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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. 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These showed core Crown tax revenue March. These showed core Crown tax Government's March. These showed core Crown tax revenue of $57.5 March. These showed core Crown tax revenue of $57.5 billion, March. These showed core Crown tax revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. March. These showed core Crown tax revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion higher revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion higher than revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion higher than forecast revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion higher than forecast in revenue of $57.5 billion, $1. 1 billion higher than forecast in the billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. The billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. The Crown's billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. The Crown's surplus billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. The Crown's surplus was billion higher than forecast in the HYEFU. 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Budget 2018 will also fund housing and housing first places. Budget 2018 will also fund housing first 2018 will also fund housing first services 2018 will also fund housing first services for 2018 will also fund housing first services for more 2018 will also fund housing first services for more than 2018 will also fund housing first services for more than 1450 services for more than 1450 households services for more than 1450 services services for more than 1450 households over the services for more than 1450 households over the next services for more than 1450 households over the next four services for more than 1450 households over the next four years. households over the next four years. What households over the next four years. What effect households over the next four years. What effect will households over the next four years. What effect will these households over the next four years. What effect will these measures households over the next four years. 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But it was not so long ago, I can tell the member. long ago, I can tell the member. Question long ago, I can tell the member. Question No. long ago, I can tell the member. Question No. 8. Chris Chris Bishop. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Police: My question is to the Minister of Police: Does My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Police: Does he stand by his Police: Does he stand by his statement Police: Does he stand by his statement last Police: Does he stand by his statement last November Police: Does he stand by his statement last November that Police: Does he stand by his statement last November that his statement last November that his Government statement last November that his Government will statement last November that his Government will be statement last November that his Government will be hiring statement last November that his Government will be hiring 1,800 Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn police Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn police officers; Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn police officers; if Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn police officers; if so, Government will be hiring 1,800 sworn police officers; if so, why sworn police officers; if so, why did sworn police officers; if so, why did he sworn police officers; if so, why did he tell sworn police officers; if so, why did he tell The sworn police officers; if so, why did he tell The Nation sworn police officers; if so, why did he tell The Nation this sworn police officers; if so, why did he tell The Nation this weekend did he tell The Nation this weekend that did he tell The Nation this weekend that not did he tell The Nation this weekend that not all did he tell The Nation this weekend that not all 1,800 did he tell The Nation this weekend that not all 1,800 officers did he tell The Nation this weekend that not all 1,800 officers will did he tell The Nation this weekend that not all 1,800 officers will be that not all 1,800 officers will be sworn that not all 1,800 officers will be sworn police that not all 1,800 officers will be sworn police officers? The The Hon The Hon Stuart The Hon Stuart Nash. The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by my The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by my statement, The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by my statement, and The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by my statement, and since The Hon Stuart Nash. Yes, I stand by my statement, and since last my statement, and since last November my statement, and since last November police my statement, and since last November police have my statement, and since last November police have provided my statement, and since last November police have provided me November police have provided me with November police have provided me with more November police have provided me with more advice November police have provided me with more advice around November police have provided me with more advice around the November police have provided me with more advice around the 1,100 with more advice around the 1,100 community with more advice around the 1,100 community officers with more advice around the 1,100 community officers and with more advice around the 1,100 community officers and 700 with more advice around the 1,100 community officers and 700 in with more advice around the 1,100 community officers and 700 in the community officers and 700 in the organised community officers and 700 in the organised crime community officers and 700 in the organised crime squads. community officers and 700 in the organised crime squads. This organised crime squads. This Government organised crime squads. This Government has organised crime squads. This Government has always organised crime squads. This Government has always been organised crime squads. This Government has always been clear Government has always been clear that Government has always been clear that we Government has always been clear that we are Government has always been clear that we are striving Government has always been clear that we are striving to Government has always been clear that we are striving to deliver that we are striving to deliver 1,800 that we are striving to deliver 1,800 new that we are striving to deliver 1,800 new police that we are striving to deliver 1,800 new police officers that we are striving to deliver 1,800 new police officers over that we are striving to deliver 1,800 new police officers over three 1,800 new police officers over three years. 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, Mr 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, Mr Bishop, 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, Mr Bishop, is 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 1,800 new police officers over three years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 more years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 more officers years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 more officers than years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 more officers than the years. That, Mr Bishop, is 920 more officers than the previous officers than the previous Government officers than the previous Government promised officers than the previous Government promised in officers than the previous Government promised in budget officers than the previous Government promised in budget 2017. Government promised in budget 2017. Why Government promised in budget 2017. Why has Government promised in budget 2017. Why has he Government promised in budget 2017. Why has he spent Government promised in budget 2017. Why has he spent the Government promised in budget 2017. Why has he spent the last Government promised in budget 2017. Why has he spent the last six Government promised in budget 2017. 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So, who leave the service every single year. So, to who leave the service every single year. So, to deliver who leave the service every single year. So, to deliver on who leave the service every single year. So, to deliver on our who leave the service every single year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need to year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need to train year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need to train about year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need to train about a year. So, to deliver on our 1,800, we need to train about a thousand we need to train about a thousand new we need to train about a thousand new officers we need to train about a thousand new officers a we need to train about a thousand new officers a year, we need to train about a thousand new officers a year, just we need to train about a thousand new officers a year, just to we need to train about a thousand new officers a year, just to replace new officers a year, just to replace churn. new officers a year, just to replace churn. And, new officers a year, just to replace churn. And, Mr new officers a year, just to replace churn. And, Mr Speaker, new officers a year, just to replace churn. And, Mr Speaker, we new officers a year, just to replace churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving very churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving very hard churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving very hard to churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving very hard to deliver churn. And, Mr Speaker, we are striving very hard to deliver 1,800 striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This is, striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This is, as striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This is, as the striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This is, as the Deputy striving very hard to deliver 1,800 more. This is, as the Deputy PM more. This is, as the Deputy PM mentioned... more. This is, as the Deputy PM mentioned... Alright. more. This is, as the Deputy PM mentioned... Alright. OK. more. This is, as the Deputy PM mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. more. This is, as the Deputy PM mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. Order! mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. Order! I'll mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. Order! I'll just mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. Order! I'll just say mentioned... Alright. OK. OK. Order! 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Well, the member might want to disagree, and the National want to disagree, and the National Party want to disagree, and the National Party will want to disagree, and the National Party will have want to disagree, and the National Party will have an want to disagree, and the National Party will have an additional want to disagree, and the National Party will have an additional two Party will have an additional two for Party will have an additional two for the Party will have an additional two for the interjection Party will have an additional two for the interjection while Party will have an additional two for the interjection while I Party will have an additional two for the interjection while I was Party will have an additional two for the interjection while I was on for the interjection while I was on my for the interjection while I was on my feet for the interjection while I was on my feet again. for the interjection while I was on my feet again. What for the interjection while I was on my feet again. What assurances for the interjection while I was on my feet again. What assurances has my feet again. What assurances has the my feet again. What assurances has the Minister my feet again. What assurances has the Minister received my feet again. What assurances has the Minister received from my feet again. What assurances has the Minister received from the the Minister received from the Commissioner the Minister received from the Commissioner of the Minister received from the Commissioner of Police the Minister received from the Commissioner of Police about the Minister received from the Commissioner of Police about the Commissioner of Police about the capacity Commissioner of Police about the capacity to Commissioner of Police about the capacity to deliver Commissioner of Police about the capacity to deliver on Commissioner of Police about the capacity to deliver on this capacity to deliver on this coalition capacity to deliver on this coalition agreement capacity to deliver on this coalition agreement commitment? capacity to deliver on this coalition agreement commitment? The coalition agreement commitment? The Commissioner coalition agreement commitment? The Commissioner of coalition agreement commitment? The Commissioner of Police coalition agreement commitment? The Commissioner of Police has coalition agreement commitment? The Commissioner of Police has given Commissioner of Police has given many Commissioner of Police has given many assurances, Commissioner of Police has given many assurances, most Commissioner of Police has given many assurances, most recently Commissioner of Police has given many assurances, most recently in many assurances, most recently in the many assurances, most recently in the select many assurances, most recently in the select committee many assurances, most recently in the select committee for many assurances, most recently in the select committee for the many assurances, most recently in the select committee for the police the select committee for the police financial the select committee for the police financial review the select committee for the police financial review that the select committee for the police financial review that police the select committee for the police financial review that police are the select committee for the police financial review that police are on financial review that police are on track financial review that police are on track to financial review that police are on track to recruit, financial review that police are on track to recruit, train financial review that police are on track to recruit, train and financial review that police are on track to recruit, train and deploy. track to recruit, train and deploy. It track to recruit, train and deploy. It is track to recruit, train and deploy. It is anticipated track to recruit, train and deploy. It is anticipated that track to recruit, train and deploy. It is anticipated that around track to recruit, train and deploy. It is anticipated that around 400 It is anticipated that around 400 officers It is anticipated that around 400 officers will It is anticipated that around 400 officers will leave It is anticipated that around 400 officers will leave the It is anticipated that around 400 officers will leave the service officers will leave the service during officers will leave the service during the officers will leave the service during the average officers will leave the service during the average year. officers will leave the service during the average year. We officers will leave the service during the average year. We are during the average year. We are planning during the average year. We are planning for during the average year. We are planning for this during the average year. We are planning for this attrition during the average year. We are planning for this attrition with during the average year. We are planning for this attrition with a planning for this attrition with a target planning for this attrition with a target of planning for this attrition with a target of around planning for this attrition with a target of around a planning for this attrition with a target of around a thousand planning for this attrition with a target of around a thousand new target of around a thousand new recruits target of around a thousand new recruits to target of around a thousand new recruits to be target of around a thousand new recruits to be trained target of around a thousand new recruits to be trained each target of around a thousand new recruits to be trained each year target of around a thousand new recruits to be trained each year in recruits to be trained each year in order recruits to be trained each year in order to recruits to be trained each year in order to meet recruits to be trained each year in order to meet our recruits to be trained each year in order to meet our commitments. order to meet our commitments. Can order to meet our commitments. Can he order to meet our commitments. Can he guarantee order to meet our commitments. Can he guarantee to order to meet our commitments. Can he guarantee to the order to meet our commitments. Can he guarantee to the House order to meet our commitments. Can he guarantee to the House that Can he guarantee to the House that entry Can he guarantee to the House that entry standards Can he guarantee to the House that entry standards and Can he guarantee to the House that entry standards and police Can he guarantee to the House that entry standards and police training entry standards and police training standards entry standards and police training standards will entry standards and police training standards will not entry standards and police training standards will not drop entry standards and police training standards will not drop under entry standards and police training standards will not drop under his standards will not drop under his watch, standards will not drop under his watch, as standards will not drop under his watch, as part standards will not drop under his watch, as part of standards will not drop under his watch, as part of the standards will not drop under his watch, as part of the driver standards will not drop under his watch, as part of the driver for watch, as part of the driver for 1,800 watch, as part of the driver for 1,800 extra watch, as part of the driver for 1,800 extra worn watch, as part of the driver for 1,800 extra worn front-line 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? Yes. 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? Yes. Question 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? Yes. Question No. 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? Yes. Question No. 9. 1,800 extra worn front-line officers? Yes. Question No. 9. The officers? Yes. Question No. 9. The Hon officers? Yes. Question No. 9. The Hon Paula officers? Yes. Question No. 9. The Hon Paula Bennett. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Employment: My question is to the Minister of Employment: How My question is to the Minister of Employment: How many My question is to the Minister of Employment: How many unemployed Employment: How many unemployed people Employment: How many unemployed people are Employment: How many unemployed people are there Employment: How many unemployed people are there in Employment: How many unemployed people are there in the Employment: How many unemployed people are there in the Bay Employment: How many unemployed people are there in the Bay of people are there in the Bay of Plenty people are there in the Bay of Plenty and people are there in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's people are there in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay? The The Hon The Hon Willie The Hon Willie Jackson. The Hon Willie Jackson. As The Hon Willie Jackson. As of The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, Mr The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, Mr Speaker, The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, Mr Speaker, there The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, Mr Speaker, there are The Hon Willie Jackson. As of March 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed people 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed people in 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed people in the 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed people in the Bay 2018, Mr Speaker, there are 9,800 unemployed people in the Bay of unemployed people in the Bay of Plenty, unemployed people in the Bay of Plenty, and unemployed people in the Bay of Plenty, and 5,900 unemployed people in the Bay of Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed people in the Bay of Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in the Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in the Gisborne, Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in the Gisborne, Hawke's Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in the Gisborne, Hawke's Bay Plenty, and 5,900 people unemployed in the Gisborne, Hawke's Bay region. in the Gisborne, Hawke's Bay region. 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Does he stand by his statement of 13 Hawke's Bay. Does he stand by his statement of 13 February, Hawke's Bay. Does he stand by his statement of 13 February, "We Hawke's Bay. Does he stand by his statement of 13 February, "We still statement of 13 February, "We still have statement of 13 February, "We still have 343,000 statement of 13 February, "We still have 343,000 workers statement of 13 February, "We still have 343,000 workers who statement of 13 February, "We still have 343,000 workers who want statement of 13 February, "We still have 343,000 workers who want more have 343,000 workers who want more work, have 343,000 workers who want more work, but have 343,000 workers who want more work, but can't have 343,000 workers who want more work, but can't get have 343,000 workers who want more work, but can't get it"? have 343,000 workers who want more work, but can't get it"? And, have 343,000 workers who want more work, but can't get it"? 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Especially members not very far to my left, who are please? Especially members not very far to my left, who are quite please? Especially members not very far to my left, who are quite noisy. far to my left, who are quite noisy. Mr far to my left, who are quite noisy. Mr Speaker, far to my left, who are quite noisy. Mr Speaker, it's far to my left, who are quite noisy. Mr Speaker, it's not far to my left, who are quite noisy. Mr Speaker, it's not just far to my left, who are quite noisy. 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There are lots people and telling them to go out and pick fruit. There are lots of and pick fruit. There are lots of circumstances and pick fruit. There are lots of circumstances that and pick fruit. There are lots of circumstances that come and pick fruit. There are lots of circumstances that come to and pick fruit. There are lots of circumstances that come to play. circumstances that come to play. Like circumstances that come to play. Like accommodation. circumstances that come to play. Like accommodation. Like circumstances that come to play. Like accommodation. Like family Like accommodation. Like family obligations. Like accommodation. Like family obligations. Like Like accommodation. Like family obligations. Like community obligations. Like community obligations, obligations. Like community obligations, sir. obligations. Like community obligations, sir. It's obligations. Like community obligations, sir. It's not obligations. Like community obligations, sir. It's not about obligations, sir. It's not about using obligations, sir. It's not about using a obligations, sir. It's not about using a big obligations, sir. It's not about using a big bat obligations, sir. It's not about using a big bat approach obligations, sir. It's not about using a big bat approach all obligations, sir. It's not about using a big bat approach all the using a big bat approach all the time, using a big bat approach all the time, Mr using a big bat approach all the time, Mr Speaker. using a big bat approach all the time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary using a big bat approach all the time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: Does time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: Does he time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: Does he think time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: Does he think that time, Mr Speaker. Supplementary to the Minister: Does he think that it the Minister: Does he think that it might the Minister: Does he think that it might be the Minister: Does he think that it might be difficult the Minister: Does he think that it might be difficult for the Minister: Does he think that it might be difficult for people the Minister: Does he think that it might be difficult for people to might be difficult for people to come might be difficult for people to come from might be difficult for people to come from the might be difficult for people to come from the Pacific might be difficult for people to come from the Pacific Islands might be difficult for people to come from the Pacific Islands to might be difficult for people to come from the Pacific Islands to a come from the Pacific Islands to a country come from the Pacific Islands to a country they come from the Pacific Islands to a country they don't come from the Pacific Islands to a country they don't know, come from the Pacific Islands to a country they don't know, stay come from the Pacific Islands to a country they don't know, stay in come from the Pacific Islands to a country they don't know, stay in a country they don't know, stay in a region country they don't know, stay in a region where country they don't know, stay in a region where they country they don't know, stay in a region where they don't country they don't know, stay in a region where they don't have country they don't know, stay in a region where they don't have family, region where they don't have family, get region where they don't have family, get up region where they don't have family, get up every region where they don't have family, get up every day region where they don't have family, get up every day and region where they don't have family, get up every day and pick region where they don't have family, get up every day and pick fruit, region where they don't have family, get up every day and pick fruit, yet get up every day and pick fruit, yet they get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able to get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able to do get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able to do it, get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able to do it, yet get up every day and pick fruit, yet they are able to do it, yet he they are able to do it, yet he doesn't they are able to do it, yet he doesn't think they are able to do it, yet he doesn't think New they are able to do it, yet he doesn't think New Zealanders they are able to do it, yet he doesn't think New Zealanders should? doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr Speaker, doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr Speaker, obviously doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr Speaker, obviously it's doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard doesn't think New Zealanders should? Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some of Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some of our Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some of our Pacific Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some of our Pacific Island Mr Speaker, obviously it's hard for some of our Pacific Island brothers some of our Pacific Island brothers and some of our Pacific Island brothers and sisters, some of our Pacific Island brothers and sisters, but some of our Pacific Island brothers and sisters, but this some of our Pacific Island brothers and sisters, but this Government some of our Pacific Island brothers and sisters, but this Government is and sisters, but this Government is clear and sisters, but this Government is clear that and sisters, but this Government is clear that we and sisters, but this Government is clear that we are and sisters, but this Government is clear that we are committed and sisters, but this Government is clear that we are committed to clear that we are committed to employing clear that we are committed to employing and clear that we are committed to employing and increasing clear that we are committed to employing and increasing the employing and increasing the workload employing and increasing the workload for employing and increasing the workload for our employing and increasing the workload for our people. employing and increasing the workload for our people. We employing and increasing the workload for our people. We want employing and increasing the workload for our people. We want to workload for our people. We want to get workload for our people. We want to get New workload for our people. We want to get New Zealanders workload for our people. We want to get New Zealanders first workload for our people. We want to get New Zealanders first into workload for our people. We want to get New Zealanders first into this get New Zealanders first into this industry get New Zealanders first into this industry rather get New Zealanders first into this industry rather than get New Zealanders first into this industry rather than go get New Zealanders first into this industry rather than go down get New Zealanders first into this industry rather than go down the industry rather than go down the easy industry rather than go down the easy route industry rather than go down the easy route that industry rather than go down the easy route that the industry rather than go down the easy route that the National industry rather than go down the easy route that the National Party easy route that the National Party did easy route that the National Party did for easy route that the National Party did for nine easy route that the National Party did for nine years, easy route that the National Party did for nine years, sir. easy route that the National Party did for nine years, sir. They easy route that the National Party did for nine years, sir. They never did for nine years, sir. They never put did for nine years, sir. They never put a did for nine years, sir. They never put a plan did for nine years, sir. They never put a plan in, did for nine years, sir. They never put a plan in, or did for nine years, sir. They never put a plan in, or any did for nine years, sir. They never put a plan in, or any organisation, put a plan in, or any organisation, with put a plan in, or any organisation, with regards put a plan in, or any organisation, with regards to put a plan in, or any organisation, with regards to seasonal put a plan in, or any organisation, with regards to seasonal workers. put a plan in, or any organisation, with regards to seasonal workers. We with regards to seasonal workers. We only with regards to seasonal workers. We only have with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to go with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to go back with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to go back to with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to go back to 2009, with regards to seasonal workers. We only have to go back to 2009, sir, only have to go back to 2009, sir, when only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John Key only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John Key talked only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John Key talked about only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John Key talked about a only have to go back to 2009, sir, when John Key talked about a plan when John Key talked about a plan for when John Key talked about a plan for seasonal when John Key talked about a plan for seasonal workers, when John Key talked about a plan for seasonal workers, and when John Key talked about a plan for seasonal workers, and we when John Key talked about a plan for seasonal workers, and we got for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. Order! for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. Order! Point for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. Order! Point of for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. Order! Point of order. for seasonal workers, and we got nothing. Order! Point of order. I nothing. Order! Point of order. I appreciated nothing. Order! Point of order. I appreciated the nothing. Order! Point of order. I appreciated the Minister nothing. Order! Point of order. I appreciated the Minister answering appreciated the Minister answering my appreciated the Minister answering my question, appreciated the Minister answering my question, but appreciated the Minister answering my question, but felt appreciated the Minister answering my question, but felt that appreciated the Minister answering my question, but felt that the appreciated the Minister answering my question, but felt that the bit my question, but felt that the bit about my question, but felt that the bit about the my question, but felt that the bit about the National my question, but felt that the bit about the National Party my question, but felt that the bit about the National Party was about the National Party was unnecessary about the National Party was unnecessary and about the National Party was unnecessary and going about the National Party was unnecessary and going on. unnecessary and going on. Well, unnecessary and going on. Well, the unnecessary and going on. Well, the member unnecessary and going on. Well, the member will unnecessary and going on. Well, the member will now unnecessary and going on. Well, the member will now stand, Well, the member will now stand, withdraw Well, the member will now stand, withdraw and Well, the member will now stand, withdraw and apologise. Well, the member will now stand, withdraw and apologise. I've Well, the member will now stand, withdraw and apologise. I've made Well, the member will now stand, withdraw and apologise. I've made it withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to the withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to the Deputy withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to the Deputy PM withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to the Deputy PM earlier withdraw and apologise. I've made it clear to the Deputy PM earlier in clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the day clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the day that clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the day that responsibility clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the day that responsibility for clear to the Deputy PM earlier in the day that responsibility for the the day that responsibility for the length the day that responsibility for the length of the day that responsibility for the length of answers the day that responsibility for the length of answers and the day that responsibility for the length of answers and their the day that responsibility for the length of answers and their quality length of answers and their quality is length of answers and their quality is mine. length of answers and their quality is mine. He length of answers and their quality is mine. He was length of answers and their quality is mine. He was punished. length of answers and their quality is mine. He was punished. And length of answers and their quality is mine. He was punished. And the is mine. He was punished. And the member is mine. He was punished. And the member will is mine. He was punished. And the member will withdraw is mine. He was punished. And the member will withdraw and is mine. He was punished. And the member will withdraw and apologise. member will withdraw and apologise. I member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. And member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. And with member will withdraw and apologise. I withdraw and apologise. And with a I withdraw and apologise. And with a like I withdraw and apologise. And with a like punishment. I withdraw and apologise. And with a like punishment. Supplementary, I withdraw and apologise. And with a like punishment. Supplementary, Mr like punishment. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. like punishment. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. If like punishment. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. If unemployed like punishment. Supplementary, Mr Speaker. If unemployed New Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in the Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in the Bay Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in the Bay of Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty Speaker. If unemployed New Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are asked Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are asked to Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are asked to do Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are asked to do work Zealanders in the Bay of Plenty and Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show up Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show up that, Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show up that, are Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show up that, are on Hawke's Bay are asked to do work and don't show up that, are on an don't show up that, are on an unemployment don't show up that, are on an unemployment benefit, don't show up that, are on an unemployment benefit, should don't show up that, are on an unemployment benefit, should they don't show up that, are on an unemployment benefit, should they be unemployment benefit, should they be sanctioned? unemployment benefit, should they be sanctioned? Mr unemployment benefit, should they be sanctioned? Mr Speaker, unemployment benefit, should they be sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're unemployment benefit, should they be sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going through sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going through that sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going through that process sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going through that process at sanctioned? Mr Speaker, we're still going through that process at the going through that process at the moment. going through that process at the moment. This going through that process at the moment. This is going through that process at the moment. This is not going through that process at the moment. This is not a going through that process at the moment. This is not a punitive going through that process at the moment. This is not a punitive - moment. This is not a punitive - this moment. This is not a punitive - this is moment. This is not a punitive - this is not moment. This is not a punitive - this is not a moment. This is not a punitive - this is not a punitive moment. This is not a punitive - this is not a punitive Government, this is not a punitive Government, sir. this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM has this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM has made this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM has made it this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM has made it very this is not a punitive Government, sir. Our PM has made it very clear sir. Our PM has made it very clear we sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are a sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are a caring sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are a caring Government, sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are a caring Government, we sir. Our PM has made it very clear we are a caring Government, we are we are a caring Government, we are addressing we are a caring Government, we are addressing that we are a caring Government, we are addressing that issue we are a caring Government, we are addressing that issue right we are a caring Government, we are addressing that issue right now we are a caring Government, we are addressing that issue right now and addressing that issue right now and we addressing that issue right now and we won't addressing that issue right now and we won't be addressing that issue right now and we won't be punishing addressing that issue right now and we won't be punishing everybody addressing that issue right now and we won't be punishing everybody who we won't be punishing everybody who mucks we won't be punishing everybody who mucks up, we won't be punishing everybody who mucks up, like we won't be punishing everybody who mucks up, like the we won't be punishing everybody who mucks up, like the previous mucks up, like the previous Government, mucks up, like the previous Government, sir. Government, sir. What's Government, sir. What's the Government, sir. What's the Minister Government, sir. What's the Minister of Government, sir. What's the Minister of doing Government, sir. What's the Minister of doing to What's the Minister of doing to improve What's the Minister of doing to improve employment What's the Minister of doing to improve employment in What's the Minister of doing to improve employment in the What's the Minister of doing to improve employment in the Bay What's the Minister of doing to improve employment in the Bay of improve employment in the Bay of Plenty improve employment in the Bay of Plenty and improve employment in the Bay of Plenty and the improve employment in the Bay of Plenty and the Hawke's improve employment in the Bay of Plenty and the Hawke's Bay improve employment in the Bay of Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What a Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What a great Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What a great question, Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What a great question, Mr Plenty and the Hawke's Bay region? What a great question, Mr Speaker. What a great question, Mr Speaker. mucks What a great question, Mr Speaker. You wrote it! What a great question, Mr Speaker. You wrote it! Mr What a great question, Mr Speaker. You wrote it! Mr Speaker, What a great question, Mr Speaker. You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we What a great question, Mr Speaker. You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing in You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing in our You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing in our regions. You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing in our regions. We You wrote it! Mr Speaker, we are investing in our regions. We are investing in our regions. We are investing investing in our regions. We are investing in investing in our regions. We are investing in our investing in our regions. We are investing in our young investing in our regions. We are investing in our young people. investing in our regions. We are investing in our young people. We investing in our young people. We have investing in our young people. We have Government investing in our young people. We have Government initiatives investing in our young people. We have Government initiatives like investing in our young people. We have Government initiatives like the have Government initiatives like the sector have Government initiatives like the sector workforce have Government initiatives like the sector workforce engagement sector workforce engagement programme, sector workforce engagement programme, who sector workforce engagement programme, who are sector workforce engagement programme, who are specifically programme, who are specifically working programme, who are specifically working with programme, who are specifically working with key programme, who are specifically working with key stakeholders programme, who are specifically working with key stakeholders in programme, who are specifically working with key stakeholders in the working with key stakeholders in the horticultural working with key stakeholders in the horticultural industry. working with key stakeholders in the horticultural industry. And working with key stakeholders in the horticultural industry. And we working with key stakeholders in the horticultural industry. And we have horticultural industry. And we have industry horticultural industry. And we have industry partnership horticultural industry. And we have industry partnership engagement industry partnership engagement through industry partnership engagement through the industry partnership engagement through the Ministry industry partnership engagement through the Ministry of industry partnership engagement through the Ministry of Social through the Ministry of Social Development. through the Ministry of Social Development. So through the Ministry of Social Development. So much through the Ministry of Social Development. So much going through the Ministry of Social Development. So much going on through the Ministry of Social Development. So much going on at through the Ministry of Social Development. So much going on at the Development. So much going on at the moment, Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, we've Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, we've got Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, we've got a Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, we've got a plan Development. So much going on at the moment, sir, we've got a plan in moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. In moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. In terms moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. In terms of moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. In terms of what's moment, sir, we've got a plan in place. In terms of what's happening place. In terms of what's happening in place. In terms of what's happening in the place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's Bay place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's Bay at place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's Bay at the place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, place. In terms of what's happening in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go down in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go down the in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go down the easy in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go down the easy route in the Hawke's Bay at the moment, we won't go down the easy route and won't go down the easy route and just won't go down the easy route and just hire won't go down the easy route and just hire foreigners won't go down the easy route and just hire foreigners all won't go down the easy route and just hire foreigners all the won't go down the easy route and just hire foreigners all the time. just hire foreigners all the time. We'll just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do the just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do the business just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do the business right just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do the business right now just hire foreigners all the time. We'll do the business right now to We'll do the business right now to fill We'll do the business right now to fill the We'll do the business right now to fill the problem, We'll do the business right now to fill the problem, but We'll do the business right now to fill the problem, but our We'll do the business right now to fill the problem, but our overall fill the problem, but our overall goal, fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, will fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, will be fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, will be to fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, will be to employ fill the problem, but our overall goal, sir, will be to employ New goal, sir, will be to employ New Zealanders. Zealanders. Question Zealanders. Question No. Zealanders. Question No. 10. Zealanders. Question No. 10. Darroch Zealanders. Question No. 10. Darroch Ball. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Veterans' My question is to the Minister of Veterans' Affairs: My question is to the Minister of Veterans' Affairs: What My question is to the Minister of Veterans' Affairs: What progress, My question is to the Minister of Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, has Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, has been Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, has been made Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, has been made regarding Veterans' Affairs: What progress, if any, has been made regarding the any, has been made regarding the Government's any, has been made regarding the Government's decision any, has been made regarding the Government's decision to any, has been made regarding the Government's decision to repatriate Government's decision to repatriate the Government's decision to repatriate the remains Government's decision to repatriate the remains of Government's decision to repatriate the remains of New Government's decision to repatriate the remains of New Zealand Government's decision to repatriate the remains of New Zealand military the remains of New Zealand military personnel the remains of New Zealand military personnel and the remains of New Zealand military personnel and dependants the remains of New Zealand military personnel and dependants who the remains of New Zealand military personnel and dependants who were personnel and dependants who were buried personnel and dependants who were buried overseas personnel and dependants who were buried overseas after personnel and dependants who were buried overseas after 1 personnel and dependants who were buried overseas after 1 January buried overseas after 1 January 1955? The The Hon The Hon Ron The Hon Ron Mark. The Hon Ron Mark. Thank The Hon Ron Mark. Thank you, The Hon Ron Mark. Thank you, Mr The Hon Ron Mark. Thank you, Mr Speaker. The Hon Ron Mark. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Tena The Hon Ron Mark. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Tena koe. Speaker. Tena koe. INTERPRETER: Speaker. Tena koe. INTERPRETER: Greeting Speaker. Tena koe. INTERPRETER: Greeting to Speaker. Tena koe. INTERPRETER: Greeting to our Speaker. Tena koe. INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those who INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those who have INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those who have left INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those who have left to INTERPRETER: Greeting to our many deceased. Those who have left to the deceased. Those who have left to the night deceased. Those who have left to the night and deceased. Those who have left to the night and are deceased. Those who have left to the night and are resting deceased. Those who have left to the night and are resting at deceased. Those who have left to the night and are resting at peace. night and are resting at peace. And night and are resting at peace. And to night and are resting at peace. And to our night and are resting at peace. And to our almighty night and are resting at peace. And to our almighty God, night and are resting at peace. And to our almighty God, and night and are resting at peace. And to our almighty God, and to And to our almighty God, and to those And to our almighty God, and to those resting And to our almighty God, and to those resting in And to our almighty God, and to those resting in peace, And to our almighty God, and to those resting in peace, may And to our almighty God, and to those resting in peace, may you those resting in peace, may you rest, those resting in peace, may you rest, rest those resting in peace, may you rest, rest in those resting in peace, may you rest, rest in peace. rest, rest in peace. I, rest, rest in peace. I, on rest, rest in peace. I, on behalf rest, rest in peace. I, on behalf of rest, rest in peace. I, on behalf of the rest, rest in peace. I, on behalf of the Government, I, on behalf of the Government, attended I, on behalf of the Government, attended a I, on behalf of the Government, attended a ramp I, on behalf of the Government, attended a ramp ceremony I, on behalf of the Government, attended a ramp ceremony at I, on behalf of the Government, attended a ramp ceremony at the I, on behalf of the Government, attended a ramp ceremony at the air attended a ramp ceremony at the air base, attended a ramp ceremony at the air base, welcoming attended a ramp ceremony at the air base, welcoming home attended a ramp ceremony at the air base, welcoming home three attended a ramp ceremony at the air base, welcoming home three New base, welcoming home three New Zealand base, welcoming home three New Zealand Defence base, welcoming home three New Zealand Defence Force base, welcoming home three New Zealand Defence Force personnel base, welcoming home three New Zealand Defence Force personnel who Zealand Defence Force personnel who were Zealand Defence Force personnel who were repatriated Zealand Defence Force personnel who were repatriated from Zealand Defence Force personnel who were repatriated from Fiji Zealand Defence Force personnel who were repatriated from Fiji and were repatriated from Fiji and American were repatriated from Fiji and American Samoa. were repatriated from Fiji and American Samoa. It were repatriated from Fiji and American Samoa. It was were repatriated from Fiji and American Samoa. It was a were repatriated from Fiji and American Samoa. It was a privilege American Samoa. It was a privilege to American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand with American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand with the American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand with the families American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand with the families of American Samoa. It was a privilege to stand with the families of our to stand with the families of our fallen, to stand with the families of our fallen, as to stand with the families of our fallen, as Royal to stand with the families of our fallen, as Royal New to stand with the families of our fallen, as Royal New Zealand to stand with the families of our fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air Force fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air Force C-130 fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air Force C-130 Hercules fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air Force C-130 Hercules returned fallen, as Royal New Zealand Air Force C-130 Hercules returned Flight Force C-130 Hercules returned Flight Lieutenant Force C-130 Hercules returned Flight Lieutenant George Force C-130 Hercules returned Flight Lieutenant George Bevan, Force C-130 Hercules returned Flight Lieutenant George Bevan, leading Lieutenant George Bevan, leading aircraftman Lieutenant George Bevan, leading aircraftman Ralph Lieutenant George Bevan, leading aircraftman Ralph Scott, Lieutenant George Bevan, leading aircraftman Ralph Scott, both Lieutenant George Bevan, leading aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from Fiji, aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from Fiji, and aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from Fiji, and first-class aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from Fiji, and first-class Russell aircraftman Ralph Scott, both from Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from American Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from American Samoa Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from American Samoa to Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from American Samoa to New Fiji, and first-class Russell Moore from American Samoa to New Zealand. from American Samoa to New Zealand. The from American Samoa to New Zealand. The repatriated from American Samoa to New Zealand. The repatriated personnel from American Samoa to New Zealand. The repatriated personnel were The repatriated personnel were received The repatriated personnel were received with The repatriated personnel were received with a The repatriated personnel were received with a tri-service The repatriated personnel were received with a tri-service guard The repatriated personnel were received with a tri-service guard of received with a tri-service guard of honour, received with a tri-service guard of honour, after received with a tri-service guard of honour, after which received with a tri-service guard of honour, after which they received with a tri-service guard of honour, after which they were received with a tri-service guard of honour, after which they were handed honour, after which they were handed over honour, after which they were handed over to honour, after which they were handed over to their honour, after which they were handed over to their families. honour, after which they were handed over to their families. A honour, after which they were handed over to their families. A short over to their families. A short private over to their families. A short private service over to their families. A short private service was over to their families. A short private service was held, over to their families. A short private service was held, followed private service was held, followed by private service was held, followed by a private service was held, followed by a moving private service was held, followed by a moving Haka. by a moving Haka. What by a moving Haka. What can by a moving Haka. What can the by a moving Haka. What can the Minister by a moving Haka. What can the Minister tell by a moving Haka. What can the Minister tell us by a moving Haka. What can the Minister tell us about What can the Minister tell us about the What can the Minister tell us about the military What can the Minister tell us about the military personnel What can the Minister tell us about the military personnel who What can the Minister tell us about the military personnel who were the military personnel who were repatriated? the military personnel who were repatriated? Point the military personnel who were repatriated? Point of the military personnel who were repatriated? Point of order. repatriated? Point of order. A repatriated? Point of order. A point repatriated? Point of order. A point of repatriated? Point of order. A point of order, repatriated? Point of order. A point of order, the repatriated? Point of order. A point of order, the Hon repatriated? Point of order. A point of order, the Hon Ron repatriated? Point of order. A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? Mr A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? Mr Speaker, A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? Mr Speaker, my A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? Mr Speaker, my office A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? Mr Speaker, my office contacted A point of order, the Hon Ron Mark? 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Yes, I understand that. longer, to give it justice. Yes, I understand that. Thank longer, to give it justice. Yes, I understand that. Thank you, longer, to give it justice. Yes, I understand that. Thank you, Mr understand that. Thank you, Mr Speaker. Speaker. I Speaker. I can Speaker. I can report Speaker. I can report to Speaker. I can report to the Speaker. I can report to the House Speaker. I can report to the House that I can report to the House that Flight I can report to the House that Flight Lieutenant I can report to the House that Flight Lieutenant George I can report to the House that Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE served Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE served in Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE served in the Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE served in the Second Flight Lieutenant George Thomas Bevan MBE served in the Second World Bevan MBE served in the Second World War Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as an Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as an RNZAF Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as an RNZAF medic. Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as an RNZAF medic. He Bevan MBE served in the Second World War as an RNZAF medic. He was War as an RNZAF medic. He was discharged War as an RNZAF medic. He was discharged at War as an RNZAF medic. He was discharged at the War as an RNZAF medic. He was discharged at the conclusion War as an RNZAF medic. He was discharged at the conclusion of discharged at the conclusion of hostilities. discharged at the conclusion of hostilities. He discharged at the conclusion of hostilities. He re-enlisted discharged at the conclusion of hostilities. He re-enlisted in discharged at the conclusion of hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a secretarial hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a secretarial officer. hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a secretarial officer. In hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a secretarial officer. In 1954 hostilities. He re-enlisted in 1948 as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted with as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted with his as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted with his family as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted with his family to as a secretarial officer. In 1954 he was posted with his family to RNZAF was posted with his family to RNZAF base was posted with his family to RNZAF base station was posted with his family to RNZAF base station at was posted with his family to RNZAF base station at Luthala was posted with his family to RNZAF base station at Luthala Bay was posted with his family to RNZAF base station at Luthala Bay as was posted with his family to RNZAF base station at Luthala Bay as a base station at Luthala Bay as a senior base station at Luthala Bay as a senior secretarial base station at Luthala Bay as a senior secretarial officer base station at Luthala Bay as a senior secretarial officer and base station at Luthala Bay as a senior secretarial officer and press senior secretarial officer and press liaison senior secretarial officer and press liaison officer. senior secretarial officer and press liaison officer. He senior secretarial officer and press liaison officer. He died senior secretarial officer and press liaison officer. He died of senior secretarial officer and press liaison officer. He died of natural liaison officer. He died of natural causes, liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged 40, liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged 40, on liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged 40, on 31 liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged 40, on 31 August liaison officer. He died of natural causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, and causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, and was causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, and was buried causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, and was buried in causes, aged 40, on 31 August 1956 in Fiji, and was buried in the in Fiji, and was buried in the military in Fiji, and was buried in the military section in Fiji, and was buried in the military section of in Fiji, and was buried in the military section of the in Fiji, and was buried in the military section of the Suva military section of the Suva Cemetery. military section of the Suva Cemetery. Leeding military section of the Suva Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman military section of the Suva Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott enlisted Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott enlisted as Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott enlisted as a Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman Cemetery. Leeding aircraftman Ralph Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He also Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He also served Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He also served from Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He also served from 1952 Henny Scott enlisted as a fireman in 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the Royal 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the Royal Air 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the Royal Air Force 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the Royal Air Force as 1956. He also served from 1952 to 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. After 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. After a 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. After a period 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. After a period of 1956 in the Royal Air Force as a fireman. After a period of basic fireman. After a period of basic training, fireman. After a period of basic training, he fireman. After a period of basic training, he was fireman. After a period of basic training, he was posted fireman. After a period of basic training, he was posted to fireman. After a period of basic training, he was posted to RNZAF training, he was posted to RNZAF base training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea as training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea as a training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea as a fireman. training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea as a fireman. In training, he was posted to RNZAF base Ohakea as a fireman. In August base Ohakea as a fireman. In August 1960 base Ohakea as a fireman. In August 1960 he base Ohakea as a fireman. In August 1960 he was base Ohakea as a fireman. In August 1960 he was posted NZAF NZAF station NZAF station Luthala NZAF station Luthala Bay NZAF station Luthala Bay in NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died of NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died of natural NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died of natural causes, NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died of natural causes, aged NZAF station Luthala Bay in Fiji. He died of natural causes, aged 28. died of natural causes, aged 28. On died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 October died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 October 1960. died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 October 1960. And died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 October 1960. And was died of natural causes, aged 28. On 15 October 1960. And was buried On 15 October 1960. And was buried in On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the military On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the military section On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the military section of On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the military section of the On 15 October 1960. And was buried in the military section of the Suva in the military section of the Suva Cemetery. in the military section of the Suva Cemetery. Engineer in the military section of the Suva Cemetery. Engineer and in the military section of the Suva Cemetery. Engineer and mechanic Cemetery. Engineer and mechanic first-class Cemetery. Engineer and mechanic first-class Russell Cemetery. Engineer and mechanic first-class Russell James Cemetery. Engineer and mechanic first-class Russell James Craig first-class Russell James Craig Moore first-class Russell James Craig Moore enlisted first-class Russell James Craig Moore enlisted with first-class Russell James Craig Moore enlisted with the first-class Russell James Craig Moore enlisted with the Royal first-class Russell James Craig Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 July Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 July 1955. Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 July 1955. He Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 July 1955. He was Moore enlisted with the Royal NZ Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to the Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to the survey Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to the survey HMNZAS Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, Navy on 28 July 1955. He was posted to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while on to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while on the to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while on the ship, to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while on the ship, American to the survey HMNZAS Lachlan, and while on the ship, American Samoa, while on the ship, American Samoa, he while on the ship, American Samoa, he died while on the ship, American Samoa, he died in while on the ship, American Samoa, he died in an while on the ship, American Samoa, he died in an accident, while on the ship, American Samoa, he died in an accident, aged while on the ship, American Samoa, he died in an accident, aged very he died in an accident, aged very young, he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On 9 he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On 9 July he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On 9 July 1956. he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He he died in an accident, aged very young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried in young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried in the young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried in the naval young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried in the naval section young, 19. On 9 July 1956. He was buried in the naval section of buried in the naval section of Surtalo buried in the naval section of Surtalo Cemetery. Surtalo Cemetery. When Surtalo Cemetery. When will Surtalo Cemetery. When will the Surtalo Cemetery. When will the remaining Surtalo Cemetery. When will the remaining repatriation When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies take When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies take place? When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies take place? Mr When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, When will the remaining repatriation ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report to ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report to the ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report to the House ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report to the House that ceremonies take place? Mr Speaker, I can report to the House that there can report to the House that there will can report to the House that there will be can report to the House that there will be three can report to the House that there will be three more can report to the House that there will be three more tranches can report to the House that there will be three more tranches of will be three more tranches of service will be three more tranches of service personnel will be three more tranches of service personnel who will be three more tranches of service personnel who will will be three more tranches of service personnel who will be service personnel who will be repatriated. service personnel who will be repatriated. 29 service personnel who will be repatriated. 29 service service personnel who will be repatriated. 29 service personnel repatriated. 29 service personnel and repatriated. 29 service personnel and one repatriated. 29 service personnel and one child repatriated. 29 service personnel and one child will repatriated. 29 service personnel and one child will come repatriated. 29 service personnel and one child will come from and one child will come from Malaysia. and one child will come from Malaysia. And and one child will come from Malaysia. And one and one child will come from Malaysia. And one service and one child will come from Malaysia. And one service person Malaysia. And one service person from Malaysia. And one service person from Singapore. Malaysia. And one service person from Singapore. They Malaysia. And one service person from Singapore. They will Malaysia. And one service person from Singapore. They will be from Singapore. They will be repatriated from Singapore. They will be repatriated as from Singapore. They will be repatriated as one from Singapore. They will be repatriated as one group from Singapore. They will be repatriated as one group and from Singapore. They will be repatriated as one group and will repatriated as one group and will arrive repatriated as one group and will arrive in repatriated as one group and will arrive in New repatriated as one group and will arrive in New Zealand repatriated as one group and will arrive in New Zealand in repatriated as one group and will arrive in New Zealand in mid-late arrive in New Zealand in mid-late August arrive in New Zealand in mid-late August 2018. arrive in New Zealand in mid-late August 2018. Two arrive in New Zealand in mid-late August 2018. Two service arrive in New Zealand in mid-late August 2018. Two service personnel August 2018. Two service personnel from August 2018. Two service personnel from the August 2018. Two service personnel from the United August 2018. Two service personnel from the United Kingdom August 2018. Two service personnel from the United Kingdom will August 2018. Two service personnel from the United Kingdom will be from the United Kingdom will be returned from the United Kingdom will be returned to from the United Kingdom will be returned to New from the United Kingdom will be returned to New Zealand from the United Kingdom will be returned to New Zealand in returned to New Zealand in mid-September returned to New Zealand in mid-September 2018. returned to New Zealand in mid-September 2018. And returned to New Zealand in mid-September 2018. And two returned to New Zealand in mid-September 2018. And two more mid-September 2018. And two more service mid-September 2018. And two more service personnel mid-September 2018. And two more service personnel from mid-September 2018. And two more service personnel from the mid-September 2018. And two more service personnel from the Republic service personnel from the Republic of service personnel from the Republic of Korea service personnel from the Republic of Korea will service personnel from the Republic of Korea will be service personnel from the Republic of Korea will be returned service personnel from the Republic of Korea will be returned to service personnel from the Republic of Korea will be returned to New of Korea will be returned to New Zealand of Korea will be returned to New Zealand in of Korea will be returned to New Zealand in mid-October of Korea will be returned to New Zealand in mid-October 2018. of Korea will be returned to New Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of Korea will be returned to New Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the ceremonies Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the ceremonies will Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the ceremonies will follow Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the ceremonies will follow the Zealand in mid-October 2018. All of the ceremonies will follow the same the ceremonies will follow the same format the ceremonies will follow the same format as the ceremonies will follow the same format as that the ceremonies will follow the same format as that that the ceremonies will follow the same format as that that was the ceremonies will follow the same format as that that was conducted format as that that was conducted yesterday, format as that that was conducted yesterday, and format as that that was conducted yesterday, and will format as that that was conducted yesterday, and will include format as that that was conducted yesterday, and will include senior yesterday, and will include senior representatives yesterday, and will include senior representatives of yesterday, and will include senior representatives of the yesterday, and will include senior representatives of the nation, representatives of the nation, senior representatives of the nation, senior defence representatives of the nation, senior defence officers representatives of the nation, senior defence officers and senior defence officers and officials senior defence officers and officials and senior defence officers and officials and representatives senior defence officers and officials and representatives from officials and representatives from the officials and representatives from the veterans' officials and representatives from the veterans' organisations officials and representatives from the veterans' organisations and the veterans' organisations and communities. communities. What communities. What additional communities. What additional support communities. What additional support is communities. What additional support is the What additional support is the Government What additional support is the Government providing What additional support is the Government providing to What additional support is the Government providing to the Government providing to the families? Government providing to the families? Mr Government providing to the families? Mr Speaker, Government providing to the families? Mr Speaker, the Government providing to the families? Mr Speaker, the Coalition families? Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government families? Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is families? Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is funding families? Mr Speaker, the Coalition Government is funding the Government is funding the disinternment, Government is funding the disinternment, repatriation Government is funding the disinternment, repatriation and disinternment, repatriation and re-internment disinternment, repatriation and re-internment of disinternment, repatriation and re-internment of the disinternment, repatriation and re-internment of the deceased disinternment, repatriation and re-internment of the deceased at disinternment, repatriation and re-internment of the deceased at no re-internment of the deceased at no cost re-internment of the deceased at no cost to re-internment of the deceased at no cost to families. re-internment of the deceased at no cost to families. The re-internment of the deceased at no cost to families. The contribution cost to families. The contribution of cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 will cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 will be cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 will be made cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 will be made towards cost to families. The contribution of $1,000 will be made towards a of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial for of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial for those of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial for those reinterred, of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial for those reinterred, and of $1,000 will be made towards a memorial for those reinterred, and a memorial for those reinterred, and a public memorial for those reinterred, and a public or memorial for those reinterred, and a public or private memorial for those reinterred, and a public or private ceremony. memorial for those reinterred, and a public or private ceremony. The memorial for those reinterred, and a public or private ceremony. The New public or private ceremony. The New Zealand public or private ceremony. The New Zealand Defence public or private ceremony. The New Zealand Defence Force public or private ceremony. The New Zealand Defence Force has public or private ceremony. The New Zealand Defence Force has assigned Zealand Defence Force has assigned liaison Zealand Defence Force has assigned liaison officers Zealand Defence Force has assigned liaison officers to Zealand Defence Force has assigned liaison officers to the Zealand Defence Force has assigned liaison officers to the families, liaison officers to the families, and liaison officers to the families, and will liaison officers to the families, and will also liaison officers to the families, and will also offer liaison officers to the families, and will also offer additional and will also offer additional support and will also offer additional support to and will also offer additional support to families and will also offer additional support to families that and will also offer additional support to families that request and will also offer additional support to families that request it, support to families that request it, such support to families that request it, such as support to families that request it, such as pallbearers support to families that request it, such as pallbearers a support to families that request it, such as pallbearers a chaplain support to families that request it, such as pallbearers a chaplain and support to families that request it, such as pallbearers a chaplain and a such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If families such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If families do such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If families do not such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If families do not wish such as pallbearers a chaplain and a bugler. If families do not wish for bugler. If families do not wish for their bugler. If families do not wish for their loved bugler. If families do not wish for their loved ones bugler. If families do not wish for their loved ones to bugler. If families do not wish for their loved ones to be bugler. If families do not wish for their loved ones to be repatriated, their loved ones to be repatriated, then their loved ones to be repatriated, then the their loved ones to be repatriated, then the Government their loved ones to be repatriated, then the Government will their loved ones to be repatriated, then the Government will continue their loved ones to be repatriated, then the Government will continue to then the Government will continue to care then the Government will continue to care for then the Government will continue to care for their then the Government will continue to care for their graves then the Government will continue to care for their graves overseas. care for their graves overseas. Before care for their graves overseas. Before we care for their graves overseas. Before we move care for their graves overseas. Before we move to care for their graves overseas. Before we move to the care for their graves overseas. Before we move to the next care for their graves overseas. Before we move to the next question, Before we move to the next question, during Before we move to the next question, during Question Before we move to the next question, during Question 8 Before we move to the next question, during Question 8 there Before we move to the next question, during Question 8 there was Before we move to the next question, during Question 8 there was an during Question 8 there was an interchange during Question 8 there was an interchange between during Question 8 there was an interchange between myself during Question 8 there was an interchange between myself and during Question 8 there was an interchange between myself and the interchange between myself and the Hon interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart Nash. interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart Nash. I interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart Nash. I twice interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used interchange between myself and the Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an expression Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an expression which, Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an expression which, upon Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an expression which, upon reflection, Hon Stuart Nash. I twice used an expression which, upon reflection, I expression which, upon reflection, I think expression which, upon reflection, I think was expression which, upon reflection, I think was inappropriate. expression which, upon reflection, I think was inappropriate. I expression which, upon reflection, I think was inappropriate. I want expression which, upon reflection, I think was inappropriate. I want to think was inappropriate. I want to apologise think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to Mr think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to Mr Nash think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to Mr Nash and think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to Mr Nash and to think was inappropriate. I want to apologise to Mr Nash and to the apologise to Mr Nash and to the House. House. Question House. Question No. House. Question No. 11. House. Question No. 11. The House. Question No. 11. The Hon House. Question No. 11. The Hon Dr House. Question No. 11. The Hon Dr Nick Question No. 11. The Hon Dr Nick Smith. 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The The Hon The Hon Andrew The Hon Andrew Little. The Hon Andrew Little. As The Hon Andrew Little. As I The Hon Andrew Little. As I said The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member last The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member last week The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member last week in The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member last week in response The Hon Andrew Little. As I said to the member last week in response to the member last week in response to essentially the member last week in response to essentially the the member last week in response to essentially the same the member last week in response to essentially the same question, the member last week in response to essentially the same question, yes. essentially the same question, yes. However, essentially the same question, yes. However, I essentially the same question, yes. 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However, I realise now that I was However, I realise now that I was erroneous However, I realise now that I was erroneous in However, I realise now that I was erroneous in the However, I realise now that I was erroneous in the original However, I realise now that I was erroneous in the original quote However, I realise now that I was erroneous in the original quote that erroneous in the original quote that he erroneous in the original quote that he made erroneous in the original quote that he made of erroneous in the original quote that he made of me, erroneous in the original quote that he made of me, and erroneous in the original quote that he made of me, and that erroneous in the original quote that he made of me, and that when erroneous in the original quote that he made of me, and that when I he made of me, and that when I referred he made of me, and that when I referred to he made of me, and that when I referred to academic, he made of me, and that when I referred to academic, legal he made of me, and that when I referred to academic, legal experts referred to academic, legal experts and referred to academic, legal experts and constitutional referred to academic, legal experts and constitutional experts, referred to academic, legal experts and constitutional experts, I and constitutional experts, I clearly and constitutional experts, I clearly omitted and constitutional experts, I clearly omitted Opposition and constitutional experts, I clearly omitted Opposition backbench clearly omitted Opposition backbench MPs. 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