set down for first reading. reading. The reading. The House reading. The House comes reading. The House comes to reading. The House comes to Oral reading. The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all her Minister: Does she stand by all her statements Minister: Does she stand by all her statements and Minister: Does she stand by all her statements and actions? The The Rt The Rt Hon The Rt Hon Winston The Rt Hon Winston Peters. The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, in The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, in their The Rt Hon Winston Peters. On behalf of the PM, yes, in their context. of the PM, yes, in their context. Does of the PM, yes, in their context. Does she of the PM, yes, in their context. Does she stand of the PM, yes, in their context. Does she stand by of the PM, yes, in their context. Does she stand by her of the PM, yes, in their context. Does she stand by her statement Does she stand by her statement regarding Does she stand by her statement regarding Clare Does she stand by her statement regarding Clare Curran's Does she stand by her statement regarding Clare Curran's phone Does she stand by her statement regarding Clare Curran's phone call regarding Clare Curran's phone call to regarding Clare Curran's phone call to Richard regarding Clare Curran's phone call to Richard Griffin regarding Clare Curran's phone call to Richard Griffin on regarding Clare Curran's phone call to Richard Griffin on Thursday regarding Clare Curran's phone call to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, "She to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, "She left to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, "She left a to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, "She left a message to Richard Griffin on Thursday 29 March that, "She left a message with March that, "She left a message with the March that, "She left a message with the chair March that, "She left a message with the chair around March that, "She left a message with the chair around the March that, "She left a message with the chair around the possibility March that, "She left a message with the chair around the possibility of the chair around the possibility of correcting the chair around the possibility of correcting the the chair around the possibility of correcting the record the chair around the possibility of correcting the record in the chair around the possibility of correcting the record in writing" correcting the record in writing" and correcting the record in writing" and the correcting the record in writing" and the premise correcting the record in writing" and the premise being correcting the record in writing" and the premise being that correcting the record in writing" and the premise being that she and the premise being that she wanted and the premise being that she wanted to and the premise being that she wanted to correct and the premise being that she wanted to correct the and the premise being that she wanted to correct the record and the premise being that she wanted to correct the record as and the premise being that she wanted to correct the record as soon wanted to correct the record as soon as wanted to correct the record as soon as possible? wanted to correct the record as soon as possible? Yes. wanted to correct the record as soon as possible? Yes. Does wanted to correct the record as soon as possible? Yes. Does she wanted to correct the record as soon as possible? Yes. Does she agree as possible? Yes. Does she agree with as possible? Yes. Does she agree with the as possible? Yes. Does she agree with the statements as possible? Yes. Does she agree with the statements made as possible? Yes. Does she agree with the statements made by as possible? Yes. Does she agree with the statements made by Richard with the statements made by Richard Griffin with the statements made by Richard Griffin in with the statements made by Richard Griffin in select with the statements made by Richard Griffin in select committee with the statements made by Richard Griffin in select committee today Griffin in select committee today that Griffin in select committee today that the Griffin in select committee today that the minister Griffin in select committee today that the minister seemed Griffin in select committee today that the minister seemed to Griffin in select committee today that the minister seemed to be that the minister seemed to be labouring that the minister seemed to be labouring under that the minister seemed to be labouring under the that the minister seemed to be labouring under the impression that the minister seemed to be labouring under the impression at labouring under the impression at the labouring under the impression at the time labouring under the impression at the time she labouring under the impression at the time she left labouring under the impression at the time she left the labouring under the impression at the time she left the message labouring under the impression at the time she left the message that the time she left the message that we the time she left the message that we were the time she left the message that we were to the time she left the message that we were to appear the time she left the message that we were to appear that the time she left the message that we were to appear that afternoon the time she left the message that we were to appear that afternoon and we were to appear that afternoon and that we were to appear that afternoon and that she we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted me we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted me to we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted me to write we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted me to write a we were to appear that afternoon and that she wanted me to write a letter that she wanted me to write a letter to that she wanted me to write a letter to the that she wanted me to write a letter to the chair that she wanted me to write a letter to the chair of that she wanted me to write a letter to the chair of the that she wanted me to write a letter to the chair of the select that she wanted me to write a letter to the chair of the select committee to the chair of the select committee that to the chair of the select committee that would to the chair of the select committee that would enthen to the chair of the select committee that would enthen ensure to the chair of the select committee that would enthen ensure there to the chair of the select committee that would enthen ensure there was that would enthen ensure there was ant that would enthen ensure there was ant public that would enthen ensure there was ant public hearing? that would enthen ensure there was ant public hearing? First that would enthen ensure there was ant public hearing? First of that would enthen ensure there was ant public hearing? First of all, that would enthen ensure there was ant public hearing? First of all, Mr ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin is ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin is a ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin is a very, ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin is a very, very ant public hearing? First of all, Mr Griffin is a very, very experienced Griffin is a very, very experienced civil Griffin is a very, very experienced civil servant. Griffin is a very, very experienced civil servant. So Griffin is a very, very experienced civil servant. So talented Griffin is a very, very experienced civil servant. So talented that Griffin is a very, very experienced civil servant. So talented that he civil servant. So talented that he was, civil servant. So talented that he was, when civil servant. So talented that he was, when he civil servant. So talented that he was, when he was civil servant. So talented that he was, when he was serving civil servant. So talented that he was, when he was serving a civil servant. So talented that he was, when he was serving a former was, when he was serving a former National was, when he was serving a former National Party was, when he was serving a former National Party PM, was, when he was serving a former National Party PM, mistaken was, when he was serving a former National Party PM, mistaken for National Party PM, mistaken for National Party PM, mistaken for National Party PM, mistaken for being the National Party PM, mistaken for being the PM. National Party PM, mistaken for being the PM. As National Party PM, mistaken for being the PM. As for National Party PM, mistaken for being the PM. As for not National Party PM, mistaken for being the PM. As for not answering being the PM. As for not answering his being the PM. As for not answering his phone being the PM. As for not answering his phone I being the PM. As for not answering his phone I can being the PM. As for not answering his phone I can vouch being the PM. As for not answering his phone I can vouch for being the PM. As for not answering his phone I can vouch for the being the PM. As for not answering his phone I can vouch for the fact his phone I can vouch for the fact that his phone I can vouch for the fact that he his phone I can vouch for the fact that he would his phone I can vouch for the fact that he would not his phone I can vouch for the fact that he would not answer his phone I can vouch for the fact that he would not answer his his phone I can vouch for the fact that he would not answer his phone, that he would not answer his phone, it that he would not answer his phone, it was that he would not answer his phone, it was more that he would not answer his phone, it was more common that he would not answer his phone, it was more common than that he would not answer his phone, it was more common than not. that he would not answer his phone, it was more common than not. When that he would not answer his phone, it was more common than not. When he it was more common than not. When he uses it was more common than not. When he uses the it was more common than not. When he uses the words it was more common than not. When he uses the words "seem it was more common than not. When he uses the words "seem to it was more common than not. When he uses the words "seem to be" it was more common than not. When he uses the words "seem to be" that uses the words "seem to be" that means uses the words "seem to be" that means that uses the words "seem to be" that means that it uses the words "seem to be" that means that it is uses the words "seem to be" that means that it is his uses the words "seem to be" that means that it is his impression uses the words "seem to be" that means that it is his impression but means that it is his impression but it means that it is his impression but it may means that it is his impression but it may not means that it is his impression but it may not be means that it is his impression but it may not be a means that it is his impression but it may not be a fact. means that it is his impression but it may not be a fact. Does means that it is his impression but it may not be a fact. Does she means that it is his impression but it may not be a fact. Does she still it may not be a fact. Does she still stand it may not be a fact. Does she still it it may not be a fact. Does she still stand by her it may not be a fact. Does she still stand by her statement it may not be a fact. Does she still stand by her statement that it may not be a fact. Does she still stand by her statement that Clare stand by her statement that Clare Curran stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought to stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought to contact stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought to contact Radio stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought to contact Radio NZ stand by her statement that Clare Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find an Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find an alternative Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find an alternative so Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find an alternative so that Curran sought to contact Radio NZ to find an alternative so that they find an alternative so that they could find an alternative so that they could correct find an alternative so that they could correct the find an alternative so that they could correct the record find an alternative so that they could correct the record immediately could correct the record immediately in could correct the record immediately in light could correct the record immediately in light of could correct the record immediately in light of Richard could correct the record immediately in light of Richard Griffin's in light of Richard Griffin's statement in light of Richard Griffin's statement today in light of Richard Griffin's statement today that in light of Richard Griffin's statement today that she in light of Richard Griffin's statement today that she wanted in light of Richard Griffin's statement today that she wanted him statement today that she wanted him to statement today that she wanted him to write statement today that she wanted him to write a statement today that she wanted him to write a letter statement today that she wanted him to write a letter to statement today that she wanted him to write a letter to the statement today that she wanted him to write a letter to the chair statement today that she wanted him to write a letter to the chair of to write a letter to the chair of the to write a letter to the chair of the select to write a letter to the chair of the select committee to write a letter to the chair of the select committee which to write a letter to the chair of the select committee which would the select committee which would ensure the select committee which would ensure that the select committee which would ensure that there the select committee which would ensure that there wasn't the select committee which would ensure that there wasn't a the select committee which would ensure that there wasn't a public ensure that there wasn't a public hearing? ensure that there wasn't a public hearing? 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The most efficient way of handling the matter, and in the most handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian issue handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian issue time handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian issue time would handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian issue time would be handling the matter, and in the most ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- edpedestrian issue ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- edpedestrian issue time ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- edpedestrian issue time would ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- edpedestrian issue time would be ex-pedestrian issue time would be -- edpedestrian issue time would be to edpedestrian issue time would be to write edpedestrian issue time would be to write a edpedestrian issue time would be to write a letter edpedestrian issue time would be to write a letter rather edpedestrian issue time would be to write a letter rather than edpedestrian issue time would be to write a letter rather than waste write a letter rather than waste everybody's write a letter rather than waste everybody's time write a letter rather than waste everybody's time turning write a letter rather than waste everybody's time turning up write a letter rather than waste everybody's time turning up to write a letter rather than waste everybody's time turning up to a everybody's time turning up to a hearing. everybody's time turning up to a hearing. 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Does it appear to her that the reason Clare appear to her that the reason Clare Curran appear to her that the reason Clare Curran wanted appear to her that the reason Clare Curran wanted to appear to her that the reason Clare Curran wanted to have appear to her that the reason Clare Curran wanted to have the appear to her that the reason Clare Curran wanted to have the record Curran wanted to have the record corrected Curran wanted to have the record corrected on Curran wanted to have the record corrected on the Curran wanted to have the record corrected on the Thursday Curran wanted to have the record corrected on the Thursday RNZ Curran wanted to have the record corrected on the Thursday RNZ was corrected on the Thursday RNZ was corrected on the Thursday RNZ was corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear was corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear was not corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear was not about corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear was not about it corrected on the Thursday RNZ was due to appear was not about it doing due to appear was not about it doing it due to appear was not about it doing it as due to appear was not about it doing it as quickly due to appear was not about it doing it as quickly as due to appear was not about it doing it as quickly as possible, due to appear was not about it doing it as quickly as possible, but due to appear was not about it doing it as quickly as possible, but to it as quickly as possible, but to ensure it as quickly as possible, but to ensure that it as quickly as possible, but to ensure that there it as quickly as possible, but to ensure that there wasn't it as quickly as possible, but to ensure that there wasn't a it as quickly as possible, but to ensure that there wasn't a public ensure that there wasn't a public hearing ensure that there wasn't a public hearing on ensure that there wasn't a public hearing on the ensure that there wasn't a public hearing on the matter? ensure that there wasn't a public hearing on the matter? 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Has the PM sought an assurance from Clare sought an assurance from Clare Curran sought an assurance from Clare Curran that sought an assurance from Clare Curran that the sought an assurance from Clare Curran that the she sought an assurance from Clare Curran that the she never sought an assurance from Clare Curran that the she never settinged Curran that the she never settinged to Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Griffin Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Griffin that Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Griffin that he Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Griffin that he should Curran that the she never settinged to Mr Griffin that he should not to Mr Griffin that he should not appear to Mr Griffin that he should not to to Mr Griffin that he should not appear before the to Mr Griffin that he should not appear before the select to Mr Griffin that he should not appear before the select committee appear before the select committee in appear before the select committee in person appear before the select committee in person given appear before the select committee in person given Mr appear before the select committee in person given Mr Griffin's in person given Mr Griffin's understanding in person given Mr Griffin's understanding of in person given Mr Griffin's understanding of the in person given Mr Griffin's understanding of the message in person given Mr Griffin's understanding of the message he understanding of the message he received? understanding of the message he received? 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It is a Thursday and where's your man? Where's It is a Thursday and where's your man? Where's your It is a Thursday and where's your man? Where's your man? It is a Thursday and where's your man? Where's your man? Order! It is a Thursday and where's your man? Where's your man? Order! She man? Where's your man? Order! She started man? Where's your man? Order! She started it, man? Where's your man? Order! She started it, Mr started it, Mr Speaker. started it, Mr <INTERRUPTION> A <INTERRUPTION> A point <INTERRUPTION> A point of <INTERRUPTION> A point of order. <INTERRUPTION> A point of order. I'm <INTERRUPTION> A point of order. I'm asking <INTERRUPTION> A point of order. I'm asking the A point of order. I'm asking the Government A point of order. I'm asking the Government backbenchers A point of order. I'm asking the Government backbenchers to A point of order. I'm asking the Government backbenchers to be A point of order. I'm asking the Government backbenchers to be quiet. Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Hon Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Hon Gerry Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two Government backbenchers to be quiet. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. First, The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. First, the The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. First, the Deputy The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. First, the Deputy PM The Hon Gerry Brownlee. Two points of order. First, the Deputy PM is of order. First, the Deputy PM is answering of order. First, the Deputy PM is answering in of order. First, the Deputy PM is answering in the of order. First, the Deputy PM is answering in the House of order. 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So simply saying that she is not So simply saying that she is not available So simply saying that she is not available is So simply saying that she is not available is not So simply saying that she is not available is not a So simply saying that she is not available is not a way So simply saying that she is not available is not a way of So simply saying that she is not available is not a way of answering. available is not a way of answering. Saying, available is not a way of answering. Saying, "I available is not a way of answering. Saying, "I am available is not a way of answering. Saying, "I am unable available is not a way of answering. Saying, "I am unable to available is not a way of answering. Saying, "I am unable to answer available is not a way of answering. 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The second Point of order. No, we will finish this one first. The second one, Point of order. No, we will finish this one first. The second one, of this one first. The second one, of course, this one first. The second one, of course, is this one first. The second one, of course, is referring this one first. The second one, of course, is referring to this one first. The second one, of course, is referring to member's course, is referring to member's absences course, is referring to member's absences is course, is referring to member's absences is inappropriate. course, is referring to member's absences is inappropriate. While course, is referring to member's absences is inappropriate. While I'm absences is inappropriate. While I'm on absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my feet, absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my feet, I absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my feet, I do absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my feet, I do think absences is inappropriate. While I'm on my feet, I do think the on my feet, I do think the gratuitous on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick at on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick at the on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick at the end on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick at the end of on my feet, I do think the gratuitous flick at the end of the gratuitous flick at the end of the previous gratuitous flick at the end of the previous question gratuitous flick at the end of the previous question was gratuitous flick at the end of the previous question was quite gratuitous flick at the end of the previous question was quite out gratuitous flick at the end of the previous question was quite out of previous question was quite out of order. previous question was quite out of order. No, previous question was quite out of order. No, no previous question was quite out of order. No, no - previous question was quite out of order. No, no - OK. previous question was quite out of order. No, no - OK. I previous question was quite out of order. No, no - OK. I dealt previous question was quite out of order. No, no - OK. I dealt with previous question was quite out of order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third matter order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third matter already. order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third matter already. Going order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third matter already. Going to order. No, no - OK. I dealt with the third matter already. Going to the third matter already. Going to the other third matter already. Going to the other matters, third matter already. Going to the other matters, it third matter already. Going to the other matters, it was third matter already. Going to the other matters, it was not third matter already. Going to the other matters, it was not helpful other matters, it was not helpful that other matters, it was not helpful that the other matters, it was not helpful that the Deputy other matters, it was not helpful that the Deputy PM other matters, it was not helpful that the Deputy PM answering other matters, it was not helpful that the Deputy PM answering for other matters, it was not helpful that the Deputy PM answering for the that the Deputy PM answering for the PM that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew attention that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew attention the that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew attention the absence that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew attention the absence of that the Deputy PM answering for the PM drew attention the absence of a PM drew attention the absence of a particular PM drew attention the absence of a particular member PM drew attention the absence of a particular member but PM drew attention the absence of a particular member but I PM drew attention the absence of a particular member but I must PM drew attention the absence of a particular member but I must say, PM drew attention the absence of a particular member but I must say, it particular member but I must say, it was particular member but I must say, it was very particular member but I must say, it was very much particular member but I must say, it was very much in particular member but I must say, it was very much in response particular member but I must say, it was very much in response to particular member but I must say, it was very much in response to some was very much in response to some interjections was very much in response to some interjections from was very much in response to some interjections from the was very much in response to some interjections from the other was very much in response to some interjections from the other side was very much in response to some interjections from the other side as interjections from the other side as to interjections from the other side as to the interjections from the other side as to the absence interjections from the other side as to the absence of interjections from the other side as to the absence of the interjections from the other side as to the absence of the member interjections from the other side as to the absence of the member he interjections from the other side as to the absence of the member he was to the absence of the member he was referring to the absence of the member he was referring to. to the absence of the member he was referring to. 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I helpful which flow on to others. I think helpful which flow on to others. I think what helpful which flow on to others. I think what we'll helpful which flow on to others. I think what we'll say helpful which flow on to others. I think what we'll say here helpful which flow on to others. I think what we'll say here is helpful which flow on to others. I think what we'll say here is that think what we'll say here is that there's think what we'll say here is that there's been think what we'll say here is that there's been naughtiness think what we'll say here is that there's been naughtiness all think what we'll say here is that there's been naughtiness all round there's been naughtiness all round and there's been naughtiness all round and we there's been naughtiness all round and we will there's been naughtiness all round and we will go there's been naughtiness all round and we will go back there's been naughtiness all round and we will go back to there's been naughtiness all round and we will go back to Paula there's been naughtiness all round and we will go back to Paula Bennett and we will go back to Paula Bennett for and we will go back to Paula Bennett there's and we will go back to Paula Bennett for a further and we will go back to Paula Bennett for a further supplementary. and we will go back to Paula Bennett for a further supplementary. 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I will apologise about forgetting about one. I will remind apologise about forgetting about one. I will remind the apologise about forgetting about one. I will remind the Deputy apologise about forgetting about one. I will remind the Deputy PM one. I will remind the Deputy PM that one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is acting one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is acting for one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is acting for the one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is acting for the PM one. I will remind the Deputy PM that when he is acting for the PM he that when he is acting for the PM he that that when he is acting for the PM he should use the that when he is acting for the PM he should use the first that when he is acting for the PM he should use the first person that when he is acting for the PM he should use the first person in that when he is acting for the PM he should use the first person in his should use the first person in his when should use the first person in his when he should use the first person in his when he -- should use the first person in his when he -- answers should use the first person in his when he -- answers when should use the first person in his when he -- answers when he should use the first person in his when he -- answers when he is when he -- answers when he is answering when he -- answers when he is answering in when he -- answers when he is answering in that when he -- answers when he is answering in that way. when he -- answers when he is answering in that way. 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In light of the select committee now light of the select committee now asking light of the select committee now asking that light of the select committee now asking that is light of the select committee now asking that is recording light of the select committee now asking that is recording of light of the select committee now asking that is recording of that asking that is recording of that voice asking that is recording of that voice message asking that is recording of that voice message be asking that is recording of that voice message be made asking that is recording of that voice message be made public asking that is recording of that voice message be made public to voice message be made public to them, voice message be made public to them, if voice message be made public to them, if that voice message be made public to them, if that contradicts voice message be made public to them, if that contradicts the them, if that contradicts the statements them, if that contradicts the statements of them, if that contradicts the statements of Clare them, if that contradicts the statements of Clare Curran, them, if that contradicts the statements of Clare Curran, does them, if that contradicts the statements of Clare Curran, does he statements of Clare Curran, does he expect statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will stay statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will stay in statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will stay in the statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will stay in the job? statements of Clare Curran, does he expect she will stay in the job? We expect she will stay in the job? We don't expect she will stay in the job? We don't deal expect she will stay in the job? We don't deal in expect she will stay in the job? We don't deal in hypotheticals. expect she will stay in the job? We don't deal in hypotheticals. We expect she will stay in the job? We don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal with don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal with facts. don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal with facts. Question don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal with facts. Question No. don't deal in hypotheticals. We deal with facts. Question No. 2. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Children: My question is to the Minister for Children: What My question is to the Minister for Children: What progress My question is to the Minister for Children: What progress has My question is to the Minister for Children: What progress has Oranga Children: What progress has Oranga Tamariki Children: What progress has Oranga Tamariki - Children: What progress has Oranga Tamariki - Ministry Children: What progress has Oranga Tamariki - Ministry for Children: What progress has Oranga Tamariki - Ministry for Children Tamariki - Ministry for Children made Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in its Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in its first Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in its first year Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in its first year of Tamariki - Ministry for Children made in its first year of existence? Kia Kia Ora. Kia Ora. Oranga Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about getting Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about getting the Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about getting the ministry Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about getting the ministry set Kia Ora. Oranga Tamariki has been about getting the ministry set up, about getting the ministry set up, building about getting the ministry set up, building its about getting the ministry set up, building its capacity about getting the ministry set up, building its capacity and about getting the ministry set up, building its capacity and improving building its capacity and improving its building its capacity and improving its core building its capacity and improving its core services. building its capacity and improving its core services. It building its capacity and improving its core services. It has building its capacity and improving its core services. It has 160 building its capacity and improving its core services. It has 160 more its core services. It has 160 more social its core services. It has 160 more social worker, its core services. It has 160 more social worker, 150 its core services. It has 160 more social worker, 150 more its core services. It has 160 more social worker, 150 more carers. its core services. It has 160 more social worker, 150 more carers. We social worker, 150 more carers. We have social worker, 150 more carers. We have developed social worker, 150 more carers. We have developed and social worker, 150 more carers. 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We have for keeping churn out of police for keeping churn out of police for keeping churn out of police for keeping churn out of police cells. We for keeping churn out of police cells. We have for keeping churn out of police cells. We have started for keeping churn out of police cells. We have started giving cells. We have started giving cells. We have started giving cells. We have started giving specialist training cells. We have started giving specialist training and cells. We have started giving specialist training and support cells. 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Why care to an additional 500 children. Why has care to an additional 500 children. Why has there care to an additional 500 children. Why has there been care to an additional 500 children. Why has there been an care to an additional 500 children. Why has there been an increase care to an additional 500 children. Why has there been an increase in Why has there been an increase in the Why has there been an increase in the number Why has there been an increase in the number of Why has there been an increase in the number of children Why has there been an increase in the number of children in Why has there been an increase in the number of children in the care the number of children in the care of the number of children in the care of Oranga the number of children in the care of Oranga Tamariki? the number of children in the care of Oranga Tamariki? The the number of children in the care of Oranga Tamariki? The number the number of children in the care of Oranga Tamariki? The number of of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children and of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children and young of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children and young people of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children and young people in of Oranga Tamariki? The number of children and young people in care children and young people in care and children and young people in care and protection children and young people in care and protection has children and young people in care and protection has increased children and young people in care and protection has increased over and protection has increased over the and protection has increased over the last and protection has increased over the last six and protection has increased over the last six to and protection has increased over the last six to nine and protection has increased over the last six to nine months, the last six to nine months, primarily the last six to nine months, primarily because the last six to nine months, primarily because the the last six to nine months, primarily because the able the last six to nine months, primarily because the able of the last six to nine months, primarily because the able of care primarily because the able of care and primarily because the able of care and protection primarily because the able of care and protection as primarily because the able of care and protection as increased primarily because the able of care and protection as increased so primarily because the able of care and protection as increased so there and protection as increased so there are and protection as increased so there are now and protection as increased so there are now more and protection as increased so there are now more 17-year-olds and protection as increased so there are now more 17-year-olds in and protection as increased so there are now more 17-year-olds in care. are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children and are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children and young are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children and young people are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children and young people are are now more 17-year-olds in care. Children and young people are also Children and young people are also generally Children and young people are also generally spending Children and young people are also generally spending more Children and young people are also generally spending more time Children and young people are also generally spending more time in Children and young people are also generally spending more time in care generally spending more time in care because generally spending more time in care because - generally spending more time in care because - and generally spending more time in care because - and this generally spending more time in care because - and this is generally spending more time in care because - and this is because generally spending more time in care because - and this is because the because - and this is because the ministry because - and this is because the ministry is because - and this is because the ministry is working because - and this is because the ministry is working with because - and this is because the ministry is working with children ministry is working with children and ministry is working with children and young ministry is working with children and young people ministry is working with children and young people and ministry is working with children and young people and their and young people and their caregivers and young people and their caregivers for and young people and their caregivers for longer and young people and their caregivers for longer to and young people and their caregivers for longer to make and young people and their caregivers for longer to make a caregivers for longer to make a better caregivers for longer to make a better transition caregivers for longer to make a better transition to caregivers for longer to make a better transition to a caregivers for longer to make a better transition to a permanent better transition to a permanent home. better transition to a permanent home. Supplementary. better transition to a permanent home. Supplementary. What better transition to a permanent home. Supplementary. What are better transition to a permanent home. Supplementary. What are the home. Supplementary. What are the home. Supplementary. What are the home. Supplementary. What are the priorities for home. Supplementary. What are the priorities for Oranga home. Supplementary. What are the priorities for Oranga Tamariki home. Supplementary. What are the priorities for Oranga Tamariki for priorities for Oranga Tamariki for priorities for Oranga Tamariki for priorities for Oranga Tamariki for its next priorities for Oranga Tamariki for its next year? priorities for Oranga Tamariki for its next year? This priorities for Oranga Tamariki for its next year? This year priorities for Oranga Tamariki for its next year? This year Oranga its next year? This year Oranga Tamariki its next year? This year Oranga Tamariki will its next year? This year Oranga Tamariki will be its next year? This year Oranga Tamariki will be focused its next year? This year Oranga Tamariki will be focused on Tamariki will be focused on improving Tamariki will be focused on improving services Tamariki will be focused on improving services for Tamariki will be focused on improving services for children Tamariki will be focused on improving services for children and improving services for children and improving services for children and improving services for children and young people improving services for children and young people in improving services for children and young people in the improving services for children and young people in the three improving services for children and young people in the three following young people in the three following areas. young people in the three following areas. Driving young people in the three following areas. Driving up young people in the three following areas. Driving up the young people in the three following areas. Driving up the consistency areas. Driving up the consistency and areas. Driving up the consistency and quality areas. Driving up the consistency and quality of areas. Driving up the consistency and quality of front-line areas. 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As the future services of Oranga Tamariki beyond this year? As I the future services of Oranga Tamariki beyond this year? As I have Tamariki beyond this year? As I have previously Tamariki beyond this year? As I have previously strongly Tamariki beyond this year? As I have previously strongly supported Tamariki beyond this year? As I have previously strongly supported the previously strongly supported the decision previously strongly supported the decision made previously strongly supported the decision made to previously strongly supported the decision made to create previously strongly supported the decision made to create Oranga decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, I decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, I have decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, I have done decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, I have done so in decision made to create Oranga Tamariki, I have done so in this Tamariki, I have done so in this House. 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However, there are still a number of decisions to make on what number of decisions to make on what particular number of decisions to make on what particular services number of decisions to make on what particular services are number of decisions to make on what particular services are required, particular services are required, how particular services are required, how they particular services are required, how they will particular services are required, how they will be particular services are required, how they will be provided particular services are required, how they will be provided and particular services are required, how they will be provided and how how they will be provided and how these how they will be provided and how these will how they will be provided and how these will be how they will be provided and how these will be funded. how they will be provided and how these will be funded. We how they will be provided and how these will be funded. 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This Government believes that New funded on a set-up basis only. This Government believes that New Zealand Government believes that New Zealand has Government believes that New Zealand has the Government believes that New Zealand has the potential Government believes that New Zealand has the potential to Government believes that New Zealand has the potential to build Government believes that New Zealand has the potential to build a has the potential to build a world-leading has the potential to build a world-leading child has the potential to build a world-leading child and world-leading child and youth world-leading child and world-leading child and youth protection service world-leading child and youth protection service is. world-leading child and youth protection service is. However, world-leading child and youth protection service is. However, at protection service is. However, at the protection service is. However, at the time protection service is. 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Question No. decisions and to find the money to implement them. Question No. 3. 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I adjusted as per normal Government practice. I would adjusted as per normal Government practice. I would urge adjusted as per normal Government practice. I would urge the adjusted as per normal Government practice. I would urge the member adjusted as per normal Government practice. I would urge the member to practice. I would urge the member to think practice. I would urge the member to think back practice. I would urge the member to think back to practice. I would urge the member to think back to her practice. I would urge the member to think back to her time practice. I would urge the member to think back to her time in practice. I would urge the member to think back to her time in Government think back to her time in Government when think back to her time in Government when her think back to her time in Government when her party think back to her time in Government when her party lifted think back to her time in Government when her party lifted petrol think back to her time in Government when her party lifted petrol exist when her party lifted petrol exist tax when her party lifted petrol exist tax six when her party lifted petrol exist tax six times, when her party lifted petrol exist tax six times, an when her party lifted petrol exist tax six times, an increase when her party lifted petrol exist tax six times, an increase of when her party lifted petrol exist tax six times, an increase of 40%. tax six times, an increase of 40%. Order! tax six times, an increase of 40%. Order! Supplementary. tax six times, an increase of 40%. Order! Supplementary. How tax six times, an increase of 40%. Order! Supplementary. 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How much money then does he suggest Kiwi families then does he suggest Kiwi families should then does he suggest Kiwi families should set then does he suggest Kiwi families should set aside then does he suggest Kiwi families should set aside for then does he suggest Kiwi families should set aside for possible should set aside for possible upcoming should set aside for possible upcoming taxes should set aside for possible upcoming taxes given should set aside for possible upcoming taxes given he should set aside for possible upcoming taxes given he is should set aside for possible upcoming taxes given he is not upcoming taxes given he is not prepared upcoming taxes given he is not prepared to upcoming taxes given he is not prepared to rule upcoming taxes given he is not prepared to rule out upcoming taxes given he is not prepared to rule out even upcoming taxes given he is not prepared to rule out even more prepared to rule out even more surprises prepared to rule out even more surprises coming prepared to rule out even more surprises coming their prepared to rule out even more surprises coming their way? prepared to rule out even more surprises coming their way? 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That's less than half the cost of year. That's less than half the cost of the year. That's less than half the cost of the previous year. That's less than half the cost of the previous Government's year. That's less than half the cost of the previous Government's East of the previous Government's East West of the previous Government's East West Link of the previous Government's East West Link project. of the previous Government's East West Link project. Road of the previous Government's East West Link project. Road deaths of the previous Government's East West Link project. Road deaths are West Link project. Road deaths are not West Link project. Road deaths are not an West Link project. Road deaths are not an inevitability, West Link project. Road deaths are not an inevitability, they West Link project. Road deaths are not an inevitability, they are West Link project. 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This Government will choose to ensure that our will choose to ensure that our family will choose to ensure that our family and will choose to ensure that our family and friends will choose to ensure that our family and friends come will choose to ensure that our family and friends come home will choose to ensure that our family and friends come home safe will choose to ensure that our family and friends come home safe at family and friends come home safe at the family and friends come home safe at the end family and friends come home safe at the end of family and friends come home safe at the end of the family and friends come home safe at the end of the day. family and friends come home safe at the end of the day. Supplementary. the end of the day. Supplementary. How the end of the day. Supplementary. How does the end of the day. Supplementary. How does the the end of the day. Supplementary. How does the $70 million the end of the day. Supplementary. How does the $70 million increase the end of the day. Supplementary. How does the $70 million increase in How does the $70 million increase in the How does the $70 million increase in the regional How does the $70 million increase in the regional improvements How does the $70 million increase in the regional improvements category the regional improvements category compensate the regional improvements category compensate for the regional improvements category compensate for the the regional improvements category compensate for the $5 the regional improvements category compensate for the $5 billion the regional improvements category compensate for the $5 billion cut the regional improvements category compensate for the $5 billion cut in compensate for the $5 billion cut in State compensate for the $5 billion cut in State Highway compensate for the $5 billion cut in State Highway budget? It compensate for the $5 billion cut in State Highway budget? It is compensate for the $5 billion cut in State Highway budget? It is part compensate for the $5 billion cut in State Highway budget? It is part of State Highway budget? It is part of a State Highway budget? It is part of a package State Highway budget? It is part of a package of State Highway budget? It is part of a package of spending State Highway budget? It is part of a package of spending on State Highway budget? It is part of a package of spending on every State Highway budget? It is part of a package of spending on every other a package of spending on every other activity a package of spending on every other activity class a package of spending on every other activity class other a package of spending on every other activity class other than a package of spending on every other activity class other than State activity class other than State Highway activity class other than State Highway improvements, activity class other than State Highway improvements, including activity class other than State Highway improvements, including a Highway improvements, including a Highway improvements, including a Highway improvements, including a 43% increase Highway improvements, including a 43% increase in Highway improvements, including a 43% increase in local Highway improvements, including a 43% increase in local roads. 43% increase in local roads. Question 43% increase in local roads. Question No. 43% increase in local roads. Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister for My question is to the Minister for Regional My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: My question is to the Minister for Regional Economic Development: Does Regional Economic Development: Does he Regional Economic Development: Does he stand Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his Regional Economic Development: Does he stand by all his Government's he stand by all his Government's policies he stand by all his Government's policies and he stand by all his Government's policies and decisions he stand by all his Government's policies and decisions regarding he stand by all his Government's policies and decisions regarding the policies and decisions regarding the Provincial policies and decisions regarding the Provincial Growth policies and decisions regarding the Provincial Growth Fund? 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Question cross and political amnesia from time to time. Question No. cross and political amnesia from time to time. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: What My question is to the Minister of Education: What is My question is to the Minister of Education: What is the My question is to the Minister of Education: What is the Government Education: What is the Government doing Education: What is the Government doing to Education: What is the Government doing to take Education: What is the Government doing to take a Education: What is the Government doing to take a more Education: What is the Government doing to take a more strategic doing to take a more strategic approach doing to take a more strategic approach to doing to take a more strategic approach to early doing to take a more strategic approach to early learning? Thank Thank you. Thank you. Today Thank you. Today I Thank you. Today I have Thank you. Today I have released Thank you. Today I have released the Thank you. Today I have released the terms Thank you. Today I have released the terms of Thank you. Today I have released the terms of reference Thank you. Today I have released the terms of reference for Thank you. Today I have released the terms of reference for an Thank you. Today I have released the terms of reference for an early terms of reference for an early learning terms of reference for an early learning strategic terms of reference for an early learning strategic plan terms of reference for an early learning strategic plan to terms of reference for an early learning strategic plan to inform learning strategic plan to inform the learning strategic plan to inform the development learning strategic plan to inform the development of learning strategic plan to inform the development of a learning strategic plan to inform the development of a plan learning strategic plan to inform the development of a plan I learning strategic plan to inform the development of a plan I have the development of a plan I have established the development of a plan I have established a the development of a plan I have established a ministerial the development of a plan I have established a ministerial advisory established a ministerial advisory established a ministerial advisory established a ministerial advisory group and established a ministerial advisory group and reference established a ministerial advisory group and reference group established a ministerial advisory group and reference group made established a ministerial advisory group and reference group made up established a ministerial advisory group and reference group made up of group and reference group made up of sector group and reference group made up of sector representatives group and reference group made up of sector representatives and group and reference group made up of sector representatives and experts. sector representatives and experts. Public sector representatives and experts. Public consultation sector representatives and experts. Public consultation on sector representatives and experts. Public consultation on the sector representatives and experts. Public consultation on the strategic Public consultation on the strategic plan Public consultation on the strategic plan will Public consultation on the strategic plan will occur Public consultation on the strategic plan will occur later Public consultation on the strategic plan will occur later this Public consultation on the strategic plan will occur later this year. Public consultation on the strategic plan will occur later this year. Key plan will occur later this year. Key themes plan will occur later this year. Key themes will plan will occur later this year. Key themes will be plan will occur later this year. Key themes will be raising plan will occur later this year. Key themes will be raising quality, themes will be raising quality, improving themes will be raising quality, improving equity themes will be raising quality, improving equity and themes will be raising quality, improving equity and the themes will be raising quality, improving equity and the role themes will be raising quality, improving equity and the role of improving equity and the role of choice. improving equity and the role of choice. Why improving equity and the role of choice. Why does improving equity and the role of choice. Why does he improving equity and the role of choice. Why does he think improving equity and the role of choice. Why does he think that improving equity and the role of choice. Why does he think that the choice. Why does he think that the early choice. Why does he think that the early learning choice. Why does he think that the early learning sector choice. Why does he think that the early learning sector need choice. Why does he think that the early learning sector need a early learning sector need a strategic early learning sector need a strategic plan? early learning sector need a strategic plan? This early learning sector need a strategic plan? This Government early learning sector need a strategic plan? This Government is strategic plan? This Government is strategic plan? This Government is strategic plan? This Government is very clear strategic plan? This Government is very clear that strategic plan? This Government is very clear that we strategic plan? This Government is very clear that we want strategic plan? This Government is very clear that we want to strategic plan? This Government is very clear that we want to take strategic plan? This Government is very clear that we want to take a very clear that we want to take a comprehensive very clear that we want to take a comprehensive approach very clear that we want to take a comprehensive approach to very clear that we want to take a comprehensive approach to driving very clear that we want to take a comprehensive approach to driving up comprehensive approach to driving up quality comprehensive approach to driving up quality in comprehensive approach to driving up quality in early comprehensive approach to driving up quality in early childhood quality in early childhood education. quality in early childhood education. We quality in early childhood education. We cannot quality in early childhood education. We cannot do quality in early childhood education. We cannot do everything education. We cannot do everything overnight. education. We cannot do everything overnight. That education. We cannot do everything overnight. That will education. We cannot do everything overnight. That will take education. We cannot do everything overnight. That will take time education. We cannot do everything overnight. That will take time and overnight. That will take time and we overnight. That will take time and we need overnight. That will take time and we need to overnight. That will take time and we need to agree overnight. That will take time and we need to agree a overnight. That will take time and we need to agree a shared overnight. That will take time and we need to agree a shared set overnight. That will take time and we need to agree a shared set of we need to agree a shared set of priorities we need to agree a shared set of priorities with we need to agree a shared set of priorities with those we need to agree a shared set of priorities with those who we need to agree a shared set of priorities with those who operate priorities with those who operate early priorities with those who operate early childhood priorities with those who operate early childhood services priorities with those who operate early childhood services amongst early childhood services amongst others, early childhood services amongst others, by early childhood services amongst others, by taking early childhood services amongst others, by taking a early childhood services amongst others, by taking a more early childhood services amongst others, by taking a more strat others, by taking a more strat approach others, by taking a more strat approach we others, by taking a more strat approach we can others, by taking a more strat approach we can get others, by taking a more strat approach we can get that others, by taking a more strat approach we can get that level others, by taking a more strat approach we can get that level of approach we can get that level of agreement approach we can get that level of agreement and approach we can get that level of agreement and we approach we can get that level of agreement and we can approach we can get that level of agreement and we can make approach we can get that level of agreement and we can make progress agreement and we can make progress over agreement and we can make progress over a agreement and we can make progress over a longer agreement and we can make progress over a longer term. Will Will the Will the plan Will the plan address Will the plan address issues Will the plan address issues in Will the plan address issues in home Will the plan address issues in home base Will the plan address issues in home base early Will the plan address issues in home base early childhood Will the plan address issues in home base early childhood education? Will the plan address issues in home base early childhood education? Yes. base early childhood education? Yes. While base early childhood education? Yes. While the base early childhood education? Yes. While the plan base early childhood education? Yes. While the plan is base early childhood education? Yes. While the plan is being base early childhood education? Yes. While the plan is being developed, While the plan is being developed, the While the plan is being developed, the officials While the plan is being developed, the officials will While the plan is being developed, the officials will also While the plan is being developed, the officials will also be the officials will also be undertaking the officials will also be undertaking a the officials will also be undertaking a full the officials will also be undertaking a full review the officials will also be undertaking a full review of undertaking a full review of home-based undertaking a full review of home-based early undertaking a full review of home-based early childhood home-based early childhood education. home-based early childhood education. It home-based early childhood education. It is home-based early childhood education. It is the home-based early childhood education. It is the most home-based early childhood education. It is the most rapidly education. It is the most rapidly growing education. It is the most rapidly growing part education. It is the most rapidly growing part of education. It is the most rapidly growing part of the education. It is the most rapidly growing part of the early education. It is the most rapidly growing part of the early childhood growing part of the early childhood sector, growing part of the early childhood sector, with growing part of the early childhood sector, with over growing part of the early childhood sector, with over 158% growing part of the early childhood sector, with over 158% increase growing part of the early childhood sector, with over 158% increase in sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments sector, with over 158% increase in home-based sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments over - sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments over - since sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments over - since - sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments over - since - during sector, with over 158% increase in enrolments over - since - during the enrolments over - since - during the early enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. We enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. We know enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. We know the enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. We know the benefits enrolments over - since - during the early 2000s. We know the benefits of early 2000s. We know the benefits of early early 2000s. We know the benefits of early childhood early 2000s. We know the benefits of early childhood education early 2000s. We know the benefits of early childhood education are early childhood education are conditional early childhood education are early early childhood education are conditional on quality, early childhood education are conditional on quality, and early childhood education are conditional on quality, and that early childhood education are conditional on quality, and that is conditional on quality, and that is what conditional on quality, and that is what we're conditional on quality, and that is what we're committed conditional on quality, and that is what we're committed to conditional on quality, and that is what we're committed to delivering what we're committed to delivering in what we're committed to delivering in all what we're committed to delivering in all parts what we're committed to delivering in all parts of what we're committed to delivering in all parts of the what we're committed to delivering in all parts of the early what we're committed to delivering in all parts of the early childhood in all parts of the early childhood sector. in all parts of the early childhood sector. Question in all parts of the early childhood sector. Question No. in all parts of the early childhood sector. Question No. 8. 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