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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. Chris Chris Hipkins. Chris Hipkins. Next Chris Hipkins. Next week Chris Hipkins. Next week the Chris Hipkins. Next week the House Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will consider Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will consider a Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will consider a range Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will consider a range of Chris Hipkins. Next week the House will consider a range of legislation will consider a range of legislation including will consider a range of legislation including the will consider a range of legislation including the first will consider a range of legislation including the first readings will consider a range of legislation including the first readings of will consider a range of legislation including the first readings of the including the first readings of the Exclusive including the first readings of the Exclusive Economic including the first readings of the Exclusive Economic Zone including the first readings of the Exclusive Economic Zone and Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf Exclusive Economic Zone and Continental Shelf environmental Continental Shelf environmental effects Continental Shelf environmental effects amendment Continental Shelf environmental effects amendment bill, Continental Shelf environmental effects amendment bill, the Continental Shelf environmental effects amendment bill, the accident effects amendment bill, the accident compensation effects amendment bill, the accident compensation amendment effects amendment bill, the accident compensation amendment bill, effects amendment bill, the accident compensation amendment bill, the compensation amendment bill, the local compensation amendment bill, the local electoral compensation amendment bill, the local electoral matters compensation amendment bill, the local electoral matters bill, compensation amendment bill, the local electoral matters bill, and local electoral matters bill, and the local electoral matters bill, and the settlement local electoral matters bill, and the settlement bill. local electoral matters bill, and the settlement bill. The local electoral matters bill, and the settlement bill. The Brokering the settlement bill. The Brokering (Weapons the settlement bill. The Brokering the the settlement bill. The Brokering (Weapons and Related the settlement bill. The Brokering (Weapons and Related Items) the settlement bill. The Brokering (Weapons and Related Items) Controls (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill will (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill will have (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill will have its (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill will have its committee (Weapons and Related Items) Controls Bill will have its committee stage. Bill will have its committee stage. The Bill will have its committee stage. The Social Bill will have its committee stage. The Social Security Bill will have its committee stage. The Social Security legislation The Social Security legislation rewrite The Social Security legislation rewrite bill The Social Security legislation rewrite bill will The Social Security legislation rewrite bill will have The Social Security legislation rewrite bill will have its The Social Security legislation rewrite bill will have its second rewrite bill will have its second reading rewrite bill will have its second (Weapons rewrite bill will have its second reading and committee rewrite bill will have its second reading and committee stage. rewrite bill will have its second reading and committee stage. The reading and committee stage. The Families reading and committee stage. The Families Commission reading and committee stage. The Families Commission Act reading and committee stage. The Families Commission Act Repeal reading and committee stage. The Families Commission Act Repeal Bill Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will have Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will have the Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will have the committee Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will have the committee stage Families Commission Act Repeal Bill will have the committee stage and will have the committee stage and third will have the committee stage and Families will have the committee stage and third reading. Michael will have the committee stage and third reading. Michael Woodhouse. will have the committee stage and third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House. third reading. Michael Woodhouse. I thank the Leader of the House. I thank the Leader of the House. I wonder thank the Leader of the House. I wonder if thank the Leader of the House. I wonder if for thank the Leader of the House. I wonder if for planning thank the Leader of the House. I wonder if for planning purposes thank the Leader of the House. I wonder if for planning purposes the wonder if for planning purposes the House wonder if for planning purposes the House leader wonder if for planning purposes the House leader can wonder if for planning purposes the House leader can indicate wonder if for planning purposes the House leader can indicate whether House leader can indicate whether Parliamentary House leader can indicate whether House House leader can indicate whether Parliamentary colleagues should House leader can indicate whether Parliamentary colleagues should be Parliamentary colleagues should be planning Parliamentary colleagues should be planning clearing Parliamentary colleagues should be planning clearing their Parliamentary colleagues should be planning clearing their diaries Parliamentary colleagues should be planning clearing their diaries and planning clearing their diaries and planning planning clearing their diaries and planning for planning clearing their diaries and planning for urgency planning clearing their diaries and planning for urgency on planning clearing their diaries and planning for urgency on Friday, planning clearing their diaries and planning for urgency on Friday, 18 planning for urgency on Friday, 18 May? planning for urgency on Friday, 18 May? 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On On behalf On behalf of On behalf of the On behalf of the PM: On behalf of the PM: Yes, On behalf of the PM: Yes, most On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly when On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly when they On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly when they are On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly when they are in On behalf of the PM: Yes, most certainly when they are in their certainly when they are in their context. certainly when they are in their context. Is certainly when they are in their context. Is her certainly when they are in their context. Is her Government certainly when they are in their context. Is her Government still context. Is her Government still "focused context. Is her Government still "focused on context. Is her Government still "focused on getting context. Is her Government still "focused on getting people context. Is her Government still "focused on getting people into "focused on getting people into work" "focused on getting people into work" and "focused on getting people into work" and if "focused on getting people into work" and if so "focused on getting people into work" and if so can "focused on getting people into work" and if so can she "focused on getting people into work" and if so can she confirm "focused on getting people into work" and if so can she confirm that work" and if so can she confirm that since work" and if so can she confirm that since October work" and if so can she confirm that since October only work" and if so can she confirm that since October only 4,000 work" and if so can she confirm that since October only 4,000 jobs work" and if so can she confirm that since October only 4,000 jobs have since October only 4,000 jobs have been since October only 4,000 jobs have been created since October only 4,000 jobs have been created per since October only 4,000 jobs have been created per month? since October only 4,000 jobs have been created per month? 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What I can say is the Government has never had say is the Government has never had any say is the Government has never had any other say is the Government has never had any other greater say is the Government has never had any other greater priority say is the Government has never had any other greater priority than say is the Government has never had any other greater priority than to any other greater priority than to get any other greater priority than to get New any other greater priority than to get New Zealanders any other greater priority than to get New Zealanders back any other greater priority than to get New Zealanders back into any other greater priority than to get New Zealanders back into work. get New Zealanders back into work. And get New Zealanders back into work. say get New Zealanders back into work. And we just get New Zealanders back into work. And we just had get New Zealanders back into work. And we just had the get New Zealanders back into work. And we just had the most get New Zealanders back into work. 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Does she agree that our welfare system should be one of welfare system should be one of reciprocal welfare system should be one of reciprocal obligations welfare system should be one of reciprocal obligations and welfare system should be one of reciprocal obligations and those reciprocal obligations and those that reciprocal obligations and those that can reciprocal obligations and those that can look reciprocal obligations and those that can look for reciprocal obligations and those that can look for work reciprocal obligations and those that can look for work should? reciprocal obligations and those that can look for work should? We've that can look for work should? We've - that can look for work should? We've - as that can look for work should? We've - as a that can look for work should? We've - as a Government that can look for work should? We've - as a Government - that can look for work should? We've - as a Government - been that can look for work should? 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That's why we have so many initiatives to take people who many initiatives to take people who are many initiatives to take people who are out many initiatives to take people who are out of many initiatives to take people who are out of work many initiatives to take people who are out of work when many initiatives to take people who are out of work when we many initiatives to take people who are out of work when we became many initiatives to take people who are out of work when we became the are out of work when we became the Government are out of work when we became the Government back are out of work when we became the Government back into are out of work when we became the Government back into work are out of work when we became the Government back into work for are out of work when we became the Government back into work for the Government back into work for the real Government back into work for the real future. Government back into work for the real future. 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I seek leave to clarify the I seek leave to clarify the statement I seek leave to clarify the statement that I seek leave to clarify the statement that I I seek leave to clarify the statement that I made I seek leave to clarify the statement that I made in I seek leave to clarify the statement that I made in response I seek leave to clarify the statement that I made in response to statement that I made in response to Mr statement that I made in response to Mr Woodhouse's statement that I made in response to Mr Woodhouse's question. statement that I made in response to Mr Woodhouse's question. Any Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection to Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection to that? Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection to that? Appears Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection to that? Appears to Mr Woodhouse's question. Any objection to that? Appears to be objection to that? Appears to be none. objection to that? Appears to be none. 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I am aware anecdotally that within each local anecdotally that within each local government anecdotally that within each local government area anecdotally that within each local government area the anecdotally that within each local government area the cost anecdotally that within each local government area the cost of anecdotally that within each local government area the cost of holding government area the cost of holding such government area the cost of holding such polls government area the cost of holding such polls is government area the cost of holding such polls is a government area the cost of holding such polls is a concern government area the cost of holding such polls is a concern to government area the cost of holding such polls is a concern to them. such polls is a concern to them. Does such polls is a concern to them. Does the such polls is a concern to them. Does the Minister such polls is a concern to them. Does the Minister agree such polls is a concern to them. Does the Minister agree with such polls is a concern to them. 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The discriminatory nature apply to none. The discriminatory nature of apply to none. The discriminatory nature of these apply to none. The discriminatory nature of these polls apply to none. The discriminatory nature of these polls is apply to none. The discriminatory nature of these polls is not nature of these polls is not acceptable. nature of these polls is not acceptable. More nature of these polls is not acceptable. More so, nature of these polls is not acceptable. More so, that nature of these polls is not acceptable. More so, that view nature of these polls is not acceptable. More so, that view is acceptable. More so, that view is held acceptable. More so, that view is held by acceptable. More so, that view is held by the acceptable. More so, that view is held by the five acceptable. More so, that view is held by the five districts acceptable. More so, that view is held by the five districts currently held by the five districts currently holding held by the five districts currently holding the held by the five districts currently holding the polls held by the five districts currently holding the polls which held by the five districts currently holding the polls which is held by the five districts currently holding the polls which is why held by the five districts currently holding the polls which is why they holding the polls which is why they are holding the polls which is why they are campaigning holding the polls which is why they are campaigning very holding the polls which is why they are campaigning very hard holding the polls which is why they are campaigning very hard to holding the polls which is why they are campaigning very hard to ensure are campaigning very hard to ensure that are campaigning very hard to ensure that people are campaigning very hard to ensure that people participate are campaigning very hard to ensure that people participate before are campaigning very hard to ensure that people participate before 19 that people participate before 19 May. that people participate before 19 May. 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Does she agree that local elected members are that local elected members are perfectly that local elected members are perfectly able that local elected members are perfectly able to that local elected members are perfectly able to make that local elected members are perfectly able to make decisions that local elected members are perfectly able to make decisions on perfectly able to make decisions on the perfectly able to make decisions on the establishment perfectly able to make decisions on the establishment of perfectly able to make decisions on the establishment of Maori perfectly able to make decisions on the establishment of Maori wards, the establishment of Maori wards, just the establishment of Maori wards, the the establishment of Maori wards, just as they the establishment of Maori wards, just as they do the establishment of Maori wards, just as they do with the establishment of Maori wards, just as they do with general the establishment of Maori wards, just as they do with general wards, just as they do with general wards, and just as they do with general wards, and the just as they do with general wards, and the current just as they do with general wards, and the current situation just as they do with general wards, and the current situation is just as they do with general wards, and the current situation is a and the current situation is a double and the current situation is a double standard and the current situation is a double standard for and the current situation is a double standard for Maori double standard for Maori representation? double standard for Maori just double standard for Maori representation? 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Is local MPs as well as myself as Local Government Minister. Is she Government Minister. Is she concerned Government Minister. Is she concerned about Government Minister. Is she concerned about the Government Minister. Is she concerned about the effect Government Minister. Is she concerned about the effect of Government Minister. Is she concerned about the effect of these concerned about the effect of these discriminatory concerned about the effect of these discriminatory polls concerned about the effect of these discriminatory polls that concerned about the effect of these discriminatory polls that set concerned about the effect of these discriminatory polls that set up discriminatory polls that set up extra discriminatory polls that set up extra hurdles discriminatory polls that set up extra hurdles for discriminatory polls that set up extra hurdles for Maori extra hurdles for Maori participation extra hurdles for Maori participation given extra hurdles for Maori participation given that extra hurdles for Maori participation given that UN extra hurdles for Maori participation given that UN has participation given that UN has noted participation given that UN has noted that participation given that UN has noted that Aotearoa participation given that UN has noted that Aotearoa has, noted that Aotearoa has, "Persistently noted that Aotearoa has, "Persistently low noted that Aotearoa has, "Persistently low levels noted that Aotearoa has, "Persistently low levels of noted that Aotearoa has, "Persistently low levels of Maori "Persistently low levels of Maori representation "Persistently low levels of Maori representation in "Persistently low levels of Maori representation in local representation in local government."? representation in local government."? 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Is which is why they seek Maori representation. Is she which is why they seek Maori representation. Is she doing which is why they seek Maori representation. Is she doing any representation. Is she doing any work representation. Is she doing any work to representation. Is she doing any work to change representation. Is she doing any work to change the representation. Is she doing any work to change the law representation. Is she doing any work to change the law around representation. Is she doing any work to change the law around Maori work to change the law around Maori wards, work to change the law around Maori wards, given work to change the law around Maori wards, given that work to change the law around Maori wards, given that the work to change the law around Maori wards, given that the Labour work to change the law around Maori wards, given that the Labour party wards, given that the Labour party voted wards, given that the Labour party work wards, given that the Labour party voted for my wards, given that the Labour party voted for my member's wards, given that the Labour party voted for my member's bill wards, given that the Labour party voted for my member's bill in wards, given that the Labour party voted for my member's bill in the voted for my member's bill in the 51st voted for my member's bill in the 51st Parliament voted for my member's bill in the 51st Parliament which voted for my member's bill in the 51st Parliament which would voted for my member's bill in the 51st Parliament which would have 51st Parliament which would have removed 51st Parliament which would have removed this 51st Parliament which would have removed this discriminatory removed this discriminatory provision removed this discriminatory provision and removed this discriminatory provision and if removed this discriminatory provision and if not removed this discriminatory provision and if not why removed this discriminatory provision and if not why not? removed this discriminatory provision and if not why not? It removed this discriminatory provision and if not why not? It is provision and if not why not? It is correct provision and if not why not? It is correct to provision and if not why not? It is correct to say provision and if not why not? It is correct to say that provision and if not why not? It is correct to say that the provision and if not why not? It is correct to say that the Labour provision and if not why not? It is correct to say that the Labour Party correct to say that the Labour Party had correct to say that the Labour Party had a correct to say that the Labour Party had a very correct to say that the Labour Party had a very clear correct to say that the Labour Party had a very clear position correct to say that the Labour Party had a very clear position on correct to say that the Labour Party had a very clear position on this. had a very clear position on this. As had a very clear position on this. As we had a very clear position on this. As we work had a very clear position on this. As we work these had a very clear position on this. As we work these issues had a very clear position on this. As we work these issues forward had a very clear position on this. As we work these issues forward for As we work these issues forward for the As we work these issues forward for the Coalition As we work these issues forward for the Coalition and As we work these issues forward for the Coalition and confidence As we work these issues forward for the Coalition and confidence and the Coalition and confidence and supply the Coalition and confidence and supply Government, the Coalition and confidence and supply Government, it's the Coalition and confidence and supply Government, it's important supply Government, it's important that supply Government, it's important that I supply Government, it's important that I provide supply Government, it's important that I provide all supply Government, it's important that I provide all the supply Government, it's important that I provide all the information that I provide all the information available that I provide all the information the that I provide all the information available so that that I provide all the information available so that we that I provide all the information available so that we can that I provide all the information available so that we can ensure that I provide all the information available so that we can ensure that available so that we can ensure that the available so that we can ensure that the issue available so that we can ensure that the issue of available so that we can ensure that the issue of Maori available so that we can ensure that the issue of Maori representation the issue of Maori representation and the issue of Maori representation and contributing the issue of Maori representation and contributing to the issue of Maori representation and contributing to positive and contributing to positive outcomes and contributing to positive outcomes in and contributing to positive outcomes in the and contributing to positive outcomes in the region and contributing to positive outcomes in the region is and contributing to positive outcomes in the region is not outcomes in the region is not overshadowed outcomes in the region is not overshadowed by outcomes in the region is not overshadowed by negative outcomes in the region is not overshadowed by negative sensement, overshadowed by negative sensement, which overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks to overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks to divide overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks to divide views overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks to divide views at overshadowed by negative sensement, which seeks to divide views at a which seeks to divide views at a local which seeks to divide views at a local level. which seeks to divide views at a local level. <INTERRUPTION> local level. <INTERRUPTION> This local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must be local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must be owned local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must be owned at local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must be owned at a local level. <INTERRUPTION> This issue must be owned at a local This issue must be owned at a local level, This issue must be owned at a local level, and This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm sure This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm sure we This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm sure we will This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm sure we will get This issue must be owned at a local level, and I'm sure we will get to level, and I'm sure we will get to the level, and I'm sure we will get to the right level, and I'm sure we will get to the right outcome level, and I'm sure we will get to the right outcome in level, and I'm sure we will get to the right outcome in time. level, and I'm sure we will get to the right outcome in time. Question the right outcome in time. Question No. the right outcome in time. Question No. 3. the right outcome in time. Question No. 3. Paul the right outcome in time. Question No. 3. Paul Goldsmith. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Finance: My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he accept My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he accept that My question is to the Minister of Finance: Does he accept that the Finance: Does he accept that the Half Finance: Does he accept that the Half year Finance: Does he accept that the Half year Economic Finance: Does he accept that the Half year Economic and Finance: Does he accept that the Half year Economic and Fiscal Finance: Does he accept that the Half year Economic and Fiscal Update Half year Economic and Fiscal Update shows Half year Economic and Fiscal Update shows $23.1 Half year Economic and Fiscal Update shows $23.1 billion Half year Economic and Fiscal Update shows $23.1 billion in Half year Economic and Fiscal Update shows $23.1 billion in surpluses shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over the shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over the next shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over the next four shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over the next four years, shows $23.1 billion in surpluses over the next four years, additional over the next four years, additional borrowing over the next four years, additional borrowing of over the next four years, additional borrowing of $10 over the next four years, additional borrowing of $10 billion over the next four years, additional borrowing of $10 billion in over the next four years, additional borrowing of $10 billion in the over the next four years, additional borrowing of $10 billion in the next borrowing of $10 billion in the next three borrowing of $10 billion in the next three years, borrowing of $10 billion in the next three years, and borrowing of $10 billion in the next three years, and that borrowing of $10 billion in the next three years, and that the borrowing of $10 billion in the next three years, and that the latest three years, and that the latest Crown three years, and that the latest Crown financial three years, and that the latest Crown financial statements three years, and that the latest Crown financial statements for Crown financial statements for February Crown financial statements for February 2018 Crown financial statements for February 2018 show Crown financial statements for February 2018 show an Crown financial statements for February 2018 show an additional February 2018 show an additional $494 February 2018 show an additional $494 million February 2018 show an additional $494 million is February 2018 show an additional $494 million is available; February 2018 show an additional $494 million is available; if February 2018 show an additional $494 million is available; if so, $494 million is available; if so, why $494 million is available; if so, why is $494 million is available; if so, why is the $494 million is available; if so, why is the Government $494 million is available; if so, why is the Government increasing why is the Government increasing taxes why is the Government increasing taxes and why is the Government increasing taxes and not why is the Government increasing taxes and not keeping why is the Government increasing taxes and not keeping its why is the Government increasing taxes and not keeping its promise why is the Government increasing taxes and not keeping its promise to taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost of taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost of GP taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost of GP visits taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost of GP visits for taxes and not keeping its promise to reduce the cost of GP visits for all reduce the cost of GP visits for all New reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders on reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders on 1 reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders on 1 July reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders on 1 July this reduce the cost of GP visits for all New Zealanders on 1 July this year? 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They will infrastructure deficits. They will take infrastructure deficits. They will take more infrastructure deficits. They will take more than infrastructure deficits. They will take more than one infrastructure deficits. They will take more than one budget infrastructure deficits. They will take more than one budget to take more than one budget to resolve. take more than one budget to resolve. And take more than one budget to resolve. And so take more than one budget to resolve. And so I take more than one budget to resolve. And so I say take more than one budget to resolve. And so I say to take more than one budget to resolve. And so I say to the take more than one budget to resolve. And so I say to the member resolve. And so I say to the member had resolve. And so I say to the member had his resolve. And so I say to the member had his party resolve. And so I say to the member had his party not resolve. And so I say to the member had his party not left resolve. And so I say to the member had his party not left the resolve. 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I want multinational companies to pay their multinational companies to pay their fair multinational companies to pay their fair share, multinational companies to pay their fair share, unlike multinational companies to pay their fair share, unlike the multinational companies to pay their fair share, unlike the previous fair share, unlike the previous Government fair share, unlike the previous Government who fair share, unlike the previous Government who didn't fair share, unlike the previous Government who didn't seem fair share, unlike the previous Government who didn't seem to fair share, unlike the previous Government who didn't seem to care Government who didn't seem to care about Government who didn't seem to care about that. Government who didn't seem to care about that. And Government who didn't seem to care about that. And I Government who didn't seem to care about that. And I want Government who didn't seem to care about that. And I want all Government who didn't seem to care about that. And I want all New about that. And I want all New Zealanders about that. And I want all New Zealanders to about that. And I want all New Zealanders to know about that. And I want all New Zealanders to know that about that. And I want all New Zealanders to know that their about that. And I want all New Zealanders to know that their public Zealanders to know that their public services Zealanders to know that their public services will Zealanders to know that their public services will be Zealanders to know that their public services will be there Zealanders to know that their public services will be there for Zealanders to know that their public services will be there for them Zealanders to know that their public services will be there for them when services will be there for them when they services will be there for them when they need services will be there for them when they need them, services will be there for them when they need them, unlike services will be there for them when they need them, unlike the services will be there for them when they need them, unlike the legacy they need them, unlike the legacy the they need them, unlike the legacy the previous they need them, unlike the legacy the previous Government they need them, unlike the legacy the previous Government left. the previous Government left. <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> What <INTERRUPTION> What other <INTERRUPTION> What other promises <INTERRUPTION> What other promises does <INTERRUPTION> What other promises does he <INTERRUPTION> What other promises does he intend What other promises does he intend to What other promises does he intend to break? 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Does the Minister believe that job seekers without children, that job seekers without children, who that job seekers without children, who refuse that job seekers without children, who refuse work that job seekers without children, who refuse work experience that job seekers without children, who refuse work experience or who refuse work experience or training, who refuse work experience or training, or who refuse work experience or training, or recreational who refuse work experience or training, or recreational drug training, or recreational drug rehabilitation, training, or recreational drug rehabilitation, should training, or recreational drug rehabilitation, should lose training, or recreational drug rehabilitation, should lose part training, or recreational drug rehabilitation, should lose part of rehabilitation, should lose part of their rehabilitation, should lose part of their benefit rehabilitation, should lose part of their benefit entitlement rehabilitation, should lose part of their benefit entitlement after rehabilitation, should lose part of their benefit entitlement after four their benefit entitlement after four weeks their benefit entitlement after four weeks of their benefit entitlement after four weeks of not their benefit entitlement after four weeks of not meeting their benefit entitlement after four weeks of not meeting their weeks of not meeting their obligations? weeks of not meeting their obligations? 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Previously employers and apprentices had to pay universities. Previously employers and apprentices had to pay training and apprentices had to pay training and and apprentices had to pay training and assessment and apprentices had to pay training and assessment fees and apprentices had to pay training and assessment fees to and apprentices had to pay training and assessment fees to the and apprentices had to pay training and assessment fees to the ITO. and apprentices had to pay training and assessment fees to the ITO. Now and assessment fees to the ITO. Now for and assessment fees to the ITO. Now for all and assessment fees to the ITO. Now for all eligible and assessment fees to the ITO. Now for all eligible apprentices and assessment fees to the ITO. 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Does he consider building and construction workforce. Supplementary. Does he consider that Supplementary. Does he consider that the Supplementary. Does he consider that the fees Supplementary. Does he consider that the fees free Supplementary. Does he consider that the fees free policy Supplementary. Does he consider that the fees free policy is Supplementary. Does he consider that the fees free policy is sustainable? the fees free policy is sustainable? Yes. the fees free policy is sustainable? Yes. It the fees free policy is sustainable? Yes. It is the fees free policy is sustainable? Yes. It is financially the fees free policy is sustainable? Yes. It is financially and Yes. It is financially and Yes. It is financially and Yes. It is financially and educationally very Yes. It is financially and educationally very sustainable. Yes. It is financially and educationally very sustainable. We educationally very sustainable. We cannot educationally very sustainable. 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Fees skills and training to succeed in a rapidly changing word. Fees free skills and training to succeed in a rapidly changing word. Fees free has rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced student rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced student loan rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced student loan borrowing rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced student loan borrowing by rapidly changing word. Fees free has reduced student loan borrowing by up reduced student loan borrowing by up to reduced student loan borrowing by up to $140 reduced student loan borrowing by up to $140 million reduced student loan borrowing by up to $140 million in reduced student loan borrowing by up to $140 million in the reduced student loan borrowing by up to $140 million in the first to $140 million in the first calendar to $140 million in the first calendar quarter to $140 million in the first calendar quarter of to $140 million in the first calendar quarter of this to $140 million in the first calendar quarter of this year, to $140 million in the first calendar quarter of this year, with calendar quarter of this year, with 25,000 calendar quarter of this year, with 25,000 fewer calendar quarter of this year, with 25,000 fewer students calendar quarter of this year, with 25,000 fewer students having calendar quarter of this year, with 25,000 fewer students having to 25,000 fewer students having to borrow 25,000 fewer students having to borrow for 25,000 fewer students having to borrow for their 25,000 fewer students having to borrow for their fees. 25,000 fewer students having to borrow for their fees. That 25,000 fewer students having to borrow for their fees. That includes borrow for their fees. That includes thousands borrow for their fees. That includes thousands undertaking borrow for their fees. That includes thousands undertaking vocational thousands undertaking vocational courses thousands undertaking vocational courses at thousands undertaking vocational courses at Polytechnics thousands undertaking vocational courses at Polytechnics and thousands undertaking vocational courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. Question courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. Question No. courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. Question No. 9. courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. Question No. 9. Sarah courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. Question No. 9. Sarah Dowie. courses Question No. 9. Sarah Dowie. courses at Question No. 9. Sarah Dowie. courses at Polytechnics Question No. 9. Sarah Dowie. courses at Polytechnics and Question No. 9. Sarah Dowie. courses at Polytechnics and PTEs. 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