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Almighty Almighty God, Almighty God, we Almighty God, we give Almighty God, we give thanks Almighty God, we give thanks for Almighty God, we give thanks for the Almighty God, we give thanks for the blessings we give thanks for the blessings which we give thanks for the blessings which have we give thanks for the blessings which have been we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on we give thanks for the blessings which have been bestowed on us. which have been bestowed on us. Laying which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal which have been bestowed on us. Laying aside all personal interests, Laying aside all personal interests, we Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Laying aside all personal interests, we acknowledge the Queen we acknowledge the Queen and we acknowledge the Queen and pray we acknowledge the Queen and pray for we acknowledge the Queen and pray for guidance and pray for guidance in and pray for guidance in our and pray for guidance in our deliberations, in our deliberations, that in our deliberations, that we in our deliberations, that we may in our deliberations, that we may conduct that we may conduct the that we may conduct the affairs that we may conduct the affairs of that we may conduct the affairs of this that we may conduct the affairs of this House the affairs of this House with the affairs of this House with wisdom, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, the affairs of this House with wisdom, justice, mercy, with wisdom, justice, mercy, and with wisdom, justice, mercy, and humility and humility for and humility for the and humility for the welfare and humility for the welfare and and humility for the welfare and peace for the welfare and peace of for the welfare and peace of New for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. for the welfare and peace of New Zealand. 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Mr Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was not Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was not always Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was not always acting Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was not always acting as Speaker, the former PM, Mr Key, said that he was not always acting as the that he was not always acting as the PM, that he was not always acting as the PM, and that he was not always acting as the PM, and he that he was not always acting as the PM, and he gave that he was not always acting as the PM, and he gave examples, that he was not always acting as the PM, and he gave examples, such that he was not always acting as the PM, and he gave examples, such as PM, and he gave examples, such as when PM, and he gave examples, such as when he PM, and he gave examples, such as when he was PM, and he gave examples, such as when he was puking PM, and he gave examples, such as when he was puking -- PM, and he gave examples, such as when he was puking -- putting PM, and he gave examples, such as when he was puking -- putting the when he was puking -- putting the cat when he was puking -- putting the cat out. when he was puking -- putting the cat out. 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I think they have highlighted something which is an highlighted something which is an important highlighted something which is an important issue, highlighted something which is an important issue, and highlighted something which is an important issue, and one highlighted something which is an important issue, and one which highlighted something which is an important issue, and one which I important issue, and one which I think, important issue, and one which I think, in important issue, and one which I think, in New important issue, and one which I think, in New Zealand, important issue, and one which I think, in New Zealand, we important issue, and one which I think, in New Zealand, we haven't think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got our think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got our heads think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got our heads around. think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got our heads around. I think, in New Zealand, we haven't quite got our heads around. I was quite got our heads around. I was reminded quite got our heads around. I was reminded earlier quite got our heads around. I was reminded earlier today quite got our heads around. I was reminded earlier today of quite got our heads around. I was reminded earlier today of some reminded earlier today of some comments, reminded earlier today of some comments, I reminded earlier today of some comments, I think, reminded earlier today of some comments, I think, attributed reminded earlier today of some comments, I think, attributed to reminded earlier today of some comments, I think, attributed to the comments, I think, attributed to the honourable comments, I think, attributed to the honourable Mr comments, I think, attributed to the honourable Mr Finlayson, comments, I think, attributed to the honourable Mr Finlayson, when comments, I think, attributed to the honourable Mr Finlayson, when he honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred to honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred to the honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred to the Roman honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred to the Roman habit honourable Mr Finlayson, when he referred to the Roman habit of referred to the Roman habit of indicating referred to the Roman habit of indicating whether referred to the Roman habit of indicating whether or referred to the Roman habit of indicating whether or not referred to the Roman habit of indicating whether or not senators indicating whether or not senators were indicating whether or not senators were on indicating whether or not senators were on duty indicating whether or not senators were on duty whether indicating whether or not senators were on duty whether they indicating whether or not senators were on duty whether they were were on duty whether they were acting were on duty whether they were acting as were on duty whether they were acting as senators were on duty whether they were acting as senators by were on duty whether they were acting as senators by the were on duty whether they were acting as senators by the colour were on duty whether they were acting as senators by the colour of acting as senators by the colour of their acting as senators by the colour of their toga. acting as senators by the colour of their toga. 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I think there out the cat" was one of them. I think there were out the cat" was one of them. I think there were some out the cat" was one of them. I think there were some others out the cat" was one of them. I think there were some others which think there were some others which weren't think there were some others which weren't quite think there were some others which weren't quite as think there were some others which weren't quite as repeatable think there were some others which weren't quite as repeatable in think there were some others which weren't quite as repeatable in the weren't quite as repeatable in the House, weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or we weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or we wouldn't weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or we wouldn't want weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or we wouldn't want to weren't quite as repeatable in the House, or we wouldn't want to get House, or we wouldn't want to get into House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, and House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, and the House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, and the House House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, and the House which House, or we wouldn't want to get into them, and the House which were into them, and the House which were done into them, and the House which were done in into them, and the House which were done in a into them, and the House which were done in a personal into them, and the House which were done in a personal capacity, into them, and the House which were done in a personal capacity, rather done in a personal capacity, rather than done in a personal capacity, rather than a done in a personal capacity, rather than a ministerial done in a personal capacity, rather than a ministerial capacity. done in a personal capacity, rather than a ministerial capacity. 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So it has been accepted by the House has been accepted by the House previously has been accepted by the House previously that has been accepted by the House previously that there has been accepted by the House previously that there are has been accepted by the House previously that there are occasions previously that there are occasions where, previously that there are occasions where, effectively, previously that there are occasions where, effectively, the previously that there are occasions where, effectively, the ministerial where, effectively, the ministerial hat where, effectively, the ministerial hat is where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken off, where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken off, and where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken off, and people where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken off, and people act where, effectively, the ministerial hat is taken off, and people act in hat is taken off, and people act in a hat is taken off, and people act in a personal hat is taken off, and people act in a personal capacity. hat is taken off, and people act in a personal capacity. 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So I think some sort of interim ruling statements. So I think some sort of interim ruling from statements. So I think some sort of interim ruling from you statements. So I think some sort of interim ruling from you about statements. So I think some sort of interim ruling from you about what interim ruling from you about what is interim ruling from you about what is in interim ruling from you about what is in and interim ruling from you about what is in and what interim ruling from you about what is in and what is interim ruling from you about what is in and what is out, interim ruling from you about what is in and what is out, as interim ruling from you about what is in and what is out, as far interim ruling from you about what is in and what is out, as far as is in and what is out, as far as ministers is in and what is out, as far as ministers acting, is in and what is out, as far as ministers acting, would is in and what is out, as far as ministers acting, would be is in and what is out, as far as ministers acting, would be useful ministers acting, would be useful for ministers acting, would be useful for the ministers acting, would be useful for the scrutiny ministers acting, would be useful for the scrutiny of ministers acting, would be useful for the scrutiny of the ministers acting, would be useful for the scrutiny of the House. ministers acting, would be useful for the scrutiny of the House. I for the scrutiny of the House. I will for the scrutiny of the House. I will see for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I can for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I can get for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I can get my for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I can get my head for the scrutiny of the House. I will see if I can get my head around will see if I can get my head around the will see if I can get my head around the issue. will see if I can get my head around the issue. Question will see if I can get my head around the issue. Question No. will see if I can get my head around the issue. Question No. 10, will see if I can get my head around the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. Thank the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. Thank you, the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. Thank you, Mr the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, the issue. Question No. 10, Tamati Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to everyone Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to everyone throughout Coffey. Thank you, Mr Speaker, and greetings to everyone throughout the greetings to everyone throughout the House. greetings to everyone throughout the House. I greetings to everyone throughout the House. I have greetings to everyone throughout the House. I have a greetings to everyone throughout the House. I have a question greetings to everyone throughout the House. I have a question to greetings to everyone throughout the House. I have a question to the House. I have a question to the Minister House. I have a question to the Minister of House. I have a question to the Minister of Employment: What What recent What recent announcements What recent announcements has What recent announcements has he What recent announcements has he made has he made about has he made about young has he made about young people has he made about young people not has he made about young people not engaged has he made about young people not engaged in about young people not engaged in education, about young people not engaged in education, employment, about young people not engaged in education, employment, or about young people not engaged in education, employment, or training? The The Hon The Hon Willie The Hon Willie Jackson. The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 June The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 June in The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 June in Northland, The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 June in Northland, I The Hon Willie Jackson. Mr Speaker, on 1 June in Northland, I announced on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 million on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 million in on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 million in funding on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 million in funding to on 1 June in Northland, I announced $4.4 million in funding to three $4.4 million in funding to three community-led $4.4 million in funding to three community-led initiatives $4.4 million in funding to three community-led initiatives that $4.4 million in funding to three community-led initiatives that will community-led initiatives that will support community-led initiatives that will support youth community-led initiatives that will support youth and community-led initiatives that will support youth and youth-related support youth and youth-related training support youth and youth-related training in support youth and youth-related training in employment support youth and youth-related training in employment pathways support youth and youth-related training in employment pathways that training in employment pathways that are training in employment pathways that are underpinned training in employment pathways that are underpinned by training in employment pathways that are underpinned by pastoral training in employment pathways that are underpinned by pastoral care. training in employment pathways that are underpinned by pastoral care. In are underpinned by pastoral care. In the are underpinned by pastoral care. In the past are underpinned by pastoral care. In the past few are underpinned by pastoral care. In the past few months, are underpinned by pastoral care. In the past few months, Mr are underpinned by pastoral care. In the past few months, Mr Speaker, the past few months, Mr Speaker, I've the past few months, Mr Speaker, I've announced the past few months, Mr Speaker, I've announced funding the past few months, Mr Speaker, I've announced funding for the past few months, Mr Speaker, I've announced funding for seven I've announced funding for seven initiatives I've announced funding for seven initiatives on I've announced funding for seven initiatives on the I've announced funding for seven initiatives on the East I've announced funding for seven initiatives on the East Coast, I've announced funding for seven initiatives on the East Coast, the initiatives on the East Coast, the north, initiatives on the East Coast, the north, and initiatives on the East Coast, the north, and the initiatives on the East Coast, the north, and the regions initiatives on the East Coast, the north, and the regions in initiatives on the East Coast, the north, and the regions in New north, and the regions in New Zealand north, and the regions in New Zealand with north, and the regions in New Zealand with the north, and the regions in New Zealand with the highest north, and the regions in New Zealand with the highest levels north, and the regions in New Zealand with the highest levels of Zealand with the highest levels of young Zealand with the highest levels of young people Zealand with the highest levels of young people not Zealand with the highest levels of young people not earning Zealand with the highest levels of young people not earning or young people not earning or learning, young people not earning or learning, Mr young people not earning or learning, Mr Speaker. young people not earning or learning, Mr Speaker. 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Supplementary question: Are your announcements two years. Supplementary question: Are your announcements significant? Are your announcements significant? Mr Are your announcements significant? Mr Speaker, Are your announcements significant? Mr Speaker, the Are your announcements significant? Mr Speaker, the announcement Are your announcements significant? 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