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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. Amen. No No papers No papers or No papers or select No papers or select committee No papers or select committee reports No papers or select committee reports have No papers or select committee reports have been No papers or select committee reports have been presented No papers or select committee reports have been presented and No papers or select committee reports have been presented and no reports have been presented and no bills reports have been presented and no bills have reports have been presented and no bills have been reports have been presented and no bills have been introduced. bills bills have bills have been bills have been introduced. bills have been introduced. A bills have been introduced. A petitions bills have been introduced. A petitions has bills have been introduced. A petitions has been bills have been introduced. A petitions has been delivered A petitions has been delivered to A petitions has been delivered to the A petitions has been delivered to the Clerk A petitions has been delivered to the Clerk for A petitions has been delivered to the Clerk for presentation. to the Clerk for presentation. Petition to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Robert to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Robert James to the Clerk for presentation. Petition of Robert James Lee Petition of Robert James Lee requesting Petition of Robert James Lee requesting that Petition of Robert James Lee requesting that the Petition of Robert James Lee requesting that the House Petition of Robert James Lee requesting that the House pass requesting that the House pass legislation requesting that the House pass legislation capping requesting that the House pass legislation capping local requesting that the House pass legislation capping local body requesting that the House pass legislation capping local body rates legislation capping local body rates at legislation capping local body rates at a legislation capping local body rates at a specified legislation capping local body rates at a specified percentage legislation capping local body rates at a specified percentage of legislation capping local body rates at a specified percentage of the at a specified percentage of the rateable at a specified percentage of the rateable value at a specified percentage of the rateable value for at a specified percentage of the rateable value for any at a specified percentage of the rateable value for any particular rateable value for any particular property rateable value for any particular property type. property type. Those property type. Those petitions property type. Those petitions stand property type. Those petitions stand referred Those petitions stand referred to Those petitions stand referred to a Those petitions stand referred to a select Those petitions stand referred to a select committee to a select committee allocated to a select committee allocated by to a select committee allocated by the to a select committee allocated by the Clerk. The The House The House comes The House comes to The House comes to Oral The House comes to Oral Questions. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. The House comes to Oral Questions. Question No. 1. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Prime My question is to the Prime Minister: My question is to the Prime Minister: Does My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all My question is to the Prime Minister: Does she stand by all of Minister: Does she stand by all of her Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's policies Minister: Does she stand by all of her Government's policies and her Government's policies and actions? Yes. Yes. Can Yes. Can she Yes. Can she confirm Yes. Can she confirm that Yes. Can she confirm that as Yes. Can she confirm that as a Yes. Can she confirm that as a result Yes. Can she confirm that as a result of Yes. Can she confirm that as a result of her Yes. Can she confirm that as a result of her delay Yes. Can she confirm that as a result of her delay to Yes. Can she confirm that as a result of her delay to the result of her delay to the implementation result of her delay to the implementation of result of her delay to the implementation of the result of her delay to the implementation of the Winter result of her delay to the implementation of the Winter Energy implementation of the Winter Energy Payment, implementation of the Winter Energy Payment, superannuants implementation of the Winter Energy Payment, superannuants will implementation of the Winter Energy Payment, superannuants will be Payment, superannuants will be around Payment, superannuants will be around $300 Payment, superannuants will be around $300 worse Payment, superannuants will be around $300 worse off Payment, superannuants will be around $300 worse off this Payment, superannuants will be around $300 worse off this year Payment, superannuants will be around $300 worse off this year than around $300 worse off this year than they around $300 worse off this year than they would around $300 worse off this year than they would have around $300 worse off this year than they would have been around $300 worse off this year than they would have been following they would have been following National's they would have been following National's proposed they would have been following National's proposed tax they would have been following National's proposed tax cuts? they would have been following National's proposed tax cuts? Of National's proposed tax cuts? Of course National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the member National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the member will National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the member will be National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the member will be aware National's proposed tax cuts? Of course the member will be aware we course the member will be aware we very course the member will be aware we very deliberately course the member will be aware we very deliberately cancelled course the member will be aware we very deliberately cancelled those very deliberately cancelled those tax very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so that very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so that we very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so that we could very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so that we could invest very deliberately cancelled those tax cuts so that we could invest in tax cuts so that we could invest in the tax cuts so that we could invest in the low- tax cuts so that we could invest in the low- and tax cuts so that we could invest in the low- and middle-income tax cuts so that we could invest in the low- and middle-income New the low- and middle-income New Zealanders the low- and middle-income New Zealanders who the low- and middle-income New Zealanders who needed the low- and middle-income New Zealanders who needed that Zealanders who needed that investment Zealanders who needed that investment more Zealanders who needed that investment more than Zealanders who needed that investment more than the Zealanders who needed that investment more than the top Zealanders who needed that investment more than the top 10% Zealanders who needed that investment more than the top 10% of investment more than the top 10% of income investment more than the top 10% of income earners investment more than the top 10% of income earners who investment more than the top 10% of income earners who would investment more than the top 10% of income earners who would get investment more than the top 10% of income earners who would get $400 income earners who would get $400 million income earners who would get $400 million worth. income earners who would get $400 million worth. We income earners who would get $400 million worth. We have, income earners who would get $400 million worth. We have, however, million worth. We have, however, identified million worth. We have, however, identified that million worth. We have, however, identified that superannuants identified that superannuants experience identified that superannuants experience things identified that superannuants experience things like identified that superannuants experience things like winter experience things like winter poverty. experience things like winter poverty. We experience things like winter poverty. We would experience things like winter poverty. We would have experience things like winter poverty. We would have very experience things like winter poverty. We would have very much poverty. We would have very much liked poverty. We would have very much liked our poverty. We would have very much liked our payment poverty. We would have very much liked our payment to poverty. We would have very much liked our payment to come poverty. We would have very much liked our payment to come in liked our payment to come in earlier. liked our payment to come in earlier. It liked our payment to come in earlier. It starts liked our payment to come in earlier. It starts on liked our payment to come in earlier. It starts on 1 liked our payment to come in earlier. It starts on 1 July liked our payment to come in earlier. It starts on 1 July and earlier. It starts on 1 July and then earlier. It starts on 1 July and then it earlier. It starts on 1 July and then it runs earlier. It starts on 1 July and then it runs through earlier. It starts on 1 July and then it runs through to earlier. It starts on 1 July and then it runs through to September. then it runs through to September. When then it runs through to September. When it then it runs through to September. When it is then it runs through to September. When it is fully then it runs through to September. When it is fully implemented then it runs through to September. When it is fully implemented those When it is fully implemented those superannuants When it is fully implemented those superannuants can When it is fully implemented those superannuants can expect When it is fully implemented those superannuants can expect to When it is fully implemented those superannuants can expect to receive superannuants can expect to receive $700 superannuants can expect to receive $700 as superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a couple superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a couple or superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a couple or $450 superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a couple or $450 but superannuants can expect to receive $700 as a couple or $450 but this $700 as a couple or $450 but this year $700 as a couple or $450 but this year it $700 as a couple or $450 but this year it is $700 as a couple or $450 but this year it is less $700 as a couple or $450 but this year it is less than $700 as a couple or $450 but this year it is less than that year it is less than that unfortunately. year it is less than that unfortunately. How year it is less than that unfortunately. How can year it is less than that unfortunately. How can she year it is less than that unfortunately. How can she justify unfortunately. How can she justify waiting unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until 1 unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until 1 July unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until 1 July for unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until 1 July for the unfortunately. How can she justify waiting until 1 July for the Winter waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy Payment waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy Payment because waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy Payment because as waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy Payment because as she waiting until 1 July for the Winter Energy Payment because as she said Energy Payment because as she said previously, Energy Payment because as she said previously, it Energy Payment because as she said previously, it was Energy Payment because as she said previously, it was difficult Energy Payment because as she said previously, it was difficult to previously, it was difficult to implement previously, it was difficult to implement earlier previously, it was difficult to implement earlier and previously, it was difficult to implement earlier and yet previously, it was difficult to implement earlier and yet she previously, it was difficult to implement earlier and yet she could implement earlier and yet she could bring implement earlier and yet she could bring in implement earlier and yet she could bring in a implement earlier and yet she could bring in a fees-free implement earlier and yet she could bring in a fees-free policy implement earlier and yet she could bring in a fees-free policy on implement earlier and yet she could bring in a fees-free policy on 1 bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth $2. bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth $2. 8 bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth $2. 8 billion. bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth $2. 8 billion. As bring in a fees-free policy on 1 January worth $2. 8 billion. As the January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member would January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member would well January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member would well know, January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member would well know, having January worth $2. 8 billion. As the member would well know, having been member would well know, having been the member would well know, having been the Minister member would well know, having been the Minister of member would well know, having been the Minister of Social member would well know, having been the Minister of Social Development, the Minister of Social Development, making the Minister of Social Development, making the the Minister of Social Development, making the largest the Minister of Social Development, making the largest changes the Minister of Social Development, making the largest changes to the Minister of Social Development, making the largest changes to the making the largest changes to the welfare making the largest changes to the welfare system making the largest changes to the welfare system in making the largest changes to the welfare system in over making the largest changes to the welfare system in over a making the largest changes to the welfare system in over a decade making the largest changes to the welfare system in over a decade can welfare system in over a decade can be welfare system in over a decade can be a welfare system in over a decade can be a complex welfare system in over a decade can be a complex exercise. welfare system in over a decade can be a complex exercise. We be a complex exercise. We deliberately be a complex exercise. We deliberately create be a complex exercise. We deliberately create adminy be a complex exercise. We deliberately create adminy budget be a complex exercise. We deliberately create adminy budget in deliberately create adminy budget in December deliberately create adminy budget in December in deliberately create adminy budget in December in order deliberately create adminy budget in December in order to deliberately create adminy budget in December in order to expedite December in order to expedite bringing December in order to expedite bringing in December in order to expedite bringing in both December in order to expedite bringing in both the December in order to expedite bringing in both the Winter December in order to expedite bringing in both the Winter Energy bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, the bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, the best bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, the best start bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, the best start payment bringing in both the Winter Energy Payment, the best start payment and Payment, the best start payment and working Payment, the best start payment and working for Payment, the best start payment and working for families Payment, the best start payment and working for families changes Payment, the best start payment and working for families changes and working for families changes and managed working for families changes and managed to working for families changes and managed to do working for families changes and managed to do it working for families changes and managed to do it in working for families changes and managed to do it in a working for families changes and managed to do it in a time working for families changes and managed to do it in a time that working for families changes and managed to do it in a time that I managed to do it in a time that I think managed to do it in a time that I think even managed to do it in a time that I think even that managed to do it in a time that I think even that side managed to do it in a time that I think even that side of managed to do it in a time that I think even that side of the managed to do it in a time that I think even that side of the House think even that side of the House would think even that side of the House would have think even that side of the House would have found think even that side of the House would have found challenging think even that side of the House would have found challenging given would have found challenging given their would have found challenging given their tax would have found challenging given their tax cut would have found challenging given their tax cut changes would have found challenging given their tax cut changes didn't would have found challenging given their tax cut changes didn't come would have found challenging given their tax cut changes didn't come in their tax cut changes didn't come in until their tax cut changes didn't come in until the their tax cut changes didn't come in until the following their tax cut changes didn't come in until the following year. their tax cut changes didn't come in until the following year. Is their tax cut changes didn't come in until the following year. Is the their tax cut changes didn't come in until the following year. Is the PM until the following year. Is the PM really until the following year. Is the PM really leading until the following year. Is the PM really leading us until the following year. Is the PM really leading us to until the following year. Is the PM really leading us to believe until the following year. Is the PM really leading us to believe that until the following year. Is the PM really leading us to believe that it really leading us to believe that it would really leading us to believe that it would have really leading us to believe that it would have been really leading us to believe that it would have been harder really leading us to believe that it would have been harder to would have been harder to universally would have been harder to universally give would have been harder to universally give a would have been harder to universally give a one-off would have been harder to universally give a one-off payment universally give a one-off payment to universally give a one-off payment to all universally give a one-off payment to all superannuants universally give a one-off payment to all superannuants on universally give a one-off payment to all superannuants on 1 universally give a one-off payment to all superannuants on 1 May universally give a one-off payment to all superannuants on 1 May than to all superannuants on 1 May than it to all superannuants on 1 May than it is to all superannuants on 1 May than it is to to all superannuants on 1 May than it is to actually to all superannuants on 1 May than it is to actually do to all superannuants on 1 May than it is to actually do the it is to actually do the difficulties it is to actually do the difficulties of it is to actually do the difficulties of different it is to actually do the difficulties of different courses, difficulties of different courses, 294,000 difficulties of different courses, 294,000 students, difficulties of different courses, 294,000 students, on difficulties of different courses, 294,000 students, on 1 difficulties of different courses, 294,000 students, on 1 January difficulties of different courses, 294,000 students, on 1 January for 294,000 students, on 1 January for mixed 294,000 students, on 1 January for mixed payments? 294,000 students, on 1 January for mixed payments? Yes. 294,000 students, on 1 January for mixed payments? Yes. OK. mixed payments? Yes. OK. Supplementary. mixed payments? Yes. OK. Supplementary. Does mixed payments? Yes. OK. Supplementary. Does she mixed payments? Yes. OK. Supplementary. Does she agree mixed payments? Yes. OK. Supplementary. Does she agree with Supplementary. Does she agree with Education Supplementary. Does she agree with Education Minister Supplementary. Does she agree with Education Minister Chris Supplementary. Does she agree with Education Minister Chris Hipkins Education Minister Chris Hipkins that Education Minister Chris Hipkins that the Education Minister Chris Hipkins that the fees-free Education Minister Chris Hipkins that the fees-free policy Education Minister Chris Hipkins that the fees-free policy will Education Minister Chris Hipkins that the fees-free policy will drive that the fees-free policy will drive a that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in student that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in student numbers? a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into account a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into account that a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into account that we a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into account that we have a 15% increase in student numbers? Taking into account that we have to Taking into account that we have to reverse Taking into account that we have to reverse a Taking into account that we have to reverse a trend Taking into account that we have to reverse a trend under Taking into account that we have to reverse a trend under that Taking into account that we have to reverse a trend under that last reverse a trend under that last Government reverse a trend under that last Government of reverse a trend under that last Government of declining reverse a trend under that last Government of declining enrolment reverse a trend under that last Government of declining enrolment in Government of declining enrolment in post-secondary Government of declining enrolment in post-secondary education, Government of declining enrolment in post-secondary education, which Government of declining enrolment in post-secondary education, which we post-secondary education, which we are post-secondary education, which we are trying post-secondary education, which we are trying to post-secondary education, which we are trying to reverse... are trying to reverse... <INTERRUPTION> <INTERRUPTION> Order! <INTERRUPTION> Order! Which <INTERRUPTION> Order! Which we <INTERRUPTION> Order! Which we are <INTERRUPTION> Order! Which we are trying <INTERRUPTION> Order! Which we are trying to Order! Which we are trying to reverse. Order! Which we are trying to reverse. The Order! Which we are trying to reverse. The members Order! Which we are trying to reverse. The members on Order! Which we are trying to reverse. The members on the Order! Which we are trying to reverse. The members on the other reverse. The members on the other side reverse. The members on the other side of reverse. The members on the other side of the reverse. The members on the other side of the House reverse. The members on the other side of the House have reverse. The members on the other side of the House have taken reverse. The members on the other side of the House have taken and side of the House have taken and unfortunate side of the House have taken and unfortunate and side of the House have taken and unfortunate and narrow side of the House have taken and unfortunate and narrow view side of the House have taken and unfortunate and narrow view for side of the House have taken and unfortunate and narrow view for the unfortunate and narrow view for the need unfortunate and narrow view for the need for unfortunate and narrow view for the need for us unfortunate and narrow view for the need for us to unfortunate and narrow view for the need for us to have unfortunate and narrow view for the need for us to have a unfortunate and narrow view for the need for us to have a greater need for us to have a greater proportion need for us to have a greater proportion of need for us to have a greater proportion of our need for us to have a greater proportion of our population need for us to have a greater proportion of our population in proportion of our population in post-secondary proportion of our population in post-secondary education, proportion of our population in post-secondary education, that post-secondary education, that includes post-secondary education, that includes those post-secondary education, that includes those who post-secondary education, that includes those who have post-secondary education, that includes those who have never includes those who have never studied includes those who have never studied before includes those who have never studied before who includes those who have never studied before who might includes those who have never studied before who might be includes those who have never studied before who might be factory studied before who might be factory floor studied before who might be factory floor or studied before who might be factory floor or McDonald's studied before who might be factory floor or McDonald's workers studied before who might be factory floor or McDonald's workers to floor or McDonald's workers to retrain floor or McDonald's workers to retrain and floor or McDonald's workers to retrain and boost floor or McDonald's workers to retrain and boost our floor or McDonald's workers to retrain and boost our productivity retrain and boost our productivity and retrain and boost our productivity and transform retrain and boost our productivity and transform our retrain and boost our productivity and transform our economy? retrain and boost our productivity and transform our economy? Let retrain and boost our productivity and transform our economy? Let me and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so does and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so does she and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so does she agree and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so does she agree with and transform our economy? Let me rephrase, so does she agree with the rephrase, so does she agree with the Education rephrase, so does she agree with the Education Minister rephrase, so does she agree with the Education Minister that rephrase, so does she agree with the Education Minister that the Education Minister that the fees-free Education Minister that the fees-free policy Education Minister that the fees-free policy will Education Minister that the fees-free policy will drive Education Minister that the fees-free policy will drive a Education Minister that the fees-free policy will drive a 15% fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in student fees-free policy will drive a 15% increase in student numbers, increase in student numbers, particularly increase in student numbers, particularly as increase in student numbers, particularly as she increase in student numbers, particularly as she just increase in student numbers, particularly as she just said, increase in student numbers, particularly as she just said, and particularly as she just said, and accusedous particularly as she just said, and accusedous of particularly as she just said, and accusedous of not particularly as she just said, and accusedous of not agrees... particularly as she just said, and accusedous of not agrees... 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The point that I was making was that we had declining making was that we had declining enrolment making was that we had declining enrolment numbers. making was that we had declining enrolment numbers. In making was that we had declining enrolment numbers. In fact, making was that we had declining enrolment numbers. In fact, we making was that we had declining enrolment numbers. In fact, we did enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point out enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point out that enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point out that actually enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point out that actually over enrolment numbers. In fact, we did point out that actually over the point out that actually over the last point out that actually over the last - point out that actually over the last - for point out that actually over the last - for the point out that actually over the last - for the last point out that actually over the last - for the last year point out that actually over the last - for the last year our last - for the last year our expectations last - for the last year our expectations were last - for the last year our expectations were lower last - for the last year our expectations were lower than last - for the last year our expectations were lower than that. expectations were lower than that. We expectations were lower than that. We know expectations were lower than that. We know we expectations were lower than that. We know we have expectations were lower than that. We know we have to expectations were lower than that. We know we have to make expectations were lower than that. We know we have to make up expectations were lower than that. We know we have to make up ground We know we have to make up ground because, We know we have to make up ground because, as We know we have to make up ground because, as I've We know we have to make up ground because, as I've said, We know we have to make up ground because, as I've said, there We know we have to make up ground because, as I've said, there was We know we have to make up ground because, as I've said, there was a because, as I've said, there was a tendency because, as I've said, there was a tendency for because, as I've said, there was a tendency for post-secondary tendency for post-secondary education tendency for post-secondary education to tendency for post-secondary education to start tendency for post-secondary education to start declining tendency for post-secondary education to start declining and tendency for post-secondary education to start declining and we education to start declining and we are education to start declining and we are trying education to start declining and we are trying to education to start declining and we are trying to reverse education to start declining and we are trying to reverse that education to start declining and we are trying to reverse that trend. education to start declining and we are trying to reverse that trend. I are trying to reverse that trend. I would are trying to reverse that trend. I would have are trying to reverse that trend. I would have thought are trying to reverse that trend. I would have thought the are trying to reverse that trend. I would have thought the other are trying to reverse that trend. I would have thought the other side are trying to reverse that trend. 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What were going through the roof. What alternative... were going through the roof. What alternative... <INTERRUPTION> alternative... <INTERRUPTION> What alternative... <INTERRUPTION> What alternatives alternative... <INTERRUPTION> What alternatives are alternative... <INTERRUPTION> What alternatives are there alternative... <INTERRUPTION> What alternatives are there to What alternatives are there to increases What alternatives are there to increases in What alternatives are there to increases in exist What alternatives are there to increases in exist increases? What alternatives are there to increases in exist increases? -- increases in exist increases? -- excise increases in exist increases? -- excise increases? increases in exist increases? -- excise increases? The increases in exist increases? -- excise increases? The reality increases in exist increases? -- excise increases? The reality is excise increases? The reality is pretty excise increases? 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If we will have less revenue to pay for transport revenue to pay for transport project, revenue to pay for transport project, we revenue to pay for transport project, we would revenue to pay for transport project, we would have revenue to pay for transport project, we would have to revenue to pay for transport project, we would have to run revenue to pay for transport project, we would have to run more project, we would have to run more debt, project, we would have to run more debt, cancel project, we would have to run more debt, cancel more project, we would have to run more debt, cancel more projects project, we would have to run more debt, cancel more projects or project, we would have to run more debt, cancel more projects or both. debt, cancel more projects or both. The debt, cancel more projects or both. The Opposition debt, cancel more projects or both. The Opposition is debt, cancel more projects or both. The Opposition is asking debt, cancel more projects or both. The Opposition is asking us The Opposition is asking us simultaneously The Opposition is asking us simultaneously to The Opposition is asking us simultaneously to have The Opposition is asking us simultaneously to have less The Opposition is asking us simultaneously to have less revenue, simultaneously to have less revenue, run simultaneously to have less revenue, run less simultaneously to have less revenue, run less debt simultaneously to have less revenue, run less debt and simultaneously to have less revenue, run less debt and spend simultaneously to have less revenue, run less debt and spend more. simultaneously to have less revenue, run less debt and spend more. The run less debt and spend more. The maths run less debt and spend more. The maths just run less debt and spend more. The maths just don't run less debt and spend more. The maths just don't add run less debt and spend more. The maths just don't add up run less debt and spend more. The maths just don't add up and run less debt and spend more. The maths just don't add up and all maths just don't add up and all those maths just don't add up and all those demands maths just don't add up and all those demands came maths just don't add up and all those demands came from maths just don't add up and all those demands came from the maths just don't add up and all those demands came from the same those demands came from the same party. those demands came from the same party. That those demands came from the same party. That member those demands came from the same party. That member needs those demands came from the same party. That member needs to those demands came from the same party. That member needs to come party. That member needs to come clean party. That member needs to come clean and party. That member needs to come clean and tell party. That member needs to come clean and tell New party. That member needs to come clean and tell New Zealanders party. That member needs to come clean and tell New Zealanders what clean and tell New Zealanders what projects clean and tell New Zealanders what projects he clean and tell New Zealanders what projects he would clean and tell New Zealanders what projects he would cut. Has Has the Has the Minister Has the Minister seen Has the Minister seen reports Has the Minister seen reports that Has the Minister seen reports that between Has the Minister seen reports that between January Has the Minister seen reports that between January and Has the Minister seen reports that between January and June Has the Minister seen reports that between January and June 2015 Has the Minister seen reports that between January and June 2015 petrol between January and June 2015 petrol prices between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased by between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased by 40 between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased by 40 cent between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased by 40 cent a between January and June 2015 petrol prices increased by 40 cent a litre, prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but then prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but then Minister prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but then Minister Bridges prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but then Minister Bridges went prices increased by 40 cent a litre, but then Minister Bridges went ahead but then Minister Bridges went ahead with but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an excise but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an excise increase but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an excise increase in but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an excise increase in July? but then Minister Bridges went ahead with an excise increase in July? I with an excise increase in July? I have with an excise increase in July? I have seen with an excise increase in July? I have seen reports with an excise increase in July? I have seen reports that with an excise increase in July? I have seen reports that show with an excise increase in July? I have seen reports that show that have seen reports that show that petrol have seen reports that show that petrol went have seen reports that show that petrol went up have seen reports that show that petrol went up by have seen reports that show that petrol went up by 40 have seen reports that show that petrol went up by 40 cents have seen reports that show that petrol went up by 40 cents a have seen reports that show that petrol went up by 40 cents a litre petrol went up by 40 cents a litre with petrol went up by 40 cents a litre during that period... petrol went up by 40 cents a litre during that period... Order! petrol went up by 40 cents a litre during that period... Order! Thank during that period... Order! Thank you. during that period... Order! Thank you. Jami-Lee during that period... Order! Thank you. Jami-Lee Ross? during that period... Order! Thank you. Jami-Lee Ross? Question during that period... Order! Thank you. Jami-Lee Ross? Question No. during that period... Order! Thank you. Jami-Lee Ross? Question No. 6. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Housing My question is to the Minister of Housing and My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: My question is to the Minister of Housing and Urban Development: How Housing and Urban Development: How will Housing and Urban Development: How will Budget Housing and Urban Development: How will Budget 2018 Housing and Urban Development: How will Budget 2018 start Housing and Urban Development: How will Budget 2018 start the will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding of will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding of public will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding of public housing will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding of public housing in will Budget 2018 start the rebuilding of public housing in New rebuilding of public housing in New Zealand? Through Through Budget Through Budget 2018 Through Budget 2018 the Through Budget 2018 the Government Through Budget 2018 the Government will Through Budget 2018 the Government will add Through Budget 2018 the Government will add a Through Budget 2018 the Government will add a net Through Budget 2018 the Government will add a net additional Through Budget 2018 the Government will add a net additional 6,400 will add a net additional 6,400 public will add a net additional 6,400 public homes will add a net additional 6,400 public homes - will add a net additional 6,400 public homes - that will add a net additional 6,400 public homes - that is will add a net additional 6,400 public homes - that is homes public homes - that is homes provided public homes - that is homes provided by public homes - that is homes provided by Housing public homes - that is homes provided by Housing New public homes - that is homes provided by Housing New Zealand public homes - that is homes provided by Housing New Zealand and provided by Housing New Zealand and community provided by Housing New Zealand and community housing provided by Housing New Zealand and community housing providers provided by Housing New Zealand and community housing providers - provided by Housing New Zealand and community housing providers - for community housing providers - for families community housing providers - for families in community housing providers - for families in need, community housing providers - for families in need, and community housing providers - for families in need, and also community housing providers - for families in need, and also expand families in need, and also expand the families in need, and also expand the housing families in need, and also expand the housing First families in need, and also expand the housing First programme. families in need, and also expand the housing First programme. As families in need, and also expand the housing First programme. As at the housing First programme. As at 31 the housing First programme. As at 31 March the housing First programme. As at 31 March this the housing First programme. As at 31 March this year, the housing First programme. As at 31 March this year, there the housing First programme. As at 31 March this year, there were 31 March this year, there were 66,582 31 March this year, there were 66,582 public 31 March this year, there were 66,582 public housing 31 March this year, there were 66,582 public housing places 31 March this year, there were 66,582 public housing places N 31 March this year, there were 66,582 public housing places N four 66,582 public housing places N four years' 66,582 public housing places N four years' time 66,582 public housing places N four years' time that 66,582 public housing places N four years' time that number 66,582 public housing places N four years' time that number will years' time that number will increase years' time that number will increase to years' time that number will increase to over years' time that number will increase to over up years' time that number will increase to over up 73,000 years' time that number will increase to over up 73,000 homes. increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 is increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 is the increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 is the first increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 is the first step increase to over up 73,000 homes. Budget 2018 is the first step in Budget 2018 is the first step in rebuilding Budget 2018 is the first step in rebuilding public Budget 2018 is the first step in rebuilding public housing. Budget 2018 is the first step in rebuilding public housing. How Budget 2018 is the first step in rebuilding public housing. How does rebuilding public housing. How does this rebuilding public housing. How does this increase rebuilding public housing. How does this increase compare rebuilding public housing. How does this increase compare to rebuilding public housing. How does this increase compare to recent this increase compare to recent years? this increase compare to recent years? The this increase compare to recent years? The number this increase compare to recent years? The number of this increase compare to recent years? The number of public this increase compare to recent years? The number of public houses years? The number of public houses decreased years? The number of public houses decreased by years? The number of public houses decreased by 1,500 years? The number of public houses decreased by 1,500 and years? The number of public houses decreased by 1,500 and the years? The number of public houses decreased by 1,500 and the number years? The number of public houses decreased by 1,500 and the number of decreased by 1,500 and the number of state decreased by 1,500 and the number of state houses decreased by 1,500 and the number of state houses decreased decreased by 1,500 and the number of state houses decreased by decreased by 1,500 and the number of state houses decreased by 6,000 decreased by 1,500 and the number of state houses decreased by 6,000 over state houses decreased by 6,000 over the state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last decade. state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last decade. It's state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last decade. It's going state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last decade. It's going to state houses decreased by 6,000 over the last decade. It's going to take the last decade. It's going to take a the last decade. It's going to take a long the last decade. It's going to take a long time the last decade. It's going to take a long time to the last decade. It's going to take a long time to catch the last decade. It's going to take a long time to catch up the last decade. It's going to take a long time to catch up on the last decade. It's going to take a long time to catch up on a the last decade. It's going to take a long time to catch up on a decade a long time to catch up on a decade of a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, but a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, but Budget a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, but Budget 2018 a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, but Budget 2018 is a long time to catch up on a decade of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first step of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first step in of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first step in ensuring of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first step in ensuring that of neglect, but Budget 2018 is the first step in ensuring that every first step in ensuring that every Kiwi first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family has first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family has a first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family has a warm, first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family has a warm, dry first step in ensuring that every Kiwi family has a warm, dry and Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure roof Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure roof over Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure roof over their Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure roof over their heads. Kiwi family has a warm, dry and secure roof over their heads. Where secure roof over their heads. Where will secure roof over their heads. Where will these secure roof over their heads. Where will these public secure roof over their heads. Where will these public houses secure roof over their heads. Where will these public houses be secure roof over their heads. Where will these public houses be built? will these public houses be built? We will these public houses be built? We need will these public houses be built? We need to will these public houses be built? We need to build will these public houses be built? We need to build more will these public houses be built? We need to build more public will these public houses be built? We need to build more public houses We need to build more public houses in We need to build more public houses in every We need to build more public houses in every community. We need to build more public houses in every community. Yes, We need to build more public houses in every community. Yes, even We need to build more public houses in every community. Yes, even in in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. Around in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. Around 3,500 in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. Around 3,500 houses in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will in every community. Yes, even in Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Auckland Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Auckland with Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Auckland with the Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Auckland with the balance Epsom. Around 3,500 houses will be in Auckland with the balance being in Auckland with the balance being in in Auckland with the balance being in parts in Auckland with the balance being in parts of in Auckland with the balance being in parts of New in Auckland with the balance being in parts of New Zealand in Auckland with the balance being in parts of New Zealand where in Auckland with the balance being in parts of New Zealand where the in parts of New Zealand where the need in parts of New Zealand where the need is in parts of New Zealand where the need is greatest, in parts of New Zealand where the need is greatest, such in parts of New Zealand where the need is greatest, such as in parts of New Zealand where the need is greatest, such as Hastings, need is greatest, such as Hastings, which need is greatest, such as Hastings, which recently need is greatest, such as Hastings, which recently saw need is greatest, such as Hastings, which recently saw an need is greatest, such as Hastings, which recently saw an increase need is greatest, such as Hastings, which recently saw an increase in which recently saw an increase in the which recently saw an increase in the housing which recently saw an increase in the housing wait which recently saw an increase in the housing wait list which recently saw an increase in the housing wait list of which recently saw an increase in the housing wait list of 86%. which recently saw an increase in the housing wait list of 86%. These the housing wait list of 86%. These families the housing wait list of 86%. These families will the housing wait list of 86%. These families will enhance the housing wait list of 86%. These families will enhance the families will enhance the communities families will enhance the communities they families will enhance the communities they move families will enhance the communities they move into, families will enhance the communities they move into, and families will enhance the communities they move into, and I'm communities they move into, and I'm proud communities they move into, and I'm proud of communities they move into, and I'm proud of this communities they move into, and I'm proud of this Government's proud of this Government's commitment proud of this Government's commitment to proud of this Government's commitment to rebuilding proud of this Government's commitment to rebuilding public commitment to rebuilding public housing. commitment to rebuilding public housing. Hear, commitment to rebuilding public housing. Hear, hear. commitment to rebuilding public housing. Hear, hear. Question commitment to rebuilding public housing. Hear, hear. Question No. commitment to rebuilding public housing. Hear, hear. Question No. 7. My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Education: My question is to the Minister of Education: Does My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by all My question is to the Minister of Education: Does he stand by all his Education: Does he stand by all his promises Education: Does he stand by all his promises in Education: Does he stand by all his promises in education; Education: Does he stand by all his promises in education; if Education: Does he stand by all his promises in education; if so, Education: Does he stand by all his promises in education; if so, does promises in education; if so, does he promises in education; if so, does he stand promises in education; if so, does he stand by promises in education; if so, does he stand by his promises in education; if so, does he stand by his statement promises in education; if so, does he stand by his statement in he stand by his statement in February he stand by his statement in February 2018 he stand by his statement in February 2018 regarding he stand by his statement in February 2018 regarding ending February 2018 regarding ending school February 2018 regarding ending school donations, February 2018 regarding ending school donations, "As February 2018 regarding ending school donations, "As it February 2018 regarding ending school donations, "As it is February 2018 regarding ending school donations, "As it is Budget school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive I school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive I can't school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive I can't comment school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive I can't comment further school donations, "As it is Budget sensitive I can't comment further at sensitive I can't comment further at this sensitive I can't comment further at this point"? Yes Yes and Yes and yes. Yes and yes. Why Yes and yes. Why did Yes and yes. Why did he Yes and yes. Why did he say Yes and yes. Why did he say in Yes and yes. Why did he say in January Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to the Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to the Nelson Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to the Nelson Mail Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to the Nelson Mail that Yes and yes. Why did he say in January to the Nelson Mail that a January to the Nelson Mail that a school January to the Nelson Mail that a school donations January to the Nelson Mail that a school donations proposal January to the Nelson Mail that a school donations proposal was school donations proposal was working school donations proposal was working its school donations proposal was working its way school donations proposal was working its way through school donations proposal was working its way through Cabinet, school donations proposal was working its way through Cabinet, and working its way through Cabinet, and this working its way through Cabinet, and this restricts working its way through Cabinet, and this restricts me working its way through Cabinet, and this restricts me from working its way through Cabinet, and this restricts me from making working its way through Cabinet, and this restricts me from making any this restricts me from making any comment this restricts me from making any comment further this restricts me from making any comment further at this restricts me from making any comment further at this this restricts me from making any comment further at this stage, this restricts me from making any comment further at this stage, and comment further at this stage, and when comment further at this stage, and when did comment further at this stage, and when did that comment further at this stage, and when did that schools comment further at this stage, and when did that schools donation when did that schools donation Cabinet when did that schools donation Cabinet paper when did that schools donation Cabinet paper go when did that schools donation Cabinet paper go through? when did that schools donation Cabinet paper go through? Because when did that schools donation Cabinet paper go through? Because it Cabinet paper go through? Because it was Cabinet paper go through? Because it was working Cabinet paper go through? Because it was working its Cabinet paper go through? Because it was working its way Cabinet paper go through? Because it was working its way through Cabinet paper go through? Because it was working its way through the was working its way through the process. was working its way through the process. It was working its way through the process. It was was working its way through the process. It was called was working its way through the process. It was called the was working its way through the process. It was called the Budget process. It was called the Budget process. process. It was called the Budget process. Will process. It was called the Budget process. Will he process. It was called the Budget process. Will he reimburse process. It was called the Budget process. Will he reimburse schools process. Will he reimburse schools and process. Will he reimburse schools and parents process. Will he reimburse schools and parents who process. Will he reimburse schools and parents who are process. Will he reimburse schools and parents who are contacting and parents who are contacting electorate and parents who are contacting electorate offices and parents who are contacting electorate offices saying and parents who are contacting electorate offices saying they electorate offices saying they relied electorate offices saying they relied on electorate offices saying they relied on his electorate offices saying they relied on his broken electorate offices saying they relied on his broken promise electorate offices saying they relied on his broken promise to electorate offices saying they relied on his broken promise to end relied on his broken promise to end school relied on his broken promise to end school donations relied on his broken promise to end school donations in relied on his broken promise to end school donations in the relied on his broken promise to end school donations in the first school donations in the first budget, school donations in the first budget, and school donations in the first budget, and how school donations in the first budget, and how will school donations in the first budget, and how will they school donations in the first budget, and how will they find budget, and how will they find funding budget, and how will they find funding from budget, and how will they find funding from somewhere budget, and how will they find funding from somewhere else? budget, and how will they find funding from somewhere else? The funding from somewhere else? The Government funding from somewhere else? The Government has funding from somewhere else? The Government has been funding from somewhere else? The Government has been very funding from somewhere else? The Government has been very clear funding from somewhere else? The Government has been very clear - funding from somewhere else? The Government has been very clear - we Government has been very clear - we have Government has been very clear - we have three Government has been very clear - we have three budgets Government has been very clear - we have three budgets on Government has been very clear - we have three budgets on which Government has been very clear - we have three budgets on which to have three budgets on which to deliver have three budgets on which to deliver the have three budgets on which to deliver the commitments have three budgets on which to deliver the commitments we have three budgets on which to deliver the commitments we made have three budgets on which to deliver the commitments we made in deliver the commitments we made in the deliver the commitments we made in the speech deliver the commitments we made in the speech from deliver the commitments we made in the speech from the deliver the commitments we made in the speech from the throne. deliver the commitments we made in the speech from the throne. We deliver the commitments we made in the speech from the throne. We have the speech from the throne. We have thus the speech from the throne. We have thus far the speech from the throne. We have thus far delivered the speech from the throne. We have thus far delivered one the speech from the throne. We have thus far delivered one of the speech from the throne. We have thus far delivered one of the the speech from the throne. We have thus far delivered one of the three thus far delivered one of the three budgets. thus far delivered one of the three budgets. Will thus far delivered one of the three budgets. Will he thus far delivered one of the three budgets. Will he promise thus far delivered one of the three budgets. Will he promise that budgets. Will he promise that funding budgets. Will he promise that funding will budgets. Will he promise that funding will be budgets. Will he promise that funding will be provided budgets. Will he promise that funding will be provided in budgets. Will he promise that funding will be provided in Budget funding will be provided in Budget 2019 funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to end funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to end school funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to end school donations? funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to end school donations? All funding will be provided in Budget 2019 to end school donations? All of 2019 to end school donations? All of the 2019 to end school donations? All of the commitments 2019 to end school donations? All of the commitments in 2019 to end school donations? All of the commitments in the 2019 to end school donations? All of the commitments in the speech 2019 to end school donations? All of the commitments in the speech from the commitments in the speech from the the commitments in the speech from the throne the commitments in the speech from the throne are the commitments in the speech from the throne are subject the commitments in the speech from the throne are subject to the commitments in the speech from the throne are subject to further the throne are subject to further budget the throne are subject to further budget consideration the throne are subject to further budget consideration if the throne are subject to further budget consideration if they the throne are subject to further budget consideration if they weren't budget consideration if they weren't funded budget consideration if they weren't funded in budget consideration if they weren't funded in this budget consideration if they weren't funded in this year's budget consideration if they weren't funded in this year's being. budget consideration if they weren't funded in this year's being. 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How does he supplementary question. Sorry. How does he justify supplementary question. Sorry. How does he justify breaking supplementary question. Sorry. 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My My question My question is My question is to My question is to the My question is to the Minister My question is to the Minister of My question is to the Minister of Energy My question is to the Minister of Energy and My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What is My question is to the Minister of Energy and Resources: What is she Energy and Resources: What is she doing Energy and Resources: What is she doing to Energy and Resources: What is she doing to promote Energy and Resources: What is she doing to promote informed Energy and Resources: What is she doing to promote informed investment doing to promote informed investment decisions doing to promote informed investment decisions about doing to promote informed investment decisions about minerals doing to promote informed investment decisions about minerals exploration decisions about minerals exploration and decisions about minerals exploration and production, decisions about minerals exploration and production, as decisions about minerals exploration and production, as required decisions about minerals exploration and production, as required by decisions about minerals exploration and production, as required by the and production, as required by the Crown and production, as required by the Crown Minerals and production, as required by the Crown Minerals Act and production, as required by the Crown Minerals Act 1991? 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Since becoming Minister I have been engaging with a Minister I have been engaging with a range Minister I have been engaging with a range of Minister I have been engaging with a range of stakeholders, Minister I have been engaging with a range of stakeholders, where Minister I have been engaging with a range of stakeholders, where mineral range of stakeholders, where mineral exploration range of stakeholders, where mineral exploration and range of stakeholders, where mineral exploration and production range of stakeholders, where mineral exploration and production have range of stakeholders, where mineral exploration and production have been exploration and production have been discussed. exploration and production have been discussed. For exploration and production have been discussed. For example, exploration and production have been discussed. For example, next exploration and production have been discussed. For example, next weekly discussed. For example, next weekly be discussed. 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I visited a gold discuss Government direction and policies. I visited a gold mine. discuss Government direction and policies. I visited a gold mine. I policies. I visited a gold mine. I also policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that in policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that in March policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that in March this policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that in March this year policies. I visited a gold mine. I also note that in March this year my also note that in March this year my officials also note that in March this year my officials from also note that in March this year my officials from the also note that in March this year my officials from the Ministry also note that in March this year my officials from the Ministry of officials from the Ministry of Business, officials from the Ministry of Business, Innovation officials from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and officials from the Ministry of Business, Innovation and Employment Business, Innovation and Employment participated Business, Innovation and Employment participated in Business, Innovation and Employment participated in a Business, Innovation and Employment participated in a large participated in a large international participated in a large international showcase participated in a large international showcase in participated in a large international showcase in Canada participated in a large international showcase in Canada to international showcase in Canada to promote international showcase in Canada to promote investment international showcase in Canada to promote investment in international showcase in Canada to promote investment in New international showcase in Canada to promote investment in New Zealand's promote investment in New Zealand's mineral promote investment in New Zealand's mineral potential. promote investment in New Zealand's mineral potential. Did promote investment in New Zealand's mineral potential. Did she promote investment in New Zealand's mineral potential. Did she intend mineral potential. Did she intend her mineral potential. Did she intend her decision mineral potential. Did she intend her decision to mineral potential. Did she intend her decision to end mineral potential. Did she intend her decision to end new mineral potential. Did she intend her decision to end new offshore her decision to end new offshore exploration her decision to end new offshore exploration to her decision to end new offshore exploration to be her decision to end new offshore exploration to be a her decision to end new offshore exploration to be a signal her decision to end new offshore exploration to be a signal to her decision to end new offshore exploration to be a signal to the exploration to be a signal to the international exploration to be a signal to the international investors exploration to be a signal to the international investors and exploration to be a signal to the international investors and bankers international investors and bankers to international investors and bankers to avoid international investors and bankers to avoid New international investors and bankers to avoid New Zealand international investors and bankers to avoid New Zealand exploration international investors and bankers to avoid New Zealand exploration as to avoid New Zealand exploration as that to avoid New Zealand exploration as that has to avoid New Zealand exploration as that has been to avoid New Zealand exploration as that has been the to avoid New Zealand exploration as that has been the outcome? to avoid New Zealand exploration as that has been the outcome? 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I I have I have full I have full confidence I have full confidence in I have full confidence in housing I have full confidence in housing New I have full confidence in housing New Zealand I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I expect I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I expect to I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I expect to ramp I have full confidence in housing New Zealand that I expect to ramp up New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its building New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its building of New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its building of public New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its building of public housing New Zealand that I expect to ramp up its building of public housing to its building of public housing to help its building of public housing to help address its building of public housing to help address the its building of public housing to help address the national its building of public housing to help address the national housing help address the national housing crisis. help address the national housing crisis. 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Housing New Zealand has applied to Auckland Council for applied to Auckland Council for resource applied to Auckland Council for resource consent applied to Auckland Council for resource consent to applied to Auckland Council for resource consent to redevelop applied to Auckland Council for resource consent to redevelop their resource consent to redevelop their property resource consent to redevelop their property at resource consent to redevelop their property at Banff resource consent to redevelop their property at Banff Avenue, resource consent to redevelop their property at Banff Avenue, the property at Banff Avenue, the biggest property at Banff Avenue, the biggest of property at Banff Avenue, the biggest of the property at Banff Avenue, the biggest of the two property at Banff Avenue, the biggest of the two 1970s property at Banff Avenue, the biggest of the two 1970s buildings biggest of the two 1970s buildings on biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is a biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is a fire biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is a fire risk biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is a fire risk and biggest of the two 1970s buildings on the site is a fire risk and has on the site is a fire risk and has on on the site is a fire risk and has been on the site is a fire risk and has been empty for some on the site is a fire risk and has been empty for some time. on the site is a fire risk and has been empty for some time. Housing been empty for some time. Housing New been empty for some time. Housing New Zealand been empty for some time. Housing New Zealand would been empty for some time. Housing New Zealand would like been empty for some time. Housing New Zealand would like to been empty for some time. Housing New Zealand would like to replace New Zealand would like to replace the New Zealand would like to replace the two New Zealand would like to replace the two buildings New Zealand would like to replace the two buildings with New Zealand would like to replace the two buildings with 25, New Zealand would like to replace the two buildings with 25, warm, the two buildings with 25, warm, dry, the two buildings with 25, warm, dry, modern the two buildings with 25, warm, dry, modern home, the two buildings with 25, warm, dry, modern home, including the two buildings with 25, warm, dry, modern home, including five dry, modern home, including five units dry, modern home, including five units for dry, modern home, including five units for tenants dry, modern home, including five units for tenants with dry, modern home, including five units for tenants with accessibility units for tenants with accessibility needs. 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He to the worst kind of NIMBYism and people's prejudices. He should to the worst kind of NIMBYism and people's prejudices. He should show people's prejudices. He should show some people's prejudices. He should show some leadership people's prejudices. He should show some leadership in people's prejudices. He should show some leadership in his people's prejudices. He should show some leadership in his electorate. some leadership in his electorate. Michael some leadership in his electorate. Michael Wood. some leadership in his electorate. Michael Wood. What some leadership in his electorate. Michael Wood. What statements some leadership in his electorate. Michael Wood. What statements has some leadership in his electorate. Michael Wood. What statements has he Michael Wood. What statements has he seen Michael Wood. What statements has he seen about Michael Wood. What statements has he seen about future Michael Wood. What statements has he seen about future tenants Michael Wood. 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He can't use Patsy questions from the Government to coming. He can't use Patsy questions from the Government to attack coming. He can't use Patsy questions from the Government to attack an from the Government to attack an Opposition from the Government to attack an Opposition member. from the Government to attack an Opposition member. One from the Government to attack an Opposition member. One statement Opposition member. One statement that Opposition member. One statement that I Opposition member. One statement that I have Opposition member. One statement that I have seen Opposition member. One statement that I have seen is Opposition member. One statement that I have seen is the Opposition member. 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What efforts does Housing New What efforts does Housing New Zealand What efforts does Housing New Zealand do What efforts does Housing New Zealand do to What efforts does Housing New Zealand do to make What efforts does Housing New Zealand do to make sure What efforts does Housing New Zealand do to make sure that What efforts does Housing New Zealand do to make sure that tenants Zealand do to make sure that tenants in Zealand do to make sure that tenants in their Zealand do to make sure that tenants in their new Zealand do to make sure that tenants in their new development Zealand do to make sure that tenants in their new development feel in their new development feel welcomed in their new development feel welcomed by in their new development feel welcomed by the in their new development feel welcomed by the local in their new development feel welcomed by the local community? welcomed by the local community? Many welcomed by the local community? Many Housing welcomed by the local community? Many Housing New welcomed by the local community? Many Housing New Zealand welcomed by the local community? Many Housing New Zealand tenants Many Housing New Zealand tenants have Many Housing New Zealand tenants have been Many Housing New Zealand tenants have been through Many Housing New Zealand tenants have been through tough Many Housing New Zealand tenants have been through tough times, Many Housing New Zealand tenants have been through tough times, are have been through tough times, are elderly have been through tough times, are elderly or have been through tough times, are elderly or have have been through tough times, are elderly or have disabilities have been through tough times, are elderly or have disabilities which elderly or have disabilities which means elderly or have disabilities which means they elderly or have disabilities which means they need elderly or have disabilities which means they need help elderly or have disabilities which means they need help with elderly or have disabilities which means they need help with their means they need help with their accommodation. means they need help with their accommodation. That means they need help with their accommodation. That is means they need help with their accommodation. That is what means they need help with their accommodation. That is what state accommodation. That is what state housing accommodation. That is what state housing is accommodation. That is what state housing is for accommodation. That is what state housing is for and accommodation. That is what state housing is for and for accommodation. That is what state housing is for and for these accommodation. 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He will apologise to the House now for breaching my direct House now for breaching my direct instruction House now for breaching my direct instruction to House now for breaching my direct instruction to him. House now for breaching my direct instruction to him. Two instruction to him. Two supplementary instruction to him. Two supplementary questions instruction to him. Two supplementary questions ago instruction to him. 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